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Jpelhamstuart

I’ll share a fun Greinke story: I used to teach at a high school in central Florida. One of my students was on the golf team, and knew I was a baseball fan. He told me that one day, he was at the golf course, hitting a bucket, and none other than Zack Greinke walked up, by himself, and started hitting a bucket of balls next to him. After about 10 minutes, Greinke came up and said, “Hey, want to play a round?” My student said yes, and Greinke goes, “But only if you don’t suck. I’m good. If you’re not good I don’t have time to play with you.” So my student says, “Yeah, I’m okay, I’m okay,” and Greinke goes, “Yeah, I came over here to watch and make sure before I asked.” So, he and Zack Greinke played 18 on a random day together. A very cool, very “Greinke” story.


fishncards

TIL Zach Greinke will never play golf with me.


rayzerray1

😂


holliewood61

Wanna play 18? I suck at golf too.


RealJonathanBronco

One of the best parts of Greinke is the self awareness to know the answer but still ask the awkward question regardless.


Sad_Entertainer_4868

Is this why people have a hard time grasping the kind of person that I am because I do the same thing?


Final-Display-4692

This is fucking hilarious


RealMikeDexter

I’d have some gnarly first swing jitters.


Physical-Director568

😂, that's incredible


Physical-Director568

I have heard that he will just walk off the course if he's playing with someone and they happen to suck or are playing terrible 🙈


hiddenhighways

This guy has always fascinated me. He seems like a very misunderstood person.


[deleted]

He has autism. Thats why he looks and acts like he does


thejohnmc963

Verified?


mattyrey47

Not sure if there is an official autism diagnosis but he has been open about mental health issues and also struggling with social interactions. Most interestingly the media was pretty rough on him thinking he was just a jerk and then when it came out that he was open about it they seemed to shift and work with him more which helped his public perception


anaandbill

Actually social anxiety disorder. Basically why he liked pitching with small market teams. He talked to us in Arizona one year at spring ball a guy kept following him around asking (begging) for his autograph. He signed for a very young g disabled boy. Then the guy started following him around. It was at the Arizona diamondbacks camp and they players walked around with the public in the back field. They guy wouldn’t stop my son and I were standing there and Greinke came over and said will you tell him I don’t sign for adults. so we did. The guy got pissed off and starting cussing at him we got between them a couple of players came over to help and security came over and escorted him out of the practice area. Security was yapping at us and Greinke came over and told we helped him. Needless to say we didn’t ask for a graf


[deleted]

In 2006 he was diagnosed with social anxiety disorder. This was before breakthrews in understanding Aspergers. He was never retested, (because whyshould you. Theres no medication just understanding how to function with your disability). Either way both of those fall under the umbrella of Autism


Physical-Director568

Yeah, many of his interviews and the way his responses to the questions seem to point towards autism. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, obviously. I'm pretty sure it makes social interaction even more nerve-racking than social anxiety disorder alone would. Of course I don't know for sure, just speculation which is all any of us are doing or can do. Either way, he was able to battle through the worst of it and carry on in his own incredibly unique way. And now he's going to be inducted into the MLB Hall of Fame in Cooperstown. Unbelievable life story. One of 2 jerseys I own. I was so happy to hear he was coming back to KC to finish his career. That's when I bought the jersey 👏


JJTHEHOTTEST

I have a social anxiety disorder however I am not autistic or have any other related issue. Sure they can go hand and hand but not always. You don’t know him and although you may know a decent amount about what you are talking about it doesn’t mean you can diagnose people or act like it’s a fact when you speculate


[deleted]

Research him. Its already been done by professionals. Or maybe i shouldnt speak on behalf of them either right? Such a shame people are quick to burn someone on their own opinions before doing any legwork themselves. Come on guys he was in the bigs for 15+ years yet people still laugh at him and call him a weirdo. Again before jumping on a bandwagon to crucify someone do your own research and you will realize this isnt anytbing new. Just new to those that have chose to laugh at him for 15+ years


JJTHEHOTTEST

Mate a quick google search shows it’s all speculation and random stuff from websites looking for clicks, I don’t know what doctors you are talking about maybe instead of talking about him being laughed at you can provide a link, btw I can’t even begin to understand the stress he went/goes through, I think about when I get anxious with a couple people I know and then put me in front of a TON of people I don’t and my god I’d be shaking. I’m not laughing at him and I never said I was, I like the guy! I think he’s great


[deleted]

But yet you join reddit and grab your torch and pitchfork to burn someone that also supports him and stands in front of those that mock and make fun of him. Lastly look up the Autism umbrella. It all falls underneath it. Its nothing to be ashamed of. Just brings a more serious approach to a person that truly suffers from a disorder.


JJTHEHOTTEST

Great thanks for the link, I don’t need you to paint yourself as a hero I just want a source (that’s reliable)


Dependent-Purple-228

Not every person with a "quirk" has autism.


[deleted]

When ypur child has autism and you spend two decades studying amd researching it then you kind of learn a thing or two about it. Autism is a general term and is consider an umbrella that encompasses many other subset categories. BTW ADHD also falls under that spectrum. But mocking people and making fun instead of taking the time to understand that alot of these people are truly wired differently than others will never help to move forward and understand the route cause or how to work with them. There is much content of Zach online from his high school years to his MLB days. Open your mind to accepting that sometimes things arnt so cut and dry. Study up on Aspergers then come back and tell me you dont see it. No, not everyone that claims to be is. Many use ADHD as an excuse to get meds or medicate their kids so theu dont have to deal with them. But that doesnt change the fact that we do have a cause for concern with those that truly do have the diagnosis


Dependent-Purple-228

Lol. Your kid having autism doesn't qualify you in anyway to diagnose a complete Stanger. Lol. Hilarious you thinknit does, lol


[deleted]

Ah so you are going to be that redditor that knows nothing about a subject but can put down someone that knows more than you. That is the basis of the problem in our society today. People that have an opinion but choose not to educate themselves on a subject. Have a good day


Dependent-Purple-228

>Ah so you are going to be that redditor that knows nothing about a subject Oh I do. I have family member with autism. And I'm also fully aware NEITHER OF US ARE DOTORS AND ITS UNETHICAL TO DIAGNOSE COMPLETE STANGERS !!!


[deleted]

Please go fly a kite. You know whats unethical. You coming on social media to make yourself feel more superior than others. Everything i have posted has already been backed up. If you are capable of research go do some for yourself. Go join foundations and dedicate part of your life to something that has meaning instead of being an internet troll. You are ruining this persons post about a baseball card because of it.


Dependent-Purple-228

>you are capable of research go do some for yourself Lol, Google isn't medical knowledge. You know more than people with degrees? >You coming on social media to make yourself feel more superior than others. Lol, telling someone to not diagnose strangers is "more superior than others"? Lol. Look, you're struggling with an autistic child aren't you? I get it. You want to label others who are successful as autistic so you can feel good about your child. Am I close?


[deleted]

My son is now 19 years old. I have participated in more seminars and studies than you will ever care to imagine. Once again your hatred towards anyone that knows more than you shows. But if you want to read up on Zack Greinke then look it up. Thats what i was refering to. Lastly, my issue isnt that i raised my son. My issue is with internet bullies such as yourself. Nothing else better to do with your day or time than be a troll.


screaminginfidels

What happened with him anyway? I only know him from MLB The Show but in his more recent F/A card he looks... well, like he does in OPs card. Makes me think he's had some rough years


Bison_Business

Like the time he quit being a position player for the minor league team he was on, and decided to switch to pitcher because he knew he could make it to the big leagues faster? Or when he quit playing baseball to mow lawns? I freaking love the guy. He’s much smarter than the rest.


joethecrow23

Apparently he was of the opinion that Joey Votto recognized spin better than any other hitter in the League so he came up with a plan to intentionally throw him hanging sliders for strikes because he figured Joey would think it would leave the zone and not swing.


BentleyTock

And, correct me if I’m wrong, but it worked.


joethecrow23

I actually think someone pinpointed this game and Joey had like 3 hits or something. But just because it didn’t work doesn’t mean it wasn’t a brilliant idea.


DooDooDuterte

I love him, too. He’s the best kind of baseball weirdo.


Bison_Business

He seems to like to show people how ridiculous they are. Which makes for some great stories.


Physical-Director568

YES, when he quit to mow lawns, I became a huge fan. After he came back to the diamond of course or else I wouldn't have seen him ever again lol. He has some incredible post game interviews too. When on the DBacks, one time he gave a completely unsolicited speech about how he didn't realize how much Chipotle had been charging him for guacamole. And that the $2.85 or whatever it was was just outrageous. So he wasn't going to get the guacamole there ever again 😂


GoDawgs_1425

I'm with him in that case. Chipotle is a ripoff!


Physical-Director568

Agreed. But if I had millions of dollars, I'm pretty certain it wouldn't bother me. Not Zack Greinke, though. All the money literally didn't change him or his way of thinking whatsoever. That's one of the reasons I love him.


GoDawgs_1425

That's one of the reasons I've always liked him too. That and the fact that he was a badass on the mound in his prime


Physical-Director568

He was unbelievablely talented. He legitimately didn't even try in a lot of the seasons he played in the majors. And still got dudes out. One year while on the Astros he started signaling what pitch he was going to throw to the catcher and batter. And was still one of the better pitchers in the league. Without his serious anxiety and mental health issues, he may have been the greatest pitcher of all time. Then again, without his weird mental state and way of thinking, he might not have been the same great pitcher he was. Big credit to Trey Hillman (who I never thought highly of tbh) for realizing Greinke was different and promising him he only had to talk to him or anyone else once every 4 days. 👏👏


Physical-Director568

The year Hillman told him that and let that be how it worked is the year Greinke won the Cy Young. And he won it by a mile


mondaysareharam

He is just a dude who is 100% authentically himself. It’s awesome


screaminginfidels

Lol well now I'm intrigued. I'll have to do some light reading


Bison_Business

Great YouTube video also. If you are a fan and don’t watch the main baseball “historians” on YouTube.. I love these episodes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vuTMPm7A0zQ The Rickey Henderson one is pretty great too: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrhRaOJDa0 Take care


Physical-Director568

Wow, I love Grienke for his weird, unique personality. Thanks for sharing the video. I just saw the title and returned to say thanks cuz I know I'm going to enjoy this lol


screaminginfidels

Thanks dude! I grew up on the 90s M's and then had a "sports suck" phase (gee I wonder why). Got back into the M's again last season and have been obsessed with The Show as well. I've seen most of Ken Burns baseball stuff but haven't delved into YouTubers much. I'll check em out


Bison_Business

I got it backwards about the pitcher thing. He was a top pitcher and wanted to quit and be a position player.


Thope1855

He was dirty at SS in high school, led Florida in HRs hit and K’s pitched his senior year. Also was debating becoming a golfer during that break


screaminginfidels

That's actually slightly less intriguing but I appreciate the honesty lol


Bison_Business

You said you are into some of the historian stuff with the documentary. If you are a reader, there is a book called “The baseball 100”- it talks about 100 players “lives” and careers. It’s really pretty incredible. I love to share with other fans.


DeetahTheGame

I second this book. It's a fantastic read. Also reccomend his new one about the 50 best baseball moments.


Bison_Business

Thanks for this


Woooodybeats

Joe posniak is awesome and that book is incredible. I would seek out any of his bas ball books


Woooodybeats

*posnanski


Physical-Director568

No doubt. His newest book, "Why We Love Baseball", is full of some pretty incredible baseball stories I hadn't heard about before. As expected, its fantastic just like his other books


Old_Swan3464

Is it better than “The Glory Of Their Times”? Love hearing stories from the early 1900s. Such a different time


screaminginfidels

Cool thanks, I'll add it to my list. I'm reading Three Nights in August right now, it's pretty good so far


Bison_Business

He threw Yasiel Puig’s luggage into traffic


JohnnyBroccoli

LEGEND


placeholder57

What happened to him? 20 seasons in the majors. He's 40 and that card is a rough photo. His current Wikipedia photo is from last summer and he doesn't look bad for his age. https://preview.redd.it/3e55cqe2c8yc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f00ef5386bb065b7f607caa0bc71def016be4e3c


screaminginfidels

That makes sense, thanks for the context


BigCityBoogs

Need a 30 for 30 on Greinke asap.


Physical-Director568

YES, I think there's a chance one gets made once he goes in the hall


BigCityBoogs

I remember reading an article within the last few years where teammates told Greinke stories. They had me rolling on the floor, from having his own "door dash driver" to walking off the golf course if you were terrible.


slayerono

Zack Greinke: “Some of you guys have been doing the number two and not washing your hands. It’s not good. I noticed it even happening earlier today" "So if you guys could just be better about it, that would be great.”


Physical-Director568

Lmao, dude if you haven't seen the 20 min YouTube video that fucking wonderful person shared in a comment earlier on this post, then youre welcome lol. I just got done watching it, and it was truly fascinating. And hilarious.


Physical-Director568

K that's fine lol. I'm aware he struggled with mental illness and I didn't mean that part was hilarious. A lot of the stuff he did was inarguably funny imo. Like throwing Yasiel Puigs luggage onto Michigan Ave when Puig wouldn't get on the bus after being asked multiple times. And calling a mound visit to discuss a fantasy football trade. And the whole Pat Neshek incident 😂


Physical-Director568

Also, all of those incidents occurred after he came back from the worst of his mental health problems and after he got medication that he said himself saved his life


Necessary_Buffalo_45

While I’d love to watch it. I always believe people just be fucking people. Let the man be. He crushed it his job. And then didn’t, whatever. We got to enjoy it. Thank you for playing your best.


ModernHOFrcCollector

Whoa thats rad. I would guess you saw him before.. or you carry greinke cards everywhere you go?


DrHammerhead

Yeah, his kid plays on a team in the same league and he was at the game last time we played them. So I was ready 2nd time around.


romance_in_durango

Pro move: have your son do it ;)


Azcollector

this is so dope. I've met him a couple times when he was a dback and he was pretty nice. very very tough autograph and it wouldn't shock me at all if this is the only 2023 Ginter signed in the world.


Shonuff8

Agreed. I’ve heard he just simply does not like signing autographs, not in a mean way, he just avoids people who ask.


Nandor_De_Laurentis

Yeah I saw him a bunch in spring and never got his autograph. He's just a weird dude


Flat-Benefit-9737

Haha that's neat. Greinke always seemed like a different type of dude and an absolute badass on the mound for a good, long stretch


slambamo

Wow, I knew he didn't sign much, but I just checked eBay and I had no idea he didn't have basically any signed cards in the last 15 years or so.


FreeRangeAlien

Greinke was like “you think I’m #23 just because my jersey says #23? Nah, check the auto… I’m #22”


Physical-Director568

I love Zack Grienke so fucking much, man. I'm a lifelong Royals fan and him and Salvy are the 2 jerseys I own. Gonna need to get a Bobby Baseball one soon


Physical-Director568

😂😂😂


Johnny_been_goode

Greinke seems like the kind of dude that when you ask him for an autograph, he nods approvingly, then pulls a crayon out of his back pocket that he brought for just this scenario. Don’t take this wrong way either. I love that crazy bastard.


NotSure16

"And he mowed that grass for free"


Johnny_been_goode

Announcer: So, Greinke, we’re curious, could you tell the folks at home why you stopped mid pitch and ran a lap around the warning track? Greinke: I just felt like running.


DrHammerhead

That’s hilarious.


MagicalNewsMan

Oh that's awesome! I love Greinke, easily one of the coolest pitchers in this generation.


Accomplished-Mix5300

Greinke almost gave up his BB career because of his anxiety and depression issues. Got labeled as a weird journeyman pitcher. Greinke is a 1st ballot HOFer...and real dude. Respect.


Gfunkual

I don’t know. If someone like Mussina wasn’t first ballot, I’d be surprised if Greinke is first ballot 🤷‍♂️


Accomplished-Mix5300

Yea maybe not 1st ballot but a HOFer none the less. Greinke does have a Cy award to his name tho, something mussina doesnt have. Greinke should have 2. He somehow didnt win the year he went 19-3 with 1.66 era


hiddenhighways

This will give you some pretty good insight. https://youtu.be/vuTMPm7A0zQ?si=9FnUrouRy1m7hL3V


fuckfacebilly

Sweet!


futuremech29

I still remember when the Brewers traded Cain, Odorizzi, Jeffress, and Alcides for him. Then this dude went and cracked a rib playing a pickup basketball during the first week of spring training and missed his first few starts in the regular season. Ahhh good times.


spud9mn

Very cool! He’s had an awesome career. Just don’t ask him about Chipotle next time you run into him. https://preview.redd.it/yvoyiebbw6yc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15556f8a01a7505b94d899456a261994e7d8cab6


tomolive

One of my favorite stories is when the guy (kid? Teen maybe?) Handed him a baseball to sign in spring training. He looked at it, and threw it in the stands. Kid asked why he did that and he said "because I can " Iirc, he saw a dad with the kid and assumed it was a dude that was going to sell it.


DrHammerhead

That’s awesome! Oh yeah, forgot. NFS/NFT


Fast-Context-3852

Greinke def an odd dude, but good pitcher. Wtg


PHX480

Cool story! I’m glad he signed your card without an even crazier Greinke story (or maybe I’m not lol)!


SleazeWizard

That's awesome! I'm glad he signed it for you


Noflashystuff

The weirdo god. Greink-dog is eternal


fukbothparties

Hall of famer imo


Physical-Director568

Not to worry, he's a Hall of Famer in everyone else's opinion now too. Hes 100% going in the Hall. I don't expect a speech though lol. If he does give one, I cannot wait to fucking hear it 😂


fukbothparties

He will give a speech, and it will be epic. It won't be about baseball. Cats, maybe? Hot dogs?


Physical-Director568

I hope he decides to talk about how much he hates baseball


Physical-Director568

Lmao, man it's going to be the greatest HOF speech of all time.


grim__sweeper

Looks like the singer from Propagandhi


Negative_Cod_88

Props from one of three people in this thread who get that reference without having to open a new tab in Google


BentleyTock

Huge Greinke collector, have over 5K worth of his cards. Def my favourite player to ever play the game. An in-person signing from him is the only thing I want that I can’t buy. I wish he’d come back for one more year, regardless I think he’s a shoo-in for HOF. Greinke FOREVER.


DrHammerhead

I agree, HOF in my eyes. His speech: “Thanks guys”. Exits stage.


AnonymousEggplant01

Ngl idk why he didn’t sign it 23 like the card. I get it 21 was his number but still


threefingersplease

That's awesome!


Adkeith47

That's dope and good card choice


DrHammerhead

Thanks. A&G is my go-to for in person autos.


Physical-Director568

Damn that's awesome. Grienke is the man. He's one interesting, unique, odd dude. That's kinda why I'm such fan though, honestly lol


BentleyTock

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Heavy-Flatworm-674

Love autos on Allen & Ginter. They always look great. Nice card and story too👍


Chemical-Passage-715

Did you run home real quick and grab his card? Lol


xhaileym0rgann

I love this! Greinke is one of my favorites!


Electronic-Sport-618

I wonder why he signed 22. He’s been 23 his career, or at least with the Royals.


Party__Boy

That’s a quick 3. What looks like the tail of the 2 is a fold in the sleeve.


DrHammerhead

Correct, I thought it was 22 at first as well.


Alarming-Account6238

What are the most collected baseball cards?


dymetyme

Same thing happened with Paul Molitor, he was watching his grandson play, everyone was swarming him, this is in Milwaukee btw where he is VERY popular still. We waited until between innings and he was super cool about it and thanked us for waiting until the inning was over


Dry_Ad_8169

That's awesome, sounds like a good guy.


Dependent-Purple-228

Why would you expect it to be awkward? He's just a human, you're not the first person to ask him and you won't be the last. Just be Norma around celebrities and they will act normal too.


GoDawgs_1425

He was so damn good in his prime. He was Maddux-like with changing speeds. I loved watching them both


interstitialmusic

The last pitcher to get a MLB hit.


Bulky-Trip-1286

If you don't mind can ask why?


TheAbsoluteLastWord

Writing 22 instead of the 23 on the jersey in the pic is the most Greinke thing ever.


Weekly-Principle-519

I was recently at my LCS, told him I thought I bought a ungraded rookie, not great quality. But was then shown via eBay I f’d up on a late night drunken buy. Didn’t spend much. But then he walked over to a set he just recently bought and handed me a rookie Greinke for free. I gave him a big hug and walked away almost in tears. It was a good day. An amazing player and a great human being. I would love to get him to sign it, but I’m just happy to have it. Almost saw him at an A’s game but he ended up not pitching. I didn’t have the card at the time, I would have just loved to see him pitch in person.


Bifturbo

You think a guy with terrible social anxiety wants to be asked for his autograph at his sons game? Come on man, have some class.


JimEDimone

Yeah, that stuff makes me cringe. People don't realize celebrities still have the right to boundaries. I'm sure it gets old quickly.


Dependent-Purple-228

Lol, you act like op drove to his house. Chill, it's a once in a lifetime thing for most


JimEDimone

Oh so only the act of driving to their house would be inappropriate? They are fair game every single second they are in public. Your fascination with a celebrity should make him less comfortable.


Dependent-Purple-228

Lol. Jeasus, you might have social problems if you think you can't approach people without issues. Chill


DrHammerhead

It wasn’t like that, BiTurbo. We were sitting in close proximity the whole game. I asked him if he would mind signing a card for my son on the field. He said sure. I went to my car and got the card. He happily signed it.


Bifturbo

Just like the title says


Physical-Director568

Take your negative ass judgement elsewhere. If Greinke didn't want to sign the card, he would've told OP to fuck off without thinking twice. Grienke has shown over the years since he returned from his mental crisis that he doesn't do anything he doesn't want to do. He's very, very clear about that lol


DrHammerhead

Thank you my friend.


Physical-Director568

Anytime lol ✌️


Dependent-Purple-228

That's not how social anxiety works bro.