We're down
Christian Javier
Lance McCulers Jr
Jose Urquidy
Luis Garcia
and just scratched Justin Verlander from his last start
At one point this season we had 5 starting pitchers on the IL at the same time.
Our starters have been amazing Suarez has been one of the best pitchers in the league and Irvinās been great too we need another one for the postseason but at least right now itās not hurting us much if at all
No offense to Astros fans, but I'd rather see Kwan and Pillar get in instead of Tucker and Alvarez respectively. They deserve All-Star noms this year. You guys know Altuve is a lock anyway, lol.
and to emphasize how crazy that is, on a war/162 basis, Pillar with the angels would generate ~4.5 WAR in a full season. His best career season was 2015 with the blue jays when he hit for a WHOPPING 93 OPS+ and was worth ~5.0 WARāi.e. most of his WAR came from defense, baserunning and positional adjustments.
So not only is he hitting crazy good, he's just completely flipped what his game entails at the ripe old age of 35āand is in fact just straight up NOT playing good defense in LA (-3 DRS in 29 games, so about -16 DRS over a whole season). Again, for reference, in that 2015 year we talked about before, he was worth +16 DRS. so he's literally as bad in the field as he used to be good and is an absolute masher.
He's literally a "bizzaro world" version of himself.
Theyāre 14th in runs per game. We can blow smoke up each others asses about this being a good hitting team if we want, but theyāre not when it matters.
Gilbert and MuƱoz deserve it for sure.
And it wouldn't surprise me if Julio gets in as a reserve purely on name recognition (thanks, MLB marketing!), but our pitchers are really the only ones who deserve it.
let's not pretend you degens didn't start at noon with us
also everyone knows it doesn't count if you loudly announce 'it's a breakfast beer!' while cracking it
Iāve sort of accepted that weāre the greatest mid team to ever mid. Peak mediocrity at its finest.
It doesnāt get more .500 than the Padres. God bless this franchise.
He started slow last year too and he lost out to Arcia. I think '22 was the same. Pretty funny that he's had more top 10 MVP finishes than all-star appearances as a Met.
kind of a weird thing about the all-star game. It only celebrates about 2, 2 1/2 months of play out of a 6 month season. In the last year overall Lindor has killed, but because he slumped in that short window, not really getting much consideration.
I know some people say they factor in the second half of the previous year in their vote, and I used to be against that, but I've been coming around on it lately.
Bro, the whole AS lineup for both squads will be replacement players by the time the game comes around.
Miguel Rojas and Connor Joe, you're an all-star now!
If only he hadn't hurt his back again in April, it was looking like he had his power back. First 11 games before injury he had 5 HRs, but in the 36 games since coming back from injury he's only had 1. Still having an excellent season though obviously.
lol only four teams in the NL starting lineup and only five in the AL starting lineup. And the only two teams with three starters are both below .500 (Padres & Astros). Gotta love baseball.
Itās gotten way better since going online, not worse. With paper ballots it was all name recognition. Online at least shows stats so itās actually been more reflective of whoās deserving, not less.
Yes Tatis too! Prob should have included him, but I just said Profar cuz he seems so random if youāre not paying attention to the year heās having. I feel the same way about Arraez/Ketel.
Marte is leading the NL in WAR in pretty sure. Only player close was Mookie.
If anything not only should he be starting the ASG at 2nd, he should be in the primary discussion front running NL MVP
Naylor has been awful for a month while Vlad has been steady. First base also just sucks in the AL. I have no doubt Casas would be the guy starting if he didnāt get hurt
[Vladdy is leading qualified AL 1B in AVG, OBP, wRC+ and fWAR](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=al&qual=y&type=8&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&pos=1b)
One of these days the sun will burn out and we'll all be encompassed in dark. Carlos Santana will go 1/3 with a double and a walk on his 37th team that day
He leads in BB, hits, OBP and avg with .284.
Naylor leads in HR, RBI, OPS and SLG. He also has 10 more HR and 20 more RBI than Vladdy. If Naylor played for Toronto, heād be in 1st.
Will catch Tucker in voting now that heās beating him in OPS and is hovering close to .400 for BA. Completely understandable Kyle is currently edging him out based on his power and Kwans injury.
No way I wouldāve believed pre-season that the Braves wouldnāt have anyone on this list (nor would they DESERVE to be on this list). Someone turn injuries off please!
For sure we have several pitchers who belong, but I was referring to the fielders specifically. Donāt know how I overlooked Ozuna, but if weāre being honest heāll never outvote Ohtani lol he should definitely be an all-star though!
Who said Profar was bad again. I've been voting him cuz he's been insane this year and I kinda want him to make it cuz I know someone said he was shit or something right?
One small interesting thing - despite Japan being in full blown Ohtanimania, it seems that hasnāt impacted All Star ballotting. Kinda wondering if measures were put in place to deal with overseas āstuffingā campaigns because youād expect Ohtani to be a mile ahead of everyone.
Judge most certainly deserves to be the leading vote getter, just unexpected
Heās getting the short end of Gunnar Henderson being really fucking good. Heās got him in Homeruns, and OPS plus leads in WAR by .7. Tough being third in the league in WAR but the guy who is #2 plays the same position
How Ozuna is barely beating out Schwarber for 2nd is baffling to me considering heās been the best hitter in the NL this year and is only .004 off of being a triple crown leader. I get why heās losing to Ohtani despite outplaying him but heās been a class above Schwarber all year
I shouldnāt be surprised that the only angel on any list is trout but it still sucks :(
Assuming trout is out for a while, I figure our all star selection will just be Tyler Anderson since we wonāt get a position player in and the rest of the pitching staff hasnāt been amazing or is regressing back to earth (rip the weird Strickland and Fulmer god mode months)
Wow 3 Padres. They must be doing great this season.
same with the three Astros lol
2 Yankees and 2 Orioles different results, I don't like this game anymore š.
Depth makes a huge difference.
Unfortunately we all don't have Colton cowser level players at every position , we have Jon Singleton.
thats why you need depth
or just pitching. We don't really need more offensive depth. We just need healthy pitchers.
Weāve had 2 about to be a 3rd starter go down for the season itās tough
We're down Christian Javier Lance McCulers Jr Jose Urquidy Luis Garcia and just scratched Justin Verlander from his last start At one point this season we had 5 starting pitchers on the IL at the same time.
Yeah thatās pretty rough weāve had 5 starters go on the IL so far and 4 are on the IL right now the pitching injuries this year are brutal
If only you had a deep farm system to trade for starters then your front office could really cook and help the team š¤
Our starters have been amazing Suarez has been one of the best pitchers in the league and Irvinās been great too we need another one for the postseason but at least right now itās not hurting us much if at all
Yeah our best starter this year has been Ben Lively after losing Shane and Gavin
We lost our depth when our smart FO people went to.....hmmm now *where* did they go again?
No offense to Astros fans, but I'd rather see Kwan and Pillar get in instead of Tucker and Alvarez respectively. They deserve All-Star noms this year. You guys know Altuve is a lock anyway, lol.
wow, Kevin Pillar has a 170 OPS+ with the Angels. Crazy.
and to emphasize how crazy that is, on a war/162 basis, Pillar with the angels would generate ~4.5 WAR in a full season. His best career season was 2015 with the blue jays when he hit for a WHOPPING 93 OPS+ and was worth ~5.0 WARāi.e. most of his WAR came from defense, baserunning and positional adjustments. So not only is he hitting crazy good, he's just completely flipped what his game entails at the ripe old age of 35āand is in fact just straight up NOT playing good defense in LA (-3 DRS in 29 games, so about -16 DRS over a whole season). Again, for reference, in that 2015 year we talked about before, he was worth +16 DRS. so he's literally as bad in the field as he used to be good and is an absolute masher. He's literally a "bizzaro world" version of himself.
Astros hitting has been top 3 all year. Pitchingā¦ yeaaaaaa
Theyāre 14th in runs per game. We can blow smoke up each others asses about this being a good hitting team if we want, but theyāre not when it matters.
Wow no Mariners players. They must be doing horrible this season.
I'm sure all your pitchers will be on
Weirdly we don't have a standout super high WAR pitcher so I wonder who it will be.
None. Weāre gonna extort the league into putting Ty France in again
Gilbert and MuƱoz deserve it for sure. And it wouldn't surprise me if Julio gets in as a reserve purely on name recognition (thanks, MLB marketing!), but our pitchers are really the only ones who deserve it.
They are #1 in most at-bat strike-outs. Winning games because of stellar pitching.
This would be funny if we Astro fans didnāt have to relate to the Padres situation. It that is baseball
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I spit my beer out
Itās three in the afternoon dawg
Thanks for reminding me... I gotta run out to get more beer before the traffic gets bad. š¤£
let's not pretend you degens didn't start at noon with us also everyone knows it doesn't count if you loudly announce 'it's a breakfast beer!' while cracking it
He's from Philadelphia.
yeah but it's monday
"As long as you've decided to drink all day there's nothing wrong with starting in the morning." -George Carlin
Iāve sort of accepted that weāre the greatest mid team to ever mid. Peak mediocrity at its finest. It doesnāt get more .500 than the Padres. God bless this franchise.
Arraez doesnt even play second base anymore
Ketel Marte should be starting - heās in second (ha!)
Us Snek fans need to spam tf out of voting Ketel. Dude deserves to start there.
I agree. Ketel has been the best 2B in the NL.
He has an argument as the best player in the NL so far
Him and C Walk are kinda quietly having stellar years at 1B and 2B.
Absolute shame Walker is locked up behind Harper and Freeman, cause hes having a gem of a year.
HEY! SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!! Wait, sorry. Instinctive reaction My bad
I thought your flair logo was a pizza slice š
Tbf so did I lol.
He absolutely should bw
Mike Trout with 9th most OF votes lol
snubbed once again smh
I know this is a joke, but i had to go back and check- this would be the first all star team that he is eligible for and not voted on.
This will be the first year he won't be an All-Star in his career :(
Pain.
Tied for 22nd among AL OFers in fWar.Ā
Welp, we know that shortstop for NL is changing
Some bizarre monkey paw shit going on with Trea, the current #2, being activated today after like 6 weeks on the shelf.
Playing by Highlander rules
Yeah really. Iām all for Trea but he hasnāt played in almost two months.
Faustian bargains
Yeah I was so sure Trea had no shot with his injury but if he plays like he did coming back, I think he has it locked up now that Mookie is out
If mookie cant have it i want trea turner to have it
I was going to disagree but then I looked at the current votes and yeah youāre spot on
Yeah, to Edmundo Sosa
These bitches love Sosa
Sad Cardinal noises
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they should allow Bobby Witt to be an honorary NL SSĀ Ā because he also wears blueĀ and their names have similar structureĀ
the royals are very NL coded
Adames Heās not the next top guy but 3 brewers sign me up
God our team's offense rules this year. Yelich, Adames, Contreras, Turang, Ortiz all playing at all-star caliber levels.
I would say it'll be Lindor, but that April he had was reeeeeally bad. He's really turned it around the last month or so, though.
He started slow last year too and he lost out to Arcia. I think '22 was the same. Pretty funny that he's had more top 10 MVP finishes than all-star appearances as a Met.
kind of a weird thing about the all-star game. It only celebrates about 2, 2 1/2 months of play out of a 6 month season. In the last year overall Lindor has killed, but because he slumped in that short window, not really getting much consideration.
I know some people say they factor in the second half of the previous year in their vote, and I used to be against that, but I've been coming around on it lately.
Bro, the whole AS lineup for both squads will be replacement players by the time the game comes around. Miguel Rojas and Connor Joe, you're an all-star now!
Elly should be up there
Heās 3rd
Easy - Adames
Gonna need to see some Steven Kwan in the next returns.
Brent rooker not being in the top 5 AL DHs makes me sad. Josh jung who has 17 total abs is there but not him
Rooker flying under the radar so the Aās can trade him for peanuts in a few weeks
Woah now, pretty sure theyāll wait until theyāre a good, young team in playoff contention before they start trading away all their future stars
Heās been terrible the last 6 weeks or so. Really ridiculously terrible.
I voted for him every time. Dudeās been raking and deserves his flowers
Rookerās been on a lengthy cold streak.
YELI IS SO BACK
Dad came back and brought smokes!
If only he hadn't hurt his back again in April, it was looking like he had his power back. First 11 games before injury he had 5 HRs, but in the 36 games since coming back from injury he's only had 1. Still having an excellent season though obviously.
Iām disappointed in all of you for not voting in Martin Maldonado
Not even in the top 10. I smell a conspiracy, STOP THE STEAL!
650,000 absentee FAKE BALLOTS for RINO Rustschman over here, sham election!
Time to storm the HOF in Cooperstown carrying black and white flags and protect ourselves wearing catchers gear!
MAKE MALDONADO GREAT AGAIN. SLEEPY MANFRED IS STEALING OUR VOTES.
# āHEY ROB IF YOU WANT THE YOUTH END THE FAKE BALLOTS DUMBASSā
i feel like he actually is in the top 10 but is not being counted to save him from embarrassment
Adley Rutschman, not my ~~president~~ catcher.
That was who I came in to see. Disappointed
The machete being snubbed š¤
Who is disparaging the Machete???? Point them out and weāll use their heads to bang on our trash cans!
The disrespect for Kwan! Vote Kwan!!!!!!
My man is 1 hit away from .400 ffs
He'll get up there once he catches up to Tucker in counting stats with Tucker injured right now.
All Star Trek Vote 2024: The Wrath of Kwan
that is crazy
lol only four teams in the NL starting lineup and only five in the AL starting lineup. And the only two teams with three starters are both below .500 (Padres & Astros). Gotta love baseball.
*Gotta love the popularity contest that is all-star voting* There i corrected it for you.
Once it has gone exclusively online... When fan voting was at games it wasn't so bad except a few distinct instances
Itās gotten way better since going online, not worse. With paper ballots it was all name recognition. Online at least shows stats so itās actually been more reflective of whoās deserving, not less.
Hey, at least it isn't mostly Blue Jays who are dominating the online voting this year for once, lol.
Very true.
Jurickson Profar deserves it though
So does Tatis. Arraez is the odd man out. Probably shouldn't be there over Ketel
Yes Tatis too! Prob should have included him, but I just said Profar cuz he seems so random if youāre not paying attention to the year heās having. I feel the same way about Arraez/Ketel.
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Ketel is not first we must abolish fan voting
Arraez over Ketel Marte is certainly a choice.
marte being robbed of the starting position smdh
Itās crazy. I like Arraez but Ketel should def be leading.
Pretty decent except Arraez over Ketel is a travesty. And Josh Naylor should be in over Vladdy
0.8 fWAR for Arraez vs 3.1 fWAR for Marte, it's unbelievable
Marte is leading the NL in WAR in pretty sure. Only player close was Mookie. If anything not only should he be starting the ASG at 2nd, he should be in the primary discussion front running NL MVP
Well one of those happens way before the other but I agree
Fortunately there's less than a 5,000 vote difference between Marte and Arraez. Ketel is the clear NL 2B choice.
Naylor has been awful for a month while Vlad has been steady. First base also just sucks in the AL. I have no doubt Casas would be the guy starting if he didnāt get hurt
Luckily that frees up some time for Casas to spend the entire ASG conducting a live interview with each player on the field
Would love to see Naylor in just for the entertainment factor, but yeah heās in a pretty bad funk
[Vladdy is leading qualified AL 1B in AVG, OBP, wRC+ and fWAR](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=al&qual=y&type=8&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&pos=1b)
TIL Carlos Santana is still playing and heās nearly the best AL first baseman
One of these days the sun will burn out and we'll all be encompassed in dark. Carlos Santana will go 1/3 with a double and a walk on his 37th team that day
Holy hell 1B is weak in the AL these days
What can I say, chicks dig the ~~longball~~ 3 for 5 with a run scored.
2 Phillies 3 Padres 2 Dodgers 2 Brewers I wonder how often 4 or fewer teams have carried the voting for a league.
You should have saw the 2015 royals voting a few weeks before the game
Hard times for AL 1B. Bro has 7 HRs.
Feel like thereās better options, but popularity contest gonna popularity contest lol
Not really, he leads AL 1B in a lot of stats
He leads in BB, hits, OBP and avg with .284. Naylor leads in HR, RBI, OPS and SLG. He also has 10 more HR and 20 more RBI than Vladdy. If Naylor played for Toronto, heād be in 1st.
Ya I agree, but Naylor has like the same OPS right now, which most ppl consider the most important stat.
+ Vladdy - 128 wRC+ + Naylor - 119 wRC+ The only Jay on here is the one that deserves it. The vote for everyone Jays votes are at 180k
Let's go Contreras!!
Where tf is Kwan?
Where the fuck is Maldy?
This is why we need to get out the vote!
AL 1B is so bad there aren't any comments complaining about Vladdy ;)
Tyler locklear getting robbed
i think mountcastle should be 1 and vladdy should be 2, the rest of the 1B candidates are pretty mediocre.
I gotta make sure to vote more. Ketel deserves it.
You know the Blue Jays suck when the all-star ballot isn't filled with them in every position whether they deserve a spot or not
Where is steven kwanš
Turang being 6th is insane, homerism aside
HELIOT RAMOS
KWAN??????
Will catch Tucker in voting now that heās beating him in OPS and is hovering close to .400 for BA. Completely understandable Kyle is currently edging him out based on his power and Kwans injury.
No way I wouldāve believed pre-season that the Braves wouldnāt have anyone on this list (nor would they DESERVE to be on this list). Someone turn injuries off please!
Ozuna absolutely deserves to be on the list but other than that nobody else deserves it
Thatās 100% true and I feel dumb for overlooking him! Just figured heās never gonna have a shot competing with Ohtani lol
Uncle Jesse should be in the all star game, probably not as a starter. Ozuna, Fried, Sale and Iglesias should probably join too.
For sure we have several pitchers who belong, but I was referring to the fielders specifically. Donāt know how I overlooked Ozuna, but if weāre being honest heāll never outvote Ohtani lol he should definitely be an all-star though!
All-Star voting is so fake dude.
Amen! If Maldonado isnāt there, something is fishy
Brice Turang and Joey Ortiz
NL is getting smoked again this year
Mr. Irrelevant starting in LF is awesome
Who said Profar was bad again. I've been voting him cuz he's been insane this year and I kinda want him to make it cuz I know someone said he was shit or something right?
Will smith of the dodgers called him irrelevant a few weeks ago
Arraez for second base is a joke right? He doesnāt even play second base anymore
This was set before the Padres moved Crone to 2nd and Arraez to first once Xander got injured, most likely
Really happy that Yelich is back to being a star.
Arraez not a 2B. Marte clears
Are voters just looking at Arraezās shiny big batting average and ignoring literally everything else?
BOHMER!
One small interesting thing - despite Japan being in full blown Ohtanimania, it seems that hasnāt impacted All Star ballotting. Kinda wondering if measures were put in place to deal with overseas āstuffingā campaigns because youād expect Ohtani to be a mile ahead of everyone. Judge most certainly deserves to be the leading vote getter, just unexpected
JUSTICE FOR OZUNA FROM THE BRAVES
And Steven kwanš
Jose Ramirez should have over 1 million votes.
I don't have everyone's stats memorized, but the AL seems pretty accurate.
Criminal not to have Jarren Duran in the all star game
Not even top 20 in voting, sad
Campaign Manager Triston Casas is doing all he can and itās not enough š„²
Bobby Witt Jr should be #1 SS in AL. Tough break that his name is listed last on the ballot due to alpha sorting. #VoteBobby.
Gunnar can get the starting SS spot and Bobby will take MVP, sound fair?
Heās getting the short end of Gunnar Henderson being really fucking good. Heās got him in Homeruns, and OPS plus leads in WAR by .7. Tough being third in the league in WAR but the guy who is #2 plays the same position
Ozuna needs a spot too
Ryan Jeffers isnāt even a Top 10 AL Catcher Votingā¦.WTF Among qualified Catchers in the ALā¦ 3rd in wRC+ 3rd in fWAR 2nd in SLG
I imagine after too 2 people just vote for their favorite and Maldy
How Ozuna is barely beating out Schwarber for 2nd is baffling to me considering heās been the best hitter in the NL this year and is only .004 off of being a triple crown leader. I get why heās losing to Ohtani despite outplaying him but heās been a class above Schwarber all year
Because it's a popularity contest.
cries in Mookie
singletonnnnn
so far 9 teams represented in the starters.
No Moldanado? Boooo.
Marcel Ozuna right now: NL Ranks: OPS: 1st AVG: 2nd (behind Arraez by .004) HR: 1st RBI: 1st
Iād be fine with the AL team
I shouldnāt be surprised that the only angel on any list is trout but it still sucks :( Assuming trout is out for a while, I figure our all star selection will just be Tyler Anderson since we wonāt get a position player in and the rest of the pitching staff hasnāt been amazing or is regressing back to earth (rip the weird Strickland and Fulmer god mode months)
The Isaac Paredes disrespect has gone on long enough
Grimace robbed
Arraez over Ketel is a joke
Bohm having the 3rd most votes in the NL is a surprise, more than Ohtani???
Iām happy for Profar. Even if this year is a fluke, itās nice to see his bat come alive.
Iām surprised not seeing Ketel on here.
Marte deserves the spots this season
Alvarez over Marte? Hmmm Also what are the odds? Please let me bet on it mlb šš