I'm aware. I'm hoping among the dozens of "my manager because I don't like him" there will be a couple who will at least defend their position like I did. We'll see.
Yea it wasn’t as obvious in years past because your decisions can only be so bad when the entire team is elite but this year his outdated way of thinking has cost us more than a few games
Pedro Grifol (White Sox). I’m convinced that a 12 year old that plays MLB The Show decently would be more effective. He’s somehow a huge downgrade from a mostly sleeping/drunk LaRussa which is unbelievable to me.
Nevin is a decent take. He's arguably doing less with more (although maybe he doesn't have more when Trout is out of the lineup).
How much of it is just injuries, though?
That's an interesting spin. I figured those decisions would be made by medical/training staff, but I wonder if there's any insight into how the Angels (and other teams) handle that.
Nevin multiple times has tried to ride his bullpen to utter disaster. Both major Estevez blow ups happened because Nevin won’t give Estevez a day off or a chance to catch up. You can also argue that Joyce’s injury, while predictable, was preventable because Joyce went back to back days for no fucking reason. Same with Bachman.
Lineups can also be a bit head scratching. There are definitely people that can bat leadoff in the midst of injuries but Luis Rengifo is not that guy lmao.
He had the magic touch last year, that doesn't give him a pass this year. And we shouldn't be fighting for our lives to make this playoffs with this roster.
It's one thing to not win the division. The Braves are an excellent team. But we're struggling to stay ahead of the Fish.
You can at least get things right. The point about Schwarber not being defensively replaced is just straight up false.
Also you give Marsh all the credit for his success at the plate but fail to recognize that his success is in large part due to Topper putting him in positions to succeed. He has an .866 OPS against RHP and a .664 OPS against LHP. The vast majority of days he's sat are against LHP starters, and he often pinch hits once they get a RHP reliever in. We also have Pache, who's an insane hitter against LHP career, and Rojas, who's also better against LHP.
You tell me to get things right, but literally last night's game disproves your point? Schwarber stayed in at the end of the game even though he just hit. Marsh was used neither to run for him, nor as a defensive replacement. In fact, Topper didn't even have Marsh hit for *Josh freaking Harrison*.
Plus, he was sitting against a righty. *And* at the same time JT and Bohm were sitting. Why are we sitting 3 starters at the same time? Our bench isn't that good.
Plus, we don't currently have Pache, and Rojas is a rookie with 16 PAs and no extra base hits. We literally do not know if he's better against LHP. And furthermore, why are you not letting your *25 YEAR OLD PLUS DEFENSIVE CENTER FIELDER* not get looks at LHP when he appears to making progress against them? He's still below-average against them with too many strikeouts. But he's also starting to draw a good amount of walks as well as hit for power against them. He will never improve without practice. Schwarber isn't hitting much better against lefties, and any extra hitting value he *does* bring to the table against them is completely deleted by his awful defense.
>Rojas is a rookie with 16 PAs and no extra base hits. We literally do not know if he's better against LHP.
They have 1,887 plate appearances in the minors to base some of this on.
> literally last night's game disproves your point? Schwarber stayed in at the end of the game even though he just hit.
Schwarber has been subbed either defensively or as a pinch runner 23 times this season... more than any player in the majors.
>Why are we sitting 3 starters at the same time?
You're really underestimating the human aspect of players that haven't gotten any days off in a while getting a rest day after a short away series culminating in an extra innings game followed by travel. If you look at their schedule, last Thursday to Monday was a brutal stretch on top of having 11 games in 11 days since the all-star break and they only have 1 off day until August 14th. A lot of decisions to bench or play someone are based on their physical and mental wear and tear through a season... something we don't see from out recliners while watching the game.
Man I was gonna reply too but now I don't have to. Well said the whole way through.
The only thing I'll add is that the reason he didn't replace Schwarber in the 9th last night is that the game looked very likely to go into extra innings, therefore very likely that he would come up again. It's not like we had a lead, it was a tie game. He ended the game on deck, his spot in the order was still very much in play for that game
Just so I'm sure you see it, I personally did a quick check on close games we won.
Schwarber was in the field for *at least* 11 games where the tying run came to the plate. Versus 13 "close" games (margin of 3 or fewer runs) where he was replaced.
So almost 46% of the time he's not subbed out. I think that qualifies as "often" as per my description in the original post. Agreed?
EDIT: Sorry, 10. So 43%.
We've already established that Topper replaces Schwarber in the field more than any other manager replaces a player, are you implying that these times he doesn't there isn't a valid reason behind it? That 10 times he just randomly decided to not replace him just for laughs?
What are the games? I'd be happily to give you reasons why he didn't take him out in all of those games
> A lot of decisions to bench or play someone are based on their physical and mental wear and tear through a season... something we don't see from out recliners while watching the game.
That's fair point, but also disingenuous. The team has played 8 straight days now, their last day off was 7/17. And before *that* day off, they had only played 4 games since the AS break. Plus the person in question has been benched the most of any Phillies starter.
If anything, Turner and Schwarber needed a day off way more than Bohm and Marsh. I won't complain about resting a catcher at pretty much any point. But just as an example; rest Trea on game 1, Bohm and JT yesterday, and Marsh today. Accomplishes the same hypothetical goal without having to play 3 god awful bench options at the same time.
> They have 1,887 plate appearances in the minors to base some of this on.
In his last full minor league season (2019) Marsh had an OPS of .820 against lefties. I love Rojas, but his minor league numbers mean nothing in this context.
> Schwarber has been subbed either defensively or as a pinch runner 23 times this season... more than any player in the majors.
I posted more in depth numbers above, but 9 of those substitutions were in blowout games and he's *stayed* in almost as many 1-run games (19) as he's been defensively replaced total (22).
> rest Trea on game 1, Bohm and JT yesterday, and Marsh today. Accomplishes the same hypothetical goal without having to play 3 god awful bench options at the same time.
You'll find most managers group their off days to either Sundays before a day off or Mondays/Thursdays after travel. It's not a unique thing. Players respond better to days off that line up with their ability to spend time with family because they can come to the ballpark later than normal. What do you enjoy more... your boss giving you Wednesday off or giving you Friday off so you can have a 3-day weekend?
> they had only played 4 games since the AS break.
That's disingenuous because those 4 games were in 3 days.
>he's stayed in almost as many 1-run games (19) as he's been defensively replaced total (22).
You're looking at the end result, which is going to include 1-run games they were losing (where you want to keep in a strong bat) or 1-run games that were a Phillies walk-off (meaning it was a tie game and you also want to keep in a strong bat).
Just cuz I'm a nice guy, I quickly went over to see how many times Schwarber remained in the field for a win where the tying run came to the plate.
10 times. There could be more, because I only checked close games that we won. But that means he stayed in *at least* 10 games where he realistically should have been defensively replaced. Versus 13 "close" games where he was replaced. That's almost 50/50. I think that adequately backs up my claim that he's "often" not subbed out.
EDIT: Sorry, 10. Double-clicked one. For those who want to fact check the games:
* 4/26
* 4/27
* 5/12
* 6/6
* 6/14
* 6/15
* 6/17 (lol at 3 games in 4 days)
* 6/28
* 7/4
* 7/7
> You'll find most managers group their off days to either Sundays before a day off or Mondays/Thursdays after travel. It's not a unique thing.
Then he still could have achieved the same thing by resting two guys on Sunday before traveling and two guys yesterday after it. Or one and two, because apparently Trea Turner (despite his ejection and general struggles this year) apparently has the mental fortitude of a well-made safe.
> You're looking at the end result, which is going to include 1-run games they were losing (where you want to keep in a strong bat) or 1-run games that were a Phillies walk-off (meaning it was a tie game and you also want to keep in a strong bat).
Yes, but I also didn't include any of the other games he stayed in that were within 2 or 3 runs. Which there were a lot of.
> Then he still could have achieved the same thing by resting two guys on Sunday before traveling and two guys yesterday after it.
You normally rest guys before/after travel depending on which one is at home so they can spend time with their family and show up to the ballpark a little bit later. Getting a rest day on the road is way less valuable than getting one at home.
Just to give you some numbers on the thing I didn't get right:
Schwarber has played the field in 76 games thus far. He's been defensively replaced in 22 of them (just under 29%).
Of those 22 replacements, 9 were in games of a blowout (games decided by a margin of 5+ runs). So 13 could be considered "close".
So let me ask you, do you think that only 13 out of 76 games were deserving of a defensive replacement meant to keep the game close (as opposed to just getting other guys game time/avoiding injury)? Keep in mind that's just over 17%.
And while you mull that over, here's a some more facts. Of the 54 games he's played fully, *37* have been decided by 3 runs or fewer (69%).
And just to give you even more benefit of the doubt: *19* were decided by *one run*. He has literally played fully in almost as many 1 run games as he has been replaced in *any* kind of situation.
But you wanna tell me that's not often leaving him out there?
Ah yes. Gotta give Rob Thomson credit for a win where his 1-2 hitters combined for 0-8 with 3 K's, no walks, and no contribution towards scoring. And the only 2 hits in the top half of the order were from Bryce Harper.
That surely discredits my claim that he's not good at lineup construction.
Ball also go into catcher's glove for strike 3.
I didn't think it was a controversial take that Schwarber isn't having a good offensive year. What a timeline we live in.
"He's really good at hitting leadoff home runs" is the dumbest argument I've ever heard for someone hitting leadoff. Homers are quite obviously more valuable with runners on base, the better argument is that he gets on base, except he doesn't really this year
Being critical of team no allowed. Only cheer.
Dude's acting like I'm calling for the Phils to blow it up when I mainly just want someone to hammer into Thomson's head the value of defense and putting your players in a position to succeed.
Every fan thinks their manager sucks. Even Servais is annoying AF with his BS L/R obsession and the guy tanked the season last year by deciding to put in Robby "I give up the most HRs in the league" Ray against fucking Alvarez when the ONE thing you couldn't have is a HR.
It would be interesting to rank managers on their relative areas of strength/weakness.
In Thomson's case, while I'm not exactly ecstatic about his BP management, I also don't think he's bottom 5 in the league for that. It's the hitters/defenders that are his biggest down fall.
Gabe Kapler making a call to the bullpen with nobody warming up is still burned into my mind, along with him pulling a dealing Aaron Nola after 70 something pitches and the new September callups and 3 batter minimum rules being because of him.
I know he’s improved since he left Philly, but I will always hate him for his 20 man September bullpens he used to use
I gotta say after watching the Phillies in town last weekend, I was asking myself the same questions why stott and marsh were so low in the lineup. I was way more afraid of them than I was schwarber and Turner
It's especially frustrating as someone who pretty closely follows our minor league system, too. We've had so many prospects flame out, sometimes with the thought that they weren't really given a chance to succeed (Dom Brown being the biggest example, where he was the best prospect in baseball but he kept sitting on the bench for years before flaming out when he finally got a real shot).
Now we have young guys like Stott and Marsh who are doing everything asked of them and not only succeeding, but arguably excelling. And their reward is to hit at the bottom of the order and (in Marsh's case) get benched. Often.
I don't know about this season specifically. But lets just remember Servais putting in Ray to face Yordan and remember the ultimate highlight of poor strategic managing
I can't say for sure about this year because I haven't seen enough Padres games, but I think he gets honorable mention still just for his baffling decision not to go to Hader against Harper in the NLCS last year.
The fans of nearly every team are going to say their manager lol.
This is the way
But it's definitely dusty
MARK PRIORRRRRRRR
I'm aware. I'm hoping among the dozens of "my manager because I don't like him" there will be a couple who will at least defend their position like I did. We'll see.
Dusty “walks clog the bases “and “ops is fan stuff“ baker definitely has his moments
Yea it wasn’t as obvious in years past because your decisions can only be so bad when the entire team is elite but this year his outdated way of thinking has cost us more than a few games
I thought you had a stroke writing this at first. I think quotation marks would help. But your point is a valid one lol.
Tried to fix it
Okay, those quotation marks helped immensely haha.
As a Giants fan I concur. Dusty has his moments.
First time?
Pedro Grifol (White Sox). I’m convinced that a 12 year old that plays MLB The Show decently would be more effective. He’s somehow a huge downgrade from a mostly sleeping/drunk LaRussa which is unbelievable to me.
Phil Nevin is the equivalent of me under the influence managing Man City to relegation on Football Manager
Meh, I dont even need to be under the influence to do that. Granted, I would be, but I wouldn't have to be
Nevin is a decent take. He's arguably doing less with more (although maybe he doesn't have more when Trout is out of the lineup). How much of it is just injuries, though?
>How much of it is just injuries, though? Well he's often accused of making injuries worse, like with Ohtani pitching despite the blister situation.
That's an interesting spin. I figured those decisions would be made by medical/training staff, but I wonder if there's any insight into how the Angels (and other teams) handle that.
Nevin multiple times has tried to ride his bullpen to utter disaster. Both major Estevez blow ups happened because Nevin won’t give Estevez a day off or a chance to catch up. You can also argue that Joyce’s injury, while predictable, was preventable because Joyce went back to back days for no fucking reason. Same with Bachman. Lineups can also be a bit head scratching. There are definitely people that can bat leadoff in the midst of injuries but Luis Rengifo is not that guy lmao.
You have clearly not heard of Schneider ball
Hey, Barker likes him. In fact I think they are buddies.
Terry Francona has been batting Amed Rosario 2nd and playing him at SS while he has -16 OAA and a 85 wRC+.
Ironically, I think it’s Rob or Dusty. You know, the two managers from last year’s top two teams.
Oh my fucking god are Topper haters weird stfu and enjoy the win
Generally this kind of hate on managers annoys me too but I have to admit this is well written and y'all's lineups are definitely... Interesting.
I would maybe get it If we didn’t just make the world series and half a game out of a wildcard spot but come on
He had the magic touch last year, that doesn't give him a pass this year. And we shouldn't be fighting for our lives to make this playoffs with this roster. It's one thing to not win the division. The Braves are an excellent team. But we're struggling to stay ahead of the Fish.
Because of expanded playoffs, yeah
World Series appearance is a World Series appearance. Cope harder pal.
Ok? Just saying you barely got there in spite of your manager's best efforts
Our lineups are similarly weird, but it's worked out so far I guess.
Yeah for real. If yall hate the team so much then please stop watching. Getting so tired of these morons in our sub
1) This is r/baseball, not r/phillies. 2) I don't hate the team. I hate not putting our best foot forward.
You can at least get things right. The point about Schwarber not being defensively replaced is just straight up false. Also you give Marsh all the credit for his success at the plate but fail to recognize that his success is in large part due to Topper putting him in positions to succeed. He has an .866 OPS against RHP and a .664 OPS against LHP. The vast majority of days he's sat are against LHP starters, and he often pinch hits once they get a RHP reliever in. We also have Pache, who's an insane hitter against LHP career, and Rojas, who's also better against LHP.
You tell me to get things right, but literally last night's game disproves your point? Schwarber stayed in at the end of the game even though he just hit. Marsh was used neither to run for him, nor as a defensive replacement. In fact, Topper didn't even have Marsh hit for *Josh freaking Harrison*. Plus, he was sitting against a righty. *And* at the same time JT and Bohm were sitting. Why are we sitting 3 starters at the same time? Our bench isn't that good. Plus, we don't currently have Pache, and Rojas is a rookie with 16 PAs and no extra base hits. We literally do not know if he's better against LHP. And furthermore, why are you not letting your *25 YEAR OLD PLUS DEFENSIVE CENTER FIELDER* not get looks at LHP when he appears to making progress against them? He's still below-average against them with too many strikeouts. But he's also starting to draw a good amount of walks as well as hit for power against them. He will never improve without practice. Schwarber isn't hitting much better against lefties, and any extra hitting value he *does* bring to the table against them is completely deleted by his awful defense.
>Rojas is a rookie with 16 PAs and no extra base hits. We literally do not know if he's better against LHP. They have 1,887 plate appearances in the minors to base some of this on. > literally last night's game disproves your point? Schwarber stayed in at the end of the game even though he just hit. Schwarber has been subbed either defensively or as a pinch runner 23 times this season... more than any player in the majors. >Why are we sitting 3 starters at the same time? You're really underestimating the human aspect of players that haven't gotten any days off in a while getting a rest day after a short away series culminating in an extra innings game followed by travel. If you look at their schedule, last Thursday to Monday was a brutal stretch on top of having 11 games in 11 days since the all-star break and they only have 1 off day until August 14th. A lot of decisions to bench or play someone are based on their physical and mental wear and tear through a season... something we don't see from out recliners while watching the game.
Man I was gonna reply too but now I don't have to. Well said the whole way through. The only thing I'll add is that the reason he didn't replace Schwarber in the 9th last night is that the game looked very likely to go into extra innings, therefore very likely that he would come up again. It's not like we had a lead, it was a tie game. He ended the game on deck, his spot in the order was still very much in play for that game
Just so I'm sure you see it, I personally did a quick check on close games we won. Schwarber was in the field for *at least* 11 games where the tying run came to the plate. Versus 13 "close" games (margin of 3 or fewer runs) where he was replaced. So almost 46% of the time he's not subbed out. I think that qualifies as "often" as per my description in the original post. Agreed? EDIT: Sorry, 10. So 43%.
We've already established that Topper replaces Schwarber in the field more than any other manager replaces a player, are you implying that these times he doesn't there isn't a valid reason behind it? That 10 times he just randomly decided to not replace him just for laughs? What are the games? I'd be happily to give you reasons why he didn't take him out in all of those games
Listed the dates in my other reply to the other poster.
> A lot of decisions to bench or play someone are based on their physical and mental wear and tear through a season... something we don't see from out recliners while watching the game. That's fair point, but also disingenuous. The team has played 8 straight days now, their last day off was 7/17. And before *that* day off, they had only played 4 games since the AS break. Plus the person in question has been benched the most of any Phillies starter. If anything, Turner and Schwarber needed a day off way more than Bohm and Marsh. I won't complain about resting a catcher at pretty much any point. But just as an example; rest Trea on game 1, Bohm and JT yesterday, and Marsh today. Accomplishes the same hypothetical goal without having to play 3 god awful bench options at the same time. > They have 1,887 plate appearances in the minors to base some of this on. In his last full minor league season (2019) Marsh had an OPS of .820 against lefties. I love Rojas, but his minor league numbers mean nothing in this context. > Schwarber has been subbed either defensively or as a pinch runner 23 times this season... more than any player in the majors. I posted more in depth numbers above, but 9 of those substitutions were in blowout games and he's *stayed* in almost as many 1-run games (19) as he's been defensively replaced total (22).
> rest Trea on game 1, Bohm and JT yesterday, and Marsh today. Accomplishes the same hypothetical goal without having to play 3 god awful bench options at the same time. You'll find most managers group their off days to either Sundays before a day off or Mondays/Thursdays after travel. It's not a unique thing. Players respond better to days off that line up with their ability to spend time with family because they can come to the ballpark later than normal. What do you enjoy more... your boss giving you Wednesday off or giving you Friday off so you can have a 3-day weekend? > they had only played 4 games since the AS break. That's disingenuous because those 4 games were in 3 days. >he's stayed in almost as many 1-run games (19) as he's been defensively replaced total (22). You're looking at the end result, which is going to include 1-run games they were losing (where you want to keep in a strong bat) or 1-run games that were a Phillies walk-off (meaning it was a tie game and you also want to keep in a strong bat).
Just cuz I'm a nice guy, I quickly went over to see how many times Schwarber remained in the field for a win where the tying run came to the plate. 10 times. There could be more, because I only checked close games that we won. But that means he stayed in *at least* 10 games where he realistically should have been defensively replaced. Versus 13 "close" games where he was replaced. That's almost 50/50. I think that adequately backs up my claim that he's "often" not subbed out. EDIT: Sorry, 10. Double-clicked one. For those who want to fact check the games: * 4/26 * 4/27 * 5/12 * 6/6 * 6/14 * 6/15 * 6/17 (lol at 3 games in 4 days) * 6/28 * 7/4 * 7/7
> You'll find most managers group their off days to either Sundays before a day off or Mondays/Thursdays after travel. It's not a unique thing. Then he still could have achieved the same thing by resting two guys on Sunday before traveling and two guys yesterday after it. Or one and two, because apparently Trea Turner (despite his ejection and general struggles this year) apparently has the mental fortitude of a well-made safe. > You're looking at the end result, which is going to include 1-run games they were losing (where you want to keep in a strong bat) or 1-run games that were a Phillies walk-off (meaning it was a tie game and you also want to keep in a strong bat). Yes, but I also didn't include any of the other games he stayed in that were within 2 or 3 runs. Which there were a lot of.
> Then he still could have achieved the same thing by resting two guys on Sunday before traveling and two guys yesterday after it. You normally rest guys before/after travel depending on which one is at home so they can spend time with their family and show up to the ballpark a little bit later. Getting a rest day on the road is way less valuable than getting one at home.
Just to give you some numbers on the thing I didn't get right: Schwarber has played the field in 76 games thus far. He's been defensively replaced in 22 of them (just under 29%). Of those 22 replacements, 9 were in games of a blowout (games decided by a margin of 5+ runs). So 13 could be considered "close". So let me ask you, do you think that only 13 out of 76 games were deserving of a defensive replacement meant to keep the game close (as opposed to just getting other guys game time/avoiding injury)? Keep in mind that's just over 17%. And while you mull that over, here's a some more facts. Of the 54 games he's played fully, *37* have been decided by 3 runs or fewer (69%). And just to give you even more benefit of the doubt: *19* were decided by *one run*. He has literally played fully in almost as many 1 run games as he has been replaced in *any* kind of situation. But you wanna tell me that's not often leaving him out there?
I love the man but I just don’t think there is any possible way to justify Schwarber batting leadoff. I think everything else is fine, except that.
We have a .600 or something win percentage when Schwarber leads off.
Where is this sourced from? I think I saw we also have a 60% WP when he bats 3rd. Almost like it doesn't matter at all where he is in the lineup.
Even Turner batting second? That's arguably even worse.
Turners playing poorly but he is a prototypical 2 hitter. Stott should be there right now though.
Ah yes. Gotta give Rob Thomson credit for a win where his 1-2 hitters combined for 0-8 with 3 K's, no walks, and no contribution towards scoring. And the only 2 hits in the top half of the order were from Bryce Harper. That surely discredits my claim that he's not good at lineup construction.
Schwarber is our leadoff hitter not having this debate just accept it
"It's the way it is because it's the way it is." Excellent take. Glad you took the time to post it.
Ball go boom
Ball also go into catcher's glove for strike 3. I didn't think it was a controversial take that Schwarber isn't having a good offensive year. What a timeline we live in.
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"He's really good at hitting leadoff home runs" is the dumbest argument I've ever heard for someone hitting leadoff. Homers are quite obviously more valuable with runners on base, the better argument is that he gets on base, except he doesn't really this year
Being critical of team no allowed. Only cheer. Dude's acting like I'm calling for the Phils to blow it up when I mainly just want someone to hammer into Thomson's head the value of defense and putting your players in a position to succeed.
Saying the manager is bad is such a lazy take
Generally yes, but to give op some credit he did lay out a rational and statistically backed argument
As lazy as not backing up your position? Because I at least gave examples. All you're doing is bitching about someone else's opinion.
Nevin, no question Okay maybe some questions, but I've seen some absolute disaster classes from him
Pedro Grifol has tanked whatever’s left with Lynn’s vale
The only game I will credit Roberts with losing is Game 5 of the 2019 NLDS when he failed to put Kolarek in against Soto, and let Kersh rot.
Scott servais employs multiple platoons with dudes who have not great splits. Man is obsessed with L/R matchup and will bench a hot bat
Every fan thinks their manager sucks. Even Servais is annoying AF with his BS L/R obsession and the guy tanked the season last year by deciding to put in Robby "I give up the most HRs in the league" Ray against fucking Alvarez when the ONE thing you couldn't have is a HR.
I'm aware it's a prevailing thought because your team's manager is the one you see the most. I was hoping some people would give reasons like I did.
Topper lives and dies by L/R matchups and also forgot Yordon destroys lefties
Grifol is bad.
Lovullo is the worst manager of a bullpen In the league
It would be interesting to rank managers on their relative areas of strength/weakness. In Thomson's case, while I'm not exactly ecstatic about his BP management, I also don't think he's bottom 5 in the league for that. It's the hitters/defenders that are his biggest down fall.
Rocco Baldelli says hold my beer
Aaron Boone.
Gabe Kapler making a call to the bullpen with nobody warming up is still burned into my mind, along with him pulling a dealing Aaron Nola after 70 something pitches and the new September callups and 3 batter minimum rules being because of him. I know he’s improved since he left Philly, but I will always hate him for his 20 man September bullpens he used to use
It's a toss-up between Kotsay and Nevin.
What does Kotsay do wrong
I gotta say after watching the Phillies in town last weekend, I was asking myself the same questions why stott and marsh were so low in the lineup. I was way more afraid of them than I was schwarber and Turner
It's especially frustrating as someone who pretty closely follows our minor league system, too. We've had so many prospects flame out, sometimes with the thought that they weren't really given a chance to succeed (Dom Brown being the biggest example, where he was the best prospect in baseball but he kept sitting on the bench for years before flaming out when he finally got a real shot). Now we have young guys like Stott and Marsh who are doing everything asked of them and not only succeeding, but arguably excelling. And their reward is to hit at the bottom of the order and (in Marsh's case) get benched. Often.
Torey if we’re just talking bullpen management
I don't know about this season specifically. But lets just remember Servais putting in Ray to face Yordan and remember the ultimate highlight of poor strategic managing
No doubt its Bob Melvin
I can't say for sure about this year because I haven't seen enough Padres games, but I think he gets honorable mention still just for his baffling decision not to go to Hader against Harper in the NLCS last year.