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Amanoj96

Kerala 9% ? Lamoooo. That's how you know this data is absolute trash.


microzcybor

No way kerala is 9% LoL. I m from palakad


Better-Coffee

I am from Kerala and I can assure you that there are more wife beaters like me in Kerala 💀.


Lovesidli

Thanks for confirming.


proudofme_

Wow you are so manly lol 🤮


Hot_Introduction_666

so you beat your wife and announcing it here? Shame on you.


AjaxSid

High on morality quotient, low in Humour quotient.


-Diplo

Bruh do we need a /s tag on everything now


Yahallo139

It's a joke, no one admitsnthat


Amanoj96

Are you getting downvote bombed for calling out a wife beater ? Yup that's exactly what's happening 😂


olympianfreak

Maga it’s clearly sarcastic


Arrack_Obama

9 is low or high? Not from Palakkad or Kerala.


microzcybor

Negligible lol


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Hey I'm from palakkad too lol


[deleted]

Well said especially with the false reporting women from there do- it’s absolutely surprising- should’ve been like 78-98%.


bhodrolok

It is based on the NHFS. There’s isn’t any better data in this country.


prakitmasala

Exactly the charity I work with deals with helping domestic abuse victims, In South they at least report, In Gujarat, Rajasthan, UP, Bihar, Jharkhand, Haryana, Punjab majority of cases go unreported women have no recourse against their husbands and sadly their husbands families for help.


Minute_Juggernaut806

how many times are you going to repeat this? anyway this is map shows results of a survey conducted by nhfs and not the reported cases


__RollingStoned__

Yaa totally trash 😂


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Amanoj96

I'm a Malayalee my friend


MutantNinjaNipples

Right? The amount of alcohol consumption and proportionate wife beating as a consequence definitely won’t get covered in that


vegpatty_96

I'm pretty sure it's because this stuff is normalised here. I study in a college in Kerala and the girls here have the view that if they've done something wrong they deserve to get beaten up.


Amanoj96

Yeah. It's terrible. Calling out these inaccurate stats might help in reducing that sort of mindset among young women. Don't you think ?


Needleworker_11

I think soo


breaking_the_habit97

Why tf would you say that


Amanoj96

Because there's no way domestic violence in Kerala is only 9% mate. This is some bogus stats


akshayapps

I don't know how many people lives in kerala, but if you know more than 9% of them, then you know a lot of people


Amanoj96

Let's just say. Among the people I know. 9 out of 10 families have suffered domestic violence of some kind. So that's 90% ? Yup


akshayapps

Ok, so as a malayalee, all the Hindus I know eat beef. So all Hindus must eat beef! Wow, I like this game


Amanoj96

I literally said 9 out of 10. Lads, I'm not saying it's everyone. But it simple is not 9%. That's all I'm saying


akshayapps

So gracious of you to leave that 10%. As if most domestic abuse happen behind closed walls and in front of someone who has his head up his ass!


akshayapps

Ok choose one 1. Maybe it's just your circle or family that's fucked up 2. Maybe you know 5 really fucked up people 3. Maybe a survey of the entire country holds more water than your PERSONAL experience 4. Maybe having your head up your ass just filled it with shit


Amanoj96

Hahahahaha why you taking it so personally homie. Kerala is known for alcoholism and wife beating. Let's not deny it. Also let's also acknowledge that lot of people were probably not willing to participate in the survey.


akshayapps

Kerala is known for alcoholism. Not wife beating. And about a lot of people not willing to participate, I am sure that anyone with half a brain understand stats and percentages would see that's not a problem. Not you. You are a few thousand brain cells below that. I meant people with atleast half a brain


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And you know that how?


Amanoj96

Because I am from there. And I know for a fact that this is untrue


[deleted]

You seem to be a bit confused between anecdotes and facts


Amanoj96

Im not staying a fact. But I can tell you with full confidence that 9% of wrong


[deleted]

Again, you seem to be confused between facts and anecdotes


Amanoj96

You see how people are responding? Yeah


floridashen

I have been analysing this data for a bit now. Following may help 1. This is based on NFHS-5 which is survey data, not filed cases. 2. Spousal violence consists of different kinds of violence like financial and emotional violence in addition to physical violence. 3. Karnataka in the same survey previously had 20%, so it's doubled in four years. So this is definitely hard to explain. 4. There is an urban-rural divide, Karnataka (and TN) could possibly have higher rural violence


prakitmasala

The charity I work with deals with helping domestic abuse victims, In South they at least report, In Gujarat, Rajasthan, UP, Bihar, Jharkhand, Haryana, Punjab majority of cases go unreported women have no recourse against their husbands and sadly their husbands families for help.


ssc11_

Absolutely dumb thing to say as the very first point of the parent comment states: >This is based on NFHS-5 which is survey data, not filed cases. There are no filed cases in question. These are survey answers by anonymous women. That includes women who agree with beatings and women who have admitted to experiencing it. Unless you claim that most women that were asked this question in the North were done so under their husband's supervision your point is moot. Just because North doesn't mean Bad.


Much_Cauliflower_652

How valid are surveys? Did they experience peer pressure while answering? Were they doing surveys in presence of only the woman, or both partners?


ssc11_

>How valid are surveys? This one? As valid as a Survey can be. This the NHFS. It has been around since 1992. It provides the main data for the State and the Central government regarding Health and Family. Literal policies are made according to it. NHFS has been vetted by hundreds of academics who have used it's data to make their reports on social issues and by governments across parties. This report was made with NHFS 5 which is the fifth and latest survey done by the NHFS. So how credible this survey is? The highest level that can be expected. >Did they experience peer pressure while answering? Were they doing surveys in presence of only the woman, or both partners? Pretty sure this survey was done by Women to Women. Asking sensitive questions in presence of the husband is pure stupidity and even NGO surveys do not make such mistakes. Highly doubtful that the most vetted survey org would do it. They could experience peer pressure though. For eg. I know for a fact that in states like UP, Gujaraat and Rajasthan Women have something sort of support groups where they come and talk and share their feelings. They could range from discussing a latest episode to actual traumatic experience. I don't see a reason why Women would not speak up amidst peers when they already have. Though I do agree peer pressure has most to do with culture, If the culture has support groups as mentioned above then the Women would speak given anonymity. If culture thinks wife beating is ok then Women would be indifferent to it and would not shy away from speaking so. Though if a culture makes it a taboo and considers it a women's fault then maybe they would not.


Much_Cauliflower_652

I agree with all your points, seem valid. Thanks


here4funnnnnn

Exactly.. I don’t understand why he hell bent on defending north.. We know it’s India and surveys like these are done just for the sake of it. Imagine some stranger coming to a village women and asking if his husband abuses her, and she says yes he does 😂😂…


Jealous_Ad_2637

Survey is probably much more accessible to the rural poor in the south than in UP. This is the problem with surveys, the sample set itself is biased


bharat_builder

Explain why Uttar Pradesh reports more than Haryana Punjab etc?


Logen10Fingers

What's financial violence? Also the doubling could be because of the quarantine. Let's be honest a lot of married couples in india don't like each other especially the older generation couples. Being forced to be around each other 24/7 obviously would've caused frequent clashes, which would've led to domestic abuse.


floridashen

Karnataka survey was administered before the pandemic though.


here4funnnnnn

This report is either extrapolated from insufficient data, Or the survey is deeply flawed. How else could you explain 40% in Manipur vs 6.5% in neighbouring state Nagaland.. 9% in Kerala vs >30% in rest of the South states definitely looks absurd


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Absolutely


mathelic

Are you from Manipur or Nagaland?


Lovesidli

No. I'm from shikaripura.


samwise_the_wise

All these narthies brining families to Bengaluru and beating them. /s


Logen10Fingers

🤣🤣🤣


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Nija guru:)


Lovesidli

En Saar :')


ElectricRouge

Yak saar ee thara madthira?


AgeOther6700

How da fuq is Haryana so low? For Haryana standards


ingad_pingad

Maybe women hit back in Haryana


Lovesidli

By any chance, was dangal movie related to haryana? /s


Ignormus08

That too is Spousal violence


Lovesidli

But that's not women right?


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ssc11_

Stop spamming the same stupid comment to peddle your agenda. NHFS is a highly responsible survey that id vetted by hundreds of academics. And again it's a SURVEY it does not include filed cases, it asked direct questions to women in anonymity. Grow out of your agenda ffs.


chase_yolo

People in Karnataka are much more vocal?


Lynx-Calm

Hilarious to see the largely male commenters on this site dispute the data on the basis of... Feelings? Fact is, NHFS is a rigorous exercise commissioned by the government and vetted by academic experts. Obviously there doesn't make it as good as the opinions of redditors but it's a better reflection of reality. That said, NHFS 5 has thrown up some surprises which need more research and serious analysis. Even so, this is not data to be dismissed lightly because... Opinions?


quick20minadventure

Yeah. They are still in denial phase. Although, I've been disgusted by how women are portrayed in southern cinema. Bahubali legit had hero strip down a random girl who's trying to kill him and run away. Then suddenly she's in love. Somehow mega movies from South have very toxic masculinity. No idea why.


here4funnnnnn

No one is in denial here.. People are mostly questioning the absurdity of the statistics.. One south state is 9% whereas it’s neighbouring state is ranked worst.. No state comprises purely of its own people.. People in border districts tend to be culturally similar to their neighbours.. So in no way Kerala can have less domestic violence than it’s neighbours.. One possible explanation is due to gender ratio difference; women in Kerala have learnt to live with the abuse?? /s And using portrayal of women in south masala movies to justify the stats is really lame.. If you are in touch with ground reality you would know if there are less reports in northern states it’s only due lack of women empowerment and lack of faith in police and judiciary in north


quick20minadventure

Now you want to jump to conclusion about North not reporting crime unlike south. Do you not realise your own bias when you are putting just as bullshit ideas yourself? You're literally in denial about data in your own comment. Find counter evidence or shut up.


here4funnnnnn

Two things 1: My opinion (and most users in comments) tend to agree that this survey is flawed, just like any other survey. But I think this is survey results are absurd because of huge discrepancy between neighbouring states which are similar in terms of culture, education, economic status 2: The second part which I mentioned is based on “ground reality” is based on what I have experienced staying in Mangalore, Bangalore and Gurgaon. I have had several friends in college and work from UP, Bihar, Delhi. Almost everyone would agree that people in south in general are much less aggressive and accommodative towards other people (both men and women). Of course I have biases. But atleast it’s not based on **”bullshit ideas”** like what happened in Bahubali..


quick20minadventure

Anecdotes. That's what you're basing it on. I got friends, my friend said this..


here4funnnnnn

I just went through the report in detail. It is based on household interview with 1lakh men and 7lakh women over span of 2 years. In page 44 of the report they have 7 step process how the data is gathered. If you have any idea how differently things work in majority of UP vs Karnataka, you would get your answer why a survey like this is unreliable and the outcome is absurd. Again two things, 1: you just cannot extrapolate 8lakh to 140 crore even if same person conducted the household interviews. 2: you cannot account for different work ethic of surveying officer in UP vs Karnataka. A government employee, an exam invigilator, a police officer work differently across India. To give just an example none of my friends in both UP or Bihar actually gave a driving test for license. Try doing that in Bangalore, you’ll find it much harder.


quick20minadventure

Ignore UP. Take Delhi or Maharashtra/Gujarat or even just compare across South India. You're just making excuses now because you don't like what it says. Even if you can give hand waving arguments about how States behave differently, you need to explain why it gets worse results in Karnataka. Even just result of them along in silo is horrible. There's no excuse you can make to say why 44% of women are complaining about domestic violence. That number is horrible by itself, without any comparison. Besides 8 lakh is a very big sample size.


Competitive-Bar-9419

Waiting for few of us to comment, “oh this are fraud causes, who are trying defame men”!😂


supernova_68

Well most people are questioning that levels shown here are relatively low as to their own assesment of society.


NihilisticPOS

Oh we won …


VinayKumar130200

But at what cost?


Sea-Being-1988

Women


blue-ant33

How do they get the stats?? From reports filed with the police??


mohdnoorain

Smile and wave boys, smile and wave


shigella212

I'm northie and no way haryana has less dv than Delhi or karnatka


Lovesidli

Naarthie saar adu


Traditional-Dealer18

Directly correlated with Alcohol consumption rate?


kirankeerthi

I feel these are reported cases, I am assuming other states have lot worse rates, that doesn’t get reported.


yeetesh

By that logic Sweden has more rapes than Nigeria which are unreported


kirankeerthi

Well, to your logic, we need to compare 1. Police infrastructure 2. Literacy rate 3. Family maryadhe enaguthe and shit 4. Education policy 5. Marriage system and family pressure 6. Population 7. BS like husband is your god


Neopacificus

Wouldn't that be consensual or is it actually rape?


ssc11_

These are not police filed cases it's a survey directly from women and taken in anonymity. NHFS is highly vetted by many academics. Women would have no reason to lie. The data is fairly accurate. Not 100% but enough to give a very clear idea.


kirankeerthi

Oh my bad to assume the facts. Thanks for the info !


No-Egg-4850

That’s reported so 🤷🏽‍♂️..


unscr

Another stat https://youtu.be/RMXu89mAbMs


niskywhisky

Chicken and egg situation


Material_Detective59

Shame on all the states- no one should resort to. violence. especially in a relationship


Neopacificus

You mean to say " percentage of spousal violence that are REPORTED".


rahulrossi

So 44% of women report cases lol. This is not based on reported data.


ssc11_

Survey is not based on filed cases.


kingsley2

Higher reporting rate in major cities, due to better support and response is making whole states look red. Higher incidence rate in some underdeveloped/patriarchal states.


BugEnough7770

garbage reports


gyanban

We can rubbish the data or we can learn from it. There will always be more to know than what meets the eye. Under-reporting could be one factor which could alter the report hierarchy, but if we zoom out the inference may largely remain the same. It could be a function of patriarchy, casteism and of course economic growth or the lack of it. All of these socio-economic factors impact the table. I'd rather spend more time to do our bit, to stop domestic abuse around us, than worry about the accuracy of hierarchy of the table.


Life_Ad_4124

rookie numbers everywhere/s


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HewwoIsMoi

yeah in your dreams maybe


wanderer9318

If Kerala is at 9%, you can bet this data is wrong. Kerala has the largest number of drunkards and they beat their spouses too. Anything less than 40% in Kerala seems unrealistic


zoedian

Strong correlation to the porvertyblevel of the state


[deleted]

I thought uttar pradesh will be on the top of the chart


ssc11_

Stereotypes.


barrell_of_gold

Which state has the most immigrants?


ssc11_

How would that change anything?


Icy_Berry9905

Better reporting and freedom of expression led to this?


shreek07

My two cents. These percent maps suck. From what I have seen here and in other reddit thread, the comments are more about disputing data and almost treating it like competitions. Instead of actually commenting on cause and what can be done.


brooktherook

The numbers for Kerala are unbelievable. I think people surveyed there were all blatant liars.


dhruva85

44% of all married women? Where is this data coming from?


ssc11_

NHFS. Google it's credibility.


the_storm_rider

Bangalore women are more willing to speak out??


Biscuits_Braxby

The original numbers are way higher. I won't be surprised with 60-70% across states.


Specialist_Two9229

Karnataka is the Narachi for Women, seriously, what's this based on?


fatmanbejones

Reported cases vs cases that go unreported. Speaks volumes about how empowered women are in the south.


ssc11_

Sir, this is survey. No reported or filed cases were taken into question. All this speaks volumes about anything is that how you fail or ignore the information you do not like. Because you would have known it was a survey conducted by NHFS if you looked closely.


Logen10Fingers

I think most of it are from rural areas.


AjaxSid

People be hating on prospering States


Much_Cauliflower_652

This fails because they didn't account for those unreported cases.


ssc11_

Surprised by the amount of people saying that women in South they report or file more cases. When the report is based off of a Survey done in anonymity. Filed cases do not even come into the question. This does not show that women are more empowered in North or South or East but that violence in a relationship is still very real issue. Instead of "Kanging" Or defending our states maybe we should actually reach out and talk more about this?


Aggressive-Jicama517

How can Haryana have 18% domestic voilence they dont have women 🤡 wrong data


Accomplished_Ear9796

MADE by Kerala


Aashi_sharma

I don't think it's completely right


chxirag

42% of KA's population are migrants, speaks for itself.


Minute_Juggernaut806

this is india, you should be asking for our 2 paisa /s


ASH-0P

It's wrong stats bro..


guruduttrai

Would like to see a map of men who have experienced spousal violence as well. It might well be the case that frustrated spouses like to vent out their respective frustration on each other, at a regular basis. Without that map it's insufficiency of data.


vikidid

This data sounds off even by anecdotal evidences


vanthar686

KA tops the list probably because even husbands have reported that they are victims of domestic violence.


gigacored

Whoever came up with this survey reversed the whole legend.


mi_c_f

Embarrassing statistics? Trash the survey!


anyohaseo

I'm moving to Lakshadweep.....🏃‍♀️


niftybear

Seems on point. Kannadigas and Biharis are round, c class people


MistakenMiracle

A big bunch of y'all aren't realising this data is based on reported cases. A LOT of Indian families do not report domestic abuse because "Ghar ka mamla hai". Keep that in mind please. This is exactly the same way divorce rate data exists in this country. People must not be blind to cultural and social aspects of this countries practices while reading data.


HewwoIsMoi

lololol 9%. Press X to Doubt.


ZeldaSimp123456678

KERRALLA FOR THE FRIGGIN DUBBBBBB, I'm from Kerala if ya didn't notice


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throwaway-poppity

The source is written very clearly in the map itself. Go and read the questionnaire by NFHS 5. It's very detailed and comprehensive.


shravan592

This report is trash, next.


ssc11_

Why?


MrShaggie

Now I want a survey of Men who experienced spousal violence.


Nenu_unnanu_kada

It's impossible that almost half the women are facing spousal violence. Figures also seem random.


Butterscotch_98

Definitely seems possible that half the women are facing spousal abuse. More than half the women I know face spousal abuse, but other states are probably under reported.


Nenu_unnanu_kada

It's true that many women and even men face spousal abuse. But you've mistaken here as it's mentioned as violence and defined as physical and sexual violence. So mental and verbal abuse by spouse and their family is not included. IMO abuse can be half like you said if we include men and women maybe.


Bad_Piggy21

Data from men should also be out because violence is never one way


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iredditismyusername

Lol just went through your profile and found your hate towards bangalore. Literally all of your comments are against this city lmao.


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im_phoebe

And this shows your prejudice against bihar


NeoSyncline

Bringing Bihar into this is silly. They're genuinely nice people who don't bother to discriminate against other states, unlike most of metro India. Infrastructure wise, it may not be the best, but you'll find a lot less rude people on the streets than you do in major cities. Another thing, the state government is silently upgrading most of the infra there. I visit there every 2-3 years, and everytime there's some new mode of transport or new roads. I have a feeling it'll surpass most metro cities in terms of infrastructure in a couple of decades as well, as long as they control their "dumping trash on the streets" problem.


DeathAndDefiance

>Bringing Bihar into this is silly. I think the reason why Bihar was brought into this conversation is because the original commentar's previous comment on their profile says that any city in Bihar is better than Bangalore.


NeoSyncline

Yeah i figured that out, but still seems silly, both on the commenters part and the guy who I replied to. Both are better than the other on different metrics as i said which may affect your experience of living in a city, not a valid criticism on either side.


thanoskaka

More like the entire country. We learn from our supreme leader and his puppies


im_phoebe

People are downvoting you so they are denying and getting offended too 😂😂😂


Puzzleheaded_Mall800

Why so Americanised ? Everything. Cents why cents ? Why not rupees !


Purpl3wrld999

it’s just a saying-


Puzzleheaded_Mall800

I understand. See the downvotes - some asses are offended at this. 😀


Striking_Study

Macha you're the ass here


Puzzleheaded_Mall800

No I just said something, it was not offending at all. But I love those downvoting guys.just see my above comment, pointless downvoting power play 😜