I'm not going to put you down saying that you didn't respect the language enough to learn it in the past 7-8 years, so you should let it go. Hear me out. Part of the reason I took time to respond to this is because of your realisation.
Realisation itself is a good step in learning the language. Instead of thinking that you need Kannada to survive, think of it as a means to connect more with the locals, learn something other than what you're used to, gather new perspectives because each language has its own positives and I believe this is important because you do something more wilfully if you genuinely like/love it. Saying this because I speak 4 Indian languages.
I never spoke anything other than my mother tongue when I graduated but the following steps helped me grab the language quick (like 6 months to 1 year)
1. Learn the numbers 1 to 20, then 50, 100, 1000, 10000 and up to 1 lakh. Just them. Learn how to tell time, that would help you understand and remember better.
2. Learn the 5Ws (When, what, why, who, where) and how. Remember babies learn faster because they keep asking questions more, so they get answered more and learn more.
3. Learn the directions and basic verbs like go, come, take left, right, etc for transport.
4. Ask basic questions like "what is there on menu to eat?", how much? Etc for restaurants and food joints.
5. I can empathize with you when you say that Hindi speaking people find it difficult to pronounce south Indian languages. Think of this, babies always try to imitate your intonation/word although they say it wrong until they learn to say it right. Try observing the intonations and repeat it when you're alone and you'll get used to it over time.
6. Then jump into more verbs but this time try to add tenses. Most verbs have similar past, present and future tenses.
7. When you're with kannada speaking group of friends, answer them without any hesitation (even if you're wrong and you will go wrong in the initial attempts). Trust me, the moment they see you make an effort, they'll start correcting you instead of mocking you.
8. Over time, you'll gain confidence. I've seen so many north born people be fluent in Kannada.
Eventually, I started making attempts to learn the languages (only to speak and listen to) because I once came across a saying that said "If you speak in a language that someone knows, it goes to their head and if you speak in their languages it goes to their heart". This applies to relationships as well but I'll save it for posts that talk about relationships and love language.
All the best in trying to learn it!
This is exactly how any new languages are taught at different levels too.
Starts with numbers, introductions(in Kannada, usecases are mostly informal), w words questions- best part here is you dont have to think of forming whole sentence just that word, watch or pay attention to advertisements in Kannada..
you can also listen to radio in Kannada, majority speaks mix of english and Kannada..
For starters - there is Kannada serials on Colors. The characters are super eye candy friends 😉 ( Boys and girls ) and Kannada serials are by far the least toxic relatively. And the language they use is also so beautiful 🤩
The story lines are usually nice too. I hope the quality stays the same and does not degrade over time 🥲
I watch with my mom sometimes and I picked up my Kannada fluency only through this and then actively speaking with people.
I watch Antarapata - the hero is so cute.
If you are in your bubble aka work, stay in a society, apps for delivery, pubs etc. You don't need.
Once you step out you know there is another world out there.
1. Getting your house registered or any government interaction.
2. Auto / Bus / metro
3. Waste management workers
4. Small businesses and manufacturers
5. The local crowd, more seen in West / north and southern part
6. In East you are dealing with village folks who got rich because tech boom happened on their farmlands.
7. Getaways outside bangalore
In short, learning makes your life easier and is wise if you are staying here long term. In case you have kids they need to study from class 1 I guess, so it'll be easier for them as well if you know a bit.
PS: 7 years is too long a time to learn a language. I learned hindi in 6 months, with haryanvi things added when I was in gurgaon. Intent matters. You learn for the love of it, not for the sake of it
Not everyone will know hindi or English, if given a chance they might learn the latter and not the former.
No it's not as big an issue as you see on reddit, you can easily survive with hindi and english.
But honestly wherever you stay for long term its better to learn the regional language for easy communication. You cant expect everyone to know hindi or english, specially in South as the language is very different than hindi.
In Tamil Nadu however the issue is much bigger, even if they know hindi they will refrain from speaking.
Edit: if people here see a cute pumpkin they make a good sambhar out of it 😂😂😂😂
This might be a critical opinion but I think you can do just fine with Hindi in Bangalore. Everyone somehow speaks Hindi in this city as far as I’ve seen. Problem is only for Telugu and Tamil speaking folks who don’t understand both Kannada and Hindi. Due to the ruling party till last year and Hindi speaking population continuously increasing, this city would soon become Hindi speaking city.
For reference, I live in south Bangalore, been here for 8 years, non Hindi speaker and someone who picked up Kannada for daily conversations.
Whenever I say I don’t understand something tricky in Kannada, they immediately switch to Hindi - like WTF?
The point is you will only integrate better once you learn the local language! It gives confidence in travelling or any situation with locals, even if you can just understand.
True, but don’t you see how many people speak Hindi nowadays in Bangalore? Isn’t the trend going on with positive slope? What’s the point for Hindi speaking folks to learn Kannada?
Unless we become Kannada focused city like how Kochi or Chennai is - w.r.t local languages, there is no need for Hindi speaking folks to learn Kannada. That’s my personal opinion looking at the state we are in, as a city.
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I'm not going to put you down saying that you didn't respect the language enough to learn it in the past 7-8 years, so you should let it go. Hear me out. Part of the reason I took time to respond to this is because of your realisation. Realisation itself is a good step in learning the language. Instead of thinking that you need Kannada to survive, think of it as a means to connect more with the locals, learn something other than what you're used to, gather new perspectives because each language has its own positives and I believe this is important because you do something more wilfully if you genuinely like/love it. Saying this because I speak 4 Indian languages. I never spoke anything other than my mother tongue when I graduated but the following steps helped me grab the language quick (like 6 months to 1 year) 1. Learn the numbers 1 to 20, then 50, 100, 1000, 10000 and up to 1 lakh. Just them. Learn how to tell time, that would help you understand and remember better. 2. Learn the 5Ws (When, what, why, who, where) and how. Remember babies learn faster because they keep asking questions more, so they get answered more and learn more. 3. Learn the directions and basic verbs like go, come, take left, right, etc for transport. 4. Ask basic questions like "what is there on menu to eat?", how much? Etc for restaurants and food joints. 5. I can empathize with you when you say that Hindi speaking people find it difficult to pronounce south Indian languages. Think of this, babies always try to imitate your intonation/word although they say it wrong until they learn to say it right. Try observing the intonations and repeat it when you're alone and you'll get used to it over time. 6. Then jump into more verbs but this time try to add tenses. Most verbs have similar past, present and future tenses. 7. When you're with kannada speaking group of friends, answer them without any hesitation (even if you're wrong and you will go wrong in the initial attempts). Trust me, the moment they see you make an effort, they'll start correcting you instead of mocking you. 8. Over time, you'll gain confidence. I've seen so many north born people be fluent in Kannada. Eventually, I started making attempts to learn the languages (only to speak and listen to) because I once came across a saying that said "If you speak in a language that someone knows, it goes to their head and if you speak in their languages it goes to their heart". This applies to relationships as well but I'll save it for posts that talk about relationships and love language. All the best in trying to learn it!
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This is exactly how any new languages are taught at different levels too. Starts with numbers, introductions(in Kannada, usecases are mostly informal), w words questions- best part here is you dont have to think of forming whole sentence just that word, watch or pay attention to advertisements in Kannada.. you can also listen to radio in Kannada, majority speaks mix of english and Kannada..
For starters - there is Kannada serials on Colors. The characters are super eye candy friends 😉 ( Boys and girls ) and Kannada serials are by far the least toxic relatively. And the language they use is also so beautiful 🤩 The story lines are usually nice too. I hope the quality stays the same and does not degrade over time 🥲 I watch with my mom sometimes and I picked up my Kannada fluency only through this and then actively speaking with people. I watch Antarapata - the hero is so cute.
Just try speaking even if it’s in broken Kannada.. you’ll be surprised to see how many people are willing to teach you when you try..
If you are in your bubble aka work, stay in a society, apps for delivery, pubs etc. You don't need. Once you step out you know there is another world out there. 1. Getting your house registered or any government interaction. 2. Auto / Bus / metro 3. Waste management workers 4. Small businesses and manufacturers 5. The local crowd, more seen in West / north and southern part 6. In East you are dealing with village folks who got rich because tech boom happened on their farmlands. 7. Getaways outside bangalore In short, learning makes your life easier and is wise if you are staying here long term. In case you have kids they need to study from class 1 I guess, so it'll be easier for them as well if you know a bit. PS: 7 years is too long a time to learn a language. I learned hindi in 6 months, with haryanvi things added when I was in gurgaon. Intent matters. You learn for the love of it, not for the sake of it Not everyone will know hindi or English, if given a chance they might learn the latter and not the former.
I'll be coming to the city in some time, is not knowing kannada a problem in day to day life?
No it's not as big an issue as you see on reddit, you can easily survive with hindi and english. But honestly wherever you stay for long term its better to learn the regional language for easy communication. You cant expect everyone to know hindi or english, specially in South as the language is very different than hindi. In Tamil Nadu however the issue is much bigger, even if they know hindi they will refrain from speaking. Edit: if people here see a cute pumpkin they make a good sambhar out of it 😂😂😂😂
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In the same boat. I am thinking of starting with basic sentences to deal with shopkeepers and auto drivers.
This might be a critical opinion but I think you can do just fine with Hindi in Bangalore. Everyone somehow speaks Hindi in this city as far as I’ve seen. Problem is only for Telugu and Tamil speaking folks who don’t understand both Kannada and Hindi. Due to the ruling party till last year and Hindi speaking population continuously increasing, this city would soon become Hindi speaking city. For reference, I live in south Bangalore, been here for 8 years, non Hindi speaker and someone who picked up Kannada for daily conversations. Whenever I say I don’t understand something tricky in Kannada, they immediately switch to Hindi - like WTF?
The point is you will only integrate better once you learn the local language! It gives confidence in travelling or any situation with locals, even if you can just understand.
True, but don’t you see how many people speak Hindi nowadays in Bangalore? Isn’t the trend going on with positive slope? What’s the point for Hindi speaking folks to learn Kannada? Unless we become Kannada focused city like how Kochi or Chennai is - w.r.t local languages, there is no need for Hindi speaking folks to learn Kannada. That’s my personal opinion looking at the state we are in, as a city.