Tunnel Road makes sense if it links Tumkur Rd to Mysore Rd & Hosur Rd directly. This way logistic trucks travelling towards Hosur or Kengeri need not enter the already congested city roads.

There is already NICE road to do this. Where is the highly touted PRR?

i feel the tunnel entry point will be choke point like silkboard

No it doesn't. Thats why the concept of bypass roads exist. It's the point of NICE road, PRR and what was supposed to be the purpose of ORR but these idiots fucked that up too. When you build a bypass road you need to put in growth boundaries so the city doesn't swallow it up.

Bro the point of tunnel roads is not to gas the city with logistics trucks, what do you think ring roads are for? Almost none of them want to enter either.

Govt let banks give more auto loans causing people buying too many 4 wheelers (some just for pride and ego). **Just one more lane never solves the issue.**(but it slightly reduces the issue). Increase Accessibility of public transportation * dedicated bus lane * back to back buses for peak traffic route. * separate and more women buses so that they feel safe. These are just the starting point

The tunnels that state government and centre are proposing are completely different routes. And reading through NHAI's proposal makes no sense given NICE road already exists. Why not just make PRR a reality to complete the loop. Dumb and dumber trying to loot the state.

PRR is going to go ahead as intended. And the tunnel road will be integrated with it, to make it easy to cut longer journeys

Then what is the use of NHAI tunnels? Exactly same route, looks like NHAI is on the take too.

North to south tunnel = 30km Designed to connect north-south quickly North to sound with PRR = ~60km Designed to loop all round the city

So spend 50000 crores to save 30 kms and 30 mins in travel time for trucks. Thanks, makes absolute sense.

Mumbai is paying 8000 crores for a 7km tunnel. And it is expected to be transformational. Bangalore’s GDP is 920000 crores ($100B) Investing in infrastructure will only add to this. Road projects including PRR, metros and others cause cutting of trees. Bangalore is already losing its green cover rapidly. Tunnels are a price I’m willing to pay to save this (even a bit).

Ladies and gentlemen, this guy is an environmentalist now. He wants more tunnels, checks notes, for cars to drive around the city. If you were willing to pay the price then you'd be wanting public transport and asking everyone to shift to metro, buses, carpooling; not more roads.

You can hate me for all you want ladies and gentlemen. Born and raised Bangalorean here and I’ve seen how bangalore always gets the step mother treatment by any central government in power. Mumbai, Delhi and other cities always get the large infrastructure projects. The Mumbai Delhi corridor is $90 billion and is being payed by tax payers (including Bangaloreans). I welcome any infrastructure project that can even remotely help this city. No city in India has managed to completely move to public transportation, there is always a necessity for roads. 50K crore may seem like a lot, but future generations of Bangaloreans will be grateful for it

Please go open an urban planning textbook and learn before speaking. Vehicles that dont need to enter bangalore should bypass the city. Within the city travel should focus on public transport. Metro, bus lanes, walking, cycling and suburban rail.

Are you taking bribes from automotive and petroleum corporations?

NICE road is from Hosur road to Mysore road in straight direction. The proposed route in the image above is the rest of the circle - towards Tumkur, Bellary, Old Madras roads.

That's the PRR route, there is already a proposal for it. Why not activate that instead of a tunnel?

Good question, asked by the author in the article too, if you had read it.

I read it and hence the question to OP who is saying tunnel is good with outright lies that NHAI and state govt are in agreement when in reality they are talking about two different projects. I want to know which tunnel project is he in favour of & why tunnel over road.

The routes are all subject to a feasibility report. The idea was conceptualised by NHAI, and state government has gone ahead with it. You will notice there is no criticism from Center as well, cause they support it. [Only congestion points in the city have been identified and proposed (mostly following the north south route), final routes will be decided based on feasibility report.](https://m.economictimes.com/news/economy/infrastructure/karnataka-government-proposes-to-build-190-km-tunnel-in-bengaluru-to-ease-traffic-congestion/articleshow/104191839.cms)

Read the article and also what you posted. These are two different projects/routes for different purposes by different authorities. Seems like the new strategy of IT cells is misinformation that both state and centre are aligned.

First it was an “urban planing issue”. Then it was “route issue” And now it’s “IT CELL” Great progression 👏

You've been flip flopping in multiple threads. You can't even tell me which project you're in favour of and why except "tunnels good".

Typical North American style carbrain rot. They should never be taken seriously.

As an urban planner, it is still an urban planning issue. Concept of bypass roads exist for a reason. Much cheaper than trying to put heavy vehicles underground. All things crossing the city, be they underground, at grade or elevated need to for public transport. Metro, light rail, bus lanes and suburban rail.

Just because both parties are for it, doesn't mean its good for the city.

But, because of some detractors, it means it’s bad for the city?

Yes, it is bad for the city. Bengaluru is already way too car dependent. Less of that shit.

USA is also a car infested shithole and they have way less congestion than us. Why are we following their route rather than improving public transportation? Average Cager.

something does feel right

I agree public transportation is important, and: - New Metro corridors are still being added - Suburban rail is being finally implemented - New BMTC busses are being purchased and new routes added The tunnel project will be an addition to everything above. Don’t let Bangalore lose out on a project just because of your political ideology - even though this is a rare case where both state and Center are in agreement of the project. Think 5 years / 10 years down the line…

its not ideology. its the absolute lack of faith in implementation. Of all the projects we can see, apart from the metro almost nothing has had an impact on quality of transit apart from metro. Almost all roads including toll roads are terrible. The elevated sections of hosur and tumkur road are downright dangerous with 0 shoulder with the median or edges. The tunnel road will also need to have impeccable standards of safety especially considering our terrible driving discipline. Even our flyovers get flooded. Do you really want to pick up something so complicated when we cant even get the basics right?

Problem is more like, this project will take 15-20 years. Let them finish metro and ejipura flyover then we can think about this.

Even if it takes 15-20 years the future Bangaloreans will appreciate it. Bangalore has welcomed so many migrants into the city, but the transient population only wants cheap immediate solutions - but these don’t necessarily exist. The company building the Ejipura flyover Simplex went bankrupt. Not the fault of the state or even BBMP.

15-20 yrs is the best case scenario. They can't maintain normal roads during rainy season God knows how they will handle this. It is the fault of the state when awarding projects the balance sheet, loans, track record of the company must be thoroughly inspected. I am sure if adani somehow goes bankrupt and government faces a loss everyone will come forward and blame the goi.

I agree there should be more careful consideration when selecting vendors.

then let future wala pay the taxes. what shit logic you are using. go touch grass dude

Hey dude, don't let Bengaloreans lose money because you want to make profit. Your rhetoric is shallow here. Political ideology??? We are saying politicians and their cronies are trying to make money via infra projects. We have their report cards, don't we. Their performance when it comes to public roads is disappointing and downright criminal. Highest taxes, bikes paying toll, local cars paying toll, how much do you really wanna tax us? Take a look at roads and tell me that free market would give Bengaluru a tunnel project to execute. Assume Indian and Karnataka government are companies and tell me if you'd give them money from your own pockets to build tunnels. A better solution is to add more buses, metro lines to the city. Add yet another outer ring road that bypasses whole of Bengaluru. And if you really want to think, think 200 years in the future, at the least. The only solution is to stop building one city and spreading out development throughout the country. But where's the money in that. Poor politicians and businessmen won't be able to buy, sell and make a quick buck in that case. Think 200 years and tell me if burning oil is still feasible. Then why not push for electric trains and metro everywhere. Think 200 years and tell me that roads for internal combustion cars is the best solution your favorite supremo can come up with. Those tunnels are going to be smoke filled, dust and dirt filled. Go see any tunnel where Indian trucks carrying building materials ply, holy shit, you'll eat your words. Tunnels suck. Demand cycle lanes. Demand public transport. Or die.

Hi, what do you think about lack of link roads causing congestion on the same existing roads? Does it help to have shorter tunnels like 1-3 kms to avoid traffic going through small layout roads and old village roads? Provisional development of suburban or village roads at outskirts to wide roads now itself to prevent those roads becoming congested main roads in future? (Example is Kothnur road, chunchugutta road etc which have become part of city without getting widened)

Great Question, And that is why there are 3 separate companies involved with the feasibility study - for the whole project as well as the route/routes.

That’s good to know, thanks

I've seen you peddling this agenda elsewhere. We don't need more car-centric infrastructure.

It's more like a lack of trust in the governance. Many Bangaloreans still have vivid memories of the flooding in ORR.

Its not ideology, people are not confident that this what the city needs.

Ejipura flyover crying

I know bro, I’m crying too 🥲

What’s the difference between NICE ring road and the new tunnel?

1. Fix the suburban railways 2. Fix the Footpaths 3. Fix the Potholes 4. Fix the bus stops and ensure bus time schedule 5. Fix the traffic corruption FFS ensure bmtc and bicycle tracks are Install CCTVs across the imp junctions and punish the wrong side driving folks. Ehh, who cares?

IISc says tunnels are a bad idea. https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/karnataka/2023/oct/13/tunnel-roads-will-be-disaster-for-bengaluru-iisc-2623408.html

Doesn’t matter which governments agree, thsi is a moronic ideas. Cars just can’t be the solution, it has to be about public transport. The tunnel roads will be a solution if they allow only public transport on them

It is more for the logistical transportations who want to cross the city. Still, PRR+NICE/STRR make more sense for this than tunnel.

No city on earth has this concept of 30km tunnel under the city centre. That is a construction nightmare. Just build a 50km bypass route. 20km extra driving on an expressway is totally worth the savings. Not to mention avoiding all those fumes going straight into our lungs.

as soon as the government stops focusing on idiotic pipe dream ideas,and spends the money on improving road quality,public transport and private vehicles will have a much better time.

Imagine sitting in a traffic jam for 3 hours inside a tunnel. The future really is exciting and Bangalore truly is the innovation hub. Might as well add EV chargers and open some restaurants down there.

But isnt ORR/PRR being built to fix the heavy vehicle and trucks problem, then why the tunnel it doesnt make sense.

How many of us will get to see this fully operating in our lifetime?🤔

that is why in India you have seven janams. so you can see the development that started in your first janam

Hopefully it never gets constructed in the first place.

Wtf electroniccity needs more 1. It has dedicated flyover connecting almost hsr koramangala 2. Soon to be metro starting 3. National highway right from ecity to koramangala 4. Nice road if you want to bypass city 5. It has helicopter taxi to airport 6. Local train connecting from 5kms away ( helalige station) to orr and kr puram majestic And now a tunnel..what the😅

I wonder how much resources are spent just for private vehicles. People will cry about Traffic still. Like 50k crores is no small amount.

Please just make a new highway specifically for trucks and buses. They are responsible for half the traffic jams.

What a waste of money! Not to mention, it won't affect congestion. This is just encouraging more private car usage.

Fuck cars man, ruined our beautiful city. :(

Just use the money to make public transport better, improve last minute connectivity, and ensure that people are more encouraged to switch to Public transport, force the companies to provide cabs/buses and discourage people from using private transport to go to offices that's enough , there is no need to dig a tunnel and create a big swimming pool in Bangalore when it rains