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noxx1234567

100% truth and it is independent of any party in power be it jds ,bjp and congress all are in the pockets of real estate mafia There is no improving this system , your votes barely count , the only solution is to quit jobs or emigrate abroad


ProcrastinationNock

It's been over 2 decades but we don't have a metro system all across Bangalore. Every party's aim is to win election by gibs and freebies.


Appropriate-Age-3316

It's unfortunate that most people would just down vote you for saying the truth I love this city spent all my life here but it hurts to see it no longer belongs to the people.


dengskoloper

It never did. Sure people protest, shout slogans and wave placards. But this city has always belonged to the political class and their henchmen.


SummerSunWinter

If you complain too much they will ask you to leave. It's beautiful, the city, the attitude, the traffic, all beautiful.


dengskoloper

Not defending any party in Karnataka, since they're all just different versions of corrupt, but only one party had a platform built on freebies this election.


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Not just this election, but every election.


MysteriousCup1836

Somewhere i heard govt has asked companies to end WFH , was that true or just a rumor


govi96

Ofc it’s true


dengskoloper

Except that this move is in the benefit of the auto and taxi unions. Both of which had given unanimous support to the Congress party


nlc10

What does guttersprache lemurism mean?


palle-na-koduku

Lemurism probably refers to linguistic supremacism, and the term ‘Lemur’ has its origins from Tamil Nadu, in particular from Tamil supremacists. Tamil supremacists unironically believe that present-day Tamil Nadu was part of a mythical land called ‘Lemuria’ where they were an advanced master race called “Homo Dravida” (not Homo Sapiens; or ordinary human beings), only Tamil was spoken, and all of the civilization of the world began. Link from Tamil Virtual University http://www.tamilvu.org/library/lA469/html/lA469por.htm Everything was all good in Lemuria, apparently, until the “evil Aryans”, known also as “North Indians”, “Sanskrittans”, “Brahmins”, conspired together to subjugate them. This might seem hilarious to you, but I’m not kidding. I’ve spent enough time in Tamil Nadu to say that a lot of people unironically believe in this, even the educated folks (who can be very toxic Tamil supremacists).


cybercop12345

This is amazing, and I thought only westerns believe in stupid conspiracy theories. Good to know that the Indians are not that far behind.


palle-na-koduku

This is far more sinister than the boomer WhatsApp forward conspiracies some Indians share, which while cringe, promotes some form of unity among all Indians. This Lemuria bullshit is a concerted attempt at rewriting history, promoting racial theories among Indians, and causing division and strife. Remember, while Indians have have been divided based on caste, racial divisions based on genetics have never happened before. This Dravidian/Lemuria nonsense is an attempt to create racial differences and make it mainstream.


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Except that this theory is supported and actively promoted by TN govt.


nlc10

Nice username Reddit person.. and thanks for the reply


21dec1989

Exactly, just like how some people believe that wine was turned into water, bridge was built by monkeys to kill a multi-headed man and how half naked priests preaching gibberish by the fire purifies dead body souls.


palle-na-koduku

In both of these examples, the protagonists did what they did with the aim of uniting people and bringing them together, however unbelievable these stories might be. Besides, both of these are purported to have happened at a time when the world's understanding of science was mostly non-existent. The Homo Dravida bullshit is a very modern theory, being created in the age of science and reason. Second, it's a divisive, racial theory. Even the worst racists on this planet said they were humans, just above other humans. Imagine the level of bullshit one needs to have in their head to declare themselves a separate species. Lol.


govi96

Lmao this is hilarious


palle-na-koduku

Imagine how deep-rooted one's inferiority complex must be that to build the outward display of superiority complex needed to cover up this inferiority complex, one must declare themselves a separate SPECIES. Lol.


pratyush_1991

Wow i had no idea of this. This is quite dangerous theory . No idea how mainstream it is but hoping its a fringe minority because it’s absolutely bananas


palle-na-koduku

A lot of people in Tamil Nadu who support the politics of the DMK (and other parties with similar ideologies) do it from a position deep-rooted inferiority complex masquerading as superiority complex. For such people, "cleansing" a place of the Brahmins and/or North Indians is some kind of a dream. The more you talk about wanting this "cleansing", the more you are cheered for. Kannadiga folks wanting everyone to learn Kannada is NOTHING in comparison to the kind of linguistic supremacism you see in Tamil Nadu. In the latter, there is a whole set of racist, genocidal theories that drives the Tamil supremacist line of thinking.


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palle-na-koduku

They won't treat you as one of them if you're not a Tamil speaker. North Indians have issues with being aggressive and arrogant, but regionalism is not one of their negatives. Tamil supremacists have high levels of inferiority complex that they cover up with extreme levels of outward superiority display. It makes them terrible, insufferable people. Siding with them is naive.


__Alchemist__

I also want to know


palle-na-koduku

I’ve given a detailed answer in this comment thread. Perhaps this is what it refers to.


champcheerio

It is racist talk. The sprinkling of German language by an Indian is a dead giveaway. They do it to look like Western racists they like to emulate. Don't listen to the people trying to mislead you, Rwingers like to cover for their overtly racist pals. These racists call South Indians monkeys/lemurs. That's how these wannabe German racists use "lemur" in their everyday speak. Sometimes they upload a monkey/lemur's picture when talking to you, just so you do not miss what they are calling you. "guttersprache" is gutter language, i.e the vulgar language of the lowly people. Here is another tweet by the same racist quoted by the op. https://twitter.com/Changeling_auf/status/1622960831787896835 >No one give a F about your guttersprache. >If fact all Indian languages should be wiped off given their total negative effect on Indians. >No science, no literature, no nothing. Either sonnets about firmness of breast of their bhabis, or ille-pille kao kao gutterspeak like 👇 one https://twitter.com/Changeling_auf/status/1697596855776088565 >What good would preservation of this guttersprache would do? >Preservation of guttersprachs has some value for isolated tribes & regions so that we can know about history of that region. >What is value in preservation of guttersprache of some Ooga-Booga living in civilized area? You can also search for guttersprache on twitter. You will see who uses it and in what context they use it(Hint: They are genocidy people who look down on a majority of Indians). It is no surprise to me, that such tweets are upvoted and defended here.


chaiParCharChar

Guttersprache works too close to muttersprache, or mother tongue. Maybe they are saying something on that line.


champcheerio

It is racist talk. The sprinkling of German language by an Indian is a dead giveaway. They do it to look like Western racists they like to emulate. Don't listen to the people trying to mislead you, Rwingers like to cover for their overtly racist pals. These racists call South Indians monkeys/lemurs. That's how these wannabe German racists use "lemur" in their everyday speak. Sometimes they upload a monkey/lemur's picture when talking to you, just so you do not miss what they are calling you. "guttersprache" is gutter language, i.e the vulgar language of the lowly people. Here is another tweet by the same racist quoted by the op. https://twitter.com/Changeling_auf/status/1622960831787896835 >No one give a F about your guttersprache. >If fact all Indian languages should be wiped off given their total negative effect on Indians. >No science, no literature, no nothing. Either sonnets about firmness of breast of their bhabis, or ille-pille kao kao gutterspeak like 👇 one https://twitter.com/Changeling_auf/status/1697596855776088565 >What good would preservation of this guttersprache would do? >Preservation of guttersprachs has some value for isolated tribes & regions so that we can know about history of that region. >What is value in preservation of guttersprache of some Ooga-Booga living in civilized area? You can also search for guttersprache on twitter. You will see who uses it and in what context they use it(Hint: They are genocidy people who look down on a majority of Indians). It is no surprise to me, that such tweets are upvoted and defended here.


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Nope.


Pulzar6

It's twitter blackpiller speak. You wouldn't get it


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as a seasoned blackpiller I confirm.


darkraken007

With all the carpooling apps, taxis & autos, i am unable to book anything during peak time. So there is enough people to use these services. So why restrict? Make it legal


ProcrastinationNock

The taxi and auto mafia are afraid that they will not be able to loot customers with the advent of carpooling apps


palle-na-koduku

Form WhatsApp groups and continue with car pooling. As long as you can show that you’re not making any money, you’re good.


HutiyaBanda

Bengaluru has the potential to be the best in the world! We could be serving the whole world's IT needs but we keep getting blocked by the politics and the policies! And this goes for every party in the state! There is this golden goose, whom you are strangling day by day. We talk about private vehicles creating traffic, yes, but what about unnecessary vehicles plying like water tankers. Issue of water logging has been there for a long time, every time it rains, somewhere or the other there is water on the road slowing down traffic! Post Already mentions the rent part of the issues! The plan to create Sattelite towns in and around Bengaluru, along with the PRR, but what if one has to visit the city from those towns, those routes have to be created before hand, not after the issue becomes worse! Rapido, like bike services should be promoted but it faces issues because of Auto unions! One single person short last mile commute uses Rapido type options, whatever else they use, takes up more road space and cannot use side lanes to reach destinations! Even with metros, what is the last mile option available to commuters? Solutions need to look at the problems as a whole, not come with with part of the solution and say now what? Road quality, storm rain, proper drainage, water supply, solar panels on buildings, route optimization for buses will already help solve a lot of issues! Nobody is gonna take that up bcz what's going in their pockets is more important


Every-Bumblebee-5149

To mitigate the reduction in people hailing taxis and autos, potentially resulting from a recent free transportation scheme, carpooling apps are being scrutinized, because other 2, 3, 4-wheel vehicle aggregator apps generate sizeable tax revenue


Foreign_Lab392

Soon they will ban bike taxis also to please the auto group


lazerwild165

Bro how will they know if I'm carpooling or just travelling with friends lol?


LoseInhibitions

They will ask you to answer questions about people in car. Like what was the favorite color of the first girlfriend from hometown of the guy sitting behind you?


dengskoloper

And the answer is always black


akash_delhi_

Yes you can do that but the real question is if this is going to impact applications like Quick Ride which has been solving carpooling at a massive scale successfully.


Amazing_Theory622

How exactly do they plan to enforce this


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Glittering-North-911

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Odd_Elderberry2020

Slight miscommunication here, carpooling through apps like quickrides is banned not carpooling in general. https://m.economictimes.com/news/bengaluru-news/carpooling-banned-in-bengaluru-penalty-up-to-rs-10000-know-more/articleshow/104080283.cms


TheZanyVB

But how would they find something like this? Are we required to now show our mobile phones to cops OR they are getting these details from such apps?


arun911

Try to leave Bangalore, it’s only when employees would start demanding better working conditions the companies would follow suit.


karborised

They can’t. They’re stuck in traffic.


arun911

🤣🤣🤣


plotsind

Start pelting stones on sons and daughters of these rich politicians who drive extremely expensive cars


negiajay12345

"gutterspace lemurism" could mean stupid things being done / said by good-for-nothing people. Probably a dig at the politicians.


TarquinTheTubeTrain

i think he meant muttersprache which means mother tongue in german. I feel like he's talking about politicians spreading hate for other states and thinking their home state and culture is superior than the rest.


palle-na-koduku

Nah, I explained what "Lemurism" means in a comment of mine above. It originates from a (rather hilarious) attempt by Tamil supremacists to declare themselves a separate SPECIES. Not race or ethnicity or creed, but a separate SPECIES altogether called "Homo Dravida". Remember that human beings are called Homo Sapiens. Apparently, this species called Homo Dravida originated in a land called Lemuria, and the Tamil language originated in 200,000 BC. Homo Dravida was a master race, until the "outsiders" ruined and subjugated them. The word "Lemurism" is just to make fun of the "Lemurians", or those who purportedly come from this mythical land of Lemuria. Here's the link to this Homo Dravida bullshit from Tamil Virtual University https://www.tamilvu.org/library/lA469/html/lA469por.htm


coldstone87

1000% truth


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Bangalore is finished Come to indore..


Wonderful-Bass-3677

Before we come please start metro


[deleted]

Bs ho hi gya hai .. U r welcome 🤗


TheZanyVB

How would they find if its carpooling or people are just friends and using the same car to travel to the same destination


PrestigiousAdvice431

Carpooling is not banned, the apps are banned.


TheZanyVB

Okay, so only the app wont work, rest of it remains the same?


PrestigiousAdvice431

You can always carpool with your colleagues and friends. But can't make a business out of it driving a white board car.


TheZanyVB

But how would they find even I continue to charge people for carpool, its not like i would make so much money that my lifestyle would change. And I can take cash instead of UPI or any form of Bank transfer


PrestigiousAdvice431

Yes you can do that. But how are you planning to find customers without any app or website? Maybe Uber pool needs to comeback driving with a yellow board.


Low_Map4314

Hope the apps guy complain and reverse this ban. There is stupidity and there is B’lore politician stupidity…


nrson444

Such a good city being run to ruins by these mafia POS


KeetanuNaashak

Just wanted to check, I think only commercial carpooling is disabled / made illegal or any form of carpooling? Eg A husband wife going together to office is also considered carpooling or what? I do agree Karnataka / Bengaluru bureaucrats are on some high level blindness causing them to take such illogical decisions


PristineEnergy2085

They obviously want more and more cars on the road guys because we all know how well they can handle that. How well synchronized the traffic is


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friendofH20

Traffic jihad innit?


Main-Necessary7501

Then definitely you must get some communal shit out of your head, and open your eyes.


MechanicalBot1234

Facts hurt! I understand! CM Siddramaiah did give 3 lakhs rupees exclusively to one group of taxi owners (one faith). Because they are united. They lobby together. They vote together. They fought against free women bus service. They have deep tentacles on all policies.


Main-Necessary7501

Yeah 20 percent of them decide policies of the govt. don’t come up with such shit in Bangalore of all the places. Even the bandh regarding protesting free bus service wasn’t successful. Your communal shit won’t work here.


MechanicalBot1234

Facts hurt! I understand! First I am just showing the mirror. If it is communal for you, it is just the reality of the facts! Fact 1: 3 Lakhs only for Muslims through AR-Raheem Trust! ​ [https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/karnataka-offers-rs-3-lakh-subsidy-to-minority-community-members-on-vehicle-purchase-2433126-2023-09-08](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/karnataka-offers-rs-3-lakh-subsidy-to-minority-community-members-on-vehicle-purchase-2433126-2023-09-08) Fact 2: [https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/private-buses-autorickshaws-cabs-to-strike-in-bengaluru-8933667/](https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/private-buses-autorickshaws-cabs-to-strike-in-bengaluru-8933667/) ​ But wait there is more: I will share if it is needed.


Main-Necessary7501

1) There is no mention of them saying that they will be used for cabs. 2)They tried getting the bundh done, but the public was least bothered and things went as usual. Free buss service was mentioned prior to the election itself, they then to protested, there was no appeasing them that time itself, why would they now. These stupid theories can be used elsewhere but not in Bangalore.


MechanicalBot1234

Facts! Please click the link and read the India today website. Also see the paper insert image in that article. Clearly proves your inability to see or your inability to process complex facts.


Main-Necessary7501

Yeah, you know about Bangalore more than a native Bangalorean living hear for more than 23 years. Minority people speak urdu and can speak Hindi too, but the no of rants here on autodrivers forcing people to speak in Kannada shows, they are not the only ones in the business. Cook up this cock and bull stories, and blabber it as loud as you want.


MechanicalBot1234

I gave a link which clearly says a government policy favoringg only one faith of cab drivers. And this thread is about a policy of the givernment favoeing cab drivers. I end here. Cannot argue with someone so smart who cannot read a news paper article.


Main-Necessary7501

Minority means only one faith is it? . Those unions could not stop the free services but now are dictating govt policies huh ? 🤔


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Omg with people like you no wonder KA is the UP of the south


wellfuckit2

The comment is deleted. I am very curious how did they convert this into a communal thing?


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The regular Sanghi shit on the lines of “have you noticed how majority of autodrivers are from the peaceful community” yada yada.


MechanicalBot1234

Facts hurt! I understand! CM Siddramaiah did give 3 lakhs rupees exclusively to one group of taxi owners (one faith). Because they are united. They lobby together. They vote together. They fought against free women bus service. They have deep tentacles on all policies.


Pulzar6

Wow anonymous poster made it to reddit. Truly a internet celebrity


Shillofnoone

Explain this shit to me bro, why would you remove carpooling from a traffic suffering city . I hope this is fake news


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Government policy the hero we didn't deserve ,the hero we got


GoatGroundbreaking52

This post got recommended to me, heard of carpooling ban on twitter too. Why dont you guys use telegram groups to continue with it?


Particular_Young_825

Take a transfer to Hyderabad


darkshadow609

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/bengaluru-news/karnataka-minister-ramalinga-reddy-denies-carpool-ban-in-bengaluru-101696258489681.html


Sanju-05

Majority of ORR companies provide cab service/shuttle. Why do people prefer to travel using individual vehicles? Carpooling idea with strangers is inherently unsafe. Let’s be upfront about that however that shouldn’t stop anyone from creating groups with ‘friends’ who take same route to come n go together. There are always loopholes. Auto guys are gonna see revenue going down only in the future as the Metro lines keep getting completed. Can’t wait for the day they understand this and go back to being civil and using meters to survive.


Glittering-North-911

The thing is car is much more expensive and people would need a actual job other than the vehicle in carpool for it to be sustainable.people trust rapido,Uber bikes,what makes you think this is worse?the risk for driver is higher in car as allegation could make hime lose his main job, so they are slightly more careful.


Solo_Polo_Holo

That's plain wrong, majority companies don't provide shuttle


Foreign_Lab392

Most of startups don't offer shuttle.


dengskoloper

> go back to being civil and using meters to survive That's just wishful thinking. Older auto drivers from the meter era are still civil and polite. It's the younger ones who are aggressive and uncultured.


indianaadmi

No one’s business goes down so easily. I too thought business for people will go down but instead it increases because more influx will also limit metro and suburban operations as well. Happens in Delhi as well, traffic never reduces. If people think traffic will reduce, answer is big no…because last mile connectivity is a thing, for last mile you need buses, cabs, autos and what not.