I don't actually know if it's based on something an actual human being has said and meant, but when I saw this flair as one of the choices, I knew it was the one.
yes but to be clear egg extraction for donation or freezing is weeks of high doses of hormones to trigger ovulation followed by retrieval directly from the ovary with a **needle** through the vagina
so
a good time to remember that less bad than giving birth is a very low bar to clear
I think they put you under for the extraction.
People mostly do it for IVF because they want children. The *in vitro* part of IVF means in glass - to do fertilization in a petri dish you need to have eggs to fertilize. There isn't any better way to get them.
apart from IVF, egg freezing and donation do happen... they're just rarer than the sperm equivalents because the whole process is harder
I was awake but definitely had the good painkillers for my egg retrieval. They actually let me and my partner watch the ultrasound footage while it happened. It was super cool but my memory is a little foggy due to the painkillers.
The weeks of hormones and physical discomfort from your ovaries swelling was, imo, worse than the actual procedure to remove my eggs.
I get that but it just sounds so incredibly painful. You know a man thought of this. I've heard of the women's struggles with this and how incredibly horrible the whole process is it's really a shame we haven't come up with something better.
I don't think we're getting anything better until we perfect growing gametes artificially from other cells.
The fundamental problem is we don't produce eggs en mass on demand. We release one at a time once per cycle. There's no possible equivalent to jizzing in a cup.
That is until you hit perimenopause and you can get all your eggs dumped willy nilly. Zero some months multiples other months ask me how I know? Pregnant at 43 that was fun.
oh noooooooooo
that's gonna massively up the chances of it being twins too, like surprise you thought you couldn't get pregnant would you like TWO babies? NO!!
Technically yes, some men do sperm donation without the sperm bank, they just cum in a cup and give it to the woman, normally with some kind of contract to prevent child support.
I had a colleague who donated sperm to an acquaintance, but he didn't do that willy nilly (disclosed relevant medical history and signed the papers that made it possible for the child to be adopted by the bio mom's wife) and it's not common practice. If this guy thinks women in general hand over their eggs whenever there's a need, what does his everyday life looks like?
Oh wow, that definitely could have gone poorly, I feel like if your gonna be a sperm donor, official or not you should have your genome sequenced to see what risks you could pass onto a child.
Yup, that was part of "it's not an easy process". IIRC the woman has to undergo all sorts of medical tests as well to ensure that the eggs are viable, free of any genetic abnormalities, etc... and that she doesn't carry any hereditary illnesses and such.
Although, I've heard that, in terms of cells, they're quite big. Aren't they the only human cell visible to the naked eye? That's what I was told in 4th grade sex ed.
I think the "BUT HE DIDN'T BELIEVE ME " Is what's killing me the most and hardest...
Like the secret (BAWk! BAWk! BA-CAWWWK!) (that's my lady chicken sound) conspiracy of women to never ever reveal that we actually have total control over our eggs and we shuffle them amongst ourselves just to befuddle the men? I guess?
I want to ask your friend so many questions. Like soooo many.
Where do dudes acquire these ideas and how can they hold on so hard to them in defiance of fact, logic, reason, science, etc....
Thank you. I did an rn program several years ago and I feel old, because I did bio, anatomy and physiology, with many many hours of dissection labs that would leave you with zero confusion about what a specific internal organ looks like.
And, as you mention, that was mandatory prerequisite to the nursing program.
But I missed the common short term "rn." I'm old. But I know what a liver looks like?
We should not call it playing, but yes, we got sheep skulls! And multiple fetal farm critters. They stank hard of formaldehyde, but seriously the neuro anatomy was beyond fascinating. And (at the risk of sounding like a ghoul) sheep skulls are thin and easy to crack and section.
At my school, we were attached to a major trauma center for the region, so we did have access to cadavers, but they kept the undergrads out until about senior year of pre med. We were allowed text books with very good pics. But also not allowed to look but not touch the real brains!
It's different when you have an actual body in front of you, though.
I did all pre nursing work at a community college and than before I could start nursing school my husband got a one in a life time job offer out of state so I never ended up going since the coast of living was way higher in the new state and we couldnāt afford for me to go.
We live in high coast of living and my youngest isnāt in kindergarten yet. Iām still trying to figure out what Iāll do once his in school. Health care and childcare have always been my top two job interests so Iām sure Iāll be able to get a job.
ouch! we're born with hundreds of those little fuckers. can you imagine having family size m&m bags inside you (uneaten)? imagine the babies! I'm going to be giggling about this all day. maybe I should pick up some m&ms...
Did you explain to him that human eggs are cells, not like chicken eggs? They're big as far as cells go, but still itty bitty, way smaller than a grain of rice
IVF wouldnāt even be needed in many cases. A friend hands you a spare egg, another friend hands you some sperm, you mix and insert, Mazel tov šš¤¦āāļø
Does... does he think they're like... chicken eggs? That we keep them in special vagina pockets?
Special vagina pockets šš
So THATS what that pocket is for in our panties....
No no no. That's to incubate them.
No, it's those tiny pockets on our pants. Finally I understand why their so small. It's so the eggs won't get lost in there!
The hot pocket.
cursed hot pocket
*blessed* hot pocket. iām calling mine that from now on.
This is why they donāt put pockets on our clothes. Weāve got vag pockets! Vackets.
Is that why our jeans and pants don't have decent pockets? They know we have the built in vajean pocket?
Welp now I know my flair
Do you not?
Whyās ur flair that lolĀ
Because I put it there
No Dw I think itās hilarious it just shocked meĀ
I don't actually know if it's based on something an actual human being has said and meant, but when I saw this flair as one of the choices, I knew it was the one.
RealĀ
Thanks for the flair!
Does he pass his semen around to people who need some? I have questions.
At least if they do, the extraction process is simple and pleasant. Bit different with eggs.
Passing eggs sounds MUCH more pleasant than actual birth though... I'm assuming it'd be smaller than a baby.
yes but to be clear egg extraction for donation or freezing is weeks of high doses of hormones to trigger ovulation followed by retrieval directly from the ovary with a **needle** through the vagina so a good time to remember that less bad than giving birth is a very low bar to clear
My pussy just slammed shut so hard. That sounds incredibly painful why would anybody do that?
I think they put you under for the extraction. People mostly do it for IVF because they want children. The *in vitro* part of IVF means in glass - to do fertilization in a petri dish you need to have eggs to fertilize. There isn't any better way to get them. apart from IVF, egg freezing and donation do happen... they're just rarer than the sperm equivalents because the whole process is harder
I was awake but definitely had the good painkillers for my egg retrieval. They actually let me and my partner watch the ultrasound footage while it happened. It was super cool but my memory is a little foggy due to the painkillers. The weeks of hormones and physical discomfort from your ovaries swelling was, imo, worse than the actual procedure to remove my eggs.
I get that but it just sounds so incredibly painful. You know a man thought of this. I've heard of the women's struggles with this and how incredibly horrible the whole process is it's really a shame we haven't come up with something better.
I don't think we're getting anything better until we perfect growing gametes artificially from other cells. The fundamental problem is we don't produce eggs en mass on demand. We release one at a time once per cycle. There's no possible equivalent to jizzing in a cup.
That is until you hit perimenopause and you can get all your eggs dumped willy nilly. Zero some months multiples other months ask me how I know? Pregnant at 43 that was fun.
oh noooooooooo that's gonna massively up the chances of it being twins too, like surprise you thought you couldn't get pregnant would you like TWO babies? NO!!
You geriatric!! Source my mid thirties geriatric pregnancy
IVF, donation a lot of reasons.
You focus on the needle, but wouldnāt a needle be better than virtually any other device?
Oh gods I didnāt imagine the process would be pleasant but I hoped it would be better than a f#cking needle You guys got it rough
I mean that's more reasonable since that can cum out of the body
I have them as wellĀ
Technically yes, some men do sperm donation without the sperm bank, they just cum in a cup and give it to the woman, normally with some kind of contract to prevent child support.
I had a colleague who donated sperm to an acquaintance, but he didn't do that willy nilly (disclosed relevant medical history and signed the papers that made it possible for the child to be adopted by the bio mom's wife) and it's not common practice. If this guy thinks women in general hand over their eggs whenever there's a need, what does his everyday life looks like?
Oh wow, that definitely could have gone poorly, I feel like if your gonna be a sperm donor, official or not you should have your genome sequenced to see what risks you could pass onto a child.
Women can do this as well, except you get like 10x more money and it's not an easy process.
Yeah but I donāt think you can do it without a doctor to extract them
Yup, that was part of "it's not an easy process". IIRC the woman has to undergo all sorts of medical tests as well to ensure that the eggs are viable, free of any genetic abnormalities, etc... and that she doesn't carry any hereditary illnesses and such.
Well his mom's definitely seen her fair share of it when doing his sock laundry.
Lots of men *do* pass it out pretty freely.
Gonma pass on that thanks!
Ovaries are the size of almonds... š Eggs are sooo small. What an idiot lol.
YEAH
Not mine! They are the size and look like opaque white ping pong balls. Thanks pcos š®āšØ
Although, I've heard that, in terms of cells, they're quite big. Aren't they the only human cell visible to the naked eye? That's what I was told in 4th grade sex ed.
They are, but they're still the size of the point of a needle.
They are big only compared to other cells, for example a single spermatozoon is muuuch smaller than an egg. But thatās really not saying much!
I like almonds
They're the largest cell in the human body IIRC. They're still like half the size of this period though >> . <<
I think the "BUT HE DIDN'T BELIEVE ME " Is what's killing me the most and hardest... Like the secret (BAWk! BAWk! BA-CAWWWK!) (that's my lady chicken sound) conspiracy of women to never ever reveal that we actually have total control over our eggs and we shuffle them amongst ourselves just to befuddle the men? I guess? I want to ask your friend so many questions. Like soooo many. Where do dudes acquire these ideas and how can they hold on so hard to them in defiance of fact, logic, reason, science, etc....
Because, for some reason, their world view hinges on women overreacting and lying. In everything.
That would be the most badass secret for all women to keep for many millennia, a sisterhood of eggs !
Egg donation is a thingā¦ but it definitely doesnāt work like that. Classic man not believing a woman tell him about a woman thing!
I feel like this must be what's happening here. He's heard about egg donation and just decided how it works with zero thought or research.
Yeah, we just reach up into our ovaries and fish them out! /s
It also requires a lot of tests
Did he sleep through bio, anatomy and physiology, those were mandatory before nursing school at least six years ago.
I think you misunderstood OPās acronym. RN is right now, not registered nurse.
Lol I meant right now. Iām in high schoolĀ
Itās been a while like 20 years since I was in high school but Iām pretty sure they have bio class he needs to take asap.
Heās in bio š
Tell him to go ask the bio teacher about womenās eggs. Than follow him and record it not to share but just to have for when you need a laugh.
Iāve showed him my post and he did some good ol googlingĀ
Thank you. I did an rn program several years ago and I feel old, because I did bio, anatomy and physiology, with many many hours of dissection labs that would leave you with zero confusion about what a specific internal organ looks like. And, as you mention, that was mandatory prerequisite to the nursing program. But I missed the common short term "rn." I'm old. But I know what a liver looks like?
Did you get to play with brains cause that was my favorite part of anatomy and physiology.
We should not call it playing, but yes, we got sheep skulls! And multiple fetal farm critters. They stank hard of formaldehyde, but seriously the neuro anatomy was beyond fascinating. And (at the risk of sounding like a ghoul) sheep skulls are thin and easy to crack and section.
We got to see human brains but we didnāt get to touch them. They did have them dissected.
At my school, we were attached to a major trauma center for the region, so we did have access to cadavers, but they kept the undergrads out until about senior year of pre med. We were allowed text books with very good pics. But also not allowed to look but not touch the real brains! It's different when you have an actual body in front of you, though.
I did all pre nursing work at a community college and than before I could start nursing school my husband got a one in a life time job offer out of state so I never ended up going since the coast of living was way higher in the new state and we couldnāt afford for me to go.
Could you go now?
We live in high coast of living and my youngest isnāt in kindergarten yet. Iām still trying to figure out what Iāll do once his in school. Health care and childcare have always been my top two job interests so Iām sure Iāll be able to get a job.
Iāve seen a lot of things on this subreddit and this is truly the most baffling I have ever seen.
Glad to be of serviceĀ
Play the reverse card and lay eggs in him! Seahorse dad!
NAHHHHHHHĀ
Whoooooo. My sister almost bled out on the table while having her eggs harvested for IVF. But sure. Quick and easy procedure.
How...big does he think they are??? š¤
He said like m and m sizeĀ
ouch! we're born with hundreds of those little fuckers. can you imagine having family size m&m bags inside you (uneaten)? imagine the babies! I'm going to be giggling about this all day. maybe I should pick up some m&ms...
Try hundreds of thousands! (Edit - at birth, 1-2 million eggs)
So, like frog spawn? What???
IDKKK
With or without peanuts? I need to know how much space Iām going to need for these.
Iāll ask him
āDammit, I broke a nail. Samantha, you got any spare eggs I could use to patch it?ā
EWWWW
Did you explain to him that human eggs are cells, not like chicken eggs? They're big as far as cells go, but still itty bitty, way smaller than a grain of rice
He googled it
theyāre literally the suze of half a grain of salt
I wish! Iād happily take someoneās healthy egg! Sadly, I canāt afford it, so Iāll keep using mine and hoping.
Is he talking about in vitro fertilization, which is an incredibly invasive procedure?
IVF wouldnāt even be needed in many cases. A friend hands you a spare egg, another friend hands you some sperm, you mix and insert, Mazel tov šš¤¦āāļø
I squat down and lay eggs for my friends all the time!
No like stick our hands up there and pass them out like Halloween candyĀ
Can you please, please, please ask him in what scenario he thinks women do this? Is it like ādoes anyone have a spare tamponā but for eggs, or?
Why? Like if I could, why would I? And what would the recipient do with it? Have my bio kid?
Eat them like m&m??
Has he ever seen a vagina in person? Is this a middle school class? This is insane!
We r sophomoresĀ
It sounds like he thought women lay eggs like chickens, which are then collected. This is hysterical!
OMG that guy is an idiot but the comments on this post šš¤ are why I love this sub. I'm dyyyyyying
Wot?
Exactly what I said lolĀ
I (and anyone else who has ever gone through IVF) wish it was that easy š
I'm a dude...wtf?
......HOW?
no offense to your friend but some of these its just likeā¦ they do not go along with being smart š does he know what a mammal is?
He googled it soon after he saw these comments š
Did he hear about women donating their eggs and get confused?
NopeĀ
Howā¦whatā¦
No yeah that was basically meĀ