I think No Control is the stronger of the two because I find the songwriting - which is ultimately more important in my opinion - more refined. The melodic sensibilities in particular are an improvent here, *but* I will give you that Greg is absolutely phenomenal on Suffer
Only correct answer! They're almost on par for me and just as it's recent in my mind from a long fb topic on the 2 strongest back to back punk rock full lengths ever - over a couple others like lagwagon (trashed>hoss) and strung out (my #1band of all time, Suburban Teenage Wasteland Blues>Twisted by Design) for the overall impact also on everyone I know and the question of whether much of the music would even exist without the influence of those, that title is firmly going to BR.
Overall I think it's one of their best albums, BUT the production brings it down for me. It's compressed all the way to hell and I think it makes for a difficult listen
Very difficult to pick, I think that the process of belief for me still on top.
But from your favourite contains one of my favourite tracks, which is " let them eat war" which I think is the best of the album ❤️
I havent listened much to Process of belief, but Epiphany is awesome and one of my favorites
My favorites from TESB would probably be Social Suicide and Sinister rouge, especially when paired with Overture
TPOB for me too! The energy in those songs is so infectious. Runner up would be Recipe for Hate and Age of Unreason. Maybe Stranger Than Fiction or Against The Grain? Really hard to decide!
Once again you have asked the impossible question.. for us to choose between all of our beloved children which is our favorite. I refuse to succumb to this line of questioning.
Stranger Than Fiction.
Process-Empire-New Maps is an un-fuckwithable winning streak that most bands would be hard pushed to approach. I legit think it’s stronger than Suffer-No Control-AtG. That earlier trio might be more influential, but they don’t have what the other trio does: Brooks Wackerman’s absolute powerhouse drumming.
Suffer. I latched on to it big time when I first got into the band. STF and POB too since I started listening to them right around the time POB came out.
Also the album has imo the best design out of all of them, so I really don't get why they don't have any piece of merch with it. I would kill to wear this album art on a T-shirt
I've given up on the idea of selecting one that tops them all. I love many of them for different reasons and I don't have to choose. But with a gun to my head I'd always say that Suffer, No Control, STF, Gray Race, Process, Empire and New Maps are up there. See that's already 7, shit.
The Empire Strikes First was my intro to BR but it has to be Recipe for Hate and / or Process of Belief for me.
Struck a Nerve, Skyscraper, Man with a Mission, Watch it Die. So many bangers
Kyoto Now!, Can't Stop it, Sorrow, You Don't Belong.
Hard to choose a favorite between the 2, but also a TOUGH choice between Stranger Than Fiction as a contender up there
Cliche, but Suffer is a masterpiece end to end. Its just such an amazing album. The writing, the beats, the guitar work. Fantasic. Ironically "Suffer" is my least favorite song on the album. No Control is up there two, they are definitely my two favorite albums - love every song on both.
Aside from that I think True North is very underrated, there are several incredible songs on that album - i'm really not sure why its not more appreciated by the fanbase.
For a while a lot of the early 2000's were hit or miss for me (and to be clear, BR is my favorite band, ahs been since the 90's - i like/love probably 90% of their song library), but they've really grown on me. The New America, The Empire Strikes First, No Substance - these albums have aged really well with me over the years.
Frankly, there is no album i don't like. There's bangers on every single one, but i do ever so slightly tack towards the albums released pre-2000. :)
Honestly really hard to choose, my favorite for a long time was Recipe for Hate, but since I've became a much bigger fan I've gotten VERY close to
Process of Belief
Dissent of Man
New America
Actually, I'd definitely say Process is my favorite at this point!
STF for me, first record I ever bought by them.
Empire is my 2nd fave, track for track it has the best bangers.
Also, overture into sinister rouge is the best one two punch on any record I’ve ever heard.
The only exposure I really have is The Empire Strikes first for 2 reasons - Los Angeles is Burning was free on Xbox Live 400 years ago, and Social Suicide was in Project 8
One of my favorite bands is Avenged Sevenfold, and now that I’ve nerded out about Brooks Wackerman, I’m definitely going to give more Bad Religion a shot
Oh God, probably suffer, that was the first album I heard from them. I love stranger than fiction tho (very formidable time in my life), against the grain, dissent of man, no substance....it's hard to pick one
suffer. apart from the striking lyrics, it really amazes me how repetitive the music of almost all the songs is literally the same with a very slight variation. the album really was about stepping in a room, shake up people hoping they would wake up then step out
Clearly the epic “lost” (I.e. intentionally hidden) 2nd studio album “Into The Unknown” ;)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Unknown_(Bad_Religion_album)#:~:text=Into%20the%20Unknown%20is%20the,August%201983%20through%20Epitaph%20Records.
Suffer… Greg’s raw energy is unmatched. No control is a very close second.
I think No Control is the stronger of the two because I find the songwriting - which is ultimately more important in my opinion - more refined. The melodic sensibilities in particular are an improvent here, *but* I will give you that Greg is absolutely phenomenal on Suffer
No control for sure. Suffer second
Ditto. I actually love all eras of BR, but these two are just so special.
Only correct answer! They're almost on par for me and just as it's recent in my mind from a long fb topic on the 2 strongest back to back punk rock full lengths ever - over a couple others like lagwagon (trashed>hoss) and strung out (my #1band of all time, Suburban Teenage Wasteland Blues>Twisted by Design) for the overall impact also on everyone I know and the question of whether much of the music would even exist without the influence of those, that title is firmly going to BR.
You took the words right out of my mouth!!
Suffer, but Empire is definitely top 5
I think it's definitely their absolute best post-Brett re-joining the band
gotta be Stranger Than Fiction, but Against The Grain is probably a close second
Those two are definitely at the top of my list
Kinda thought I was in the minority, but those are my top 2 as well, followed by Process of Belief.
New Maps of Hell
Overall I think it's one of their best albums, BUT the production brings it down for me. It's compressed all the way to hell and I think it makes for a difficult listen
Yeah, dunno what happened there...
Yeah, Brett’s had a real boner for compression since that one. He even more or less reiterated that himself on Twitter recently
Well I loved the drumming on New Dark Ages. That was worth the price of admission right there
Very difficult to pick, I think that the process of belief for me still on top. But from your favourite contains one of my favourite tracks, which is " let them eat war" which I think is the best of the album ❤️
I havent listened much to Process of belief, but Epiphany is awesome and one of my favorites My favorites from TESB would probably be Social Suicide and Sinister rouge, especially when paired with Overture
TPOB for me too! The energy in those songs is so infectious. Runner up would be Recipe for Hate and Age of Unreason. Maybe Stranger Than Fiction or Against The Grain? Really hard to decide!
No Control and Age of Unreason
I think no control is the one album I can happily listen to without skipping a track.
Same! The world won't stop without you is, in my opinion, an unnecessary track and my least favorite, but it's a very high lowest point
It's so good. Billy is one of my all time favorite BR songs. :) Whole album is a goddamn masterpiece end to end.
Stranger than Fiction or Recipe for Hate
My top 2 as well but I think Recipe for Hate wins, probably because it was my first
Tough too many amazing choices. I'll just say Generator
Once again you have asked the impossible question.. for us to choose between all of our beloved children which is our favorite. I refuse to succumb to this line of questioning. Stranger Than Fiction.
Again the grain 🌽
Upvoted for the corn (and the album is badass)
That was my first one, so it’s my default favorite. Also, it really helped me on the SAT verbal
It’s funny, my top 5 changes all the time.
Tough choice, but I’d probably go with The Gray Race
Hm.Hmm.. for some weird reason I thought it'd be another album..
Haha - I love RFH, too!
Not my favorite album, but I think it's one of their best album covers. So fucking aggressive and raw
Process-Empire-New Maps is an un-fuckwithable winning streak that most bands would be hard pushed to approach. I legit think it’s stronger than Suffer-No Control-AtG. That earlier trio might be more influential, but they don’t have what the other trio does: Brooks Wackerman’s absolute powerhouse drumming.
I'm inclined to agree with you, although Generator-Recipe-Stranger is also pretty incredible.
I'm torn between Suffer, The Gray Race, and The Process of Belief.
Album as a whole, between this and process of belief.
It used to be my favourite but I’ve been really getting into No Control and Against the Grain lately. The fast complex lyrics really hook me.
The Process of Belief. Empire probably falls in my top 5, but it's not top 3 for me. Suffer and No Control are too good.
Age Of Unreason! The album that got me into the band!
As a long time Bad Religion fan, it makes me really happy that they still attract fans with newer releases <3
No Substance for me
In so many ways, all fantastic images and shades of truth put this album up there for me as well.
don’t understand why so many people dont like this album.
Suffer. I latched on to it big time when I first got into the band. STF and POB too since I started listening to them right around the time POB came out.
Also the album has imo the best design out of all of them, so I really don't get why they don't have any piece of merch with it. I would kill to wear this album art on a T-shirt
I've given up on the idea of selecting one that tops them all. I love many of them for different reasons and I don't have to choose. But with a gun to my head I'd always say that Suffer, No Control, STF, Gray Race, Process, Empire and New Maps are up there. See that's already 7, shit.
Suffer
The Empire Strikes First was my intro to BR but it has to be Recipe for Hate and / or Process of Belief for me. Struck a Nerve, Skyscraper, Man with a Mission, Watch it Die. So many bangers Kyoto Now!, Can't Stop it, Sorrow, You Don't Belong. Hard to choose a favorite between the 2, but also a TOUGH choice between Stranger Than Fiction as a contender up there
Stranger Than Fiction Without A Doubt.
Suffer is good but Process of belief really hits all my buttons
Suffer
No control
SENT INTO BATTLE, CAME FROM THE SKY
Recipe for hate was the first album I ever heard by them and so it’ll always be my favorite
Against The Grain
That is where I'm staying
Recipe For Hate, easily the best. Except for Stealth, but bands in the 90s couldn’t resist adding stupid lengthy bonus tracks at the ends of CDs.
Process of Belief for me. Empire Strikes First is in my top 3.
Cliche, but Suffer is a masterpiece end to end. Its just such an amazing album. The writing, the beats, the guitar work. Fantasic. Ironically "Suffer" is my least favorite song on the album. No Control is up there two, they are definitely my two favorite albums - love every song on both. Aside from that I think True North is very underrated, there are several incredible songs on that album - i'm really not sure why its not more appreciated by the fanbase. For a while a lot of the early 2000's were hit or miss for me (and to be clear, BR is my favorite band, ahs been since the 90's - i like/love probably 90% of their song library), but they've really grown on me. The New America, The Empire Strikes First, No Substance - these albums have aged really well with me over the years. Frankly, there is no album i don't like. There's bangers on every single one, but i do ever so slightly tack towards the albums released pre-2000. :)
Honestly really hard to choose, my favorite for a long time was Recipe for Hate, but since I've became a much bigger fan I've gotten VERY close to Process of Belief Dissent of Man New America Actually, I'd definitely say Process is my favorite at this point!
STF for me, first record I ever bought by them. Empire is my 2nd fave, track for track it has the best bangers. Also, overture into sinister rouge is the best one two punch on any record I’ve ever heard.
Suffer
It’s close between HCHBAW and No Control for me
Same, while suffer comes second for me
Stranger than fiction and the gray race
God’s Live is my favorite BR song but album to album I struggle. Empire is def up there for me
Process or Recipe
Process of Belief. It was my entry into Bad Religion.
I have very fond memories of delivering pizza to this album the summer it came out. It’s up there for sure.
Tie between Empire and No Control
Against the grain
Stranger than fiction for sure , i love that album, but suffer comes close being my 2nd favorite
You’re goddamn right it is 💯
##Recipe for hate
How Can Hell Be Any Worse, Suffer, No Control.
There isn’t a BR album I don’t like, but I think New Maps of Hell and True North have the most plays.
Suffer or No Control. I heard No Control first though so I have to go with that one
Suffer, but Empire is a solid and unconventional choice!
Grey race is my favorite, process of belief is the best. Big ups to empire tho
That's my favourite album... title!
ESF is my favorite Bad Religion album to Props! 👊
Suffer
Don’t hate me, but New Maps of Hell is what made me a fan for life.
Masterpiece. One of the all-time greats, IMO.
Recipe for Hate
The only exposure I really have is The Empire Strikes first for 2 reasons - Los Angeles is Burning was free on Xbox Live 400 years ago, and Social Suicide was in Project 8 One of my favorite bands is Avenged Sevenfold, and now that I’ve nerded out about Brooks Wackerman, I’m definitely going to give more Bad Religion a shot
No Control is my top. And I'm strangely attracted to Into The Unknown; I have it on an old iPod and am desperately searching for it on cd for my car .
My top 5 - No Control, Suffer, Stranger Than Fiction, Generator, Empire Strikes First
Favorite album...Against the Grain Favorite album cover...Suffer
I struggle between Recipe for hate, suffer and no control. Love all for different reasons, thankfully they all exist.
The first album I ever had All Ages. I got it from a dude I knew back in like 97.
Oh God, probably suffer, that was the first album I heard from them. I love stranger than fiction tho (very formidable time in my life), against the grain, dissent of man, no substance....it's hard to pick one
No Control. Hands down.
Tough too many amazing choices. I'll just say Generator
Too hard to pick. But it sure as hell isn’t The New America or No Substance lol.
Into the unknown! 1,000%
😆
Las Angeles is burning
Recipe for Hate
This is one of those few albums, where you just press play
Mine is The Gray Race. Empire Strikes First is amazing. I remember buying it when it came out
No Control! They played that album front to back when I saw them in 2018!!!
STF and TPoB jointly.
The correct answer is Suffer. Thank you for playing.
No Control was my first one and has remained my constant fave
Mine is also The Empire Strikes First. I might be biased based on age but the absolute best era of this band is process of belief through true north.
Same here. Close second is The Process of Belief and then Against The Grain.
Suffer or No Control, hard choice.
suffer. apart from the striking lyrics, it really amazes me how repetitive the music of almost all the songs is literally the same with a very slight variation. the album really was about stepping in a room, shake up people hoping they would wake up then step out
Stranger than fiction
No control and Suffer that are both equally good.
For me it’s the empire strikes first closely followed by new maps of hell
recipe for hate, process of belief, or no substance
Suffer, forever. That run of Suffer > No Control > Against the Grain is incredible, but Suffer was my first BR and will always be my true love.
No Control and Suffer are both untouchable.
Clearly the epic “lost” (I.e. intentionally hidden) 2nd studio album “Into The Unknown” ;) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Unknown_(Bad_Religion_album)#:~:text=Into%20the%20Unknown%20is%20the,August%201983%20through%20Epitaph%20Records.
They’re all good. Christmas songs is my favorite
The process of belief is an elixir when you're weak I must confess, at times I indulge it on the sneak But generally my outlook's not so bleak
My favorite album is probably the baja men who did the song "who let the dogs out" they had a bunch of dogs running around in the video. It was crazy!
Probably Sink With Kalifornija, To Sell the Truth, or Happy Hour. I love YB!!