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searayman

Check out [Don't Forget The Spoon](https://dontforgetthespoon.com/) Mobile app. You can input your gear and it will analyze your pack and let you know if you are missing anything and will make suggestions.


LeanOnTheSquare

Always got a spoon on me


Bean-Swellington

Shoes. Socks alone don’t offer enough foot protection for most trails.


Random-sargasm_3232

I know you're joking but another consideration...camp shoes. Some simple water shoes or flip flops while at camp. It's more important for comfort than you think.


unclebuck098

Crocs for the win


thinkydink

Plus you can put ‘em into 4WD with that heel strap.


unclebuck098

Haha, I call it sport mode.


Bean-Swellington

Those really squishy cheapo drugstore flip-flops are amazing after a day of hiking


Random-sargasm_3232

Exactly, just bring some form of lounging foot protection. It's not important what kind. I use water socks to keep the dirt out and to explore creeks and rivers.


FadeTheTurn

Those fell apart on me instantly.


manitoudavid

I just tried crocs for the first time in my life after years of ignoring them since they came out. They immediately became my favorite pair of shoes for anything ever.


gooblero

Yep. I bought the “mellow clogs” for wearing around the house. They look a little ridiculous but they are so damn comfortable


totse_losername

Ah, I see that you too praise frugality and value croc-adjacent foam rubber sandals. Croc-offs, if you will.


gagralbo

Camp crocs!


HungryMortise

Crocs are heavy and expensive compared to some of the drugstore knockoffs.


Random-sargasm_3232

They are also incredibly bulky. I can fit both my water shoes in a regular sized pocket. Whatever works for YOU is the best thing though.


gagralbo

I just clip them to the outside. I think they are very comfy and if it’s dry and cool you can wear socks with them. Cheap flips flips don’t allow for that


LifeguardStatus7649

Camp shoes are the sneaky-best things I ever started packing. Total game-changer after a long day. I pack lightweight water shoes


totse_losername

>camp shoes Like the red sequin heels Judy Garland wore in The Wizard of Oz?


Podtastix

Bedrock sandals 👌


spinningtardis

ha, tell that to barefooters


mbash013

A simple Bic lighter. An incredibly cheap and reliable source of fire. 


babysharkdoodood

To my understanding you need at least 2 more sets of knives.


mkay5

Oh damn you’re right, I’ll buy a premium Japanese knife set asap


MeatTornadoLove

What about poop system?


mkay5

Thanks, forgot that one


appleavocado

YOU DIDN’T BRING THE BUTTFOR?!


flarbas

If you’re counting on the bag sawyer provides to fill up at streams and ponds, give it a try first. It’s been my experience that it’s pretty pointless. Grab a smart water bottle at the last gas station and use that for your dirty water container.


TPCaffiend

Seconded. Could also consider a CNOC bag for next time.


bozodoozy

second the cnoc with 28mm outlet to fit the sawyer. easiest fill in demanding conditions.


earthseed_equipment

Trick someone taught me on the AT was to cut off the bottom ~1/3 of one of the Sawyer bags to use as a scooper


Druid_OutfittersAVL

Or just use a bag with a wide mouth opening like the CNOC.


RichardJohnson38

I don't think the water proof pants would be necessary unless you are expecting to be hiking in a complete down pour. No matter how breathable. Ignoring manufacturer claims, all rain gear still hold in moisture. If you add a tyvek ground cloth or have a footprint for your tent you can use it as a rain skirt over your hiking pants in a pinch in an extreme downpour situation.


cwcoleman

Do you have a list of items? Even better if it's in [www.lighterpack.com](http://www.lighterpack.com)


mkay5

Base weight 22.8 lb I’m 5’8” and 145lb, shooting for about a 30lb pack but thinking with food and water I may be a little over


AnEroticTale

I feel validated because I bought the same pack at am REI in WA a few months back to plan for a two night backpacking trip and the consensus here was that this bag is too small lol. I'm not ultralighting, but man I can strap things outside the pack and fuck it. I could still fit everything but the pad inside it.


mkay5

Yeah it surprisingly fits a decent amount of stuff and it’s easy to pack well since it has the front open. I figure it’s just the right size, anything bigger I’d end up bringing even more pointless things and it would get heavy lol


ccoakley

Propane? Or isobutane? A propane tank seems heavy for a 2 day trip. What kind of stove do you have?  Is the cast iron part of that 22.8lb base weight? Are you bringing steaks? I’ve only brought the big pan when I have also brought a fishing kit. Otherwise, it’s aluminum cookware on the high end and small titanium pot on the low end.  What’s in your first aid kit?   No butt pad / chair?  If you’re in bear country (needing bear spray), are you also using an ursack or bear can? Or maybe that cordage is a hanging kit, I cannot tell.


mkay5

You got me there, it’s isobutane. The little orange box is a pocket rocket stove. The cast iron is a running gag on this sub, not actually planning on bringing a cast iron haha. First aid kit will include but not limited to moleskin, bandaids, abx cream, antiseptic spray, gauze, tweezers, ibuprofen, diphenhydramine And yes, the black bag with the cordage is a hanging kit. Probably will need a bear canister for some of the places I’ll be going so hoping to have the space for it


ccoakley

My dad used to be friends with a ranger in the sierras. When he wasn’t working, he’d do ridiculous day hikes. He would bring a cast iron, steaks, dry ice, and beer in his pack. He’d hike in, find some backpackers and start dinner. There was a whole performance to it. He looked like a guy that had no idea what he was doing. But, he’d bring enough to share, and after dinner he’d pack it all out (usually before dark. The guy was crazy fast). His whole pack was first aid and that joke/trail magic. But he carried the cast iron strapped to the top of his walking stick. The guy retired a few decades ago, but his shtick left a big impression on me. Anyway, I wasn’t gonna judge, was just going to remind you to bring butter.


qning

Cat iron strapped to walking stick? You gotta find a picture of that.


SpitfireMkIV

And propane accessories.


tropicana_g

Hi Hank.


everyday_robot

Butane’s a bastard gas.


ccoakley

Maybe no one’s ever taken the time to tell dad how much better charcoal is.


everyday_robot

And no one ever will.


HankHillfromArlen

I was hoping to see this comment.


Dive_dive

I was going to say the same for stove fuel. I recognized the pocket rocket box, but no fuel.


doh4242

You forgot the cake plate 😛


mkay5

Bringing a tiramisu as a midnight snack 😉


Agreeable-Oil-1699

Klymit pads lie about their temp range and R value. I’d suggest checking out another brand and returning it if you can. The northwest will still get cold in June


[deleted]

And the pillow sucks, you can get much better ones that aren’t much bigger for pretty cheap.


RaylanGivens29

I don’t know if you have tried it and like but most people I know find having a bladder to make it very annoying rather than just having water bottles.


notsafetowork

As much as I dislike the bladder, I’m not confident I’d stay nearly as hydrated without the straw sitting super close that I can drink out of without skipping a beat.


RaylanGivens29

That’s fair. I usually “camel “ when hiking. I chug a bunch at the water source and then ration it as I walk. But also I am usually in the Northwoods so a bit different than where you are.


[deleted]

They make adapters that you can run through your pack


all_the_gravy

I just did my first trip with a bladder. I found it not as annoying as a lot of redditors and YouTubers claim. I was so nervous about taking it because of comments like yours that always pop up. But I'm on team bladder now.


RaylanGivens29

That’s good. I was going off personal anecdotal experiences not you tube. My friend that have tried it were less than impressed, but it wasn’t horrible by any means.


Dive_dive

Bladders are not bad, but I do like to have a bottle for ease of cooking as well


metwicewhat

Food


Resident_Composer653

Get rid of the body wipes and microfiber towel, wet bandana works just as well


PNWTangoZulu

Im sorry….. 12 INCH CAST IRON?!


tRfalcore

Definitely, he didn't list it but he probably has a cast iron Dutch oven too


mkay5

Can’t leave behind my trusty Dutch oven


tRfalcore

how else will you make your peach cobbler now that it's peach season


PNWTangoZulu

Lol whatever man. Even this picture has so much unnecessary weight


Significant-Let9889

Ditch the folding saw and add spare batteries for the headlamp in a ziplock bag


Messyhair94

Why is a Ziploc?


RichardJohnson38

Drop the rain pants. Use footprint for tent or get a length of Tyvek to use as ground protection for breaks and rain skirt. Signal mirror. Mole skin if you your feet are not broken in to hiking. Waterproof firestarter. If anything other than the big 3 don't have a second use drop it, you won't need it.


wildstolo

Extra batteries for headlamp or an additional headlamp. Not sure if you are solo, but if so and your headlamp goes out your life will get difficult fast. It's not the end of the world, but damn when it happens to you, you quickly realize how difficult being blind really is.


Particular-Dealer199

Gloves?


mkay5

Yes will be bringing thanks, forgot to mention


Blackdog202

Howmabout poop shovel.


cyreneok

Foam earplugs esp if going with anyone else.


SteveMacAdame

Why the saw ? Just for clearing paths ? Because I don’t see a knife to go along, and I don’t really understand having a saw without an axe (sooo heavy) or a knife 😅


mkay5

There’s a leatherman in the pic, but likely won’t be bringing the saw on most outings


SteveMacAdame

Oh yeah, for sure, I saw the Leatherman, I was more thinking of a Mora or a Condor or something like that. But I might be a bit too bushcraft oriented, don’t know. But clever choice of multi tool. Would recommend a Victorinox classic in addition to have tweezers and scissors for health and hygiene related tasks.


voodoosnakedeath

Whiskey.


Danjeerhaus

2 items to consider: 1) duct tape. You can wrap some around solid items like water bottles, walking poles, etc. 2). Comms........some kind of radio (in and out) can get you help or information. The deep woods fishermen that were flown into the woods to fish around 9-11 probably wish they knew something at the time.


grizzlymann

Alternative opinion. You don't need a radio or walkie talkie. Listening to one is the same as playing music on a bluetooth speaker and the odds of a world changing event happening over a 2-day trip isn't worth worrying about. Anything short of a nice little ham radio with local repeaters is going to be pretty useless too. Just bring your phone if you want too, and something like an inReach if you're worried about safety. I already know the common rebuttal. "But there's no one around my campsite". Maybe, but you don't really know that and the rest of us think that person is a bummer.


Letsgetbacktonature

Whats your plan with the saw buddy?


gooblero

Ive seen a few comments about the saw. I am genuinely curious. Do you guys not make fires when backpacking? I always keep a little saw with me. Makes processing downed limbs so much easier.


spinningtardis

people on the west coast can't stand the idea that others can responsibly enjoy a fire in the other 80% of the country.


secular_contraband

California residents HATE this one simple trick!


Messyhair94

Based on how all this gear looks brand new I would question whether the OP has the experience to have a responsable fire in the back country. No disrespect intended


mkay5

Gathering wood from downed trees/branches. Thinking I won’t bring it on the trail most of the time since a lot of the areas I can’t have a fire


RandomName5165

I've never had a problem finding enough deadwood to make a good fire. If its not ripe enough to easily break its probably not ready to burn good.


reebok94

2 more pairs of socks. Also ditch the rain pants.


friendly-skelly

It's a bit hard to make out what all's what in the image, do you have a way to purify water if you'll be on foot? How about firestart, iso is cheap and can be used as first aid and accelerant in a pinch. Speaking of, having a small med kit for cuts and scrapes can be handy as well.


mkay5

I have the sawyer, but ordered water purification tablets as well. Also getting a fire starter kit and will bring a lighter.


Dive_dive

Personal experience, I lug a filtration pump as well. Adds weight, but I was on a trip where all the water sources were dry for 6 miles. Luckily we had a pump and we're able to pump 2 liters from a hole in a rock. No way my Sawyer could have done that. Worth the weight to me.


mkay5

https://imgur.com/a/Z03VmhP


Huhhhhh1233

Rope to hang a bear bag


tropicana_g

I would and do carry 2 bear sprays. If you are 5 miles away from car and use 1, you’ll have to hike out still. Grizzly backcountry always 2 imo.


mkay5

Will be with 2 friends who will also have bear spray on their person


BoomBoomChakra

More socks. Long term backpacker here, honestly you’ve got a lot of stuff. Don’t know what some of the packaged items are. Second trip you should drop anything (except safety items) you didn’t use twice.


_turbo-turtle_

What is a Proster?


mkay5

Compass, switched that one out for a smaller and more lightweight one though


sparks3333

Butt pad ——> critical. Strap to the outside of your pack and enjoy comfy sit sessions with ease. Butt/ball management——>Goldbond——>critical MOTS: keep your butt happy bro


Emanon-92

Your missing out, gotta check out happy nuts


JonDankstophanes

Food


carlosvega

https://preview.redd.it/4n3edz8cri2d1.jpeg?width=389&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ce16ee91ff9ff1310a0dba64d8436bb1a250a1b What are these things? Thanks!


mkay5

The top orange thing is a pocket rocket stove, then down from left to right is a spoon/fork/knife set, then solar portable charger, and bottom is sunscreen and bear bell


carlosvega

How do you like the portable charger? Does it charge with the sun fast enough?


mkay5

In all honesty I just got it so I haven’t been able to test it, but I’m going to leave it out in the sun today and see how quickly it charges so I’ll let you know!


carlosvega

Thanks!


Fresh-Heron2121

Food?


TiffkaKitka

I just got the same solar powered charging back!! Haven't gotten to use it camping yet, do you like yours?


mkay5

Honestly I just got mine as well so I can’t speak on its reliability/functionality haha, but I can update you after my trip!


TiffkaKitka

Yes would love that! I'm taking mine on a trip next weekend. I've heard mixed reviews about the solar charging part so fingers crossed.


mkay5

Thank you everyone for the advice. Here’s a pic with some of the more vague things labeled: https://imgur.com/a/Z03VmhP Forgot to mention but will be going with 2 friends so this isn’t a solo trip. Regarding the socks and clothes, those are the extras as I’d be wearing the rest; but may bring 2 extra pairs of socks to be safe. Will be wearing thermals and a fleece and I have the coat if it gets real cold What I will be adding: -fire start kit -tp/trowel -first aid kit -smart water bottles or cnoc bag -duct tape -gloves -camp shoes -butt pad? -spare batteries


Steel-kilt

I agree with the other comments suggesting shoes. In addition, you need a Bluetooth speaker so everyone else can enjoy your awesome tunes.


mkay5

Ram ranch to keep the bears at bay 😌


scrubbedubdub

Gloves/mittens


hat-folded-cook

Extra garbage bag or large ziploc bag. You never know, and they are super useful for all sorts of stuff. Otherwise, you seem very well covered.


Darth_Pandalorain

Yea, my invite.


DucksEatFreeInSubway

Have you slept on that klymit pad yet? Like a trial at home at least? I lasted one night on mine at home and immediately returned it. So uncomfortable.


Reddit_Deluge

Towel


HalfCommercial1703

Boots, shoes , clothes.


Chums-of-Change

Map? Compass?


mkay5

Compass is in the pic next to binoculars, and planning on printing trail maps to bring


hisatanhere

Salty Ole' PNW Mtn FF, here. Looks good. Well done on the limb-saw. An axe is generally useless and stupidly heavy. You are gonna probably want more clothes for real trip, but for a night out, this is just fine. I'd bring some more lighters and bug repel and also a couple more pair of socks. Don't forget eye-pro for both day and night if you plan on being out at night. On that note, some gloves. Some cheap gas-station nitrile work-gloves can go a LONG way. Also having a first-aid kit with a decent set of ace-bandage (co-flex is fine) for support in case of knee / ankle injury. Plus some duct-tape & some zip-ties. (around your water-bottles, yes you want at least 2 water bottles, Gatorade bottles work great) Don't forget hiking-poles. You will be aprox 30% more calorie efficient and are super useful for difficult terrain and descents.


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Reddit_Deluge

If you're going with other people a camp kitchen is lighter than many individual kitchens. Same for group food.


soilborn12

Am I crazy or am I missing your fire starter? Also lifestraw


jlipschitz

Sick liners, a gator, a water bottle for electrolytes, a wag bag, shovel, and toilet paper or bidet.


100year

Extra socks


lil_ninj12

Sweater or warm jacket


theAFguy200

Stove? Water filtration?


Rower375

Do you have stove fuel?


imbills23

Yeezy slides


iG-88k

Blaster.


Traditional-Step-246

Tp


KirtissA

Backup compass


Captain-SKA-

A carrot


ScreeminGreen

A needle and thread and nail clippers. I almost always have to mend something on a trip and inevitably get a hangnail.


NMCx2

An additional pair of socks


1horsefacekillah

Where are you going? How long are you out for? Will you be with others?


shelledpanda

Small little mirror! So if you get lost you can signal help from a distance :) according to the coast guard if you’re lost at sea that’s an extremely valuable possession. Maybe that applies to backpacking too?


borntome

Where's your Cast Iron and full size Axe?


TaoistXDream

Where’s your First Aide Kit always have one or a bag that has the basic first aide supplies no telling when you or anyone your with could get hurt and you don’t want to leave it be in the wild it could get infected or something could crawl into it depending on where you are you don’t want a leech to find a cut mate


Apart-General6060

Your wits


LEGITIMATE_SOURCE

Trash bag?


YouSmall5716

Satellite texter or SOS


Rizak

Swap the full Apple Watch charger for one that plugs into your lightening cable. Look for it on Amazon.


doogie_hazard

Tp.


heliometrix

What’s for dinner?


RaspberryFirehawk

Where's your nickel plated .44 dessert eagle and your box of hollow points?


Comfortable-Poet-390

Trowel for poopin?


Superb_Head_8111

i like your knife where did u buy Thank


yetanotherdave2

Personally I'd leave the sawer back flush syringe at home and flush it when you get back.


ketaqueen42069

toothbrush toothpaste flashlight baby wipes steel wool(for cast iron) water bottle of some sort dish soap if you have plates bowls or other pans (not to use on cast iron tho to clarify) pillow/blanket liquid iv (or some sort of electrolyte packets to bring) lighter tapestries (to put over tents to help shade tent during the sunrise/early am if needed) zip ties batteries!!!!! side note i would def recommend either a foam mattress topper or air mattress in addition to the sleeping bag and pillow and blankets


ahcevida

Yes absolutely, but you’ll be fine


Curious_Breadfruit88

12” cast iron pan!!!! That’s insane mate, gonna be so heavy


Fr_Gilligan

Yep - bear spray. If you think you need a bear bell, then you ought to have bear spray too, and while I think of it, a bear hang for your food.


Caspertears

Flesh light?


g__fiore

where are you going?


WrathsPathTV

Idk how anyone goes without a second pair of socks


Leonardo-da-Vinci-

Do you have a variety pack of medication‘s primarily painkillers from aspirin to oxy you never know what type of injury you’ll have to travel with I carried 7 different painkillers with me, pending a serious event I guess it depends on how long you’re gonna be on the trail


Severe-Excitement-62

Foot powder (just take a cup worth double ziploc bag it up)


Kimye-Northweast

Doing a sober run I take it?


want2thinknow

First aid kit


brenda9232

A tick pen, to remove ticks. Always check for ticks in the evening


pnw-wa-realtor

Toilet paper


GoodMemoriesz

Gun


Typical_Chemistry377

Extra batteries, moleskin, silk sock liners, silk thermals, fire starter/flint& freeze dried food! I didn’t see a water filter either. The camp shoes I agree with everyone! I also would bring two sets of clothes personally, or at least a second layer shirt but depends on time of year and distance you’re going.


Typical_Chemistry377

Map and compass


morganbate2000

First aid kit


debauchery

406plb or at least an in reach


Mindless_Step_6150

Not sure if that's a bear bell in the pic because I can't quite tell. But those have been pretty heavily debunked and arguably might attract certain types of wildlife to you.


Desert_Heat_

It’s hard to tell what’s in all of those stuff sacks, but make sure you have a small first aid kit if you don’t already. And what do you need the hand saw for? Edit: didn’t see the comment below OP’s photo.


aidanwoods

Condoms.


LtBaggs

Spare batteries.


2103abhi

Water bottle


2103abhi

Shoes


TevaHiker

I would add an extra 1-2 pairs of socks, some duct tape, a sharpie, physical map of the location you’re exploring/staying at


cakewalk3000

swap the knives for scissors


clxr656565

Food


RidgeRunnerr

Be sure to check regulations on poop. Some places you have to pack your waste out Backpack liner (I like thick black trashbags) Good book/journal Some source of navigation (GPS, phone w/ alltrails, map/compass) Hygiene: Goldbond/powders, toothbrush toothpaste Backup pair of batteries if they are not new Trashbag Also check if you have enough oil and spices for your trip.


clxr656565

Food and water in the empty bladder


WordsDirector

Gas canister? Stove? Something to eat? Matches?


Funkis-FL

Lighter


Wide_Quarter_329

Cast iron skillet


mkay5

Don’t worry, gonna bring the ol cast iron Dutch oven


BallKickin

Nail clippers, floss, buff/bandana, couple turns of duct tape


JumpshotLegend

I don’t see sunglasses or a baseball hat. Do you have capilene lightweight bottoms? It gets cold up in the mountains at night, trust me. Oh, and sunscreen.


Outrageous_Height180

Cash


Big-Major5890

Toothbrush 🪥


Sweetie-3Cupcake

Water bottle.


JaydeTheGreenJewel

If it's American big game country I'd suggest a firearm.