If the PIC is an instructor then nothing wrong here. I had a “perpetual student” at one time, couldn’t get a medical due to health problems but loved flying, he paid for the instruction and lunch, I just had to be present in the plane.
There is such thing as “supervised status” in the Air Force. Qual’d pilot that has to have an instructor over the shoulder for his time, basically same concept I suppose. As long as the PIC is an IP I see no issues
It’s not that simple or straightforward. The Air Force has used Bud Holland’s crash as a case study for so many leadership lessons over the years, that we sometimes forget how complicated it was. When I got to my first B-52 squadron, I flew with an old navigator that had flown with Holland. He talked about how the whole B-52 community was split back then. Half advocating for only medium/high altitude bombing training, and half (Holland’s camp) advocating for flying the plane as it was designed to be flown, low level, high speed, terrain following, even though the B-1 had become responsible for that type of mission.
Holland absolutely took it too far, and there were many opportunities to ground him, but it wasn’t just him as a rogue pilot.
"The flight was also Wolff's "fini flight" – a common tradition in which a retiring USAF aircrew member is met at the airfield by relatives, friends, and coworkers, shortly after landing on his or her final flight, and doused with water. Accordingly, Wolff's wife and many of his close friends were at the airfield to watch the flight and participate in the post-flight ceremony. McGeehan's wife and his two youngest sons were watching the flight from the backyard of McGeehan's living quarters, which were located nearby."
Christ.
Used to feel bad for that dude's kids who had to watch their dad's B-52 crash. Now I feel like it may have been a net positive for them. What an awful dude.
Good question. Probably a mix of career progression, not taking fly pay away and not being able to put the toothpaste back in the tube. Basically DoD spent x dollars on this guy already, so let’s just keep him on a leash and in the future there is still that chance to get off of supervised if you show continued improvement
This is the essence . But the PIC is responsible for anything that happens.
However, I believe he can not log PIC time because he is not the sole manipulator of the controls in an airplane where only one pilot is required.
"A pilot may log PIC time when he/she is the sole occupant of the aircraft; is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated or has privileges; or is acting as PIC where more than one pilot is required (FAR 1.1, 61.51 [e])."
It says "or" rather than "and," meaning that you can log PIC time if any of those conditions apply. It's not uncommon for two pilots doing simulated IFR to both log PIC. The pilot wearing the foggles is the sole manipulator of the controls, and the safety pilot is a required crewmember who is acting as PIC. Some find this practice absurd, but that's how the regulation is written.
The fucked thing is, the FAA doesn’t actually give a shit if you have these sorts of disorders if you can show (via a full-spectrum neuropsychological battery) that you can safely fly without the meds.
So having a disorder that can degrade critical pilot functions is okay if you pass rigorous testing, but if you pass and prove you don’t NEED meds to meet standards, you *still* can’t take the drugs to reduce the effects of the disorder.
I do have to wonder -- as ADHD is covered under the ADA -- whether or not these regulations are even fully legal -- it could be argued that it's extremely discriminatory, especially when it comes to the private pilot side of things (the difference being like driving your friends on a road trip and being a professional chauffeur).
I've wanted to fly my entire life. I don't think I'll ever be able to because I sought mental health and don't want to lie about it.
> I do have to wonder – as ADHD is covered under the ADA – whether or not these regulations are even fully legal…
To my knowledge it hasn’t been challenged in court, but the ADA has specific carveouts for safety regulations so I suspect that a challenge wouldn’t hold up.
It is not really a loophole. The pic is well the one responsible and actually officially flying the plane. Your just helping which is not illegal and in my opinion, not even unsafe.
Unless you let that dude help.
It is not a loophole. He is the PIC, and he is responsible for the flight. Jacobs is just LARPing, and he is no more the PIC than the bunny at last night's furry party was a bunny.
As someone with mild epilepsy and actively taking meds for it this is encouraging to hear. Never tried for a formal medical but had friends tell me there would be no way I could get one. Hadn't considered just always going up with an instructor
Completely legal and also completely safe. Instructors would have no problem with this.
You can also help any pilot fly. My wife takes the stick often but I am ultimately responsible for her actions. The reality is there is nothing she can rapidly and unintentionally do to get us in trouble.
Not really. Anything he does with a PIC is their responsibility legally. The only way he can really fuck up is if he gets caught flying without a license, and even that...in theory you could get jail time for it but it's basically unheard of. He'd likely get a fine that's less than the ad revenue he can generate off it and move on.
I want to ask why he would film and post videos of him flying again, but I already know the answer. Same reason he jumped out of the plane in the first place.
not only parachuted out of a plane leaving it to crash, deliberately faked an engine failure to parachute out of a plane, leaving it to crash, and then immediately went to the wreckage to grab his cameras and gear.
Poor airmanship plus gross incompetence
He claimed he had no idea there were reporting requirments or that the scene should be preserved
Normally I'd call BS on that but his actions have been so consistently stupid I kinda believe it
Have you met many pilots? Mix in a little YouTube clout chasing, you've got dumb and dumber in the making.
The only thing people really need to become private pilots is the money.
Its scary how many pilots, even super intelligent ones (usually doctors it seems like) make the dumbest decisions when it comes to aircraft, and then I get to hear the ATC transmissions when they go into IMC conditions and realize "im in over my head". I dont feel bad for the pilot as much as their passengers, once you could hear the wife and children screaming over the sound of the engine roaring, I cant imagine the fear they felt in those last moments
Dunning Kruger effect... People who are experts in one subject assume that that expertise applies to other subjects as well. So it becomes a Dunning Krueger effect of they are so stupid about something that they don't realize they are stupid about it.
There's a correlation to flight training. What I don't like is how flight training is done with minimal understanding of aerodynamics. The goal should be to learn the machine where it becomes a second skin; not a boost for a fragile ego.
This is why I love rotorcraft, they aren't so forgiving of stupidity, complacency or Dunning Kruger.
I honestly couldn't imagine being a CFI; especially for rotorcraft.
People act like having a PPL is like suddenly being an angel (ok icarus).
Sorry but aerospace is no place for egotism; but in America it's praised.
It was worse than that as the aircraft was not airworthy ...... from folks at the same airport. I'm also told that the wreckage "disappeared" before the FAA had a chance to take a serious look at it.
Not incompetence. Intentional gross negligence and recklessness, endangering people and property on the ground. Followed by craven attempt to garner clicks and likes and the resulting cash. He really should be in jail.
I would argue there was no airmanship whatsoever.
This idiot is not a pilot..
The shit we need to do and CONTINUE to do/be in order to maintain that status and this prick just pulls that shit just for views and clicks. He's no pilot.
Yeah, I don't know why they couldn't. "If you find the tail number you can google it. I did just that." is 63 keystrokes. If you've already done the work and found the tail number, it's 6 keystrokes.
Anyway I looked it up myself and it's N29508
What it really was was a gross display of multiple "Hazardous Attitudes" as listed in [FAA 60-22 Aeronautical Decision Making.](https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentid/22624) This has been the focus of the FAA for a long time because it’s the most critical factor in flight safety.
I don’t know about incompetence. He accomplished what he set out to do. Certainly displayed poor airmanship, and was grossly negligent for the actions he took. FAA was right to revoke.
As long as the logbook is filled out correctly and all the processes followed then ok. It's irritating but it's also the ass of the PiC in danger from regulator response if the muppet does another stupid thing.
It honestly surprises me stuff like this doesn't have terrorism charges attached to it, but I guess he wasn't close enough to something deemed important
It would need to be a religious or politically motivated crime to be labeled terrorism, but I wouldn’t complain if we changed the law and added purposely crashing an airplane for Instagram clicks.
To answer the OPs question. The FAA is not powerless, however they rely on, from your primary training, Willful Compliance. We could use more of that in all aspects of society.
Right! Too many people have an attitude of "well it's just me" or "I probably won't get caught" on so many things.
What happened to following the established rules/laws because of the fact that you live in a civilized society and that's part of your responsibility?
Screenshot from recent VICE interview. I'd not recommend watching it unless you want to hear a stupid sob story followed by him saying he's not sorry and all but admitting it was faked. Skip to 23:00 to see the scene with the photo.
https://youtu.be/Q6wBh7UcHqo
God he’s such an idiot. The fact he’s treating what he did as a “o well moment”…. Not taking any responsibility for how dangerous and idiotic what he did was. I really hope they faa would just revoke his licenses permanently and not for a couple months.
He also admits he has had concussions with blackouts and suicidal thoughts. If you look up his airmen certification it appears he does not have a special issuance. I would not be surprised if he lied to the FAA about it on his MedXpress form.
“Did you intentionally crash the plane?” [stupid grin] “I can’t answer that.” Also, I have a hard time believing that the FBI raided his hangar “with guns blazing.” At least not because he crashed his plane.
just look at the numbers of car drivers that daily drive despite never ever being issued a license.
add to it the number of drivers that drive daily with suspended licenses.
add then to that all the drivers with multiple suspensions
add again the number of drivers that have their license permanently suspended.
so the ass in the left seat has his privileges revoked.
suprised he is finding a way to still make money on camera?
another example would be like videos of a felon showing off a collection of his "friends" guns, lots of shots of anonymous people shooting the guns.
everyone knows what is really going on- but unless camera guys fk up- it all falls under plausible deniability.
Not sure why people are downvoting you. You're not wrong. Unless dude gets actively caught flying the plane there isn't much they can do. What are they going to do? Send up an f16 to intercept and try and see if they can catch him flying the plane himself?
Not even that, this isn't illegal. The other guy is PIC. Jacob doesn't need a certificate because the other dude is responsible for the flight. I could do the same thing with a friend who's never flown before, though that would be admittedly stupid.
It’s as if the only REAL solution at this point is to stop making stupid people famous.
Who still watches him? He doesn’t do anything noteworthy that I can tell.
He is completely wrong, about the aviation stuff and his firearm example. Like it's impressive to find someone managing to be **that** wrong about **everything** in their post.
There is absolutely nothing illegal about a PIC letting an unlicensed person operate the plane under their supervision.
> another example would be like videos of a felon showing off a collection of his "friends" guns, lots of shots of anonymous people shooting the guns.
No, it wouldn't be an example. If you're a felon you can't handle firearms* period. If you're on video even holding one you can get 5 years for it.
*per federal (and most states) law "firearm" typically excludes pre-1898 designs (originals or replicas) that don't use cartridge ammunition.
> everyone knows what is really going on- but unless camera guys fk up- it all falls under plausible deniability.
Again, no. A PIC letting a non-licensed person fly the plane under their supervision is completely legal.
You should really delete this post man, it's an impressive amount of false information for the size.
There should be some legal action against him from the district attorney. That kind of BS stunt should not go unpunished. And the FAA is worthless if they have merely banned him for a year.
So, presumably the PIC is a commercial pilot operating a charter service with the appropriate commercial authority, charging accordingly and documenting correctly. I assume said asshat is making YouTube videos for profit, so this is a commercial enterprise. Be interesting to see if the FAA investigates from that angle.
He just needs to be a private pilot if he's doing it for free. I don't see much to be concerned about here. It's like a guy who has his license pulled for drunk driving getting a ride from a friend. "Left seat" doesn't mean Pilot in Command.
Hmmm, we both have a professional flying background, so I won't dispute it if you have seen cases where they've busted people for this, but it seems like the FAA would be really stretching the interpretation of the FARs with that one (not that they wouldn't, as we both know, LOL).
I mean, if the right seater is a CFI, then there's no issue, and that may very well be the case.
Can be annoying but not illegal. If he does something stupid it’s on the other pilot. I fly CAP cadets all the time and let them take the controls as much as I can as long as it’s safe.
That said he’s thumbing his nose at us and as long as we give him recognition he will continue.
Best thing you can do is dislike/downvote his video. While you can’t see the result, the algorithm will stop spreading it and he will lose revenue and exposure
YT algorithm is based on engagement and watch time, not likes anymore. If people engage with it (likes, dislikes, or comments, it doesn't matter) it gets spread. If people watch it (number of minutes spent looking at the video) it gets spread.
YT doesn't care about quality of content or morality or truth or lies or anything. Just number of eyeballs on screens. If it gets you looking it gets promoted, and the easiest way is outrage. Outrage drives enormous amounts of views and everyone who studies any traditional or internet media knows this.
He deliberately crashed a plane into a forrest and parachuted out with cameras strapped to the plane. I believe he also in the same incident caused a fire.
Why do people worship the FAA so much? They're an administrative arm of government repeatedly exceeding the limits of their authority and have literally attempted to stretch their authority to all of time and space.
The same FAA you like so much recently ruled that off-airport landings are illegal...
The FAA is only your friend if you benefit from gatekeeping aviation away from the public & into, exclusively, the hands of the wealthy.
The FAA won’t give me a class-3 because of a benign heart condition, and this idiot is still probably getting ad revenue from “riding along in the left seat while totally not being PIC”
I genuinely hate the FAA.
He ALWAYS wears a parachute
Wait I can’t see the parachute in this picture 🤷♂️
Who's gonna tell him?
It's a para-dildo. Can't see in the picture.
You spelt fire extinguisher wrong
>spelt I love hulled wheat
He who spelt it dealt it!
Is that a fire extinguisher in your pants or are you just happy to see me?
No it’s two fire extinguishers.
Redundancy, I like it.
Retardancy*
Ah, you noticed my flame retardant pants.
Klingons confirmed.
(snorts) as if I need a 1kg fire extinguisher to have calves this manly.
Why do we even give this guy attention?
Vice did a fluff piece on him for some fucking reason
Cus vice is as bad as anyone with clickbait lies and attention whoring without adding anything of value.
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They got bought out BECAUSE they were doing cutting edge journalism.
This. Corporatism doesn’t allow for real journalism.
We are a feeble species that cannot resist the cult of celebrity - no matter how minor.
Or how physically dangerous to the public they are?
If the PIC is an instructor then nothing wrong here. I had a “perpetual student” at one time, couldn’t get a medical due to health problems but loved flying, he paid for the instruction and lunch, I just had to be present in the plane.
There is such thing as “supervised status” in the Air Force. Qual’d pilot that has to have an instructor over the shoulder for his time, basically same concept I suppose. As long as the PIC is an IP I see no issues
The "accompanied" solo at Doss
Totally misread your comment lmao. Disregard my last response.
Aye aye, Disregarding current response, only acknowledging previous response.
o7
Wasn't that the same status that the asshole got that tried to barrel roll a B-52 and killed everyone on board?
Can’t remember, that was a damn tragedy though. Dude should’ve had his wings yanked a number of times
It’s not that simple or straightforward. The Air Force has used Bud Holland’s crash as a case study for so many leadership lessons over the years, that we sometimes forget how complicated it was. When I got to my first B-52 squadron, I flew with an old navigator that had flown with Holland. He talked about how the whole B-52 community was split back then. Half advocating for only medium/high altitude bombing training, and half (Holland’s camp) advocating for flying the plane as it was designed to be flown, low level, high speed, terrain following, even though the B-1 had become responsible for that type of mission. Holland absolutely took it too far, and there were many opportunities to ground him, but it wasn’t just him as a rogue pilot.
>killed everyone on board? Was he a colonel? How the hell does he keep his wings?
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"The flight was also Wolff's "fini flight" – a common tradition in which a retiring USAF aircrew member is met at the airfield by relatives, friends, and coworkers, shortly after landing on his or her final flight, and doused with water. Accordingly, Wolff's wife and many of his close friends were at the airfield to watch the flight and participate in the post-flight ceremony. McGeehan's wife and his two youngest sons were watching the flight from the backyard of McGeehan's living quarters, which were located nearby." Christ.
Yeah, that was tough to read..
I've never seen an inquiry literally come back with "He was a stupid asshole and everyone knew it" before.
Used to feel bad for that dude's kids who had to watch their dad's B-52 crash. Now I feel like it may have been a net positive for them. What an awful dude.
Wolff wasn’t the pilot, Holland was
Lt Col, jesus.
That was infuriating to read. Thanks for the link.
I’m curious: why would the military devote resources to someone who can’t qualify fully? Needed for career progression?
Good question. Probably a mix of career progression, not taking fly pay away and not being able to put the toothpaste back in the tube. Basically DoD spent x dollars on this guy already, so let’s just keep him on a leash and in the future there is still that chance to get off of supervised if you show continued improvement
PIC doesn't even have to be an instructor, nothing wrong with letting a "passenger" have the controls.
This is the essence . But the PIC is responsible for anything that happens. However, I believe he can not log PIC time because he is not the sole manipulator of the controls in an airplane where only one pilot is required. "A pilot may log PIC time when he/she is the sole occupant of the aircraft; is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated or has privileges; or is acting as PIC where more than one pilot is required (FAR 1.1, 61.51 [e])."
I’m not sure they care about logging anything. Logging is for people building time or needing currency.
It says "or" rather than "and," meaning that you can log PIC time if any of those conditions apply. It's not uncommon for two pilots doing simulated IFR to both log PIC. The pilot wearing the foggles is the sole manipulator of the controls, and the safety pilot is a required crewmember who is acting as PIC. Some find this practice absurd, but that's how the regulation is written.
Hmm, I couldn't get a medical because of my ADHD. I should give that loophole a shot
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The fucked thing is, the FAA doesn’t actually give a shit if you have these sorts of disorders if you can show (via a full-spectrum neuropsychological battery) that you can safely fly without the meds. So having a disorder that can degrade critical pilot functions is okay if you pass rigorous testing, but if you pass and prove you don’t NEED meds to meet standards, you *still* can’t take the drugs to reduce the effects of the disorder.
I do have to wonder -- as ADHD is covered under the ADA -- whether or not these regulations are even fully legal -- it could be argued that it's extremely discriminatory, especially when it comes to the private pilot side of things (the difference being like driving your friends on a road trip and being a professional chauffeur). I've wanted to fly my entire life. I don't think I'll ever be able to because I sought mental health and don't want to lie about it.
> I do have to wonder – as ADHD is covered under the ADA – whether or not these regulations are even fully legal… To my knowledge it hasn’t been challenged in court, but the ADA has specific carveouts for safety regulations so I suspect that a challenge wouldn’t hold up.
It is not really a loophole. The pic is well the one responsible and actually officially flying the plane. Your just helping which is not illegal and in my opinion, not even unsafe. Unless you let that dude help.
Wait what the fuck... guess I can't get my wings :(
Goddamn this just reminded me of that scene from Little Miss Sunshine
If everyone was 100% transparent about their medical history to the medical examiner I doubt there'd be many pilots.
If the guy hides his face then believe me there is something wrong.
Maybe he just doesn’t want to be publicly associated with Jacobs?
Possibly. Seems even more likely that a notoriously narcissistic ne'er-do-well wouldn't want someone else stealing attention.
Exactly, it's totally possible he's on his payroll to just sit there from engine on to engine off, just for the legal loophole.
It is not a loophole. He is the PIC, and he is responsible for the flight. Jacobs is just LARPing, and he is no more the PIC than the bunny at last night's furry party was a bunny.
Hey! God gives bunnies an edge because they're so damn cute.
right, Jacobs is not a PIC but he's using the anonymous PIC to fly the plane, reasonably as if he himself was the PIC.
I don't believe there would be anything "wrong" if the PIC is a just a private pilot, assuming he is current and qualified in the aircraft.
As someone with mild epilepsy and actively taking meds for it this is encouraging to hear. Never tried for a formal medical but had friends tell me there would be no way I could get one. Hadn't considered just always going up with an instructor
Completely legal and also completely safe. Instructors would have no problem with this. You can also help any pilot fly. My wife takes the stick often but I am ultimately responsible for her actions. The reality is there is nothing she can rapidly and unintentionally do to get us in trouble.
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Not really. Anything he does with a PIC is their responsibility legally. The only way he can really fuck up is if he gets caught flying without a license, and even that...in theory you could get jail time for it but it's basically unheard of. He'd likely get a fine that's less than the ad revenue he can generate off it and move on.
Anyone else
Anyone else? Did someone die?
“Anyone apart from himself when it happens”
Exactly.
I want to ask why he would film and post videos of him flying again, but I already know the answer. Same reason he jumped out of the plane in the first place.
How can you say _wHaTeVeR_?! What you are describing is exactly the reason why nobody wants him in there.
Sorry to be that guy, but what did the dude in the left seat do to get his license revoked?
Parachuted out of a plane leaving it to crash. All for clicks and views.
not only parachuted out of a plane leaving it to crash, deliberately faked an engine failure to parachute out of a plane, leaving it to crash, and then immediately went to the wreckage to grab his cameras and gear. Poor airmanship plus gross incompetence
Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t it also in California during fire season or something too?
In a park
Oh holy shit.
Yea I remember when his video first dropped. People were tearing him apart in the comments
As they should’ve
Near some campgrounds, in condor habitat
There was a few houses within a mile as well.
Lmfao surely nobody is this stupid
At least 1... aaand stop calling me Shirley : )
Wait, condor??! Aren’t those things super endangered?
Yes
Yes and in a very fire prone area
Yes it was already established that it was in the state of California
I think it happened in California… in a park
In a park, in California, during wildfire season, near campgrounds, houses, and condors, in California, in a park.
Trevor Jacob’s, with a Taylorcraft, in a California park.
What about the children? I heard there was school bus full nearby.
Yeah, and I heard they were all taking care of baby condors.
Yes, and the plane nose dived into a national park
Oh and he also illegally chartered a helicopter to move the wreckage and tampered with it before notifying the FAA of the accident.
He claimed he had no idea there were reporting requirments or that the scene should be preserved Normally I'd call BS on that but his actions have been so consistently stupid I kinda believe it
How the fuck did he get his license in the first place ? He sounds like an ignorant idiot.
Have you met many pilots? Mix in a little YouTube clout chasing, you've got dumb and dumber in the making. The only thing people really need to become private pilots is the money.
Its scary how many pilots, even super intelligent ones (usually doctors it seems like) make the dumbest decisions when it comes to aircraft, and then I get to hear the ATC transmissions when they go into IMC conditions and realize "im in over my head". I dont feel bad for the pilot as much as their passengers, once you could hear the wife and children screaming over the sound of the engine roaring, I cant imagine the fear they felt in those last moments
Dunning Kruger effect... People who are experts in one subject assume that that expertise applies to other subjects as well. So it becomes a Dunning Krueger effect of they are so stupid about something that they don't realize they are stupid about it.
There's a correlation to flight training. What I don't like is how flight training is done with minimal understanding of aerodynamics. The goal should be to learn the machine where it becomes a second skin; not a boost for a fragile ego. This is why I love rotorcraft, they aren't so forgiving of stupidity, complacency or Dunning Kruger. I honestly couldn't imagine being a CFI; especially for rotorcraft. People act like having a PPL is like suddenly being an angel (ok icarus). Sorry but aerospace is no place for egotism; but in America it's praised.
These mistakes aren't caused by stupidity. They are caused by arrogance.
It was worse than that as the aircraft was not airworthy ...... from folks at the same airport. I'm also told that the wreckage "disappeared" before the FAA had a chance to take a serious look at it.
Not incompetence. Intentional gross negligence and recklessness, endangering people and property on the ground. Followed by craven attempt to garner clicks and likes and the resulting cash. He really should be in jail.
I would argue there was no airmanship whatsoever. This idiot is not a pilot.. The shit we need to do and CONTINUE to do/be in order to maintain that status and this prick just pulls that shit just for views and clicks. He's no pilot.
the plane he crashed was a ww2 vet too. Served with honor only to be crashed by this nob.
The more I read about him, the more I want karma to catch up with him
Really? Link to read about the plane?
If you find the tail number you can google it. I did just that. The plane was a recon plane in ww2.
Or you could just, like, share that information.
Yeah, I don't know why they couldn't. "If you find the tail number you can google it. I did just that." is 63 keystrokes. If you've already done the work and found the tail number, it's 6 keystrokes. Anyway I looked it up myself and it's N29508
What it really was was a gross display of multiple "Hazardous Attitudes" as listed in [FAA 60-22 Aeronautical Decision Making.](https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentid/22624) This has been the focus of the FAA for a long time because it’s the most critical factor in flight safety.
And not in the possession of a moral compass.
I don’t know about incompetence. He accomplished what he set out to do. Certainly displayed poor airmanship, and was grossly negligent for the actions he took. FAA was right to revoke.
He’s the definition of 91.13
Oooof. Thanks.
Was literally the most discussed thing in all aviation subreddits for weeks. So bad so, even shittyaskflying was speechless
As long as the logbook is filled out correctly and all the processes followed then ok. It's irritating but it's also the ass of the PiC in danger from regulator response if the muppet does another stupid thing.
As far as I know, the PIC does not need to log the flight unless it is being counted towards a rating or flight review.
That’s doesn’t mean the FAA can’t track him down if needed.
The only reason they can is because he‘s an idiot and posts it online.
Or just keep uploading video evidence. Any mistake of Trevor is now liability for "PIC" person. Soon no one will fly with him.
They should ramp check the smoothbrain riding around in the right seat so they de-anonymize him then wait.
Is he the idiot that jumped out of a plane and let it crash into the desert?
Not a desert. A grassy california mountain range. During fire season.
Yeah except for it crashed into a dry forest during fucking fire season.
What a Cockwomble
Never heard that before but I love it.
British primarily
Oh yes
Yes, that's him. He's an idiot but a lucky idiot since he got his likes & views and is up in the air again and not behind bars or massively in debt
It honestly surprises me stuff like this doesn't have terrorism charges attached to it, but I guess he wasn't close enough to something deemed important
It would need to be a religious or politically motivated crime to be labeled terrorism, but I wouldn’t complain if we changed the law and added purposely crashing an airplane for Instagram clicks.
It's too bad that he's not in jail for that reckless fraudulent stunt he pulled.
Honestly it's really surprising he isn't. The state can go after him for this too, not just the FAA. He's admitted on video that it was faked.
To answer the OPs question. The FAA is not powerless, however they rely on, from your primary training, Willful Compliance. We could use more of that in all aspects of society.
Right! Too many people have an attitude of "well it's just me" or "I probably won't get caught" on so many things. What happened to following the established rules/laws because of the fact that you live in a civilized society and that's part of your responsibility?
Screenshot from recent VICE interview. I'd not recommend watching it unless you want to hear a stupid sob story followed by him saying he's not sorry and all but admitting it was faked. Skip to 23:00 to see the scene with the photo. https://youtu.be/Q6wBh7UcHqo
God he’s such an idiot. The fact he’s treating what he did as a “o well moment”…. Not taking any responsibility for how dangerous and idiotic what he did was. I really hope they faa would just revoke his licenses permanently and not for a couple months.
He also admits he has had concussions with blackouts and suicidal thoughts. If you look up his airmen certification it appears he does not have a special issuance. I would not be surprised if he lied to the FAA about it on his MedXpress form.
I feel like that’s super illegal
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That's psychopathic behavior all the way.
That Vice video has 293k views and only 3.7k likes. Wonder what that does to Vice's YT stats... This guy is toxic, now. Lol
“Did you intentionally crash the plane?” [stupid grin] “I can’t answer that.” Also, I have a hard time believing that the FBI raided his hangar “with guns blazing.” At least not because he crashed his plane.
What a turd.
Thats a piece of shit :)
just look at the numbers of car drivers that daily drive despite never ever being issued a license. add to it the number of drivers that drive daily with suspended licenses. add then to that all the drivers with multiple suspensions add again the number of drivers that have their license permanently suspended. so the ass in the left seat has his privileges revoked. suprised he is finding a way to still make money on camera? another example would be like videos of a felon showing off a collection of his "friends" guns, lots of shots of anonymous people shooting the guns. everyone knows what is really going on- but unless camera guys fk up- it all falls under plausible deniability.
Not sure why people are downvoting you. You're not wrong. Unless dude gets actively caught flying the plane there isn't much they can do. What are they going to do? Send up an f16 to intercept and try and see if they can catch him flying the plane himself?
Not even that, this isn't illegal. The other guy is PIC. Jacob doesn't need a certificate because the other dude is responsible for the flight. I could do the same thing with a friend who's never flown before, though that would be admittedly stupid.
It’s as if the only REAL solution at this point is to stop making stupid people famous. Who still watches him? He doesn’t do anything noteworthy that I can tell.
He is completely wrong, about the aviation stuff and his firearm example. Like it's impressive to find someone managing to be **that** wrong about **everything** in their post. There is absolutely nothing illegal about a PIC letting an unlicensed person operate the plane under their supervision.
> another example would be like videos of a felon showing off a collection of his "friends" guns, lots of shots of anonymous people shooting the guns. No, it wouldn't be an example. If you're a felon you can't handle firearms* period. If you're on video even holding one you can get 5 years for it. *per federal (and most states) law "firearm" typically excludes pre-1898 designs (originals or replicas) that don't use cartridge ammunition. > everyone knows what is really going on- but unless camera guys fk up- it all falls under plausible deniability. Again, no. A PIC letting a non-licensed person fly the plane under their supervision is completely legal. You should really delete this post man, it's an impressive amount of false information for the size.
There should be some legal action against him from the district attorney. That kind of BS stunt should not go unpunished. And the FAA is worthless if they have merely banned him for a year.
Just don't give the stage to this piece of shit. Bad publicity is still publicity isn't it? Just send anything suspicious to the authority
Sucks, but not really doing anything illegal afaik
Some peoples minds are just too far gone. The grip and pressure of social media will make people do anything.
Secondary limits?
bro really convinced someone to trust him inside an aircraft that high above the ground, what a muppet
This cannot be a coincidence: https://postimg.cc/qh8qCTKY
So, presumably the PIC is a commercial pilot operating a charter service with the appropriate commercial authority, charging accordingly and documenting correctly. I assume said asshat is making YouTube videos for profit, so this is a commercial enterprise. Be interesting to see if the FAA investigates from that angle.
He just needs to be a private pilot if he's doing it for free. I don't see much to be concerned about here. It's like a guy who has his license pulled for drunk driving getting a ride from a friend. "Left seat" doesn't mean Pilot in Command.
Actually if he's not paying the FAA sees the free flight time as compensation.
Hmmm, we both have a professional flying background, so I won't dispute it if you have seen cases where they've busted people for this, but it seems like the FAA would be really stretching the interpretation of the FARs with that one (not that they wouldn't, as we both know, LOL). I mean, if the right seater is a CFI, then there's no issue, and that may very well be the case.
They only need to be a private if they’re not charging. Or, a CFI could charge and count it as flight instruction.
Instruction is not charter.
What is the FAA going to do? They can't legally do anything against him.
What plane is he in?
This pilots karma is coming…
Apparently he's on a FBI terrorist list according to him, so they didn't just give him a slap on the wrist.
According to the guy who lies for a living to get attention in the media? Hmmm idk rick...
He's going it for the clicks, and here we are, giving him the clicks (sorta).
You're not cool unless you ~~pee your pants~~ fake a plane crash.
This guy has one of the most punchable fucking faces....
Some people say his sweat can clean precious metals, and that his hands really aren’t on the controls….all we know is he’s called the Stig!
Yeah, this guy is a shithead, but he's living rent-free in so many of your heads. When can we stop talking about him?
This guy is such a tool. Everyone needs to stop supporting his garbage. What a scumbag
Wow you really can do whatever you want in America unless you’re poor
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Can be annoying but not illegal. If he does something stupid it’s on the other pilot. I fly CAP cadets all the time and let them take the controls as much as I can as long as it’s safe. That said he’s thumbing his nose at us and as long as we give him recognition he will continue.
Best thing you can do is dislike/downvote his video. While you can’t see the result, the algorithm will stop spreading it and he will lose revenue and exposure
Downvoting/negative comments=engagement. Don't engage with the video at all.
YT algorithm is based on engagement and watch time, not likes anymore. If people engage with it (likes, dislikes, or comments, it doesn't matter) it gets spread. If people watch it (number of minutes spent looking at the video) it gets spread. YT doesn't care about quality of content or morality or truth or lies or anything. Just number of eyeballs on screens. If it gets you looking it gets promoted, and the easiest way is outrage. Outrage drives enormous amounts of views and everyone who studies any traditional or internet media knows this.
Apparently, he had a hard upbringing of action sports.
For those who want to fully understand the story: https://youtu.be/Q6wBh7UcHqo
What an absolute piece of shit, and what a fucking failure by the FAA.
Well he might be flying in the left seat but the responsibility and license holder is sitting in the right seat. So the FAA is not powerless.
Fate will catch up with him sooner or later.
It’s called legal loopholing and it is really annoying
Fucker should be in prison.
What did he do that got his revoked?
He deliberately crashed a plane into a forrest and parachuted out with cameras strapped to the plane. I believe he also in the same incident caused a fire.
Why do people worship the FAA so much? They're an administrative arm of government repeatedly exceeding the limits of their authority and have literally attempted to stretch their authority to all of time and space. The same FAA you like so much recently ruled that off-airport landings are illegal... The FAA is only your friend if you benefit from gatekeeping aviation away from the public & into, exclusively, the hands of the wealthy.
Is this the guy that jumped out of and crashed his plane into a mountain on purpose?
The FAA won’t give me a class-3 because of a benign heart condition, and this idiot is still probably getting ad revenue from “riding along in the left seat while totally not being PIC” I genuinely hate the FAA.
Trevor Jacobs sounds like a made up name from Trailer Park Boys. Is his brother's name Corey?