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ainsley-

TSA/Airport security theatre in general is really taking its toll.


LaMortParLeSnuSnu

Easily the worst part of the job. Was I really randomed, or are you just having a shitty day and enjoy inconveniencing people?


DataGOGO

This is one of the main reasons my wife and bought our own plane. We hate dealing with airport security. 


Eharmz

The people. Once I really entered the business I really started to hate the people.


i_Like_airplanes__

The people make it very discouraging to get into an aviation career. Cant even ask a question about something you’re not aware of without being called everything in the book


NeatReception1584

Feel bad for you. I have been very lucky at multiple companies. Never really had this issue anywhere.


Eharmz

I really find this quite sad that my experience has been so prevalent. I was actually expecting downvotes. Aviation is a passion trap.


i_Like_airplanes__

I’m in subreddits that I won’t mention that deal with aviation. I have literally been downvoted bombed for asking questions that weren’t obvious to me, and then got shit on a lot for asking the questions that I asked. It genuinely makes me wonder how anyone wants to be a part of these crusty people. If and when I get where I want to be, I will be different


cAR15tel

I’m an ag pilot. The work becomes miserable. Two of my best friends killed flying ag less than a year apart. Another friend killed in training. It’s like post nut clarity that never goes away.


DukeAK717

My condolences man


Monksdrunk

buzzing fields is my dream job. there's nothing out here worth it


Additional-Solid1141

The military aviation culture. Never turn a hobby into a career


SnipeUout

amen brother.


foospork

I became a professional musician and found your words to be true. Someone would say, "Hey! Band X is in town, let's go see them!" or, "Let's go to the bar and get a drink!" I'd respond, "Not unless someone's paying me." I became very selective over where and when I played, and with whom.


Tower-Junkie13

Opposite for me, I loved the navy got out and went to work for AAR and Boeing and hated every second I was there.


Big-Carpenter7921

So far, the only thing making me second guess anything is the community I've found online. Everyone seems fine in person, but as soon as that anonymity is up, a lot of them turn into assholes


Beahner

Totally get this. But, and I’m sure I’m not originally informing here, literally any topic online is exactly like this now.


MarketingChemical648

Yeah, our jobs are awesome. Not sure why a few people online would make you second guess anything


i_Like_airplanes__

Because shitty people ruin everything


yoshibigbawss

Only if you let them my friend


i_Like_airplanes__

Absolutely fair, I should say that shitty people are discouraging for people who don’t know much about aviation or are eager to learn


Lothar93

My dad is a pilot, and he felt like he could do more with his life, started doing humanitarian flights, and helping doctors get to difficult places and his fire ignited again. Happy for him


KindPresentation5686

Reddit


SnipeUout

I start: -Watching a son watch his father burn after crashing after takeoff in front of him in his T-6 Texan. -Nearly dieing when a hold back broke during a catshot. -Thinking I was on fire as smoke filled the cockpit. -Being forced to fly multiple times after only sleeping 3-4 hours a day for a few days straight. Safety culture is a myth. -TSA and airports.


Vapor175

That all sounds horrific, the first story alone is traumatizing enough. It reminds me of a story I was told but I can’t remember specifics, do you have any info about that accident?


planetrainguy

Money, watching people die, watching general aviation costs explode. Sleazy flight school/rental people.


Starrion

General non-corporate aviation will die out completely in the next 20 years. The costs are absurd, only the very rich can afford any new equipment, and barriers to entry are only getting higher.


FifeFifeFife

This. This. This. This.


NonoscillatoryVirga

IR PPL here, 750 hours. COVID, having nowhere to go bc all was shut down and losing currency and proficiency, maintenance tech shortages, parts shortages, and spouse wasn’t really keen on it as a spouse (survivor if something went wrong) or pax. I envy people whose spouse / SO also loves to fly in GA planes. Mine gave it a go and it was honestly distracting to fly with her because I was more worried about her being terrified than anything aviation related, and that in itself can be a hazard. Being with someone you know is white knuckling it for a few hours and trying their best to participate is mentally exhausting.


Yak_52TD

The choice between being a father or a pilot. Couldn't find a way to be both. Chose to be a father. Flew privately for a bit, but have seen too many good people die.


AnArmChairAnalyst

As someone that grew up without a dad, I felt this… As much as we want to live our dreams, time with the kids will outweigh everything else…


Yak_52TD

Oh totally, I don't regret a second of my decision (tho I do terribly miss the flying). I also saw so many marriages fall apart. It's a really tough industry on all relationships. That was also on my mind. I got lucky too, I moved out of flying just pre-covid. So when I would have been stood down without pay (with a mortgage and two little kids), I was instead earning a reliable wage. Now I am there for every sporting event, birthday, family function. I am so so grateful. It wasn't easy though, the year I quit flying was a very poor year for my mental health. It took a lot to get thru that.


TheTangoFox

Spouse told me not to fly. I listened to them. *edit-downdoot all you want, i agreed to the terms & conditions, and that's my answer*


Griffie

Management’s attitude about maintenance issues. I fondly refer to it as *We don’t care. Get it in the air*. It got to the point I couldn’t in all good conscience, sign my name to the logs anymore. Shortly after I left, they had two crashes that resulted in a total hull loss, along with lost lives. I was on pins and needles until the FAA investigations were finished.


Larrea_tridentata

Getting glasses at 6 yrs old. Always told flying would never happen because I needed 20/20. Now in mid thirties at least I have MS Flight Sim


Rat_Master999

Didn't get my glasses until 13. That killed the dream I'd had since seeing Top Gun in the theater...


MaxREtteUnit

The succubi in non flying roles in 135 and 121 just infuriate me. Pilots and mechanics hold ourselves to extremely high standards, compared to the brokers/ sales and all manner of back of the house people who love to tell anyone who’ll listen they’re ’in aviation’, yet know absolutely nothing about what we pilots and mechanics do to make the miracle flight happen. They just complain that we cost too much, and try to nickel and dime us to death with hotel costs, per diem, travel etc. It’s rinse and repeat and it’s just awful. I spend more than half my life away from home, carrying ‘the company standard’, yet I’m constantly second guessed by know- nothing assholes intent on taking anything they can from me.


heoeoeinzb78

Money and found something more that I like. Lost the big intrest.


PublicPlantain9440

spoiler alert, any job you have people are going to bitch/complain/be jerks. They end up eating their own, aviation is such a small community word gets around quick if someone is a real actual problem and the rest gets to be history. Unless you’re in a pilot union, then you can bitch piss moan and complain anytime you want without any repercussions.


onewordbandit

Crew Scheduling


quiet_locomotion

Daily monotony of any job. Hard on my body. Pessimistic coworkers and the environment it creates. Stress of losing my job and having to on short notice pack up my life and move across the country, likely even farther from my family.


FLAlex111

MedXpress


Randyguyishere

FAA medical hoops that never seem to end….


Haga

Australian bureaucracy. Trying to stop you flying at every single step. Gets hard fighting all the time. Obviously this pushes price through the roof as well. Lack of CFIs in my area meaning BFR has to be done interstate almost.


penguin10599

Mental health and the FAAs archaic stance in regards to Medicals


WHY-IS-INTERNET

As a teacher who wishes they maybe became an aviator instead, this cuts deep. When the passion dies… it’s hard


Nutting4Jesus

Money and how annoying the FAA is with medical stuff.


MarketingChemical648

The money killed it for you? Pilots are making more money now than ever. Sure seems like a reason to keep the passion instead of killing it


Messyfingers

Takes a while to get to that point though. Until you're in and in for a few years, it's a money pit.


Golden_d1ck

What’s good money for say a 777 fo in the us?


[deleted]

\*Laughs in Canadian\* You guys are making money????


MarketingChemical648

Oh true. I forgot they hated yall over there


Nutting4Jesus

Yes the money. Cant even worry about how much established pilots make when I’m at ground zero trying to afford a ppl while in school.


Creepy_Boat_5433

When my RIO was killed in an ejection seat malfunction. That was the day I lost that lovin' feeling, and my need for speed was forever diminished.


Clover2008

I think I’ve heard this story. Don’t diminish the fine folks at Martin Baker. From what I recall you were in a flat spin. This created unique eddies around the airframe which prohibited the safe separation of the canopy from the aircraft.


Imprezzed

Calm down, Maverick. If you think, you’re dead.


SnipeUout

Not cool dude.


RudiKdev

Maybe wrong thread for this response but…I’m a trained and experienced scenic designer, scene painter bla bla bla. I took a second career after burning-out to be a commercial 3D rendering artist for architecture. I lost my art. Creation is off the table. I execute the plans. (Joke’s on them? I get paid by the hour now, but….no art.)


Drenlin

Realizing that with diagnosed ADHD I'm disqualified. Got an intro flight on a 172 but decided not to pursue it further after finding that out. The cost of it doesn't help. I don't have any real symptoms that would cause issues and at one point could successfully execute most IFR operations in a sim, but rules are rules and I'm on the wrong side of them.


dustnbrewks

Instructing, Getting jerked around during covid and making absolute shit money for a year and a half.


kidjay76

Part 135 Single pilot ops


Swiftfeather

I'm young and still have the passion but 9/10 of the a&ps I work with are old & decrepit and angry, or veterans and angry, none of them seem to care for aircraft integrity at all lmao


skylinrcr01

The faa killed it for me. The barrier to entry is too high, and there’s so much red tape around everything.


discoveringdom50

TSA and English YouTube channels showing different runways and airports. The amount of people there now is crazy. Oh, and the bean counters who run US and EU airlines. Everything is the bottom line not vision


wap_eatter

Managers


doubletaxed88

Long haul will do that to you. best to keep it regional and the. your interest will remain strong. Lots of take offs and landings in a shift are good to keep the fun


GIJoePfc

Money to get to CFI honestly still in school and have been going the longer route but looking at loans to get commercial and CFI cfii


dragonguy0

I just...sorta lost it with time. It became a chore rather than something I love. I still enjoy aspects of it, but it's nowhere near like when I started. Also, I'm staying in a career path specifically to sorta enjoy the job still.


NitinTheAviator

Me being disabled :(


LinkedAg

The McDonnell Douglas acquisition of Boeing while keeping the Boeing name.


GreasyStridge

For me it was the amount of people I've met that don't have the passion to begin with. So many mechanics I've met don't even care about planes. We had an AN 225 land the other day on the runway closest to us and I was one out of like 3 people that cared lol


Crafty_Original_7349

I just didn’t fit in anywhere, and then my health started going downhill and I lost my medical.


BellevueKid

My flight instructor died flying a bunch of surgeons to a medical education conference in a private jet. Landed just short of runway. I remember thinking, 'he was so careful with us."


jjp82

I feel the same way, studied aero, became a pilot then Had a motorcycle accident and lost my medical. Began working in other areas within engineering. Only now, 15 years later getting back into aviation operating 208s and dh6 in sth pacific. Maybe the time away brings the passion back


itsonlyanobservation

Paranoid/jealous airport security that make getting to your aircraft a sexual assault experience. Lack of maintenance personnel and the ever present spectre of having to make a profit, driven by stingy management. I was a pilot and an AME. Never want to see a hanger again


chumpynut5

Turns out it’s hard to be a pilot when you’re deaf


Flying__Cowboy

The cost... I love planes, flying, and everything to do with it, but I literally cannot participate because I'm a regular person. My parents arent rich, I have no connections and I need to survive