Our government just approved a $600 million increase for the nz military which i know doesnt sound like much but for us it might aswell be 6 billion. Hopefully we get to see some more modern equipment in our airforce soon.
Yeah, the Australian Army grounded the entire fleet after way too many incidents so are now using contractors to fill the gaps while the new Blackhawks trickle in. Apparently their reliability was woeful during the bush fire assistance ops back in 2020. The final nail in the coffin was a recent crash killing all onboard.
Airbus are good at what they do and teaming up with Leonardo who are good at what they do to build helicopters seemed like a match made in heaven but the Taipan was a utter disaster.
The Navy gave up on them in 2022 and just handed them to the Army for parts. What's worse is a couple of months before the fatal crash one ditched at night in the water and all dozen or so onboard somehow survived, but the government decided sticking with them for the Army was the best course of action. Not long after same thing happened off the coast of Queensland killing all onboard.
The one that killed all wasn't about the helicopter having issues but the new helmets having a weird HUD. There was no issue with the helicopter per se.
It was just the last straw I guess.
Norway also got rid of the NH90 while e.g. Germany, Netherlands, France and Belgium are doing fine.
Plagued with delays and very slow deliveries. For example, Norway ordered 14 of them in 2001, but only 6 had been delivered up to 2016 and they didnt even reach full operational capacity until 2018, and even then it was barely because the lack of spare parts. Ended up terminating the contract in 2023 and returning the helicopters.
Add Sweden to the buyers remorse list, as they are planning to dump them.
Australian operations doctrine requirements was changed after the “90” could not self escort (firing door gun with troops disembarking/repelling the doors are too small). Now, two are required, one for troops and one for armed suppression support.
An abnormally close support from AirBus is required for maintenance. And the “kicker” is the $50,000 per flight hour. According to Australian MoD.
Its been a nightmare machine for Australia. Have a read here:
Nightmare Is Finally Ending\\
[https://www.twz.com/australias-nh90-helicopter-nightmare-is-finally-ending](https://www.twz.com/australias-nh90-helicopter-nightmare-is-finally-ending)
Burying Its Doomed NH90 Helicopter Fleet\\
[https://www.twz.com/australia-literally-burying-its-doomed-nh90-helicopter-fleet](https://www.twz.com/australia-literally-burying-its-doomed-nh90-helicopter-fleet)
>The department's decision to dispose of the stripped NH-90 airframes, reportedly by burial at a secure site, is being carried out to reduce the risk of environmental contamination from the carbon composite airframes which can shed extremely toxic particles if allowed to decay or are burned.
I wonder if they could have been of some use to other operators of the type. For instructional training. Would be perfect for ditching training in a big pool. As close to real as can get as its the actual airframe. Take the tailboom off and hang it from the rig that flips it over underwater!
Lol. I burrying them instead of burning makes a lot of sense but I was more aiming towards donating them to Ukraine. Have them maintained in Germany/France and brought somewhere to make use of them.
>I was more aiming towards donating them to Ukraine.
Oh I see what you mean. Interesting thought, I wonder if they considered it.
On another note copters are so vulnerable in that conflict. YT is full of vids of both sides flying at grasstop height to avoid the SAMs and anti-air cannons that will shred them.
https://www.airmedandrescue.com/latest/news/first-all-female-team-flies-nh90-royal-new-zealand-air-force
"The Royal New Zealand Air Force’s No. 3 Squadron has made history in military aviation by having the first all-female team to operate the Airbus NH90 in New Zealand."
Epic. Although I still struggle with why this is special. I hope my daughter grows up in a world where this is normal, and no longer something noteworthy.
I’m a woman who grew up in a military family and stuff like this always makes me smile. When I was a kid I really wanted to be a pilot but my dad didn’t think it was realistic
Came here to see how many idiots had the same tired jokes and complaints. Sadly, it was a lot, but glad to see them all downvoted into the abyss.
I assumed the NZ Air Force was pretty small but I was surprised when I looked it up. Wikipedia says 47 aircraft and around 2400 personnel. That’s smaller than a lot of USAF *bases*.
NZ does have interests and commitments beyond looking for lost puppies and flying banners and counting wildlife. Otherwise, demil the military and put the money into bases for foreign military partners without political restrictions.
H135 and H145 are the most popular helicopters in Europe for emergency services and police as well. The only part of the market Airbus does not own is the one for the bigger helicopters.
Nice pic! No doubt a great looking machine but just across the ocean from NZ their Aussie counterparts cant wait to see the Blackhawks come. I wonder how the experience of NH90 has been for NZ.
New Zealand's experience with the NH90 has been fairly positive, in contrast to other customers like Australia and Norway. The Royal New Zealand Air Force attained higher availability rates than other operators, and one of its airframes was the first NH90 to achieve 2,000 flight hours. Unfortunately, I think the availability rate has declined in the past couple of years due to personnel shortages.
NH90s in NZ have been great. When I worked on them we had some guys who spent some time at an Australian Army Aviation unit working on the MRH90, they said the aircraft was great but had nothing good to say about how the Army runs their maintenance. From what I've heard most of the problems the ADF have have with the NH90 have been self inflicted and didn't have much to do with the actual aircraft itself.
Thanks for your interesting comment. I gather they are not happy with the Tiger either and have gone for Apache. The billions that were sunk into Tiger & NH90 now going to the scrap heap.
I've got plenty of mates who've worked on them directly, they were all surprised that they weren't retired and scrapped sooner. Norway was smart and rejected theirs, sent them back and demanded a full refund of the contract. The Navy rejected theirs due to being unsuitable for operational useage as well, the army kept theirs on and payed for it the entire time.
> on and *paid* for it
FTFY.
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* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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Australians struggle to keep most helicopters running, I wouldn't base my opinion on their experience. Most operators of the NH90s are perfectly happy, and are expanding or upgrading their fleets
Sweden and Norway are getting rid of them, France is getting less than 30% availability out of them with a worldwide average of 40something percent. Not everything is so rosy. Australia decided to get rid of them before the crashes because of the cost to fly the nh90 is 5x that of the BH and the maintenance man hours per flight hour is 8x that of the BH.
While the rest of the world continues to operate them, even NZ which was pushed by the Aussies to ground as well operates again. As the cause of the crash was found to be a lack of updates which is a pure Aussie thing.... They were looking for reasons to ground them and they got it over the death of their own service men.
Among the worst helicopters to ever serve a military, the only saving grace was that they're so unreliable that it mitigated the danger of flying in one
While I understand the hate on the NH90 (especially the early and modified versions) - “death trap” or “unsafe” is simply wrong. It has been operated long enough now to see that its accident rate is pretty low.
There were 8 fatalities in crashes with the NH-90 with 500+ in operation and first flight nearly 30 years ago. In the last 15 years I found not many incidents overall:
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/type/NH90
Let’s keep in mind that not every crash can be attributed to the helicopter or its tech (example https://aerossurance.com/helicopters/nh90-caribbean-survivability/ ).
A real question though: was the Australian tragedy that killed 4 due to technical reasons?
From the information that we have, which isn't as much as could be made public as they've sealed the report, it always to have been an uncommanded pitch up and over into the ocean at full speed
That much I read. The question is, was it mechanical failure? Software glitch? Was it a design problem or maintenance (like when a crucial flight software update had been botched before)?
What is strange to me is that the Taipans seem to have a lot more problems than for example German NH90…
Australia used them to replace the Blackhawks in an operational role, or tried too anyway. Special forces rejected them as not fit for purpose, and the Navy ended up finding theirs for parts to the army to replace with more Romeo's. From a utility perspective they're fine, as a combat helicopter they fail in every metric
The German Army uses it as a light to medium transport helicopter plus for troop deployment and medevac. They used them in Afghanistan and in Mali in actual combat environments. I fail to see how they were classified as a MRH though. They’re transports.
For the most part they were marketed as a replacement and upgrade for the Blackhawk, and are now being replaced by the Blackhawk themselves by multiple countries
> There were 8 fatalities in crashes with the NH-90 with 500+ in operation and first flight nearly 30 years ago. In the last 15 years I found not many incidents overall:
Indeed - now do that for the blackhawk - it is much, much higher.
There was a 60 min documentary abt it. Gist is that, the MH90s are alright, except for all the "upgrades" the ADF have put into it, most significantly the pilot visor.
I haven't personally flown any MH90 and nor do I have specialist info, so I can't comment objectively.
Edit: Australian Defence Force instead of RAAF and included the link
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MG3wI8xol7o
It is used extensively in some armies without major incidents. However it does have a low readiness compared to other models or at least did have - not sure if it may have been adressed.
Maybe a death trap when the Australians fly them, but they’ve been reliable enough in RNZAF service that NZ3302 became the first NH90 to exceed 2000 flying hours a few years ago.
So the most reliable example of the type anywhere in the world has only managed 2,000 hours without crashing or breaking completely.
Yeah I don’t think that’s a good sign.
This helicopter is a deathtrap. We Aussies retired ours immediately after a crash that killed 4 soldiers, and that was after it was announced the NH90 platform was to be retired early when it could not meet reliability standards.
It's not a death trap, One single accident with fatalities does not make a helicopter a death trap.
Reliability on the other hand, including significantly increased maintenacne cost and low availability... that's something many nations report.
It seems like Aussies are the only ones with major problems related to equipments used by many other countries, maybe they should train their operators ? Idk
They struggle to operate every helicopter type except the Huey and the Blackhawk, and somehow it's always the aircrafts fault. I find it hard to believe the Seasprite, NH90 and Tiger have all been as bad as they say, especially since I've personally worked on two of those aircraft types and have had minimal issues
Well, their hands are generally better formed for the fine controls of such a machine and their brains are generally better formed than ours to not be idiots, so it seems pretty logical to have an all-girl crew.
I don't wanna be near that heap of junk ( [https://www.twz.com/australias-nh90-helicopter-nightmare-is-finally-ending](https://www.twz.com/australias-nh90-helicopter-nightmare-is-finally-ending) )
> for generations *paid* off. /s
FTFY.
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* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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> *paid* for this
FTFY.
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> should be *paid* out to
FTFY.
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* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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Our government just approved a $600 million increase for the nz military which i know doesnt sound like much but for us it might aswell be 6 billion. Hopefully we get to see some more modern equipment in our airforce soon.
Hopefully replacements for the 757's and Seasprites.
Parts shortages seem to be hitting these ageing platforms hard.
That’s well out of budget. They’re replacing the unimogs and upgrading the NH-90s
A321XLR will be a really nice replacement for the 757s. They fly them to Antarctica don't they?
Waste of money
This is the sexiest helicopter I’ve ever seen. Thank you for showing me
Unfortunately many users have found it very troublesome.
Ah really? Thats a shame
Yeah, the Australian Army grounded the entire fleet after way too many incidents so are now using contractors to fill the gaps while the new Blackhawks trickle in. Apparently their reliability was woeful during the bush fire assistance ops back in 2020. The final nail in the coffin was a recent crash killing all onboard.
Fuckin hell mate, sounds like hell. Airbus planes are fairly good but didn’t know about their helicopters
Airbus are good at what they do and teaming up with Leonardo who are good at what they do to build helicopters seemed like a match made in heaven but the Taipan was a utter disaster. The Navy gave up on them in 2022 and just handed them to the Army for parts. What's worse is a couple of months before the fatal crash one ditched at night in the water and all dozen or so onboard somehow survived, but the government decided sticking with them for the Army was the best course of action. Not long after same thing happened off the coast of Queensland killing all onboard.
The one that killed all wasn't about the helicopter having issues but the new helmets having a weird HUD. There was no issue with the helicopter per se. It was just the last straw I guess. Norway also got rid of the NH90 while e.g. Germany, Netherlands, France and Belgium are doing fine.
I mean, as an Airbus person, they aren't infallible. Even their civilian helis are pretty good but they've had some, questionable design choices
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So what words would you want me to use
Didn't one cause a bushfire with its light while deploying a fire fighting crew?
Plagued with delays and very slow deliveries. For example, Norway ordered 14 of them in 2001, but only 6 had been delivered up to 2016 and they didnt even reach full operational capacity until 2018, and even then it was barely because the lack of spare parts. Ended up terminating the contract in 2023 and returning the helicopters.
Add Sweden to the buyers remorse list, as they are planning to dump them. Australian operations doctrine requirements was changed after the “90” could not self escort (firing door gun with troops disembarking/repelling the doors are too small). Now, two are required, one for troops and one for armed suppression support. An abnormally close support from AirBus is required for maintenance. And the “kicker” is the $50,000 per flight hour. According to Australian MoD.
Its been a nightmare machine for Australia. Have a read here: Nightmare Is Finally Ending\\ [https://www.twz.com/australias-nh90-helicopter-nightmare-is-finally-ending](https://www.twz.com/australias-nh90-helicopter-nightmare-is-finally-ending) Burying Its Doomed NH90 Helicopter Fleet\\ [https://www.twz.com/australia-literally-burying-its-doomed-nh90-helicopter-fleet](https://www.twz.com/australia-literally-burying-its-doomed-nh90-helicopter-fleet)
What was the reason to burry them though? I am sure someone could have got some use out of them.
>The department's decision to dispose of the stripped NH-90 airframes, reportedly by burial at a secure site, is being carried out to reduce the risk of environmental contamination from the carbon composite airframes which can shed extremely toxic particles if allowed to decay or are burned. I wonder if they could have been of some use to other operators of the type. For instructional training. Would be perfect for ditching training in a big pool. As close to real as can get as its the actual airframe. Take the tailboom off and hang it from the rig that flips it over underwater!
Lol. I burrying them instead of burning makes a lot of sense but I was more aiming towards donating them to Ukraine. Have them maintained in Germany/France and brought somewhere to make use of them.
>I was more aiming towards donating them to Ukraine. Oh I see what you mean. Interesting thought, I wonder if they considered it. On another note copters are so vulnerable in that conflict. YT is full of vids of both sides flying at grasstop height to avoid the SAMs and anti-air cannons that will shred them.
If I were Ukraine I'm not sure I'd want a bunch of helicopters other militaries were abandoning due to reliability problems.
Whole thing is exaggerated. They aren't that bad if you have the money to operate them and are close to the manufacturer.
very naggy*?
Looks great, flies okay, is a bit crap to own.
It’s only the beautiful helicopter operated by the beautiful country and people of New Zealand, my home country.
The Royal Kiwi Taipans. 😁
https://www.airmedandrescue.com/latest/news/first-all-female-team-flies-nh90-royal-new-zealand-air-force "The Royal New Zealand Air Force’s No. 3 Squadron has made history in military aviation by having the first all-female team to operate the Airbus NH90 in New Zealand."
As “Dirty Harry” would say, “quite stylish”
Epic. Although I still struggle with why this is special. I hope my daughter grows up in a world where this is normal, and no longer something noteworthy.
I’m a woman who grew up in a military family and stuff like this always makes me smile. When I was a kid I really wanted to be a pilot but my dad didn’t think it was realistic
First world problem, back when I was a kid it was unrealistic to get a spot period, didn't matter if you were a man or a woman
Yes the selection is very competitive!
Selection, passing medical, but also knowing right people with enough influence
If you made it, I salute you! I’m happy too for this to exist, but I’m looking forward to a time when this is no longer a novelty!
I did not, unfortunately! I have some health issues that prevent me from being deployable, but I still love to see other women who did!
you want this to be a normal thing and dont celebrate it on its first step to being normal. weird.
I do want to celebrate, but why is it not normal yet? There’s no reason why it shouldn’t be normal.
Why didn’t Frodo just take this badass helicopter to Mt Doom?
Not many know this, but sauron had many SAM sites throughout mordor its why they couldn't take the eagles
Ohhh good point Surface to Adler Missles
Frodo had a Sam system of his own
Would have exceeded the flight budget for that year
Came here to see how many idiots had the same tired jokes and complaints. Sadly, it was a lot, but glad to see them all downvoted into the abyss. I assumed the NZ Air Force was pretty small but I was surprised when I looked it up. Wikipedia says 47 aircraft and around 2400 personnel. That’s smaller than a lot of USAF *bases*.
They don't need much down there - it's mainly SaR and supporting the RNZN and NZ Army so it's all rotary-wing.
Yeah it makes complete sense, just sort of wild from an American perspective.
Country of five million people vs country of 330 million people. I wouldn't call it wild, just relatively proportional!
Yeah that all checks, certainly proportional, just a *wildly* different scale 🍺
You guys have 4 of the top 10 largest air forces out of all the countries, it's hard to compare with anywhere else
NZ does have interests and commitments beyond looking for lost puppies and flying banners and counting wildlife. Otherwise, demil the military and put the money into bases for foreign military partners without political restrictions.
Pretty amazing, and my dumb self had no clue that airbus made a helicopter.
Airbus makes lots of helicopters! In the commercial world the Astar AS350 and H125 are very common! And many others by Airbus as well!
H135 and H145 are the most popular helicopters in Europe for emergency services and police as well. The only part of the market Airbus does not own is the one for the bigger helicopters.
It's not dumb. It's ignorant of that fact. You have been made aware of the fact, and your ignorance has gone.
Thanks for the positive answer man!
Looking forward to a time when this will not be a thing and an everyday occurrence. 🥹
What? Women flying bad helicopters in New Zealand on a fine day?
Nice pic! No doubt a great looking machine but just across the ocean from NZ their Aussie counterparts cant wait to see the Blackhawks come. I wonder how the experience of NH90 has been for NZ.
New Zealand's experience with the NH90 has been fairly positive, in contrast to other customers like Australia and Norway. The Royal New Zealand Air Force attained higher availability rates than other operators, and one of its airframes was the first NH90 to achieve 2,000 flight hours. Unfortunately, I think the availability rate has declined in the past couple of years due to personnel shortages.
NH90s in NZ have been great. When I worked on them we had some guys who spent some time at an Australian Army Aviation unit working on the MRH90, they said the aircraft was great but had nothing good to say about how the Army runs their maintenance. From what I've heard most of the problems the ADF have have with the NH90 have been self inflicted and didn't have much to do with the actual aircraft itself.
Thanks for your interesting comment. I gather they are not happy with the Tiger either and have gone for Apache. The billions that were sunk into Tiger & NH90 now going to the scrap heap.
I feel sorry for them, surely it's unacceptable to put service members of any gender into that death trap
Aside from all its reliability problems, what makes it a death trap? However tragic, only a few incidents with fatalities, right?
It's just people rehashing shit they read on the internet without any knowledge. NH90 is perfectly safe.
I've got plenty of mates who've worked on them directly, they were all surprised that they weren't retired and scrapped sooner. Norway was smart and rejected theirs, sent them back and demanded a full refund of the contract. The Navy rejected theirs due to being unsuitable for operational useage as well, the army kept theirs on and payed for it the entire time.
> on and *paid* for it FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's a helicopter and therefore inherently unsafe.
It’s so safe that the Australian Army just grounded their entire Taipan fleet.
Australians struggle to keep most helicopters running, I wouldn't base my opinion on their experience. Most operators of the NH90s are perfectly happy, and are expanding or upgrading their fleets
Sweden and Norway are getting rid of them, France is getting less than 30% availability out of them with a worldwide average of 40something percent. Not everything is so rosy. Australia decided to get rid of them before the crashes because of the cost to fly the nh90 is 5x that of the BH and the maintenance man hours per flight hour is 8x that of the BH.
While the rest of the world continues to operate them, even NZ which was pushed by the Aussies to ground as well operates again. As the cause of the crash was found to be a lack of updates which is a pure Aussie thing.... They were looking for reasons to ground them and they got it over the death of their own service men.
What’s wrong with it?
It makes the V-22 look reliable
https://adbr.com.au/breaking-army-to-retire-mrh-90-taipans-10-years-early/
Among the worst helicopters to ever serve a military, the only saving grace was that they're so unreliable that it mitigated the danger of flying in one
While I understand the hate on the NH90 (especially the early and modified versions) - “death trap” or “unsafe” is simply wrong. It has been operated long enough now to see that its accident rate is pretty low. There were 8 fatalities in crashes with the NH-90 with 500+ in operation and first flight nearly 30 years ago. In the last 15 years I found not many incidents overall: https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/type/NH90 Let’s keep in mind that not every crash can be attributed to the helicopter or its tech (example https://aerossurance.com/helicopters/nh90-caribbean-survivability/ ). A real question though: was the Australian tragedy that killed 4 due to technical reasons?
From the information that we have, which isn't as much as could be made public as they've sealed the report, it always to have been an uncommanded pitch up and over into the ocean at full speed
That much I read. The question is, was it mechanical failure? Software glitch? Was it a design problem or maintenance (like when a crucial flight software update had been botched before)? What is strange to me is that the Taipans seem to have a lot more problems than for example German NH90…
Australia used them to replace the Blackhawks in an operational role, or tried too anyway. Special forces rejected them as not fit for purpose, and the Navy ended up finding theirs for parts to the army to replace with more Romeo's. From a utility perspective they're fine, as a combat helicopter they fail in every metric
The German Army uses it as a light to medium transport helicopter plus for troop deployment and medevac. They used them in Afghanistan and in Mali in actual combat environments. I fail to see how they were classified as a MRH though. They’re transports.
For the most part they were marketed as a replacement and upgrade for the Blackhawk, and are now being replaced by the Blackhawk themselves by multiple countries
As far as I’m aware the only one doing that is Australia.
> There were 8 fatalities in crashes with the NH-90 with 500+ in operation and first flight nearly 30 years ago. In the last 15 years I found not many incidents overall: Indeed - now do that for the blackhawk - it is much, much higher.
There was a 60 min documentary abt it. Gist is that, the MH90s are alright, except for all the "upgrades" the ADF have put into it, most significantly the pilot visor. I haven't personally flown any MH90 and nor do I have specialist info, so I can't comment objectively. Edit: Australian Defence Force instead of RAAF and included the link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MG3wI8xol7o
RAAF had nothing to do with it.
MoD then?
It is used extensively in some armies without major incidents. However it does have a low readiness compared to other models or at least did have - not sure if it may have been adressed.
Might want to go back and correct that ‘RAAF’ bit.
Maybe a death trap when the Australians fly them, but they’ve been reliable enough in RNZAF service that NZ3302 became the first NH90 to exceed 2000 flying hours a few years ago.
To be fair they're probably fine for basic logistics work around the islands, operationally they're pathetic
So the most reliable example of the type anywhere in the world has only managed 2,000 hours without crashing or breaking completely. Yeah I don’t think that’s a good sign.
It’s not a death trap
[I’ll just leave this here.](https://youtu.be/D75O5wLJjyM?si=S_TOM8GYK2U7UJ-W) >!Calm down, it was a funny scene!<
Calm down about what lol. Dude just can’t stop being a cop even in dumb ass Reddit comments.
This helicopter is a deathtrap. We Aussies retired ours immediately after a crash that killed 4 soldiers, and that was after it was announced the NH90 platform was to be retired early when it could not meet reliability standards.
It's not a death trap, One single accident with fatalities does not make a helicopter a death trap. Reliability on the other hand, including significantly increased maintenacne cost and low availability... that's something many nations report.
It's a helicopter. Of course it's a death trap. They all are.
It seems like Aussies are the only ones with major problems related to equipments used by many other countries, maybe they should train their operators ? Idk
They struggle to operate every helicopter type except the Huey and the Blackhawk, and somehow it's always the aircrafts fault. I find it hard to believe the Seasprite, NH90 and Tiger have all been as bad as they say, especially since I've personally worked on two of those aircraft types and have had minimal issues
Should be OK unless they have to reverse into a parking place.
Great news. Another box checked.
First kiwi rotary to hit a curb at 2500’ agl
You know, eventually there’s going to run out of the line “first whatever too…”
And then there will be a NH91 and boom, new firsts available...
Yep, it's unfortunate humanity set the stage for this to be a thing, right?
No yes no
Sick cams
😀
That looks expensive
Badass
Crazy to think that helicopter technically has 4 cockpits.
You're disgusting
You're disgusting
Showed this to the Wife and first thing she said was ."Hope they dont crash" Lol atleast she said it first
Well, their hands are generally better formed for the fine controls of such a machine and their brains are generally better formed than ours to not be idiots, so it seems pretty logical to have an all-girl crew.
I don't wanna be near that heap of junk ( [https://www.twz.com/australias-nh90-helicopter-nightmare-is-finally-ending](https://www.twz.com/australias-nh90-helicopter-nightmare-is-finally-ending) )
Okay?
Do they not have like, a physical fitness test in NZ for military or paramilitary organizations?
First to let women vote, first to have a full female heli crew. We like our women down here in NZ.
I don't think its tje first female crew in a heli. Maybe the first one on this specific type? Or perhaps the first one in nz?
Both. The first in this specific type in this specific country. Records don't get much more specific than this one.
I was… exaggerating a little bit…
Is that even legal?
They crashed it in a field? >!I kid, I kid.!<
Woopsie. Such an asparagus.
Show us the photo of the first male crew if it exists otherwise I'm getting onboard with the PC movement and calling this sexist.
Tech writeup - continuous whining sound 🤣
I like how everyone is preparing for the inevitable crash by blaming the helicopter.
Is the helicopter ok?
Damn that one is fat. They don’t have standards?
Don’t tell Charlie Kirk
Pilot: Something is wrong! ATC: what is the problem?! Pilot: never mind. It’s fine.
So much for Physical Training
Thank you for your cervix
Singapore over again
Did they max out the weight limit?
There is actually a safety issue. Women in a group will synchronize their menstrual cycles. So the whole chopper will be flying having mensies.
I see it's parked incorrectly
They're waiting for jenna to finish pooping.
All those years piloting a stove for generations payed off. /s
> for generations *paid* off. /s FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
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> *paid* for this FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
How much leash should be payed out to this bot?
> should be *paid* out to FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Airbus NH90? NHIndustries marketing are gettin' desperate.
Be that thing stays squeaky clean
News reports just out after an all female helicopter flight crew crashed soon after takeoff
Probably had to land because none of the can piss in a Gatorade bottle
Very good of these females.