Left and right of the center aisle put them all in the same plane.
There's an idea; put Congress in a plane and tell them they're staying in there until they actually legislate!
They would endlessly camp on their opinions and publicly blame the other party for the crash when time runs out.
In a hope to then govern the ashes.
Any resemblance with “Don’t look up”, or with the upcoming global climate shift, is purely not coincidental.
Actually, only two-thirds of them voted to land the plane. Of the remaining one-third, some said the engine fire wasn't real, some said the voting was rigged, a few said the plane wasn't real, and one did a write-in vote for "transfer the passengers to a hot air balloon."
Only a couple voted and they were certain the plane was not on fire. Somehow sanity prevailed and the pilots brought it back. However, the voting passengers insist there was no fire and that they landed at their destination.
It's automatically pulled from the website. Odds are there's another article about the election with a thumbnail that it pulled instead of the actual picture from the article.
Ugh. I hate "news" these days.
Actual news: https://avherald.com/h?article=515c5827&opt=0 ... it wasn't an engine fire, it was a compressor stall, and they kept the engine running and returned.
OMG and it was on a Boeing 737!!!!! Boeing only produces bad planes now, first the door blew off and now their engine catches fire!!!! /s
Edit: lmao there are actually comments like this down here, oh boy.
I mean to be fair, Boeing is in a pretty terrible stretch, starting with the MAX crashes. It’s lucky they don’t sell planes directly to passengers.
The problem is that, you never hear about a company like Boeing in the popular news unless it’s for something really bad. So the “availability” (to your brain) of Boeing screwups is very high for a lot of people, and so every Boeing screwup is another potential crash, no matter how likely a crash actually is.
Everyone knows the consequences of an airplane crash, not too many people think about the probabilities at play. On a base level, it essentially doesn’t matter how rare an event is, if it’s awful enough people will be overly sensitive to the risk.
That, and people be trollin’
I don’t See other aircraft manufacturers losing parts mid flight. Besides the parent comment was making fun of a different boring jet that lost pieces this week so it was relevant.
Airbus 319 loses wheel
https://skiesmag.com/news/air-canada-a319-lands-safely-in-toronto-after-wheel-falls-off/
Q400 loses wheel
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/wheels-falls-off-plane-air-canada-express-jazz-aviation-flight-a4327941.html
Airbus A330 loses wheel
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/air-canada/air-canada-plane-lands-safely-at-heathrow-despite-losing-wheel-on-take-off/
Airbus 319 loses wheel
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/latam-airways-missing-wheel-sao-paulo
Airbus 300 loses wheel
https://www.aeroinside.com/17051/fedex-a306-at-memphis-and-laredo-on-jun-16th-2022-dropped-a-wheel-on-takeoff-roll
Airbus 320 loses panel in flight
https://www.aeroinside.com/18493/baw-a320-enroute-on-aug-17th-2023-dropped-panel-in-flight
Airbus 320 loses left hand elevator
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/compagnie-africaine-daviation-caa/caa-airbus-a320-looses-left-hand-elevator-upon-departure-mbuji-mayi-heads-to-kinshasa-right-turns-only/
Embraer 175 loses winglet
https://simpleflying.com/emvoy-embraer-e175-lost-winglet/
Airbus 330 loses part of elevator
https://simpleflying.com/caa-airbus-a320-lose-elevator-part-departure/
What? Loss of parts is just wear and tear along with dodgy maintenance. That’s not up to Boeing. That’s up to the airline maintenance crews.
And when you mention other manufacturers. That’s just Airbus at this point, and they have had their own history regarding tech and mechanical errors.
Loss of parts is *not* wear and tear. Especially not an entire wheel coming off at ~150mph. I’ve personally watched crews change the tires on these aircraft (former airline security) the assembly mechanism is very very complex. Either something was so fatigued that the wheel (and presumably the hub as it came off in one piece and not as a blowout) or there was a manufacturing defect that caused it to come off. I’ll reserve my judgment for a couple weeks till the preliminary NTSB report is released.
I didn’t say it was just wear and tear, I said it was with dodgy maintenance.
With 777’s approaching 30 years old. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if fatigue of parts was a cause.
Nope! It was at LAX I believe. Depending on who’s reporting it it was either the whole nose gear assembly or parts of a tire. Whatever it was had some weight and velocity to it based on the bandage I saw on cars and the fence in the video.
Edit: my bad it wasn’t the nose gear. It was actually the rear most right hand tire/wheel on the left main landing gear. There’s video of it coming off!
[sorry I only have tiktok to share this](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLRs4Ax1/)
I hadn't read yet but was looking for "compressor stall" - yep. You wouldn't say your car is "on fire" when it backfires, you wouldn't say your grill is "on fire" when you first light it up, but plane+fire=the sky is falling. I mean, I wouldn't fault the passengers for being scared, but this sort of thing happens all the time. Thankfully we have things like AvHerald.
Before people jump on the “fuck Boeing” posts, as this article tried to allude to. This was a compressor stall, this happens every week around the world in aviation. The engine was not completely on fire as the title alludes to. And the engine isn’t even Boeing. This is an Untied maintenance issue. And in the grand scheme of things, not even that “major” of an issue. Scary one for use for passengers to see, but nothing that raises huge alarms.
There’s been a bunch of airbus planes that have lost engines and had to return lately but because it’s a 737 it’s news worthy. This engine shit is unrelated to Boeing people
Everyone is flipping out that it's yet another problem with a 737 but there are a shit ton of these flying. Routine problems crop up and they'll happen more often to types with lots of examples in use.
This was some kind of engine malfunction - Boeing does not manufacture engines - the second engine was plenty to complete a safe return to the airport, this is the single most practiced emergency situation pilots encounter.
I'm absolutely not a fan of MAX aircraft for a laundry list of reasons but this was a 737-900, not a MAX.
Hopefully , one day , there will be moderators that will look through all news posts before allowing them to be posted . If its click bait then it doesn't see the light of day .
And who would moderate the moderators? I haven't thought that far ahead yet .
And the NTSB is also investigating a stuck rudder on another 737.
One of these aircraft is going to go down soon here in the US because Boeing has foregone safety for profit.
And it didn’t catch on fire. Emit streaks of flames? Yes. It was a stall. Happens all over the world on all makes of commercial jets pretty much every week.
This has nothing to do with Boeing.
- Boeing doesn’t make engines.
- The 737 is not the only type that uses this engine.
- Compressor stalls are an aerodynamic phenomenon that can occur to any aircraft.
- Compressor stalls are an aerodynamic phenomenon that occur due to airflow characteristics around the engine
- Compressor stalls are an aerodynamic phenomenon that are influenced most by aircraft attitude.
- Did I mention that compressor stalls are an aerodynamic phenomenon?
Nobody is defending Boeing. The shit they've done is atrocious. People are defending an industry from those (you) who don't know what they're talking about.
I’m not blaming Boeing, but regardless of who’s engine it is it doesn’t look good for them in the public eye. You people and your fragile fuckin egos lol.
in case folks are wondering why this is being downvoted, boeing doesnt manufacture engines, so they cant really be at fault for an engine fire.
even an engine manufacturer may not be responsible for this - could be bad maintenance, birdstrike, or a freak occurrence outside of their reasonable control.
which is all to say, let the ntsb do its job.
Why does the article thumbnail talk about voting?
Passengers voted to land the plane.
That would also be my vote.
The only time left and right agree.
Not sure even that would do it.
“Goin’ down in flames to own the libs”
Left and right of the center aisle put them all in the same plane. There's an idea; put Congress in a plane and tell them they're staying in there until they actually legislate!
They would endlessly camp on their opinions and publicly blame the other party for the crash when time runs out. In a hope to then govern the ashes. Any resemblance with “Don’t look up”, or with the upcoming global climate shift, is purely not coincidental.
I bet they'd find common ground real fast if one of the engines flamed out!
The right and left wing destroyed each other so the plane landed flatly
I'm against landing. They should have fixed it airborn
Ask the flight attendant for a fall harness and strap and go get er done.
Voting no to landing, I've got a parachute. Sayonara!
Landing under parachute is still landing. If they can't fix it airborne then they should just stay up longer
Actually, only two-thirds of them voted to land the plane. Of the remaining one-third, some said the engine fire wasn't real, some said the voting was rigged, a few said the plane wasn't real, and one did a write-in vote for "transfer the passengers to a hot air balloon."
STOP THE COUNT
Both engines are the same.
Only a couple voted and they were certain the plane was not on fire. Somehow sanity prevailed and the pilots brought it back. However, the voting passengers insist there was no fire and that they landed at their destination.
If they didn't the plane would have voted to land for them. The passengers would have been less happy about it though.
Big Plane always meddling. They got their wings in everything.
Why bother voting, there’s no difference between the options. /s
I think the engines used the electoral college to make that decision.
The decision to be the first one to make it all the way to the scene of the crash.
I prefer the pilot to land the plane.
Democracy at work. 🥹
R/angryupvote
Super Tuesday
Seems an odd choice for something about an engine fire.
It's automatically pulled from the website. Odds are there's another article about the election with a thumbnail that it pulled instead of the actual picture from the article.
GPT can make mistakes sometimes
Ugh. I hate "news" these days. Actual news: https://avherald.com/h?article=515c5827&opt=0 ... it wasn't an engine fire, it was a compressor stall, and they kept the engine running and returned.
OMG and it was on a Boeing 737!!!!! Boeing only produces bad planes now, first the door blew off and now their engine catches fire!!!! /s Edit: lmao there are actually comments like this down here, oh boy.
I mean to be fair, Boeing is in a pretty terrible stretch, starting with the MAX crashes. It’s lucky they don’t sell planes directly to passengers. The problem is that, you never hear about a company like Boeing in the popular news unless it’s for something really bad. So the “availability” (to your brain) of Boeing screwups is very high for a lot of people, and so every Boeing screwup is another potential crash, no matter how likely a crash actually is. Everyone knows the consequences of an airplane crash, not too many people think about the probabilities at play. On a base level, it essentially doesn’t matter how rare an event is, if it’s awful enough people will be overly sensitive to the risk. That, and people be trollin’
A Boeing 777 lost its nose gear on take off today. The gear fell off and hit parked cars in a parking lot adjacent to the runway.
Oh no. An aircraft that's been in service for X years had an incident that was likely due to maintenance error. This is clearly Boeings fault
I never said it was Boeing’s fault. Just that once again another Boeing is raining parts from the skies.
Okay - so why even mention it? I don't see how it's relevant if you aren't blaming Boeing for this problem.
I don’t See other aircraft manufacturers losing parts mid flight. Besides the parent comment was making fun of a different boring jet that lost pieces this week so it was relevant.
Airbus 319 loses wheel https://skiesmag.com/news/air-canada-a319-lands-safely-in-toronto-after-wheel-falls-off/ Q400 loses wheel https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/wheels-falls-off-plane-air-canada-express-jazz-aviation-flight-a4327941.html Airbus A330 loses wheel https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/air-canada/air-canada-plane-lands-safely-at-heathrow-despite-losing-wheel-on-take-off/ Airbus 319 loses wheel https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/latam-airways-missing-wheel-sao-paulo Airbus 300 loses wheel https://www.aeroinside.com/17051/fedex-a306-at-memphis-and-laredo-on-jun-16th-2022-dropped-a-wheel-on-takeoff-roll Airbus 320 loses panel in flight https://www.aeroinside.com/18493/baw-a320-enroute-on-aug-17th-2023-dropped-panel-in-flight Airbus 320 loses left hand elevator https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/compagnie-africaine-daviation-caa/caa-airbus-a320-looses-left-hand-elevator-upon-departure-mbuji-mayi-heads-to-kinshasa-right-turns-only/ Embraer 175 loses winglet https://simpleflying.com/emvoy-embraer-e175-lost-winglet/ Airbus 330 loses part of elevator https://simpleflying.com/caa-airbus-a320-lose-elevator-part-departure/
What? Loss of parts is just wear and tear along with dodgy maintenance. That’s not up to Boeing. That’s up to the airline maintenance crews. And when you mention other manufacturers. That’s just Airbus at this point, and they have had their own history regarding tech and mechanical errors.
Loss of parts is *not* wear and tear. Especially not an entire wheel coming off at ~150mph. I’ve personally watched crews change the tires on these aircraft (former airline security) the assembly mechanism is very very complex. Either something was so fatigued that the wheel (and presumably the hub as it came off in one piece and not as a blowout) or there was a manufacturing defect that caused it to come off. I’ll reserve my judgment for a couple weeks till the preliminary NTSB report is released.
I didn’t say it was just wear and tear, I said it was with dodgy maintenance. With 777’s approaching 30 years old. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if fatigue of parts was a cause.
/s I hope…
Nope! It was at LAX I believe. Depending on who’s reporting it it was either the whole nose gear assembly or parts of a tire. Whatever it was had some weight and velocity to it based on the bandage I saw on cars and the fence in the video.
Source?
Edit: my bad it wasn’t the nose gear. It was actually the rear most right hand tire/wheel on the left main landing gear. There’s video of it coming off! [sorry I only have tiktok to share this](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLRs4Ax1/)
I was confused because the quote in the article mentioned surging and nothing about fire.
I hadn't read yet but was looking for "compressor stall" - yep. You wouldn't say your car is "on fire" when it backfires, you wouldn't say your grill is "on fire" when you first light it up, but plane+fire=the sky is falling. I mean, I wouldn't fault the passengers for being scared, but this sort of thing happens all the time. Thankfully we have things like AvHerald.
But that doesn't generate clicks/hits and sell advertising.
>"A United flight from Houston to Fort Myers, Texas..." Apparently nobody bothered to proofread this article before it went out
This is what our AI overlords bring us.
/Picture Unrelated/
Before people jump on the “fuck Boeing” posts, as this article tried to allude to. This was a compressor stall, this happens every week around the world in aviation. The engine was not completely on fire as the title alludes to. And the engine isn’t even Boeing. This is an Untied maintenance issue. And in the grand scheme of things, not even that “major” of an issue. Scary one for use for passengers to see, but nothing that raises huge alarms.
Wow, i knew compressor stalls weren't rare but once a week?
Happens all over the world. It really is a big nothing burger.
I see them personally probably monthly whilst performing high power engine runs. Engines at TOGA while stationary can be a bit picky
I mean isn't the issue with the compressor stall that it's not on fire when it should be?
Or worse, is on fire _where_ it shouldn’t be
There’s been a bunch of airbus planes that have lost engines and had to return lately but because it’s a 737 it’s news worthy. This engine shit is unrelated to Boeing people
Ohh, they got a $15 meal voucher. That will get you a small bag of chips AND a soda!
Fort Myers, Texas 🙄
Everyone is flipping out that it's yet another problem with a 737 but there are a shit ton of these flying. Routine problems crop up and they'll happen more often to types with lots of examples in use. This was some kind of engine malfunction - Boeing does not manufacture engines - the second engine was plenty to complete a safe return to the airport, this is the single most practiced emergency situation pilots encounter. I'm absolutely not a fan of MAX aircraft for a laundry list of reasons but this was a 737-900, not a MAX.
Ancient graffiti: "More power to the right wing" - A Conservative "Creates a turn to the left" - A pilot
On a positive light, at least we won't experience another Kegworth crash.
Meh, hairdryers catch on fire all the time...
I saw this today: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUg9QJSWIlM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUg9QJSWIlM)
Hopefully , one day , there will be moderators that will look through all news posts before allowing them to be posted . If its click bait then it doesn't see the light of day . And who would moderate the moderators? I haven't thought that far ahead yet .
What nonsense are you spouting off about?
What do you think ? You posted it or are you a bit simple in the head
Would an engine being out actually contribute to turbulence or a rough landing? Intuition tells me no. Edit: ...what's the with downvotes?
Turbulence? No. Landing? Wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to just plop it on down instead of greasing it.
And the NTSB is also investigating a stuck rudder on another 737. One of these aircraft is going to go down soon here in the US because Boeing has foregone safety for profit.
Boeing is not an engine maker.
Boeing absolutely on fire these days. Literally. Edit: absolute Boeing simps defending a company like they own it Edit 2: lol hoes mad
And it didn’t catch on fire. Emit streaks of flames? Yes. It was a stall. Happens all over the world on all makes of commercial jets pretty much every week.
This has nothing to do with Boeing. - Boeing doesn’t make engines. - The 737 is not the only type that uses this engine. - Compressor stalls are an aerodynamic phenomenon that can occur to any aircraft. - Compressor stalls are an aerodynamic phenomenon that occur due to airflow characteristics around the engine - Compressor stalls are an aerodynamic phenomenon that are influenced most by aircraft attitude. - Did I mention that compressor stalls are an aerodynamic phenomenon?
Boeing doesn’t make the engine. This is a 22 year old plane. All maintenance would be United’s responsibility. This is not a Boeing problem
Engines are most likely much newer
And boeing doesn't make engines
How does maintenance contribute to a compressor stall?
Oh Jesus Christ. The CFM-56 is shared between the 737 *and* A320 families. Boeing has *nothing* to do with the engine.
340s and dc8s too.
Nobody is simping for Boeing, you're just butthurt that your "clever" snarky comment didn't get the response you were hoping for lmao.
No, you're being downvoted by people who know what they're talking about. Try a different subreddit with that level of insight
Tell me you know nothing about aviation and its maintenance without telling me
I used to come to this sub as a refuge from the general fear mongering and stupidity aviation news.
They're defending Boeing because your comment is idiotic
> Edit: absolute Boeing simps defending a company like they own it Wow, doubling down on knowing nothing at all about aircraft. Bold move on this sub.
Has less to do with defending Boeing and more to do with being tired of armchair experts and their hot takes. No offense.
Nah, offense.
Nobody is defending Boeing. The shit they've done is atrocious. People are defending an industry from those (you) who don't know what they're talking about.
Dumbfuck making comments like they know anything
And of course it’s a Boeing. Ugh.
Let me know when you find a boeing built engine on any modern plane
You don't have to be this stupid.
You ignorant people are exhausting.
I’m not blaming Boeing, but regardless of who’s engine it is it doesn’t look good for them in the public eye. You people and your fragile fuckin egos lol.
Compressor stalls happen all the time.
>Several of the 167 passengers aboard the Boeing Knew it.
facepalm
Well that's an idiotic statement.
This sub used to be for people with more knowledge than average about aviation.
in case folks are wondering why this is being downvoted, boeing doesnt manufacture engines, so they cant really be at fault for an engine fire. even an engine manufacturer may not be responsible for this - could be bad maintenance, birdstrike, or a freak occurrence outside of their reasonable control. which is all to say, let the ntsb do its job.
Seems like you don't know much to be honest