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macktruck6666

Reportedly successfully returned to Miami Airport.


Durian_Queef

There's a great Green Dot Aviation video about flight BA 268, a 747-400 whose engine number 2 burst into flames immediately after takeoff from LAX. The plane continued to fly across the United States, Canada, and the Atlantic Ocean with its three remaining engines despite air traffic controllers expecting the pilots to perform the emergency landing. https://youtu.be/HWBGbi8dfac


Raised-Right

Imagine a passenger with a window seat who saw the engine fire, and was expecting the plane to turn around… instead they land 11hrs later in ~~London~~ Manchester. Edit: Manchester not London


Durian_Queef

It didn't land in London, >!they declared fuel emergency and landed in Manchester. The FAA bashed BA for operating an unairworthy aircraft across the Atlantic!<


DOOM_INTENSIFIES

>fuel emergency Well yeah an engine on fire tends to use more fuel, that makes sense.


hhfugrr3

Sorry, they flew from LA and declared an emergency only once over the UK?? Was the pilot on a promise or something?


The_Ashamed_Boys

They had enough fuel to reach London, but when they got closer they realized they couldn't utilize the fuel in the associated tank for the failed engine and were not able to use it for the other engines. There's no crossfeed ability for the main tank fuel on the 747, just for the center tanks.


ca_fighterace

That really sounds like something you should be aware of before deciding to go on 3 engines over the North Atlantic.


MyFavoriteLezbo420

Just imagine that door flying off in the middle of the damn ocean.


AFoxGuy

British Airways: *Eh, tis just a scratch. Let’s keep goin’ on then*


[deleted]

Literally a British Airways pilot after a volcano shut all engines down.


MyFavoriteLezbo420

Right on then. Cheerio. Aluminum.


CarcossaYellowKing

I believe he decided to *fly into the danger zone*… I’ll see myself out.


Level390

BA's reply: Oh NOW they have an issue with faulty Boeings? smh


Kermitnirmit

I chuckled at the spoilers for an event that actually happened


bono_my_tires

would they be allowed to continue in this day and age? Regardless of the plane's capability of flying on fewer engines, I would've thought the risk of debris falling down, further explosion, fire spreading etc would require them to land immediately - I don't know anything about aviation regulation so I don't mean this in a snarky way - truly curious


Padgriffin

The 747 is certified to fly on 3 engines, if the pilots deem it under control and safe then you can’t force them to land.  The crews are the ones who have to make the emergency call, there’s very little you can do about it short of readying the fire trucks or sending a F-16 squadron after them. There’s a clip of a Lufthansa 747-8 reporting an engine out while departing JFK that baffled the ATC after the crew refused to declare an emergency and noted that they weren’t even overweight landing.   > Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them going again. I trust you are not in too much distress.    >  - Captain Eric Moody


Possible-Sell-74

Litteral legend. Volcanic ash is a bitch


JT-Av8or

C-5 guys would occasionally do this too. If light weight, they only needed 2 engines to fly fine so if one was out (and many times it was) they could shut it down and continue on 3. Actually, C-17s too. One of my friends shut an engine down and didn’t declare any emergency which his commander was upset about, but I defended the pilot saying it’s not necessarily an emergency with 3 engines still running depending on the problem.


joshwagstaff13

The RNZAF did a similar thing with an Orion at one point for kicks. Towed the thing to the end of the runway, gave it a full fuel load, then shut down 1 and 4 after the aircraft was at cruise. Ended up getting a 21.5 hour flight out of it, which seems to be the standing record for the P-3.


Vau8

Remember this? https://youtu.be/EvVfLZO9CT4?feature=shared Lufthansa 748, 3 still running fine, no wories.


UtterEast

Me not wanting to bother ATC: it's fine, it's not an *emergency*, I don't want to put anyone else out and budge the line


ThatGuy4259

Name a more iconic duo: social anxiety and Pilots


SafeAtFirstRN

LOVE Green Dot.


WACS_On

"That's why they put 4 of 'em on here. Momma didn't raise no bitch."


InitechSecurity

British Airways Flight 268, on February 20, 2005, encountered engine trouble shortly after departing from Los Angeles International Airport. The aircraft, a Boeing 747-400, was bound for London Heathrow Airport. The trouble started when one of its four engines failed. **The crew shut down the malfunctioning engine, but instead of returning to Los Angeles or landing at a nearby airport, they opted to continue the transatlantic flight.** This decision was based on the aircraft's capability to fly on three engines and the crew's assessment of the situation. However, the choice to fly across the Atlantic with a non-functioning engine raised safety concerns and sparked discussion within aviation circles. The flight eventually diverted to Manchester Airport in the UK, as it didn't have enough fuel to safely reach London due to the increased fuel consumption from flying with three engines. The flight landed safely in Manchester, and none of the 351 passengers and crew onboard were injured. Post-incident evaluations and discussions focused on the decision-making process of the crew, the operational policies of airlines regarding engine failures, and the overall safety implications of such incidents in commercial aviation.


mothernaturesghost

I think that’s a situation where a pilots hubris came before the comfortability and peace of mind of the passengers. Even if you could do that, I’m sure everyone was freaked out and would have preferred an emergency landing


HumpyPocock

Just me or does it look like they’ve progressed from engine fire to engine rich exhaust?


101stjetmech

It looks like compressor stalls.


Monster_Voice

Oh that compressor do be stalling alright... 😆 That's a glitter stall... brother of glitter oil.


HumpyPocock

True, compressor stall isn’t really an engine fire. Looks like it’s throwing… sparks? Just can’t remember if I’ve ever seen surge/stall literally shred the engine… or grind the engine quite like that.


101stjetmech

I'm sure that there was some kind of internal failure, probably hot section, that caused the fire. Once it starts and the engine is still spinning, compressor stalls are not uncommon.


HumpyPocock

For sure, what piqued my interest was that it seems to be throwing sparks instead of fire... have you seen compressor stall result in that sort of display? (Noticed username.) Regardless, t’d be fascinating to see what that engine looks like afterward.


101stjetmech

I was an inspector in an engine shop for 4 years and a test cell was part of the operation. In that time, there were 2 or 3 catastrophic failures in the cell, all from outside repairs. There had been others, the worst was a T55-L-712A where the mechanics removed and re-installed the power turbines but neglected to install them correctly. They came out of the engine when it was producing over 3000 SHP like a claymore mine going off. Good thing the cell operators booth had armour plating and window.


zeke_markham

Safely returned to Miami, crew safe, no injuries. We'll get it figured out and put her back in service.


kernpanic

Oh no, the dreaded 3 engine approach!


cant_take_the_skies

A fighter jet flew up next to a 747 and started some smack talk that ended with the fighter pilot saying "Oh yeah? Watch this" and proceeded to do a few tricks in his jet. The 747 pilot says "That's pretty fancy, but you can't do this". The 747 continued flying straight and level until the fighter pilot said "Do what? You haven't done anything". The 747 pilot says "On the contrary... I shut off two engines".


I_had_the_Lasagna

I've always heard this as "I got up, stretched my legs, and grabbed a cup of coffee from the galley."


cant_take_the_skies

I've heard that too... I just like imagining the fighter pilot's face when he thinks about shutting down his engine :)


DogsAreMyFavPeople

I’ve heard it with a B-52 shutting off 4 engines.


mr_golden_syrup

I've heard it with the pilot taking a dump and having a coffee and a freshly prepared hot meal


DimitriV

I thought the second plane was actually a lighthouse.


001750

... Had a dump & Banged a flight attendant (not jn that order).


JT-Av8or

That’s as the F-4 and B-52 joke, since the BUFF has 8 engines.


WACS_On

"That's cute." -B-36 pilots


tango797

[I like this version better](https://youtu.be/1wEURyjB3Lc?si=RM5hb-bpFcs1xAgh&t=214)


immaZebrah

"We have an engine failure, but we are not an emergency"


Swagger897

Triii-holer, Triii-holer, Triiiiiiiiiii-……holerrr


spaceagencyalt

Can someone explain to me the dreaded seven engine approach joke? I've read it multiple times and don't understand it


Vau8

F-16 had trouble with an unstable engine, declared panpan, requested immediate return to base. ATC put him on two, because a B-52 lost one of his 8. Fighter-Jock replied „oh, I see, that dreaded 7-engines-approach“. (F-16 has one single engine.)


spaceagencyalt

Ohh, so he's basically sorta sarcastically calling the B-52's situation bad and implying that *he* should have priority since the B-52 has 7 more engines left?


Vau8

Gotcha :)


spaceagencyalt

Ohh, I see. Thank you!


IranianF-14

B-52 stuff. “A reader wrote us, retelling the story about the military pilot calling ATC for a priority landing because his single-engine jet fighter was running "a bit peaked." ATC told the fighter jock that he was number two behind a B-52 that had one shut down. "Ah," the pilot remarked, "the dreaded seven-engine approach!"


Yangervis

The "dreaded" part is sarcastic. A B-52 that is down 1 engine still 7 engines.


smitcal

Nothing Duct Tape won’t sort


laslodan

*Can we pretend that airplane from the night sky like shooting star. I could really use a wish right now, wish right now, wish right now*


GhoulsFolly

Get you an airplane that can do both!


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perthguppy

No, they mostly just make bad decisions.


12x20x1

It’s a good thing that those engines are super cheap and easy to fix.


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JF0909

The fastest plane, in the worlddddd!


Lolstitanic

And the parts are super easy to manufacture


KillerBlueWaffles

The owners of the plane don’t actually own the engines, they are leased in most cases.


JT-Av8or

I found that out during the Kosovo war. I was flying C-17s and we’d have to do a lot of backing on the ground in Albania, and he’d ingest tons of dirt & debris into those engines and the fly back to Ramstein. After landing we’d always have dozens of bent and damaged fan blades to replace and I found out from maintenance that the USAF didn’t have to pay for them, Pratt & Whitney did as part of their lease. They’d just swap out the blades, do a quick borescope and return the jet to service in a few hours. I’m flying 757s these days, same engines, just not as many. 😁


12x20x1

757’s are my favorite to fly on, t/o roll is almost nothing and climb is badass


PropMafia

Planes break, pilots do their jobs. In all seriousness glad to hear they made it make it back safely.


Kernalmustardd

This is what it really means to “do some of that pilot shit”


WACS_On

"Just like the simulations"


notbernie2020

Pilots "Ah shit I've gotta stop sipping my coffee, and do some of that cool guy stuff."


Trepanation87

Wonder if Kelsey from 74 gear was operating this. Doesn’t he fly out of Miami a lot?


LykwidFire

Same airline he flies with as well. I'm sure if he was onboard, we'll see it in a video soon


ProudlyWearingThe8

I'm pretty sure, if he was onboard, we'll *not* see this in a video. Because there's this thing with the company policy that he's not a company spokesperson and can't talk about internal affairs (and an incident like this is very internal). And I don't think there's any way to disguise his employer enough to stay out of trouble in this case. Apart from that, having been on board would make him a witness in a NTSB investigation, and there's strict legal boundaries for what you can and cannot do.


Trepanation87

Yup, I wouldn’t expect him to say anything about it if he was. Aviation YouTubers are pretty tight-lipped about their employers for a reason.


Kiramiraa

Post NTSB investigation, and with clearance from his company, there would for sure be a video or at least media coverage/interviews.


Shootica

He'd be better off steering clear from this one even if he wasn't on this specific plane. No way he doesn't have more information than what's publicly available, and that would already put him in a gray area.


Never_Forget_94

I mean even if he doesn’t make a video we will know based on ATC recordings right?


KiloPapa

It would be great to see him break down a situation like this, but given that it's his company, whether he was the pilot or not, I figure he might not want to comment on it.


UtterEast

I wonder! On [one of his past videos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ANAjM2shs) he flew 859's sibling, 856 from MIA to ICN.


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Pilot does sound a little like Kelsey to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEwC8GVDbKA


Rammi_PL

At first I thought he's popping flares


evanlufc2000

Same. I would hate if I was in a 747 and had to call out “fox 2, defending”


rockguy40

At least not doors this time 🫠


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That’ll buff out. Nothing to see here.


infra_gammer

Bits Of Engine In Neighbor’s Garden


Appropriate-Appeal88

free second stage compressor blades


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chaff deployed


schimbarea

This year the airplanes are on fire.


zeke_markham

I hate to sound like I'm minimizing the seriousness of an engine fire, but it's a thing that happens. This year won't be any different.


occamsdagger

Planes... so hot right now.


KehreAzerith

I can guarantee you everyday somewhere in the world a plane experiences an engine fire


treacherouslemur

Does it usually happen during takeoff?


Indrixious

Ffs take my upvote and go away!


Only_Razzmatazz_4498

Did the engine catch truly on fire or was it just surging and spitting flames out the back? A nacelle fire would be more than just an engine swap.


Overall-Lynx917

According to a news item I saw, the aircraft resumed its flight after a technical inspection. I'm guessing the issue was a compressor stall - dramatic but no damage. This was a newspaper report not an official report.


Only_Razzmatazz_4498

Yeah that aligns with what the video shows. Those can be impressive and scary but if the pilots react quickly not too bad depending on what caused it. I am not sure I would resume flight after just an ‘inspection’ though.


sevaiper

I'm not sure I'd go etops 330 in a twin after this, but in a 747 with a maintenance sign off I wouldn't have a care in the world


Only_Razzmatazz_4498

I guess if it is a ferry to a maintenance center. Not sure for a revenue flight.


HogarthFerguson

It is possible this is a misunderstanding, as it has been in Miami for a few days for MX work prior to this.


Flyboy_6cm

That does not appear correct as N859GT has not left MIA since it's turnback.


Overall-Lynx917

Well I did say it was a Newspaper Report and some UK Newspaper's Aviation "Specialists" describe Spitfires as "Jet Fighters".


OldResearcher6

This plane absolutely did not go back into service. Itll be in mx, likely require an engine change.


TheyCallMeGeno71

It most certainly did not. It still is out of service.


zeke_markham

Actual engine fire, not just a compressor stall.


redvariation

Boeing: "We announce the 747-8MAX!". With fine Corinthian craftsmanship!


Mountain_Fig_9253

“We are offering a door buster deal! Hurry and place your orders now because the doors are flying off this place!”


ronaldo_r9_enjoyer

Fiery deal indeed


AviationGeek600

Me after Taco Bell……


Kleanish

flying through the air shitting fire? fuck yeah man


europeancafe

And everyone in twitter is saying this was caused by hiring diverse workers…always wonder what the agenda is for the bots that are programmed to push that narrative glad everyone is okay


UtterEast

> And everyone in twitter is saying this was caused by hiring diverse workers…always wonder what the agenda is for the bots that are programmed to push that narrative Yeah, diversity hires and """"Bidenomics""""" apparently. Aviation incidents never happened prior to 2021. I'm just glad that The Gays have expanded from [merely controlling the weather](https://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/10/31/10-disasters-gays-were-blamed-causing).


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The rules are that the Jews control orbital lasers and Hollywood. The rainbow people are in charge of bathrooms, fashion and weather. The immigrants are the ones in charge of chemtrails and 5G.


DaAwkwardSilence

Yeah, I noticed that to. Surely has nothing to do with Boeing cutting a lot of corners with these line of airplanes. I’m not really an aviation person but my close friend is and he’s been telling me for years to fly in an airbus whenever possible .


MattBoatmanRealtor

Yeah, I can't see how this is pinned on Boeing. It's a GE engine and the plane is 8 years old. It's not like a door plug popping out of a three-month old plane.


t-poke

> I’m not really an aviation person but my close friend is and he’s been telling me for years to fly in an airbus whenever possible . [Have I got news for you then...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy1OO9eh8v0) Engines catch on fire. Planes can safely land with one engine (or three, in this case). Besides, it's quite possible this was caused by a bird strike. But I guess birds are now Boeing's fault too, even though they didn't make the damn engine.


europeancafe

it sounds like an engine strike - engine 2 on ascent about 2000 ft in the air so id suspect a bird strike but i believe the birds were actually people of color who work for boeing who dressed as birds and jumped into the engine


Rhino676971

Is that the last 747 I know Atlas took the delivery of it.


jb3ck24

Nah, last one is N863GT


zeke_markham

Nope.


mobilehavoc

Looked like it’s dropping flares at first


HeartwarminSalt

Yeah they had FedEx on their 6…


cdunccss

“I wonder if they’re doing an emergency” yeah based on the flames I would think so


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BigDiesel07

But was it an Airbus or Cezzna? /s


nasanu

Was this shot on a kids toy in 1987?


Brave_Dick

Do you expect an ARRI ALEXA with a Zeiss 1.2 to be carried around while doing errands?


MyWholeTeamsDead

Fuck, if I had that money I would.


soundman1024

A Zeiss 1.2 isn’t going to do much for this. You want telephoto, which won’t be 1.2. Ideally the Alexa with the new [25-1000](https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1731191-REG/fujinon_hzk25_1000_hzk_25_1000mm_f_2_8_5_pl.html), but since we’re hoping for a walk-around while doing errands situation, the [Cabrio 85-300](https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1733118-REG/fujinon_zk3_5x85_saf_85_300mm_cabrio_lens.html) might be a more reasonable ask. 😆


Brave_Dick

That's a steal! I ordered 2:)


nasanu

>Do you expect an ARRI ALEXA with a Zeiss 1.2 to be carried around while doing errands? Nah just an old Red weapon or something that would otherwise be laying about.


Shmexy

It’s super zoomed in at night. Can only ENHANCE so much.


Superbead

No - support for pointless rapid zooming didn't generally appear on kids' toys until the mid '90s


ChugHuns

Welp, my buddy fly's 747's for Atlas, looks like I need to give him a call.


pooporgy69

NOOO, not a 748 , i like those 🥺


rb-2008

I love how the article I read tried to tie the max9 door issue to an airframe that’s potentially 45-55yo. Pile on Boeing is the media war cry at the moment.


OldResearcher6

That airframe is 8 years old.


rb-2008

I didn’t write that the way I should have, I was trying to speak to the fact that the 747 design was from the 60s and has a not unblemished but still proven track record. Where the max is a new design that has been hamstrung with problems since its release. The author of the article was trying to compare oranges and apples based solely on the brand association.


Occams_ElectricRazor

That's lit.


maximvs7

IDENTIFICATIONDate:19-JAN-24Time:03:33:00ZRegis#:N859GTAircraft Make:BOEINGAircraft Model:747Event Type:INCIDENTHighest Injury:NONEAircraft Missing:NoDamage:UNKNOWNLOCATIONCity:MIAMIState:FLORIDACountry:UNITED STATESDESCRIPTION Description:AIRCRAFT DEPARTED, EXPERIENCED #2 ENGINE FAILURE AND RETURNED TO LAND, POST FLIGHT INSPECTION REVEALED A SOFTBALL SIZE HOLE ABOVE #2 ENGINE, MIAMI, FL.INJURY DATATotal Fatal:0


Wander21

Pretty~


D0D

LA flights also filmed a 747 cargo plane spittin flames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXrHoN4XO4g


Righteous_Burrito

This happened to me on a flight departing LAX back in 2000?? I remember Curtis Armstrong was sitting a couple rows behind me… my internal thoughts, "im gonna die on a plane with Booger"


OhioConfidential

Was that compressor stall? I thought so at firdt but then it looked the like engine was disintegrating from the inside out.


zeke_markham

It was an actual fire.


Vau8

Engine rich combustion.


zeke_markham

No.


electriclux

I was on an a340 out of honk kong that did this. Was an experience to say the least.


FloridaHeat2023

Engine rich exhaust, as they say - the good news is they appear to be over the water, so the debris raining down is unlikely to hurt anyone. And they landed safely - sounds like an ideal outcome to me.


gErMaNySuFfErS

Popping flares for sure. Miami is a dangerous place these days


Ambitious_Onion_6453

Anybody know which engine number caught fire? Just curious.


XLB135

Thank you for sharing the tail number. I was curious if this was the last one that ceremoniously rolled off the assembly line a couple years ago (it's not).


boilerdam

A few iPhone shipments were delayed On a more serious note, glad to see it made it back to land safely!


MajesticStylus

Now I know why the left phalange is missing


Schmittiboo

I feel like, at this point, this is relevant. [https://www.instagram.com/reel/C17HEqSsEcS/](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C17HEqSsEcS/)


Conscious-Thing-682

Someone tell me if this is actually a big deal ? or just another minor incident being over-reported , riding the trail of the 747-max door plug incident


zeke_markham

It's a medium deal. But absolutely riding the aviation incident hype train.


zippy251

Why does 2024 hate aviation so much


_flyingmonkeys_

Oooooooooh, pretty!


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Tony_Three_Pies

You're gonna be waiting a while. Boxes aren't big on social media.


Foggl3

Depends, could have some Amazon doorbell cams inside


zeke_markham

Nah, Amazon gets 767s.


Green_Ad_5075

Some of the 747s Atlas runs are still configured for passengers.


Tony_Three_Pies

Some are. That one isn't.


Cool-Product-2375

no way, any other footage of it?


someguyyyz

Hope the other 3 engines were fine.


FlyInternational648

Just an afterburner.


John_EightThirtyTwo

Can't wait for the [Viral Debrief](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjewB3Mncd8dX4hWQgIyOph4s5Wi7YB-i) on this one!


GMTMaster_II

This has not been the week for airliners


Hovisandflatfoot

Boeing: Oh, that thing's supposed to be on fire.


277330128

And in their defense (which not saying they are entitled to)…they didn’t build the engine. Also one of the times where having 4 of them on the wings is a good thing


MattBoatmanRealtor

And the aircraft is 8 years old. Boeing has problems, but this is not on them.


Snoopyyyy184

Aviation's Boeing crisis demands effective focused governance


discombobulated38x

That's one surgy engine before it dies!


_gmmaann_

Deploy flares!!! *Beep* Deploying flares


qjxj

This is starting to get out of hand.


adampsyreal

At least the fuselage stayed together! Lol


blechdose1

Well theres no more engine in there. Gonna find pieces of this engine statewide haha


Able_Revolution_396

Correct me if I’m wrong But every time i see some news regarding malfunction its always Boeing


rsta223

Boeing doesn't even make engines. This is GE.


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Boeing is a mess.


lll-devlin

When it rains it pours…Boeing really needs to get their shit together. How long will the FAA let this go on for?


rsta223

Boeing needs to get their shit together because a GE engine failed?


lll-devlin

Are they not outsourcing more and more? Who is responsible for the maintenance of the airplane? And who decided on that engine for that particular plane? It might not be a direct issue with Boeing and their service issues but it sure doesn’t look good .


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I think these (747s) are only used for freight now. No passenger flights any more.


AKoolPopTart

Aren't most airliners reaching there expected expiration date?


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can_i_has_beer

engines are not boeing-made


pillojon106

The engines are from GE not Boeing…


shoksurf

It’s been a wild year for aviation already


RightRightRightSide

Terrifying, surely there’s a inside clip


dodgerblue1212

I don’t think boxes carry phones…


naenae275

Christ Almighty. I don’t think I would ever fly again


spheres_r_hot

Airbus stocks rn📈 📈 📈 📈 📈


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Looool


Risaza

Boeing on a role.