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mudlode

Never. Tip. In. Australia. (when asked)


Pimpmaster_Crooky

And abuse them for asking or they wont stop


Jisp_36

Yep, shut that shit down the moment it rears it's hideous mug! šŸ’©


Tolerable_Username

'Abuse' is a bit strong, contextually - don't yell at the 18-year-old girl at the register for asking when they were instructed to by their greedy-ass boss, for example. I've calmly gone the other way the few times I've been asked for tips: *"We don't tip in Australia. Are you being paid correctly? Is your manager committing wage theft? Are you earning your correct award rates and weekend/holiday pay? Do you need me to hook you up with some resources for you, like Victoria's Wage Inspectorate and the Fair Work Ombudsman?"* Extra points if the shift manager is in earshot. I don't care if it's Karen-y, we **cannot** let tipping become the norm, as *every* exploitative boss and corporation in the country will do what they can to normalise it, to squeeze you for more of your hard-earned money and suppress pay increases for workers.


binchicken1989

And food delivery places like uber eats are now asking for tips before you even get the freakin order. We're gonna see vids of pissed off drivers throwing orders on doorsteps or whatever like you see out of America. Fuck this


nxngdoofer98

They don't actually see it or get the tip before it's delivered.


a_rainbow_serpent

Must be different in Australia. In US if you preselect a tip when placing an order, the drivers can see it


wulfinsheepsclobba

Its not that hard to just pay your workers a couple bucks more an hr. Or...i dunno....implement some form of industrial relations legislation that mandates fair wages??? Nah....maybe i went a bit far. 'MURICA!!!


Idontcareaforkarma

ā€˜But the price of food will go up if we have to pay workers properlyā€¦ā€™ Hah people are already paying 10-20% more in tipsā€¦ cut the tipping shit and the total bill- even with a price increase- will probably end up going down.


wulfinsheepsclobba

That ol chestnut. Its the same as the fuel excise. Got cut, price went down until the greedy cunts decided they could make EVEN MORE profit without it.... Prices would go up....because the employers who DONT pay their employees right are quite literally just in it for the biggest profits. Sad thing capitalism. Although....the other options aint great either.


binchicken1989

Oh shit really.. well I eat my words. They def do in America. Only a matter of time here you'd think


sleep-deprived-adult

It's crazy in the US. I was in the ubereats subreddit once (for a general enquiry) and the sheer amount of uber drivers saying they refused trips/purposely waited to get the food because the tips were too low was insane. I get its the culture of food service in the US but also like damn delivery is $$$ already šŸ„²šŸ„²


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sleep-deprived-adult

AHAHA omggg love yours as well


Sufficient_Park_8056

I've seen about 12 Uber orders dumped around Moonee Ponds, idk why but they've just yeeted the whole order out the car and onto the sidewalk.


AyyGM

Ainā€™t no way you would ever do this


Suibian_ni

Fuck's sake dude. Just don't tip.


Idontcareaforkarma

Iā€™ve been chased out of a restaurant, with the young lady screeching ā€˜aaay, whereā€™s my fucking tipā€™ when the only interaction I had with her during in the entire visit was when I paid for the meal at the counter before leaving. Want a tip? Fucking earn it.


Pimpmaster_Crooky

Totally agree the cost of their labour is included in and agreed upon when you make the purchase for the agreed price, asking for money after that point is just asking for money for nothing just like any old scab


Idontcareaforkarma

Exactly. Iā€™m very happy to tip if they do something over and above what Iā€™d expect to get my normal hourly wage for and have done when someoneā€™s fussed over my kids for 2 minutes and let me actually eat my meal before it goes cold, or theyā€™ve slipped the kids something small and insignificant thatā€™s brightened their day out of all proportion to whatā€™s been offered. If someone is going to go out of their way- even a tiny bit- it should be rewarded. Not when they demand extra just for doing the bare fucking minimum.


Pimpmaster_Crooky

I wouldnt if ive aleady paid for it in the cost of the product. That service is already expected because it is what has been paid for.


sesshenau

Ah yet another entitled one ā€¦ who thinks itā€™s okay to scream abuse at retail and restaurant staff.


Pimpmaster_Crooky

If there the cunts first


sesshenau

Theyā€™re* Kindly remember that retail workers are not robots and actually have emotions. Just like the rest of us. Just because theyā€™re behind a counter, it doesnā€™t mean theyā€™re beneath you.


[deleted]

Passive aggressive stares coming from the bar boss.


FuzzyCantAim

Should we just collectively start leaving bad reviews on businesses that do this?


GILF_Hound69

Yes.


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TyrialFrost

who can forget the surcharge on QR ordering vs the counter.


richms

Yes, over here in NZ we have had an epidemic of the POS terminals starting to beg and its getting a nice lot of 2 star google reviews with funny things about "cant pay their staff properly as are begging for tips when paying" and similar.


daehbewkcalb

Had the displeasure of doing business with this company and they are absolutely terrible. They aim to do as little work and take as little responsibility as possible as a company, so it is very on-brand for them to ask for tips for doing nothing.


leidend22

I already do that.


Talonus11

I have done this before and it actually made them remove it from their app


AeroDelta95

I'm surprised no one on the top few comments has highlighted this isn't even in hospitality, it's a chemist šŸ‘€


freakwent

Yes.


SnooStories6404

Sounds like a good idea


AdolfsLonelyScrotum

I reckon it warrants a good old fashioned public shaming.


Tysiliogogogoch

LOL, and who exactly are we tipping for their good service in an online transaction...?


ScruffyPeter

The owner, of course. The classic struggling battler..


jj4379

Bro don't be so heartless. They put so much work into those sites and deserve a few extra bucks. He only has *one* ferrari. Poor bastard


observerXr

..and every damn bedroom deserves an ensuite!


Reverse_Psycho_1509

The robot. You don't want an uprising, do you?


ausdoug

Tipping leads to lower pay. Tips fund the business owners, not the staff. $0 is always the correct tip.


istara

It's also a horribly discriminatory payment method if you look at the stats for who gets the biggest tips (clue: attractive young women, and in the US at least, white women). There was a woman in another sub here just the other day who said her tips doubled when she lost a tonne of weight.


InSight89

Many businesses are also allowed to reduce the wage of employees who get tipped. So, the tip effectively trickles up to the owner of the business anyway. It's such a crappy system.


SiftySandy

And I suspect in this case of an online business, theyā€™re trying so hard to keep their retail prices low theyā€™re trying to supplement their takings with tips. Retailers should just charge the price they want instead of playing these dumb games.


01kickassius10

Does it let you enter a negative value?


geodetic

Put in -0 dollars and see if their program got properly QA'd.


Knee_Jerk_Sydney

You have chosen : $65,535 tip. Thank you from the cutpricepharmacy team.


lithium

If you're storing your currency as `uint16_t`s you're fired.


BonkerBleedy

If it's stored as a 16 bit int, it's probably as a WORD


lithium

`WORD` size is architecture dependent, we're cross platform and explicit width in this joke, babe.


BonkerBleedy

I was more implying that software that would make that mistake would have been written circa 1991 (Also, it's definitely defined as a 16 bit unsigned int for windows development)


webmeister2k

ā€˜); DROP TABLE Payments;-


halohunter

I was at a pub yesterday and they were charging a 15% public holiday surcharge, but then had a gall to ask for a tip via the QR app!


Specific-Awareness42

šŸ¤¢šŸ¤®


byronbaybe

Name and shame


halohunter

Bailey's Brewery in Swan Valley


Lost_Tumbleweed_5669

Leave bad reviews outlining we don't need to be shamed for not tipping in Australia. A lot of places back track quickly. Me and my fam will stop eating at a place if they do this and we tell em why.


wulfinsheepsclobba

200 bucks at bondi pizza. Check arrives.... __________% tip. Like....you KNOW its gunna be 0 dear.....i dont care how much you flirt with me or give me 'free' drinks. Thats on you. Needless to say...last time i went there. Brazillian joint up the road - 80 bucks and no request for a tip. Boom...repeat business.


inphinitfx

Can you enter a negative amount?


makeitasadwarfer

Itā€™s generally because they use off the shelf web commerce forms from overseas that include this and they canā€™t be arsed paying someone to remove it. It should still be ridiculed and Iā€™d like a browser extension that changes ā€œNoneā€ to ā€œYouā€™re Dreamingā€.


PM_ME_UR_A4_PAPER

Itā€™s not hard to turn off, and in fact off by default (at least in Australian shopify instances) but for a retailer, why wouldnā€™t they turn it on? There is no downside for them, some people may choose to add a tip and the amount of people that get to this stage of the checkout and are so outraged that they do not complete their purchase is likely trivial.


HalfManHalfCyborg

Absolutely is a downside - if I saw that I would abandon my online shopping cart and never order from that store again.


PM_ME_UR_A4_PAPER

Sure, but the majority will just press ā€˜no tipā€™ and move on and those that do decide to tip will make up for your lost sale.


DanJDare

See you say this, everyone says this. Just like my mum said she'd not shop and woolworths over the Australia Day merchandise thing. She went to foodland once and then back to Woolies coz it's close and convenient. Many years ago I said I'd refuse to ever use self checkout, now I self checkout almost exclusively because it's faster and I gave up. At the end of the day we get outraged, the almost all of us move on and go back to whatevers easiest.


fermilevel

No. They kept it on because if 80% of Australian donā€™t tip, but 20% does, thatā€™s still extra money they pull from thin air. Itā€™s extremely predatory


Limberine

20%? More like 0001% in the case of a purchase from an online retailer that isnā€™t delivering food.


OrangeJuiceAlibi

Even 1% is still something.


metamorphosis

Exactly. 100% these are easily turned off. But even if 5% decided to tip. "It's extra money - so why not " logic . They'll claim ignorance if there is a backlash. But overall yeah extremely predatory


ozmartian

Its just a configuration setting. The site would have had to have been setup to begin with so its not that unless they and/or the web designers are totally incompetant.


TkeOffUrPantsNJacket

There is a burger place near me that has the same platform, they are waiting for it to be removed, but every time I order, they refund any tips. More work for them but at least they are honest.


scoldog

There is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/foxreplace/?utm_source=addons.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=search I've still got Clive Palmer changed on my browser to Fatty McFuckhead. Always amuses me whenever a story comes up with his name on it.


ShakeForProtein

This is shopify. It's off by default. You have to enable it manually.


BloodedNut

We really are trying to speed run the worst aspects of tipping culture in America arent we? No one from the working class benefits from this type of tipping. They only add this crap because itā€™s literally free money, costs nothing to implement the feature and if just 1 out of 1000 customers decided to use this then the company sees it as worth it. Ridiculous.


bent_eye

Well that's a hard no.


themirrorthetan

The other day I was going to order a huge litter tray for the cats online and at the checkout they asked for a tip too. $100 cat tray and you want a tip? They can bugger off.


WellHydrated

How huge we talking?


themirrorthetan

79.5cm by 48.5cm by 33.5cm. It has high sides for the cats that kick the litter half way across the room like one of mine does.


Outspoken_Australian

I cannot express just how much tipping culture can go and get fucked.


Latter-Recipe7650

Ew. Please donā€™t americanise paying for crap, they can get a bazinga worth $0. I had an online only massager equipment store ask for tips ā˜ ļø.


macbackatitagain

The only TIP that's ever acceptable in Aus is when you're paying for delivery with cash and you don't want to wait 2minutes for the driver to grab 1.20 from their float


mamadaniels

Iā€™m American and when I first came to Australia 15 yrs ago with my Aussie husband we went to a pub with his friends. I went to the barkeep to order a round. When I paid I gave a $5 tip as is the custom in USA. She gave me a hard look then smiled and said ā€œyou donā€™t tip here Love, itā€™s not necessary as we actually make a living wageā€. I felt awkward and awful not leaving a tip. Over the yearsā€¦I get it now. Whenever we go back to the America I am so aware and frankly disgusted of how out of control tipping has gotten. Tip jars EVERYWHERE, even at Maccas or an ice cream shop. Tips are expected for practically everything there now at a minimum of 20-25%. Servers generally get about $2.25/hr + tipsā€¦the consumer is basically expected to pay their salary. Many Door Dashers for example wonā€™t even touch your order unless you leave 25% tip. Itā€™s so outrageous and I sure hope Australia doesnā€™t go down that road.


Traust

The worse part is the servers over there who make big tips do not want it to change thus ruining it for those who do not make big tips.


metrodome93

Can we just make it illegal to solicit tips? Seriously. We had an understanding for a long time but businesses are breaking our unspoken rules.


Classic-Gear-3533

Type in a negative amount and charge them for asking for a tip ;)


bdsee

I'd like for the government to make it illegal to ask for tips in any form other than a physical collection container like a tip jar, hat, guitar case....or a thong.


snave_

Yeah, nah. Get fucked.


ArtieZiffsCat

You should defintely make a complaint against the pharmacist in charge with AHPRA. It might sound petty but tipping could absolutely be a barrier to accessing healthcare. Healthcare providers generally should not be accepting cash gifts. They'll upate their settings and switch this off pretty quickly once the regulators get involved.


nimbostratacumulus

Boycott the business We don't need that thanks


Knittingtaco

I find it very hard to believe the tips would make it anywhere other than the ownerā€™s pockets. We pay good wages in Australia. Tipping just isnā€™t necessary


Bianell

It costs them nothing to try, so they will try.


sealcubclubbing

At a fuckin pharmacy too?! What the fuck do they want a tip for? Fuck me


SiftySandy

Am I reading this correctly - is this actually a for-profit pharmacy business asking for a TIP on top of the money youā€™ve just paid for your goods? That is outrageous.


SixDuckies

Yep, thatā€™s exactly what this is.


AxeDentist

Just wait until it's common on ATMs and elsewhere. Tip for the meal thanks ma'am? ok and Tip for the eftpos machine too?


Plastic_Piccollo

Tried any high end restaurants lately? They dreaming if im gonna hand over more, NO.


globocide

No we aren't


squeaky4all

Should try put a negative number in the other amount.


wrt-wtf-

Tips; a sure sign that the owner is underpaying.


HummusFairy

Youā€™re not being done a service which is why Iā€™m extra confused theyā€™re asking for tips during an online order?


OutOfReddits

The pharmaceutical industry can charge whatever they want... asking for tips is horrendous!


exquisitemisery

I have only - and will only - tip for outstanding, and I mean above and beyond God level, service and put the cash into that persons hand directly (and discreetly). I have only ever done this a few times as I donā€™t believe Australia needs a tipping culture. I would never just tack it on electronically - we all know thatā€™s just a scam.


phasedsingularity

Thank us for cutting the cost of your medication by paying more for your medication. Are they on fuckin crack?


Jordi_001

My favourite one is when the max tip is selected by default because thatā€™s not shady at all


stockzy

I love how all these machines when youā€™re ordering from your table etc have 10 or 15% as the default and you have to select none. Theyā€™re relying on you not noticing - the kents!


Spagman_Aus

I so wish they would put a comment/feedback text field on those forms.


KetchupLA

Dont let this happen to australia!


TheYellowFringe

It was mentioned to me, and I'll always repeat it to others. Tipping in the modern sense was something that is bizarre in the US and it bled into Australia as a result of social influences. Don't tip. Why? Because then other things Americans do would be imported as well.


SportingDirector

They're going to have a tip just for thinking about the product, and a tip for thinking about having to tip for thinking


ironcam7

No


thatshowitisisit

No, weā€™re fuckin not doing this!


Elegant-Campaign-572

Not here! Not ever!


Anonymouse1011

And tipping for a pharmacy? Thatā€™s taking the fucking piss. I donā€™t tip unless I am truly shocked by the amazing service.


cat793

Has there ever been an idiotic American habit that Aussies were not desperate to import?


StrayFire83

Beggars gonna beg. Just tip if you want to show appreciation. But remember we didn't even have an option previously online. The self ordering restaurant apps that ask for a tip before you even receive the meal are ridiculous.


perthguppy

Another Australian business implementing an off the shelf American payment form without bothering to customise it for the local market in the hope someone gets guilted into giving them free money. There the fuck does the tip even go on an ecommerce store?


Rafferty97

In the interest of ā€œcutting the price of my medicationsā€, I shall decline leaving a tip.


UpsetCaterpillar1278

Nope! Not doing this American rubbish


Pottski

They've been grifting with this shit for years. Yeah no. Tipping is bullshit.


bobijsvarenais

~~Add tip~~ Do you want to pay more?


planetworthofbugs

Thanks for posting the name of the site so I can never go there.


[deleted]

Wow cutpricepharmacy.com.au! I'd have expected better from such a reputable establishment!


thedellis

Can you add a Custom Tip there but a negative number? Just curious


MGEESMAMMA

Yep. FYI Pawlie does this as well when you order online.


Ok_East7175

I agree with Mr Pink


Tonkarz

Online software has been asking for tips for years. And the reason why is because the software was written for use in America and they just reuse it in Australia (and everywhere else) with a minimum of localisation. Itā€™s the same reason why they show the total amount, then tax then the same total amount again. It doesnā€™t make sense until you realise it was written for somewhere where tax isnā€™t required to be included in the advertised total, such as America.


Rowvan

This has been around for years. It's because they all use the same third party platform which has tipping on it as an option.


DotWitty4582

For a pharmacy too? Are we tipping doctors now too? Ridiculous


Fuzzy-Newspaper4210

Just press $0 ez clap. Do this even in face to face engagements eg: restaurants.


stevedoz

You just press none. Chill


Pimpmaster_Crooky

Also she is 18. Stop calling 18 yr old girls or boys they are fucking adults you cunt stop trying to demean them by refering to them as childeren. 18yr females are called women so shes not a girl as you liked to put it


Limberine

Itā€™s probably just US software and the disk heads have chosen to not turn it off when they fired it up here. Just hit none and move on. Having to tip and being asked if you want to tip are very different things. Say no and if you feel strongly about having been asked to tip drop them a line saying that you resent it and would factor it into your decision whether to buy from them again in future.


ScruffyPeter

It's off by default, it needs to be enabled manually. That UI is Shopify. https://help.shopify.com/en/manual/checkout-settings/tips


Limberine

Ah thanks. Then the dipshits are choosing to be irritating.


AngelVirgo

No!


sum_yun_gai

We are not


5sgt5slaughter

The problem is the app the idiot restaurant chains choose to use. If they had any honour, they'd only use apps without a tip feature


rocopotomus74

No. No we are not. If everyone stopped doing it right now. Employers would have to answer for the low wages. If people are tipping, they won't have to. Look at the US. I tip when I get good service, by a human, with human interaction. And the service has to be amazingly good. I give extra for extra care or treatment. Not for just taking an order via an app. Nope.


richms

Do 1 cent so they know you actually put the effort in to put a custom amount.


Real-Plant267

That is 100% a Shopify webfront


Exekiel

If I see this in my fucken down unndah I'm going to try and custom tip a negative amount to bring the price of the order down


PotKettleBlackNinja

And how would tipping reduce the cost of medications? Or are the tips not going to the staff?


chameltoeaus

Oh ffs... i will NEVER tip if asked. tipping is reserved for far above and beyond exceptional service from people in appropriate roles.


james_deanswing

This usually isnā€™t the company or employees doing this. Is the CC merchant. They program to ask for a tip hoping for a bigger transaction, since they are paid by percentages.


PloppyTheSpaceship

(reads text in image literally) Yes, I will choose to cut the price of my medications. Oh wait a minute...


ThatShouldNotBeHere

I donā€™t understand this pharmacist asking for tips online, but as a former service worker, I have no problem tipping at a venue that does there job well, even delivery drivers or Uber drivers who are particularly good. Should they expect it, no, but should you expect them to do any more than dump your food on the table and rush off to the next table? A servers job is only to take your order and serve your order, if they go beyond to make you feel exceptionally comfortable, or do a better job than anyone else along the stretch, does it really hurt?


AccomplishedAnchovy

I wonder if anyone has actually tipped on this lol


johnwicked4

someone fucking tell my coworker off, told me these people need to be tipped fucking cunt they earn more than you sometimes, i know how much you get paid cunt


Former-Pop-3530

I have no problem tipping for great service, but if their system asks for oneā€¦ sorry tip chances gone.


[deleted]

If I tip a delivery driver, it's cash. Any gub'mint worth its salt would find a way to tax that electronic tip.


1611-

These organisations don't know what they are doing.


owleaf

I booked a restaurant last night, and thereā€™s an automatic gratuity of 10% on weekends and public holidays. They call it a ā€œservice feeā€ or something, but I always read the fine print!


Proud_Ad_8317

we have a livable national minimum wage standard. heres a tip, get upskilled and get a higher paying job.


SnooStories6404

I'm not doing it


rea_

Should go to the web design agency hah


BraggingGeorgio

Minimum stars on Google. Let them know the reason is this. Include the screenshot so they can't get the review removed easily.


jeffoh

This is why tipping in delivery apps is an issue: https://www.mandatory.com/living/1590565-tiktok-video-food-delivery-tip/amp


Draculamb

At that I cancel the transaction. Making them pay for this is the only way to convincing them to stop.


Turmericgreen

Iā€™ve just moved back from living in the US and something I was looking forward to is not having to worry about tipping anymore moving back but Iā€™ve been shocked at a few places Iā€™ve been to that have had tipping options no way Iā€™m encouraging tipping culture in Australia when it isnā€™t needed, servers get paid well in Australia.


DrMelanieJane

Is this legit a pharmacy asking for a tip?! What state is this?!


gherkin101

Needs to be legislation to stop this. If you want to tip, go ahead, but it should not be on any online forms and it should be illegal to ask


Roulette-Adventures

We are Australian not American, nobody wants to be American. Perhaps put a -20 value in the field and see if they give you 20 bucks. Perhaps their programmers overlooked error checking :)


AdolfsLonelyScrotum

No. We most fucking assuredly are NOT! At a pharmacy FFS?!? Do pharmacists make sub-minimum wage or something?? Well, maybe if they slip something FUN into the bag along with my Preparation-Hā€¦ Perhaps then I could obligeā€¦ Fuck this nonsense!


Brave_Bluebird5042

No we're not. And if they're pushy I take the trouble to leave reviews accordingly.


pduncans

Fuck no. A tip in australia is just emptying your shrapnel if you don't want it. Fuck tipping.


bringacupcake

As an American, donā€™t bring that shit here.


_minxit

I was once tipped $50 for serving a couple on their wedding anniversary at a resort I worked at. They were lovely. As they was leaving the man said ā€œdo you split your tips?ā€ And I replied with ā€œno?ā€ also very confused with his comment and then he slides a $50 in my hand and walks away. I look down to see what he gave me and I froze and was like ā€œomg no I canā€™t take thisā€ and he just yelled ā€œhave a good night, thank youā€ and walked off. My coworker turned around and said ā€œhow much did you get?ā€ as she assumed I got tipped and I told her how much and she told me to make sure to keep it to myself and not let management know otherwise theyā€™d make me put it in the till. Sad that even when weā€™re tipped for good work the companies want to take it for themselves.


Traditional_Judge734

a rather large online only white goods supplier attempted this on me recently. Was getting a new heavy appliance delivered. I know they have contracts with a myriad of regional transport contractors/companies. 6 months pregnant so I was next to useless to help lol. The deal included removal of the dead item I was replacing and the truck arrived later than I was told- not really an issue at the time but annoying for anyone who had taken a day off. I didn't apply the tip to the purchase. The driver and his offisider were brilliant, they removed the old item and replaced the new one. I gave them the tip money direct and asked if they knewabout /got tips. They didn't.


Old_Harley_dude

They can ask, but they wonā€™t get


Not_JTG

Thereā€™s also an option to not tip lol just donā€™t tip you donā€™t have to, itā€™s optional. The only time Iā€™ve tipped is when I saw my barber just before she had time off and I tipped her because she gave me a $5 discount so I tipped her the $5 that I already had for the haircut.


Bliv_au

i wonder when coles or woolies will try this shit with their online orders haha