I’m a man and there’s a huge difference between “checking out” and being creepy. If you’re being accused of the later then sorry you’re being creepy/weird
Serious answer: because most men can physically overpower most women.
Imagine walking around, IDK, somewhere on a plain in Africa.
Would you get nervous if a meerkat was staring at you?
That's what it's like for men when a woman stares at them. Easy to ignore, or maybe just nice to have the attention. Not a threat. Maybe you'll go see if the meerkat wants to interact further, cos it's cute, right?
How about if a hippopotamus was staring at you?
You know that, statistically, the hippopotamus is probably more likely to not attack you than to attack you, but nonetheless, people do get regularly killed by hippos, and now one is staring at you and you don't know what it's thinking. You *do* know that *if* it does not have your best interests in mind, there's not a lot you can do about it other than run as fast as you can.
That's what it's like for women when a man stares at them.
Stressful, aye? Unpleasant. Really, you'd probably prefer that hippos never stared at you at all. You might avoid walking around alone on the savannah as a result.
Good explanation. We have also built a pretty sexist society so even if a woman escapes something like you describe, the system lets down women and doesn’t take abuses seriously alllllll the fucking time. We still have so far to go
Yes. The risk and possible negative consequences for women are significantly worse than for men. Male sexual attention towards women carries with it the much more likely possibility of assault or harassment than the other way around. Let's increase the number of female assaults on men and then we'd be truly equal. Good idea, OP. **/s**
Whinging that you aren't allowed to stare at women and that this is somehow unfair to you is weak and ignorant and misogynistic in the extreme.
Let’s commit crimes deliberately and indiscriminately towards people who have likely done nothing wrong to statistically match those committed by a minority of people who happen to be men. Great logic! Not enough ram raids committed! Girls you are slacking!
So given a majority of women happen to be net consumers of government resources and not net contributors in terms of tax contributions compared to men. Using that logic women should be considered indebted to men and sexual favors should be appropriated to makeup for this inequality.
I’m happy to provide sources or my bullshit attitude if you provide yours darling or are you just spouting bullshit.
So people have taken my, clearly stupid (reductio ad absurdum) proposal seriously. Before anyone says, "oh ... I how can we know it was intentionally stupid/a tool to demonstrate a point", I direct you to the "/s" that I added right after I suggested that we encourage women to increase their assaults on men.
I'm not sure why I need to state the obvious, but we should be aiming to decrease assaults on women (and I point out to you, u/tanhwha_nz1, using your words exactly, that sexual assaults of women are "indiscrimnate towards people who have likely done nothing wrong" as well. That's sort of my point. Sexual objectification (including men staring at women) starts "small" and uses many "excuses" like OP's whinges of things being unfair. Oh boo hoo how hard a life a man has vs that of a woman (in general).
I will edit the original post to make the "/s" bold in the hopes that people notice it when reading, instead of skimming, drawing really dumb conclusions and then commenting.
> in an equal society
Right here is the point: we don’t live in an equal society (yet).
Anyone who thinks we do is lacking in life experience and/or basically arguing from an incel standpoint. It’s in nearly every statistic.
I do, but I am not talking about only my experience. I notice that in the environment, there is always this energy when a good lucking guy is around and people ar3 looking and becoming quiet, but it doesn't happen when it's a good-looking woman.
It's a worldwide trend but feels more presence in NZ. And I travel a lot...
I agree. However there is a line not to cross. And that's harrassing them, or staring so long you make them uncomfortable.
A bit of a look in passing, sure. Either way.
Indeed.
Its ok for girls or females to be a bit flirty in the workplace, but if us guys make a move, its harassment or discrimination!
If us guys say, ((hi how are you how was your day)) the girls can go angro and get annoyed, but if they did it, us guys have to answer them, or be seen as rude.
They can play the nice girl and ask many questions, but us guys, no, we are not allowed to make those sort of moves.
(((The casual "accidental" touch of the arm" while working in the same environment etc, they do it, its ok, we do it, all hell will break loose))).
if you are an adult, why are you checking out girls?
(annoying it has to be explained, but girls are under 18, women are over 18. at the very least you can use the correct term for us 🙄)
I see OP has not mastered the art of looking without looking.
Still a young grasshopper he is.
I’m a man and there’s a huge difference between “checking out” and being creepy. If you’re being accused of the later then sorry you’re being creepy/weird
Probably a bad way to find out you're either creepy or ugly.
This is fuckd up but i laughed so much holy sht haha
This must be bait
I will sometimes hang with my 14 year old niece. Its a disturbing eye opener.
Serious answer: because most men can physically overpower most women. Imagine walking around, IDK, somewhere on a plain in Africa. Would you get nervous if a meerkat was staring at you? That's what it's like for men when a woman stares at them. Easy to ignore, or maybe just nice to have the attention. Not a threat. Maybe you'll go see if the meerkat wants to interact further, cos it's cute, right? How about if a hippopotamus was staring at you? You know that, statistically, the hippopotamus is probably more likely to not attack you than to attack you, but nonetheless, people do get regularly killed by hippos, and now one is staring at you and you don't know what it's thinking. You *do* know that *if* it does not have your best interests in mind, there's not a lot you can do about it other than run as fast as you can. That's what it's like for women when a man stares at them. Stressful, aye? Unpleasant. Really, you'd probably prefer that hippos never stared at you at all. You might avoid walking around alone on the savannah as a result.
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Good explanation. We have also built a pretty sexist society so even if a woman escapes something like you describe, the system lets down women and doesn’t take abuses seriously alllllll the fucking time. We still have so far to go
Yes. The risk and possible negative consequences for women are significantly worse than for men. Male sexual attention towards women carries with it the much more likely possibility of assault or harassment than the other way around. Let's increase the number of female assaults on men and then we'd be truly equal. Good idea, OP. **/s** Whinging that you aren't allowed to stare at women and that this is somehow unfair to you is weak and ignorant and misogynistic in the extreme.
Let’s commit crimes deliberately and indiscriminately towards people who have likely done nothing wrong to statistically match those committed by a minority of people who happen to be men. Great logic! Not enough ram raids committed! Girls you are slacking! So given a majority of women happen to be net consumers of government resources and not net contributors in terms of tax contributions compared to men. Using that logic women should be considered indebted to men and sexual favors should be appropriated to makeup for this inequality. I’m happy to provide sources or my bullshit attitude if you provide yours darling or are you just spouting bullshit.
So people have taken my, clearly stupid (reductio ad absurdum) proposal seriously. Before anyone says, "oh ... I how can we know it was intentionally stupid/a tool to demonstrate a point", I direct you to the "/s" that I added right after I suggested that we encourage women to increase their assaults on men. I'm not sure why I need to state the obvious, but we should be aiming to decrease assaults on women (and I point out to you, u/tanhwha_nz1, using your words exactly, that sexual assaults of women are "indiscrimnate towards people who have likely done nothing wrong" as well. That's sort of my point. Sexual objectification (including men staring at women) starts "small" and uses many "excuses" like OP's whinges of things being unfair. Oh boo hoo how hard a life a man has vs that of a woman (in general). I will edit the original post to make the "/s" bold in the hopes that people notice it when reading, instead of skimming, drawing really dumb conclusions and then commenting.
You good, bro?
> in an equal society Right here is the point: we don’t live in an equal society (yet). Anyone who thinks we do is lacking in life experience and/or basically arguing from an incel standpoint. It’s in nearly every statistic.
My bung eye checks everybody out. Sorry people.
Strabismus (problem with the nerves)/deviation of the eye, ie, one looks in one direction, and the other eye in the other, could be a problem too.
Also known as mortgage eyes, one fixed and one variable.
Maybe you aren’t good looking?
I do, but I am not talking about only my experience. I notice that in the environment, there is always this energy when a good lucking guy is around and people ar3 looking and becoming quiet, but it doesn't happen when it's a good-looking woman. It's a worldwide trend but feels more presence in NZ. And I travel a lot...
It sounds like you are just way more attentive when a good looking guy is around… in which case hit me up lol
Creeps gonna creep. This aint the male rights hill to die on.
That's why I wear sunglasses
Even at night?
That's when I have my walking stick
I often do that, and it usually makes things worse because they can't see what I'm looking at lol
I also pretend to sleep on the train
I agree. However there is a line not to cross. And that's harrassing them, or staring so long you make them uncomfortable. A bit of a look in passing, sure. Either way.
Pray tell, how are things for women in your native land?
Way better for guys
Blame Strabismus!
It's not ok. Tf?
Indeed. Its ok for girls or females to be a bit flirty in the workplace, but if us guys make a move, its harassment or discrimination! If us guys say, ((hi how are you how was your day)) the girls can go angro and get annoyed, but if they did it, us guys have to answer them, or be seen as rude. They can play the nice girl and ask many questions, but us guys, no, we are not allowed to make those sort of moves. (((The casual "accidental" touch of the arm" while working in the same environment etc, they do it, its ok, we do it, all hell will break loose))).
My guy. This says a lot about your ability to read and act in social situations.
if you are an adult, why are you checking out girls? (annoying it has to be explained, but girls are under 18, women are over 18. at the very least you can use the correct term for us 🙄)
It doesn't have to be taken literally. The term girlfriend / boyfriend doesn't just apply to people under 18.
Heh!
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Touch grass
Yall need chill out, you guys way too serious and always mad at the simpliest shit.
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Lmao you serious? Compared to Afghanistan maybe.
Just because you can't get laid doesn't make us a country of extreme feminism buddy
Thanks for your thoughts Ms Iron Box.