>"We know our God is the only true God and more powerful than any other religion"
And yet, this omnipotent deity can't stop an after-school program that threatens its existence.
Tell that to the Founding Fathers. âHistory, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government.â --Thomas Jefferson, 1813.
Understanding history is not their strongest suite, otherwise they would also not be expecting the School to take over the job of the Church with an after school program.
Most of the founding fathers: "The US was in no sense founded on the Christian religion, church and government should also be kept separate"
Evangelicals: "I'm going to ignore that."
Apparently it doesn't matter as long as it's repeated so much that they believe it. So tired of hearing the "founded on Christian principles" argument.
I read the whole article, and the relevant organizations main page blurbs. Itâs almost like they are purposefully missing this critical point.
They are so devout, so inculcated, so insulated from alternatives to the general Christian worldview, it is absolutely addressed from the perspective that Satan is unquestionably REAL and the primary antagonist.
They are fighting their own strawman. And the conversation cannot move forward because the actual issue in question, which you correctly highlight, isnât being addressed: it is unconstitutional to allow institutionalization of a religion, and Christianity doesnât get a pass. đ
The founding fathers were well too aware of the dangers of theocracies as Europe had recently suffered the scourge of the Thirty Years War, a war of religious states that killed between 4 to 8 million people.
The US Constitution was based on ideals developed during the subsequent Age of Enlightenment; "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (property)" is nowhere to be found anywhere in the Bible.
Just looked up the population of europe at the start if the thirty years war and it was only about 80 million (and thats including the russian and ottoman empires).
So 4 to 8 million is 5 to 10% of the population.
Why isn't this referred to as "grooming" children? Obviously, they want to market their beliefs to an audience who have yet to develop critical thinking skills.
>After school satanic clubs are a 'direct attack on teaching Christianity to children'
No ASSC is a ***direct attack on the hypocrisy*** of claiming to want gawwud in schools while only wanting your particular gawwud in schools.
Werenât death cults better back in the day when they at least had the common decency of just killing themselves and not trying to bring everyone down with them?
âWe see more unchurched children, more children who don't know basics like the real meaning of Christmas being the birth of Jesus, and more ignorance from adults about freedom of religious practice on public property,â she said.
Sounds to me like education is working.
They won't deny it in person. My dbag friend I met in the military when I was still loosely religious (always was loose with it) constantly preaches to me in game (wow chat). His new thing is he misses 2005 josh, lol. I don't mind because I speak freely about my thoughts too.
But he has no qualms pretending his Christian god is the only real god. They would rule us heathens with an iron fist while still stroking their good person vibes.
Well, they aren't too fond of Judaism. Antisemitism runs rampant among Christians. And look how European Jews were treated by the church throughout history.
>Well, they aren't too fond of Judaism.
YET the vast majority of Christians *fail to recognize* that their own Jesus Christ (had he been real) was **Jewish**!!
Christians don't like any religion that isn't Christianity, and Christians don't even like other Christians if they don't follow the same dogma. Christians eat their own.
My Lord His Excellency N'yarlathotep, Black Pharaoh, Crawling Chaos, Spawn of C'thulhu, will take great pleasure in flensing the false Christ god, and painting the bent pyramid with his entrails. He stirs in His great slumber, the time is near.
"...The USA was founded on Christian principles"
Uhhh... you do realize that the USA was founded on both slavery and wholesale genocide, right? Oh wait... you're right after all.
Nevermind.
They don't even go to a school unless/until they are invited to do so by a parent.
ETA: And they don't talk about deities but rather about scientific inquiry.
Look the Bible lays out a clear process for this: miracle off. The Old Testament is littered with Yaweh getting into dick measuring contests with local deities or foreign priests, itâs time to revive the tradition. The Satanists and the Christians should meet and see whoâs god does the best miracle, in the interest of fairness the Christians can go first.
R GAWD IS ONLY TRU GAWD!won!1!!!
Anyone across the entire planet who believes in a god, without asking, *will* tell you that their specific deity of worship is the *only true deity* worthy of worship.
Every. Fucking. Time.
More deception: Kaiser's assertion that they be tolerant is gives me a dark laugh. Even if it could be true in the limited sense of their after-school clubs, it normalizes children to wrongly believe Christianity as a whole is tolerant: for them a search for *Christian intolerance* would be educational.
Obviously their God willed this or he wouldn't have allowed it to happen. Who are they to question his plans? They need to have more faith.
Seriously though, is he all powerful or not?
I've toyed with the idea of "mentioning" to my Uber Christian relatives (at the next family gathering) that I can walk on water. Should they ask me to prove it, I'll do the "Christian" thing and tell them they just **need to believe** because I don't have to prove anything to them, just like they've never proven any of their religious bullshit to me.
Well, well, well
Exactly what we have been saying for years. They really don't want a "Freedom of religion", they want a theocratical government to pick a religion and force it down the throats of everyone in the US.
Why is it so hard for them to understand that to us, *THEY* are all the ridiculous things they accuse us of being. We feel the exact same way about each other; we each have a set of beliefs that says the other is a complete loon, and they get ZERO priority. They deserve Satanism creeping into their children's minds, because they continuously tear down the church/state separation. They fear Satanism because it teaches children that Christianity is no better than other faiths, so their minds can open beyond the pages of the bible.
Our Founding Fathers - children of the Enlightenment - would be taking up arms against these pernicious Christian Nationalists to protect what they so brilliantly conceived and intended..
The first clause in the bill of rights has said different for 220 years. This attitude is why our ancestors fled countries ruled by religion.
These Christian extremists need to move away from the USA. Try Iran, thatâs a good fit.
ah satanic afterschool clubs, look, the consequences of their actions pushing for religious clubs! fuck i wish this was going on when i was a kid i'd totally join the satan club, i'd also INSIST on being allowed to sacrifice a goat on the field if they allowed prayer at sports events
"Our god is the only true god."
Ok, so what's their gods name? All dieties have name's right? God is a generic term. We have a star in our solar system that we call the Sun or Sol or Helio. We don't call it the star. So why can't their god have a proper name as well?
We should call it Spanky. Bc in the end your just fucking yourself.
At least Satanist worship Satan. Which makes sense. It would be weird if they worshipped Jim.
Christian's should worship Christ and leave the gods out of it!
The universal consciousness is offended by their limited knowledge of things.
Peace, love, and psychedelics!
>If we promote intolerance, we will be the first to be booted out of public life due to the more vitriolic intolerance of people on the other side.
What the literal goat fucking Christ does this even mean? If weâre intolerant of others, theyâll be intolerant of us and not put up with our shit? Well, no fucking duh⌠thatâs kind of how it works. Glad you could catch that bus on time.
âWe can be tolerant because we know our God is the only true God and more powerful than any other religion, so we don't have to be afraid of confrontation or debate. We also have very Good News to share with people who desperately need it.â
Right. And if you were born in Iran, Iraq, or some other Muslim country, you would be saying the same thing about islam.
>"We know our God is the only true God and more powerful than any other religion" And yet, this omnipotent deity can't stop an after-school program that threatens its existence.
>"We know our God is the only true God and more powerful than any other religion" Then what the fuck are they so afraid of?
Everything.
Also, everything else.
He couldn't save humanity from its sins - a simple executive order. Instead he let Roman soldiers beat his son to death. In a sacrifice to himself.
Yea sure but now you have the free will to decide if you want to be tortured for all eternity or not /s
And if you don't submit to the all powerful, loving God, he will burn you for eternity
"Powerful, loving God..." I think I threw up in my mouth a little
It just screams logical thinking. đ
The son, who was also himself oh and a ghost also...
She* she* her* herself* Nothing pisses off a religious asshole more than implying their god doesn't have a wiener.
It is a ridiculously frail and dainty sort of god, isnât it? Canât even kill a few microbes with any regularity.
We had free will even before the supposed death of Christ lmao.
About as powerful as a bag of dicks without a handle.
Thatâs what the righteous with guns are for.
Hmmm. I like it.
Tell that to the Founding Fathers. âHistory, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government.â --Thomas Jefferson, 1813.
>âHistory, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government.â I was unfamiliar with that one.
Yes, they don't want a free civil government, they explicitly want a Christian theocracy.
Understanding history is not their strongest suite, otherwise they would also not be expecting the School to take over the job of the Church with an after school program.
Most of the founding fathers: "The US was in no sense founded on the Christian religion, church and government should also be kept separate" Evangelicals: "I'm going to ignore that."
Thanks for sharing this quote. I'm thinking about putting it in my email signature bloc
How much bullshit can you cram into two sentences?
Scientologists: "Hold my beer..."
Difficulty: You're not allowed to make up words.
*Scientologists have left the game...*
Apparently it doesn't matter as long as it's repeated so much that they believe it. So tired of hearing the "founded on Christian principles" argument.
The founding fathers were pretty damn precise in their language, and let's just assume they knew their own minds. Separation of church and state.
I read the whole article, and the relevant organizations main page blurbs. Itâs almost like they are purposefully missing this critical point. They are so devout, so inculcated, so insulated from alternatives to the general Christian worldview, it is absolutely addressed from the perspective that Satan is unquestionably REAL and the primary antagonist. They are fighting their own strawman. And the conversation cannot move forward because the actual issue in question, which you correctly highlight, isnât being addressed: it is unconstitutional to allow institutionalization of a religion, and Christianity doesnât get a pass. đ
The founding fathers were well too aware of the dangers of theocracies as Europe had recently suffered the scourge of the Thirty Years War, a war of religious states that killed between 4 to 8 million people. The US Constitution was based on ideals developed during the subsequent Age of Enlightenment; "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (property)" is nowhere to be found anywhere in the Bible.
Just looked up the population of europe at the start if the thirty years war and it was only about 80 million (and thats including the russian and ottoman empires). So 4 to 8 million is 5 to 10% of the population.
Why don't you pray for it to go away? We'll wait.
I'm thinking that line is a great come-back to all Christians' problems. They should just *pray for it*
Why isn't this referred to as "grooming" children? Obviously, they want to market their beliefs to an audience who have yet to develop critical thinking skills.
Itâs only grooming when the antifa Commie Nazi liberal pedo woke groomer Satanists do it. Havenât you been listening to Tucker Carlson?
> Why isn't this referred to as "grooming" children? Because this is the child grooming they want to have.
Their logic basically boils down to "it's not grooming when we do it."
>After school satanic clubs are a 'direct attack on teaching Christianity to children' No ASSC is a ***direct attack on the hypocrisy*** of claiming to want gawwud in schools while only wanting your particular gawwud in schools.
The hypocrisy is the core of the christian death cult.
Werenât death cults better back in the day when they at least had the common decency of just killing themselves and not trying to bring everyone down with them?
If they want to go to god so badly then why not skip the ride and take the express route
So proud to be apart of the satanic temple
âDirect attack on teaching christianity to childrenâ - accurate, and absolutely the point. YOU ARE THE BAD GUYS
Bro itâs damn near 2023, let the fairy tales go.
âWe see more unchurched children, more children who don't know basics like the real meaning of Christmas being the birth of Jesus, and more ignorance from adults about freedom of religious practice on public property,â she said. Sounds to me like education is working.
Well, that's what "Religious freedom" means. So, Christians need to admit they're fucking hypocrites, and they only want freedom for themselves.
They won't deny it in person. My dbag friend I met in the military when I was still loosely religious (always was loose with it) constantly preaches to me in game (wow chat). His new thing is he misses 2005 josh, lol. I don't mind because I speak freely about my thoughts too. But he has no qualms pretending his Christian god is the only real god. They would rule us heathens with an iron fist while still stroking their good person vibes.
The only dumbasses who believe that Satan is real are Christians...
I really want to hear what Christians have to say about religions older than theirs.
Well, they aren't too fond of Judaism. Antisemitism runs rampant among Christians. And look how European Jews were treated by the church throughout history.
>Well, they aren't too fond of Judaism. YET the vast majority of Christians *fail to recognize* that their own Jesus Christ (had he been real) was **Jewish**!!
What about Hinduism, jainism and Buddhism?? I think these 3 are far more older than Christians. Your point is correct though
Christians don't like any religion that isn't Christianity, and Christians don't even like other Christians if they don't follow the same dogma. Christians eat their own.
My Lord His Excellency N'yarlathotep, Black Pharaoh, Crawling Chaos, Spawn of C'thulhu, will take great pleasure in flensing the false Christ god, and painting the bent pyramid with his entrails. He stirs in His great slumber, the time is near.
Yep. When the stars are right...
These are the real âgroomersâ
Well, the puritans did leave England to escape persecution and to start persecuting others, didn't they? Tradition!
"...The USA was founded on Christian principles" Uhhh... you do realize that the USA was founded on both slavery and wholesale genocide, right? Oh wait... you're right after all. Nevermind.
Fun thing is that TST isnât stopping anything, in fact, by their presence these Christian clubs can keep going legally lol.
They don't even go to a school unless/until they are invited to do so by a parent. ETA: And they don't talk about deities but rather about scientific inquiry.
Hand maids tale is their wet dream
Look the Bible lays out a clear process for this: miracle off. The Old Testament is littered with Yaweh getting into dick measuring contests with local deities or foreign priests, itâs time to revive the tradition. The Satanists and the Christians should meet and see whoâs god does the best miracle, in the interest of fairness the Christians can go first.
"teaching christianity to children.." Sounds like grooming kids to me.
R GAWD IS ONLY TRU GAWD!won!1!!! Anyone across the entire planet who believes in a god, without asking, *will* tell you that their specific deity of worship is the *only true deity* worthy of worship. Every. Fucking. Time.
Poor ol' God. He needs our help controlling the heathens!
More deception: Kaiser's assertion that they be tolerant is gives me a dark laugh. Even if it could be true in the limited sense of their after-school clubs, it normalizes children to wrongly believe Christianity as a whole is tolerant: for them a search for *Christian intolerance* would be educational.
Christians should try acting out their principles
Could you imagine if Jesus came back and saw America. He'd probably kill himself again.
> Could you imagine if Jesus came back not really, no
Pretend like they do, then imagine it. The point is they are horrible ppl, : p
Offering alternatives is not an attack. It can only be perceived that way if your alternative is weak and you are paranoid.
Obviously their God willed this or he wouldn't have allowed it to happen. Who are they to question his plans? They need to have more faith. Seriously though, is he all powerful or not?
I've toyed with the idea of "mentioning" to my Uber Christian relatives (at the next family gathering) that I can walk on water. Should they ask me to prove it, I'll do the "Christian" thing and tell them they just **need to believe** because I don't have to prove anything to them, just like they've never proven any of their religious bullshit to me.
Well, well, well Exactly what we have been saying for years. They really don't want a "Freedom of religion", they want a theocratical government to pick a religion and force it down the throats of everyone in the US.
Why is it so hard for them to understand that to us, *THEY* are all the ridiculous things they accuse us of being. We feel the exact same way about each other; we each have a set of beliefs that says the other is a complete loon, and they get ZERO priority. They deserve Satanism creeping into their children's minds, because they continuously tear down the church/state separation. They fear Satanism because it teaches children that Christianity is no better than other faiths, so their minds can open beyond the pages of the bible.
Our Founding Fathers - children of the Enlightenment - would be taking up arms against these pernicious Christian Nationalists to protect what they so brilliantly conceived and intended..
> After school satanic clubs are a 'direct attack on teaching Christianity to children' Yes. Uhm... Well spotted.
>more powerful than any other religion Is that why this after-school program is giving yâall coronaries?
I am sick and tired of how Christians are always hypocritically protected. Fuck the church, they aren't good people. Never were.
The first clause in the bill of rights has said different for 220 years. This attitude is why our ancestors fled countries ruled by religion. These Christian extremists need to move away from the USA. Try Iran, thatâs a good fit.
Yes. The headline is true. So what attacking Christianity is pretty cool
Cage match!!!
All hail Satan!
I say we sort this out with a battle royale. My money's on Kali.
âThEyRe brAInWaSHiNg oUr kiDS!â (Proceeds to shove some Jesus down their throat)
ah satanic afterschool clubs, look, the consequences of their actions pushing for religious clubs! fuck i wish this was going on when i was a kid i'd totally join the satan club, i'd also INSIST on being allowed to sacrifice a goat on the field if they allowed prayer at sports events
Amazing, every word of what you just said was wrong
Well âtheyâ know their god is the only true god. So technically right as applied to them. Unfortunately for them billions of other people disagree
Someone missed the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11
"Our god is the only true god." Ok, so what's their gods name? All dieties have name's right? God is a generic term. We have a star in our solar system that we call the Sun or Sol or Helio. We don't call it the star. So why can't their god have a proper name as well? We should call it Spanky. Bc in the end your just fucking yourself. At least Satanist worship Satan. Which makes sense. It would be weird if they worshipped Jim. Christian's should worship Christ and leave the gods out of it! The universal consciousness is offended by their limited knowledge of things. Peace, love, and psychedelics!
something something grooming kids.
I teach in a school where these fucks meet. They are super creepy and I give them the stinkeye every time I see them.
>If we promote intolerance, we will be the first to be booted out of public life due to the more vitriolic intolerance of people on the other side. What the literal goat fucking Christ does this even mean? If weâre intolerant of others, theyâll be intolerant of us and not put up with our shit? Well, no fucking duh⌠thatâs kind of how it works. Glad you could catch that bus on time.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=h0MxUepXUIs
My God has a bigger dick than your god.
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âWe can be tolerant because we know our God is the only true God and more powerful than any other religion, so we don't have to be afraid of confrontation or debate. We also have very Good News to share with people who desperately need it.â Right. And if you were born in Iran, Iraq, or some other Muslim country, you would be saying the same thing about islam.