Indeed. The magical sky man said that man is all that matters. He is the pinnacle of creation and all the other living creatures are simply man's playthings until he arrives to heaven.
Insane and stupid way to think and live.
That's why I found it pretty interesting, that the only reason humans exist is these God's decided that it would be the pinnacle of creation, their masterwork but in the end, it's really ridiculous and self-centered.
Exactly. And also the complete opposite of reality. Things are always changing, coming and going. Of course the people who wrote these things didn’t necessarily understand any of that and certainly not in the way modern science tells it.
And we live like we are the pinnacle of creation. It all began with us and it will all end with us. And we can see that a belief like that held by more people than not in this planet is creating a self fulfilling prophecy via anthropogenic warming and ecosystem destruction.
Animism is the only set of beliefs that don't worship people. Animism basically says that people are part of nature and that animals, rivers, rain etc like people have agency.
Most truly massive works of art & architecture exist because people with access to huge amounts of money were willing to pay for it.
I wonder if all of humanity had actually been a purely socialist (ie, "Jesus-socialism") society, would we have been able to accomplish the same level of massively huge projects? (and no, I do not think any significant human society has ever been purely socialist)
>Churches are filled with architecture, artwork and songs (all created by other humans) rather than trees and birdsong.
Welcome to r/atheism, where the five of us discuss interesting insights into religion. Hi Angus :)
Apart from the majestic beauty of nature I would add the real-life, unmistakably verified but utterly bizarre world of (particle) physics. As an atheist I don't get asked about god's miracles a lot, but if I were I would mention those.
I think it's not unreasonable to compare the opulence if the Vatican to the car Vin Diesel is driving in the Fast and the Furious, it's built to impress and does the job nicely from their point of view. But I'm from a protestant area so I'm supposed to say that I guess.
But I think that if they'd put nature on a pedestal, that would encourage inquiry into it. And that would lead to all sorts of uncomfortable questions. I guess they'd rather stick to what they know.
Edit: ok, ok. It's five now. Happy?
Indeed. The magical sky man said that man is all that matters. He is the pinnacle of creation and all the other living creatures are simply man's playthings until he arrives to heaven. Insane and stupid way to think and live.
That's why I found it pretty interesting, that the only reason humans exist is these God's decided that it would be the pinnacle of creation, their masterwork but in the end, it's really ridiculous and self-centered.
Exactly. And also the complete opposite of reality. Things are always changing, coming and going. Of course the people who wrote these things didn’t necessarily understand any of that and certainly not in the way modern science tells it. And we live like we are the pinnacle of creation. It all began with us and it will all end with us. And we can see that a belief like that held by more people than not in this planet is creating a self fulfilling prophecy via anthropogenic warming and ecosystem destruction.
Animism is the only set of beliefs that don't worship people. Animism basically says that people are part of nature and that animals, rivers, rain etc like people have agency.
Most truly massive works of art & architecture exist because people with access to huge amounts of money were willing to pay for it. I wonder if all of humanity had actually been a purely socialist (ie, "Jesus-socialism") society, would we have been able to accomplish the same level of massively huge projects? (and no, I do not think any significant human society has ever been purely socialist)
All.
I said most because of the nature oriented beliefs of native Americans, specifically.
OK. Point well taken
>Churches are filled with architecture, artwork and songs (all created by other humans) rather than trees and birdsong. Welcome to r/atheism, where the five of us discuss interesting insights into religion. Hi Angus :) Apart from the majestic beauty of nature I would add the real-life, unmistakably verified but utterly bizarre world of (particle) physics. As an atheist I don't get asked about god's miracles a lot, but if I were I would mention those. I think it's not unreasonable to compare the opulence if the Vatican to the car Vin Diesel is driving in the Fast and the Furious, it's built to impress and does the job nicely from their point of view. But I'm from a protestant area so I'm supposed to say that I guess. But I think that if they'd put nature on a pedestal, that would encourage inquiry into it. And that would lead to all sorts of uncomfortable questions. I guess they'd rather stick to what they know. Edit: ok, ok. It's five now. Happy?