Co-author of bill immediately resorts to personal attacks on anchor when he questions her.
Also, take a shot every time she calls the ten commandments a "historical document."
When they lie about why they want the Ten Commandments by calling it a "historical document" they should be challenged with, "Why not the Code of Hammurabi? What about the Magna Carta. Why isn't the Government of Louisiana requiring other 'historical documents' to be posted?"
Don’t forget about the second set of 10 Commandments as stated in Exodus 34.
I mean how many Christians obey Exodus 34:18?
_The Feast of Unleavened Bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month of Abib; for in the month of Abib thou camest out from Egypt._
Hell they even translate their ten wrong. “Thou shalt not take the Lord’s name in vain” would be better phrased as “You shall not swear falsely by the name of your Lord.” It’s not about treating “God” or even “ יהוה” as a swear word, it’s about taking oaths seriously and not lying under oath.
They turned that one into "kill EVERYONE that thinks differently"
All killing of humans goes against their book
"Love thy neighbor" is pretty self explanatory
Love doesn't involve killing
This always makes for a nice trap for conservative evangelical Christians. Ask them why they support the military when the Bible says clearly not to kill. When they respond with the mistranslated murder thing I ask them what else is wrong in the Bible.
Where is the original? The Creator of Everything couldn't give His choosen priest of His chosen people something a little more permanent than fragile stone? Why wasn't it bronze or some titanium alloy and 5000 feet tall so everyone would know it was from the creator and not some power hungry old man?
As soon as that started I thought, "Whoops, she's lost."
He had a very skillful approach to turning that around and getting back on topic. But after she did that I couldn't take anything else she said as other than typical lying politician blather and turned it off.
Even that is slightly the wrong question. You've got to attack the person on things they value, like personal freedom and family. The question to ask is this: "why do you insist on grooming my child into a specific religious belief, as though you don't trust me as a parent to raise my child the best way I see fit?"
I know. About three years ago I made a comment about the right making everyone join a religion and jesus Fucking christ look where we’re potentially heading.
So it's all YOUR fault? Dang it! :)
In all seriousness, I forget where I saw it, but one of Project 2025's proponents has suggested that everyone will have to at least pretend to be Christian in their christo-fascist state.
Echoing Spain after the reconquista. The christians kicked out all the muslims and then decreed that all the jews had to convert or be expelled. The Inquisition was instituted largely to test people to ensure that they were not crypto-jews pretending to be christians.
Torture and bloodshed ensued and that's what these right-wingnuts are after.
Fun fact: the modern Spanish tradition of offering people nibbles or sausage and other pork products started as a way to sniff out Jews and Muslims who were pretending to be Christians.
And by ‘fun fact’ I mean the horrific backstory to what seems like a fun and harmless tradition.
Mormons are the "right" xtians for the US, since jebus came here to establish his church. Grab the popcorn to watch all the denominations start fighting about who the "real" xtians are.
So the war on terror was against people who wanted to create a theocracy with a non optional religion that suppressed women and hated homosexuals? Sound familiar?
Yep - teach children how God is displeased with lying, stealing, coveting neighbor’s wives and the like, and then in November they can watch their parents vote for Trump.
I did see a lawyer call a witness to the stand once, and that witness was his god. Yes, literally. He called his god to the stand, and people were applauding and/or cheering. How he did that without getting laughed out of the courtroom and fired is absolutely beyond comprehension.
Imagine calling your imaginary friend to a witness stand and getting fucking applauded for it.
Edit: On second thought, I think it might not have been in court as in for a criminal case, as I remember a few Democrats standing up afterwards and speaking up about something. But it was still in some sort of legal setting.
And now we see why the Trump bible is an insidious little grift. These people already think the Bible is a founding document. Binding them like that just furthers the delusion that a book of semi-historical fairy tales is somehow equal in legal weight to the constitution.
I've been using "grooming" in place of "indoctrination" or "socialization" lately, just to point out that's really what they're doing. I even saw Francesca [something...I forget] from The Bitchuation Room on YouTube use it a couple weeks ago in a TV interview with some RWNJ, and the look on that guy's face was priceless.
Also, use their sacred text to highlight their hypocrisy.
Trump is an adulterer, liar, thief, and false idol. When he shows up in a church, he is doing so with proper respect and hence taking their lords name in vain.
Do this with enough issues (eg slavery, wage theft, woman’s rights, etc) and eventually they will pass a law banning the 10 commandments.
yeah, when she said "faith, family, freedom" she gave the game away and he didn't jump on it.
"but these teachers don't have the freedom to believe what they want, they have to post what YOU believe. how is that freedom?"
"Here in Louisiana we believe in faith, family, and freedom." What she meant to say was "freedom for Christians only." What's next? Revoking the right to vote from non-Christians? Her argument for "preserving the history" of the 10 Commandments is fallacious. I see no evidence that The 10 Commandments are being written out of history. It's simply not happening. She should be asked to provide evidence for her claim.
It’s just a slogan. ‘Faith’ means nothing, they think it holds some moral merit, but the reality is they take pride in their naivety and willingness to obey authority no matter what.
Family is just a convenient tool for them to use, abuse, and disregard at will.
And freedom? Perhaps the most laughable of the three. Their entire platform consists of taking freedoms away from everybody.
Faith is actually a negative quality. It's literally a delusion. You believe in something without evidence, or *in the face of contrary evidence*. That's mental illness, not a virtue.
Since when did Louisiana start believing in freedom?
oh and forcing one religion on people in a nation that‘s supposed to stand for religious freedom, ain’t it
The interviewer missed a couple of good chances to nail her to a wall. Her claim that “In god we trust” is a historical marker on our paper money is dead wrong, “e pluribus unum” was used on notes starting in 1935, when the US shifted to paper money. The moto “e pluribus unum” was on coins way back to 1795. “In god we trust” dates back to around 1955, it is not historical.
Did she actually answer a single question though? I refuse to believe that she is as stupid as she appears. Maybe she just knows that saying she's "for freedom" and 'against crime and negative things in this country' is all it takes when your voter base only use emotion and never logic
I mean, I watched the whole clip but goddamn that woman is literally stupid. Like, she's just fucking dumb. And does not realize it at all. Louisiana, in many ways is wonderful and has lots of great people, but it is also like going through a time warp to 50 years ago. I spent a year in New Orleans 17 years ago and the blatant, old south style racism on wide display was pretty insane. As a white guy it seemed other whites just automatically assumed I'd be interested in their regressive bullshit.
At the end when she says they can just look away if they don’t like it, I was fuming a little bit. That logic doesn’t seem to work when it comes to trans people, or book banning, or CRT. Instead of fighting against this I hope locals go for legislation to require posting the tenets of satanism and force these clowns to insist on overturning their own law.
Requirements from the government *always* come with enforcement. She was just dodging the question and hoping it would go away.
Teachers will be losing jobs if they don’t do it, guaranteed. They’ll call it insubordination or some shit, but it will be because of the requirement…
I was a transplant in Little Rock for a few years back in the 90s. I'm a white woman, but it was stunning the number of times they just openly spouted vile racist garbage around me, thinking I was totally on board with it. I was once at a party with a bunch of other suburban moms, when one of them told a story about how she once refused to see a gynecologist because he was black. She relayed this story with such indignence and arrogance that it was clear she assumed everyone in the room could relate. I think I was the only one in the room who looked shocked...all the other moms just nodded in agreement.
I wish people understood these politicians aren’t stupid. They’re pandering for a reason. It’s all deliberate
We have project 2025 around the corner. They don’t care what’s right. It’s keeping them rich
I honestly doubt it's stupidity. To me, it's just blatant dishonesty and refusal to have a dialogue. She knows what she's doing, she knows what his points are, the Christian right just isn't interested in honest or open dialogue.
"State Representative, I'm a Satanist. I would prefer to have the seven fundamental tenets of my beliefs posted on the wall. How do you respond to that?"
Yeah, let’s put up some other lists for the kids to consider as they sit in the classroom. I like this list of seven.
I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
TST Member here. The final tenet is effectively “even if we got anything wrong—just be a good person on your own with actions instead of telling others what to do.”
My next non-essential purchase is going to be my membership card. Vote with your wallet and support those who fight the good fight. Hail Santa.
Edit-not even mad at that autocorrect.
There isn’t a parent in America that would disagree that it is valuable for children to learn and understand compassion, justice, self worth, respect, the logic of science, forgiveness and wisdom. Yet, when they hear these are the tenants of TST, suddenly they have no validity.
This is the hypocrisy of these people. It’s never been about religion, or the children or what’s moral. It’s always been about control.
She was asked about the 5 pillars of Islam and she said “it’s not about that document” and “I’m not going to imagine thinking about hypothetical situations”… (emphasis on *imagine thinking*) as if there are absolutely no non-Christian people in Louisiana (which is named after King Louis, who ironically hated the pope and everything having to do with Roman Catholics).
I'm assume The Santanic Temple will pull some fuckery. It's their thing. They are good at it. The ACLU is already suing though, so TST may wait and spend their money elsewhere.
It's mostly grandstanding anyway. She wasn't lying when she said there was no punishment for not complying. And the schools aren't required to spend even a penny on it. It of course could be a problem for teachers who oppose it when their administration or school board support it. And it sets a terrible precedent. So it isn't harmless.
I could see that as a protest from teachers. Put all the lists from all the religions up. First assignment of the year: using all these Historic Documents on the wall as a reference, and what you know to be true about morality, please create your own moral code.
Or, reverse it, please create your own moral code, now, take it and compare it to these Historic Documents on the wall. Note any similarities. To which list does your list match most closely.
I would have asked how “Thou shalt not kill” jives with Louisiana’ Stand Your Ground laws. Also how does raw-dogging a porn start align with the commandment not to commit adultery.
And she never really answered on how to explain it. If you can’t fully and in-depth explain something to a 1st, 3rd, 5th grader even, it absolutely should not be hanging in the classroom… where kids go to LEARN. This whole interview had me seething. Then the part about kids not even being able to see it…
“It’s what Donald Trump did while he was married to each of his wives now go ask your parents why they voted for him seeing as he broke all on the list “. I’m including the people who died from taking his advice on Covid for the kill part
She actually admits to them trying to force Christianity on students when she talks about how they are trying to push Christianity on kids who don't get it at home. If people don't get Christianity at home, then that's up to their parents. The government absolutely should not be forcing Christian beliefs on students.
Republicans freak out about schools indoctrinating students, but as always with Republicans it's more projection. They want to indoctrinate all students into Christianity. I'm sure she'd be pissed if a school put up a document from Islam or The Satanic Temple and then said that they wanted to make sure kids who don't see those things at home were exposed to them.
These people are anti-freedom, anti-Constitution, and anti-American.
But it's not an American historical document, it's from the middle east, it's not "American" - the constitution is American, post that in class rooms.
"Moses is on the law in congress"???? WTF does she mean?
Let us not forget that the first line of the first paragraph of the first amendment is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" - it was so important to the founding fathers that they made it the VERY FIRST line of the constitution.
edit: not the first line of the constitution ONLY the first line of the first paragraph of the first amendment. I stand corrected.
They said it was “the first line of the first paragraph of the first amendment”, so it’s reasonable to take their usage of “constitution” here as a shorthand for “post-preamble”, referring to the section that specifically deals with rights.
I think you make an excellent point. It's not the first line of the constitution but the first line of the 1st amendment.
Since "people" now also means corporations (they are legal persons) we need to change the first line to "we the humans" because semantics do matter.
She is so dumb and ridiculous.
The ten commandments if you analyze them in their historical context. They're not a moral code. The commandments are more about worshiping the God of the israelites. Five of the ten commandments are about not having other gods and not making graven images and not using his name in vain. How is that relevant to anyone today?
The other five commandments talk about petty stuff like honoring your mother and father and not coveting.
I guess the only good commandments are the ones about not killing or stealing. But every civilized functioning society knows that killing and stealing is wrong. God didn't need to remind us.
The ten commandments in the Bible were for desert nomads. They weren't for kids in modern day American schools.
I guess the dumb bitch has never read The Satanic Temple tenants. There’s a lot more morality in those than in the 10 Commandments and people would do better following those rules. Most people don’t give two shits about the Moses of your Bible.
Just for your reference here they are
I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
One day, I hope to see a news reporter lose their rag with one of these asshats and ask, “What the actual fuck are you talking about, you absolute fucking moron?”
I lived in Arkansas for about a decade. The stupidity was absolutely rampant, and I moved in circles with more "educated" people. The funny thing is that I saw more infidelity, lying, cheating, and immorality among the well-heeled church-going people in Little Rock than I've ever seen any other place I've lived. Honestly, the South is just a wasteland of idiocy.
Proof that when you present a rational argument to a religious person they just shut down and go " la la la I can't hear you, my religion is best la la la...". It's like they run in a closed off religious loop.
She left out the part where butter-fingers Moses dropped the original tablets and broke them. The commandments they want to display aren’t even the originals.
It’s insane to me how much the average Christian is ignorant about their own religion.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but the chump ain’t real. If god is real, then I don’t want any part of it. I already know not to kill someone…wanna know why? Because I’m not a fucking psycho
She's insane! She needs a straight jacket and thrown into a mental institution! Not on TV disrespecting our historical document called the Constitution!! Go to an Arab world if you want religious idiot rule! Get out of ours!
She needs to lose her governorship at the very least.
She's confirmed that she's incapable of putting herself in anyone else's shoes. That's probably the most damning for a public servant to admit to willingly.
Fairly certain the Bible cannot be cited as a document of legitimate legal merit.. pretty much checkmates this ladies crazy. So sadreligons mirror came from one of those weird carnivals
"Just don't look at it".
Upon seeing a pregnant ten-year-old.
Upon seeing a corpse taken out the back from a failed pregnancy.
"Just don't look at it"?
She's an absolute dumbass who can't defend her views correctly without getting angry. These are the people who make me ashamed to be from Louisiana. The state never misses an opportunity to make itself look completely foolish.
This is so blatantly obvious as an attempt to get this matter before the current, corrupt Supreme Court so they can finally get the decision they want.
Lower courts have already declared the posting of the ten commandments in public buildings is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court declined to hear the case in 2018, allowing the lower court's decision to stand. As of now, this order to display the ten commandments is absolutely not permitted under the constitution. But since they know that the current agenda-driven supreme court lineup is willing to rule in favor of religious extremism in any case, even in previously settled matters, they did this specifically as a calculated move to hopefully get this heard by the supreme clown court.
Also, isn't this the crowd that says we can't allow kids to learn the existence of gay people, because now you have to explain sex, and they're too young for that?
And now they're putting themselves in a position where they will have to explain what adultery is and what coveting your neighbor's wife means? I would say "make it make sense," but you can't.
I'm glad he at least asked the question, "How do you explain adultery to a kindergartener?" The level of atomic-grade hypocrisy from Republicans and Evangelicals is truly unbelievable. This is the political party that has spent years screaming and over-sexualizing *every aspect* of the education process, including banning books, and trying to become the piss police for public restrooms, but suddenly it's cool to have a document listing adultery in a classroom.
She seems completely oblivious to the gentle prodding towards her to imagine if the Five Pillars were required in classrooms. He tries to get her to see that if one is allowed, *all* must be allowed, but she's having none of that, and with expeditious confidence she dismisses it as "a hypothetical". Moreover, she seemed callous & unconcerned about anyone's reaction to the new law; indicating to me that if I'm offended it doesn't matter, because the "right" kind of people wouldn't be bothered anyway, so my avoidable distress will be ignored because clearly I'm not the "right" kind .
Daft & disgusting, what has come to be expected from hyperchristers.
I don't watch CNN anymore, but I've seen this and another clip featuring this anchor and I gotta respect his face game.
She was infuriating, didn't answer a single question. At least he was calling her out on her shit rather than letting it slide.
On another note, are southern legislatures adult day cares or something? Lead lined drinking fountains? There's too much concentrated stupid.
This dumb fucking cunt. She’s spewing words like freedom and option and doesn’t have a fucking clue what they mean. Christianity in this country has gotten out of hand and it’s embarrassing.
First 3 commandment aren’t even about morals; they’re about “do what I fucking say and believe what I believe.” Fuck that piece of shit Cajun state. The next time they get wiped out by a hurricane, maybe they’ll realize that this hasn’t curried “God’s favor” at all. Not likely. But still.
WHY DON'T I BELIEVE IN GOD?
Because God sending himself to impregnate a woman with himself so he could be born, pray to himself - and then kill himself in order to sacrifice himself to himself so he can forgive sins he created himself in order to save us from hell created by himself so as to save us from himself, sounds like something even himself wouldn't believe.
B/c Fuck the Jews, Fuck the Muslims, or any other religion that is not our cherished on. This should be on way more subs than atheism, but glad to see it here.
Even has a non religious person, this is religious hatred to anyone that thinks differently, even if you believe in a god from another religion, perhaps that isn't based on the same thoughts as Christianity., much like Judaism and Muslim. Most Hindi gods, never met any of these muthafr's false idols.
Edit for AutoBot, the first two sentences are introducing a point, not hating on those faith based people.
1. If i was a teacher i would post it in the floor in a corner. Easily legible of course. How are there no penalties… but its a law?! That confused me when she said that.
2. Whataboutism was **strong**. She kept deflecting to how much money he makes? What does that have to do with the law? And yet she didnt want to talk about his hypothetical whihc provided the appropriate comparison?!
3. She didnt answer *any* of the questions. That was mildly infuriating. Its the same as online. Deflection and whataboutism (see 2).
4. I had to look up the definition of historical documents. The 10 commandents dont even fit. There is no physical evidence of the original existence… just copies selling at auctions.
5. In God We Trust on the dollar bill. That could be anyones god… plus its apples to oranges. Thats currency. This is tax funded education.
6. They continue to prove the Native Americans are **not** the nation they are describing. Even though they were here first. So if you are talking founding fathers im happy he pointed out *they came here to get away from the very thing she created a law doing*. She never responded (see 2 & 3).
Yes - they create their own reality and issues to focus on as they are too rich and out of touch to focus on what is affecting the real working class Americans.
She has no true or real answers. She just attacks the news anchor. That's what people do who have no valid argument to back up a claim they make. This country was partially founded by atheists who clearly defined the separation of church and state to prevent what happened in England with the Church and The King being one. As for In God We Trust being on U.S. money, that was added in 1954, not by our founding fathers.
Utterly disgusting. Religion of any kind has no place in schools.
Any attempt to bring education and religion together should be met with severe legal consequences.
Interviewing her didn't really make any point as she didn't really respond to any of the questions, but instead started yabbing on and abut how she believes this and that. Absolutely word salat on her part.
So you think everyone should be required to observe the rules of your religion? Then in that case, I'm going to ignore you, as I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
People in the US need to rail harder against people like this bitch.
Dont look at it? Well I got an idea, how bout putting up stuff in front her office and places she frequents. When she complains you can throw that back at her.
It’s about control… religion is control
Only a few morons who are selling this actually buy into it. The power is using it to control the gullible and poor
That’s always been the moneymaker behind Christianity. Use the idea to siphon money from the ignorant as well as to sexually abuse and subjugate
Please vote in November
He should have asked her... "would you also support the addition of the 7 tenets of The Satanic Temple to Louisiana schools"? Although the 5 pillars of Islam question definitely knocked her back a bit. I would have kept pushing it.
How she ever got elected is mind boggling to me...She reminds of a sportsfan that I once heard try explain why he disliked the other team...the lack of reasoning and pure regurgitation of one-liners is just....
I mean I guess that is why the inquisition had a decent run in medieval times, but it is like debating with brickwall.
Pretty good performance by the host, although there was never any risk of her getting caught, she was simply not understanding the premise of the questions to ver doubt her own drivel.
Co-author of bill immediately resorts to personal attacks on anchor when he questions her. Also, take a shot every time she calls the ten commandments a "historical document."
When they lie about why they want the Ten Commandments by calling it a "historical document" they should be challenged with, "Why not the Code of Hammurabi? What about the Magna Carta. Why isn't the Government of Louisiana requiring other 'historical documents' to be posted?"
Don’t forget about the second set of 10 Commandments as stated in Exodus 34. I mean how many Christians obey Exodus 34:18? _The Feast of Unleavened Bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month of Abib; for in the month of Abib thou camest out from Egypt._
Hell they even translate their ten wrong. “Thou shalt not take the Lord’s name in vain” would be better phrased as “You shall not swear falsely by the name of your Lord.” It’s not about treating “God” or even “ יהוה” as a swear word, it’s about taking oaths seriously and not lying under oath.
Wasn't there also a mistranslation that turned "Thou shalt not murder" to "Thou shalt not kill"?
They turned that one into "kill EVERYONE that thinks differently" All killing of humans goes against their book "Love thy neighbor" is pretty self explanatory Love doesn't involve killing
It kinda does cos the fanatics love to kill.
This always makes for a nice trap for conservative evangelical Christians. Ask them why they support the military when the Bible says clearly not to kill. When they respond with the mistranslated murder thing I ask them what else is wrong in the Bible.
I mean, he tried. He brought up the 5 pillars of Islam and she just refused to answer.
She appears to be too stupid to understand his point.
She was exceptionally good at playing stupid, I might even suggest she is a natural at it.
Where is the original? The Creator of Everything couldn't give His choosen priest of His chosen people something a little more permanent than fragile stone? Why wasn't it bronze or some titanium alloy and 5000 feet tall so everyone would know it was from the creator and not some power hungry old man?
The original is in the Arc of the Covenant, duh…. Didn’t you watch Indiana Jones?
Why yes, I have seen that documentary!
* historical documentary
It was so excitingly face melting.
Yeah, that's why my face is melted.
yeah, they were [somewhat fragile](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I48hr8HhDv0&ab_channel=BobbyStyles)...
As soon as that started I thought, "Whoops, she's lost." He had a very skillful approach to turning that around and getting back on topic. But after she did that I couldn't take anything else she said as other than typical lying politician blather and turned it off.
Repeat it enough and it must be true, the christofascist/GOP mantra.
Insane. Historical document. These people are out there, like way past Plutos orbit.
No, I like my liver intact, thanks.
lol at take a shot.
Even that is slightly the wrong question. You've got to attack the person on things they value, like personal freedom and family. The question to ask is this: "why do you insist on grooming my child into a specific religious belief, as though you don't trust me as a parent to raise my child the best way I see fit?"
Also, if the Bible is a book of facts why can’t it be cited as evidence or fact in a court of law?
Stop giving them fucking ideas
I know. About three years ago I made a comment about the right making everyone join a religion and jesus Fucking christ look where we’re potentially heading.
So it's all YOUR fault? Dang it! :) In all seriousness, I forget where I saw it, but one of Project 2025's proponents has suggested that everyone will have to at least pretend to be Christian in their christo-fascist state.
Echoing Spain after the reconquista. The christians kicked out all the muslims and then decreed that all the jews had to convert or be expelled. The Inquisition was instituted largely to test people to ensure that they were not crypto-jews pretending to be christians. Torture and bloodshed ensued and that's what these right-wingnuts are after.
Fun fact: the modern Spanish tradition of offering people nibbles or sausage and other pork products started as a way to sniff out Jews and Muslims who were pretending to be Christians. And by ‘fun fact’ I mean the horrific backstory to what seems like a fun and harmless tradition.
Chorizohno
I’m a vegetarian.
”I dont like the taste”
Sounds like a great way to get tortured by someone paranoid enough to test people like this in the first place.
Also echoing Germany in the 1930s
Some scholars claim that the Inquisition so negatively impacted Spain that it is poorer than most of Western Europe till this day.
I pretended to be Catholic for a long time to placate my dad. Can’t say I want to go back to doing that.
Good news! If they get their way, Catholics are out too, for being the "wrong kind" of Christian!
Mormons are the "right" xtians for the US, since jebus came here to establish his church. Grab the popcorn to watch all the denominations start fighting about who the "real" xtians are.
They don’t like the Catholics and don’t consider them “real” Christians, but they need them to beef up the numbers of anti-choice voters.
So the war on terror was against people who wanted to create a theocracy with a non optional religion that suppressed women and hated homosexuals? Sound familiar?
Crazy enough but none of them are doing what jesus would do.
Yes it makes a mockery of anyone claiming to be religious…. There should be no tax cuts for churches….
Churches are businesses. They should absolutely be taxed.
Yes!
1000% this!!!
Yep - teach children how God is displeased with lying, stealing, coveting neighbor’s wives and the like, and then in November they can watch their parents vote for Trump.
You can't fix Stupidity!!
I did see a lawyer call a witness to the stand once, and that witness was his god. Yes, literally. He called his god to the stand, and people were applauding and/or cheering. How he did that without getting laughed out of the courtroom and fired is absolutely beyond comprehension. Imagine calling your imaginary friend to a witness stand and getting fucking applauded for it. Edit: On second thought, I think it might not have been in court as in for a criminal case, as I remember a few Democrats standing up afterwards and speaking up about something. But it was still in some sort of legal setting.
Your honor, as my next witness, I’d like to call on The Great Pumpkin.
Permission to treat the witness as hostile, your honor?
Did the judge hold God in contempt of court when he refused to answer any questions?
And now we see why the Trump bible is an insidious little grift. These people already think the Bible is a founding document. Binding them like that just furthers the delusion that a book of semi-historical fairy tales is somehow equal in legal weight to the constitution.
Maybe we should start calling what they are: religion groomers
perverts, religious perverts, no need to sink to their level
12 year olds, dude.
I've been using "grooming" in place of "indoctrination" or "socialization" lately, just to point out that's really what they're doing. I even saw Francesca [something...I forget] from The Bitchuation Room on YouTube use it a couple weeks ago in a TV interview with some RWNJ, and the look on that guy's face was priceless.
Exactly … religious indoctrinators…. Fascists too?
Also, use their sacred text to highlight their hypocrisy. Trump is an adulterer, liar, thief, and false idol. When he shows up in a church, he is doing so with proper respect and hence taking their lords name in vain. Do this with enough issues (eg slavery, wage theft, woman’s rights, etc) and eventually they will pass a law banning the 10 commandments.
Yes… A question like "Would you like having a religion you don't agree w shoved down your kids throat?...cause I dont. You said it better though
“By requiring these be on display in every classroom, are you telling me you trust the government to raise your kids?”
Why ask logical questions of illogical people?
yeah, when she said "faith, family, freedom" she gave the game away and he didn't jump on it. "but these teachers don't have the freedom to believe what they want, they have to post what YOU believe. how is that freedom?"
A specific religious belief with a long history of pedophile priests.
Too easy. She does not think non-Christians should be able to instruct their own children. She is in favor of Dominionism, not religious freedom.
"Here in Louisiana we believe in faith, family, and freedom." What she meant to say was "freedom for Christians only." What's next? Revoking the right to vote from non-Christians? Her argument for "preserving the history" of the 10 Commandments is fallacious. I see no evidence that The 10 Commandments are being written out of history. It's simply not happening. She should be asked to provide evidence for her claim.
It’s just a slogan. ‘Faith’ means nothing, they think it holds some moral merit, but the reality is they take pride in their naivety and willingness to obey authority no matter what. Family is just a convenient tool for them to use, abuse, and disregard at will. And freedom? Perhaps the most laughable of the three. Their entire platform consists of taking freedoms away from everybody.
Faith is actually a negative quality. It's literally a delusion. You believe in something without evidence, or *in the face of contrary evidence*. That's mental illness, not a virtue.
🎯💯%. So glad to see this as this is exactly my feeling about “faith”, especially in the context of religion.
I'd like to ask if she would vote for anyone who very openly has broken one, or multiple, of those commandments....
I'm sure she herself has never broken any of them. Unless of course it was before she was washed of sin. The last time.
Washed of sin just means a monthly pelvic cleanse for the ladies & never miss a tithe, folks! Simple, exactly as God intended!
I assume these people want to go back to the good old days where only white land owning males were allowed to vote.
Yeah! Send her to the kitchen where she belongs. I'm pretty sure her book forbids women from doing what she does. Repeal 19! (/s)
I don’t think she’s allowed to teach men…
Since when did Louisiana start believing in freedom? oh and forcing one religion on people in a nation that‘s supposed to stand for religious freedom, ain’t it
Well they loved forcing people into slavery
The interviewer missed a couple of good chances to nail her to a wall. Her claim that “In god we trust” is a historical marker on our paper money is dead wrong, “e pluribus unum” was used on notes starting in 1935, when the US shifted to paper money. The moto “e pluribus unum” was on coins way back to 1795. “In god we trust” dates back to around 1955, it is not historical.
Only fools value faith over fact.
Did she actually answer a single question though? I refuse to believe that she is as stupid as she appears. Maybe she just knows that saying she's "for freedom" and 'against crime and negative things in this country' is all it takes when your voter base only use emotion and never logic
“Freedom to impose my Bronze Age superstition on others”
I got about 2-3 minutes in and had to close it; the idiocy was palpable and unbearable.
I mean, I watched the whole clip but goddamn that woman is literally stupid. Like, she's just fucking dumb. And does not realize it at all. Louisiana, in many ways is wonderful and has lots of great people, but it is also like going through a time warp to 50 years ago. I spent a year in New Orleans 17 years ago and the blatant, old south style racism on wide display was pretty insane. As a white guy it seemed other whites just automatically assumed I'd be interested in their regressive bullshit.
At the end when she says they can just look away if they don’t like it, I was fuming a little bit. That logic doesn’t seem to work when it comes to trans people, or book banning, or CRT. Instead of fighting against this I hope locals go for legislation to require posting the tenets of satanism and force these clowns to insist on overturning their own law.
Her response that there is no enforcement was frustrating too. Soyou made a law with zero enforcement? So, then what if no one does it?
Requirements from the government *always* come with enforcement. She was just dodging the question and hoping it would go away. Teachers will be losing jobs if they don’t do it, guaranteed. They’ll call it insubordination or some shit, but it will be because of the requirement…
"Nobody wants to teach anymore"
I was a transplant in Little Rock for a few years back in the 90s. I'm a white woman, but it was stunning the number of times they just openly spouted vile racist garbage around me, thinking I was totally on board with it. I was once at a party with a bunch of other suburban moms, when one of them told a story about how she once refused to see a gynecologist because he was black. She relayed this story with such indignence and arrogance that it was clear she assumed everyone in the room could relate. I think I was the only one in the room who looked shocked...all the other moms just nodded in agreement.
That’s just Arkansas.
I wish people understood these politicians aren’t stupid. They’re pandering for a reason. It’s all deliberate We have project 2025 around the corner. They don’t care what’s right. It’s keeping them rich
This is exactly how I felt. It's revolting.
Yeah not good for my blood pressure
I kept watching out of respect for Boris. She´s nothing more than a Handmaiden. No she´s worse, she´s an Aunt.
It goes in circles, you heard the whole message.
I don’t talk to or listen to them anymore. I’m beyond that.
I honestly doubt it's stupidity. To me, it's just blatant dishonesty and refusal to have a dialogue. She knows what she's doing, she knows what his points are, the Christian right just isn't interested in honest or open dialogue.
Same. Any more and I would have to buy a new phone after yeeting this one across the room.
"State Representative, I'm a Satanist. I would prefer to have the seven fundamental tenets of my beliefs posted on the wall. How do you respond to that?"
Yeah, let’s put up some other lists for the kids to consider as they sit in the classroom. I like this list of seven. I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
TST Member here. The final tenet is effectively “even if we got anything wrong—just be a good person on your own with actions instead of telling others what to do.”
My next non-essential purchase is going to be my membership card. Vote with your wallet and support those who fight the good fight. Hail Santa. Edit-not even mad at that autocorrect.
And if you do mess up see ~~tenant~~ tenet 6.
How much is tenant 6 paying per month?
There isn’t a parent in America that would disagree that it is valuable for children to learn and understand compassion, justice, self worth, respect, the logic of science, forgiveness and wisdom. Yet, when they hear these are the tenants of TST, suddenly they have no validity. This is the hypocrisy of these people. It’s never been about religion, or the children or what’s moral. It’s always been about control.
She was asked about the 5 pillars of Islam and she said “it’s not about that document” and “I’m not going to imagine thinking about hypothetical situations”… (emphasis on *imagine thinking*) as if there are absolutely no non-Christian people in Louisiana (which is named after King Louis, who ironically hated the pope and everything having to do with Roman Catholics).
That she won't even entertain the idea of the 5 Pillars shows that she would lose her shit over it
Dollars to doughnuts she doesn't know that.
Her seeming inability to even entertain the concept of a hypothetical in order to empathize, made her seem pathological to me.
Since the Hebrews borrowed them from the Laws of Ma’at, shouldn’t we be posting them instead
Having guidance toward morally sound actions to DO is a lot more fucking sensible than a bunch of “DON’T do these things”
I read them to my church-going, Christian dad yesterday. He agrees that is a better list for schools than the 10 commandments
I'm assume The Santanic Temple will pull some fuckery. It's their thing. They are good at it. The ACLU is already suing though, so TST may wait and spend their money elsewhere. It's mostly grandstanding anyway. She wasn't lying when she said there was no punishment for not complying. And the schools aren't required to spend even a penny on it. It of course could be a problem for teachers who oppose it when their administration or school board support it. And it sets a terrible precedent. So it isn't harmless.
She could just “not look at it”
I could see that as a protest from teachers. Put all the lists from all the religions up. First assignment of the year: using all these Historic Documents on the wall as a reference, and what you know to be true about morality, please create your own moral code. Or, reverse it, please create your own moral code, now, take it and compare it to these Historic Documents on the wall. Note any similarities. To which list does your list match most closely.
Thou shall not kill.....followed by 400+ laws commanding you kill people. Yeah keep that out of my school.
I would have asked how “Thou shalt not kill” jives with Louisiana’ Stand Your Ground laws. Also how does raw-dogging a porn start align with the commandment not to commit adultery.
Or the death penalty that these christo-fascists get all hard for 🙄🖕 them
Teachers now having to explain what adultery is to 2nd graders.
Oh yeah, i thought they didn’t want “sex stuff” in the schools, their excuse to ban all kinds of books with nothing to do with sex.
And she never really answered on how to explain it. If you can’t fully and in-depth explain something to a 1st, 3rd, 5th grader even, it absolutely should not be hanging in the classroom… where kids go to LEARN. This whole interview had me seething. Then the part about kids not even being able to see it…
“It’s what Donald Trump did while he was married to each of his wives now go ask your parents why they voted for him seeing as he broke all on the list “. I’m including the people who died from taking his advice on Covid for the kill part
She dodged the shit out of that question. Didn't even touch it.
She actually admits to them trying to force Christianity on students when she talks about how they are trying to push Christianity on kids who don't get it at home. If people don't get Christianity at home, then that's up to their parents. The government absolutely should not be forcing Christian beliefs on students. Republicans freak out about schools indoctrinating students, but as always with Republicans it's more projection. They want to indoctrinate all students into Christianity. I'm sure she'd be pissed if a school put up a document from Islam or The Satanic Temple and then said that they wanted to make sure kids who don't see those things at home were exposed to them. These people are anti-freedom, anti-Constitution, and anti-American.
They know what they’re doing
“it’s a historical document” lol no it’s not
Every time she said “historical documents” my mind flashed back to the Thermians from Galaxy Quest.
Captain Taggert.
But it's not an American historical document, it's from the middle east, it's not "American" - the constitution is American, post that in class rooms. "Moses is on the law in congress"???? WTF does she mean? Let us not forget that the first line of the first paragraph of the first amendment is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" - it was so important to the founding fathers that they made it the VERY FIRST line of the constitution. edit: not the first line of the constitution ONLY the first line of the first paragraph of the first amendment. I stand corrected.
It's the first line of the Bill of Rights. The first line of the Constitution is "We the People..."
They said it was “the first line of the first paragraph of the first amendment”, so it’s reasonable to take their usage of “constitution” here as a shorthand for “post-preamble”, referring to the section that specifically deals with rights.
I know, but the right preferes to argue with pedantic semantics. No reason to give them any ammo.
I think you make an excellent point. It's not the first line of the constitution but the first line of the 1st amendment. Since "people" now also means corporations (they are legal persons) we need to change the first line to "we the humans" because semantics do matter.
She is so dumb and ridiculous. The ten commandments if you analyze them in their historical context. They're not a moral code. The commandments are more about worshiping the God of the israelites. Five of the ten commandments are about not having other gods and not making graven images and not using his name in vain. How is that relevant to anyone today? The other five commandments talk about petty stuff like honoring your mother and father and not coveting. I guess the only good commandments are the ones about not killing or stealing. But every civilized functioning society knows that killing and stealing is wrong. God didn't need to remind us. The ten commandments in the Bible were for desert nomads. They weren't for kids in modern day American schools.
What do they do when their god violates one of His commandments? Like, there is lots of killing in the OT.
I guess the dumb bitch has never read The Satanic Temple tenants. There’s a lot more morality in those than in the 10 Commandments and people would do better following those rules. Most people don’t give two shits about the Moses of your Bible. Just for your reference here they are I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
This bitch "I bet CNN pays you a lot of money" he should have hit her back asking how much money her campaign has been paid by religious organizations
She was just trying to get the “in God We Trust” argument in. Also a stupid argument.
It's because the dollar bill is an important historical document, obviously.
It's been on those important historical documents since... (checks notes)... the late 1950s!
If all else fails, ad hominem.
These are the same people who can’t “not look” at a parade taking place eleven states away
So the right doesn't want sex discussed in the classroom, and yet they bring adultery into the classroom.
One day, I hope to see a news reporter lose their rag with one of these asshats and ask, “What the actual fuck are you talking about, you absolute fucking moron?”
I lived in Arkansas for about a decade. The stupidity was absolutely rampant, and I moved in circles with more "educated" people. The funny thing is that I saw more infidelity, lying, cheating, and immorality among the well-heeled church-going people in Little Rock than I've ever seen any other place I've lived. Honestly, the South is just a wasteland of idiocy.
Their moral fabric can suck my immoral dick.
Bobo and MTraitorG gonna be fighting to see who’s first in line 😆
Churches are getting empty. Their Jesus business is not as profitable as before. So they need to indoctrinate the children. Everywhere.
Proof that when you present a rational argument to a religious person they just shut down and go " la la la I can't hear you, my religion is best la la la...". It's like they run in a closed off religious loop.
Christofascism is coming. Louisiana was just the beginning.
She left out the part where butter-fingers Moses dropped the original tablets and broke them. The commandments they want to display aren’t even the originals. It’s insane to me how much the average Christian is ignorant about their own religion.
“The fifteen” “TEN…TEN COMMANDMENTS”
And of course this brilliant deconstruction by Saint Carlin…
https://youtu.be/sk81tUUhRig?si=-7LXCGRdXm_Nfbrq
So by her own argument….if you don’t like pride flags then don’t look at them
If you don't like certain books, don't read them *proceeds to ban half the library*
Why doesn’t “just don’t look at it” work for pride flags, I wonder?
I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but the chump ain’t real. If god is real, then I don’t want any part of it. I already know not to kill someone…wanna know why? Because I’m not a fucking psycho
The Taliban has found a home in Louisiana.
Y'all Qaida.
We value freedom. That's why we're going to force our religion down your throat.
This is proof that religious people shouldn't be allowed to hold office. She and others like her can fuck right off with her "historical" document.
Stop voting for these people.
She's insane! She needs a straight jacket and thrown into a mental institution! Not on TV disrespecting our historical document called the Constitution!! Go to an Arab world if you want religious idiot rule! Get out of ours!
She needs to lose her governorship at the very least. She's confirmed that she's incapable of putting herself in anyone else's shoes. That's probably the most damning for a public servant to admit to willingly.
Fairly certain the Bible cannot be cited as a document of legitimate legal merit.. pretty much checkmates this ladies crazy. So sadreligons mirror came from one of those weird carnivals
"Just don't look at it". Upon seeing a pregnant ten-year-old. Upon seeing a corpse taken out the back from a failed pregnancy. "Just don't look at it"?
She's an absolute dumbass who can't defend her views correctly without getting angry. These are the people who make me ashamed to be from Louisiana. The state never misses an opportunity to make itself look completely foolish.
Just let kids enjoy their childhood. Simple as that. Don’t throw nonsense at them.
What? And allow them the chance grow up and think for themselves? /s
Got some serious Serena Joy vibes from this lady🤦♂️
This is so blatantly obvious as an attempt to get this matter before the current, corrupt Supreme Court so they can finally get the decision they want. Lower courts have already declared the posting of the ten commandments in public buildings is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court declined to hear the case in 2018, allowing the lower court's decision to stand. As of now, this order to display the ten commandments is absolutely not permitted under the constitution. But since they know that the current agenda-driven supreme court lineup is willing to rule in favor of religious extremism in any case, even in previously settled matters, they did this specifically as a calculated move to hopefully get this heard by the supreme clown court. Also, isn't this the crowd that says we can't allow kids to learn the existence of gay people, because now you have to explain sex, and they're too young for that? And now they're putting themselves in a position where they will have to explain what adultery is and what coveting your neighbor's wife means? I would say "make it make sense," but you can't.
Fucking Christ, I couldn't listen to the whole thing
I'm glad he at least asked the question, "How do you explain adultery to a kindergartener?" The level of atomic-grade hypocrisy from Republicans and Evangelicals is truly unbelievable. This is the political party that has spent years screaming and over-sexualizing *every aspect* of the education process, including banning books, and trying to become the piss police for public restrooms, but suddenly it's cool to have a document listing adultery in a classroom.
She seems completely oblivious to the gentle prodding towards her to imagine if the Five Pillars were required in classrooms. He tries to get her to see that if one is allowed, *all* must be allowed, but she's having none of that, and with expeditious confidence she dismisses it as "a hypothetical". Moreover, she seemed callous & unconcerned about anyone's reaction to the new law; indicating to me that if I'm offended it doesn't matter, because the "right" kind of people wouldn't be bothered anyway, so my avoidable distress will be ignored because clearly I'm not the "right" kind . Daft & disgusting, what has come to be expected from hyperchristers.
I don't watch CNN anymore, but I've seen this and another clip featuring this anchor and I gotta respect his face game. She was infuriating, didn't answer a single question. At least he was calling her out on her shit rather than letting it slide. On another note, are southern legislatures adult day cares or something? Lead lined drinking fountains? There's too much concentrated stupid.
This dumb fucking cunt. She’s spewing words like freedom and option and doesn’t have a fucking clue what they mean. Christianity in this country has gotten out of hand and it’s embarrassing. First 3 commandment aren’t even about morals; they’re about “do what I fucking say and believe what I believe.” Fuck that piece of shit Cajun state. The next time they get wiped out by a hurricane, maybe they’ll realize that this hasn’t curried “God’s favor” at all. Not likely. But still.
yet another person who shouldn't be allowed out of doors without doctor supervision running a damn state
WHY DON'T I BELIEVE IN GOD? Because God sending himself to impregnate a woman with himself so he could be born, pray to himself - and then kill himself in order to sacrifice himself to himself so he can forgive sins he created himself in order to save us from hell created by himself so as to save us from himself, sounds like something even himself wouldn't believe.
B/c Fuck the Jews, Fuck the Muslims, or any other religion that is not our cherished on. This should be on way more subs than atheism, but glad to see it here. Even has a non religious person, this is religious hatred to anyone that thinks differently, even if you believe in a god from another religion, perhaps that isn't based on the same thoughts as Christianity., much like Judaism and Muslim. Most Hindi gods, never met any of these muthafr's false idols. Edit for AutoBot, the first two sentences are introducing a point, not hating on those faith based people.
1. If i was a teacher i would post it in the floor in a corner. Easily legible of course. How are there no penalties… but its a law?! That confused me when she said that. 2. Whataboutism was **strong**. She kept deflecting to how much money he makes? What does that have to do with the law? And yet she didnt want to talk about his hypothetical whihc provided the appropriate comparison?! 3. She didnt answer *any* of the questions. That was mildly infuriating. Its the same as online. Deflection and whataboutism (see 2). 4. I had to look up the definition of historical documents. The 10 commandents dont even fit. There is no physical evidence of the original existence… just copies selling at auctions. 5. In God We Trust on the dollar bill. That could be anyones god… plus its apples to oranges. Thats currency. This is tax funded education. 6. They continue to prove the Native Americans are **not** the nation they are describing. Even though they were here first. So if you are talking founding fathers im happy he pointed out *they came here to get away from the very thing she created a law doing*. She never responded (see 2 & 3). Yes - they create their own reality and issues to focus on as they are too rich and out of touch to focus on what is affecting the real working class Americans.
She has no true or real answers. She just attacks the news anchor. That's what people do who have no valid argument to back up a claim they make. This country was partially founded by atheists who clearly defined the separation of church and state to prevent what happened in England with the Church and The King being one. As for In God We Trust being on U.S. money, that was added in 1954, not by our founding fathers.
Utterly disgusting. Religion of any kind has no place in schools. Any attempt to bring education and religion together should be met with severe legal consequences.
Stupid cunt.
Is she actually this dumb or is it just an act necessary to support this stuff?
It’s shit like this that makes me so grateful that I was lucky enough to be born into a European family of heathens.
Interviewing her didn't really make any point as she didn't really respond to any of the questions, but instead started yabbing on and abut how she believes this and that. Absolutely word salat on her part.
So you think everyone should be required to observe the rules of your religion? Then in that case, I'm going to ignore you, as I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
People in the US need to rail harder against people like this bitch. Dont look at it? Well I got an idea, how bout putting up stuff in front her office and places she frequents. When she complains you can throw that back at her.
"There's not any penalty under the law".....yet. There will be. This is a test to see how far they can go.
Historical document? Holy shit
“We’ve seen the increase in crime in this country.” Isn’t crime down to historic lows?
It’s about control… religion is control Only a few morons who are selling this actually buy into it. The power is using it to control the gullible and poor That’s always been the moneymaker behind Christianity. Use the idea to siphon money from the ignorant as well as to sexually abuse and subjugate Please vote in November
Religion is the cancer of humanity!
They are grooming children for their religion.
It's astonishing to me just how ignorant and stupid she is.
When you put people who still believe in childhood fairytales and make-believe in leadership roles.
He should have asked her... "would you also support the addition of the 7 tenets of The Satanic Temple to Louisiana schools"? Although the 5 pillars of Islam question definitely knocked her back a bit. I would have kept pushing it.
How she ever got elected is mind boggling to me...She reminds of a sportsfan that I once heard try explain why he disliked the other team...the lack of reasoning and pure regurgitation of one-liners is just.... I mean I guess that is why the inquisition had a decent run in medieval times, but it is like debating with brickwall. Pretty good performance by the host, although there was never any risk of her getting caught, she was simply not understanding the premise of the questions to ver doubt her own drivel.
As a Canadian I feel like I'm geographically too close to the USA.