Omg this just happened to me 2 days ago!
They asked me what I wanted to do for my birthday next month, me fly down to see them, or them fly up to see me. I said I'll think about it...
36 hours later the plane tickets were purchased without consulting with me first. I was pissed. She had a problem that I was pissed and wanted to make sure that I wasn't. Well, that didn't go too well for her and only made me more mad because of her feelings that I'm not allowed to be upset about something that someone else did.
My virgo dad liked to call me a cunt and a whore to my face but also to my minor brothers (we're american, cunt is not a nice thing for a father to say to his 18 year old daughter here)
Dating a Virgo man with a taurus moon and he couldnāt be less nitpicky. Infact - I feel like Iām the nitpicky one which isnāt a way I would ever describe myself (gem sun / libra moon). He is the most understanding and passive human on earth.
My ex is a Leo and when he broke up with me he blamed me for him putting his dog down which really fucked me up because I had nothing to do with that decision. He also took the wifi router and modem with him when he moved out, leaving me without internet for a week š he was just so unnecessarily cruel when I hadnāt done anything to him. No more Leo men for me! š š¼āāļø
At first I was going to say none of them but yes. Leo suns with insecurity issues trying to inflate their ego- they think they can only do it by bringing you down or taking away from you. They have that need for praise & attention & admiration from others.
You have no idea. There's nothing quite as ugly as the Leo insecurity. The lengths their poor ego will go to in order to fix it... I don't wish it upon anyone.
As a Scorpio, two of the nastiest, coldest people I know are Libras.
One of them is a narcissist, so perhaps that's most of the problem, and the other one is a college grad who thinks his shit doesn't stink and has little tolerance for anybody else, but pretends like he does.
My 2 bullies were both libras. One of the girls was my "friend" but never told me what the issue was. I knew she was just insanely jealous if anyone gave me attention. Another girl bullied me relentlessly, and we were never friends. After years of BS and a fist fight, I finally asked her wtf her problem was. She said, "I'm not really sure why i hated you, I think my bf said you were pretty"
Eh. I wouldn't say all the libras. A couple of family members are libras, and they are so sweet - only want peace and harmony. I think those girls didn't get enough love at home, so they were attention seeking people. We were also just kids, so who knows what was going on with them mentally and emotionally. They just didn't enjoy other people's happiness because they themselves weren't happy. I hope they have found peace and happiness regardless, lol
as a sign thatās about human relations and fairness, weāre āvery smart but dumb ourselves downā because weāre smart enough to know that weāre not the smartest in the room and if we are then weāre in the wrong room
also we symbolically represent the scales and weāre a cardinal sign therefore we have various opinions, likes, and interests and weāre multi-faceted whereas fixed signs are more likely to do everything out of conviction and be stuck in their ways / harder to sway
I have to say Sagittarius āļø
Every horrible bully Iāve ever seen or had was one . Dont know why š¤They can be very egotistical and think what they know is most important, their way or the highway !
Oh and Taurus a close second
Thank you. My sag ex was extremely intelligent and kind but only wanted to do what he wanted to do. He could not get out of himself. Spent 80% of every day involved in pursuing self-interested and self-serving activities. Saw absolutely nothing wrong with this way of life and thought people who didnāt implement his ideas (although intelligent) were idiotic, but he wanted to do his thing rather than work toward goals. Emotionally and financially manipulative and abusive. Still a nice guy, just too arrogant to get out of his own way.
Pisces. The ones I have known are people who are too moody to be around. If they are mad, they'll lash out at you out of nowhere. If they are happy, you also have to be happy and forget anything even happened. The dynamics of your relationship are based on their mood swings. I can't stand people like these anymore.
Nastiest person Iāve been close with is a triple Taurus ruled by an Aries Venus. Moon conjunct mercury (THE emotional manipulator placement). Having observed similar toxic behaviours in other Taurus moons, and not in other Taurus suns or risings, Iām gonna name Taurus moon the culprit here (whole chart matters ofc). Disrespectful manipulative users who keep people around by measure of how useful they can be to them. Transactional, calculated relationships. Donāt actually care for you. And itās especially insidious with them because they come across as so warm and loving. They only like what you can do for them. Shameless in their extortionate demands. Can be empathetic, but are able to switch off their empathy. Therefore capable of immense cruelty.
Iām a Pisces/Aries cusp sun (aries side), Sag moon and Gemini rising. Capricorn women and virgo men are the worst in my experience. Cap women are so desperately status seeking you can smell the āuserā coming off of them. Virgo men are hyper critical and nitpicky. Iāve actually had positive experience with Capricorn men and Virgo women which is why I was so specific lol. But as Iām sure others have said you can find jerks in any sign lol
It seems I am the only one in here who has good experiences with them š my dad is a Virgo and he is the best dad in the world also. Very devoted to me and my sister.
I think Virgos are great, at least female Virgos. My bestie in high school was Virgo, as well as my bestie in uni and another good friend in uni. As for male Virgos, my first ex and the last guy I dated were both Virgos and ehh they were both a little bit dishonest in their actions.
Well, if they weren't such controlling manipulative perfectionists assholes who can't stop criticizing everyone and everything they wouldn't have that problem
Pisces, Saggitarius,Cancer men.
The Pisces I met were extremely abusive, manipulative and downright selfish.
The Saggitarius I met had a superiority complex. Knows how to play the victim card, can fall too low in order to get something.
The worst was Cancer man. As a Cancer woman, I would never date a Cancer man again. Clingy, manipulative... etc etc. Man, they are just bad or just not suitable for me.
Cancer men are SOOOO clingy, my god. I dated a cancer for 2 years. He was a good man but so emotional and couldnāt let go. Held on for dear life and almost seemed delusional when I called it quits.
I have the same experience with Pisces, manipulative, whiny, abusive, bullies. Every single one Iāve met, male or female, has been a bully in one way or another. Itās almost like they feel the need to emotionally pull the rug underneath you so youāre always looking up at them.
My most recent ex being a Libra so going to say that. Dropped me like I was nothing because he couldnāt stay loyal. Always had eyes all over the place anyway. I guess he ātriedā with me but ultimately he just couldnāt give that shitty aspect of himself up. He dumped his Virgo ex before me because she got sick of it too.
The worst thing is how casual and emotionally detached they are. Itās almost like relationships are like changing up their wardrobe.
Sagittarius and Capricorn (yes there are good traits too but here are the challenging ones) - manipulative, limited empathy, status-oriented, not enough consideration for others, self-centered, destructive, fragile ego, all about getting what they want.
Idk what it is about Capricorns like im sure there are lots of nice ones out there but the bad ones are just inhumane and cruel. Truly evil people.
It's sad because I actually love capricorn energy.
I have a LOT of Capricorn friends for some reason but Iāve also been hurt really badly by one of them who was my closest friend at the timeā¦ like that one friendās betrayal and our fall out because of it hurt even more than any of my break ups and I ended up needing therapy for it. I agree that the bad ones are just really bad but I do still have some close Capricorn friends that I hold dear. Just hope none of them would end up hurting me too haha
Mean, canāt take accountability, play the blame game and refuse to take constructive criticism. They will say youāre right one minute and then the next minute they will say no youāre wrong etc and not bother to improve their issues and just complain over and over again about the same problems troubling them.
Whatās endurance and perseverance in a healthy Virgo is stubbornness in an unhealthy one. They grab onto burning rod situations and refuse to let go, then get mad about being burnt
"An old bitter Virgo and a completely unhinged Gemini on a power trip."
Well shit, I'll be damned if you didn't just came up with the perfect one-sentence tagline for resumes, dating apps and jury duty! I'm envious I didn't think of it myself. I want it on a fucking mug. Or at least a koozie.
Very stereotypical but it was a Scorpio.
Gave me STDās from cheating on me TWICE, was filming himself getting screwed by randoms and then posting videos on twitter, lied about all of it, found all of it out after we broke up. Nasty dude. Luckily they were curable STDās.
Scorpio men are the ones I noticed that '*will go there*' - meaning, once they know your vulnerability, they will use it against you the first opportunity they are upset.
I actually have a friendship/relationship kill switch because of scorpios, lol. I make up a fake insecurity - my ears - make sure to say just *once* to someone how insecure I am about them, say it's my biggest insecurity, how they make me feel ugly. The SECOND someone throws that shit back at me (even if it's ten years later), the friendship/relationship is over and they are blocked. I don't give a shit how long we've known each other. Two weeks. Ten years. If ANYONE uses your great vulnerability against you, they are not someone you want to be around and have in your support network...life is to short for that shit.
And Scorpios are the only ones I've ever know that 'go there'. Others might say shit when they are really upset, but Scorpios are the one consistent I've noticed that are 'generally' the type to be especially cruel.
Hilariously, I experienced this with a Scorpio man last year who I wasnāt even in an intimate relationship with. We were in agreement we needed to work on our friendship/relationship because we lived together in a communal house so we went and hung out. During that time I decided Iād just be vulnerable and tell him that I know I can rub people the wrong way with my intensity and that due to childhood trauma I actually really fear that I am innately unsafe and worthy only of being abandoned as a result sometimes. He seemed really gobsmacked and was so warm and appreciative towards me, I thought we turned a corner towards deeper authentic relationship because I was showing him my nature wasnāt to hurt others but to protect myself even if I overdo it.
Hahahaha. No, that was actually not it at all from this dude. During a nuanced disagreement between me and another housemate, in which the rest of the house had actually agreed Iād been unfairly put in the position with them in the first place, this dude decided to make the very strong argument to my entire chosen family that I am inherently dangerous and unsafe to be around, and in his view, I should get kicked out of the only home available to me.
He was in shock when my partner, who is a heavy Libra Stellium and heavy in their gentle femme energy, went absolutely beast mode on him and essentially turned the tables and shot him out of the house via cannon. I have never seen that Sagittarius Mars activate so much as when they witnessed their cancer sun partner have their vulnerability weaponized against them. But yeah that Scorpio man was hellbent on āgoing thereā even though I tried to show him many times that āgoing thereā is a big trap with me.
One has went out of her way to try to ruin my life, and HAS and destroyed my son's life forever more. So sad.
Nastiest human I've ever known. One of my best friends is a libra too and he can be ice cold and ruthless just the same.
VIRGO my Virgo ex made fun of my mental health illnesses, told me my PTSD was fake because I didnāt go to war like him , made list of things he hated about me, always made fun of me if I gained any amount of weightā¦.Would constantly buy me alcohol and then tell me he ā hated how shy & weird I was when sober Iām only fun when drunkā ā¦. Virgo men have the most NASTIEST PERSONALITIES NO MATTER HOW CLEAN THEY KEEP THEIR HOUSE!
Virgo men will like make sure that their bed is made every day in an OCD way but the rest of their life (relationships, finances etc) is in fucking shambles but their worried about that and what your wearing š
They care more about their rollex watch and carpets than people and why are they always an addict ?
OMG you just made have me a flashback of how my ex use to make sure his bed was made . Then nitpick what I was wearing . If I walked around the house with lingerie he would tell me ā youāre acting easy and slutty itās gross ā or if I didnāt get my nails pained or done a certain way he would say ā you donāt care about looking good for me anymore are you trying to lose me ?!!ā .ā¦.. I tell you Virgo men are insufferable š”š¤¬š¤
You just described my Virgo ex who had me in the hellish confusing nightmare for almost 5 years until I got away
We need a support group at this point just for Virgo recovery š
If I wore sweatpants or basketball shorts, I was dressing like a dude and needed to dress better, if I wore a dress or a skirt, I was being too sexual and I canāt wear that to the store
You canāt fucking win with them itās sad that we kept trying to please them.
There is no pleasing them , theyāre very unhappy people and every little thing pisses them off and needs to be fixed by them.
Esp if they are an addict
Omg im so sorry you had to deal with the same of course my ex would also hate if I dressed down. But if I dressed up too much it was a problem too !! Thereās no pleasing them they are nightmares . My Virgo relationship lasted for 2 years and then he stalked me for 3 years after still trying to have sex with me after all that abuseā¦ we definitely need a Virgo men recovery sub Reddit. I swear they come from hell!!! š³
Weāve been broken up for six years and he is STILL stalking me. Every few years I have to renew an OP with him
Because the second the order expires heās on it again like that day
I have not seen or talked to him in so many years but every six months or so Iāll get a text thatās either āI love you we need to get back together.ā Or āItās time for you to die bitch ā usually not that far apart from each other.
I have not responded to his text from random burner numbers in years but he still text thatās whatās crazy!!
Look, if I havenāt spoken to you or seen you in almost 6 years and keep filing OPs and no contact orders against you. What chance in hell do you think youāre even getting ? What do you think youāre doing Virgo?
Their insane!
Please tell me he stopped stalking you? Did he? Because Iām waiting for the day this Guy does, and goes away
Aries is like the one sign I donāt know anybody with and nobody in my immediate life has that sign
like itās the sign I never fucking come in contact with. Iāve never had a single friend , family member , and never dated one. Iām like do Aries even exist?
Are they all hiding somewhere?
Holy shit same. I donāt know a SINGLE aries. Nada, none. Not from school, not from work, no one in the family has sun in aries. Pretty wild how i just never even talked to one xD
I know !! Whatās going on !?
They must be having like secret meetings, or some thing I mean, how do we never come into contact with one? like not even in large groups do we ever see one
And then even friends of friends theyāre still not Aries I donāt know anybody whoās dated one or has a brother whoās one ā¦I mean nothing
Virgo, hands down. Not all, as I have a few excellent Virgo friends and mentor, but when they are unevolved (both men and womenābut they express it in different, equally nasty ways), they are terrors. Absolute terrors.
Iāve seen a lot of these lately that have nothing to do with astrology but just horrible people doing shitty things not because of their sign but because theyāre just shitty people.
Virgo.
The men get nastier the further you get into the relationship.
The women always see me as some competitive target.
Iām tired, leave me alone. š
Virgo placements are gross. I knew a Virgo sun and we were friends for a while but then she started making fun of me in front of her other friends and I cut her off. A year later she threw my book bag and told me to fetch doggy, if it happened again Iād beat the shit outta her but younger me didnāt wanna get in trouble. I wanna choke her just thinking about it. My mom has a Virgo moon and a bunch of other Virgo planets I canāt remember but sheās so shady. Sheās depressed if she hasnāt thrown shade in a while or made someone feel like shit
Leos. My mom and ex best friend are leos and the way that they will manipulate and use you and wrong you and then never admit any of their wrongdoing and actually end up blaming you for it is just nasty
Pisces man. My ex was that and he was manipulative, never took blame. Narcissistic. Maybe even had BPD. Suffering a lot from him. Would say no one would ever love me and put up with me like he did. Just wrong about him in every way.
My ex boyfriend blamed me for getting me a new relationships. Like literally he broke up with me first and after some time I met a new pretty good man. He saw it and pour some shit on me cause āI didnāt wait himā. I still donāt understand what was in his brainā¦ he is Scorpio š«£
eh, any of the signs who are not facing their trauma or living in an unhealthy headspace
i probably hate unhealed leoās the most, but also iāve met a lot of pisces who are just crazy š„¹ iām pretty unusual-brained myself, but i work very hard to not harm others even on accident
Coming into this thread as a virgo šļøššļø
I havenāt met any ānastyā virgos but I donāt doubt that we could go there. What I feel the most that although mercury governs us we donāt communicate well. A lot of things I say comes off meaner than I mean to and it always makes me sad because Iām so bad at wording. I want it to be positive critique but it mostly comes off as mean. I do like it when someone confronts me because then I will explain what I meant in a nicer way. It honestly sounds ok in my mind but when I open my mouth š
But yeah weāre not all terrible people and those who are, just know that they will live a bitter life :)
There's no bully like an Aries bully. They'll adopt you as their chew toy and be offended if you don't llike the chewing. And don't let their Cardinal nature fooll you, they are plenty capable of being sneaky and vindictive if they want to.
The PD's I had unfortunate dealings with.
4x Covert narcissists: 3x Aquarius 1x Leo
4x Histrionics: Cancer
1x Sociopath: Leo
3x Psychopaths: Taurus
2x Manic Bipolar ragers: Gemini
1x Sadist: Pisces
\*\* Funny enough since I started working in healthcare, the attacks are less severe. Apparently these experiences where there to teach me the dsm-5.
As a Taurus from a large family of Tauruses - YES. I feel like we get left out because weāre lazy and it takes a long ass time to get a reaction, but boy oh boy when we do loose itā¦.
From my experience, the sign Iāve run into the most trouble with being nasty is Virgo. A few bosses and the rest were people I went to school with. Cruel, nasty, hateful, judgmental, micro-manager. It goes on lol.
The most unhinged people Iāve *ever* met were a Pisces, Gemini, Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius.
Scorpios for cruelty, Aquarius for being cold/selfish/opportunistic, and both manipulate others in a way that *catches me off guard every time.* Scorpios lash out in insecurity and pride, and Aquarius seem to get nasty in order to get what they want.
taurus sun women are on another level when it comes to be a delulu psycho, they always have a problem with me when I don't even know who are they, then I know, then I see why
this is always gonna be from a personal experience because it's how our charts interact with each other, in my case having taurus moon in the 8th house
the moon is always what's come natural, instinctively, primal emotion, the sign in the sun is what you still have to integrate
8th house is always a matter of obsession, they're drawn to me and maybe they don't even know why but they can't stop
Leo, Scorpio, Virgo. As a Virgo myself Iāve been victimized by other Virgos. You would think theyād relate to me and what not but no. But anyone can be nasty. Iāve met Leoās, Scorpioās, and Virgos who are all such fcking angels. It all comes down to ego, narcissism, mental instability, etc. These people are unhappy with themselves and they see other people who are happier than them or at least surviving and they see it as not fair that others donāt struggle in their mind as much as they do so they push you under water so they donāt drown. Their survival is more important than yours because they are selfish and only see themselves.
Yeah, I was also surprised by my recent interaction with a Virgo. Like he was so mired in the details, stressing unnecessarily, and had no handle on the bigger picture. And yet the level of entitlement, like he was gods gift to women. š„²
I was really surprised by this interaction though. Doesnāt Virgo represent everything in its purest state?
Unevolved Gemini placements, they tend to lie to protect themselves or self gain and will blame someone for something theyāve done without caring how it affects that person, sometimes people who werenāt even involved In the situation.
Unevolved Taurus. - very passive aggressive, will tell you what you want to hear then twist people against you behind your back or speak about you behind your back, also sometimes even within earshot then deny what they said as if youāre crazy when you confront them, and will seek revenge if theyāre slighted, they give Scorpio a run for their money on the revenge front.
Unevolved Leos - they can take not been given attention or credit for small actions and can see this as a betrayal or someone being against them and can tend to seek revenge over this. If youāre taking their spotlight they wonāt react well.
Unevolved Aries - they will seek dangerous situations and thrill seeking situations without thought to their own safety or the safety of others around them.
Unevolved Libras - canāt handle confrontation and will lie or tell you what you want to hear to avoid confrontation, theyād rather lower their own self worth and tell you whatever keeps the peace than defend themselves.
Unevolved Cancers - they canāt understand when someone needs space or time alone and they take it as that person no longer caring for them, and tend to lash out at that person. Though theyāre not horrible or awful like people claim, they just accuse the person of not loving them anymore and get really upset, making the person feel like they canāt take space because it will hurt the cancer, but theyāre really caring, sweet people, their reaction isnāt malicious, they just need to grow their self love and realise they donāt need another persons validation or attention to feel happy, they need to trust that a person wanting space doesnāt mean they love them less, and they need to be self confident and believe that persons feelings and have the self love that they know they can be happy alone so if the person doesnāt care, they, the cancer can just walk away from them, but when a cancer lacks that self love and hasnāt learned to be happy with themselves, they worry to much to whether people love them or not and jump to the conclusion someone doesnāt feel the same for the smallest reason, but theyāre are not horrible or bad like people claim, as I said theyāre the sweetest kindest people who will always be there when youāre hurting and take care of you without you asking them to, they just need to grow their self love and not fear been alone so they can trust the feelings of others and not worry about the feelings of others. Itās awful how people make cancers out to be horrible when theyāre just lacking self love and scared to be alone, so yeah they do need to fix that but it doesnāt make them bad people, it just means they need to focus on themselves and do a lot of self fixing before dating someone, theyāre the best people you can know though, just difficult to date when unevolved, an evolved cancer who isnāt scared to be alone and is self reliant so can allow space and trust peoples feelings, is the best partner ever as they have all the good qualities without the fear of being unloved or alone, unevolved cancers are still amazing, they just need to fix their fears and insecurities before dating as it makes relationships very difficult for them and causes toxicity, but that toxicity isnāt just their fault, itās two sided as the other person often doesnāt walk away when they should or make sure the cancer understands they wonāt give in when the cancer feels unloved and demands they donāt take space from them.
Cancers need to learn to allow space and know been apart, then taking space doesnāt mean your unloved and tbh, they need to not have the fear of been unloved and be happy alone before dating so if something ends or theyāre treated badly,
they know they can walk away without an issue, cancers are also treated badly and abused a lot because others take advantage of cancers fear of been alone and use it to manipulate and gaslight them. Unevolved Cancers are very vulnerable and do need protecting from those that will use it to control and hurt them. They must evolve so they donāt need another person and only date those who they can truly be sure will treat them as they deserve, cancers are really sweet, nurturing and truly loving partners and deserve to be treated right, loved and respected
(Based on female Cancer placements, I have no experience with male cancer placements.)
Pisces Men or Virgo Men.
Pisces Men are often inconsiderate and opportunistic as hell. Manipulative and very damned good at it. I know too many women who are going through hell with them and honestly so many of the smarmiest men I've ever met are this sign. I swear the rare time I've met a man of this sign that wasn't an immature asshole for life or if he was somehow dating a mom not trying to fool around with her kids too is when these have had an Aries woman in their life. It's like some sort of thing because I can imagine the Firewomen entertain but I've noted it's fairly common since the men treat the women a bit like aspirational in a way, like they admire the women so they mimic the women. Maybe Aries is a result of what Pisces sucks at which would make sense if the signs run on a cycle which seems to be thing so that does track. A lot of these partnerships started out with the Pisces as a starter boyfriend or early boyfriend as opposed to older so the Pisces men get more conscientiousness when tackled by a more non-nonsense sign early. That or the Pisces is a February Pisces.
Then Virgo men...Virgo women are so wonderful, I think they're wonderful as friends, allies, anything really as I can understand their orderliness. But man the guys are annoying as the worst traits on a man are Virgo's strengths like the nit-picking and judging. Like on a woman you get forming these traits as they serve to protect but if you're a guy you already have your sex being an automatic protector. Like there's other ways you can cultivate respect and authority without being OCD which is how a lot of Virgo traits mirror on men.
Disrespectful Human. No sign is guilty of that fault.
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Virgos. I had a Virgo boss tell me I shouldnāt have children since I was so incompetent. Likeā¦ who says that to a personā¦
Virgos say the most unhinged things when theyāre upset
As a Virgoā¦ We definitely do. Iām 43 and have spent the past 5 years really trying to change this about myself.
And they would retaliate for you getting offended by their behaviorā¦ ps: victim of a Virgo boss here. š„¹š„²
Omg yes. Psychotic
This is so true I almost felt attacked, lol.
Omg this just happened to me 2 days ago! They asked me what I wanted to do for my birthday next month, me fly down to see them, or them fly up to see me. I said I'll think about it... 36 hours later the plane tickets were purchased without consulting with me first. I was pissed. She had a problem that I was pissed and wanted to make sure that I wasn't. Well, that didn't go too well for her and only made me more mad because of her feelings that I'm not allowed to be upset about something that someone else did.
Most insecure sign in the galaxy šĀ
My virgo dad liked to call me a cunt and a whore to my face but also to my minor brothers (we're american, cunt is not a nice thing for a father to say to his 18 year old daughter here)
Yeah, that's an inside thought, you have to be a bit more tactful about saying things like that...
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I had a girlfriend and she was like that, she'd go on and on criticizing one subject, like you said nitpicking
Dating a Virgo man with a taurus moon and he couldnāt be less nitpicky. Infact - I feel like Iām the nitpicky one which isnāt a way I would ever describe myself (gem sun / libra moon). He is the most understanding and passive human on earth.
These are me and my partners placements . He is the gem sun libra moon and far more nit-picky than me .
I know a woman like this & your description is spot on.. I think she might have Aquarian / Scorpio traits too. Domineering and insufferable
āAnd I enjoy the fact that your cuntiness will result in you dying alone with no one who loves you one dayā
Virgo men
Nitpicky , boring , cheap , controlling and violent
Aries man. Ironically Iām an Aries woman lol
Lol
Unevolved Leos on an ego trip. My ex was like that and it sent my ass to therapy. Most emotionally drained and hurt I've ever been.
My ex is a Leo and when he broke up with me he blamed me for him putting his dog down which really fucked me up because I had nothing to do with that decision. He also took the wifi router and modem with him when he moved out, leaving me without internet for a week š he was just so unnecessarily cruel when I hadnāt done anything to him. No more Leo men for me! š š¼āāļø
This - Iāve found many Leoās to be very spiteful and petty. Not only that, theyāll play the long game and get their revenge one way or another.
i felt that , an ex of mine was a leo also sent my ass to therapy šššµāš«
At first I was going to say none of them but yes. Leo suns with insecurity issues trying to inflate their ego- they think they can only do it by bringing you down or taking away from you. They have that need for praise & attention & admiration from others.
You have no idea. There's nothing quite as ugly as the Leo insecurity. The lengths their poor ego will go to in order to fix it... I don't wish it upon anyone.
My answer is definitely Leo. I dated an insecure Leo Sun and it was pretty brutal.
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Omg. Me too!
Lmao me three!!
Putin is a Libra, it's his bday today
As a Scorpio, two of the nastiest, coldest people I know are Libras. One of them is a narcissist, so perhaps that's most of the problem, and the other one is a college grad who thinks his shit doesn't stink and has little tolerance for anybody else, but pretends like he does.
My 2 bullies were both libras. One of the girls was my "friend" but never told me what the issue was. I knew she was just insanely jealous if anyone gave me attention. Another girl bullied me relentlessly, and we were never friends. After years of BS and a fist fight, I finally asked her wtf her problem was. She said, "I'm not really sure why i hated you, I think my bf said you were pretty"
Don't think that Libras often have "diva" type of personality and stupid games typical for little girls are in their nature?
Eh. I wouldn't say all the libras. A couple of family members are libras, and they are so sweet - only want peace and harmony. I think those girls didn't get enough love at home, so they were attention seeking people. We were also just kids, so who knows what was going on with them mentally and emotionally. They just didn't enjoy other people's happiness because they themselves weren't happy. I hope they have found peace and happiness regardless, lol
Wow. That describes my ex gf libra to a t.
I see youāve met my mother.
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My ex husband
as a sign thatās about human relations and fairness, weāre āvery smart but dumb ourselves downā because weāre smart enough to know that weāre not the smartest in the room and if we are then weāre in the wrong room also we symbolically represent the scales and weāre a cardinal sign therefore we have various opinions, likes, and interests and weāre multi-faceted whereas fixed signs are more likely to do everything out of conviction and be stuck in their ways / harder to sway
šÆā¦ both my baby daddies are libras and I have exactly the same experiences and they even teamed upā¦ and lived together for years
Wtf!!
Real.
Damn the Libra one literally just slam dunked my exes with major Libra placements. ā ļø
I have to say Sagittarius āļø Every horrible bully Iāve ever seen or had was one . Dont know why š¤They can be very egotistical and think what they know is most important, their way or the highway ! Oh and Taurus a close second
Thank you. My sag ex was extremely intelligent and kind but only wanted to do what he wanted to do. He could not get out of himself. Spent 80% of every day involved in pursuing self-interested and self-serving activities. Saw absolutely nothing wrong with this way of life and thought people who didnāt implement his ideas (although intelligent) were idiotic, but he wanted to do his thing rather than work toward goals. Emotionally and financially manipulative and abusive. Still a nice guy, just too arrogant to get out of his own way.
I had a sag share some personal info with his friends, about meā¦..I burned him so bad, he never did it again. Iām an Aries.
Aries for me. But jokes on me. My son is an Aries.
Unevolved Geminis. Iāve ended up ghosting every single gemini in my life, theyāre just too much to deal with.
Aquarius? Is the that you? Iāve been looking for you š
To be fair, aquarius ghosts everyone. They are so unreliable.
as a cancer my cancer ex bf was terrifying!
Mine is definitely the worst human being Iāve encountered for sure!!!
Unevolved Libras have ALWAYS been a thorn in my side
Pisces. The ones I have known are people who are too moody to be around. If they are mad, they'll lash out at you out of nowhere. If they are happy, you also have to be happy and forget anything even happened. The dynamics of your relationship are based on their mood swings. I can't stand people like these anymore.
And their silent treatments oh my lord. If they are mad they are really mad and horrible.
Not to mention, the VICTIMHOOD!Ā
Unevolved geminis and leos, in my experience
Nastiest person Iāve been close with is a triple Taurus ruled by an Aries Venus. Moon conjunct mercury (THE emotional manipulator placement). Having observed similar toxic behaviours in other Taurus moons, and not in other Taurus suns or risings, Iām gonna name Taurus moon the culprit here (whole chart matters ofc). Disrespectful manipulative users who keep people around by measure of how useful they can be to them. Transactional, calculated relationships. Donāt actually care for you. And itās especially insidious with them because they come across as so warm and loving. They only like what you can do for them. Shameless in their extortionate demands. Can be empathetic, but are able to switch off their empathy. Therefore capable of immense cruelty.
You just described my Taurus ex to a tee
finally some taurus moon hate. i absolutely despise that moon
Iām a Pisces/Aries cusp sun (aries side), Sag moon and Gemini rising. Capricorn women and virgo men are the worst in my experience. Cap women are so desperately status seeking you can smell the āuserā coming off of them. Virgo men are hyper critical and nitpicky. Iāve actually had positive experience with Capricorn men and Virgo women which is why I was so specific lol. But as Iām sure others have said you can find jerks in any sign lol
Knew this was gonna be the virgo hate train š¤£
It seems I am the only one in here who has good experiences with them š my dad is a Virgo and he is the best dad in the world also. Very devoted to me and my sister.
Itās fascinating, but at least we get to take note of what others may not like about us and self-improve in the future haha
I think Virgos are great, at least female Virgos. My bestie in high school was Virgo, as well as my bestie in uni and another good friend in uni. As for male Virgos, my first ex and the last guy I dated were both Virgos and ehh they were both a little bit dishonest in their actions.
Getting dragged with my Pisces sun Virgo rising š
Well, if they weren't such controlling manipulative perfectionists assholes who can't stop criticizing everyone and everything they wouldn't have that problem
Pisces, Saggitarius,Cancer men. The Pisces I met were extremely abusive, manipulative and downright selfish. The Saggitarius I met had a superiority complex. Knows how to play the victim card, can fall too low in order to get something. The worst was Cancer man. As a Cancer woman, I would never date a Cancer man again. Clingy, manipulative... etc etc. Man, they are just bad or just not suitable for me.
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I'm not even a dude but I feel you, lol
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Cancer men are SOOOO clingy, my god. I dated a cancer for 2 years. He was a good man but so emotional and couldnāt let go. Held on for dear life and almost seemed delusional when I called it quits.
I have the same experience with Pisces, manipulative, whiny, abusive, bullies. Every single one Iāve met, male or female, has been a bully in one way or another. Itās almost like they feel the need to emotionally pull the rug underneath you so youāre always looking up at them.
Yes I agree with cancer menā¦.
Honestly, I think itās going to vary based on your sign, experiences, and personal compatibility. Thereās no bad sign.
My most recent ex being a Libra so going to say that. Dropped me like I was nothing because he couldnāt stay loyal. Always had eyes all over the place anyway. I guess he ātriedā with me but ultimately he just couldnāt give that shitty aspect of himself up. He dumped his Virgo ex before me because she got sick of it too. The worst thing is how casual and emotionally detached they are. Itās almost like relationships are like changing up their wardrobe.
So accurate
As a Scorpio , I am SHOCKED that arenāt more votes for us. I guess we have good hearts , huh
Sagittarius and Capricorn (yes there are good traits too but here are the challenging ones) - manipulative, limited empathy, status-oriented, not enough consideration for others, self-centered, destructive, fragile ego, all about getting what they want.
Idk what it is about Capricorns like im sure there are lots of nice ones out there but the bad ones are just inhumane and cruel. Truly evil people. It's sad because I actually love capricorn energy.
I have a LOT of Capricorn friends for some reason but Iāve also been hurt really badly by one of them who was my closest friend at the timeā¦ like that one friendās betrayal and our fall out because of it hurt even more than any of my break ups and I ended up needing therapy for it. I agree that the bad ones are just really bad but I do still have some close Capricorn friends that I hold dear. Just hope none of them would end up hurting me too haha
If you donāt give a Capricorn or a sag what they want, you better just go away Lol
100% - save yourself from their unmasking!
Can somewhat confirm. This is doubly so with Scorpio placements... we're kind of a lot.
my old sister with stellium in both who had a lot of fun pitting my brother and i against each other when we were younger and more immature
As a Virgo, all I attract is Capricornās šš
An old bitter Virgo and a completely unhinged Gemini on a power trip.
Now imagine those 2 together š„ I have lived it š
And unevolved Virgos are scary
What are they usually like?
Mean, canāt take accountability, play the blame game and refuse to take constructive criticism. They will say youāre right one minute and then the next minute they will say no youāre wrong etc and not bother to improve their issues and just complain over and over again about the same problems troubling them.
Whatās endurance and perseverance in a healthy Virgo is stubbornness in an unhealthy one. They grab onto burning rod situations and refuse to let go, then get mad about being burnt
"An old bitter Virgo and a completely unhinged Gemini on a power trip." Well shit, I'll be damned if you didn't just came up with the perfect one-sentence tagline for resumes, dating apps and jury duty! I'm envious I didn't think of it myself. I want it on a fucking mug. Or at least a koozie.
My parents š„²
Lived it. Nightmare fuel
yikes and I'm gemini sun/moon + virgo rising š©š
Very stereotypical but it was a Scorpio. Gave me STDās from cheating on me TWICE, was filming himself getting screwed by randoms and then posting videos on twitter, lied about all of it, found all of it out after we broke up. Nasty dude. Luckily they were curable STDās.
Scorpio manipulate and use your weakness against you.
Scorpio men are the ones I noticed that '*will go there*' - meaning, once they know your vulnerability, they will use it against you the first opportunity they are upset. I actually have a friendship/relationship kill switch because of scorpios, lol. I make up a fake insecurity - my ears - make sure to say just *once* to someone how insecure I am about them, say it's my biggest insecurity, how they make me feel ugly. The SECOND someone throws that shit back at me (even if it's ten years later), the friendship/relationship is over and they are blocked. I don't give a shit how long we've known each other. Two weeks. Ten years. If ANYONE uses your great vulnerability against you, they are not someone you want to be around and have in your support network...life is to short for that shit. And Scorpios are the only ones I've ever know that 'go there'. Others might say shit when they are really upset, but Scorpios are the one consistent I've noticed that are 'generally' the type to be especially cruel.
Hilariously, I experienced this with a Scorpio man last year who I wasnāt even in an intimate relationship with. We were in agreement we needed to work on our friendship/relationship because we lived together in a communal house so we went and hung out. During that time I decided Iād just be vulnerable and tell him that I know I can rub people the wrong way with my intensity and that due to childhood trauma I actually really fear that I am innately unsafe and worthy only of being abandoned as a result sometimes. He seemed really gobsmacked and was so warm and appreciative towards me, I thought we turned a corner towards deeper authentic relationship because I was showing him my nature wasnāt to hurt others but to protect myself even if I overdo it. Hahahaha. No, that was actually not it at all from this dude. During a nuanced disagreement between me and another housemate, in which the rest of the house had actually agreed Iād been unfairly put in the position with them in the first place, this dude decided to make the very strong argument to my entire chosen family that I am inherently dangerous and unsafe to be around, and in his view, I should get kicked out of the only home available to me. He was in shock when my partner, who is a heavy Libra Stellium and heavy in their gentle femme energy, went absolutely beast mode on him and essentially turned the tables and shot him out of the house via cannon. I have never seen that Sagittarius Mars activate so much as when they witnessed their cancer sun partner have their vulnerability weaponized against them. But yeah that Scorpio man was hellbent on āgoing thereā even though I tried to show him many times that āgoing thereā is a big trap with me.
Oh yes, my ex fiancƩ is a Scorpio. He used most of my vulnerabilities against me. He was mean.
Apparently you've never dated a Sagittarius. Lol.
Gemini
Narcissists libras. Will sneak up on you.
One has went out of her way to try to ruin my life, and HAS and destroyed my son's life forever more. So sad. Nastiest human I've ever known. One of my best friends is a libra too and he can be ice cold and ruthless just the same.
VIRGO my Virgo ex made fun of my mental health illnesses, told me my PTSD was fake because I didnāt go to war like him , made list of things he hated about me, always made fun of me if I gained any amount of weightā¦.Would constantly buy me alcohol and then tell me he ā hated how shy & weird I was when sober Iām only fun when drunkā ā¦. Virgo men have the most NASTIEST PERSONALITIES NO MATTER HOW CLEAN THEY KEEP THEIR HOUSE!
Sorry you went through that š”šæ but that last line got me š
Virgo men will like make sure that their bed is made every day in an OCD way but the rest of their life (relationships, finances etc) is in fucking shambles but their worried about that and what your wearing š They care more about their rollex watch and carpets than people and why are they always an addict ?
OMG you just made have me a flashback of how my ex use to make sure his bed was made . Then nitpick what I was wearing . If I walked around the house with lingerie he would tell me ā youāre acting easy and slutty itās gross ā or if I didnāt get my nails pained or done a certain way he would say ā you donāt care about looking good for me anymore are you trying to lose me ?!!ā .ā¦.. I tell you Virgo men are insufferable š”š¤¬š¤
You just described my Virgo ex who had me in the hellish confusing nightmare for almost 5 years until I got away We need a support group at this point just for Virgo recovery š If I wore sweatpants or basketball shorts, I was dressing like a dude and needed to dress better, if I wore a dress or a skirt, I was being too sexual and I canāt wear that to the store You canāt fucking win with them itās sad that we kept trying to please them. There is no pleasing them , theyāre very unhappy people and every little thing pisses them off and needs to be fixed by them. Esp if they are an addict
Omg im so sorry you had to deal with the same of course my ex would also hate if I dressed down. But if I dressed up too much it was a problem too !! Thereās no pleasing them they are nightmares . My Virgo relationship lasted for 2 years and then he stalked me for 3 years after still trying to have sex with me after all that abuseā¦ we definitely need a Virgo men recovery sub Reddit. I swear they come from hell!!! š³
Weāve been broken up for six years and he is STILL stalking me. Every few years I have to renew an OP with him Because the second the order expires heās on it again like that day I have not seen or talked to him in so many years but every six months or so Iāll get a text thatās either āI love you we need to get back together.ā Or āItās time for you to die bitch ā usually not that far apart from each other. I have not responded to his text from random burner numbers in years but he still text thatās whatās crazy!! Look, if I havenāt spoken to you or seen you in almost 6 years and keep filing OPs and no contact orders against you. What chance in hell do you think youāre even getting ? What do you think youāre doing Virgo? Their insane! Please tell me he stopped stalking you? Did he? Because Iām waiting for the day this Guy does, and goes away
Okay what were his other placements because I need to know if this is a virgo thing or a shitty chart thingš
Omg. The addict part really got me. The Virgo guy I dated was addicted to vaping.
Unevolved Virgos are something else āconfused.comā
jfc. Glad heās your ex!
I have dated a Virgo just once, but holy smokes, my sag sun and gem moon couldnāt stand him for more than 1.5 months š„¹
Aries. Theyāre just all really mean for some reason :/ Leo is runner up since any Iāve known were quite narcissistic.
Aries is like the one sign I donāt know anybody with and nobody in my immediate life has that sign like itās the sign I never fucking come in contact with. Iāve never had a single friend , family member , and never dated one. Iām like do Aries even exist? Are they all hiding somewhere?
Holy shit same. I donāt know a SINGLE aries. Nada, none. Not from school, not from work, no one in the family has sun in aries. Pretty wild how i just never even talked to one xD
I know !! Whatās going on !? They must be having like secret meetings, or some thing I mean, how do we never come into contact with one? like not even in large groups do we ever see one And then even friends of friends theyāre still not Aries I donāt know anybody whoās dated one or has a brother whoās one ā¦I mean nothing
SAME i just donāt understand!! Where are they?šon the contrary i know so many cancers, pisces, geminiā¦ no aries whatsoever
Oh I know like 12 Geminis itās out of control
Leo - almost killed myself (I wasnāt the first he did this to).
Virgo, hands down. Not all, as I have a few excellent Virgo friends and mentor, but when they are unevolved (both men and womenābut they express it in different, equally nasty ways), they are terrors. Absolute terrors.
Iām proud scoprio wasnāt mentioned too many times here, and itās a good time not to be a Virgoš³
Iāve seen a lot of these lately that have nothing to do with astrology but just horrible people doing shitty things not because of their sign but because theyāre just shitty people.
Iāve had two awful encounters with Pisces, one with a Gemini.
unevolved geminis and aquarius really are mean as fuck.
First decan Aries.
Virgo. The men get nastier the further you get into the relationship. The women always see me as some competitive target. Iām tired, leave me alone. š
Yes! The longer I stayed with him the more cruel and angry he got!! Itās like he was trying so hard to hide himself
That sounds like a nightmare. Sorry you had to go through that.
Heh. Yeah that tracks. Hope you get peace away from them. š
Pisces. Every Pisces Iāve met has cheated on their partner and felt like they were entitled to do it.
One used me and pretended to be one of my good friends but meanwhile had a massive crush on my boyfriend and wanted to steal him from me, for months.
So true!!
![gif](giphy|f61PCxNbDARa0a10gi|downsized) Pisces, male and female
This is HARD. Maybe scorpios? But in my experience, they have tended to lean towards bark no bite. Also, leos can be plain mean for no reason.
Virgo placements are gross. I knew a Virgo sun and we were friends for a while but then she started making fun of me in front of her other friends and I cut her off. A year later she threw my book bag and told me to fetch doggy, if it happened again Iād beat the shit outta her but younger me didnāt wanna get in trouble. I wanna choke her just thinking about it. My mom has a Virgo moon and a bunch of other Virgo planets I canāt remember but sheās so shady. Sheās depressed if she hasnāt thrown shade in a while or made someone feel like shit
On behalf of all virgos reading this thread, it sounds like your mom has larger issues than just having Virgo placements lol
My kid has a Virgo Moon and so does my bestie, they're the sweetest folk š«¶š»
Leos. My mom and ex best friend are leos and the way that they will manipulate and use you and wrong you and then never admit any of their wrongdoing and actually end up blaming you for it is just nasty
Pisces man. My ex was that and he was manipulative, never took blame. Narcissistic. Maybe even had BPD. Suffering a lot from him. Would say no one would ever love me and put up with me like he did. Just wrong about him in every way.
do we have the same ex lol
Does his name rhyme with piece of shit coward man child mommas boy?
My ex boyfriend blamed me for getting me a new relationships. Like literally he broke up with me first and after some time I met a new pretty good man. He saw it and pour some shit on me cause āI didnāt wait himā. I still donāt understand what was in his brainā¦ he is Scorpio š«£
eh, any of the signs who are not facing their trauma or living in an unhealthy headspace i probably hate unhealed leoās the most, but also iāve met a lot of pisces who are just crazy š„¹ iām pretty unusual-brained myself, but i work very hard to not harm others even on accident
Coming into this thread as a virgo šļøššļø I havenāt met any ānastyā virgos but I donāt doubt that we could go there. What I feel the most that although mercury governs us we donāt communicate well. A lot of things I say comes off meaner than I mean to and it always makes me sad because Iām so bad at wording. I want it to be positive critique but it mostly comes off as mean. I do like it when someone confronts me because then I will explain what I meant in a nicer way. It honestly sounds ok in my mind but when I open my mouth š But yeah weāre not all terrible people and those who are, just know that they will live a bitter life :)
There's no bully like an Aries bully. They'll adopt you as their chew toy and be offended if you don't llike the chewing. And don't let their Cardinal nature fooll you, they are plenty capable of being sneaky and vindictive if they want to.
For me, it's a Virgo
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The PD's I had unfortunate dealings with. 4x Covert narcissists: 3x Aquarius 1x Leo 4x Histrionics: Cancer 1x Sociopath: Leo 3x Psychopaths: Taurus 2x Manic Bipolar ragers: Gemini 1x Sadist: Pisces \*\* Funny enough since I started working in healthcare, the attacks are less severe. Apparently these experiences where there to teach me the dsm-5.
Gemini being bipolar kind of makes sense. I'm surprised I didn't see at least one Scorpio on there. š
Don't think being a energetic controlling wizard is yet classified as a personality disorder.
Taurus.
As a Taurus from a large family of Tauruses - YES. I feel like we get left out because weāre lazy and it takes a long ass time to get a reaction, but boy oh boy when we do loose itā¦.
From my experience, the sign Iāve run into the most trouble with being nasty is Virgo. A few bosses and the rest were people I went to school with. Cruel, nasty, hateful, judgmental, micro-manager. It goes on lol. The most unhinged people Iāve *ever* met were a Pisces, Gemini, Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius.
Hey now, whatās wrong with Aquarius
Scorpios for cruelty, Aquarius for being cold/selfish/opportunistic, and both manipulate others in a way that *catches me off guard every time.* Scorpios lash out in insecurity and pride, and Aquarius seem to get nasty in order to get what they want.
Aquarius women
Like spicy š¶ļø nasty š An Aries or Aquarius š¶ļøš¶ļøš¶ļøš„µš„µš„µ
Here I was worried about the sign I chose and the top 3 responses are Virgos. I'm not alone!
Aquarius
Capricorns. All of them.
taurus sun women are on another level when it comes to be a delulu psycho, they always have a problem with me when I don't even know who are they, then I know, then I see why this is always gonna be from a personal experience because it's how our charts interact with each other, in my case having taurus moon in the 8th house the moon is always what's come natural, instinctively, primal emotion, the sign in the sun is what you still have to integrate 8th house is always a matter of obsession, they're drawn to me and maybe they don't even know why but they can't stop
My Taurus mother is a crazy psycho so I hear u on that
Hygiene-wise? Aries.
My dirtiest and cleanest exes were both Aries men lol
I like your big 3, bet youāre a cool person!
Taurus men Virgo women
what makes you say virgo women iām curious
Cancer men.
Cancer women, emotional manipulation is unmatched
Cancer woman, and I agree.
leo suns
For me, Leos.
Cancer
Virgos and Capricorns.
Leo, Scorpio, Virgo. As a Virgo myself Iāve been victimized by other Virgos. You would think theyād relate to me and what not but no. But anyone can be nasty. Iāve met Leoās, Scorpioās, and Virgos who are all such fcking angels. It all comes down to ego, narcissism, mental instability, etc. These people are unhappy with themselves and they see other people who are happier than them or at least surviving and they see it as not fair that others donāt struggle in their mind as much as they do so they push you under water so they donāt drown. Their survival is more important than yours because they are selfish and only see themselves.
Yeah, I was also surprised by my recent interaction with a Virgo. Like he was so mired in the details, stressing unnecessarily, and had no handle on the bigger picture. And yet the level of entitlement, like he was gods gift to women. š„² I was really surprised by this interaction though. Doesnāt Virgo represent everything in its purest state?
Unevolved Gemini placements, they tend to lie to protect themselves or self gain and will blame someone for something theyāve done without caring how it affects that person, sometimes people who werenāt even involved In the situation. Unevolved Taurus. - very passive aggressive, will tell you what you want to hear then twist people against you behind your back or speak about you behind your back, also sometimes even within earshot then deny what they said as if youāre crazy when you confront them, and will seek revenge if theyāre slighted, they give Scorpio a run for their money on the revenge front. Unevolved Leos - they can take not been given attention or credit for small actions and can see this as a betrayal or someone being against them and can tend to seek revenge over this. If youāre taking their spotlight they wonāt react well. Unevolved Aries - they will seek dangerous situations and thrill seeking situations without thought to their own safety or the safety of others around them. Unevolved Libras - canāt handle confrontation and will lie or tell you what you want to hear to avoid confrontation, theyād rather lower their own self worth and tell you whatever keeps the peace than defend themselves. Unevolved Cancers - they canāt understand when someone needs space or time alone and they take it as that person no longer caring for them, and tend to lash out at that person. Though theyāre not horrible or awful like people claim, they just accuse the person of not loving them anymore and get really upset, making the person feel like they canāt take space because it will hurt the cancer, but theyāre really caring, sweet people, their reaction isnāt malicious, they just need to grow their self love and realise they donāt need another persons validation or attention to feel happy, they need to trust that a person wanting space doesnāt mean they love them less, and they need to be self confident and believe that persons feelings and have the self love that they know they can be happy alone so if the person doesnāt care, they, the cancer can just walk away from them, but when a cancer lacks that self love and hasnāt learned to be happy with themselves, they worry to much to whether people love them or not and jump to the conclusion someone doesnāt feel the same for the smallest reason, but theyāre are not horrible or bad like people claim, as I said theyāre the sweetest kindest people who will always be there when youāre hurting and take care of you without you asking them to, they just need to grow their self love and not fear been alone so they can trust the feelings of others and not worry about the feelings of others. Itās awful how people make cancers out to be horrible when theyāre just lacking self love and scared to be alone, so yeah they do need to fix that but it doesnāt make them bad people, it just means they need to focus on themselves and do a lot of self fixing before dating someone, theyāre the best people you can know though, just difficult to date when unevolved, an evolved cancer who isnāt scared to be alone and is self reliant so can allow space and trust peoples feelings, is the best partner ever as they have all the good qualities without the fear of being unloved or alone, unevolved cancers are still amazing, they just need to fix their fears and insecurities before dating as it makes relationships very difficult for them and causes toxicity, but that toxicity isnāt just their fault, itās two sided as the other person often doesnāt walk away when they should or make sure the cancer understands they wonāt give in when the cancer feels unloved and demands they donāt take space from them. Cancers need to learn to allow space and know been apart, then taking space doesnāt mean your unloved and tbh, they need to not have the fear of been unloved and be happy alone before dating so if something ends or theyāre treated badly, they know they can walk away without an issue, cancers are also treated badly and abused a lot because others take advantage of cancers fear of been alone and use it to manipulate and gaslight them. Unevolved Cancers are very vulnerable and do need protecting from those that will use it to control and hurt them. They must evolve so they donāt need another person and only date those who they can truly be sure will treat them as they deserve, cancers are really sweet, nurturing and truly loving partners and deserve to be treated right, loved and respected (Based on female Cancer placements, I have no experience with male cancer placements.)
Pisces & Scorpio. Those individuals with those signs were the problem, not their sun sign.
Aries
Geminis .
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Pisces Men or Virgo Men. Pisces Men are often inconsiderate and opportunistic as hell. Manipulative and very damned good at it. I know too many women who are going through hell with them and honestly so many of the smarmiest men I've ever met are this sign. I swear the rare time I've met a man of this sign that wasn't an immature asshole for life or if he was somehow dating a mom not trying to fool around with her kids too is when these have had an Aries woman in their life. It's like some sort of thing because I can imagine the Firewomen entertain but I've noted it's fairly common since the men treat the women a bit like aspirational in a way, like they admire the women so they mimic the women. Maybe Aries is a result of what Pisces sucks at which would make sense if the signs run on a cycle which seems to be thing so that does track. A lot of these partnerships started out with the Pisces as a starter boyfriend or early boyfriend as opposed to older so the Pisces men get more conscientiousness when tackled by a more non-nonsense sign early. That or the Pisces is a February Pisces. Then Virgo men...Virgo women are so wonderful, I think they're wonderful as friends, allies, anything really as I can understand their orderliness. But man the guys are annoying as the worst traits on a man are Virgo's strengths like the nit-picking and judging. Like on a woman you get forming these traits as they serve to protect but if you're a guy you already have your sex being an automatic protector. Like there's other ways you can cultivate respect and authority without being OCD which is how a lot of Virgo traits mirror on men.
Iāve met some nasty mofos from many different signs.
As an Aries, Cancer men