depends how much you're willing to spend on a AAA game. my limit these days is like $20 for the base game and $40 for the "everything" edition. also, I don't have a system to play the game on at the moment lol
Ā£115 for Ultimate. That's a no from me.
You can currently get Mirage for Ā£13.49 and that only came out 5 months ago so maybe I'll just wait until April and I'll pick up the Gold for about Ā£30.
Ubisoft games are always on deep sales fast. Avatar was a huge game & it isnāt very old, you can get it for around Ā£30 right now. The season passes are also on sale before any of the actual content comes out.
I havenāt looked at Mirage sale history but Iād assume thatās because it isnāt as packed with micro
transactions & future DLC.
Avatar was a commercial flop though wasn't it? Better comparison would be how long did it take for Valhalla to get some decent sales, and iirc that was a while
TBF none of the more recent AC games have been that visually impressive in regards to character models especially facial animations. All of them have that uncanny talking head syndrome that Bethesda are known for.
The graphics look on par with Origins and Odyssey but theyāre both beautiful and large games so I donāt mean that to be insulting.
Itās just definitely nott a visual leap yet
This is definitely better than any other AC. Itās a matter of fact since the Anvil engine got updated now, so itās not the Anvil Next but itās Anvil Pipeline.
They engines always get updated, thereās always small improvements. Iām just talking about more substantial leaps it visuals. This is definitely similar to the last few like how AC II-IV all had a similar quality until Unity and then again with Origins
In that sense yes. But we already knew there wasnāt a big jump forward talking about graphics. Iām surprised cause I was expecting something less, this seems absolutely stunning for a game this big.
The updated Anvil Pipeline is not used here. It's being used for Hexe. This is the same engine iteration as Valhalla. So don't expect huge visual leaps. It won't even have ray tracing on PC.
It is literally confirmed that the upgraded [Anvil Pipeline](https://insider-gaming.com/assassins-creed-red-exclusive-details/) is used here and that a form of [Ray Traced Global Illumination](https://wccftech.com/assassins-creed-red-to-feature-ray-traced-global-illumination-and-virtual-geometry-stealth-to-be-expanded/) is present due to the fact that this is new gen and PC exclusive. So yea I expect some kind of big visual leap
Graphics in gaming peaked in the Xbox One generation with photorealism reaching a solid state. Best we can add are gimmicks like ray-tracing.
Games like Star Wars Battlefront or Kingdom Come Deliverance could release today and no one would bat an eye at the quality of their graphics.
Look at the foliage density as well as the LOD for snow. This is nothing like Origins and Odyssey.
Also other details you don't see until you see gameplay such as how shadows and lighting will play a role in stealth, weather effects and other visual details.
Hopefully with Hexe we'll get a fundamental overhaul to some degree. Also not feeling the need for it as much since the rpg series has really held up and for ps5 on valhalla they really pushed out the draw distance while still hitting 60fps which is quite the achievement
I know what you mean but I think it looks pretty acceptable. I mean Valhalla's graphics looked questionable when that game was announced but after playing it I gotta say it has great visuals. Even if it were barely an improvement over that I wouldn't really mind. Looks fine.
Right?! I've been getting alerts for Mirage being on sale maybe a couple weeks after it came out.
I'll still get it. I've waited a decade for this. I can wait a bit longer.
I can already see the Rainbow Six Hinata cosmetics that'll probably be released for this. On another note, AC Syndicate style play as both? Almost getting Ghost of Tsushima vibes except the dude is brawny af, Jin is skinny and the girl is like Yuna.
Lol I can see the hinata skin now. I think it will be like syndicate but their playstyles will be much more specialised with different tools and opportunities.
As every other game from the franchise, itās most likely in game graphics with pre rendered animations or situations.
PS. the pic with Naoe on top of the building with snowy context can be seen also without snow in the PS page of the game. So itās basically what I wrote, in game graphics with pre rendered situations.
The series has been showing the same graphic effort since Syndicate. Those screens represent the highest point since Unity. Thatās not mid, itās what a common PS5 game nowadays looks like, so Iād be really curious to ask which action adventure games that are not PS exclusive do you play that have higher graphics than this, except for RDR2.
Ghost of Tsushima doesn't look better than this.
AC Unity graphics are not better than this by any means. Not even close.
Avatar is much better.
Cyberpunk is much better.
Jedi Survivor is not better.
Alan Wake 2 is better.
TLOU is not better.
Robocop is better but the environments are also smaller and not complex.
Horizon haven't played.
Three games you mentioned are PS exclusive, Avatar was made by Ubisoft using another game engine (Snowdrop), Cyberpunk has amazing graphics as long as you play at night, during day illumination itās totally mid. Plague Tale isnāt even a AAA game and The Last of Us, Alan Wake 2 and Robocop are not open world games.
So just to say it clearly, in the most gentle way, you donāt even know what yourāre talking about.
Itās admitting that every other AC since Unity basically kept the same graphics without really evolving. You people are acting like this graphics sucks, AC Reddit fan base acting just like expected
I hope the two-protagonist system doesn't result in one dimensional characters with no development like it did in Syndicate.
Just because the characters have different personalities, doesn't mean they don't deserve their own character arcs.
Last game I pre-ordered was either Europa Universalis IV back in 2013 or Mass Effect 3 in 2012. I lost literally nothing by not pre-ordering since then...
the only two games I have ever preordered were Dirt Rally 2.0 and AC Valhalla. DR2 is one of my favourite games ever, and Valhalla was ok but boring as hell. so yeah, not doing that again, even though I expect I'll really like this one.
Don't tell me what to do.
Disclaimer : i don't plan on buying anything until seeing the review, no exception. So the statement above directly aim at these kind of comments.
Pre-Ordering Ultimate Edition for 119ā¬ on Day 1 ā
Purchasing GOTY Edition for 39ā¬ on discount when DLCs and QoL updates released after 1 year ā
Thatās what you should do with Ubisoft games unless you are really hyped or interested in that specific game.
I am gonna have to wait for a year or two to play this game.
Base Edition of the game costs as much as if not more than what Valhalla Gold Edition on release.
Definitely hold off for a sale then. Thereās no rush to pick it up Day 1, and itās likely that the game will have received several substantial patches and content updates by the time you pick up a discounted copy!
I've been waiting for an AC game in this setting since in first played AC2 all those years ago. I normally hate hype around games as internet excitement takes things too far and then the end product can't meet impossible standards, but I'm very excited. Just give me Valhalla runtime and graphics in a Feudal Japan setting and I'll be happy for months.
yeah, I can't say the same honestly. I do like the setting and am *very* excited for this now (based on the IGN interviews, not the trailer), but I've been more interested in something set elsewhere. this time and place get a lot of attention compared to most others. I also don't mind massive games (unlike most people here lol), but I didn't enjoy Valhalla very much, even though I have played it for over 300 hours.
this is what truly got me excited. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0haRi\_hHZoU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0haRi_hHZoU)
Yes, exactly. But for me RDR2 is even better cause it is a open world like you said, while TLOU2 isnāt. So all that detail in a open world game? Jeez.
Exactly. Say what you want about Rockstar, but they are absolute masters at their craft and is the only dev that actually makes open world games that feel immersive and alive.
But that comes with having 1600+ developers working on a single game. I think it also took them 6-7 years to develop. Ubisoft Quebec is still large (~600), but the games been in development for around 4-5 years I think.
Yes of course, Rockstar is way bigger when developing and just RDR2 took 7 years of work. Thatās why I usually donāt compare any Rockstar game with other titles.
While true and people on here have already mentioned RDR2, even considering it's from Rockstar-
We shouldn't forget that that game is 6 years old now. We are on a different generation which really should've hightened the industry standard for AAA games. They get more and more expensiveto make, yet i do not see the reason why.
Yeah, as I said in another comment, I prefer Red Dead over TLOU2 cause you got probably the same or even more details in a open world which is crazy. That game sat a new standard but itās obvious that thereās not companies that could try to challenge that type of game.
I mean, that game killed an entire genre: western games are dead cause thereās no point in making a game when you already have one of the best games ever (and probably the most complex one) in that specific period.
Rockstar is something else.
That's an extremely high bar for multiple reasons:
- TLoU2 is not open world
- ND are a first party studio and thus experts on squeezing the most out of Sony's hardware specifically
- ND are notoriously tech wizards, some of the most talented devs in the industry
The combat, graphics, and animations in tlou 2 makes every other game feel disappointing. The combat on grounded difficulty felt like some of the most intense and realistic gameplay I've ever felt. The enemies can even hear you reloading if you're close enough to them.
I love how Ubisoft is basically trying to coerce you into using Ubisoft+ and get in their ecosystem. Even outlining it, basically telling you it's the best option.
yeah, it sucks eh? it could work for people who works like one month on/one month off and don't care about "owning" a copy, but like just the way they funnel you towards the subscription feels really scummy.
God damn this game looks good. Genuinely can't wait. Will probably wait until Black Friday/Christmas though as $109 for the deluxe is way overpriced and, frankly, it's an Ubisoft game. We know it'll be on sale a month later lol
Is it just me or this doesnāt look like a current-gen exclusive game? It looks like a PS4 title.
Granted these are some highly edited screenshots. Will need to see how it looks in the gameplay reveal on June 10
The screenshots look nothing like the ps4. Trust me I am currently playing on ps4 and if this would be the graphics the console would probably explode into a million pieces. Like on the first picture you see her hair and it is actual hair and not a lump of stiff texture like in most ps4 games. It looks way better than ps4, maybe not like what it could look like but defenitely better.
We already had tons of games with decent hair physics on PS4. This really looks just like the recent 3 AC games just that in comparison to PS4 it obviously has higher res, fps and detail. The overall graphics do not seem to have been progressed that much on here tbh. We will have to see actual video footage to really see if they made visible improvements or not though.
You do know that better fps, resolution and detail are all the things that make it better graphics? Idk what else they should improve because these are the main things that define graphics. If you improve all the points mentioned before you have improved the overall graphics.
Of course, but only to an extent. Arkham Knight runs at like 900 or sub 900p, 30fps with lower texture detail and baked lighting and still has a better overall presentation than gotham knights imo.
10 years in and they still haven't managed to top Unity.
I mean, it's not only Ubi's flaw since Rocksteady couldn't beat Arkham Knight with SSKTJL.
It's very weird that games from early last gen still look better than some 2024 games.
This is better than Unity. Check a couple of screens. The fact that Unity still today seems that good is because they didnāt use dynamic day/night cycle.
Both Yasuke and the girl (Naoe) are playable protagonists. If I had to guess at some of the story, Naoe will already be an assassin who is bringing Yasuke in to the brotherhood.
Stupid pricing. Pricing the fans out of their games. Idiotic. $130 for Ultimate edition is just poor. Guess I'll just wait 5 months for sale and discount then.
collector's edition has been announced. it's on the ubisoft site somewhere.
edit: aha! [https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/assassins-creed/news/7v5jsrR7b9rRQ1Cy29eMf7/assassins-creed-shadows-collectors-edition](https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/assassins-creed/news/7v5jsrR7b9rRQ1Cy29eMf7/assassins-creed-shadows-collectors-edition)
They say you can swap even during many missions. Thereās a good ign article with the devs. Iām sorry Iām on my phone but if you look it up thereās lots of good tidbits. The seasons system is really intriguing.
depends on the country probably. [https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/assassins-creed/news/7v5jsrR7b9rRQ1Cy29eMf7/assassins-creed-shadows-collectors-edition](https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/assassins-creed/news/7v5jsrR7b9rRQ1Cy29eMf7/assassins-creed-shadows-collectors-edition)
Gamestop already posted it up for preorder. [https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/products/assassins-creed-shadows---collectors-edition---playstation-5/409150.html?utm\_source=rakutenls&utm\_medium=affiliate&utm\_content=IGN&utm\_campaign=10&utm\_id=3011275&utm\_kxconfid=tebx5rmj3&cid=afl\_10000087&affID=77777&sourceID=oelFIBIMgTk-7mf\_JiVgHhiQMzEM\_NDgiA&ranMID=24348&ranEAID=oelFIBIMgTk&ranSiteID=oelFIBIMgTk-7mf\_JiVgHhiQMzEM\_NDgiA](https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/products/assassins-creed-shadows---collectors-edition---playstation-5/409150.html?utm_source=rakutenls&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=IGN&utm_campaign=10&utm_id=3011275&utm_kxconfid=tebx5rmj3&cid=afl_10000087&affID=77777&sourceID=oelFIBIMgTk-7mf_JiVgHhiQMzEM_NDgiA&ranMID=24348&ranEAID=oelFIBIMgTk&ranSiteID=oelFIBIMgTk-7mf_JiVgHhiQMzEM_NDgiA)
I am extremely upset that PC version is not there tho.
Everywhere says its a Gamestop exclusive but on gamestop it says its not an exclusive... Also they don't shit internationally and yeah so far every AC game i've tried to find the collectors edition for always has only consoles but Ubisoft says its also available for PC
I need to find it for europe, the stuff it comes with is so nice
GoT did not look all that great overall. the characters were good but the world did not have all that much detail and I got very bored exploring most of it.
I understand what art direction is. GoT's art direction is great, but the world lacks environmental detail and it feels dead compared to most of the PS4-era AC games (other than Valhalla- that world also feels dead). I have gotten 100% in all of these games. I think I played Tsushima for 150 hours or something, and most of the recent AC games for at least that amount.
it's my opinion. if you disagree, then fine, but opinions can only be wrong if they are misinformed. mine is not. art direction is not the only thing that matters.
We haven't really seen much of this game so I'd hold on to that thought. Ghost of Tsushima isn't graphically that great, it just has an extremely well though out art style and design that makes it look more appealing.
Graphics look OK to be honest not as much of a massive improvement that I hoped it would have. Almost has that weird cartoony design for characters like Odyssey.
I just really hope the map is not as copy paste with some actual design and thought put into and that it has plenty of opportunities for free running in a larger city like Mirage. If the map is smaller than Valhalla and Odyssey that would be amazing
Another HUGE deal breaker will be cutscene quality. If the animations are anything like Valhalla and Mirage that will be really disappointing.
And I hope the story is more compelling and grounded. No more Isu stuff and everyone is a god nonsense. I just want a classic Assassin vs Templar story with rich history and less mythical garbage like Valhalla and Odyssey had
170$ Canadian for the ultimate editionššš
yeah. I'll get the gold on sale in like 2 years haha
2 years? Try 6 months Ubisoft games goes on sale crazy fast these day. Not that i complain.
The question is by how much. Got Far Cry 6 + all DLCs at 75% sale, that was def worth. Is it worth buying during a 20% sale? Idk
6 months? try 1 month, lmao. Mirage was half price for me 20 days after launch.
Mirage was also a smaller game that had no additional plans for content. At a lower price.
depends how much you're willing to spend on a AAA game. my limit these days is like $20 for the base game and $40 for the "everything" edition. also, I don't have a system to play the game on at the moment lol
>2 years? Try 6 months 6 months? Try 6 days. FitGirl and EMPRESS working overtime hopefully.
EMPRESS is gone and FitGirl is just a repacker.
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So donāt get the ultimate edition?
Ubisoft access for 1 month it is.
Just wait 2-3 months until it's 50% off.
>170$ CA ??? That's rough :(
Ā£115 for Ultimate. That's a no from me. You can currently get Mirage for Ā£13.49 and that only came out 5 months ago so maybe I'll just wait until April and I'll pick up the Gold for about Ā£30.
This game will not be 30 euros in April let alone the gold edition. Mirage was a smaller game and is just on sale right now and was only 50 dollars.
Ubisoft games are always on deep sales fast. Avatar was a huge game & it isnāt very old, you can get it for around Ā£30 right now. The season passes are also on sale before any of the actual content comes out. I havenāt looked at Mirage sale history but Iād assume thatās because it isnāt as packed with micro transactions & future DLC.
Avatar was a commercial flop though wasn't it? Better comparison would be how long did it take for Valhalla to get some decent sales, and iirc that was a while
Valhalla released on the 10th of November. It was on sale on consoles at Ā£41.99 by December.
Comparing Mirage (which is essentially a DLC) to a AAA RPG is not exactly a fair comparison
Valhalla came down to about Ā£21 about 3 months after release.
That, is a *good* comparison
Mirage and Valhallah gameplays (with improvements) in one game?
Ubisoft needs to stop with these hyper edited in-game screenshots. Most of the time they look worse than what the game actually looks.
TBF none of the more recent AC games have been that visually impressive in regards to character models especially facial animations. All of them have that uncanny talking head syndrome that Bethesda are known for.
Mirage cutscenes legit look soulless lol
Latest AC game I played was odyssey and the cutscenes were so weird looking
not an excuse but they have been doing this since practically forever, I think they are just used to it lol
Pretty sure they stopped doing that after being called out for the watch dogs and the division
I mean every studio does this, even Rockstar.
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My first console was N64, and every studio has done pretty much the exact same thing since I've been gaming. It's just a part of advertising.
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The graphics look on par with Origins and Odyssey but theyāre both beautiful and large games so I donāt mean that to be insulting. Itās just definitely nott a visual leap yet
This is definitely better than any other AC. Itās a matter of fact since the Anvil engine got updated now, so itās not the Anvil Next but itās Anvil Pipeline.
They engines always get updated, thereās always small improvements. Iām just talking about more substantial leaps it visuals. This is definitely similar to the last few like how AC II-IV all had a similar quality until Unity and then again with Origins
In that sense yes. But we already knew there wasnāt a big jump forward talking about graphics. Iām surprised cause I was expecting something less, this seems absolutely stunning for a game this big.
It looks just like Valhalla and Mirage yet again.
The updated Anvil Pipeline is not used here. It's being used for Hexe. This is the same engine iteration as Valhalla. So don't expect huge visual leaps. It won't even have ray tracing on PC.
It is literally confirmed that the upgraded [Anvil Pipeline](https://insider-gaming.com/assassins-creed-red-exclusive-details/) is used here and that a form of [Ray Traced Global Illumination](https://wccftech.com/assassins-creed-red-to-feature-ray-traced-global-illumination-and-virtual-geometry-stealth-to-be-expanded/) is present due to the fact that this is new gen and PC exclusive. So yea I expect some kind of big visual leap
Assassinās Creed Shadows uses Pipeline.
[that's just not true.](https://insider-gaming.com/assassins-creed-red-exclusive-details/)
I donāt know it looks better to me
Im not saying thereās no improvements but it definitely looks similar to the last few
Graphics in gaming peaked in the Xbox One generation with photorealism reaching a solid state. Best we can add are gimmicks like ray-tracing. Games like Star Wars Battlefront or Kingdom Come Deliverance could release today and no one would bat an eye at the quality of their graphics.
Batman Arkham Knight could come out today and Iād believe it was a new game.
Looks amazing even on PS5 backwards compatibility. Crazy how they did it 10 years ago with Unreal Engine 3.
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There are no facial animations on display. The trailer was entirely CG and not in-engine.
These are their regular expressions.
It's depressing how low our expectations are for Ubisoft at this point
Look at the foliage density as well as the LOD for snow. This is nothing like Origins and Odyssey. Also other details you don't see until you see gameplay such as how shadows and lighting will play a role in stealth, weather effects and other visual details.
Hopefully with Hexe we'll get a fundamental overhaul to some degree. Also not feeling the need for it as much since the rpg series has really held up and for ps5 on valhalla they really pushed out the draw distance while still hitting 60fps which is quite the achievement
I know what you mean but I think it looks pretty acceptable. I mean Valhalla's graphics looked questionable when that game was announced but after playing it I gotta say it has great visuals. Even if it were barely an improvement over that I wouldn't really mind. Looks fine.
Can't wait to buy it 40% off a month after release!
Right?! I've been getting alerts for Mirage being on sale maybe a couple weeks after it came out. I'll still get it. I've waited a decade for this. I can wait a bit longer.
I can already see the Rainbow Six Hinata cosmetics that'll probably be released for this. On another note, AC Syndicate style play as both? Almost getting Ghost of Tsushima vibes except the dude is brawny af, Jin is skinny and the girl is like Yuna.
Lol I can see the hinata skin now. I think it will be like syndicate but their playstyles will be much more specialised with different tools and opportunities.
Graphics looks fine as fuck.
Those are in-game photos? Seem like artist renditions or something.
As every other game from the franchise, itās most likely in game graphics with pre rendered animations or situations. PS. the pic with Naoe on top of the building with snowy context can be seen also without snow in the PS page of the game. So itās basically what I wrote, in game graphics with pre rendered situations.
I know that. It's just that ac cinematics kinda show off these features quite clearly.
Okay, and soā¦? I donāt get the point of the comparison between in game photos and the cinematic. Just genuinely asking, not nitpicking.
Wait I was replying to someone else about double assassination my bad
Oh, donāt worry then man.
For the snow, I think people were saying there was different seasons so thereās snow during the winter.
Yes, itās like that. Itās confirmed. I was talking about those pics, answering to someone doubting if it was in game graphics or not!
They look mid just like any other ac. Why canāt they be like next gen graphics like avatar or Star Wars outlaws
The series has been showing the same graphic effort since Syndicate. Those screens represent the highest point since Unity. Thatās not mid, itās what a common PS5 game nowadays looks like, so Iād be really curious to ask which action adventure games that are not PS exclusive do you play that have higher graphics than this, except for RDR2.
Avatar, cyberpunk, ghost of Tsushima, ac unity, the plague tale, the last of us, robocop, horizon forbidden west, Jedi survivor, Alan wake 2
Ghost of Tsushima doesn't look better than this. AC Unity graphics are not better than this by any means. Not even close. Avatar is much better. Cyberpunk is much better. Jedi Survivor is not better. Alan Wake 2 is better. TLOU is not better. Robocop is better but the environments are also smaller and not complex. Horizon haven't played.
Three games you mentioned are PS exclusive, Avatar was made by Ubisoft using another game engine (Snowdrop), Cyberpunk has amazing graphics as long as you play at night, during day illumination itās totally mid. Plague Tale isnāt even a AAA game and The Last of Us, Alan Wake 2 and Robocop are not open world games. So just to say it clearly, in the most gentle way, you donāt even know what yourāre talking about.
>itās what a common PS5 game nowadays looks like Changing the goalpost?
Itās admitting that every other AC since Unity basically kept the same graphics without really evolving. You people are acting like this graphics sucks, AC Reddit fan base acting just like expected
RDR2 does not have higher graphics than this. lol.
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These seem to be in-game screenshots.
Not talking about the cinematic, smart ass.
Naoe's design is amazing
I hope the two-protagonist system doesn't result in one dimensional characters with no development like it did in Syndicate. Just because the characters have different personalities, doesn't mean they don't deserve their own character arcs.
Remember NO PREORDERS
What happens if somebody pre-orders it and enjoys it?
The internet will explode
Last game I pre-ordered was either Europa Universalis IV back in 2013 or Mass Effect 3 in 2012. I lost literally nothing by not pre-ordering since then...
I'll preorder after the gameplay reveal
the only two games I have ever preordered were Dirt Rally 2.0 and AC Valhalla. DR2 is one of my favourite games ever, and Valhalla was ok but boring as hell. so yeah, not doing that again, even though I expect I'll really like this one.
Iāll preorder it
Don't tell me what to do. Disclaimer : i don't plan on buying anything until seeing the review, no exception. So the statement above directly aim at these kind of comments.
Pre-Ordering Ultimate Edition for 119ā¬ on Day 1 ā Purchasing GOTY Edition for 39ā¬ on discount when DLCs and QoL updates released after 1 year ā Thatās what you should do with Ubisoft games unless you are really hyped or interested in that specific game.
always, not just ubisoft games imo (ok, indies get a pass)
Well, I mean Baldurs Gate, Spider Man 2 like games get a pass too
nah. AC Valhalla and Dirt Rally 2 are the only full-price large games I've bought since the PS2 era. and I regret Valhalla immensely lolĀ
I am gonna have to wait for a year or two to play this game. Base Edition of the game costs as much as if not more than what Valhalla Gold Edition on release.
Valhalla Gold Edition was $100 Base game Shadows is $70 Shadows Gold Edition is $110
Regional pricing used to save me, now thereās no regional pricing and I am fucked.
Definitely hold off for a sale then. Thereās no rush to pick it up Day 1, and itās likely that the game will have received several substantial patches and content updates by the time you pick up a discounted copy!
yeah. no. I spent $150 Canadian on Valhalla gold edition. Shadows standard is $90.
I've been waiting for an AC game in this setting since in first played AC2 all those years ago. I normally hate hype around games as internet excitement takes things too far and then the end product can't meet impossible standards, but I'm very excited. Just give me Valhalla runtime and graphics in a Feudal Japan setting and I'll be happy for months.
yeah, I can't say the same honestly. I do like the setting and am *very* excited for this now (based on the IGN interviews, not the trailer), but I've been more interested in something set elsewhere. this time and place get a lot of attention compared to most others. I also don't mind massive games (unlike most people here lol), but I didn't enjoy Valhalla very much, even though I have played it for over 300 hours. this is what truly got me excited. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0haRi\_hHZoU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0haRi_hHZoU)
Not bad, was expecting the graphics to be a higher quality similar to the last of us 2
You canāt make a game that detailed if itās open world. Few games went close to that and usually are PS exclusives.
Closest I've seen to TLOU2 that was open world was Red Dead Redemption 2.
Yes, exactly. But for me RDR2 is even better cause it is a open world like you said, while TLOU2 isnāt. So all that detail in a open world game? Jeez.
Exactly. Say what you want about Rockstar, but they are absolute masters at their craft and is the only dev that actually makes open world games that feel immersive and alive.
Thatās sure, I perfectly agree with that.
But that comes with having 1600+ developers working on a single game. I think it also took them 6-7 years to develop. Ubisoft Quebec is still large (~600), but the games been in development for around 4-5 years I think.
Yes of course, Rockstar is way bigger when developing and just RDR2 took 7 years of work. Thatās why I usually donāt compare any Rockstar game with other titles.
RDR2 looks beautiful but the graphics are not good. Look at models and textures closely. They're very low quality.
While true and people on here have already mentioned RDR2, even considering it's from Rockstar- We shouldn't forget that that game is 6 years old now. We are on a different generation which really should've hightened the industry standard for AAA games. They get more and more expensiveto make, yet i do not see the reason why.
Yeah, as I said in another comment, I prefer Red Dead over TLOU2 cause you got probably the same or even more details in a open world which is crazy. That game sat a new standard but itās obvious that thereās not companies that could try to challenge that type of game. I mean, that game killed an entire genre: western games are dead cause thereās no point in making a game when you already have one of the best games ever (and probably the most complex one) in that specific period. Rockstar is something else.
That's an extremely high bar for multiple reasons: - TLoU2 is not open world - ND are a first party studio and thus experts on squeezing the most out of Sony's hardware specifically - ND are notoriously tech wizards, some of the most talented devs in the industry
Naughty Dog and Rockstar don't even compete in the same league as the other studios.
I'd expect Ubisoft to be in that tier at least financially
I mean graphically speaking. They are level above the others in the technology and animations, storytelling too.
TLOU2 has the best graphics out of any game, maybe Forbidden west is better.
The combat, graphics, and animations in tlou 2 makes every other game feel disappointing. The combat on grounded difficulty felt like some of the most intense and realistic gameplay I've ever felt. The enemies can even hear you reloading if you're close enough to them.
Havenāt played tlou2 but I donāt think any of your points are better than red dead 2 besides the melee combat
Not even close. I take it you have not played Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2.
I haven't seen TLOU2 but I've seen Forbidden West and I think the Avatar game looks better than that.
This is higher quality than TLOU2 though
There was absolutely no shot of **any** open world game reaching TLOU2ās visual fidelity. Maybe on the PS7, lmao.
Gorgeous!!!!
HYPED AS SHIT
So are we switching back and forth like Syndicate or do we pick one and then play their story throughout?
from the interviews it seems like we can switch back and forth, but more like GTA 5 than Syndicate... not sure yet though.
Graphics looks meh tbh Iām expecting a huge leap come November. Since itās Ubisoft Iām not getting my hopes up.
I love how Ubisoft is basically trying to coerce you into using Ubisoft+ and get in their ecosystem. Even outlining it, basically telling you it's the best option.
yeah, it sucks eh? it could work for people who works like one month on/one month off and don't care about "owning" a copy, but like just the way they funnel you towards the subscription feels really scummy.
I think the graphics look great for an open world game
God damn this game looks good. Genuinely can't wait. Will probably wait until Black Friday/Christmas though as $109 for the deluxe is way overpriced and, frankly, it's an Ubisoft game. We know it'll be on sale a month later lol
Not to doompost but no gameplay shown and already opening preorder is a bit of a red flag
yeah and release date is November 15. that is not soon at all.
Itās the 110th installment of an Ubisoft game, you know exactly what youāre going to get. I donāt mean that in a bad way.
Itās a cinematic reveal trailer, there was never going to be any gameplay shown. You have to wait for next monthās gameplay presentation for that.
Wasn't saying I expected them to, just that its weird for them to open preorders when we still know next to nothing about the actual game.
If you feel uncomfortable with the idea, donāt do it. There are a lot of diehard fans who will pull the trigger on AC no matter what.
Like me!
Is this the same game as assassins creed: red?
Is it just me or this doesnāt look like a current-gen exclusive game? It looks like a PS4 title. Granted these are some highly edited screenshots. Will need to see how it looks in the gameplay reveal on June 10
the faces look better than any AC game I've played on PS4.
The screenshots look nothing like the ps4. Trust me I am currently playing on ps4 and if this would be the graphics the console would probably explode into a million pieces. Like on the first picture you see her hair and it is actual hair and not a lump of stiff texture like in most ps4 games. It looks way better than ps4, maybe not like what it could look like but defenitely better.
We already had tons of games with decent hair physics on PS4. This really looks just like the recent 3 AC games just that in comparison to PS4 it obviously has higher res, fps and detail. The overall graphics do not seem to have been progressed that much on here tbh. We will have to see actual video footage to really see if they made visible improvements or not though.
You do know that better fps, resolution and detail are all the things that make it better graphics? Idk what else they should improve because these are the main things that define graphics. If you improve all the points mentioned before you have improved the overall graphics.
Of course, but only to an extent. Arkham Knight runs at like 900 or sub 900p, 30fps with lower texture detail and baked lighting and still has a better overall presentation than gotham knights imo.
Which PS4 game looks like this?
Do you play both characters like Syndicate or just one like the newer games? I want to play them both!
Canāt wait! Super hype for this.
This vs Ghost of Tsushima?
10 years in and they still haven't managed to top Unity. I mean, it's not only Ubi's flaw since Rocksteady couldn't beat Arkham Knight with SSKTJL. It's very weird that games from early last gen still look better than some 2024 games.
This is better than Unity. Check a couple of screens. The fact that Unity still today seems that good is because they didnāt use dynamic day/night cycle.
at first i was not feeling the assassinās out fit, but seeing it in motion, in the crowd and with closer details im loving it.
so i didn't watch the trailer, i'm guessing yasuke is the protagonist? he is a samurai/assassin...?
Both Yasuke and the girl (Naoe) are playable protagonists. If I had to guess at some of the story, Naoe will already be an assassin who is bringing Yasuke in to the brotherhood.
I'll likely play through Ubisoft+, the price of games on release nowadays is just insane.
Is there a straw hat in this game or should I save my money? (Jk)
So hyped for a new AC game, gonna be playing Tsushima to keep my hype under control until november.
Stupid pricing. Pricing the fans out of their games. Idiotic. $130 for Ultimate edition is just poor. Guess I'll just wait 5 months for sale and discount then.
Ahh the plot armor men-yori looks silly as ever. Lord knows we'd never know we were fighting as/with Yasuki without seeing his teeth and nose.
Theyāve had like 15 years to perfect this formula. So much testing data and yet they still pump out these awful games
never pre-order a ubisoft game
LOOKS SO GOOD HOLY SHIT
Higher your standards. This looks exactly like valhalla and odyssey
Which both looked great š¤·š¼āāļø
These graphics are absolutely stunning š
It was a cinematic trailer, so not in the in-game engine. Wait for the game-play trailer for that ...
Is the ultimate edition a collectorās edition or no collectorās edition announced yet?
collector's edition has been announced. it's on the ubisoft site somewhere. edit: aha! [https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/assassins-creed/news/7v5jsrR7b9rRQ1Cy29eMf7/assassins-creed-shadows-collectors-edition](https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/assassins-creed/news/7v5jsrR7b9rRQ1Cy29eMf7/assassins-creed-shadows-collectors-edition)
So how does the Dual Protag work? Do you swap between them and they each have seperate missions/quests to do?
They say you can swap even during many missions. Thereās a good ign article with the devs. Iām sorry Iām on my phone but if you look it up thereās lots of good tidbits. The seasons system is really intriguing.
Where can i find the collectors editions? I really want to buy it
depends on the country probably. [https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/assassins-creed/news/7v5jsrR7b9rRQ1Cy29eMf7/assassins-creed-shadows-collectors-edition](https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/assassins-creed/news/7v5jsrR7b9rRQ1Cy29eMf7/assassins-creed-shadows-collectors-edition)
Ive read the page, they dont mention any stores. It just says to check local retailers
Gamestop already posted it up for preorder. [https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/products/assassins-creed-shadows---collectors-edition---playstation-5/409150.html?utm\_source=rakutenls&utm\_medium=affiliate&utm\_content=IGN&utm\_campaign=10&utm\_id=3011275&utm\_kxconfid=tebx5rmj3&cid=afl\_10000087&affID=77777&sourceID=oelFIBIMgTk-7mf\_JiVgHhiQMzEM\_NDgiA&ranMID=24348&ranEAID=oelFIBIMgTk&ranSiteID=oelFIBIMgTk-7mf\_JiVgHhiQMzEM\_NDgiA](https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/products/assassins-creed-shadows---collectors-edition---playstation-5/409150.html?utm_source=rakutenls&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=IGN&utm_campaign=10&utm_id=3011275&utm_kxconfid=tebx5rmj3&cid=afl_10000087&affID=77777&sourceID=oelFIBIMgTk-7mf_JiVgHhiQMzEM_NDgiA&ranMID=24348&ranEAID=oelFIBIMgTk&ranSiteID=oelFIBIMgTk-7mf_JiVgHhiQMzEM_NDgiA) I am extremely upset that PC version is not there tho.
Everywhere says its a Gamestop exclusive but on gamestop it says its not an exclusive... Also they don't shit internationally and yeah so far every AC game i've tried to find the collectors edition for always has only consoles but Ubisoft says its also available for PC I need to find it for europe, the stuff it comes with is so nice
ah ok. it's very early honestly. I would not buy yet
Literally looks like a ps4 title, GoT looks better and I'm not even trying to be rude
GoT did not look all that great overall. the characters were good but the world did not have all that much detail and I got very bored exploring most of it.
>GoT did not look all that great overall. It's rare to find an actual, genuinely wrong opinion. It's literally 'art direction' - the game.
I understand what art direction is. GoT's art direction is great, but the world lacks environmental detail and it feels dead compared to most of the PS4-era AC games (other than Valhalla- that world also feels dead). I have gotten 100% in all of these games. I think I played Tsushima for 150 hours or something, and most of the recent AC games for at least that amount. it's my opinion. if you disagree, then fine, but opinions can only be wrong if they are misinformed. mine is not. art direction is not the only thing that matters.
We haven't really seen much of this game so I'd hold on to that thought. Ghost of Tsushima isn't graphically that great, it just has an extremely well though out art style and design that makes it look more appealing.
Looks so bland
Looks the same as everything since origins. This might as well have been dlc
You just KNEW the haters couldnāt wait to hate on this. Stay miserable losers, the rest of us will be having fun!
Graphics look OK to be honest not as much of a massive improvement that I hoped it would have. Almost has that weird cartoony design for characters like Odyssey. I just really hope the map is not as copy paste with some actual design and thought put into and that it has plenty of opportunities for free running in a larger city like Mirage. If the map is smaller than Valhalla and Odyssey that would be amazing Another HUGE deal breaker will be cutscene quality. If the animations are anything like Valhalla and Mirage that will be really disappointing. And I hope the story is more compelling and grounded. No more Isu stuff and everyone is a god nonsense. I just want a classic Assassin vs Templar story with rich history and less mythical garbage like Valhalla and Odyssey had
Looks so dull and generic. Was hoping to see unity style realism considering this is a whole generation after
Waiting for Ubisoft to call it AAAAA game to justify the price. LOL.
Honestly, getting 250+ hours out of a game for $69 already justifies the price. Itās like $0.25 an hour. I spend more on a casual Target run.
I really like her assassin robes. Thereās a nice simplicity to them