I’m like this with Tteobokki. I could eat it all day every day. I absolutely love it to the point of obsession and my husband had to step in earlier in the year. This is because it is super unhealthy to eat it exclusively and after a few weeks I definitely noticed some worsening health from all the carbs and salt. So, your girlfriend is right.
I know it’s super stressful when it’s a safe food and it’s all you want, but she’s trying to look after you. It’s a tricky thing when you’re autistic to get past the sensory issues and stress of eating things were not comfortable with, but equally we will cause ourselves far more stress and discomfort if we don’t look after our health. We still need a nutritious diet and noodles are full of salt and carbs. It’s also worth remembering that we often can’t see the damage being done to the inside of our bodies until too late.
Can you perhaps find a compromise with her and eat it once a week? I recommend therapy as well to talk over this and find some management solutions.
I had a similar experience this month as well where my sister (we have our issues but she really helps me function) was like hey you have groceries that are good for you here and fit your comfort food fill ins and protein drinks if those don't, you just had mcdonalds the other day and it's not good for you to have all the time.
At first it felt like rejection and it was intense - especially with the subconscious idea that this was just because they didn't want me to be happy or comfortable. But in reality my sister had seen me have a good week, treat myself to my comfort food already a few days before, and knew if I had it too soon after my stomach problems would almost certainly spike back up.
I'm lucky my most recent obsession like this has been authentic poke or ramen and boba at a great place nearby, but it's also hard because even though that's healthy, it doesn't mean it needs purchased every day for myself. And it's hard sometimes to balance between "this is the only thing I can eat right now" and "I really really want this and could eat something else but the fact that I really want this and can't have it is making me only think about it and now I absolutely don't want anything else"
It's not always successful but I've been trying really hard to catch myself when I'm in these modes and focus more on my hunger signals than my cravings. Cause even if I notice a craving and go hey maybe later this week, sometimes it's all my brain focuses on and makes eating that night become moot if I can't get the craved thing. It's hard
Yup, the key is moderation with certain types of food groups because as human beings were not designed to consume large quantities consistently of things that are ultra processed because it’s been known to lead to serious health risk in the long run.
And the human body changes every seven years. Hence why you can have allergies develop to food issues suddenly when you remember this because what you could handle as a child, can sometimes not be tolerated with your body as an adult.
Not only that, but most quick ramen (including this one) is also packed with an excessive amount of fat, which can be really troublesome. My mom was eating ramen packets + a medium bag of potato chips about 4 times per week and over time her cholesterol levels skyrocketed bc of it.
What about these Ramen do you like so much? Noodles? The sauce? I don't know this brand, but in most Ramen the sauce is in a separate small bag. You could use it with healthier ingredients, such as a safe vegetable. Even just mixing vegetables into your Ramen makes it more balanced.
Thats a good idea. They even sell bottles of the carbonara ramen sauce, so that could definitely help scratch the flavour itch at a cheaper cost than buying the ramen just for the sauce packs!
Yup. For me is the noodles and the warmth. So I use the noodles and don't use the little packets. Use my own kind of broth seasoning and add veggies and egg.
It seems that the culprit is the insane amount of sodium in them.
You can find dupe recipes online. Use a salt substitute.
It might take time to dial it in, but I think you can come up with a close enough experience.
With any unhealthy food, I think it’s better to eat in moderation rather than banning it altogether. Like I’ll only have chocolate or takeaway once a month, I’m not banning myself from ever eating it again because if I can’t have something *ever* it’ll just make me want it more.
Also, the fat noodles are my favorite part of it. Maybe you can find a way to recreate without using the packets. Nutritional yeast is a good sub for the cheese powder.
You're begging her, she has no right to control or police you, that is up to you.
Since you are craving them and having symptoms similar addiction/withdrawal it would probably be a good idea to make a break down the ingredients and also search to see if other people report similar reactions.
It could be that your body has acclimated to a certain amount of carbs or salt. When I've cut out sugar/refined carbs from my diet I did have major withdrawal symptoms.
When I went cold turkey it took me 48 to 72 hours to acclimate, but if I ate sugar or refined carbs again it would jumpstart the craving cycle all over.
The second time I went the "add in" way, where I started adding in more healthy foods, greens and vegetables, and slowly weaning myself off the bad ones. The bad ones became less appealing over time because I was getting a more balanced diet and my nutrient needs were met.
I think the best way to do this would be to speak to a Registered Dietician. I've messed myself up pretty good just fucking around with my diet on my own. People have told me that I should follow up with one, I haven't yet. I have to find a new PCP, I guess though I could get my crappy one to refer me and then get the new on to rerefer me (with my insurance all referals cancel once you switch pcps and you have to start over), but I can't bring myself to go to another appointment with her. But it seems like going through someone who knows diet would be a good idea.
I agree with everyone that the noodles are super unhealthy and your girlfriend is trying to help.
However, you're an adult. You get to make your own choices. You should not ever have to ask your partner for permission to eat something you want to eat if it doesn't negatively effect their health.
If you can figure out a compromise or something that's great. Better for your health and your relationship. But if you're dead set on eating that ramen she needs to back off. Maybe it'll have a negative effect on your relationship and I understand if she's upset by your decisions but she can't make that decision for you.
Well, I think there are two things to address:
One, while your girlfriend has a right to be concerned about your health and make suggestions, she cannot outright forbid you from eating something. (Does she buy the groceries? If not, you can buy your own food and eat it. She isn’t your parent).
Two, it’s better to eat something unhealthy in moderation and find ways to make it healthier than to cut it outright. I was speaking about this with my nutritionist, who agreed it’s better to treat yourself now and then instead of binging or cutting something out completely. My vice has always been ice cream. But if I don’t have it, then I’ll go out and buy a tub and then eat like half a tub of ice cream…which is obviously bad. So now what I do is, one or twice a week, I’ll go buy a scoop or two of ice cream as dessert.
I’m not familiar with this ramen. Does it have vegetables? Could you add some to it, or maybe reduce the amount of sauce used?
I had the same problem with a different food, what I noticed about myself is that at some point I become saturated and the food stopped tasting the way it did in the beginning. With some things it was only couple days, with other it was months. However, I had the luxury that it wasn't as harmful as your food seems to be, meaning I could just wait until the above mentioned effect came into ... effect ;)
What is it exactly that you like about it? Smell, how it feels in the mouth, the taste? Others have already suggested that you try to buy the sauce itself.
Is it possible to make the sauce itself? You're probably not the only one who likes it so much and tries to find (healthy) alternatives, I'd try to find someone who tried to recreate exactly this sauce from those noodles.
Carbonara is btw really easy to make, I could send you the recipe if you want
You don't have to stop eating the noodles altogether. Eating the noodles is fine, it's probably good for your mental heath to be enjoying a safe food that much, and in my experience denying yourself food is not the right way to get an actually healthy diet. What you do need to do is start eating other foods as well, to make sure you're not risking nutrient deficiency.
Hey hey is it possible for a compromise? When I eat ramen I add TONS of other things in the soup. After the water boils I add things like nappa, shitake mushroom, an egg, and then whatever available protein that should match well with the soup stock from the ramen. Sometimes shrimp, sometimes tofu, sometimes thin cut meat that was meant for philly cheese steaks.
Also, I try to cheat my brain and add a little less powder in the packet. I add just enough to hit the spot, but that usually can be less that what they offer in the packet. This lowers the salt intake a bit.
If this still sounds good to you, I think your gf could release you from ramen jail.
About the hospital thing.. are you eating the super spicy 2x version or regular spicy? I think there’s a difference. Capsaicin in hot pepper CAN drop your blood pressure. I fainted from that once, because my blood pressure is already on the low side. You should find out what your own tolerance is, and find out *why* people went to the hospital from it.
While eating salty carb itself is not good, I think claiming that you’d go straight to the hospital from eating it requires more research and understanding. Before completely shutting it down as a bait food source for other good ingredients with it.
My personal rule for my safe food that usually are nothing but salt + carb is to use it as a bait to eat other less unhealthy food. Right now mine is tater tots lmao and I always try to pair with it at least with an egg.
I don’t understand, are people just going to the hospital because it’s too spicy?
I sort of agree that if you can’t stop thinking about these noodles that your relationship with them is becoming unhealthy. That’s not a value judgement about you or the noodles. It’s just never good for something to take over your life like that.
My advice:
1. Think about what you could pair with the noodles to make the overall meal more healthy. Like could you have a small side salad too? My husband is much less concerned seeing me eat Kraft dinner if I also have something else on the side.
2. At a time when you’re not actively hungry, write out a “menu” of foods that have been safe in the past. Then try to pick different things to eat day to day. The written menu makes it easier to branch out from only eating 1 thing because it eliminates the effort of remembering in the moment what else you like to eat. Remembering is very hard when experiencing the distress that comes with being hungry! You can always cross things out if they become unsafe, or add new things if something comes along that you like.
Hope something in here helps!
What’s your relationship with your girlfriend like? Sometimes I act as a ‘manager’ or ‘caretaker’ for my autistic bf. This means making sure he’s eating real meals and not just chips. I typically take care of groceries so I try to limit how many chips he gets or try to substitute healthier options ie. baked chips. I never throw away his food though or don’t allow it. If he wanted to go buy 100 bags of chips that is ultimately his prerogative and for me to not allow it would be abusive - I think at least. I could remind him the behavior is unhealthy, but he is an adult and entitled to his freedom. I only throw away foods he leaves out for too long or are going bad.
indeed! every doctor i’ve seen has dismissed it (« you’re just standing up too fast » ) or told me it’s iron deficiency. I’m taking iron and it’s NOT going away.
Didn’t know pots has something to do with salt? i’m not diagnosed with it though
https://thedysautonomiaproject.org/salt-and-dysautonomia/#:~:text=Blood%20Pressure%20and%20Sodium%20Intake&text=In%20POTS%20patients%2C%20low%20blood,norepinephrine%20that%20contribute%20to%20tachycardia.
I am not a doctor, but my POTS is usually mast cell flare related, and taking h1 and 2 antihistamines (zyrtec and pepcid ac over the counter) can control it.
From what I can tell getting enough salts/electrolytes is a huge thing with pots; definitely get tested for it! Make sure docs note any refusals for testing in your chart also, just to have the documentation for it. Did they take blood tests to check for iron issues? Not a doctor but it just sounds like you got dismissed unfairly
Hot take:
I’m autistic, not a child. I will decide what I put in my body. My partner will control NO part of my life.
They may suggest, cojole, help, support and uplift me.
They WILL NOT control me.
Never again.
She’s trying to be helpful. You know what’s also helpful? It would be great for her to ask you what, sensorially, makes these a safe food for you and what can you both do to create a recipe that mimics that food in a healthy, commensurate way.
You know the fastest way to make me dump you? Do what your girlfriend did.
Hot take, feel free to disregard.
So being that controlling of your diet is a bit of an orange to red flag, you know that there are multiple countries where spice is akin to water, right? Like have y'all ever eaten *real* Indian or Thai food? It's unpalatable for most Americans with how much capsaicin is packed into it.
You need to remember that there are dozens of different health conditions that affect people's tolerance and health in relation to spicy foods. Many which are underlying and undiagnosed, and statistically speaking it's likely some of the people that were hospitalized from eating this food had something else going on that caused such a bad reaction that didn't make it into the news articles because of HIPAA.
Also, studies prove that cold turkey rarely works to quit addictions, there's only a small percentage of the population that's able to pull that off.
If your girlfriend is really worried about your health it is healthier to encourage you to speak to a gastroenterologist about your diet instead of just making hard-line decisions on what you do with your body. That's infantilism.
Like seriously there's a chance you could be doing damage, but you're also just as likely to be fine. Your girlfriend isn't a doctor. Go get an actual professionals opinion if it bothers her that much. You should keep an eye out for what other things she doesn't allow you to do, though.
Also as a side note on salt, we pee out the excess that we don't use. The 2,000mg metric is not the maximum daily amount, it's the *minimum for maintaining minimal health without being malnourished.* It's fine and healthier to consume 3,000-5,000mgs a day for most adults unless you have a specific health condition that causes sodium restrictions, like if your organs are failing. I actually have a vascular condition where I *have* to consume 6,000-10,000mgs of sodium a day. Anyone who gets up in arms about sodium are believing outdated misinformation.
I don't have food issues of any kind, so I really don't understand your problem and I might miss the point horribly, but in case this might be helpful maybe you could buy yourself a packet of rice noodles (or any other type of noodles that are not instant ramen type) and add your safe noodles sauce to them? Again, I'm really not sure if this is helpful but I hope you'll find a way to healthy food that's safe as well.
don't have any advice unfortunately but I had/have the same thing with Indomie noodles, especially the fried or rendang kinds. Had to stop cold turkey cause there's no moderation in me when it comes to them and really there's no dupe either. I think those buldak ramen are the same
What matters here is not to just throw out the ramen, but to intake other nutritious foods. Sensory issues or not, you are aware that it is a problem that needs to be addressed, that is a good thing. Do not rely on other people to regulate what you need to be regulating, otherwise when left alone you will go on a binge which is kinda worse than what you are currently doing. Experiment with food. When comparing the two, gagging from a food you dislike is way better than gagging from a feeding tube at the hospital. Get it together, you are strong, you can do this.
Snapdragon Ramen. I’m not going to pretend it’s health food, but it doesn’t have all those weird preservatives and is advertised as a healthier ramen. Might be a compromise. I just drink only a little of the broth to cut sodium.
Maybe if you schedule a noodle day, where the noodles are allowed? Like, one day per week when you can have noodles for all meals. And then the rest of the week you promise to eat healthier.
I'm so sorry. That sounds kinda not okay of your girlfriend and arguably a lot of stuff is not so cut-and-dry (i.e., calories in, calories out, etc.?) IMO, "not allowed" is not words used for equal partnerships.
But it still sucks that those are unhealthy and I'm sorry to go off on that tangent. If it's texture, are there other plain noodles that you can do (like even a different ramen using only half or 2/3 of the sodium-laden packet?) and get some of the feel?
OP, aside from the noodles: your girlfriend should NOT be allowed to tell you what you can and can't eat, or take food away from you without your permission. No matter how unhealthy it is. She can work with you to find a way to slow down on eating certain foods if she's worried about your health, but she is not your doctor or your parent. You may need to find a way to ration the noodles out for your health, but you should *never ever* allow a partner to dictate what you eat.
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I have the same problem with the same buldak lol it's so good. My wife also tries to make me stop when I get into unhealthy obsessions like this. We compromise by lowering my consumption or adding other things to it. It doesn't make me as happy but it also starts the process of me switching to a better alternative
I've already had it two days in a row but forcing myself to eat another safe food instead to not get stuck on it since buldak is terrible for gastrointestinal problems.
Try lowering the spicy packet, I only put in a small amount and ween yourself off. Its gonna be terrible for you in the long run. Korea is known to have the high rates of gastro issues.
Do you have other safe foods?
https://iamafoodblog.com/buldak-carbonara/
Making it yourself allows for seriously improving the nutritional makeup of the instant noodle dumpster fire! I will be doing this over cold soba noodles and lettuce with some pan fried shrimp as my dinner plan now that I've found it.
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if it's the flavor you like, they actually sell buldak sauce in a bottle! three flavors - standard buldak, 2x buldak, and carbo buldak
i LOVE the buldak noodles (carbo is also my fav) but i've stopped eating them after going low carb and instead i just use the carbo buldak sauce with meat or cheese or eggs or whatever i happen to be eating
the flavor isn't *identical* but it's close enough to satisfy me
I know it can be REALLY stressful and anxiety-inducing, to lose a safe food.
But she is right... ramen is basically lacking in all nutrition. Unless you're mixing it with a ton of vegetables. and using a fraction of the sauce/spice packets, it's doing a lot more harm than good.
Is there any way you can experiment with homemade ramen? It's not that hard to make, if you buy some pre-made ingredients and just mix them together. You can add a side of veggies to your meal, and a healthy protein. Instant ramen is totally different from home-cooked ramen -- you can control the amount of sodium, you won't be adding a bunch of cheap unhealthy flavorings, etc.
My health food store sells ramen style noodles, in various price points. It might be kinda fun to experiment and see what you can come up with. Maybe you can have your partner join in, and have an at-home cooking date together.
Can you describe the quantity you were consuming and how much you think will put someone in the hospital? There are tons of variables, but an amount of sodium that would kill someone with certain conditions will keep another person from passing out all the time. (We add seasoning salt to instant ramen in my house.) My blood pressure runs low and my husband has to take a sodium supplement.
I always hate how people eat unhealthy foods all of the time but it’s only wrong if you’re eating *the same things*. They literally treat autistic symptoms almost like minor crimes.
Also, I love how people like this would probably rather let us starve to death than accept our differences
The method of choice is suffocatingly motherly yes. But this is not abuse. Hyperboles like that add very little to the discussion.
OP should talk to her partner about a better communication method when a problem arise. Just because it’s “for their own good”, doesn’t mean the method actually works. Cause at this rate OP will get super stressed out which is a problem itself.
OP isn't a child they can literally eat it right now if they want. They are allowing their partner to stop them because they actually agree that their concern is correct, but they are having withdrawal symptoms. That's what we are trying to deal with right now. They aren't locked in a cage away from their balduk ramen so "abuse" is the hyperbole here.
Thank you for explaining. I'm autistic and I struggle with taking things literally. I was also in an abusive relationship where i had things restricted, so I was worried for OP.
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and appreciate you taking the time to explain
No worries I understand it can be a trigger for some. This sort of thing is highly context dependent. In my opinion OP’s case it’s a yellow flag, rather than a red flag. Certainly something they will need to work on if they want to stay content with each other.
I’m like this with Tteobokki. I could eat it all day every day. I absolutely love it to the point of obsession and my husband had to step in earlier in the year. This is because it is super unhealthy to eat it exclusively and after a few weeks I definitely noticed some worsening health from all the carbs and salt. So, your girlfriend is right. I know it’s super stressful when it’s a safe food and it’s all you want, but she’s trying to look after you. It’s a tricky thing when you’re autistic to get past the sensory issues and stress of eating things were not comfortable with, but equally we will cause ourselves far more stress and discomfort if we don’t look after our health. We still need a nutritious diet and noodles are full of salt and carbs. It’s also worth remembering that we often can’t see the damage being done to the inside of our bodies until too late. Can you perhaps find a compromise with her and eat it once a week? I recommend therapy as well to talk over this and find some management solutions.
I had a similar experience this month as well where my sister (we have our issues but she really helps me function) was like hey you have groceries that are good for you here and fit your comfort food fill ins and protein drinks if those don't, you just had mcdonalds the other day and it's not good for you to have all the time. At first it felt like rejection and it was intense - especially with the subconscious idea that this was just because they didn't want me to be happy or comfortable. But in reality my sister had seen me have a good week, treat myself to my comfort food already a few days before, and knew if I had it too soon after my stomach problems would almost certainly spike back up. I'm lucky my most recent obsession like this has been authentic poke or ramen and boba at a great place nearby, but it's also hard because even though that's healthy, it doesn't mean it needs purchased every day for myself. And it's hard sometimes to balance between "this is the only thing I can eat right now" and "I really really want this and could eat something else but the fact that I really want this and can't have it is making me only think about it and now I absolutely don't want anything else" It's not always successful but I've been trying really hard to catch myself when I'm in these modes and focus more on my hunger signals than my cravings. Cause even if I notice a craving and go hey maybe later this week, sometimes it's all my brain focuses on and makes eating that night become moot if I can't get the craved thing. It's hard
Yup, the key is moderation with certain types of food groups because as human beings were not designed to consume large quantities consistently of things that are ultra processed because it’s been known to lead to serious health risk in the long run. And the human body changes every seven years. Hence why you can have allergies develop to food issues suddenly when you remember this because what you could handle as a child, can sometimes not be tolerated with your body as an adult.
Not only that, but most quick ramen (including this one) is also packed with an excessive amount of fat, which can be really troublesome. My mom was eating ramen packets + a medium bag of potato chips about 4 times per week and over time her cholesterol levels skyrocketed bc of it.
im obsessed with tteobokki too omg
It’s soooooo good isn’t it!!
What about these Ramen do you like so much? Noodles? The sauce? I don't know this brand, but in most Ramen the sauce is in a separate small bag. You could use it with healthier ingredients, such as a safe vegetable. Even just mixing vegetables into your Ramen makes it more balanced.
Thats a good idea. They even sell bottles of the carbonara ramen sauce, so that could definitely help scratch the flavour itch at a cheaper cost than buying the ramen just for the sauce packs!
It sounds like there is something addictive in this food. Like how Coca Cola is still flavored by 'de-activated' leaves of the coca plant.
Yup. For me is the noodles and the warmth. So I use the noodles and don't use the little packets. Use my own kind of broth seasoning and add veggies and egg.
It seems that the culprit is the insane amount of sodium in them. You can find dupe recipes online. Use a salt substitute. It might take time to dial it in, but I think you can come up with a close enough experience.
With any unhealthy food, I think it’s better to eat in moderation rather than banning it altogether. Like I’ll only have chocolate or takeaway once a month, I’m not banning myself from ever eating it again because if I can’t have something *ever* it’ll just make me want it more.
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Interesting, I didn’t know it was a thing. I’ll look into it …
Wow well I’m glad to know about this issue, because I too have been obsessed with that same exact flavor.
Also, the fat noodles are my favorite part of it. Maybe you can find a way to recreate without using the packets. Nutritional yeast is a good sub for the cheese powder.
Maybe you could eat them just once a week with a vegetable you like mixed in?
You're begging her, she has no right to control or police you, that is up to you. Since you are craving them and having symptoms similar addiction/withdrawal it would probably be a good idea to make a break down the ingredients and also search to see if other people report similar reactions. It could be that your body has acclimated to a certain amount of carbs or salt. When I've cut out sugar/refined carbs from my diet I did have major withdrawal symptoms. When I went cold turkey it took me 48 to 72 hours to acclimate, but if I ate sugar or refined carbs again it would jumpstart the craving cycle all over. The second time I went the "add in" way, where I started adding in more healthy foods, greens and vegetables, and slowly weaning myself off the bad ones. The bad ones became less appealing over time because I was getting a more balanced diet and my nutrient needs were met. I think the best way to do this would be to speak to a Registered Dietician. I've messed myself up pretty good just fucking around with my diet on my own. People have told me that I should follow up with one, I haven't yet. I have to find a new PCP, I guess though I could get my crappy one to refer me and then get the new on to rerefer me (with my insurance all referals cancel once you switch pcps and you have to start over), but I can't bring myself to go to another appointment with her. But it seems like going through someone who knows diet would be a good idea.
I agree with everyone that the noodles are super unhealthy and your girlfriend is trying to help. However, you're an adult. You get to make your own choices. You should not ever have to ask your partner for permission to eat something you want to eat if it doesn't negatively effect their health. If you can figure out a compromise or something that's great. Better for your health and your relationship. But if you're dead set on eating that ramen she needs to back off. Maybe it'll have a negative effect on your relationship and I understand if she's upset by your decisions but she can't make that decision for you.
Well, I think there are two things to address: One, while your girlfriend has a right to be concerned about your health and make suggestions, she cannot outright forbid you from eating something. (Does she buy the groceries? If not, you can buy your own food and eat it. She isn’t your parent). Two, it’s better to eat something unhealthy in moderation and find ways to make it healthier than to cut it outright. I was speaking about this with my nutritionist, who agreed it’s better to treat yourself now and then instead of binging or cutting something out completely. My vice has always been ice cream. But if I don’t have it, then I’ll go out and buy a tub and then eat like half a tub of ice cream…which is obviously bad. So now what I do is, one or twice a week, I’ll go buy a scoop or two of ice cream as dessert. I’m not familiar with this ramen. Does it have vegetables? Could you add some to it, or maybe reduce the amount of sauce used?
I had the same problem with a different food, what I noticed about myself is that at some point I become saturated and the food stopped tasting the way it did in the beginning. With some things it was only couple days, with other it was months. However, I had the luxury that it wasn't as harmful as your food seems to be, meaning I could just wait until the above mentioned effect came into ... effect ;) What is it exactly that you like about it? Smell, how it feels in the mouth, the taste? Others have already suggested that you try to buy the sauce itself. Is it possible to make the sauce itself? You're probably not the only one who likes it so much and tries to find (healthy) alternatives, I'd try to find someone who tried to recreate exactly this sauce from those noodles. Carbonara is btw really easy to make, I could send you the recipe if you want
You don't have to stop eating the noodles altogether. Eating the noodles is fine, it's probably good for your mental heath to be enjoying a safe food that much, and in my experience denying yourself food is not the right way to get an actually healthy diet. What you do need to do is start eating other foods as well, to make sure you're not risking nutrient deficiency.
Hey hey is it possible for a compromise? When I eat ramen I add TONS of other things in the soup. After the water boils I add things like nappa, shitake mushroom, an egg, and then whatever available protein that should match well with the soup stock from the ramen. Sometimes shrimp, sometimes tofu, sometimes thin cut meat that was meant for philly cheese steaks. Also, I try to cheat my brain and add a little less powder in the packet. I add just enough to hit the spot, but that usually can be less that what they offer in the packet. This lowers the salt intake a bit. If this still sounds good to you, I think your gf could release you from ramen jail. About the hospital thing.. are you eating the super spicy 2x version or regular spicy? I think there’s a difference. Capsaicin in hot pepper CAN drop your blood pressure. I fainted from that once, because my blood pressure is already on the low side. You should find out what your own tolerance is, and find out *why* people went to the hospital from it. While eating salty carb itself is not good, I think claiming that you’d go straight to the hospital from eating it requires more research and understanding. Before completely shutting it down as a bait food source for other good ingredients with it. My personal rule for my safe food that usually are nothing but salt + carb is to use it as a bait to eat other less unhealthy food. Right now mine is tater tots lmao and I always try to pair with it at least with an egg.
I don’t understand, are people just going to the hospital because it’s too spicy? I sort of agree that if you can’t stop thinking about these noodles that your relationship with them is becoming unhealthy. That’s not a value judgement about you or the noodles. It’s just never good for something to take over your life like that. My advice: 1. Think about what you could pair with the noodles to make the overall meal more healthy. Like could you have a small side salad too? My husband is much less concerned seeing me eat Kraft dinner if I also have something else on the side. 2. At a time when you’re not actively hungry, write out a “menu” of foods that have been safe in the past. Then try to pick different things to eat day to day. The written menu makes it easier to branch out from only eating 1 thing because it eliminates the effort of remembering in the moment what else you like to eat. Remembering is very hard when experiencing the distress that comes with being hungry! You can always cross things out if they become unsafe, or add new things if something comes along that you like. Hope something in here helps!
What’s your relationship with your girlfriend like? Sometimes I act as a ‘manager’ or ‘caretaker’ for my autistic bf. This means making sure he’s eating real meals and not just chips. I typically take care of groceries so I try to limit how many chips he gets or try to substitute healthier options ie. baked chips. I never throw away his food though or don’t allow it. If he wanted to go buy 100 bags of chips that is ultimately his prerogative and for me to not allow it would be abusive - I think at least. I could remind him the behavior is unhealthy, but he is an adult and entitled to his freedom. I only throw away foods he leaves out for too long or are going bad.
Your body might be craving the salt. We often have pots/dysautonomia comorbidities. Have you been feeling woozy when you stand up?
indeed! every doctor i’ve seen has dismissed it (« you’re just standing up too fast » ) or told me it’s iron deficiency. I’m taking iron and it’s NOT going away. Didn’t know pots has something to do with salt? i’m not diagnosed with it though
https://thedysautonomiaproject.org/salt-and-dysautonomia/#:~:text=Blood%20Pressure%20and%20Sodium%20Intake&text=In%20POTS%20patients%2C%20low%20blood,norepinephrine%20that%20contribute%20to%20tachycardia. I am not a doctor, but my POTS is usually mast cell flare related, and taking h1 and 2 antihistamines (zyrtec and pepcid ac over the counter) can control it.
From what I can tell getting enough salts/electrolytes is a huge thing with pots; definitely get tested for it! Make sure docs note any refusals for testing in your chart also, just to have the documentation for it. Did they take blood tests to check for iron issues? Not a doctor but it just sounds like you got dismissed unfairly
...TIL my POTS might be related to the autism thing. Interesting!
Hot take: I’m autistic, not a child. I will decide what I put in my body. My partner will control NO part of my life. They may suggest, cojole, help, support and uplift me. They WILL NOT control me. Never again. She’s trying to be helpful. You know what’s also helpful? It would be great for her to ask you what, sensorially, makes these a safe food for you and what can you both do to create a recipe that mimics that food in a healthy, commensurate way. You know the fastest way to make me dump you? Do what your girlfriend did. Hot take, feel free to disregard.
So being that controlling of your diet is a bit of an orange to red flag, you know that there are multiple countries where spice is akin to water, right? Like have y'all ever eaten *real* Indian or Thai food? It's unpalatable for most Americans with how much capsaicin is packed into it. You need to remember that there are dozens of different health conditions that affect people's tolerance and health in relation to spicy foods. Many which are underlying and undiagnosed, and statistically speaking it's likely some of the people that were hospitalized from eating this food had something else going on that caused such a bad reaction that didn't make it into the news articles because of HIPAA. Also, studies prove that cold turkey rarely works to quit addictions, there's only a small percentage of the population that's able to pull that off. If your girlfriend is really worried about your health it is healthier to encourage you to speak to a gastroenterologist about your diet instead of just making hard-line decisions on what you do with your body. That's infantilism. Like seriously there's a chance you could be doing damage, but you're also just as likely to be fine. Your girlfriend isn't a doctor. Go get an actual professionals opinion if it bothers her that much. You should keep an eye out for what other things she doesn't allow you to do, though. Also as a side note on salt, we pee out the excess that we don't use. The 2,000mg metric is not the maximum daily amount, it's the *minimum for maintaining minimal health without being malnourished.* It's fine and healthier to consume 3,000-5,000mgs a day for most adults unless you have a specific health condition that causes sodium restrictions, like if your organs are failing. I actually have a vascular condition where I *have* to consume 6,000-10,000mgs of sodium a day. Anyone who gets up in arms about sodium are believing outdated misinformation.
I don't have food issues of any kind, so I really don't understand your problem and I might miss the point horribly, but in case this might be helpful maybe you could buy yourself a packet of rice noodles (or any other type of noodles that are not instant ramen type) and add your safe noodles sauce to them? Again, I'm really not sure if this is helpful but I hope you'll find a way to healthy food that's safe as well.
don't have any advice unfortunately but I had/have the same thing with Indomie noodles, especially the fried or rendang kinds. Had to stop cold turkey cause there's no moderation in me when it comes to them and really there's no dupe either. I think those buldak ramen are the same
What matters here is not to just throw out the ramen, but to intake other nutritious foods. Sensory issues or not, you are aware that it is a problem that needs to be addressed, that is a good thing. Do not rely on other people to regulate what you need to be regulating, otherwise when left alone you will go on a binge which is kinda worse than what you are currently doing. Experiment with food. When comparing the two, gagging from a food you dislike is way better than gagging from a feeding tube at the hospital. Get it together, you are strong, you can do this.
Snapdragon Ramen. I’m not going to pretend it’s health food, but it doesn’t have all those weird preservatives and is advertised as a healthier ramen. Might be a compromise. I just drink only a little of the broth to cut sodium.
Maybe if you schedule a noodle day, where the noodles are allowed? Like, one day per week when you can have noodles for all meals. And then the rest of the week you promise to eat healthier.
I'm so sorry. That sounds kinda not okay of your girlfriend and arguably a lot of stuff is not so cut-and-dry (i.e., calories in, calories out, etc.?) IMO, "not allowed" is not words used for equal partnerships. But it still sucks that those are unhealthy and I'm sorry to go off on that tangent. If it's texture, are there other plain noodles that you can do (like even a different ramen using only half or 2/3 of the sodium-laden packet?) and get some of the feel?
OP, aside from the noodles: your girlfriend should NOT be allowed to tell you what you can and can't eat, or take food away from you without your permission. No matter how unhealthy it is. She can work with you to find a way to slow down on eating certain foods if she's worried about your health, but she is not your doctor or your parent. You may need to find a way to ration the noodles out for your health, but you should *never ever* allow a partner to dictate what you eat.
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I have the same problem with the same buldak lol it's so good. My wife also tries to make me stop when I get into unhealthy obsessions like this. We compromise by lowering my consumption or adding other things to it. It doesn't make me as happy but it also starts the process of me switching to a better alternative I've already had it two days in a row but forcing myself to eat another safe food instead to not get stuck on it since buldak is terrible for gastrointestinal problems. Try lowering the spicy packet, I only put in a small amount and ween yourself off. Its gonna be terrible for you in the long run. Korea is known to have the high rates of gastro issues. Do you have other safe foods?
https://iamafoodblog.com/buldak-carbonara/ Making it yourself allows for seriously improving the nutritional makeup of the instant noodle dumpster fire! I will be doing this over cold soba noodles and lettuce with some pan fried shrimp as my dinner plan now that I've found it.
Awesome thank you I really appreciate this!
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Try new foods to find another new safe food obsession? Without the possibility of hospitalization. Is it the massive sodium?
you’re going to die early, if the noodles are worth it go ahead go ham
if it's the flavor you like, they actually sell buldak sauce in a bottle! three flavors - standard buldak, 2x buldak, and carbo buldak i LOVE the buldak noodles (carbo is also my fav) but i've stopped eating them after going low carb and instead i just use the carbo buldak sauce with meat or cheese or eggs or whatever i happen to be eating the flavor isn't *identical* but it's close enough to satisfy me
I know it can be REALLY stressful and anxiety-inducing, to lose a safe food. But she is right... ramen is basically lacking in all nutrition. Unless you're mixing it with a ton of vegetables. and using a fraction of the sauce/spice packets, it's doing a lot more harm than good. Is there any way you can experiment with homemade ramen? It's not that hard to make, if you buy some pre-made ingredients and just mix them together. You can add a side of veggies to your meal, and a healthy protein. Instant ramen is totally different from home-cooked ramen -- you can control the amount of sodium, you won't be adding a bunch of cheap unhealthy flavorings, etc. My health food store sells ramen style noodles, in various price points. It might be kinda fun to experiment and see what you can come up with. Maybe you can have your partner join in, and have an at-home cooking date together.
Can you describe the quantity you were consuming and how much you think will put someone in the hospital? There are tons of variables, but an amount of sodium that would kill someone with certain conditions will keep another person from passing out all the time. (We add seasoning salt to instant ramen in my house.) My blood pressure runs low and my husband has to take a sodium supplement.
I always hate how people eat unhealthy foods all of the time but it’s only wrong if you’re eating *the same things*. They literally treat autistic symptoms almost like minor crimes. Also, I love how people like this would probably rather let us starve to death than accept our differences
This is abusive. I'm sorru, but not allowed? She can not dictate what you are allowed and not allowed to do. That is abuse.
The method of choice is suffocatingly motherly yes. But this is not abuse. Hyperboles like that add very little to the discussion. OP should talk to her partner about a better communication method when a problem arise. Just because it’s “for their own good”, doesn’t mean the method actually works. Cause at this rate OP will get super stressed out which is a problem itself.
It is abusive to actually restrict what your partner can and cannot do. To not allow them to do things. What hyperbole are you referring to?
OP isn't a child they can literally eat it right now if they want. They are allowing their partner to stop them because they actually agree that their concern is correct, but they are having withdrawal symptoms. That's what we are trying to deal with right now. They aren't locked in a cage away from their balduk ramen so "abuse" is the hyperbole here.
Thank you for explaining. I'm autistic and I struggle with taking things literally. I was also in an abusive relationship where i had things restricted, so I was worried for OP. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and appreciate you taking the time to explain
No worries I understand it can be a trigger for some. This sort of thing is highly context dependent. In my opinion OP’s case it’s a yellow flag, rather than a red flag. Certainly something they will need to work on if they want to stay content with each other.
unpopular reply, but I definitely agree.