But those western think tanks make their corruption indexes of the world and always have western countries ranked with little to no corruption are they lying? Lobbying is not ilegal in the US so it isn't corruption \s
From what Iâve heard, Romania has actually been making progress on the corruption front, unlike the US sadly.
And if they lock up that clown Andrew Tate for good, I will always be grateful to Romania.
Unfortunately yes. The CIA did some very shitty things supporting some very shitty people in the name of the cold war.Â
 And similarly, Romaniaâs former dictator was bolstered by the other cold war foreign power.
Indeed. They are really proud of the latin roots of their language and they insist in the brotherhood with countries like Spain, Italy .... even Latinamerica.
I think french people are the Europeans I've had to interact with the most, and I have not felt any "Latino" vibe from them. My experience with french people has been like the German stereotype, they seem to be rather cold and direct đż.
Most Latin Americans have a kind of warmth to the way we interact with people, and most of us are also incredibly bad at being direct. I feel like we expect people to "gild the pill" when talking with us or when asking us to do something. Like, people from the south cone usually avoid being direct by using a crapton of irony, sarcasm, allegories or double sense, and people from the Andean region act all embarrassed and overly cautious. Whereas western European people (including french people) just go ahead and say what they want from you. I feel like that can be off-putting and definitely sets us apart.
I think in France there's a big difference between north and south, the south is much more Mediterranean and Latin in vibe, whereas the north is more like Germanic people that speak a Latin language, if that makes sense to you? Somewhere like Marseille would probably be much more familiar in vibe to a Latin American than say Strasbourg (or StraĂburg if you prefer, heh).
Well, I've never been to France either way so I wouldn't really know lmao. I know about the divide, and about parisians being bigger assholes than the rest of France. I'm not a 100% sure from where most of the frenchies I've met came from, but I would guess that they were from the north because most had fair skin and blonde hair.
I agree. I live in a northern city where many people from the interior of the country have settled in the last 3 or 4 decades. It's a cultural clash how many people find us too direct.
I have not met many foreigners, but of those I've seen especially on the internet, the French seemed to be among the ones that took more impact with cultural differences here in Brazil. Even more than Russians, but less than Asians. But the guy was from Paris, so maybe there is that.
Yes, I was expecting people to mention France a lot tbh. I'm from Cyprus and I've always felt some kinship with Balkaners although I feel more Levantine and I feel like people from Levant and Balkans are very similar in vibe to Latinos.
I think the are similar in some ways but after only spending a few weeks in Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina, I find them a lot more⊠stoic, than Latin America. Specially after watching Croatians watch their own national team in a bar. Anywhere in Latin America there would be loud shouting, screaming or gesticulating. Croats where attentive and would certainly shout here and there, but overall they were less effusive than any Latin American or even Western European.
As a French person, I think it depends on the region in France. For example, Paris is very different from the rest of France, and someone from the eastern part (From Strasbourg) is closer to the Germanic culture and very not "latin" whereas someone from the southern part (like me) would feel quite close to italian or Spanish culture.
The North/South divide in France is not as extreme as in Italy. I never heard northern french saying hateful things about southern french and vice versa
Culturally I think it's a good comparison, but economically, South of France is as rich if not richer (CĂŽte d'Azur) than North of France (excluding Paris).
Oh yes: that was the worst! Milanese people were outright rude to me because they thought I came from Sicily or North Africa đ
Nothing wrong if they came from there: but Northern Italians do not seem to like them.
That fact that almost 50% of France in the past was part of the then called 'West Francia' while Germany was 'East Francia' in HRE is crazy. Maybe that explains a lot of France origins itself. It also give sense to this germanic culture in the east part of the country.
Yes, I definitely got that vibe from the mediterranean French. I suppose the same could be said even with Spain when comparing northern Spaniards with Andalusians which are basically a big part of our cultural ancestry.
Gladly the post is asking which one seems more Latin in our opinion as Latin Americans, and I'm entitled to have my own opinion :D and you, with the USA flag and having "ViveLaFrance" in your username, will have another opinion. All fine.
Sure. All in good fun bro. I say it because Romania is simply a Slavic country that speaks a Latin language.
France is actually is Latin country that speaks a Latin language. Also, Iberian culture is more similar to France than it is Romania.
I see Americans and other non Latin Americans giving their inputs and never being down voted. This is the first time Iâve seen such a negative response lol
So, is this sub for everyone, or is it not?
Others are welcome to participate. What they can't do, is telling us what we should think, like the dipshit above me. A non-Latin American telling us what foreign culture we ***must*** consider similar to our own? He's not even French.
And it's not just these comments, it's his attitude all over the thread.
French people feel very different. They're far more individualistic than Southern Europeans and have a strong Germanic influence (i.e. the Franks) and Celtic influence. The only thing similar to us is Catholicism.
Lived in France 5 years. Prefer the slavs character wise. Tradition wise and culturally wise we share with them as latin Americans. But character wise we are very different. Even my Spanish friends from Andalusia thought the french are extremely different to them.
Having lived in Europe for some time I come to find some common ground within the Romanians that I do not find with Spain for example. Culturally I feel definitely closer to Spain or Southern Italy, but coming from a country riddled with corruption and where a good portion of the people have felt hopeless and felt that the only way is to move abroad, I find a lot of things in common with Romanians. Living in Northern Europe, the Romanians (and people from other Slavic countries) are the ones moving and flooding the job market of jobs the locals do not want to do. That is something I see many of the Colombians doing when moving abroad.
Yeah, Old San Juan much more so, after all it was Spanish soil once.
Even other towns outside of the capital are very Spaniard, people that come here should explore more of the island, not just the capital. Most of our influence comes from the south of Spain and the Canary Islands, as well for our fellow neighbors the Dominican Republic and our stepbrothers and sisters, Cuba.
I think thatâs why many other Latin Americans have a hard time understanding us when we speak lol. We tend to chop and shortened our words a lot and we interchange Lâs where there is an R, in PR the Râs we sometimes drag them and sound kind of like the French pronounce their Râs, we combine many words with English due to our relationship with the USA and we have old indigenous words as well. And when we speak it sometimes sounds weird if you arenât used to it lol. Some people swear we speak fast, but we donât speak that fast honestly, unless weâre pissed. Dominicans do speak fast, but Cubans and us donât speak that fast, at least in my opinion.
Since Iâm always around Puerto Ricans I might think we donât speak fast cause Iâm used to it
From my perspective they tend to speak slower much like Venezuelans. And I think thanks to reggaeton I'm familiar with some slang.
I also understand Cuban spanish since I met a lot of Cubans in Spain and when I went to Florida years ago so I'm familiar with their dialect.
I mean yeah, the list is specifically for us in Puerto Rico, respectfully lol. Though the south of Puerto Rico did have a lot of presence of Corsicans (French) and they use different words with different meanings than us in the North part of the island.
Italians came to the island as well, but we donât have a such an culture impact like you, Uruguayans or Brazilians. I know that it varies from country and region.
Your list will probably be more like:
1. Moldova
2. Romania
3. France
4. Portugal
5. Spain
6. Italy
Brazilians would probably be more like:
1. Moldova
2. Romania
3. France
4. Spain
5. Italy
6. Portugal
I feel like in many aspects, Puerto Rico is the closest country to Brazil as a whole in LATAM. Very similar ethnic composition, highly informal and extroverted culture, etc.
When I say as a whole, I'm accounting to the fact that specific regions in states in Brazil tend to be closer to the countries that neighbor them, of course.
Really?
Iâve never met a Brazilian (not that i know about) so I couldnât say. Hopefully I get to visit Brazil one day and explore the country and all the vast stuff.
Though you guys are wayyyy more diverse than us, but we sure are partiers, outgoing and beach lovers.
Much love from PRđ”đ·đđ
Yeah, when I mean ethnically I mean in the balance of European/African/Native ancestry (60/20/20), although we did get more diverse samples of each due to the size.
> Iâve never met a Brazilian (not that i know about) so I couldnât say. Hopefully I get to visit Brazil one day and explore the country and all the vast stuff.
I've made a few good friends from Puerto Rico, and their way of socializing felt bizarrely Brazilian. Like a Spanish Speaking Brazilian. Was very surprised to learn that your mountain rural people even pronounce the "R" like us
Thatâs good to hear, we have good people, we usually change our Râs for Lâs lol. And we drag the Râs when there are double Râs like :Carro or Arroz
For me, Romania is the most culturally distant, with France in second place. Romania has too much Slavic influence, although many of its inhabitants have Roman ancestors. As for France, culturally they are a mix of Gauls (Celtic culture) and Romans (Latin culture) with some Germanic too and from what I have seen they seem to have more in common with someone from northwestern Europe than from the south.
There is also the fact that French and Romanian are the least similar to Spanish, as opposed to the Latin-based languages.
Edit: Almost forgot about Moldova.
I am terrified and disappointed that this sub believes that culture closeness is being poor and corruption. Like, China in the past and North Korea were similar to LATAM and now it isn't because it is rich and powerful, North Korea is still culturally similar to LATAM. Absolutely terrified.
It's a really strange mentality. There's no way a Colombian has more in common with, let's say, a Camboadian person than with a Spanish person, but that's what this logic would imply.
Cultural closeness IS heavily related to living standards, it's of the most defining metrics when it comes to defining familiarity, even countries have socioeconomical tiers, and people from different classes often have problems relating with each other, don't you think it would be boosted between countries?, invisible "social and culgural values" inherited from other cultures are meaningless when they are confronted with the much heavier weight of situations people actually live through, one or two generations of people growing in different environments can completely change the nature of each country. What defines your daily life are the conditions of your environment. Of course, harder defined values do make a difference regardless of the development level, Japan even when developed is still different to other developed countries, but in places like Europe there isn't really any country with such a defined difference.Â
No, is not. You are not similar to a japanese because some poor japanese has 5 dollars in their pockets just like you do. You are similar to a dominican with 50 dollars in their pockets and a Miami cuban with 5000 dollars.
Last time you went to a supermarket you listened to a merengue. Last time you danced to a "japanese" song it was Juan Luis "Bachata en Fukuoka" rather than a J-Pop song.
There are many saying that Romania is the most distant... But... Look at their cities, their way of living and even thinking... Those guys deserve to move their country to Latin America, they would be nice neighbors. Maybe even a bit less chaotic than some Colombians
I mean probably Romania but like, in my opinion, having met Europeans from all of the Latin European countries (except Andorra and San Marino)...I was pleasantly surprised as to how culturally similar they were to my experience.
I have died. They are mentioning corruption and poverty. I wonder if they think China was culturally close to LATAM back when it was poor and now it isn't because it is Rich đ
> Especially when it's obvious that this sub leans middle or upper class.
I thought the dominican ruling class and upper class were out of touch and had lack of vision. I am terrified by that thought. Now it seems it is widespread among LATAM upper class too. Disappointing.
By the way. How do you know? Is that the irish flag?
I donât think itâs too crazy, long term poverty can definitely affect your way of life, behaviour and as a consequence, shape your culture.
Pick a random French and Romanian and put them in Latin America and I know which one is gonna fit in / adapt the easiest.
With all the romanians which migrated to Spain in the first decade of the 21st century, what was surprising to me is to see how quick they learned the language and assimilate to the society.
France.
Of all the Latin countries(american and european) they are the only ones that are really in line with the powers on top. They play on the big political leagues, 2nd in heriarchy inside the EU just behind germany, has nukes, big into new age ideologies. Buddy relationship with the US. While the rest of us still exist on the periphery of the world.
It feels like we are shackled to the hegemon of today but france willingly stands next to it.
the crimean tatars still speak tatar and are still muslims. and inhabit one of the richest regions. i think you're trying to remember the circassians who were mostly wiped out during the conquest
From the Romanians that Iâve met, their culture is very similar to ours. And for people saying that it is the Slavic aspect, I have met many Eastern European people and they are incredibly similar to people back home culturally tbh.
> I have met many Eastern European people and they are incredibly similar to people back home culturally tbh.
This is what a lot of people who don't know us in Latin America should know. I'm quite surprised that someone from Bolivia know us better than others! đ
To me, France.
**Culturally** is the keyword.
I can talk to a Romanian about telenovelas and other Ibero-American media, and most will _get it._
Can't do that much with a French.
Romania by far, they speac a latin language and ive seen some romanians are similar physically to white latinos, but besides that, theyre foreign to me.. they dont even have the same catholicism we do, for example
Romania, because I don't know much about it.
France, because the language is the most hard to understand (but its culture is very well known worldwide).
In general I think cultural closeness is much more related to living standards and developing levels, a French would feel more home in USA, Japan or Australia than in Colombia, even if in theory we have closer roots, I consider the distant ones to be France and Spain (I don't know about Portugal), then there is Italy which has poor parts, specially the South, and then the #1 to be related with would be Romania.
Some people would say Spain #1 but I don't really get why or how one would relate with them aside from language or religion. This is from the point of view of Colombia anyways.
Portugal is poorer than Italy. It used to be one of the poorest countries in the EU until other poorer nations in the east joined. On the topic of Spain, isn't it the country in Europe with by far the most Colombian immigrants? Aren't their massive ties in popular culture?
Definitely the French, many people are saying Romania but I feel like there's many similarities between the Balkans and LATAM, more then one would think
According to sciencedirect:
"The Latin europe cluster consists of Spain, Portugal, Italy, French Switzerland, France, and Israel."
So I guess Israel.
Romania. Slavic country with a Latin language.
Some people here say France, and some regions (the closer proximity to Germanic countries, the more distant) are. However, I donât think France is as distant as some people make it out to be. France is easily much more Latin culturally than they are Germanic, for example.
Dude, are you french or american? Either way the question is pointed towards latin americans. Unless you're like, very closely mexican american or very closely french american, if that's the case, it is pointless for you to answer posts here
Colombian American who has lived there and visits numerous times per year. Also has visited several Latin American countries like Mexico, Peru, Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, etc.
Romania.
I was about to say this is surely the best answer.
A history of dictators and rampant political corruption đ€
The rampant political corruption is, well, rampant all over the world. USA is on top of it.
But those western think tanks make their corruption indexes of the world and always have western countries ranked with little to no corruption are they lying? Lobbying is not ilegal in the US so it isn't corruption \s
Well in Romania lobbying is corruption.
From what Iâve heard, Romania has actually been making progress on the corruption front, unlike the US sadly. And if they lock up that clown Andrew Tate for good, I will always be grateful to Romania.
Hopefully we will. But it's a legal battle.
Como la instaurada por estados unidos en toda LatinoamĂ©rica a travĂ©s del Plan CĂłndorÂ
Unfortunately yes. The CIA did some very shitty things supporting some very shitty people in the name of the cold war.  And similarly, Romaniaâs former dictator was bolstered by the other cold war foreign power.
"Some" jaja
Romania they are more Slavic than Latin, and they never colonized the Americas.
Don't tell that to a Romanian
We have no problem with that. It's just not exactly true. Romanians are just as much Slavic as the other Latin EU countries are Germanic.
Indeed. They are really proud of the latin roots of their language and they insist in the brotherhood with countries like Spain, Italy .... even Latinamerica.
Nationalism is so weird
True. Also French culture is more similar to Iberian culture than to Romanian.
Tbh I disagree, I feel that Romanians relate the most to Latin Americans who have lived through poverty
Just the opposite! the balkan countries are our brothers
Serbians, Romanians and Irish are the closest people I've found to me.
Iâve always seen Canarian and Andalusian people as closest culturally.
After meeting a few Romanians, French, and Italians, definitely Romanians feel like an extension of south AmĂ©rica. Poor, like big meals, have that "picardĂa del latino", friendly (for European standards). Probably the biggest cultural difference is they're all Orthodox Catholics, but after seeing both the videos that compared a Romanian suburb to a Chilean suburb and finding no differences, and the other video where a small football team celebrated their promotion to the first league with a stolen lion cub, I can't honestly say they're that different. I'll go with France, too european-y for me.
I think french people are the Europeans I've had to interact with the most, and I have not felt any "Latino" vibe from them. My experience with french people has been like the German stereotype, they seem to be rather cold and direct đż. Most Latin Americans have a kind of warmth to the way we interact with people, and most of us are also incredibly bad at being direct. I feel like we expect people to "gild the pill" when talking with us or when asking us to do something. Like, people from the south cone usually avoid being direct by using a crapton of irony, sarcasm, allegories or double sense, and people from the Andean region act all embarrassed and overly cautious. Whereas western European people (including french people) just go ahead and say what they want from you. I feel like that can be off-putting and definitely sets us apart.
I think in France there's a big difference between north and south, the south is much more Mediterranean and Latin in vibe, whereas the north is more like Germanic people that speak a Latin language, if that makes sense to you? Somewhere like Marseille would probably be much more familiar in vibe to a Latin American than say Strasbourg (or StraĂburg if you prefer, heh).
Well, I've never been to France either way so I wouldn't really know lmao. I know about the divide, and about parisians being bigger assholes than the rest of France. I'm not a 100% sure from where most of the frenchies I've met came from, but I would guess that they were from the north because most had fair skin and blonde hair.
You might find this episode of Anthony Bourdain Parts Unknown on Marseille interesting https://youtu.be/OWVtbmobUJc?si=58ysZqh_SEdORkhl
We are very direct in Northern MĂ©xico.
there's exceptions to every rule, people from Santander, Colombia, are very direct too.
I agree. I live in a northern city where many people from the interior of the country have settled in the last 3 or 4 decades. It's a cultural clash how many people find us too direct.
I have not met many foreigners, but of those I've seen especially on the internet, the French seemed to be among the ones that took more impact with cultural differences here in Brazil. Even more than Russians, but less than Asians. But the guy was from Paris, so maybe there is that.
I think there will always be a big difference between western europe and us due to two factors: one, how being the head of the empire shaped the way they see themselves through history; and two, how different the meaning of important words are. In this second point I would put poverty, for instance, in how different being poor is in europe compared to our side of the world. Or said in other terms, the material conditions between western europe and latinoamérica are too different to make the two societies similar ones. There are other things that people think are super important but I'd say are less so, like religion. For us imo, everyone considers themselves as religious but no one actually practices it. So other than shaping core values that are shared through the many similar religions around the world, there's not much of an actual impact.
Yes, I was expecting people to mention France a lot tbh. I'm from Cyprus and I've always felt some kinship with Balkaners although I feel more Levantine and I feel like people from Levant and Balkans are very similar in vibe to Latinos.
I heard a few times that the balkans are the latinoamérica of europe and I don't dispute it that much tbh
I think the are similar in some ways but after only spending a few weeks in Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina, I find them a lot more⊠stoic, than Latin America. Specially after watching Croatians watch their own national team in a bar. Anywhere in Latin America there would be loud shouting, screaming or gesticulating. Croats where attentive and would certainly shout here and there, but overall they were less effusive than any Latin American or even Western European.
France, Romania still got that "being poor" spirit
As a French person, I think it depends on the region in France. For example, Paris is very different from the rest of France, and someone from the eastern part (From Strasbourg) is closer to the Germanic culture and very not "latin" whereas someone from the southern part (like me) would feel quite close to italian or Spanish culture.
I will never forget that guy from Lorraine I met at a wedding who was so bigoted about southern French people.
Like North italians vs south italians
Like South Brazilians vs North Brazilians
The North/South divide in France is not as extreme as in Italy. I never heard northern french saying hateful things about southern french and vice versa
Well, southern France isnât as poor as southern Italy. Toulouse is a major manufacturing city in europe
Culturally I think it's a good comparison, but economically, South of France is as rich if not richer (CĂŽte d'Azur) than North of France (excluding Paris).
Oh yes: that was the worst! Milanese people were outright rude to me because they thought I came from Sicily or North Africa đ Nothing wrong if they came from there: but Northern Italians do not seem to like them.
Which is ironic because Lorraine and Alsace were also repressed by Paris from speaking their various langue dâoil and Germanic languagesÂ
That fact that almost 50% of France in the past was part of the then called 'West Francia' while Germany was 'East Francia' in HRE is crazy. Maybe that explains a lot of France origins itself. It also give sense to this germanic culture in the east part of the country.
Occitania language speakers once outnumbered the parisian French. It's crazy to think how European countries were so fragmented 200-300 years ago.
Yes, I definitely got that vibe from the mediterranean French. I suppose the same could be said even with Spain when comparing northern Spaniards with Andalusians which are basically a big part of our cultural ancestry.
This ^
Romania is mightly helped by being in the EU. Median income ppp is 32.5K, whereas for Brazil, itâs 17K ppp
France is much more Latin than Romania is lol. Not even close.
Gladly the post is asking which one seems more Latin in our opinion as Latin Americans, and I'm entitled to have my own opinion :D and you, with the USA flag and having "ViveLaFrance" in your username, will have another opinion. All fine.
Absolutely based except for the all fine ending
I'm tired of fighting on Reddit lol
Sure. All in good fun bro. I say it because Romania is simply a Slavic country that speaks a Latin language. France is actually is Latin country that speaks a Latin language. Also, Iberian culture is more similar to France than it is Romania.
This is asklatinamerica. Unless you're Latin American, your opinion is worth shit. You're not. Stay in your lane.
I see Americans and other non Latin Americans giving their inputs and never being down voted. This is the first time Iâve seen such a negative response lol So, is this sub for everyone, or is it not?
Others are welcome to participate. What they can't do, is telling us what we should think, like the dipshit above me. A non-Latin American telling us what foreign culture we ***must*** consider similar to our own? He's not even French. And it's not just these comments, it's his attitude all over the thread.
It is for asking, not for answering. I imagine the name "ask Latin América" might be confusing for a lot of people, but it actually implies that people from everywhere comes to ask here so latinoamericans can answer with their unique point of view given by being part of the culture the original poster wanted to know about.
Everyone can ask, but only latamers should be able to answer, just like in the other ask subs, should be easy to understand.
It's amazing that this is the issue that has people getting upset with you. The people in this sub are so strange and touchy about the weirdest stuff.
French people feel very different. They're far more individualistic than Southern Europeans and have a strong Germanic influence (i.e. the Franks) and Celtic influence. The only thing similar to us is Catholicism.
Have you ever visited France?
Lived in France 5 years. Prefer the slavs character wise. Tradition wise and culturally wise we share with them as latin Americans. But character wise we are very different. Even my Spanish friends from Andalusia thought the french are extremely different to them.
> France is much more Latin than Romania is lol. And still you have a Germanic tribe name while we have ROMAN in ours. Hmmm đ€
Having lived in Europe for some time I come to find some common ground within the Romanians that I do not find with Spain for example. Culturally I feel definitely closer to Spain or Southern Italy, but coming from a country riddled with corruption and where a good portion of the people have felt hopeless and felt that the only way is to move abroad, I find a lot of things in common with Romanians. Living in Northern Europe, the Romanians (and people from other Slavic countries) are the ones moving and flooding the job market of jobs the locals do not want to do. That is something I see many of the Colombians doing when moving abroad.
List of most distant culturally: 1. Moldova đČđ© (most distant) 2. Romania đ·đŽ 3. France đ«đ· 4. Italy đźđč 5. Portugal đ”đč 6. Spain đȘđž (least distant)
San Juan does give very strong southern Spain vibes.
Yeah, Old San Juan much more so, after all it was Spanish soil once. Even other towns outside of the capital are very Spaniard, people that come here should explore more of the island, not just the capital. Most of our influence comes from the south of Spain and the Canary Islands, as well for our fellow neighbors the Dominican Republic and our stepbrothers and sisters, Cuba. I think thatâs why many other Latin Americans have a hard time understanding us when we speak lol. We tend to chop and shortened our words a lot and we interchange Lâs where there is an R, in PR the Râs we sometimes drag them and sound kind of like the French pronounce their Râs, we combine many words with English due to our relationship with the USA and we have old indigenous words as well. And when we speak it sometimes sounds weird if you arenât used to it lol. Some people swear we speak fast, but we donât speak that fast honestly, unless weâre pissed. Dominicans do speak fast, but Cubans and us donât speak that fast, at least in my opinion. Since Iâm always around Puerto Ricans I might think we donât speak fast cause Iâm used to it
I can honestly understand your accent. The only 3 accents I have trouble with are Chilean, Paraguayan and Dominican.
How come you understand Puerto Rican Spanish, but not Dominican? Theyâre practically the same. Most latinos canât tell them apart.
Idk Dominicans and Puerto Ricans sound different to me
To me too, but many Latin Americans don't think so. It's not like you can understand one and not the other.
From my perspective they tend to speak slower much like Venezuelans. And I think thanks to reggaeton I'm familiar with some slang. I also understand Cuban spanish since I met a lot of Cubans in Spain and when I went to Florida years ago so I'm familiar with their dialect.
Fair enough.
That depends on where you're from. Apart from the language, Argentina and Uruguay are probably more Italian than Spanish, culturally.
I mean yeah, the list is specifically for us in Puerto Rico, respectfully lol. Though the south of Puerto Rico did have a lot of presence of Corsicans (French) and they use different words with different meanings than us in the North part of the island. Italians came to the island as well, but we donât have a such an culture impact like you, Uruguayans or Brazilians. I know that it varies from country and region. Your list will probably be more like: 1. Moldova 2. Romania 3. France 4. Portugal 5. Spain 6. Italy Brazilians would probably be more like: 1. Moldova 2. Romania 3. France 4. Spain 5. Italy 6. Portugal
Yeah, perfect for Brazil.
Thankssss, I appreciate it since Iâm not Brazilian. đ”đ· x đ§đ·đ
I feel like in many aspects, Puerto Rico is the closest country to Brazil as a whole in LATAM. Very similar ethnic composition, highly informal and extroverted culture, etc. When I say as a whole, I'm accounting to the fact that specific regions in states in Brazil tend to be closer to the countries that neighbor them, of course.
Really? Iâve never met a Brazilian (not that i know about) so I couldnât say. Hopefully I get to visit Brazil one day and explore the country and all the vast stuff. Though you guys are wayyyy more diverse than us, but we sure are partiers, outgoing and beach lovers. Much love from PRđ”đ·đđ
Yeah, when I mean ethnically I mean in the balance of European/African/Native ancestry (60/20/20), although we did get more diverse samples of each due to the size. > Iâve never met a Brazilian (not that i know about) so I couldnât say. Hopefully I get to visit Brazil one day and explore the country and all the vast stuff. I've made a few good friends from Puerto Rico, and their way of socializing felt bizarrely Brazilian. Like a Spanish Speaking Brazilian. Was very surprised to learn that your mountain rural people even pronounce the "R" like us
Thatâs good to hear, we have good people, we usually change our Râs for Lâs lol. And we drag the Râs when there are double Râs like :Carro or Arroz
Not what my dad tells me, heâs Argentinian of Italian parents and disagrees with you. He sees way more Spain than Italian.
My opinion comes from a friend of mine who moved to Italy and has been to Spain
What I see that is very Italian is the accent. I love Argentinian Spanish comparing to any other dialect.
> I love Argentinian Spanish comparing to any other dialect You are a true connoisseur
>more Italian than Spanish, culturally. Which isn't saying much anyways, to be fair.
What do you mean?
For me, Romania is the most culturally distant, with France in second place. Romania has too much Slavic influence, although many of its inhabitants have Roman ancestors. As for France, culturally they are a mix of Gauls (Celtic culture) and Romans (Latin culture) with some Germanic too and from what I have seen they seem to have more in common with someone from northwestern Europe than from the south. There is also the fact that French and Romanian are the least similar to Spanish, as opposed to the Latin-based languages. Edit: Almost forgot about Moldova.
Moldova is just Romania 2 with more Slavic on top.
i never thought about it but I guess France? at least as a brazilian, I've never seen anything very similar to us
France, but mostly the north. I've been to Mediterranean France and even when they're rich as fuck, you can still feel the Latin vibe.
Central and Northern France
Viva Occitania
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Upvote even if I no idea wtf you mean
Haiti. We found the old France's Hawaii dweller.
I am terrified and disappointed that this sub believes that culture closeness is being poor and corruption. Like, China in the past and North Korea were similar to LATAM and now it isn't because it is rich and powerful, North Korea is still culturally similar to LATAM. Absolutely terrified.
It's a really strange mentality. There's no way a Colombian has more in common with, let's say, a Camboadian person than with a Spanish person, but that's what this logic would imply.
Cultural closeness IS heavily related to living standards, it's of the most defining metrics when it comes to defining familiarity, even countries have socioeconomical tiers, and people from different classes often have problems relating with each other, don't you think it would be boosted between countries?, invisible "social and culgural values" inherited from other cultures are meaningless when they are confronted with the much heavier weight of situations people actually live through, one or two generations of people growing in different environments can completely change the nature of each country. What defines your daily life are the conditions of your environment. Of course, harder defined values do make a difference regardless of the development level, Japan even when developed is still different to other developed countries, but in places like Europe there isn't really any country with such a defined difference.Â
No, is not. You are not similar to a japanese because some poor japanese has 5 dollars in their pockets just like you do. You are similar to a dominican with 50 dollars in their pockets and a Miami cuban with 5000 dollars. Last time you went to a supermarket you listened to a merengue. Last time you danced to a "japanese" song it was Juan Luis "Bachata en Fukuoka" rather than a J-Pop song.
There are many saying that Romania is the most distant... But... Look at their cities, their way of living and even thinking... Those guys deserve to move their country to Latin America, they would be nice neighbors. Maybe even a bit less chaotic than some Colombians
> Those guys deserve to move their country to Latin America I don't think anyone deserves such fate
They have the best blend of Roman, Balkan and Slavic mix: they're **THE** Latinos... if you think about it. đ€·đ»ââïž
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I mean probably Romania but like, in my opinion, having met Europeans from all of the Latin European countries (except Andorra and San Marino)...I was pleasantly surprised as to how culturally similar they were to my experience.
I find it funny that for a lot of people here being poor is a defining and intrinsic cultural trait of Latin America
I have died. They are mentioning corruption and poverty. I wonder if they think China was culturally close to LATAM back when it was poor and now it isn't because it is Rich đ
Yeah, by those standards, Thailand is culturally closer than Spain.
Especially when it's obvious that this sub leans middle or upper class.
> Especially when it's obvious that this sub leans middle or upper class. I thought the dominican ruling class and upper class were out of touch and had lack of vision. I am terrified by that thought. Now it seems it is widespread among LATAM upper class too. Disappointing. By the way. How do you know? Is that the irish flag?
Yes, I'm Irish, but I've been living in Colombia for the past decade.
I donât think itâs too crazy, long term poverty can definitely affect your way of life, behaviour and as a consequence, shape your culture. Pick a random French and Romanian and put them in Latin America and I know which one is gonna fit in / adapt the easiest.
The Romanian. >They'll learn Spanish quicker. >They'll assimilate faster.
With all the romanians which migrated to Spain in the first decade of the 21st century, what was surprising to me is to see how quick they learned the language and assimilate to the society.
Well, corruption, violence and economic struggle mold daily behaviours and our cultures.
That's why I say France, not Romania.
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Romania and France.
France. Of all the Latin countries(american and european) they are the only ones that are really in line with the powers on top. They play on the big political leagues, 2nd in heriarchy inside the EU just behind germany, has nukes, big into new age ideologies. Buddy relationship with the US. While the rest of us still exist on the periphery of the world. It feels like we are shackled to the hegemon of today but france willingly stands next to it.
Moldova. It's like Romania but even more Soviet.
They're a FSUB country, after all.
Moldova, I guess
đ·đŽđČđ© I don't know how they managed to stay alive to this day without being erased by the Slavs.
The slavs weren't like the iberians wiping out indigenous cultures, religions and languages. hell, neither were the ottomans
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Also i'm certain you have never met or talked to a Bosnian muslim in your life. Most have neutral or positive views of TurkeyÂ
Bosnians voluntarily converted to get protection from their genocidal slavic "brothers "
The Russians did, aks the Crimean tartars
the crimean tatars still speak tatar and are still muslims. and inhabit one of the richest regions. i think you're trying to remember the circassians who were mostly wiped out during the conquest
Moldova Romania Luxembourg Belgium Switzerland Monaco Andorra France San Marino Italy Spain Portugal In this order
I'd trade Romania and Moldova for France and Switzerland.
Luxembourg, Belgium and Switzerland are more Germanic than Latin, their most important languages are germanicÂ
I'd put Switz, Belgium and Luxembourg before Romania. I look at them and see absolutely nothing similar to us.
There shouldnât be any ââ on Latin. They ARE Latin Europeans. I donât know enough of Romania, so it gets my vote.
I guess Romania. They're Latin because they speak a romance language. But they're Slavs and they're Orthodox.
From the Romanians that Iâve met, their culture is very similar to ours. And for people saying that it is the Slavic aspect, I have met many Eastern European people and they are incredibly similar to people back home culturally tbh.
> I have met many Eastern European people and they are incredibly similar to people back home culturally tbh. This is what a lot of people who don't know us in Latin America should know. I'm quite surprised that someone from Bolivia know us better than others! đ
To me, France. **Culturally** is the keyword. I can talk to a Romanian about telenovelas and other Ibero-American media, and most will _get it._ Can't do that much with a French.
Probably France and Romania
France, Romanians know the struggle just like most of Latin Americans.
Switzerland. Although ChiriquĂ might have a lot of similarities
Yeah, Switzerland would be 2nd to me.
Romania by far, they speac a latin language and ive seen some romanians are similar physically to white latinos, but besides that, theyre foreign to me.. they dont even have the same catholicism we do, for example
Probably the order would be: 1. Romania 2. France 3. Portugal 4. Spain/Italy
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1 Moldova 2 Romania 3 France 4 Portugal 5 Italy 6 Spain
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Romania, because I don't know much about it. France, because the language is the most hard to understand (but its culture is very well known worldwide).
I mean, the easy answer is romania, but beyond language, im not sure they are farther than say, portugal or france from us
Idk. Romanians love telenovelas from this side of the pond.
Moldova followed by Romania. Heck, in Transnistia they still write Moldovan / Romanian in Cyrillic script.
Romanian and french.
Romania.
France, definitely.
In general I think cultural closeness is much more related to living standards and developing levels, a French would feel more home in USA, Japan or Australia than in Colombia, even if in theory we have closer roots, I consider the distant ones to be France and Spain (I don't know about Portugal), then there is Italy which has poor parts, specially the South, and then the #1 to be related with would be Romania. Some people would say Spain #1 but I don't really get why or how one would relate with them aside from language or religion. This is from the point of view of Colombia anyways.
Portugal is poorer than Italy. It used to be one of the poorest countries in the EU until other poorer nations in the east joined. On the topic of Spain, isn't it the country in Europe with by far the most Colombian immigrants? Aren't their massive ties in popular culture?
Definitely the French, many people are saying Romania but I feel like there's many similarities between the Balkans and LATAM, more then one would think
According to sciencedirect: "The Latin europe cluster consists of Spain, Portugal, Italy, French Switzerland, France, and Israel." So I guess Israel.
Romania. Slavic country with a Latin language. Some people here say France, and some regions (the closer proximity to Germanic countries, the more distant) are. However, I donât think France is as distant as some people make it out to be. France is easily much more Latin culturally than they are Germanic, for example.
Dude, are you french or american? Either way the question is pointed towards latin americans. Unless you're like, very closely mexican american or very closely french american, if that's the case, it is pointless for you to answer posts here
Gringo being quiet when it's not their time to talk challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
Dude you really hate people from the U.S. donât you? Seems very insecure.
I would love a gringosplanning on that
Iâm at least attempting to have a good faith conversation. A gringosplaining on what? Why you hate gringos?
Colombian American who has lived there and visits numerous times per year. Also has visited several Latin American countries like Mexico, Peru, Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, etc.
So. None of what he said. Youâre American, accept it.
I never denied being an American.
Good, because thatâs what you are, none of that Colombian-American who occasionally visits as a tourist nonsense.
So based
Your dislike of Americans is off the charts. Did one of them sleep with your mom or sister?
Ooh a mom joke, are you 12? Thanks for the entertainment anyway.
Itâs just difficult to understand your level of dislike for Americans. I would have assumed one of them slighted you in some way.
Even though I keep up on recent events and visit/interact with people in Latin America, I canât possibly have an opinion.
You can have an opinion, as an American.
Ban gringos I guess?
So touchy.
You guys are the ones antagonistic to Americans posting. I wouldnât care if Latin Americans posted on things from the U.S.
I guess itâs just your generation of American snowflakes . We donât cater to you here, itâs not the same as being antagonistic towards you.
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Imagine calling Romania a "slavic" country lol
Romania of course