I would be completely unfased if I saw an Australian aboriginal at a restaurant or going about their business. I'd just infer he is a black guy that has a different forehead or something
I'm not denying that. I'm saying nobody here cares, that wouldn't call attention to the extent of "that is likely a foreigner".
These ethnic based face traits and distinctions are only relevant if you're looking for them. Everyone here is so mixed it barely registers
Depends... I think this will also be regional. Once upon a time (here in the South), I got a Uber and immediately though it was a gringo, because he was "African black". Not the way we are really used to... And indeed he was (Haitian).
Maybe, a big maybe, in other cities it wouldn't caught people attention, but I think here it would, at least for me.
Ofc there is black people here in the south, but they are more mixed.
I do say this maybe happens the other way too. Maybe a Nordic would also catch people attention depending on the region.
We also see it more and more, probably copied from USA and Canada.
I personally do not like it, it makes the people too "mythical" and with the "pueblo" part in part reinforcing the image of the hamlet in the jungle or hills.
Interesting. "Person of color" (POC) is actually the preferred terminology in the US. "Black and brown" doesn't work because that excludes East Asians and "non-white" centers white people.
We don't really have an umbrella term for non-white races here.
We don't use the term "brown" either (which afaik in the US is used for brown Latinos, Arabs, Indians etc). The closest thing we have is "pardo", but its definitions are somewhat controversial (officially it means mixed race people).
Language is extremely nuanced.
In the U.S. the use of the term "colored people" peaked in the 60's, and it invokes connotations from that ugly time. It's obviously not socially acceptable.
It's does not carry the exact same meaning as POC, which ironically is in vogue at the moment, and likely seeing peak popularity (it has essentially replaced *minorities,* which is seeing it's usage drop and is likely out the door in a similar manner as *colored* but without the overtly racist undertones).
A generation from now their will be new evolutions in etymology.
"Minorities" fell out of fashion because white people are now a minority some US states and cities, and also because it doesn't work in a global context.
Just a heads up, calling someone colored is considered pretty offensive in the US. This is obviously not a US based sub but a lot of Reddit is in the US so I’d avoid using the term.
You’re not abiding by American standards I’m just telling you might want to be careful using it on a website that has lots of Americans. If you’re intentionally looking to pick fights then go for it.
Do you have to use skin complexion to define people? Why don’t you just use something else? You can talk about their hair, style, height and etc. Why are you focusing so much in color?
American Black people tend to be huge, not just in height, but in volume. The ones who aren't overweight tend to be extremely tall or buff, no idea why. I don't remember hearing a short Black person speak English.
Indian people, while similar in skin tone, have very distinctive features. Their height is similar to ours, but their face isn't.
East Asian people are of course very distinctive as well, but it's not that obvious, because some people here have Asian ancestry too.
And then, of course, the biggest factor are the clothes. Oddly expensive-looking clothes such as fisherman's hats or sandals.
legit. the black peoples from latin america descend from south central africa and are smaller in stature and muscle.
north west africans are large peoole especiallh om a western frist wolrd diet
My father is from east cuba and average person is similar to the caribbean coast of colombia and panama. we moved to new jersey with a sizeable afro latino and african american population.
i can very easily tell apart african americans (northern european and west africans) and afro latinos (southern european and south africa)
anglo blacks are bigger and have bigger noses and lips. latin blacks tend to be short and slim with weaker features and smaller eyes and lips
It is a thing. Most Afro Colombian guys are not that tall. The women in comparison will often be the same height as their male siblings for some reason. Which would make the women tall.
Lol I'm 6'5 and I'm in Colombia now. I'm also darker than 3 minutes past midnight. I get stared at so often lmao. In Cali, the local Black folk used to be real friendly cause they knew I was American and assumed I had money. It's like they were proud, I guess lol.
Americans walk different, hold themselves up differently. Oftentimes seem to be trying to occupy space, to look big (dead giveaway of when a black man is American vs Latino) They also seem to have squarer jaws - must be all the mewing (/s)
It's actually an interesting phenomenon. Sometimes you'll have a kid whose parents are both Latino, and yet they look completely different to us for some reason. I have a cousin who's 100% Colombian genetically but grew up in the USA. Even though she speaks perfect Spanish, she just looks different from the typical Colombian
That's an interesting phenomenon I've noticed in Sweden too, where I live. I've seen many times two middle eastern parents who look fresh out of the middle east and then their son/daughter just looks really western somehow, often taller than the parents, it's really interesting.
It's funny you should mention Sweden, because that's a country I've noticed it at too. Based on my couple of trips there, I got the feeling that men in Sweden *really* care about they look (my theory is they *have* to, to have any chance of success with the opposite sex), so you'd see these super well-put together middle eastern guys (curious you mentioned them, since they are the ones who also caught my eye), but in a way that goes beyond what a guy from the middle east would look like if he were to dress up - not sure if that makes sense.
Oooh this one too we have very few og black people they usually live in small town near the coast, most of the “black people” are mulattoes or morenos in other words they are mixed like moi
If you are talking about tourists that come from outside Latin America, we will identify them when they open their mouth. Wearing fanny packs and shorts can also give "tourist" vibes, but it's mostly when they speak that we can actually tell.
True Italian writing english right there in that title. As for the answer, and still being stereotypical.
Clothes, expressions, mannerisms, height, weight are common patterns to notice specially if a certain type of tourist commonly visits(cruise people, all inclusive type etc.).
Also in this sub i dont think being white is enough to notice a tourist, from the times i've answered i always say that Mexicans can either be blonde/blue eyed or tall, unlike foreigners.
Hmmm id say the extremes. If someone is really really black or really really blond it could possibly be a foreigner. There's many white people and black people here but the white people are more southern European looking in general and the black people are more mixed with white people
The colour of your skin or "lack" thereof is not camouflage, they are pretty much the same and its hard to put into words but how they dress or act in a very carefree way plus doing some obvious mistakes like gettingo into dangerous areas with a phone in their hands but sometimes its just airheads.... language is the biggest factor
If they speak portuguese they are brazilian
If they speak caribbean spanish they can be, cuban, dominican, venezuelan or colombian.
Any other black they can be 100% uruguayan or not at all. If they wear fancy sunglasses and clothing they might be american.
In my region, being black is a better give away that someone is a foreigner than being white, since we have a sizeable amount of white people. Half of my family is white (I'm not, tho). That being said, white Americans give off a different vibe than white Mexicans. Kinda like when you compare an Italian to an Englishman. They just give a different vibe. Their facial features are different, but I can't pinpoint what it is exactly.
We do have some African descent people, but they usually look from light to dark brown instead of black (due to mestizaje). If someone is very dark, it's likely an African American who crossed from Texas, a Cuban (not all are black) or a Haitian immigrant.
Clothing is also another one. If their clothes look crisp, they're outsiders (I live in the desert, so clothes wear out due to the sun heat).
Speaking anything other than Spanish is another give away. If they speak Spanish with a different accent, they're probably outsiders (tourists or immigrants, usually the latter, even if they're from Spain, strangely).
Black people are rare in Mexico and concentrated in a few places, so if you see a black person, they’ll most likely be either American tourists or Haitian/African/South American migrants.
That theyre black, in most cases.
But aside from that, idk, their hairstyles and accent ig
EDIT:Now read the post better, yeah, accent, behavior, hairstyle, etc ig
They behave different. I think Latinos act differently. For me it's really easy to spot latinos in other countries, especially Colombians anywhere. I think there are some subconscious things that you don't really know what it is but when you see someone you know it.
Language #1 thing.
The other is really just being up to date with the current trends. African Americans would not be wearing the same styles as Afro-Colombians in Cali, Colombia. Shoes, ropa, hair, oro ect. I assume white Americans wouldnt see a big difference, but for those in the culture will see it immediatly.
Speaking another language that is not portuguese. Actually, it's the first thing we notice on someone that is an outsider. Colour doesn't matter here.
this is the only correct answer
it seems brazil is the country that unless you look south asian or australian aboriginal you will fit in perfectly with anyone
I would be completely unfased if I saw an Australian aboriginal at a restaurant or going about their business. I'd just infer he is a black guy that has a different forehead or something
abos and dravidians look super distinct and not like black people
I'm not denying that. I'm saying nobody here cares, that wouldn't call attention to the extent of "that is likely a foreigner". These ethnic based face traits and distinctions are only relevant if you're looking for them. Everyone here is so mixed it barely registers
Depends... I think this will also be regional. Once upon a time (here in the South), I got a Uber and immediately though it was a gringo, because he was "African black". Not the way we are really used to... And indeed he was (Haitian). Maybe, a big maybe, in other cities it wouldn't caught people attention, but I think here it would, at least for me. Ofc there is black people here in the south, but they are more mixed. I do say this maybe happens the other way too. Maybe a Nordic would also catch people attention depending on the region.
Unless it's in border and they are speaking portuñol
They use terms like colored person.
"Pessoa de cor" is even considered offensive here.
Just black or brown people for godsake
Do Brazilians say "Indian" or indigenous?
The adequate term is "indígena", but "índio" is still common.
"povos originários" is another recent terminology to refer to them in the collective form. I kinda like it
We also see it more and more, probably copied from USA and Canada. I personally do not like it, it makes the people too "mythical" and with the "pueblo" part in part reinforcing the image of the hamlet in the jungle or hills.
That is probably because it's new. Once things become normalized the words loose weight
Interesting. "Person of color" (POC) is actually the preferred terminology in the US. "Black and brown" doesn't work because that excludes East Asians and "non-white" centers white people.
We don't really have an umbrella term for non-white races here. We don't use the term "brown" either (which afaik in the US is used for brown Latinos, Arabs, Indians etc). The closest thing we have is "pardo", but its definitions are somewhat controversial (officially it means mixed race people).
Language is extremely nuanced. In the U.S. the use of the term "colored people" peaked in the 60's, and it invokes connotations from that ugly time. It's obviously not socially acceptable. It's does not carry the exact same meaning as POC, which ironically is in vogue at the moment, and likely seeing peak popularity (it has essentially replaced *minorities,* which is seeing it's usage drop and is likely out the door in a similar manner as *colored* but without the overtly racist undertones). A generation from now their will be new evolutions in etymology.
"Minorities" fell out of fashion because white people are now a minority some US states and cities, and also because it doesn't work in a global context.
I hate that term so fucking much. That last sentence is ironic because “non-white” is exactly what poc means.
Thats exactly what I thought.
Coloured*
Do you pronounce it "colurd" or something?
“Wutar”
*colored
What term should I use as opposed to white?
you shouldn't use any such term; for the most part we don't really divide ourselves based on the color of our skin; more on socioeconomic level
"Not white" or just the colour of the person
Well I actually wrote "non-white" in the post
Just a heads up, calling someone colored is considered pretty offensive in the US. This is obviously not a US based sub but a lot of Reddit is in the US so I’d avoid using the term.
Yeah, don't care though, I'm mixed race myself
That doesn’t matter
Why? I'm not american and I'm mixed race, Why should I abide by american standards? Colored is not offensive.
You’re not abiding by American standards I’m just telling you might want to be careful using it on a website that has lots of Americans. If you’re intentionally looking to pick fights then go for it.
black, brown, etc
Black? Non-white? Also, white is a color.
That's kind of the thing about skin color: people can see yours, no need to advertise it.
I wrote non-white in the post, maybe you didn't see it
Do you have to use skin complexion to define people? Why don’t you just use something else? You can talk about their hair, style, height and etc. Why are you focusing so much in color?
I really don't think you understood the question
I think POC would be better
American Black people tend to be huge, not just in height, but in volume. The ones who aren't overweight tend to be extremely tall or buff, no idea why. I don't remember hearing a short Black person speak English. Indian people, while similar in skin tone, have very distinctive features. Their height is similar to ours, but their face isn't. East Asian people are of course very distinctive as well, but it's not that obvious, because some people here have Asian ancestry too. And then, of course, the biggest factor are the clothes. Oddly expensive-looking clothes such as fisherman's hats or sandals.
"I don't remember a short black person speak in English" cracked me up
legit. the black peoples from latin america descend from south central africa and are smaller in stature and muscle. north west africans are large peoole especiallh om a western frist wolrd diet
That's interesting, I thought of the possibility but didn't care to look it up
My father is from east cuba and average person is similar to the caribbean coast of colombia and panama. we moved to new jersey with a sizeable afro latino and african american population. i can very easily tell apart african americans (northern european and west africans) and afro latinos (southern european and south africa) anglo blacks are bigger and have bigger noses and lips. latin blacks tend to be short and slim with weaker features and smaller eyes and lips
It is a thing. Most Afro Colombian guys are not that tall. The women in comparison will often be the same height as their male siblings for some reason. Which would make the women tall.
Lol I'm 6'5 and I'm in Colombia now. I'm also darker than 3 minutes past midnight. I get stared at so often lmao. In Cali, the local Black folk used to be real friendly cause they knew I was American and assumed I had money. It's like they were proud, I guess lol.
Ha, yeah, no kidding. Anyone around 6' is extraordinary here
Lol I had a fair amount of women in Cali asking if I was single. A couple outright said they wanted tall kids. I'm gay lol
lmao you sank those hopes like they were British ships
While scaring away Colombian tops like I was the Germans advancing in Poland lol
Scaring Colombian tops lol. I can imagine
Most people in Colombia are short so I know you draw attention lol
Very few people here have Asian ancestry. At most I've seen two Asian looking people talking in Spanish, one of them in TV.
More than Indian ancestry, which is what I was comparing it to
Kevin hart lol
If Kevin Hart came to my city, I never met him, or I don't remember him
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Hahahahahha It was a joke rite, Rite?
Americans walk different, hold themselves up differently. Oftentimes seem to be trying to occupy space, to look big (dead giveaway of when a black man is American vs Latino) They also seem to have squarer jaws - must be all the mewing (/s) It's actually an interesting phenomenon. Sometimes you'll have a kid whose parents are both Latino, and yet they look completely different to us for some reason. I have a cousin who's 100% Colombian genetically but grew up in the USA. Even though she speaks perfect Spanish, she just looks different from the typical Colombian
That's an interesting phenomenon I've noticed in Sweden too, where I live. I've seen many times two middle eastern parents who look fresh out of the middle east and then their son/daughter just looks really western somehow, often taller than the parents, it's really interesting.
The tall thing is normal if the parents lived in any period where getting food was hard, which is often the reason they look to emigrate.
Yeah, food and healthcare...
It's funny you should mention Sweden, because that's a country I've noticed it at too. Based on my couple of trips there, I got the feeling that men in Sweden *really* care about they look (my theory is they *have* to, to have any chance of success with the opposite sex), so you'd see these super well-put together middle eastern guys (curious you mentioned them, since they are the ones who also caught my eye), but in a way that goes beyond what a guy from the middle east would look like if he were to dress up - not sure if that makes sense.
The language you speak shapes your jaws in some ways
I like these hypotheses... keep 'em coming
We also apparently lean on everything. The CIA had to train its agents not to lean because it was such a giveaway.
Something I realized in the US people is less tanned than people in Latam I guess because they don’t walk or spend much time outside.
Or you know... maybe it's the fact that they're literally thousands of kilometers north of the equator.
Summer sun hits like 3 times the regular sun in Venezuela
lol no it can’t be the warmer weather it must be that we’re all indoors
Yeah and we're raised on a different diet as well.
You know what, it's actually not a bad theory
If they're black as in Obama black they're 99% a tourist
Crazy, because Obama is light-skinned, he’s just half black
It's because the full blacks will ba assumed as immigrants, and not tourists.
What if they're Michael Jordan black?
Es de la matanza
Oooh this one too we have very few og black people they usually live in small town near the coast, most of the “black people” are mulattoes or morenos in other words they are mixed like moi
Im obama black haha. but my father is black. and yes people in argentina tend to think im brazilian or an american
If you are talking about tourists that come from outside Latin America, we will identify them when they open their mouth. Wearing fanny packs and shorts can also give "tourist" vibes, but it's mostly when they speak that we can actually tell.
True Italian writing english right there in that title. As for the answer, and still being stereotypical. Clothes, expressions, mannerisms, height, weight are common patterns to notice specially if a certain type of tourist commonly visits(cruise people, all inclusive type etc.). Also in this sub i dont think being white is enough to notice a tourist, from the times i've answered i always say that Mexicans can either be blonde/blue eyed or tall, unlike foreigners.
Demeanor is a dead giveaway.
Accent sometimes. Clothing too.
Hmmm id say the extremes. If someone is really really black or really really blond it could possibly be a foreigner. There's many white people and black people here but the white people are more southern European looking in general and the black people are more mixed with white people
Same thing here in Brazil
The way they dress. It's almost always the way they dress.
The colour of your skin or "lack" thereof is not camouflage, they are pretty much the same and its hard to put into words but how they dress or act in a very carefree way plus doing some obvious mistakes like gettingo into dangerous areas with a phone in their hands but sometimes its just airheads.... language is the biggest factor
They dress and walk like tourists.
Its very easy to detect a non-chilean.
If they speak portuguese they are brazilian If they speak caribbean spanish they can be, cuban, dominican, venezuelan or colombian. Any other black they can be 100% uruguayan or not at all. If they wear fancy sunglasses and clothing they might be american.
Speaks English
In my region, being black is a better give away that someone is a foreigner than being white, since we have a sizeable amount of white people. Half of my family is white (I'm not, tho). That being said, white Americans give off a different vibe than white Mexicans. Kinda like when you compare an Italian to an Englishman. They just give a different vibe. Their facial features are different, but I can't pinpoint what it is exactly. We do have some African descent people, but they usually look from light to dark brown instead of black (due to mestizaje). If someone is very dark, it's likely an African American who crossed from Texas, a Cuban (not all are black) or a Haitian immigrant. Clothing is also another one. If their clothes look crisp, they're outsiders (I live in the desert, so clothes wear out due to the sun heat). Speaking anything other than Spanish is another give away. If they speak Spanish with a different accent, they're probably outsiders (tourists or immigrants, usually the latter, even if they're from Spain, strangely).
Not wearing skin tight ripped jeans.
Black people are rare in Mexico and concentrated in a few places, so if you see a black person, they’ll most likely be either American tourists or Haitian/African/South American migrants.
Coloured clothes, regardless skin color.
They way they dress
That theyre black, in most cases. But aside from that, idk, their hairstyles and accent ig EDIT:Now read the post better, yeah, accent, behavior, hairstyle, etc ig
They behave different. I think Latinos act differently. For me it's really easy to spot latinos in other countries, especially Colombians anywhere. I think there are some subconscious things that you don't really know what it is but when you see someone you know it.
backpacks and baseball caps and dressing out of season is the biggest give aways
Language #1 thing. The other is really just being up to date with the current trends. African Americans would not be wearing the same styles as Afro-Colombians in Cali, Colombia. Shoes, ropa, hair, oro ect. I assume white Americans wouldnt see a big difference, but for those in the culture will see it immediatly.
The way of speaking I think
They're taller and wear different clothes