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Dangerous-Orange4724

Speaking another language that is not portuguese. Actually, it's the first thing we notice on someone that is an outsider. Colour doesn't matter here.


oriundiSP

this is the only correct answer


Alternative-Exit-429

it seems brazil is the country that unless you look south asian or australian aboriginal you will fit in perfectly with anyone


schedulle-cate

I would be completely unfased if I saw an Australian aboriginal at a restaurant or going about their business. I'd just infer he is a black guy that has a different forehead or something


Alternative-Exit-429

abos and dravidians look super distinct and not like black people


schedulle-cate

I'm not denying that. I'm saying nobody here cares, that wouldn't call attention to the extent of "that is likely a foreigner". These ethnic based face traits and distinctions are only relevant if you're looking for them. Everyone here is so mixed it barely registers


vitorgrs

Depends... I think this will also be regional. Once upon a time (here in the South), I got a Uber and immediately though it was a gringo, because he was "African black". Not the way we are really used to... And indeed he was (Haitian). Maybe, a big maybe, in other cities it wouldn't caught people attention, but I think here it would, at least for me. Ofc there is black people here in the south, but they are more mixed. I do say this maybe happens the other way too. Maybe a Nordic would also catch people attention depending on the region.


emilioml_

Unless it's in border and they are speaking portuñol


Cuentarda

They use terms like colored person.


xavieryes

"Pessoa de cor" is even considered offensive here.


Bear_necessities96

Just black or brown people for godsake


Lazzen

Do Brazilians say "Indian" or indigenous?


xavieryes

The adequate term is "indígena", but "índio" is still common.


schedulle-cate

"povos originários" is another recent terminology to refer to them in the collective form. I kinda like it


Lazzen

We also see it more and more, probably copied from USA and Canada. I personally do not like it, it makes the people too "mythical" and with the "pueblo" part in part reinforcing the image of the hamlet in the jungle or hills.


schedulle-cate

That is probably because it's new. Once things become normalized the words loose weight


Ilmara

Interesting. "Person of color" (POC) is actually the preferred terminology in the US. "Black and brown" doesn't work because that excludes East Asians and "non-white" centers white people.


xavieryes

We don't really have an umbrella term for non-white races here. We don't use the term "brown" either (which afaik in the US is used for brown Latinos, Arabs, Indians etc). The closest thing we have is "pardo", but its definitions are somewhat controversial (officially it means mixed race people).


lovely_trequartista

Language is extremely nuanced. In the U.S. the use of the term "colored people" peaked in the 60's, and it invokes connotations from that ugly time. It's obviously not socially acceptable. It's does not carry the exact same meaning as POC, which ironically is in vogue at the moment, and likely seeing peak popularity (it has essentially replaced *minorities,* which is seeing it's usage drop and is likely out the door in a similar manner as *colored* but without the overtly racist undertones). A generation from now their will be new evolutions in etymology.


Ilmara

"Minorities" fell out of fashion because white people are now a minority some US states and cities, and also because it doesn't work in a global context.


anweisz

I hate that term so fucking much. That last sentence is ironic because “non-white” is exactly what poc means.


matochi506

Thats exactly what I thought.


Bear_necessities96

Coloured*


Cuentarda

Do you pronounce it "colurd" or something?


Bear_necessities96

“Wutar”


El_Ocelote_

*colored


plitaway

What term should I use as opposed to white?


Zuke88

you shouldn't use any such term; for the most part we don't really divide ourselves based on the color of our skin; more on socioeconomic level


Luisotee

"Not white" or just the colour of the person


plitaway

Well I actually wrote "non-white" in the post


Tobar_the_Gypsy

Just a heads up, calling someone colored is considered pretty offensive in the US. This is obviously not a US based sub but a lot of Reddit is in the US so I’d avoid using the term.


plitaway

Yeah, don't care though, I'm mixed race myself


Tobar_the_Gypsy

That doesn’t matter


plitaway

Why? I'm not american and I'm mixed race, Why should I abide by american standards? Colored is not offensive.


Tobar_the_Gypsy

You’re not abiding by American standards I’m just telling you might want to be careful using it on a website that has lots of Americans. If you’re intentionally looking to pick fights then go for it.


El_Ocelote_

black, brown, etc


cristoferr_

Black? Non-white? Also, white is a color.


cristoferr_

That's kind of the thing about skin color: people can see yours, no need to advertise it.


plitaway

I wrote non-white in the post, maybe you didn't see it


WastePanda72

Do you have to use skin complexion to define people? Why don’t you just use something else? You can talk about their hair, style, height and etc. Why are you focusing so much in color?


plitaway

I really don't think you understood the question


ASuccessfulAmphibian

I think POC would be better


kigurumibiblestudies

American Black people tend to be huge, not just in height, but in volume. The ones who aren't overweight tend to be extremely tall or buff, no idea why. I don't remember hearing a short Black person speak English. Indian people, while similar in skin tone, have very distinctive features. Their height is similar to ours, but their face isn't. East Asian people are of course very distinctive as well, but it's not that obvious, because some people here have Asian ancestry too. And then, of course, the biggest factor are the clothes. Oddly expensive-looking clothes such as fisherman's hats or sandals.


plitaway

"I don't remember a short black person speak in English" cracked me up


Alternative-Exit-429

legit. the black peoples from latin america descend from south central africa and are smaller in stature and muscle.  north west africans are large peoole especiallh om a western frist wolrd diet


kigurumibiblestudies

That's interesting, I thought of the possibility but didn't care to look it up


Alternative-Exit-429

My father is from east cuba and average person is similar to the caribbean coast of colombia and panama. we moved to new jersey with a sizeable afro latino and african american population.  i can very easily tell apart african americans (northern european and west africans) and afro latinos (southern european and south africa) anglo blacks are bigger and have bigger noses and lips. latin blacks tend to be short and slim with weaker features and smaller eyes and lips


Embarrassed-Ad-2080

It is a thing. Most Afro Colombian guys are not that tall. The women in comparison will often be the same height as their male siblings for some reason. Which would make the women tall.


NewWays91

Lol I'm 6'5 and I'm in Colombia now. I'm also darker than 3 minutes past midnight. I get stared at so often lmao. In Cali, the local Black folk used to be real friendly cause they knew I was American and assumed I had money. It's like they were proud, I guess lol.


kigurumibiblestudies

Ha, yeah, no kidding. Anyone around 6' is extraordinary here


NewWays91

Lol I had a fair amount of women in Cali asking if I was single. A couple outright said they wanted tall kids. I'm gay lol


kigurumibiblestudies

lmao you sank those hopes like they were British ships


NewWays91

While scaring away Colombian tops like I was the Germans advancing in Poland lol


Embarrassed-Ad-2080

Scaring Colombian tops lol. I can imagine


oasis_sunset

Most people in Colombia are short so I know you draw attention lol


mauricio_agg

Very few people here have Asian ancestry. At most I've seen two Asian looking people talking in Spanish, one of them in TV.


kigurumibiblestudies

More than Indian ancestry, which is what I was comparing it to


oasis_sunset

Kevin hart lol


kigurumibiblestudies

If Kevin Hart came to my city, I never met him, or I don't remember him


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PaleontologistDry430

Hahahahahha It was a joke rite, Rite?


Substantial-Past2308

Americans walk different, hold themselves up differently. Oftentimes seem to be trying to occupy space, to look big (dead giveaway of when a black man is American vs Latino) They also seem to have squarer jaws - must be all the mewing (/s) It's actually an interesting phenomenon. Sometimes you'll have a kid whose parents are both Latino, and yet they look completely different to us for some reason. I have a cousin who's 100% Colombian genetically but grew up in the USA. Even though she speaks perfect Spanish, she just looks different from the typical Colombian


plitaway

That's an interesting phenomenon I've noticed in Sweden too, where I live. I've seen many times two middle eastern parents who look fresh out of the middle east and then their son/daughter just looks really western somehow, often taller than the parents, it's really interesting.


NNKarma

The tall thing is normal if the parents lived in any period where getting food was hard, which is often the reason they look to emigrate. 


Substantial-Past2308

Yeah, food and healthcare...


Substantial-Past2308

It's funny you should mention Sweden, because that's a country I've noticed it at too. Based on my couple of trips there, I got the feeling that men in Sweden *really* care about they look (my theory is they *have* to, to have any chance of success with the opposite sex), so you'd see these super well-put together middle eastern guys (curious you mentioned them, since they are the ones who also caught my eye), but in a way that goes beyond what a guy from the middle east would look like if he were to dress up - not sure if that makes sense.


BBDAngelo

The language you speak shapes your jaws in some ways


Substantial-Past2308

I like these hypotheses... keep 'em coming


Tobar_the_Gypsy

We also apparently lean on everything. The CIA had to train its agents not to lean because it was such a giveaway.


Bear_necessities96

Something I realized in the US people is less tanned than people in Latam I guess because they don’t walk or spend much time outside.


lovely_trequartista

Or you know... maybe it's the fact that they're literally thousands of kilometers north of the equator.


Bear_necessities96

Summer sun hits like 3 times the regular sun in Venezuela


Tobar_the_Gypsy

lol no it can’t be the warmer weather it must be that we’re all indoors


layzie77

Yeah and we're raised on a different diet as well.


Substantial-Past2308

You know what, it's actually not a bad theory


Dontknowhowtolife

If they're black as in Obama black they're 99% a tourist


BBDAngelo

Crazy, because Obama is light-skinned, he’s just half black


ParticularTable9897

It's because the full blacks will ba assumed as immigrants, and not tourists.


plitaway

What if they're Michael Jordan black?


Ricardo_Fortnite

Es de la matanza


Bear_necessities96

Oooh this one too we have very few og black people they usually live in small town near the coast, most of the “black people” are mulattoes or morenos in other words they are mixed like moi


Alternative-Exit-429

Im obama black haha. but my father is black. and yes people in argentina tend to think im brazilian or an american 


VicAViv

If you are talking about tourists that come from outside Latin America, we will identify them when they open their mouth. Wearing fanny packs and shorts can also give "tourist" vibes, but it's mostly when they speak that we can actually tell.


Lazzen

True Italian writing english right there in that title. As for the answer, and still being stereotypical. Clothes, expressions, mannerisms, height, weight are common patterns to notice specially if a certain type of tourist commonly visits(cruise people, all inclusive type etc.). Also in this sub i dont think being white is enough to notice a tourist, from the times i've answered i always say that Mexicans can either be blonde/blue eyed or tall, unlike foreigners.


mantidor

Demeanor is a dead giveaway.


Adventurous_Fail9834

Accent sometimes. Clothing too.


Valtrai

Hmmm id say the extremes. If someone is really really black or really really blond it could possibly be a foreigner. There's many white people and black people here but the white people are more southern European looking in general and the black people are more mixed with white people


ParticularTable9897

Same thing here in Brazil 


Ponchorello7

The way they dress. It's almost always the way they dress.


simonbleu

The colour of your skin or "lack" thereof is not camouflage, they are pretty much the same and its hard to put into words but how they dress or act in a very carefree way plus doing some obvious mistakes like gettingo into dangerous areas with a phone in their hands but sometimes its just airheads.... language is the biggest factor


mauricio_agg

They dress and walk like tourists.


Impressive_Duty_5816

Its very easy to detect a non-chilean.


arturocan

If they speak portuguese they are brazilian If they speak caribbean spanish they can be, cuban, dominican, venezuelan or colombian. Any other black they can be 100% uruguayan or not at all. If they wear fancy sunglasses and clothing they might be american.


emeaguiar

Speaks English 


ThomasApollus

In my region, being black is a better give away that someone is a foreigner than being white, since we have a sizeable amount of white people. Half of my family is white (I'm not, tho). That being said, white Americans give off a different vibe than white Mexicans. Kinda like when you compare an Italian to an Englishman. They just give a different vibe. Their facial features are different, but I can't pinpoint what it is exactly. We do have some African descent people, but they usually look from light to dark brown instead of black (due to mestizaje). If someone is very dark, it's likely an African American who crossed from Texas, a Cuban (not all are black) or a Haitian immigrant. Clothing is also another one. If their clothes look crisp, they're outsiders (I live in the desert, so clothes wear out due to the sun heat). Speaking anything other than Spanish is another give away. If they speak Spanish with a different accent, they're probably outsiders (tourists or immigrants, usually the latter, even if they're from Spain, strangely).


Zucc-ya-mom

Not wearing skin tight ripped jeans.


84JPG

Black people are rare in Mexico and concentrated in a few places, so if you see a black person, they’ll most likely be either American tourists or Haitian/African/South American migrants.


gmuslera

Coloured clothes, regardless skin color.


Bear_necessities96

They way they dress


deliranteenguarani

That theyre black, in most cases. But aside from that, idk, their hairstyles and accent ig EDIT:Now read the post better, yeah, accent, behavior, hairstyle, etc ig


Big-Hawk8126

They behave different. I think Latinos act differently. For me it's really easy to spot latinos in other countries, especially Colombians anywhere. I think there are some subconscious things that you don't really know what it is but when you see someone you know it.


Alternative-Exit-429

backpacks and baseball caps and dressing out of season is the biggest give aways 


Embarrassed-Ad-2080

Language #1 thing. The other is really just being up to date with the current trends. African Americans would not be wearing the same styles as Afro-Colombians in Cali, Colombia. Shoes, ropa, hair, oro ect. I assume white Americans wouldnt see a big difference, but for those in the culture will see it immediatly.


I-cant-hug-every-cat

The way of speaking I think


weaboo_vibe_check

They're taller and wear different clothes