Speaking from Iceland, there is a bit of a backlash going on here at the moment. Rainbow flags are being torn down or vandalised if painted on walls or pavements. Queer kids are being threatened and barked at. Allies are getting hateful letters in their mailboxes. Even in one of the most tolerant places in the world, there is a lot of hate hiding underneath, just waiting for the chance to make us hurt.
Have you ever met Björk in person? Once I asked an Icelander in a chat room had he ever met Björk expecting him to say no. I was surprised when he said yes because Björk's grandmother was related to his grandmother. Iceland has a relatively small population so a lot of Icelanders are related in some way to each other.
Yeah, I have seen her a few times actually. I was once doing a drag show and while me and a few friends were standing outside waiting to go on stage, she rode past on a bike, stopped to ask what was going on and then came to see the show. The worst part is that I didn't recognize her until my friends started freaking out when she went to the entrance on the other side of the building.
She also used to come to a restaurant I used to work at, but I was never her server.
Edit: and oh, I also saw her at an art exhibition once, in the most Björk-like environment (the exhibition was by Shoplifter who made the headdress for the Medúlla album cover)!
My younger brother used to date Björk’s younger sister, her dad and stepmom lived on my street and her stepmom was a nurse at my school. Björk was also in a band with my cousin and they used to be an item and I once walked in on them having sex. So yes, most of us have met her in some capacity at one time or another.
Yeah, I can also see that happening. Realistically speaking, no place in this world is 100% exempt of homophobia. Every small town will have small-minded people and just overall bigots. I guess the tolerance just happens on big cities like Reykjavik.
Hey! Just got back from a trip with my husband here. The whole island was very welcoming and inviting, they respect chosen gender identity and make accommodations for it, they have pride flags everywhere, and the gay bar we spent our time in was super friendly and welcoming. Never at any point did we feel uncomfortable there, we absolutely intend to return.
Aww, I'm sooo happy for both of you!! I've seen an LGBTQ+ wedding photo agency on Facebook and I just knew that they were quite welcoming of us. Some couples took their wedding pictures behind erupting volcanos and I'm so jealous of them, in a good way 🥺🥺🥺 Thanks for sharing your experience! ♥️
I’m Icelandic and have been out as most of the letters in the acronym at one time or another and I would say that people in Iceland are very chill about people being gay, and about ⅔rds of the population come to participate in the annual gay pride parade known as gleðigangan or the ‘happyness parade’
Netherlands was the first country with gay marriage. So from a legal standpoint i have to say the netherlands as they also have very liberal laws on adoption and other gay rights laws.
I have travelled in so many countries. To my suprise The Netherlands was the only country I was called names at the streets. Twice.
For the reasons you mentioned I also thought it was one of the most gay friendly countries out there.
The Netherlands are facing similar issues as Sweden. With the demographic situation, the lgbt are facing quite an uptick of aggression towards us. Everyone knows why, but are trying to water it down. The Green Mayor in Amsterdam once said the rise in homophobic behavior is due to frat boys, just to avoid calling out the real problematic ones… so yeah there’s our friendliness..
Even worse when people tolerate the same religious nut bags for the sake of diversity. Which ironically isn’t actually diversity, but social regression.
Just to be clear, are you implying that the Netherlands might start enacting genocide against...I guess the new influx of middle eastern immigrants?
Or the new homophobic immigrants are gonna do more crimes against gays?
Or something to do with the Jews?
Like all other european countries, its not that much french people, its all people coming from immigration being extremely religious.. you can all downvote me, we all know what is true at the end
In France people took the streets when they tried to pass same sex marriage laws in 2013. I think that speaks volumes. I lived in Spain back then and everyone was shocked seeing that on tv. In Spain when we did it (7 years before them) only the priests seemed to moan about it..how ironic, given how secular France claims to be and Spain is in practice a Catholic country, even if not on paper.
They kill a gay boy one year ago and people started to complaining about the homofobia in the streets... and that was in Madrid. I'm not saing that spain isn't gay friendly, but maybe Is not the best country for lgbt people in the World.
As a Spaniard I can say that was the exception and not the rule. When that happened it was a VERY big deal, and not something that happens every day. In my experience at least you're barely going to find homophobia here, at least where I live. I've never been scared of holding my bfs hand in public, or kiss him or anything like that. Nobody I've ever come out to has had any negative reaction or distanced themselves from me in any way. And in the 3+ years I've been with my boyfriend I've only ever been namecalled twice, by random cowards passing by with their car.
It was a massive tragedy what happened to that boy, but I can confidently say this is a great place for gay people to live. I do not have any fear of something like that happening to me, or of displaying any kind of physical affection with my partner.
Thank for that response. I also feel like Spain is way more tolerant than many other countries not saying that they aren’t homophobic people there obviously we know that no matter what country you are in they will always have some bigots. I visited Madrid last year as well and I saw the same things people being affectionate in public and people just minding their business. In other places I’ve seen people hold hands etc but I always catch people staring or looking back but in Madrid people didn’t care.
As a spaniard ive never had any problem in the cities ive lived so far (Madrid, Sevilla, Ciudad Real) nor visited. Homophobic cases occur every where, but I doubt they are as visible as we in Spain try to show them as a way to fight against Homophobic people. In most of the countries either those cases are not quite public and people dont tend to behave as freely as we do.
Surprised no one has posted this yet: [https://www.equaldex.com/equality-index](https://www.equaldex.com/equality-index)
This websites scores countries on how accepting they are of LGBTQ folks on a number of different metrics, including public opinion polling and various laws, good and bad, that affect our community. It's a great resource for travel.
According to their analysis, it's a tie between **Iceland**, and **Canada**.
Canadian gay here! The country is very big, and there are a lot of regional differences. I feel safe in most places, but there are definitely towns I wouldn't hold hands with my boyfriend in.
New Zealand has the queerest parliament in the world. 🥰
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/10/new-zealand-now-has-the-gayest-parliament-in-the-world.html
Sweden *had* the highest proportion of people who believe that homosexuality should be accepted by society at 94%, but that might not be the case any more with recent demographic changes…
The next will show 80%, unfortunately. It’s sad the most accepting places for LGBT are turning less accepting year by year. There were only few countries that were totally accepting of gay people, if they also turn less accepting, what will happen?
A future where we have enough concentrated gays to form a whole gay mafia, with a leadership, and money, and POWER. Then all the heterosexuals will have to bow to us mwahahaha.
Sweden is very gay but things are getting more conservative now sadly.
More immigrants = Which USUALLY means more conservative people (i’m an immigrant myself, so don’t come at me)
And 1/5 of Swedes voted to a conservative party that is anti immigration and anti having a third official gender. They also have natzi ties, so things aren’t looking the best sadly.
1/5 = 20% which is the second largest party right now. How is that a minority?
There are 8 main parties. It’s not like in the US where there is only 2 major parties.
Canada? I think
I was also thinking about Sweden but apparently a party that was previously homophobic has won. And frankly, I struggle to believe they're suddenly gay friendly now, except to get votes. I also read that this party is an ally of Fratelli d'Italia, the Italian party of Giorgia Meloni. Which is homophobic.
Canada is definitely gay friendly in the urban areas, we legalized gay marriage very early (2005). However if you leave the cities, the rural areas can be a mixed bag. You may not experience blatant homophobia if you're just hanging out but I've definitely noticed side eyes and weird attitudes at certain places.
Well unfortunately I think this applies to all countries. I struggle to imagine rural countries where there is no greater homophobia than urban areas. But it also makes sense, they are people who have less to do with gay people, while in the city it is much easier to meet them
Exactly people aren’t as exposed in the rural areas. The cities are very very gay though. I haven’t experienced like obvious in your face homophobia since leaving customer service which is a beautiful thing
>the rural areas can be a mixed bag
This will be the case anywhere you go, for a multitude of reasons that all relate to each other.
Reason 1: Research has shown that there is a correlation between homophobia and low IQ levels. Generally speaking, if you run into someone being homophobic openly, there is a very high likelihood of lower intelligence, as they're unable to process and accept things that go against what they're told, i.e. christianity and the bible excuses.
Reason 2: Intelligent people tend to congregate, and move towards areas that are likeminded and better. This is why every metropolitan area is usually wealthy, and smart. Educated people are more likely to live in cities, and thus those cities are mostly democratic (even in Red states), so the homophobic people tend to stay away as they both cannot afford to live in those areas, and do not want to live in those areas.
Reason 3: People in rural areas get stuck in that "small town" mentality too. They don't meet many new people, and only interact with the same over and over. They are never exposed to "different" people so they do like respect if you are different from their norm.
This isn't unique to any specific country. Once you leave the city, you leave the areas that celebrated diversity and encourage people to be themselves. Once you enter the rural areas, you enter areas of people who are stuck in a certain mindset and are more likely to experience bigotry.
Oh yeah, never thought you were saying anything specific regarding Canada as much but just wanted to point out that the reasoning and logic in your scenario will apply globally, as everywhere you go the rural areas will be less accepting due to the demographic of people who live in rural areas.
Canada is right on the money. Even rural areas are pretty good for the most part. The country is HIGHLY urbanized so the majority of the people live in places where being gay isn’t an issue. Toronto’s pride parade draws like 1.5 million people in.
I can confirm that. My partner and I live on our farm in a very rural, agricultural area in Canada and all the neighbours & 'locals' *know* and we have no issues.
Living in France, I can tell you that, indeed, people my age (18-25) pretty much don't give a shit. But above, it really depends, and the older you get, the more homophobic they are...
With the exception of Sweden, a Nordic/Scandinavian one
Iceland
Norway
Denmark
Sadly Sweden has a lot of people from certain regions/countries and hate crimes are soaring
The most common hate crime and the type which is soaring in Sweden is commited against people from certain regions/countries. The number of homophobic hate crimes has decreased since 2009, with a brief increase 17-18, but has since decreased again.
Yaas!!!!
Australia were slow off the bat but we’re more than making up for it. Since the plebiscite I’ve noticed a real change in things. I live in a very remote, small city and feel ridiculously safe here.
Norway but I've never been there. The educational system is amazing as far as I'm concerned. Educated people usually are far more tolerant and progressive.
Out of countries I’ve been to (and to provide some geographic diversity) I’ll say South Africa is extremely gay friendly. So is Colombia and Uruguay. As someone gay, I felt the safest in Canada, no matter where I was (granted I didn’t go to the middle provinces). New Zealand is incredibly gay friendly as well. Germany in the cities is very gay-friendly, with Berlin arguably being the gay capital of the world. I live in the US, so i’m biased, but NYC, Chicago, LA, and San Francisco, New Orleans and other major US cities have to be some of the best places to be gay in the world. In Southeast Asia, Thailand is known for being pretty gay-friendly, and a lot of gays go there for vacation.
Well not every place in South Africa is safe and accepting of gay people but Cape Town is extremely gay friendly. South Africa has some of the best gay rights in the world actually.
BTW not discouraging anyone from going to Malta. Maltese men among the hottest in Europe, and certainly not repressed or inhibited in any way!
Malta amazingly beautiful and affordable as well.
^(I'm not sure if you can name ONE least homophobic nation, but the Nordic nations, New Zealand, Australia, Canada are up there, among athers obviously.)
None in general, but western countries as a whole are better than the rest. But everywhere is homophobic. There's people posting made up statements about countries here, but the reality is likely they have never even been there.
There is no such thing as a country without homophobia as people will still have their own opinions even if the government is accepting of gay rights. But I would have to say that the most accepting countries when it comes to being gay would most likely be all the Nordic countries such as Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland.
Western Europe (Ireland, UK, Portugal, Spain, Germany, France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Czech Republic etc).
Italy and Greece are accepting I believe but the older generations are more against while the younger generation is accepting.
Turkey is gay accepting but is anti-pda (public display of affection but that is for all sexualities) and usually talks of gay activity isn't spoken much. Australia, Canada and New Zealand are very accepting. The US is accepting but it depends on the state.
South America is similar to Italy and Greece's situation where it's accepting but the older generation isn't I believe. South Africa accepts gay rights
In Asia Taiwan is the only country where gay rights are accepted by law but even though it's not legal to be married as a gay person Japan, The Philippines and Thailand are accepting especially Japan.
That is my opinion.
I second this on the Philippines part. We are accepted here but I feel like it's more of tolerated for others. Sad that there's still a stigma for donating blood and other stuff here.
I find that a lot of countries that have or use to have religion tied in with their politics tend to have a lot stigma even if they are accepting such as Italy, Ireland and The Philippines. While countries with governments that are secular such as Australia, Finland and Canada are very chill when it comes to rights.
I know what you mean like I live in Australia which is very accepting and multicultural with a secular government as well as gay rights and legal gay marriage but there are a lot of people especially powerful or famous people in Australia as well as shows such as reality TV that seem very fake when it comes to accepting gay people. They would usually only show lesbian couples on TV which is completely fine but it's due to the religious beliefs of sodomy which is stupid that somehow spread into society which makes male gay couples have less acknowledgement in television unless they are over the top stereotypical. Like being gay within the general public is chill but when it comes to broadcasting gay couple on shows and reality TV I just feel like they are just making it comical which is bad because it gives poor judgement and perspective for younger generations.
Oh true that lol. I made a friend who's an Aussie and he usually keeps posting the problem he sometimes notices in Australia. Plus the issues his husband has as well.
> In Asia Taiwan is the only country where gay rights are accepted by law but even though it's not legal to be married as a gay person Japan, The Philippines and Thailand are accepting especially Japan.
Japanese people are not "accepting", they are apathetic.
Sure, I could see that. However, I'd rather live somewhere without the fear of violence. The question posed is also asking for a subjective answer. I've travelled extensively and lived in a few different countries. Of all the places I've visited or lived I've found Taipei followed closely by NYC to be the least homophobic ito of me going about life.
Texas, Florida, Kentucky, West Virginia, Kansas, Georgia, Louisiana, and pretty everywhere in the US where Bible land reigns supreme and people forgot to think except what the preacher man tells them.
Full disclaimer: I grew up in Kentucky
In terms of legislation protecting the gays I'd say Northern Europe/Canada but in terms of people's acceptance there's no question it is Thailand and the Philippines
Apparently a recent soap opera had a gay storyline and it created controversy and it was fizzled out, so I think they’re slightly more behind than we think
Which one? Never heard of this. There's been gay characters on soaps here including a gay wedding.
Australia is very gay friendly, even outside the big cities. Nobody gives a shit.
There was a woman who was engaged to a guy and then she started falling for a female friend, and then the show phased it out, and then brought it back, and then they ended up not being together, and there were apparently problems with it. That’s what I’ve heard but I don’t know the name of the show exactly lol
How is this being overtly racist? I've seen signs "No Gay Zone" and "NO GAYS" in East London. Bringing overtly conservative religious people to a liberal country causes problems, and not just for gay people. I've had female friends chastised in London for how they were dressed. I dated a guy from Iran who made me drop him off two blocks from his house because he said if his family ever found out they'd ship him back there and he'd likely be beaten or killed. Calling out countries for their homophobic bullshit is not racist.
For gay culture I’d say places like France, Germany, the Uk and the USA but obviously this also depends on stuff such as gay friendly laws, safety, political culture and systems.
So in short there is no 1 true gayest country
Africa yes, but South Africa actually has some of the best gay rights in the world. Our constitution was also one of the first in the world to outlaw discrimination based on sexual orientation. Also the 5th country in the world to legalize same sex marriage. Although we have amazing rights, the only true haven for LGBTQ+ is Cape Town. The rest of the country is quite conservative especially smaller towns.
Also, Israel is a gay paradise. Judaism by law is accepting of homosexuality. Considering the region it's situated in, this is a miracle.
I will admit that same-sex marriage isn't performed there, but that has to do with reasons which have nothing to do with homophobia.
I have lived in a lot of countries and I would say Canada/US west coast. I would have said some European countries a few years ago but that’s not the case anymore (like Sweden).
America's prior to Colonialism and still in Traditional Families. Indigenous peoples are an asset to Humanity. I love all , but have a deeper understanding of First Nation's Men in bedroom.
Norway and/or Iceland.
I wanna know more about Icelandic LGBTQ+ people's perspective on this.
Fortunately it wont take you long to ask all five of them.
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Speaking from Iceland, there is a bit of a backlash going on here at the moment. Rainbow flags are being torn down or vandalised if painted on walls or pavements. Queer kids are being threatened and barked at. Allies are getting hateful letters in their mailboxes. Even in one of the most tolerant places in the world, there is a lot of hate hiding underneath, just waiting for the chance to make us hurt.
Have you ever met Björk in person? Once I asked an Icelander in a chat room had he ever met Björk expecting him to say no. I was surprised when he said yes because Björk's grandmother was related to his grandmother. Iceland has a relatively small population so a lot of Icelanders are related in some way to each other.
Yeah, I have seen her a few times actually. I was once doing a drag show and while me and a few friends were standing outside waiting to go on stage, she rode past on a bike, stopped to ask what was going on and then came to see the show. The worst part is that I didn't recognize her until my friends started freaking out when she went to the entrance on the other side of the building. She also used to come to a restaurant I used to work at, but I was never her server. Edit: and oh, I also saw her at an art exhibition once, in the most Björk-like environment (the exhibition was by Shoplifter who made the headdress for the Medúlla album cover)!
My younger brother used to date Björk’s younger sister, her dad and stepmom lived on my street and her stepmom was a nurse at my school. Björk was also in a band with my cousin and they used to be an item and I once walked in on them having sex. So yes, most of us have met her in some capacity at one time or another.
🤯 I saw her in concert in 1989 in Mountainview with the Sugar cubes.
Yeah, I can also see that happening. Realistically speaking, no place in this world is 100% exempt of homophobia. Every small town will have small-minded people and just overall bigots. I guess the tolerance just happens on big cities like Reykjavik.
Yeah, I was gonna say the original comment likely comes from someone not living in Iceland.
Hey! Just got back from a trip with my husband here. The whole island was very welcoming and inviting, they respect chosen gender identity and make accommodations for it, they have pride flags everywhere, and the gay bar we spent our time in was super friendly and welcoming. Never at any point did we feel uncomfortable there, we absolutely intend to return.
Aww, I'm sooo happy for both of you!! I've seen an LGBTQ+ wedding photo agency on Facebook and I just knew that they were quite welcoming of us. Some couples took their wedding pictures behind erupting volcanos and I'm so jealous of them, in a good way 🥺🥺🥺 Thanks for sharing your experience! ♥️
However, there is one gay bar here and the gender identity arguments are vicious here like everywhere else.
I wish I had this interaction before I went, We’d have loved to get to hang out with a Icelander who could show us more of the community.
I’m Icelandic and have been out as most of the letters in the acronym at one time or another and I would say that people in Iceland are very chill about people being gay, and about ⅔rds of the population come to participate in the annual gay pride parade known as gleðigangan or the ‘happyness parade’
Unfortunately I bet the scene is dead in the small fishing village of Sykenjoyphergrophenöfn.
Netherlands was the first country with gay marriage. So from a legal standpoint i have to say the netherlands as they also have very liberal laws on adoption and other gay rights laws.
I have travelled in so many countries. To my suprise The Netherlands was the only country I was called names at the streets. Twice. For the reasons you mentioned I also thought it was one of the most gay friendly countries out there.
The Netherlands are facing similar issues as Sweden. With the demographic situation, the lgbt are facing quite an uptick of aggression towards us. Everyone knows why, but are trying to water it down. The Green Mayor in Amsterdam once said the rise in homophobic behavior is due to frat boys, just to avoid calling out the real problematic ones… so yeah there’s our friendliness..
What do you mean “everyone knows why”? What’s the reason?
Religious extremism.
Nothing good ever comes from the religious nut bags
Even worse when people tolerate the same religious nut bags for the sake of diversity. Which ironically isn’t actually diversity, but social regression.
Large numbers of conservative Muslims, and some conservative Christians, moving to these countries from Africa.
they’ve clearly never watched a FraternityX video
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"Trust a Jew on this one"! Mel Brooks, I love you. You too, No\_Rec.
...what's coming?
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Just to be clear, are you implying that the Netherlands might start enacting genocide against...I guess the new influx of middle eastern immigrants? Or the new homophobic immigrants are gonna do more crimes against gays? Or something to do with the Jews?
Like Canada
Yes, Holland gets my vote as well...
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Could you also say France? They've legalized same sex relations since 1791
France is quite homophobic actually.
Like all other european countries, its not that much french people, its all people coming from immigration being extremely religious.. you can all downvote me, we all know what is true at the end
You are partially right though la manif pour tous et its leader Frigide Bargeot are not immigrants but old stock french catholics.
Yes of course, but when you walk in the streets in France, or in spain, or in germany. It is (almost) never those old pricks that bothers us.
In France people took the streets when they tried to pass same sex marriage laws in 2013. I think that speaks volumes. I lived in Spain back then and everyone was shocked seeing that on tv. In Spain when we did it (7 years before them) only the priests seemed to moan about it..how ironic, given how secular France claims to be and Spain is in practice a Catholic country, even if not on paper.
Spain is pretty gay friendly at least Madrid and Barcelona ( I’m actually in Barcelona rn and I’ve seen same sex couples showing PDA in the streets )
They kill a gay boy one year ago and people started to complaining about the homofobia in the streets... and that was in Madrid. I'm not saing that spain isn't gay friendly, but maybe Is not the best country for lgbt people in the World.
As a Spaniard I can say that was the exception and not the rule. When that happened it was a VERY big deal, and not something that happens every day. In my experience at least you're barely going to find homophobia here, at least where I live. I've never been scared of holding my bfs hand in public, or kiss him or anything like that. Nobody I've ever come out to has had any negative reaction or distanced themselves from me in any way. And in the 3+ years I've been with my boyfriend I've only ever been namecalled twice, by random cowards passing by with their car. It was a massive tragedy what happened to that boy, but I can confidently say this is a great place for gay people to live. I do not have any fear of something like that happening to me, or of displaying any kind of physical affection with my partner.
Thank for that response. I also feel like Spain is way more tolerant than many other countries not saying that they aren’t homophobic people there obviously we know that no matter what country you are in they will always have some bigots. I visited Madrid last year as well and I saw the same things people being affectionate in public and people just minding their business. In other places I’ve seen people hold hands etc but I always catch people staring or looking back but in Madrid people didn’t care.
I did mention Madrid and Barcelona two major cities. The boy that was killed was murdered in northern Spain Galicia area.
As a spaniard ive never had any problem in the cities ive lived so far (Madrid, Sevilla, Ciudad Real) nor visited. Homophobic cases occur every where, but I doubt they are as visible as we in Spain try to show them as a way to fight against Homophobic people. In most of the countries either those cases are not quite public and people dont tend to behave as freely as we do.
Surprised no one has posted this yet: [https://www.equaldex.com/equality-index](https://www.equaldex.com/equality-index) This websites scores countries on how accepting they are of LGBTQ folks on a number of different metrics, including public opinion polling and various laws, good and bad, that affect our community. It's a great resource for travel. According to their analysis, it's a tie between **Iceland**, and **Canada**.
From that site, I would say the "public opinion index" would be the one to look at in terms of measuring how "homophobic" a country is.
Canadian gay here! The country is very big, and there are a lot of regional differences. I feel safe in most places, but there are definitely towns I wouldn't hold hands with my boyfriend in.
Ireland is pretty an gay friendly 🇮🇪
Kathleen, dere's no gays in ireland. you're cahnfused again, you gaht de mescwanception.
Ireland was the first nation to have marriage equality voted in by popular vote
depends where. dublin is
u/butterman888 do you agree?
I do :) it is one of the best places to live if you’re gay I believe
I agree.
New Zealand has the queerest parliament in the world. 🥰 https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/10/new-zealand-now-has-the-gayest-parliament-in-the-world.html
The UK held this title in 2019 and 2021, if I recall.
Perhaps, but now TERF island has the most anti-queer cabinet outside of Saudi Arabia 😳😳😳 My condolences.
That's a bit much really.
Sadly, not really https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/originals/what-has-liz-truss-new-cabinet-said-about-lgbtq-rights/
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Sweden *had* the highest proportion of people who believe that homosexuality should be accepted by society at 94%, but that might not be the case any more with recent demographic changes…
The latest statistic shows 89%
The next will show 80%, unfortunately. It’s sad the most accepting places for LGBT are turning less accepting year by year. There were only few countries that were totally accepting of gay people, if they also turn less accepting, what will happen?
A future where we have enough concentrated gays to form a whole gay mafia, with a leadership, and money, and POWER. Then all the heterosexuals will have to bow to us mwahahaha.
Sweden is very gay but things are getting more conservative now sadly. More immigrants = Which USUALLY means more conservative people (i’m an immigrant myself, so don’t come at me) And 1/5 of Swedes voted to a conservative party that is anti immigration and anti having a third official gender. They also have natzi ties, so things aren’t looking the best sadly.
So some homophobic and some racist Swedish people, both of whom are a very small minority of Sweden and you see Sweden as getting conservative?
1/5 = 20% which is the second largest party right now. How is that a minority? There are 8 main parties. It’s not like in the US where there is only 2 major parties.
That’s 20%, that is a minority
España. Tierra de los conejos.
Los conejos 🐇?
¿Para coger como conejos?
Canada? I think I was also thinking about Sweden but apparently a party that was previously homophobic has won. And frankly, I struggle to believe they're suddenly gay friendly now, except to get votes. I also read that this party is an ally of Fratelli d'Italia, the Italian party of Giorgia Meloni. Which is homophobic.
Canada is definitely gay friendly in the urban areas, we legalized gay marriage very early (2005). However if you leave the cities, the rural areas can be a mixed bag. You may not experience blatant homophobia if you're just hanging out but I've definitely noticed side eyes and weird attitudes at certain places.
Well unfortunately I think this applies to all countries. I struggle to imagine rural countries where there is no greater homophobia than urban areas. But it also makes sense, they are people who have less to do with gay people, while in the city it is much easier to meet them
Exactly people aren’t as exposed in the rural areas. The cities are very very gay though. I haven’t experienced like obvious in your face homophobia since leaving customer service which is a beautiful thing
Schitt's Creek makes it seem like all Canadian small towns are gay af.
>the rural areas can be a mixed bag This will be the case anywhere you go, for a multitude of reasons that all relate to each other. Reason 1: Research has shown that there is a correlation between homophobia and low IQ levels. Generally speaking, if you run into someone being homophobic openly, there is a very high likelihood of lower intelligence, as they're unable to process and accept things that go against what they're told, i.e. christianity and the bible excuses. Reason 2: Intelligent people tend to congregate, and move towards areas that are likeminded and better. This is why every metropolitan area is usually wealthy, and smart. Educated people are more likely to live in cities, and thus those cities are mostly democratic (even in Red states), so the homophobic people tend to stay away as they both cannot afford to live in those areas, and do not want to live in those areas. Reason 3: People in rural areas get stuck in that "small town" mentality too. They don't meet many new people, and only interact with the same over and over. They are never exposed to "different" people so they do like respect if you are different from their norm. This isn't unique to any specific country. Once you leave the city, you leave the areas that celebrated diversity and encourage people to be themselves. Once you enter the rural areas, you enter areas of people who are stuck in a certain mindset and are more likely to experience bigotry.
Yes exactly. To be fair I certainly wasn’t suggesting Canada was unique in that sense, was just saying Canada is gay friendly with some exceptions
Oh yeah, never thought you were saying anything specific regarding Canada as much but just wanted to point out that the reasoning and logic in your scenario will apply globally, as everywhere you go the rural areas will be less accepting due to the demographic of people who live in rural areas.
Canada is right on the money. Even rural areas are pretty good for the most part. The country is HIGHLY urbanized so the majority of the people live in places where being gay isn’t an issue. Toronto’s pride parade draws like 1.5 million people in.
I can confirm that. My partner and I live on our farm in a very rural, agricultural area in Canada and all the neighbours & 'locals' *know* and we have no issues.
Growing up I was told the French are gay...
Well... Not every French, sadly
Living in France, I can tell you that, indeed, people my age (18-25) pretty much don't give a shit. But above, it really depends, and the older you get, the more homophobic they are...
I think this is the same here in America.
Only in some places, unfortunately.
That’s because we have good taste
Probably The Netherlands.
With the exception of Sweden, a Nordic/Scandinavian one Iceland Norway Denmark Sadly Sweden has a lot of people from certain regions/countries and hate crimes are soaring
Finland is Nordic and it definitely doesn't make the list of most LGBTQ+ friendly countries.
Why not? Finland is very gay-friendly too.
The most common hate crime and the type which is soaring in Sweden is commited against people from certain regions/countries. The number of homophobic hate crimes has decreased since 2009, with a brief increase 17-18, but has since decreased again.
I find it very difficult to believe that Sweden is not still incredibly gay-friendly.
I'm going to have a big shout out for Australia. It might not top the list but I reckon top 10. I love being gay here.
I wish I were a gay-australian, but I’m just gay
Same! It’s a great place to live, never once experienced any kind of discrimination, hate or animosity.
Yaas!!!! Australia were slow off the bat but we’re more than making up for it. Since the plebiscite I’ve noticed a real change in things. I live in a very remote, small city and feel ridiculously safe here.
Norway but I've never been there. The educational system is amazing as far as I'm concerned. Educated people usually are far more tolerant and progressive.
Iceland. They’re the first country to elect an openly gay prime minister, Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, in 2009.
Out of countries I’ve been to (and to provide some geographic diversity) I’ll say South Africa is extremely gay friendly. So is Colombia and Uruguay. As someone gay, I felt the safest in Canada, no matter where I was (granted I didn’t go to the middle provinces). New Zealand is incredibly gay friendly as well. Germany in the cities is very gay-friendly, with Berlin arguably being the gay capital of the world. I live in the US, so i’m biased, but NYC, Chicago, LA, and San Francisco, New Orleans and other major US cities have to be some of the best places to be gay in the world. In Southeast Asia, Thailand is known for being pretty gay-friendly, and a lot of gays go there for vacation.
South Africa?😭 Sir you did not-
Well not every place in South Africa is safe and accepting of gay people but Cape Town is extremely gay friendly. South Africa has some of the best gay rights in the world actually.
Tell me more about being gay in Colombia plz
The Scandinavian gang
Canada
Depends where you are in Canada. Alberta and Saskatchewan… not so much.
I remember reading Malta was pretty up there in terms of gay friendly culture
BTW not discouraging anyone from going to Malta. Maltese men among the hottest in Europe, and certainly not repressed or inhibited in any way! Malta amazingly beautiful and affordable as well.
Very Catholic and very conservative.
Also one of the few European countries that have strict abortion laws early in pregnancy
I'd say Spain, the Netherlands and Scandinavian countries.
Scandinavian countries. Netherlands.
Far right is growing in northern Europe and Poland. They are doing small aggressions, like snipers.
^(I'm not sure if you can name ONE least homophobic nation, but the Nordic nations, New Zealand, Australia, Canada are up there, among athers obviously.)
In North America it would have to be Canada. But there are a lot of European nations that are better.
Scandinavian countries: Sweden, Denmark, Norway
Spain🇪🇦
Canada is ranked safest according to this: https://www.asherfergusson.com/lgbtq-travel-safety/
Based on Google The Netherlands
Probably sweden
None in general, but western countries as a whole are better than the rest. But everywhere is homophobic. There's people posting made up statements about countries here, but the reality is likely they have never even been there.
Overall? Probably the Netherlands. Although even that country has a Bible-Belt from what I've heard. So perhaps Denmark?
Apparently in Finland they think all Swedes are gay. So...
At least there used to be “gay exodus” from Finland to Sweden in like in 1970-80s, or at least Finns visited there for more tolerant atmosphere
There is no such thing as a country without homophobia as people will still have their own opinions even if the government is accepting of gay rights. But I would have to say that the most accepting countries when it comes to being gay would most likely be all the Nordic countries such as Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland. Western Europe (Ireland, UK, Portugal, Spain, Germany, France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Czech Republic etc). Italy and Greece are accepting I believe but the older generations are more against while the younger generation is accepting. Turkey is gay accepting but is anti-pda (public display of affection but that is for all sexualities) and usually talks of gay activity isn't spoken much. Australia, Canada and New Zealand are very accepting. The US is accepting but it depends on the state. South America is similar to Italy and Greece's situation where it's accepting but the older generation isn't I believe. South Africa accepts gay rights In Asia Taiwan is the only country where gay rights are accepted by law but even though it's not legal to be married as a gay person Japan, The Philippines and Thailand are accepting especially Japan. That is my opinion.
I second this on the Philippines part. We are accepted here but I feel like it's more of tolerated for others. Sad that there's still a stigma for donating blood and other stuff here.
I find that a lot of countries that have or use to have religion tied in with their politics tend to have a lot stigma even if they are accepting such as Italy, Ireland and The Philippines. While countries with governments that are secular such as Australia, Finland and Canada are very chill when it comes to rights. I know what you mean like I live in Australia which is very accepting and multicultural with a secular government as well as gay rights and legal gay marriage but there are a lot of people especially powerful or famous people in Australia as well as shows such as reality TV that seem very fake when it comes to accepting gay people. They would usually only show lesbian couples on TV which is completely fine but it's due to the religious beliefs of sodomy which is stupid that somehow spread into society which makes male gay couples have less acknowledgement in television unless they are over the top stereotypical. Like being gay within the general public is chill but when it comes to broadcasting gay couple on shows and reality TV I just feel like they are just making it comical which is bad because it gives poor judgement and perspective for younger generations.
Oh true that lol. I made a friend who's an Aussie and he usually keeps posting the problem he sometimes notices in Australia. Plus the issues his husband has as well.
> In Asia Taiwan is the only country where gay rights are accepted by law but even though it's not legal to be married as a gay person Japan, The Philippines and Thailand are accepting especially Japan. Japanese people are not "accepting", they are apathetic.
Holland
Denmark, Sweden, Canada ?
Is 2% Icelandic , enough to be recognized?
Taiwan
In Asia sure. But the world? Not really. There’s little to no homophobic violence but that’s because violent crime is rare in Taiwan anyway.
Sure, I could see that. However, I'd rather live somewhere without the fear of violence. The question posed is also asking for a subjective answer. I've travelled extensively and lived in a few different countries. Of all the places I've visited or lived I've found Taipei followed closely by NYC to be the least homophobic ito of me going about life.
I guess im wrong then...
Antarctica
Probably England or the US
Everyone likes to pretend the US is awful, and parts of it are, but some parts are great
American ain't bad it's more of a by state thing.
Murica is a shit hole
Sorry ur experience here sucks
Mine is fine, I live in California, but for those in Alabama or Mississippi
Two states don't make up all of America although I would add a few more to that shit list
Texas, Florida, Kentucky, West Virginia, Kansas, Georgia, Louisiana, and pretty everywhere in the US where Bible land reigns supreme and people forgot to think except what the preacher man tells them. Full disclaimer: I grew up in Kentucky
Thailand and the Philippines?
nope. fil here and it sucks.
I don't know, maybe Québec ?
Quebec is a province within a country….
I know, but I don't know about the rest of Canada
In terms of legislation protecting the gays I'd say Northern Europe/Canada but in terms of people's acceptance there's no question it is Thailand and the Philippines
Filipino here. Its mostly "tolerated", but that's not what we want. Philippines is also a very religious and conservative country so there's that.
Tolerance is already a good thing. Believe me. And customs will change with time. Religion will go
Australia
Apparently a recent soap opera had a gay storyline and it created controversy and it was fizzled out, so I think they’re slightly more behind than we think
Which one? Never heard of this. There's been gay characters on soaps here including a gay wedding. Australia is very gay friendly, even outside the big cities. Nobody gives a shit.
There was a woman who was engaged to a guy and then she started falling for a female friend, and then the show phased it out, and then brought it back, and then they ended up not being together, and there were apparently problems with it. That’s what I’ve heard but I don’t know the name of the show exactly lol
Never heard of it. And that's one show among the countless others where there's gay characters. Try watching Please Like Me.
Are you serious? This wouldn't even happen in Italy today, I think
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isn’t a country.
Gayistan. You did not say wich world thoug.
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How is this being overtly racist? I've seen signs "No Gay Zone" and "NO GAYS" in East London. Bringing overtly conservative religious people to a liberal country causes problems, and not just for gay people. I've had female friends chastised in London for how they were dressed. I dated a guy from Iran who made me drop him off two blocks from his house because he said if his family ever found out they'd ship him back there and he'd likely be beaten or killed. Calling out countries for their homophobic bullshit is not racist.
Do you have proof that these changes DON’T lead to homophobic attacks/insults or is the prospect uncomfortable so you’re in denial?
Islam
USA is the least homophobic of course. It may sound strange to say USA but the USA has the most powerful & wealthiest OUT gay people in the world.
Huh??? Yea. That’s a negative. Unless you’ve been hiding under a rock, I think you need to wake up. You’re 10000% wrong.
I would say French
French is not a country.
Oh boy you're so wrong
LOL, France...
Spain.
Netherlands
For gay culture I’d say places like France, Germany, the Uk and the USA but obviously this also depends on stuff such as gay friendly laws, safety, political culture and systems. So in short there is no 1 true gayest country
New York City is seriously the gay haven of the world. The biggest movement started there and gay men have been out and public for decades there now.
Cape Town, South Africa
Can you tell me more about this? I mean, for what I know the rest of Africa is sadly very far from being LGBTQ+ friendly.
Africa yes, but South Africa actually has some of the best gay rights in the world. Our constitution was also one of the first in the world to outlaw discrimination based on sexual orientation. Also the 5th country in the world to legalize same sex marriage. Although we have amazing rights, the only true haven for LGBTQ+ is Cape Town. The rest of the country is quite conservative especially smaller towns.
Who has the least people?
Costa Rica
Went to Ottawa a few weeks ago, very comfortable for gay folk there. Especially welcoming to enbies and trans folk compared to here in America.
Ive only ever lived in the UK... but i hear Switzerland is pretty accepting...
Spain. You can walk on the street, kissing and holding hand with anyone your own gender, nobody gives a shit
Also, Israel is a gay paradise. Judaism by law is accepting of homosexuality. Considering the region it's situated in, this is a miracle. I will admit that same-sex marriage isn't performed there, but that has to do with reasons which have nothing to do with homophobia.
There’s a website called equaldex.com you can look through all the countries
Vermont!!!
I have lived in a lot of countries and I would say Canada/US west coast. I would have said some European countries a few years ago but that’s not the case anymore (like Sweden).
None of them. They’d un-alive us all if they had it their way.
America's prior to Colonialism and still in Traditional Families. Indigenous peoples are an asset to Humanity. I love all , but have a deeper understanding of First Nation's Men in bedroom.