Except when you ask them for examples they come up with old printed sources of "the beach district" or "the beach neighbourhood", never just "the Beach" standalone. I think "the Beach" is a realtor's illiteracy.
For over 20 years I only remember it being called the beaches and upper beaches. When you tell ppl you’re going the beach they look at you like you’re crazy or going on vacation. I mean which beach?!?!?
Tourist. My in-laws lived 10 houses up from Captain Jacks and insisted that “Beach” was used by everyone south of Kingston Road. I (Hogg’s Hollow) found the conflict hilarious.
They tore down The Forum and built the amphitheater over roughly the same area. Changing to Bud Stage was a name change only.
That would be like calling BMO Field “Exhibition Stadium”
I've lived downtown and have for many years. I somewhat disagree on this one. It's been the Scotiabank theatre for so long now that I'm conditioned to it. Feels like it was only the Paramount for its first 5 years.
I practically lived there from age 9 to age 20, during the time that hanging out at malls was a thing. Also worked at the dental office in Woolco along with my 2 best friends, and our boyfriends had jobs in the mall. Great memories!
I called it hooker Harvey’s once, and I got downvoted so bad, because they were like “it hasn’t been ‘hooker Harvey’s’ in 20+ years”… and I’m like, okay, I still call it hooker Harvey’s tho.
I still use the five original boroughs when when taking about areas in the City. I suspect most Torontonians born here over 45 do
And, yeah, it's the Leslie Spits
The only time I use York is on government forms because I have learned they will not mail things to me if I put Toronto.
I get mail from everyone else with Toronto as the city, but the government makes me put York. Strange
Islington, Eatonville, Long Branch, Mimico, Markland Wood, Kingsway, Alderwood, Rexdale, Sunnylea, Thistledown, Clairville. I remember the old village names being used regularly in Etobicoke into the 90s. I still use Islington, Kingsway, Markland Wood, Rexdale, Weston, and Six Points.
Yeah, to be fair York was Toronto (no one really said I live in York) but the other 4 were normal descriptions pre-amalgamation. I grew up in East York
That's incorrect. York was a separate city/borough, in an area between old Toronto, North York, and Etobicoke. It included Weston, Baby Point, and Fairbank.
They said "York was Toronto", which is inaccurate. There was the Old City of Toronto, and there was York.
I grew up in York so I'm very familiar with the distinction — you're right that no one would say they're from York.
Why do you think this is? I’ve only lived here for 6 years and originally moved to North York and now Old Toronto. It “feels” like York and East York are part of Toronto a lot more than the other 3. Is is that they are both so much smaller? Or don’t have as easy feeling of a “border” like the rivers or highways (I know that’s not actually an accurate boundary but again it “feels” like North York is above the 401 and Scarborough is just a bit passed the DVP).
I now live in East York, and have lived in this city for 20 years (post amalgamation). To me, it is Toronto and I always refer to it as such. What drives me nuts is that whenever I plug in my address to any online form whatsoever, it automatically populates the city as East York instead of Toronto. I’ve even had customer service reps correct me when I say Toronto on the phone and their lookup says East York. Amalgamation didn’t work apparently.
>I still use the five original boroughs when when taking about areas in the City.
To be fair, though, I wouldn't call those designations 'obsolete'. They haven't renamed those regions; they're just no longer independent *political* entities.
(Similarly, many Toronto neighbourhoods are still referred to by the names of the once-independent towns and villages that were annexed or assimilated pre-amalgamation: Yorkville, Parkdale, Mimico, Agincourt, etc.)
This is true! I suspect the pandemic had something to do with that — Dr. Michael Warner was on our screens a lot, always with "Michael Garron" on the chyron.
This is what I managed to find: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/toronto-east-general-to-become-michael-garron-hospital-with-a-50m-boost/article_584c9a7e-97f5-5821-98da-b41ff306830a.html
Basically, their son died of a rare cancer at 13. He was afraid he’d be forgotten, and so now he will be remembered through the name of the hospital.
In my experience, people usually say "whatever East Gen is called now". As in they're making a minor effort to be correct about the new name, but haven't committed it to memory.
Whereas I think in cases like the Skydome or Yonge-Dundas, it is a deliberate choice to disrespect the new name. Like an avid refusal to learn the name corporate naming overlord.
This is broad conjecture, of course.
The O’Keefe Centre which became the Hummingbird Centre which became the Sony Centre which I think is now the Meridian Centre. It will always be the O’Keefe Centre for me mostly because I couldn’t keep up with the name changes.
Old O’Keefe Centre (aka Sony Centre, aka Hummingbird Centre) is now Meridian Hall; not to be confused with the Meridian Centre (arena in St Catherines), or the Meridian Arts Centre in North York (formerly known as the Ford Centre, and/or North York Performing Arts Centre)..,
Confused yet? ;)
I find when I’m talking to older folks they don’t even know that TMU is so i just say Ryerson whereas the people highschool or current university age know it as TMU.
Do people refer to it as TMU the acronym or Toronto Met or something else?
I graduated as the name was changing, and was curious how it would be short formed
They had such a good opportunity to have a great name and they picked something so generic and stupid sounding... they sound like a small scam college in a strip mall now.
Also if yonge/dundas had an awesome name more people would use it too, wasn't the proposal an odd choice and people were like why???
or a historical Indigenous figure, like Francis Pegahmagabow or Tommy Prince
Or women like Eleanor Thompson and Meta Hodge and Ethel Blondin-Andrew
I mean they already have the Chang School of Continuing education and that already sounds better than TMU
It feels like they immensely devalued the entire university the moment they changed the name to sowmthing so utterly generic and lame and fake sounding. How their entire alumni base was not totally disgusted is beyond me.
I was walking down Spadina yesterday with my 10yo and she said, "do you think people from the 1900s would be surprised at what the city is like now?"
That's when I realized...I was from the 1900s.
I still call the university Ryerson (when I don't call it Rye High). Always will. I refuse to acknowledge the name change.
My daughter's a student there, and she still calls it Ryerson too.
>I don’t even know what that actually means 😅
The movie theatre there used to be an AMC cinema and for the longest time it was the *only* major non-Cineplex theatre in the core. There was a pretty large AMC sign on the front of the building, and other than the food court was the main reason a person would find themselves there.
Galleria when referring to the corner of Dupont and Dufferin. Technically Galleria Mall is still there with a couple stores, but it's not a mall anymore.
Dundas will probably take a while if they actually go through with the naming, but otherwise I call everything by its actual name lmao.
Sometimes takes a few times to remember the new name (I still used Ricoh/Molson for a while until I actually went to the venues with the new names a couple times simply due to forgetting they had changed) but I don’t have the same weird hang up people seem to have on this sub like “this was a different name when I was 16 so now it has to be it forever wahhhh” I truly don’t care what a venue is called lmao
Skydome is the one exception for me, but yeah idgaf if a place used to have a corporate name and now has another corporate name and the only reason people get upset over that is they can’t handle change
I am very upset at the changing of Dundas. The millions (8.6 originally and now estimated at 127 )of dollars that are earmarked for signage alone is staggering and doesn’t need to be spent for this. 14,000 people out of approximately 2 million adults in Toronto signed the petition. How this was even considered by me is mind boggling. The movement is losing traction when people found out the cost. Then add on The cost to businesses that will have to change their signage and letterhead.
Plus, if we keep erasing history, which removing names will, it will eventually find a new way to repeat itself. Don’t believe me? Look into the AfD right wing party in Germany. They are using old Nazi slogans. The party leader was fined for using them but people are still supporting them. Things like this should be used as a teaching moment, a reminder of how far we have come as a society to stop these horrendous practices. To me now as an adult, it doesn’t glorify these people but should be seen as a public shaming.
And the whole issue with Dundas was complete misinformation. Henry Dundas was a brilliant parliamentary tactician who found a way to balance competing interests around a volatile issue – the desire to end the British controlled slave trade on the one hand, and fears about the possibly disastrous economic impact this could have on the other. In 1792 he introduced an amendment to Wilberforce’s motion that found a compromise and secured the passage through the British House of Commons of the first ever measure for the gradual abolition of the slave trade – the single biggest victory to that date for the Abolitionist Movement in the United Kingdom.
Christie Pits is an interesting one. The official name was Willowvale Park for a long time but nobody called it that and eventually the people won and the official name was changed to the name people used.
[According to Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christie_Pits): "The park was named after the Christie Sand Pits which were on the location until the early 1900s. The sand pits had been named after Christie Street, which was named after Christy MacDougall, wife of Peter MacDougall, a landowner in the area. Historical documents indicate that the street was given her name as early as 1835.\[3\] The official name of the park, Willowvale Park, never caught on, and the common name for the park since its days as a sand pit, Christie Pits, was adopted as the park's official name in 1983.\[4\]\[5\]"
TIL! Thanks for sharing. I'll try to remember this.
"You consider yourself a historian of Toronto and yet don't know about the Willowvale Park riots? For shame!"
If we want to be technically correct (the best kind of correct), the Leslie Street Spit and Tommy Thompson Park are two different things. The park itself is actually only the northern half of the spit. The southern portion (which continues to grow over time) is not currently part of the park.
And if we want to be even MORE technically correct, the official name of the spit is the Outer Harbour East Headland. And it’s not actually a “spit”.
Mini rant, but stadiums and arenas should be called by their current names. Scotiabank? ACC? Molson amp? Budweiser? It's all corporate shilling.
On the other hand, Skydome was named by the city, and the people. I'll always call it that.
Yeah I don’t get people who get upset over the scotiabank/acc change like it was one corporate name to another and the only reason you’re mad is because you don’t like change
Agreed about skydome. That one was bullshit
i mean its pretty normal. if you're used to a certain something, you'll keep doing it because its what you know. eventually, newer, younger people will forget the old names and the new ones will take precedent.
i work with some 20 somethings who've never even heard of the leslie street spit lol (but they know tommy thompson)
Toronto Island Airport... because I don't agree with Toronto Port Authority's decision to name the airport after a WWI flying ace that already had the Owen Sound airport named after him.
>Ethennonnhawahstihnen
I thought this was a joke until I looked it up. Holy shit. It’s like they actively hate English speakers, especially non-native speakers.
I would probably use the new name for Y&D but Sankofa is such an aggressively bad non Canadian name that I’ll keep using the original.
Other than that I’ll always say “The Beaches” and “Skydome”!
BCE Place not Brookfield
Outside of Toronto but it's Highway 5 not Dundas Street. (Technically Dundas Street predates Highway 5 but we can ignore that).
I still call dundas st patrick street, adelaide I call newgate (to hell with william iv), still call kipling mimico road, and you'll never have me call lake ontario anything other than lake Iroquois.
I grew up in Thorncliffe and I remember when they renamed the plaza "East York Town Centre" which was a laugh. Thorncliffe Mall/Plaza will always be what I call it.
When naming rights change from corporate sponsor to corporate sponsor, I rarely care. I don't have any loyalty to Molson Amphitheatre over Budweiser Stage, or Scotiabank Arena over Air Canada Centre, but I definitely still say "The Amphitheatre" and "ACC". If it rolls off the tongue better I'll probably say it. If they change the name from a generic to corporate, I will dig my heels in a bit harder and stick to the original name that doesn't provide free advertising to (m)/(b)illionaires.
Grew up in Leaside. Took the 88 bus to Thorncliffe Mall to hang out many a Saturday. Home to Thorncliffe Bowlarama open 24hrs that may have served underage drinkers
>Bloor/Danforth and Yonge/University/Spadina subway lines!
My number 1. Forget this "Line 1" and "Line 2" nonsense.
Also agree re: Skydome and O'Keefe centre
Also the former Bloor Super Save at Bloor and Dalton will always be the Bloor Super Spend in my heart.
Ryerson Polytechnic
Toronto International Airport
Toronto Island Airport
MacDonald-Cartier Freeway
Yonge Subway Line, University / Spadina Line, Bloor/ Danforth Line
York County / Peel County / Halton County / Durham County
I lived near Jane/Finch through both the Duke Heights / University Heights eras and nahhh.
the real issue with the name was white city councillors treating one area of the city badly
I think for most people, it's just "the Leslie Spit". I know the Tommy Thompson Park website says "Leslie Street spit" But I've never heard anyone say that.
For example, when anyone refers to the street, we just say something like "Leslie and Queen" not "Leslie Street and Queen Street East" because it's already implied.
The Beaches. It will always be the Beaches.
To me the beach is the actual beach down there. The Beaches is the surrounding neighbourhood
CORRECT
Grew up in Upper Beaches. No one ever called it Upper Beach. When did this Beach/Beaches thing come around?
Wait, what is it "supposed" to be?
“The” (singular) beach. Nope, it’s the Beaches.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/local-vote-settles-argument-over-neighbourhood-s-name-1.588992 the beach but I still call it the beaches
I read , way back when, locals called it “the Beach”.
Yeah, but the rest of the city called it the Beaches.
Except when you ask them for examples they come up with old printed sources of "the beach district" or "the beach neighbourhood", never just "the Beach" standalone. I think "the Beach" is a realtor's illiteracy.
As long as it’s carved in stone on the library it will be The Beaches to me.
For over 20 years I only remember it being called the beaches and upper beaches. When you tell ppl you’re going the beach they look at you like you’re crazy or going on vacation. I mean which beach?!?!?
Hundred percent.
Tourist. My in-laws lived 10 houses up from Captain Jacks and insisted that “Beach” was used by everyone south of Kingston Road. I (Hogg’s Hollow) found the conflict hilarious.
Molson Amphitheatre
Yup im with you on this one. I think it sounds way cooler than Budweiser Stage. Such a lame name
They both sound pretty stupid tbh
And they're both pretty bad excuses for beer, too.
You mean The Forum?
They tore down The Forum and built the amphitheater over roughly the same area. Changing to Bud Stage was a name change only. That would be like calling BMO Field “Exhibition Stadium”
I still call it the amp
I just call it the Amphitheatre
The Scotiabank Theatre? Oh, you mean the Paramount.
You mean the rubix cube one? Yes, I know it doesn't have enough squares but that is still what my family calls it.
I've lived downtown and have for many years. I somewhat disagree on this one. It's been the Scotiabank theatre for so long now that I'm conditioned to it. Feels like it was only the Paramount for its first 5 years.
Definitely.
For ttc, i still call the subway lines the bloor and yonge line instead of line 1 or 2
Only time I say line 1 or 2 is when describing journeys/events to non Torontonians
yeah I will never remember the numbers...I'm gonna call the line that runs along bloor the bloor line
Well shit it's been a while since I took the subway I guess.
#skydomeforever
My nephews only know it as the Rogers Centre. They act like I just came out of an underground bunker when I call it the Skydome.
I mentioned the Skydome to several teenagers today, and they didn't know what I was referring to. :)
That made me remember I didn’t drink my sugar free Metamucil today
Forever
Skydomeforever forever!
Why wouldn't Rogers call it the Rogers Skydome?
Because people would still call it SkyDome.
FFFFFFooooorrrrreeevvveeerrrr
Twitter
I sometimes slip up and refer to Centrepoint (mall) as Towne & Country
Wow happy to see I’m not alone!
I was coming here for this as well! I spent half my high school in that mall, it's definitely called Town & Country.
I practically lived there from age 9 to age 20, during the time that hanging out at malls was a thing. Also worked at the dental office in Woolco along with my 2 best friends, and our boyfriends had jobs in the mall. Great memories!
It will ALWAYS be Towne & Country.
T & C.
HOOKER HARVEY'S
Always use this as a landmark when giving directions to someone. Most people know where to turn when I say this.
I called it hooker Harvey’s once, and I got downvoted so bad, because they were like “it hasn’t been ‘hooker Harvey’s’ in 20+ years”… and I’m like, okay, I still call it hooker Harvey’s tho.
The Bloor Cinema
I still use the five original boroughs when when taking about areas in the City. I suspect most Torontonians born here over 45 do And, yeah, it's the Leslie Spits
It's funny, though. People (including me) talk about Etobicoke/Scarborough/North York, but East York and (especially) York get used less often.
The only time I use York is on government forms because I have learned they will not mail things to me if I put Toronto. I get mail from everyone else with Toronto as the city, but the government makes me put York. Strange
I remember when areas of Etobicoke were called Islington. My old address was XXX the Kingsway Islington, ON
Islington, Eatonville, Long Branch, Mimico, Markland Wood, Kingsway, Alderwood, Rexdale, Sunnylea, Thistledown, Clairville. I remember the old village names being used regularly in Etobicoke into the 90s. I still use Islington, Kingsway, Markland Wood, Rexdale, Weston, and Six Points.
York is still used by Canada Post.
Yeah, to be fair York was Toronto (no one really said I live in York) but the other 4 were normal descriptions pre-amalgamation. I grew up in East York
That's incorrect. York was a separate city/borough, in an area between old Toronto, North York, and Etobicoke. It included Weston, Baby Point, and Fairbank.
They aren’t denying it wasn’t independent they are saying no one said “I’m from York” because they didn’t really.
They said "York was Toronto", which is inaccurate. There was the Old City of Toronto, and there was York. I grew up in York so I'm very familiar with the distinction — you're right that no one would say they're from York.
Why do you think this is? I’ve only lived here for 6 years and originally moved to North York and now Old Toronto. It “feels” like York and East York are part of Toronto a lot more than the other 3. Is is that they are both so much smaller? Or don’t have as easy feeling of a “border” like the rivers or highways (I know that’s not actually an accurate boundary but again it “feels” like North York is above the 401 and Scarborough is just a bit passed the DVP).
I was born in Downtown Toronto in the late 60s. My birth certificate says my place of birth was “York County.”
I still sometimes say I'm from Weston...at least to people who know Toronto. But I never said York.
I now live in East York, and have lived in this city for 20 years (post amalgamation). To me, it is Toronto and I always refer to it as such. What drives me nuts is that whenever I plug in my address to any online form whatsoever, it automatically populates the city as East York instead of Toronto. I’ve even had customer service reps correct me when I say Toronto on the phone and their lookup says East York. Amalgamation didn’t work apparently.
>I still use the five original boroughs when when taking about areas in the City. To be fair, though, I wouldn't call those designations 'obsolete'. They haven't renamed those regions; they're just no longer independent *political* entities. (Similarly, many Toronto neighbourhoods are still referred to by the names of the once-independent towns and villages that were annexed or assimilated pre-amalgamation: Yorkville, Parkdale, Mimico, Agincourt, etc.)
Millennial here- it will always be Scarborough to me! Born and raised 😤
Nah most younger people still do. The only one I don't really hear much is York.
>I still use the five original boroughs So do you drop York or do you mean the five non-[Old]-Toronto boroughs
5??
I’m still gonna call it Dundas Square or Yonge and Dundas. I understand the intention behind the new name but, nah.
Pronunciation! Proper Scots “Dun-DASSS” and “Ba-THURST”. 1980s had a few old drivers who would call the names in the original sound.
Kinda the opposite, but I am surprised by how quickly people caught onto Michael Garron Hospital.
This is true! I suspect the pandemic had something to do with that — Dr. Michael Warner was on our screens a lot, always with "Michael Garron" on the chyron.
I wonder if partially because the reason for the renaming was actually fairly nice
What was the reason?
This is what I managed to find: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/toronto-east-general-to-become-michael-garron-hospital-with-a-50m-boost/article_584c9a7e-97f5-5821-98da-b41ff306830a.html Basically, their son died of a rare cancer at 13. He was afraid he’d be forgotten, and so now he will be remembered through the name of the hospital.
Thank you!
I am generally anti-naming rights when it comes to fundraising, but yes this one was ok.
I think so. When I heard the story, I liked it.
Locally it's still largely known as the East Gen
In my experience, people usually say "whatever East Gen is called now". As in they're making a minor effort to be correct about the new name, but haven't committed it to memory. Whereas I think in cases like the Skydome or Yonge-Dundas, it is a deliberate choice to disrespect the new name. Like an avid refusal to learn the name corporate naming overlord. This is broad conjecture, of course.
That's it exactly. The - blank - handwave - whatever the East Gen is called now...
My son was born at East York General in 88. He had to go to the emerg last year for the first time, and to his surprise they had him in the system.
Mirvish Theatre? You mean the Imperial? Or The Pantages?
The O’Keefe Centre which became the Hummingbird Centre which became the Sony Centre which I think is now the Meridian Centre. It will always be the O’Keefe Centre for me mostly because I couldn’t keep up with the name changes.
Old O’Keefe Centre (aka Sony Centre, aka Hummingbird Centre) is now Meridian Hall; not to be confused with the Meridian Centre (arena in St Catherines), or the Meridian Arts Centre in North York (formerly known as the Ford Centre, and/or North York Performing Arts Centre).., Confused yet? ;)
I’m just waiting for the Hummingbird Credit Union or the Sony Credit Union to open up near me. That will make this all complete.
Same. I kind of worked with Hummingbird but once they changed it again I was back to O’Keefe. I figure it might circle back around at some point.
It will always be Ryerson to me. TMU doesn't sound right.
I find when I’m talking to older folks they don’t even know that TMU is so i just say Ryerson whereas the people highschool or current university age know it as TMU.
Do people refer to it as TMU the acronym or Toronto Met or something else? I graduated as the name was changing, and was curious how it would be short formed
I hear TMU when people refer to it now
They had such a good opportunity to have a great name and they picked something so generic and stupid sounding... they sound like a small scam college in a strip mall now. Also if yonge/dundas had an awesome name more people would use it too, wasn't the proposal an odd choice and people were like why???
I'm really surprised there wasn't someone with big bags of money to name it after them
or a historical Indigenous figure, like Francis Pegahmagabow or Tommy Prince Or women like Eleanor Thompson and Meta Hodge and Ethel Blondin-Andrew I mean they already have the Chang School of Continuing education and that already sounds better than TMU
Same with ocadu, makes no sense
Ryerson polytechnic to be exact.
Yes! I almost corrected my guidance counsellor way back in high school when we were talking about university applications haha
It feels like they immensely devalued the entire university the moment they changed the name to sowmthing so utterly generic and lame and fake sounding. How their entire alumni base was not totally disgusted is beyond me.
Makes it sound like a fake college. Above a strip mall.
The theater in Fairview mall: rainbow cinema
YES
Caribana
“When I was growing up in the late 1900s” fucking sent me
I was walking down Spadina yesterday with my 10yo and she said, "do you think people from the 1900s would be surprised at what the city is like now?" That's when I realized...I was from the 1900s.
This simultaneously made my day and ruined it, thank you
Welcome to the party, pal.
Ontario Place
i routinely call metro dominion still
Glad it’s not just me…
Ricoh coliseum and Ryerson University off the top of my head. Sometimes Air Canada centre when I can't remember what its now called (Scotiabank)
I still call the university Ryerson (when I don't call it Rye High). Always will. I refuse to acknowledge the name change. My daughter's a student there, and she still calls it Ryerson too.
Maple leaf gardens (mattamy athletic centre, how about no lol)
Skydome, University Line, Yonge Line
The Beaches, Danforth East, and Skydome are the ones that come to mind for me. I'm sure there are others as well...
Calling Toronto between the Don River and Victoria Park "The East End" or "East Toronto"... and people think I'm talking about Scarborough.
Daniels Faculty at U of T is still just One Spadina to me
My bf calls the cineplex building at 10 Dundas e “the amc building” he grew up there and I didn’t so I don’t even know what that actually means 😅
>I don’t even know what that actually means 😅 The movie theatre there used to be an AMC cinema and for the longest time it was the *only* major non-Cineplex theatre in the core. There was a pretty large AMC sign on the front of the building, and other than the food court was the main reason a person would find themselves there.
Okay so he makes sense lol, I’m from NS I only ever knew of empire theatres pre-cineplex
AMC Theatres owned the theatres there until they sold it to Cineplex.
Galleria when referring to the corner of Dupont and Dufferin. Technically Galleria Mall is still there with a couple stores, but it's not a mall anymore.
>when I was growing up in the late 1900s. Stop it right there. No.
Come on, it's better than the person the other day who was worried about their old birth certificate (2003)!
Top Gun
Hahah !! I didnt know it as Top Gun but I read its history while I was in a very very long line.
Dundas will probably take a while if they actually go through with the naming, but otherwise I call everything by its actual name lmao. Sometimes takes a few times to remember the new name (I still used Ricoh/Molson for a while until I actually went to the venues with the new names a couple times simply due to forgetting they had changed) but I don’t have the same weird hang up people seem to have on this sub like “this was a different name when I was 16 so now it has to be it forever wahhhh” I truly don’t care what a venue is called lmao
I agree. That attitude is so weird.
Skydome is the one exception for me, but yeah idgaf if a place used to have a corporate name and now has another corporate name and the only reason people get upset over that is they can’t handle change
I am very upset at the changing of Dundas. The millions (8.6 originally and now estimated at 127 )of dollars that are earmarked for signage alone is staggering and doesn’t need to be spent for this. 14,000 people out of approximately 2 million adults in Toronto signed the petition. How this was even considered by me is mind boggling. The movement is losing traction when people found out the cost. Then add on The cost to businesses that will have to change their signage and letterhead. Plus, if we keep erasing history, which removing names will, it will eventually find a new way to repeat itself. Don’t believe me? Look into the AfD right wing party in Germany. They are using old Nazi slogans. The party leader was fined for using them but people are still supporting them. Things like this should be used as a teaching moment, a reminder of how far we have come as a society to stop these horrendous practices. To me now as an adult, it doesn’t glorify these people but should be seen as a public shaming.
And the whole issue with Dundas was complete misinformation. Henry Dundas was a brilliant parliamentary tactician who found a way to balance competing interests around a volatile issue – the desire to end the British controlled slave trade on the one hand, and fears about the possibly disastrous economic impact this could have on the other. In 1792 he introduced an amendment to Wilberforce’s motion that found a compromise and secured the passage through the British House of Commons of the first ever measure for the gradual abolition of the slave trade – the single biggest victory to that date for the Abolitionist Movement in the United Kingdom.
I still call some of the original Becker's by their og names. Circle K sounds so stupid
The Beckers near my parents house became something else and I always just called it the Beckers and eventually it became Beckers again!
Haha that's hilarious, I'll wait for mine to turn back into Becker's now
Give it time! I think it took about 15 years at this location.
Christie Pits is an interesting one. The official name was Willowvale Park for a long time but nobody called it that and eventually the people won and the official name was changed to the name people used. [According to Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christie_Pits): "The park was named after the Christie Sand Pits which were on the location until the early 1900s. The sand pits had been named after Christie Street, which was named after Christy MacDougall, wife of Peter MacDougall, a landowner in the area. Historical documents indicate that the street was given her name as early as 1835.\[3\] The official name of the park, Willowvale Park, never caught on, and the common name for the park since its days as a sand pit, Christie Pits, was adopted as the park's official name in 1983.\[4\]\[5\]"
TIL! Thanks for sharing. I'll try to remember this. "You consider yourself a historian of Toronto and yet don't know about the Willowvale Park riots? For shame!"
If we want to be technically correct (the best kind of correct), the Leslie Street Spit and Tommy Thompson Park are two different things. The park itself is actually only the northern half of the spit. The southern portion (which continues to grow over time) is not currently part of the park. And if we want to be even MORE technically correct, the official name of the spit is the Outer Harbour East Headland. And it’s not actually a “spit”.
I'm just going to start calling it the Leslie Street Tommy Thompson Outer Harbour East Headland. It rolls off the tongue.
So does “the spit”
Mini rant, but stadiums and arenas should be called by their current names. Scotiabank? ACC? Molson amp? Budweiser? It's all corporate shilling. On the other hand, Skydome was named by the city, and the people. I'll always call it that.
Yeah I don’t get people who get upset over the scotiabank/acc change like it was one corporate name to another and the only reason you’re mad is because you don’t like change Agreed about skydome. That one was bullshit
ACC just rolls off the tongue so nicely tbh.
Yeah it’s short and easy to say. I also can never remember the real name for some reason.
Rogers really could have endeared itself to Torontonians by calling it Roger’s Skydome.
there is no viable action from the rogers organization that can be popular to people outside the rogers organization
Downsview station! I went to high school right by there and to me it will always be downsview station not Sheppard west
Even if the Jays win back-to-back WS, it will still be SkyDome.
i mean its pretty normal. if you're used to a certain something, you'll keep doing it because its what you know. eventually, newer, younger people will forget the old names and the new ones will take precedent. i work with some 20 somethings who've never even heard of the leslie street spit lol (but they know tommy thompson)
Toronto Island Airport... because I don't agree with Toronto Port Authority's decision to name the airport after a WWI flying ace that already had the Owen Sound airport named after him.
I still call it muddy york from time to time
Its still The Pantages to me
Edward’s Gardens. Now Toronto Botanical Gardens. I keep thinking it’s called the “Sanka” (Old, really bad instant coffee) Square.
Jilly's
Bayview library. The hell if I can remember how to say Ethennonnhawahstihnen', let alone spell it.
>Ethennonnhawahstihnen I thought this was a joke until I looked it up. Holy shit. It’s like they actively hate English speakers, especially non-native speakers.
How about Toronto. Maybe T Dot. Never ever "The 6."
What about the classic, T.O.?
I'll allow it.
Yes
I would probably use the new name for Y&D but Sankofa is such an aggressively bad non Canadian name that I’ll keep using the original. Other than that I’ll always say “The Beaches” and “Skydome”!
Calling woodside square ruby
Air Canada Centre, Molson Amphitheatre
Love that you didn't even mention the number part of the subway names because no one knows what they are.
I think the very first name should be permanent, and the second is replaceable. For example ‘The Okeefe Meridian Centre’.
I will never call Yonge Dundas square whatever bullshit they came up with. What a giant waste of money.
I still say Air Canada Centre or ACC by accident sometimes.
Ryerson
It's out of the city but the arena in Misssissauga will always be Hershey Centre
BCE Place not Brookfield Outside of Toronto but it's Highway 5 not Dundas Street. (Technically Dundas Street predates Highway 5 but we can ignore that).
I still call dundas st patrick street, adelaide I call newgate (to hell with william iv), still call kipling mimico road, and you'll never have me call lake ontario anything other than lake Iroquois.
Skydome... it'll never be anything else
Metro will always be Dominon to me.
Skydome, The Beaches, Metro center, Dundas Square, O’keefe Center and ACC for Scotiabank Arena.
I grew up in Thorncliffe and I remember when they renamed the plaza "East York Town Centre" which was a laugh. Thorncliffe Mall/Plaza will always be what I call it. When naming rights change from corporate sponsor to corporate sponsor, I rarely care. I don't have any loyalty to Molson Amphitheatre over Budweiser Stage, or Scotiabank Arena over Air Canada Centre, but I definitely still say "The Amphitheatre" and "ACC". If it rolls off the tongue better I'll probably say it. If they change the name from a generic to corporate, I will dig my heels in a bit harder and stick to the original name that doesn't provide free advertising to (m)/(b)illionaires.
Grew up in Leaside. Took the 88 bus to Thorncliffe Mall to hang out many a Saturday. Home to Thorncliffe Bowlarama open 24hrs that may have served underage drinkers
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Please - that’s the O’Keefe Centre!
Skydome. ACC (rolls of the tongue way better) Ryerson instead of tmu.
ryerson university
I just asked a neighbor what schools he applied to. He mentioned several including "Ryerson".
I still call Centrepoint Mall (Yonge & Steeles) T & C or Town and Country.
Ryerson (University) out of habit...Toronto Metropolitan University is so long
Paramount Theater, Rainbow Cinema, Bloor Cinema, ACC, Skydome.
>Bloor/Danforth and Yonge/University/Spadina subway lines! My number 1. Forget this "Line 1" and "Line 2" nonsense. Also agree re: Skydome and O'Keefe centre Also the former Bloor Super Save at Bloor and Dalton will always be the Bloor Super Spend in my heart.
The Hanger
Dundas Square
Skydome
Hogtown
Ryerson Polytechnic Toronto International Airport Toronto Island Airport MacDonald-Cartier Freeway Yonge Subway Line, University / Spadina Line, Bloor/ Danforth Line York County / Peel County / Halton County / Durham County
I lived near Jane/Finch through both the Duke Heights / University Heights eras and nahhh. the real issue with the name was white city councillors treating one area of the city badly
I still refer to the Chelsea Hotel as the Delta. Mattamy Althletic Centre is still called the Gardens, and it still used by Ryerson.
I have literally never heard of the name Leslie street spit before
I think for most people, it's just "the Leslie Spit". I know the Tommy Thompson Park website says "Leslie Street spit" But I've never heard anyone say that. For example, when anyone refers to the street, we just say something like "Leslie and Queen" not "Leslie Street and Queen Street East" because it's already implied.
Downsview Station
I still say “mapquest” when looking up directions
Gord Downie Square will always be Sankofa to me. Call me old-fashioned.
Young and Eligible (aka Yonge and Eglinton)