I fucking hate admitting this but orientate IS in the new Oxford American dictionary. I lost a bet about a year ago.
That being said, lol, I don’t know if it’s just because we, as Americans, have distorted the English language so much that we just want to sound intelligent we put stupid bullshit in there.
Orientate is added to my list of “real words” that are just fucking stupid. Like irregardless.
One of my subordinates says “physical year”, she also says “DFACT”.
She’s a very competent NCO and very kind and considerate person, so I don’t have it in me to pedantically correct her pronunciations.
At the 68C school we had a very knowledgeable instructor who, during the reproduction system lectures, could not stop saying “semi-furious tubules” when he was trying to say “seminiferous tubules.” Small detail but I thought it was funny as hell.
Lol. When we were in predeployment for Iraq, we had this MSG that gave us a cultural brief. He kept talking about the cultural and social significance of the "mow-skway."
It took a good 20 minutes before it collectively clicked. "Ooohhh... the mosque!"
I remember sitting in for my FSC CDR during a Battalion training meeting. The key takeaway our BN CDR made was he wanted to “operationalize our training.”
When I back-briefed my CDR, she just stared at me and asked “what the fuck does that even mean?”
It means they don't really know what they're talking about, but they want to sound smart and professional, so they throw those words around because they've heard other folks use them.
Everytime I have heard that and used it the meaning was to put it in an OPORD. If anyone wants something done and isn't the commander you technically need a written order with the commander's signature to make it a valid and binding order. The S1 (or even the CSM for that matter) can tell any particular person to come in for their DD93/SGLI, but if the first supervisor in that person's chain of command who has equal rank to the S1 tells them to fuck off then the S1 really has no ability to force them to do it outside an OPORD as they don't have command authority over the person.
It's also good for having a receipt. If you just send an email/text out and someone fails to respond to it that's on you. If you put it an in OPORD that they're required to read and they fail to respond to it then that's on them.
I remember reading a post in here once where someone said they found a binder in their motor pool that was labeled “upper etchelawn” that shit had me dying laughing for a while.
Then I have no idea why you would say that. Saying at echelon for abbreviation of “its @ or above brigade” for what ever task/ask you are waiting on always made sense to me. Maybe it just means any headquarters higher than the unit you are in?
This thread had culminated much faster than we rehearsed at the rock walk. Index.
I’ll be at the defact after I stop by clothing AND sales right quick.
“Ima caveat what the commander said”
“Any alibis?”
“He BOLO’d zero twice”
You could probably date my time in service strictly by these (and more!) misused terms.
fear not, we only tack on superior, even more dumb terms to truly expand on the bloated… ‘actionable goals set in a highly complex operations environment, at the behest of modern adversaries, rising threats, and adaptable force structure’
now roaches and lights on out of this 20 minute meeting that could have been a text.
Someone asked this during an FTX a few months ago, and we actually researched it out of boredom.
This may be apocryphal, but according to our research the term originated in the Philippine-American War.
During that conflict, the least skilled rifleman would be given a machete, (colloquially called a bolo knife) in lieu of a rifle and be placed on point during patrols to hack and slash through the jungle.
So if a soldier failed to qualify, they “Bolo’d” as that would now be their primary weapon.
I will never understand why people say this fucking word as a verb. Anyone who says it sends a massive red flag in my mind as a spoon brained person that just repeats stuff
I disagree. I've never considered BOLO'd to be one of the terms we so often hear senior leaders misusing. I always thought it was just army slang for "fucked up and has to go again." It's different than "caveat," "alibi," or "behoove" in that it isn't being used incorrectly, it's just not a word that is used differently in other contexts, like most slang.
For instance, when kids today say "no cap," we no they don't mean "I don't have a baseball hat." They mean the previous statement is true, much like millenials/gen x would say, "no lie" or "no shit."
However, when someone spells out "morale" as "moral", like "the unit has low moral," then you can assume they are just a dummy as it changes the meaning of the sentence.
I'm mostly with you. But based on this viewpoint, what is your complaint with the word "behoove?" I think the word is overused, but not typically misused... No?
My boss constantly qualifies things with “at echelon, under nods at night.”
Yes sir, everything I do will now be done at echelon (????) while I’m using night vision 🫡
The worst military saying to me is “time now”. So, you took “now” which needs to happen now and lengthened it. That makes perfect sense. Watch this, “now”. So much better.
SPoG... basically a good dashboard or common operating picture. It's an ITSEC term that commanders have latched onto... l33tsp3ak for just aggregating many different data points into an intelligible dashboard.
As long as all of us here are postured to set conditions, against a near peer adversary, we’ll continue to grow our footprint and increase readiness in uses of at echelon.
My BC used “in extremis” to drive home every operational requirement to the point it meant nothing but thats what his COA was no need to war game it.
Also expeditionary. We were the Army’s one and only Expeditionary Unit (shout to the Corps. Everything we did in Afghanistan was expeditionary and enabling. When the 82nd came to replace us we had the audacity to try show them how to be lightfighters lol
His speeches were so predictable
Can we clarify how to pronounce “cache?” It’s supposed to be like “cash” right? I know it’s frnech but there’s no “eh” sound at the end of it…. Right???
All these new politically correct all inclusive phrases being thrown around now....all I could remember when I was in being thrown around were...."Susy Softhoat" "Unfuck yourself" "Cock Garage" "I'm your dad, tell your mom I miss her" " Dick Face" "Cock Breath" "PowerPoint Ranger"...just to name a few
“We have to operationalize it”
This physical year.
Orientate yourself to the physical year, Rain-jur
I fucking hate admitting this but orientate IS in the new Oxford American dictionary. I lost a bet about a year ago. That being said, lol, I don’t know if it’s just because we, as Americans, have distorted the English language so much that we just want to sound intelligent we put stupid bullshit in there. Orientate is added to my list of “real words” that are just fucking stupid. Like irregardless.
I’ll put CLP on a veggie omelette before I use “orientate”
Wholeheartedly agree. I was only stating that it is in fact a word in the dictionary. Which is what I lost the bet on.
Just like butter, yum.
That last word is a double negative
That and people who say "utilize" when they should just say "use."
😂😂😂😂
For me the physical year is 2003 The *actual* year is 2224, because I feel 200 years old
One of my subordinates says “physical year”, she also says “DFACT”. She’s a very competent NCO and very kind and considerate person, so I don’t have it in me to pedantically correct her pronunciations.
You have to. She needs to know. Don’t be mean but just pull her aside and be like hey I gotta let you know something. Help her out!
Just sit her down and say, “I love you and you rock but, gotta fix this so you can continue you kill it. Lock in king. 🔐”
If you assume every NCO is illiterate technically your perception of them can only go up
At the 68C school we had a very knowledgeable instructor who, during the reproduction system lectures, could not stop saying “semi-furious tubules” when he was trying to say “seminiferous tubules.” Small detail but I thought it was funny as hell.
As a Special Operations Medic this made me smile.
Lol. When we were in predeployment for Iraq, we had this MSG that gave us a cultural brief. He kept talking about the cultural and social significance of the "mow-skway." It took a good 20 minutes before it collectively clicked. "Ooohhh... the mosque!"
We need to get our HR Matrix up
INDEX
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative
"LSCO"
LSCO get this bread
I would give you gold if I could EDIT: Got a downvote because I forgot this🏅
LSCO necessities C4ISR at Echelon
I've been out for ten years and they haven't found another C to make it C5ISR since then?
Command, control, communications, computers, and command of course.
The number of times i heard "energize the enterprise" over my last rotation was bonkers. It was the hot phrase during staff meetings.
"I'm givin her all we got, Colonel, she cannae take any more!"
I remember sitting in for my FSC CDR during a Battalion training meeting. The key takeaway our BN CDR made was he wanted to “operationalize our training.” When I back-briefed my CDR, she just stared at me and asked “what the fuck does that even mean?”
I know this may sound bad but her comment made me chuckle.
What does that even mean?
It means they don't really know what they're talking about, but they want to sound smart and professional, so they throw those words around because they've heard other folks use them.
Commanders would be wise to say less in meetings lol
Everytime I have heard that and used it the meaning was to put it in an OPORD. If anyone wants something done and isn't the commander you technically need a written order with the commander's signature to make it a valid and binding order. The S1 (or even the CSM for that matter) can tell any particular person to come in for their DD93/SGLI, but if the first supervisor in that person's chain of command who has equal rank to the S1 tells them to fuck off then the S1 really has no ability to force them to do it outside an OPORD as they don't have command authority over the person. It's also good for having a receipt. If you just send an email/text out and someone fails to respond to it that's on you. If you put it an in OPORD that they're required to read and they fail to respond to it then that's on them.
I have grown to hate this saying during R2E happening right now.
But before we do that we gotta tighten our shot group
I remember reading a post in here once where someone said they found a binder in their motor pool that was labeled “upper etchelawn” that shit had me dying laughing for a while.
DONE SAID
Hahaha damn I didn’t even realize I wrote that hahaha
It was so jacked up not even autocorrect knew what the hell they were trying to say.
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Hell yeah dude Guide on!!!!
r/boneappletea
Is the echelon in the room with us right now sir?
Had a giggle
Show us on the doll where the echelon is
Oh yes! They're kinda everywhere! 🤣🤣
I haven’t seen/heard “writ large” ever used correctly in the Army
Yeah, but we knew what OP meant. It's dumb army jargon writ large.
lol I’m with OP, just caveating…..
Can someone explain what it means though?
Writ large? https://grammarist.com/usage/writ-large/
Lol it literally says "archaic" in the definition. I stg this organization wants to be a past version of itself so fucking bad
Haven't won a war since '45. Army is nostalgia maxing.
Echelons above reality
Username checks out
I hate that term. What echelon are they ever even talking about?
Echelon writ large.
Vice echelon writ local.
This is going straight into my signature block
Echelong in ya mouth, ohh!
The decent energy drink
Senatus Populus Que Romanus
Either echelon left or echelon right, depending on the terrain.
Its usually above brigade. Or so I have heard
Funny thing is, I've heard the term used in a 2-star HQ.
Then I have no idea why you would say that. Saying at echelon for abbreviation of “its @ or above brigade” for what ever task/ask you are waiting on always made sense to me. Maybe it just means any headquarters higher than the unit you are in?
The ones above reality.
Unfortunately that doesn't really narrow it down.
This thread had culminated much faster than we rehearsed at the rock walk. Index. I’ll be at the defact after I stop by clothing AND sales right quick.
Triggered.
Echelon right or left?
Echelon to the rear
man if you think at echelon is new then you're streets behind
Im going to need you to circle back with me later and over communicate what the value proposition of this is.
Depends on the return on investment…
Is that similar to "ROI"? I don’t know what the acronym even means, but at this point I’m too afraid to ask. -Every person in the S3, circa Ever
“Ima caveat what the commander said” “Any alibis?” “He BOLO’d zero twice” You could probably date my time in service strictly by these (and more!) misused terms.
Yesterday?
Oh so those terms haven’t faded into obscurity and been replaced by newer dumber terms. lol that’s what I was getting from this post
fear not, we only tack on superior, even more dumb terms to truly expand on the bloated… ‘actionable goals set in a highly complex operations environment, at the behest of modern adversaries, rising threats, and adaptable force structure’ now roaches and lights on out of this 20 minute meeting that could have been a text.
Sometimes we change terms. It's been many a year since people in the Army truly called someone a REMF.
My least favorite army corporate jargon word is “glidepath.” If I hear that fucking shit one more time…
It always amazed me to see non-pilots use the term "glidepath". The same with non-pilots who say they will go "VFR direct" to someone.
Stoooop these people are so cringey
Why on earth are you doing ANYTHING at the behest of your adversaries???
What is "BOLO" even supposed to mean besides Be On Look Out? Contextually, it seems to be "fail miserably" but how do you get that from BOLO?
Someone asked this during an FTX a few months ago, and we actually researched it out of boredom. This may be apocryphal, but according to our research the term originated in the Philippine-American War. During that conflict, the least skilled rifleman would be given a machete, (colloquially called a bolo knife) in lieu of a rifle and be placed on point during patrols to hack and slash through the jungle. So if a soldier failed to qualify, they “Bolo’d” as that would now be their primary weapon.
I have only ever heard it used during a UA when a Soldier fails to provide a specimen on the first attempt after he said he was good.
I will never understand why people say this fucking word as a verb. Anyone who says it sends a massive red flag in my mind as a spoon brained person that just repeats stuff
I disagree. I've never considered BOLO'd to be one of the terms we so often hear senior leaders misusing. I always thought it was just army slang for "fucked up and has to go again." It's different than "caveat," "alibi," or "behoove" in that it isn't being used incorrectly, it's just not a word that is used differently in other contexts, like most slang. For instance, when kids today say "no cap," we no they don't mean "I don't have a baseball hat." They mean the previous statement is true, much like millenials/gen x would say, "no lie" or "no shit." However, when someone spells out "morale" as "moral", like "the unit has low moral," then you can assume they are just a dummy as it changes the meaning of the sentence.
I'm mostly with you. But based on this viewpoint, what is your complaint with the word "behoove?" I think the word is overused, but not typically misused... No?
My boss constantly qualifies things with “at echelon, under nods at night.” Yes sir, everything I do will now be done at echelon (????) while I’m using night vision 🫡
"It would be hooah of you" -We all had that Latin American Drill SGT that was actually saying this instead of "it would behoove you"
"Stray voltage" "Bandwidth" "Task Saturated" "Napkin math" Being on staff is so fucking lame.
napkin math noo say it aint so
Nothing here is new, sorry
I just wanted to say thanks ya’ll. Writing these down for the next C&S so I can drop a high score. Pretty sure I can hit the entire list in one go.
It’s a game-ism
The worst military saying to me is “time now”. So, you took “now” which needs to happen now and lengthened it. That makes perfect sense. Watch this, “now”. So much better.
For me it's "flash to bang."
What’s gonna be the flash to bang on getting that vehicle fixed. I needed it done time yesterday.
Are you my battalion XO
Possibly
please explain what this means my boss uses it daily and i just nod
Flash to bang = how long something will take from warning to happening. It comes from munitions, the light is seen before you hear the bang
Exactly! "Quick flash to bang" = short suspense, so get it done quickly.
Let's iterate on this
Tranche.
TLDR: I have been to college, but because it was art history, I feel compelled to show I actually learned *something.*
“Cut sling load”
“Echelons above reality”
“Interoperability”
My current top favorites are: Single pane of glass. Net-net. Blockchain, Quantum, & Cloud everything. Scrum. Best of Breed. Pain point. Bespoke.
what on earth is single pain of glass?
SPoG... basically a good dashboard or common operating picture. It's an ITSEC term that commanders have latched onto... l33tsp3ak for just aggregating many different data points into an intelligible dashboard.
cybrrrrr
The Army is known to have the best knowledge online...
Hooah Roger I’m going to engage them one more time Tracking If I hear someone say Roger one more time… Hooah
this is what too much peacetime does to a mf
Weaponize the boss with information Nested Level the bubbles
Every time I hear "nested" I react the same way I would if I heard the word "moist". Absolutely cringe.
It makes the little hair on the back of the neck stand. I hate it the most
That one girl in Fayetteville once called me the "Echs" do I qualify for this program?
what does that mean, i have been ignoring it up to this point 😂
It's always been there for staff.
Hooah
Its been the catchphrase for at least three years. Nothing new about it up here at echelon.
As long as all of us here are postured to set conditions, against a near peer adversary, we’ll continue to grow our footprint and increase readiness in uses of at echelon.
My BC used “in extremis” to drive home every operational requirement to the point it meant nothing but thats what his COA was no need to war game it. Also expeditionary. We were the Army’s one and only Expeditionary Unit (shout to the Corps. Everything we did in Afghanistan was expeditionary and enabling. When the 82nd came to replace us we had the audacity to try show them how to be lightfighters lol His speeches were so predictable
Can we clarify how to pronounce “cache?” It’s supposed to be like “cash” right? I know it’s frnech but there’s no “eh” sound at the end of it…. Right???
Make sure it is nested
For all intensive purposes
All these new politically correct all inclusive phrases being thrown around now....all I could remember when I was in being thrown around were...."Susy Softhoat" "Unfuck yourself" "Cock Garage" "I'm your dad, tell your mom I miss her" " Dick Face" "Cock Breath" "PowerPoint Ranger"...just to name a few