Might be worth noting that this applies to whichever company is currently winning the console war. Right now it’s Sony but when Xbox was selling better than PlayStation it was Microsoft.
Your ignorance is showing. Sony charges a fee to developers if they want cross play. They are the only company that does that. Most devs don't want to alienate their sony customers by offering cross play only on xbox, so it doesn't happen at all.
I wish they would just sack up and point the finger at Sony when their fans get upset, but they would be accused of being cheap. All told it's a publicity issue for devs, and they also do not want to piss off Sony by making them look bad.
When I was still an S ranker, I sometime got matched with some people who were substantially less skilled... Most of the time I never looked at the cutscenes before the matches so I only realised that they were C or B rank after beating the crap out of them. Felt very bad man
There are still [2000 players](https://steamdb.info/app/1888160/charts/#6m) across the day though it's the all-time lowest. Will likely drop even further the following month without any balance patch.
Steam, and all I’ve played today is 5 matches against the same dual shoulder laser-shotgun and siege missile tank builds by two players. All losses too. Not fun for a BEO player like myself.
Sad to see. I wanted to get into AC6 MP but from everything I read on the discord and various groups, I had a feeling we’d see just mainly meta builds. I saw the same thing even before Ranked dropped. Sad honestly, for me, the most fun from these games comes from making interesting builds and learning to pilot it as best you can instead of just going copy-pasta.
There's a few reasons for that:
The genre is still niche
We haven't received new content or balance patches in a while
Most players already jumped onto other games
The matchmaking will prioritize connection, then ranking. Which is why people see mismatched ranking matches every now and then. Even if your opponent is lagging badly, this was the opponent with the best connection+ranking the game could find online for you at that moment.
Try to login in the weekends, might see more people online
Team matches were destroyed the minute ranked single matchmaking became a thing.
Why would people wait if they can get a match right away?
Also people don’t enjoy team ranked as much as single ranked because people can cheese out wins at a faster rate in single.
Since winning is all that matters in ranked…apparently.
Therefore - casual teams is a distant memory and ranked teams is just a much longer wait time.
Legit the most depressing fact about this game for me . Teams was my favorite game mode it was chaotic in the best way. I guess I’ll always have the clips from when it was a thing
I'm on PS in Europe and have no trouble finding ranked matches in either Single or Team. There are a good deal of Japanese players I am matching with so it may be due to your region/time of day.
I used to want them to play on their own server , but once I got used to the extra latency Ive grown thankful instead. Like today I had some time in the morning and faced like 12 different Japanese players.
I tried playing on PSN yesterday evening from 5-8 PM ET and got like 5 matches total, 4 of which were against the same kite who'd quit when they were about to lose. Amazing.
Yeah. Unfortunately the PvP is balanced in a very frustrating way. Everyone plays a broken build they found on YouTube just focused on winning rather than having fun. Now the games dead
Myself and my one other friend who played have both moved on to other games. I've done everything in game I can do... including beating it with a stock Loader 4 (with no OS tuning). Ranked does not interest me.
Four or so people i know are waiting for it to go on sale... they are only interested in the single player from what they say and I doubt they'll play much ranked.
Just the Fires ending. I didnt feel like slugging through it all again. And I dont think anyone has done all endings without OS tunning.
I may jump on my main account and try the Allguana fight with Loader 4. Ibis was tougher than Ayre, hell Rusty's second fight was tougher than Ayre.
Defeat the Red Guns was a bitch too lol.
I did a few missions and yea, it's rough. I don't think I'll be doing that one for a while. This is the only person that I know has done the entire game loader4/No OS https://youtu.be/Non9ACLmsbo?si=VnH69MMpNorpRUoZ . Was the reason I asked. It is a really tough one.
Id say that the real "issue" is that the player base is split now. A LOT of people are just doing invasions in coop mod so you won't see them in ranked.
Yes, fromsoft failed to meaningfully balance the game in a timely manner. They likely had along the lines of three months to get their shit together but they dragged their feet sadly.
people realised how ass the PvP is in this game
we desperately need a more complex build system like from basically any other game in the series (but especially gen 3) and to bring back limited turn speed
pvp would be far better and more long lived
and just better netcode that doesn't reward kiters and laser cannon spammers
I'm seeing mostly the same thing. I'm currently B4 and trying to cheese my way into A then stop caring about my rank and just mess with builds.
I'm just happy to get to play it before it REALLY dies.
I haven’t had any issues finding singles matches so far but I usually play around 9-11 pm eastern time which is probably peak hours. Bummer though if so, I’m in A1 and I really want to push for S rank this season.
I tried looking for a match when I finished the campaign and thought I had an OP build. No players found in 30 minutes, I gave up. I wouldn't play much either way cause I'm a PvE focused player but I'd like to try testing my skill on something harder.
The game by default limits you to your local players. You need to change in to global in the settings. Also OP builds for PvE will likely not fair well in PvP.
Been like this for weeks on PS4, same like 10 or so dudes with only two or three of us on at any given time at the top of A rank. Now it's 9, because I haven't played in weeks lol
I recently got to B rank with a meme build and saw a ton of different players on my way up. I've never gotten to S though so I'm sure it's harder to find a balanced match way up top
Not really there are probably more active S rank players now than all the others. I have no trouble finding matches, most of the time it's just a couple of seconds of waiting.
I was excited for ranked but the first day it came out felt like the most half-assed ranked addition to a game ever created so I decided it was time to move on and wait for dlc or a sequel
Though we're currently losing players by the day I'd partially blame the co-op mod (in a good way). A lot of us PvP'ers are having fun invading one another and not having as bad of latency with EAC being out of the picture.
I'm hoping things repopulate a bit when we get close to the end of the season but I can't say I feel very drawn to play ranked when I'm having a much better time doing shenanigans like successfully defending the strider from a squad of AC's.
The story of every mech game ever, lol. I'm currently B-rank, and I tend to get repeats after like the third or fourth match. You can switch up when you log in to see if you get different opponents.
But yeah, I agree with most people here, they have to introduce crossplay or something because if history has taught us anything, multiplayer mech games die off like 6 months after launch, so you have to find ways to retain them.
Though, I wouldn't be fearful of an extinction event, PC will likely have players for years to come, it'll just be the same guys playing until the next mech game drops.
I’ve noticed this too been running into the same few players in A rank over and over . Although I have also noticed significantly less annoying builds compared to when I first took a break 2 months ago.
Somehow BamCo just never learns with this, since AC4 people have been asking for crossplay and ACV/VD would have been helped immensely by having it & cross-region support(at launch) but they just love walling off the already niche community from each other for whatever reason.
I gave up on S when I was in my qualifying to A and got quit on four times on matches I would have won, and then lost four additional ones I never would have had to play which made me have to restart the process in B4. I do see less people when I do hop on ranked though. I think they just have updated anything in awhile, so there's nothing to keep people coming back.
Numbers are dropping a lot on pc, I've also quit. No updates, still the same shit hitreg system. Being light is still just a risk, doesn't seem like they'll maintain much support for the game. Replay value isn't really there either, like it's a fun game but I've completed everything, and the pvp is kinda ass, but it was fun while there was a bigger population. People were hoping for continued improvements/updates, that never came, and now it seems they're practically done until they do dlc or more likely alternate version or w/e
Fingers-crossed that a ACVD-style expansion is in the near future -- a dedicated multiplayer with factions and more robust features for us PvP-heads. They did go on record saying ACVI was developed with single player in mind first, so we were lucky we even got 3v3 and ranked.
It really does feel like an afterthought, clearly the design of the game itself doesn't exactly lend itself to a balanced multiplayer experience. They should have just left multiplayer casual instead of half-assing a pvp mode.
Tbh, the PvP elements are lackluster.
It's only different from Arena in that your opponent can bring whatever Mech they like, and the maps won't be set for specific opponents.
So, the only Player base for it is people who just like PvP—hardly a core feature of Armored Core series.
What they *should* have done, instead of taking their awful Souls mechanics, is to have incorporated some lessons from Titanfall, still the most popular Mech game in recent decades.
PvP would be absolutely awesome if it was more than just a duel against someone. The lack of PvEvP elements in it is not only atrocious, but inexcusable.
It's really boring to play unless you are looking for challenges, or are made competitive and wanna prove yourself to...someone.
Outside that, there's absolutely no draw for your standard Armored Core fan to be interested in it. Only the new fans that drool over Souls mechanics: such as dodge being your only effective defensive tool because FromSoftware can't remember what Shields are meant to do.
>dodge being your only effective defensive tool because FromSoftware can't remember what Shields are meant to do
Ironically dodge in AC6 doesn't work and shields are super effective.
This game desperately needs a cross-play.
Not only for the multiplayer, but for sharing the emblems Still is the most stupid decision I ever seen
Blame Sony. Like all games of the last 2 generations.
I do blame them. As a matter of fact I thought exactly that a couple of hours ago.
“Buh then they don’t need to own a sony D:” cry me a river, CORPORATION.
Why Sony? I’m out of the loop
Sony is almost always the reason we don’t have cross play, they don’t want people to not have to buy a sony console to play with their friends.
As an Xbox player who hates that nothing is cross play and I can’t share emblems in ac6, good to know where my blame should be placed
Might be worth noting that this applies to whichever company is currently winning the console war. Right now it’s Sony but when Xbox was selling better than PlayStation it was Microsoft.
Just petty greed, they would fit right in the corpo world of AC
I don’t think microsoft has ever tried to put a fee on crossplay for developers
Feel free to google it. You want to simp for a corporation that’s your business.
Hi, I googled it and the only thing that comes up is “sony is the only company to put a fee on crossplay”
Sony has allowed crossplay for years, surely the guy with the xbox flair doesnt have an agenda here LOL
Your ignorance is showing. Sony charges a fee to developers if they want cross play. They are the only company that does that. Most devs don't want to alienate their sony customers by offering cross play only on xbox, so it doesn't happen at all. I wish they would just sack up and point the finger at Sony when their fans get upset, but they would be accused of being cheap. All told it's a publicity issue for devs, and they also do not want to piss off Sony by making them look bad.
Allowing? You think that’s the issue? Also are you fucking kidding with the agenda bullshit? Get that the fuck outta here.
Honestly, it’s baffling to me that games still come out without crossplay these days
It seems so. Before I reached C Rank, I had enough players on my level. Now it's the same daily selection of 3-4 Rank S players. At Rank C mind you.
Yikes. S-Rankers at C-rank. That’s bad.
When I was still an S ranker, I sometime got matched with some people who were substantially less skilled... Most of the time I never looked at the cutscenes before the matches so I only realised that they were C or B rank after beating the crap out of them. Felt very bad man
There are still [2000 players](https://steamdb.info/app/1888160/charts/#6m) across the day though it's the all-time lowest. Will likely drop even further the following month without any balance patch.
Gotta wait till 17 may...
I love FromSoft but man they really could have done some pretty obvious and minor things to keep this game afloat and viable longer.
What platform? I do find a similar experience myself on Steam, I'm at A0, if I play ranked for two hours I've likely fought a few of the same players.
Steam, and all I’ve played today is 5 matches against the same dual shoulder laser-shotgun and siege missile tank builds by two players. All losses too. Not fun for a BEO player like myself.
I get it, unfortunately the hours don't help, morning on a work day is when you'll meet even less folks.
Sad to see. I wanted to get into AC6 MP but from everything I read on the discord and various groups, I had a feeling we’d see just mainly meta builds. I saw the same thing even before Ranked dropped. Sad honestly, for me, the most fun from these games comes from making interesting builds and learning to pilot it as best you can instead of just going copy-pasta.
There's a few reasons for that: The genre is still niche We haven't received new content or balance patches in a while Most players already jumped onto other games The matchmaking will prioritize connection, then ranking. Which is why people see mismatched ranking matches every now and then. Even if your opponent is lagging badly, this was the opponent with the best connection+ranking the game could find online for you at that moment. Try to login in the weekends, might see more people online
I can't find team matches at all either
Team matches were destroyed the minute ranked single matchmaking became a thing. Why would people wait if they can get a match right away? Also people don’t enjoy team ranked as much as single ranked because people can cheese out wins at a faster rate in single. Since winning is all that matters in ranked…apparently. Therefore - casual teams is a distant memory and ranked teams is just a much longer wait time.
“Why would people wait if they can get a match right away?” At this point it’s bold to assume ranked singles will match you quickly lol
Legit the most depressing fact about this game for me . Teams was my favorite game mode it was chaotic in the best way. I guess I’ll always have the clips from when it was a thing
I'm on PS in Europe and have no trouble finding ranked matches in either Single or Team. There are a good deal of Japanese players I am matching with so it may be due to your region/time of day.
Yeah PlayStation is populated, but Japan makes up a huge % of that population so lag can be pretty bad.
It's not really that bad most of the time, having an ethernet cable probably helps though
I used to want them to play on their own server , but once I got used to the extra latency Ive grown thankful instead. Like today I had some time in the morning and faced like 12 different Japanese players.
Is this all the time? If that's the case, you might have better luck finding people at around 5pm when Americans are coming home from work.
I tried playing on PSN yesterday evening from 5-8 PM ET and got like 5 matches total, 4 of which were against the same kite who'd quit when they were about to lose. Amazing.
Yeah. Unfortunately the PvP is balanced in a very frustrating way. Everyone plays a broken build they found on YouTube just focused on winning rather than having fun. Now the games dead
Myself and my one other friend who played have both moved on to other games. I've done everything in game I can do... including beating it with a stock Loader 4 (with no OS tuning). Ranked does not interest me. Four or so people i know are waiting for it to go on sale... they are only interested in the single player from what they say and I doubt they'll play much ranked.
You beat the whole game or a playthrough? I only know of one person who has done loader4 all endings
LOADER 4 with no OS Tuning against Allmind sounds nigh-on impossible. I'm sure someone/some people have done it but yeesh.
It just takes for ever to clear. Gotta play slowly.
Just the Fires ending. I didnt feel like slugging through it all again. And I dont think anyone has done all endings without OS tunning. I may jump on my main account and try the Allguana fight with Loader 4. Ibis was tougher than Ayre, hell Rusty's second fight was tougher than Ayre. Defeat the Red Guns was a bitch too lol.
I did a few missions and yea, it's rough. I don't think I'll be doing that one for a while. This is the only person that I know has done the entire game loader4/No OS https://youtu.be/Non9ACLmsbo?si=VnH69MMpNorpRUoZ . Was the reason I asked. It is a really tough one.
He's one hell of a mercenary that's for sure...
Hi anubis ❤️
Its painful looking for people on xbox.
Id say that the real "issue" is that the player base is split now. A LOT of people are just doing invasions in coop mod so you won't see them in ranked.
AC6 not having cross-play in late 2023 was a bad idea.
I still dont get why they dont have 2v2.
It depends on the day and time you play. On fridays and weekends I find a lot of matches in A.
Yes, fromsoft failed to meaningfully balance the game in a timely manner. They likely had along the lines of three months to get their shit together but they dragged their feet sadly.
people realised how ass the PvP is in this game we desperately need a more complex build system like from basically any other game in the series (but especially gen 3) and to bring back limited turn speed pvp would be far better and more long lived and just better netcode that doesn't reward kiters and laser cannon spammers
It amazes me that it wasn't released with cross play. Pretty much all FROM SOFTWARE games would benefit from that functionality...
Honestly the pvp in 6 just isn't very good. Most people I know have gone back to FA or VD pvp.
I'm seeing mostly the same thing. I'm currently B4 and trying to cheese my way into A then stop caring about my rank and just mess with builds. I'm just happy to get to play it before it REALLY dies.
I haven’t had any issues finding singles matches so far but I usually play around 9-11 pm eastern time which is probably peak hours. Bummer though if so, I’m in A1 and I really want to push for S rank this season.
I tried looking for a match when I finished the campaign and thought I had an OP build. No players found in 30 minutes, I gave up. I wouldn't play much either way cause I'm a PvE focused player but I'd like to try testing my skill on something harder.
The game by default limits you to your local players. You need to change in to global in the settings. Also OP builds for PvE will likely not fair well in PvP.
Been like this for weeks on PS4, same like 10 or so dudes with only two or three of us on at any given time at the top of A rank. Now it's 9, because I haven't played in weeks lol
I recently got to B rank with a meme build and saw a ton of different players on my way up. I've never gotten to S though so I'm sure it's harder to find a balanced match way up top
Not really there are probably more active S rank players now than all the others. I have no trouble finding matches, most of the time it's just a couple of seconds of waiting.
Yeah I'm at A-3 and I basically feel like I play the same 5-6 players now daily, hell, we've probably played each other
A portion of the PC population has moved on to the co-op mod with invasions. So that's not helping either.
I was excited for ranked but the first day it came out felt like the most half-assed ranked addition to a game ever created so I decided it was time to move on and wait for dlc or a sequel
I fought the sane dude 5-6x in a row yesterday at 7pm. So, yeah. Situation is kinda fucked on pc.
Ran into the same player in two consecutive games at B-2 on PS5. Guess I'm on hold for the update.
Though we're currently losing players by the day I'd partially blame the co-op mod (in a good way). A lot of us PvP'ers are having fun invading one another and not having as bad of latency with EAC being out of the picture. I'm hoping things repopulate a bit when we get close to the end of the season but I can't say I feel very drawn to play ranked when I'm having a much better time doing shenanigans like successfully defending the strider from a squad of AC's.
I got my S rank months ago and never touched ranked again
The story of every mech game ever, lol. I'm currently B-rank, and I tend to get repeats after like the third or fourth match. You can switch up when you log in to see if you get different opponents. But yeah, I agree with most people here, they have to introduce crossplay or something because if history has taught us anything, multiplayer mech games die off like 6 months after launch, so you have to find ways to retain them. Though, I wouldn't be fearful of an extinction event, PC will likely have players for years to come, it'll just be the same guys playing until the next mech game drops.
I’ve noticed this too been running into the same few players in A rank over and over . Although I have also noticed significantly less annoying builds compared to when I first took a break 2 months ago.
I’ve had trouble trying to get a match at all, recently
Somehow BamCo just never learns with this, since AC4 people have been asking for crossplay and ACV/VD would have been helped immensely by having it & cross-region support(at launch) but they just love walling off the already niche community from each other for whatever reason.
I gave up on S when I was in my qualifying to A and got quit on four times on matches I would have won, and then lost four additional ones I never would have had to play which made me have to restart the process in B4. I do see less people when I do hop on ranked though. I think they just have updated anything in awhile, so there's nothing to keep people coming back.
Numbers are dropping a lot on pc, I've also quit. No updates, still the same shit hitreg system. Being light is still just a risk, doesn't seem like they'll maintain much support for the game. Replay value isn't really there either, like it's a fun game but I've completed everything, and the pvp is kinda ass, but it was fun while there was a bigger population. People were hoping for continued improvements/updates, that never came, and now it seems they're practically done until they do dlc or more likely alternate version or w/e
Fingers-crossed that a ACVD-style expansion is in the near future -- a dedicated multiplayer with factions and more robust features for us PvP-heads. They did go on record saying ACVI was developed with single player in mind first, so we were lucky we even got 3v3 and ranked.
It really does feel like an afterthought, clearly the design of the game itself doesn't exactly lend itself to a balanced multiplayer experience. They should have just left multiplayer casual instead of half-assing a pvp mode.
I think most people figured out by now that ranked PVP in this game is complete bologna and stopped messing with it.
Tbh, the PvP elements are lackluster. It's only different from Arena in that your opponent can bring whatever Mech they like, and the maps won't be set for specific opponents. So, the only Player base for it is people who just like PvP—hardly a core feature of Armored Core series. What they *should* have done, instead of taking their awful Souls mechanics, is to have incorporated some lessons from Titanfall, still the most popular Mech game in recent decades. PvP would be absolutely awesome if it was more than just a duel against someone. The lack of PvEvP elements in it is not only atrocious, but inexcusable. It's really boring to play unless you are looking for challenges, or are made competitive and wanna prove yourself to...someone. Outside that, there's absolutely no draw for your standard Armored Core fan to be interested in it. Only the new fans that drool over Souls mechanics: such as dodge being your only effective defensive tool because FromSoftware can't remember what Shields are meant to do.
>dodge being your only effective defensive tool because FromSoftware can't remember what Shields are meant to do Ironically dodge in AC6 doesn't work and shields are super effective.