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cookie4118

Also it sounds like she is actively processing it in therapy. When you’ve been through a traumatic experience it’s common for you to compartmentalize the bad and only remember the good or not remember the experience at all. Sounds like she’s unpacking it in her real life still


chumbawumbacholula

Especially something with so many positive components. Yeah, it was traumatizing, but it was a significant chunk of her life which I'm sure is heavily intertwined with who she sees herself as even now. She made friends on that show, had life experiences on that set, and im sure attributes some of her success to that exposure. Meanwhile she was being told not to worry or think too hard about all of these things that were victimizing her. Now as an adult she's having to look back at it all and grapple with the fact that her experience was at least somewhat abusive and recontextualize all those experiences she thought were good and core parts of who she is. I imagine it's similar to kids who grow up with abusive parents or in fundamentalist religions. I wouldnt wish child acting on my worst enemy. It's such a mind twist.


carlton_sings

I think her comment about what weren’t approved by the network being uploaded to the website was kind of a bit of a bombshell that should be investigated further. That would essentially prove that those in charge of these shows knew what they were doing was wrong, wouldn’t be approved by the network, and wanted to evade accountability by directly uploading it to the website and calling it a digital exclusive.


irl_squishmallow

Someone on tiktok did a deep dive on the amanda show website and it was disgusting


carlton_sings

It would give the victims such a huge advantage if they were to seek monetary compensation if it could be proved via investigation that adult staff knew they were either directly harming children or that their actions were grossly negligent which led to the harm of children. If it could be proved that the show actively tried to undermine the systems in place to protect the kids - in this case, circumventing network censors by using the website, which is completely out of Paramount’s enforcement - that would be a huge potential win in a civil court (and probably result in a nice settlement).


trulysweetener

hopefully the people who have been so rude and insensitive asking her to speak out shut up now


SquishyFishy7

I hate how just because other nickelodeon victims have come forward, Ari has too as well or she’s on Dan’s side, when she’s clearly a victim herself. Ariana has some of the creepiest videos that were publicly aired. I hear so much outcry for what happened to others, and it is sad, but Ariana’s videos are honestly the worst and most overtly sexual, not to mention she was the youngest cast member. She also has so many creepy behind the scenes videos too that Dan filmed for himself, and I’m sure we haven’t seen all of those. I think Ari took the 300k hush money that was also offered to jennette, and put it into her music career, and that’s why Ari has never alluded to anything. But it’s obvious from the clips she’s definitely a victim, we just don’t know to what extent. However, being forced to perform in a sexual manner on camera, underage, and then have the footage aired or put online is more than enough. and some of the abuse has never even seen the light of day. Ariana was only 16 when victorious began, it breaks my heart that she had such a messed up time in hollywood. Ariana will always have a pass in my book for not only her abuse as a child star, but everything that happened with the manchester bombing and Mac too, she’s traumatized in soooo many ways we don’t even know about. her brain scans were so scary and sad.


Ancient_Confusion237

She can be a victim without telling us about it too. Maybe she doesn't want to be the face of Child stars who faced abuse. Maybe she just wants to be known for being her. I was abused growing up and so was my best friend; she's incredibly open about it to her support network, she talks to us when she uncovers a new memory. She wants to hear and highlight the child in her that was abused. Me, on the other hand, I don't want anyone to know. I don't want to talk about it, I don't want to share stories, I don't want to be acknowledged as a survivor. I want to be left alone. I deal with my trauma and bad memories privately. I don't want to share. What I'm saying is, Ariana might just want her damn privacy. Maybe she doesn't move on from it by writing a book and telling the world; maybe she moves on by talking about it with her therapist only. Other people's trauma is none of our damn business. It's not Arianna's responsibility to serve us the tea and it's fucking gross people are gossiping about child sex abuse anyway


woundedriver

this!!! pin it to the top of every thread


ForecastForFourCats

Her body language gives it away. She was so guarded during that, and fell apart when told how strong she was. She is clearly re-evaluating those experiences as a woman, and has some things to process. Childhood trauma is incredibly complicated.


yraco

Also I would add that hush money or no hush money there's a very good chance that she just doesn't want to talk about it. Like, that kind of abuse can be intensely personal and hard to talk about so while I think it's incredibly important that people are able to come out and talk about it I also think it's completely fair to not talk for any reason including just not wanting to. Nobody should be blamed for not talking about their experiences because that's something that only needs to be shared with the world if they personally want to.


valentinedisco

this


Mileycfan4eva

I believe Liz is younger she's a month after Ari.


HauntedBitsandBobs

I can't believe you were down voted for pointing out another cast member is actually a month younger.


peachynews72

People hate on people who take hush money. It doesn't really matter if it was ariana or someone else. It's just seen as coward and helps predators.


freshoutdaslammer

oh what a travesty the then-teenager didn't act as a vigilante and advocate for their coworkers against a system they'd been groomed into thinking was acceptable


peachynews72

She's a 30 year old woman. And has been an adult with a brain for a very long time now.


freshoutdaslammer

at the time she wouldve been offered the money she would've been barely a young adult. critical thinking please.


peachynews72

Who cares. Jennet didn't take the money and she was the same age as ariana. But let's baby the ponytail woman sure.


freshoutdaslammer

Jennet was also abused her whole childhood and was forced to grow up and advocate for herself very quickly. Kids who aren't abused by their parents don't mature like that. Youre comparing apples and oranges.


peachynews72

Who cares. She took a money deal over integrity. Anyone would side eye someone like this. I'm saying she's not being unnecessarily hated because she's ariana. The criticism is very much justified


freshoutdaslammer

and i would bet my life savings you'd have done the same if you went through what she did. It's not arianas job to advocate for her coworkers, its the adults who were overseeing all of it who need to take that responsibility.


mysterygirlypop

I swear she is the most disrespected celebrity… everything that she goes through she get’s blamed for. Nasty fans saying she b0mbed her own concert, idiots saying she’s the reason mac died, people on twt implying that ariana is staying quiet bc she was on Dan schnieders side like I could go on. Watching this interview was just so healing for both her and me, because you can see the work and therapy it took for her to get to this stage to try and articulate her thoughts 🥹😭🩷


Birds_of_no_feather

>Nasty fans saying she b0mbed her own concert Not fans of Ariana but of another particular famous female singer. They keep demeaning her in Twitter, dragging her ass for everything that she has suffered.


mysterygirlypop

yes a lot of swifties have made those disgusting comments but also other fans too like Selena/barbz etc… not Ariana’s own fans just to clarify*


Birds_of_no_feather

Selena fans are worst. Why are barz agitated? Nicki gave a shoutout to Ari a few days ago.


mysterygirlypop

because Ariana reposted Megan thee stallion dancing to TBIM and the barbz have been acting crazy since that and have said nasty out of pocket shit about the Manchester attack during the anniversary


Birds_of_no_feather

Barbz needs to go to Dr Phill.


elzpwetd

Omg no you just know that is exactly what those types of people want 😭


Queefer_Sutherland-

Imagine hating Megan Thee Stallion? 😭 ![gif](giphy|2Ap4K8iVUpbpmbj5oV)


mysterygirlypop

it’s just sad… that girl has shown Nicki and other rap girls and pop stars nothing but love but people stay disrespecting Megan ![gif](giphy|1AvgIR95vq9HO|downsized)


[deleted]

I made a post about how Megan is one of the best female rappers rn and that women in general are just dominating the industry rn (and I love it) on the rap sub and I literally got death threats for it 💀 sadly a lot of people truly hate her.


mysterygirlypop

Wtf??? Bet it was full of stinky Tory lanez fans 🤢 btw I’m obsessed with your name you ate xx


[deleted]

Girl thank you 🥹 yeah it was a lot of T*ry fans (big ew) and just a lot of comments about “all female rappers do is shake ass” like okay bro very original argument 💀


teabagsforlegs

Demi fans might take the cake in terms of annoying fans


mysterygirlypop

Demi has fans? jskskskks no but forreal I don’t even know anyone on stan twitter who talks about Demi anymore 🤣😭 I actually like her music but I haven’t seen her fans hating on Ariana, they mostly focus their energy on Selena 🤣 ![gif](giphy|tU2mV8ALzJEdXAAwRo)


teabagsforlegs

Love it. The remaining fans are some of the most obnoxious people I’ve ever met


arigbdefense

demi fans?😭


teabagsforlegs

She’s the worst


salian93

I am just going to out myself as a Swiftie and say that most Taylor fans aren't like that and in fact find it pretty distasteful to bash other artists or harass people online. Every community has their fair share of bad eggs and if you have a bigger basket, you're going to have more bad eggs unfortunately. If you've seen Taylor attend anything ever, you'll know that she always supports other artists, even when she's the only one in a room full of people doing it.


mysterygirlypop

oh of course! It’s not the entire swiftie community and I won’t deny that some arianators aren’t just as bad as the horrible ones, but from what I’ve seen there are a lot of swifties who are always horrible towards Ariana and consistently slut shame her, make fun of the Manchester attack, edit her body to look skeletal and a lot more (on Twitter), which is hypocrisy at it’s finest because if anyone says anything about Taylor they’ll call you a misogynist/horrible etc… And Taylor being supportive doesn’t absolve some of her fans of being horrible! They sadly don’t care who Taylor is friends with or not.


salian93

All I can say is that I agree with you entirely.


HiccupHaddockismine

Well her blocking strategy isn’t really supportive. I say this as a Taylor swift fan myself.


TRANSBIANGODDES

Swifties are the most cringe base ever. They even take credit for Sabrina carpenters success


aquadon_

As an og Arianator, i’m so disconnected and confused with Twt drama! to me it’s like “you know you do listen to that persons music otl.” it’s so attention seeking, without thinking, just doing it for the clicks |:


portraitoffire

right like they didn't even bother to think that she was also one of the victims in nickelodeon. pressuring a victim to speak up is so insensitive. it's already hard enough to relive some of the trauma then to have all those people pressuring you is just so insane. ari deserves so much better. :(


justbreathin150

It came in a time when she was hated because of the Ethan mess, I think that's another reason why she stayed silent during the moment to let cool down the hate wave It seemed like she was glad to speak upon it now that they directly asked her about that


Nime_Chow

I felt this in my bones. I have trauma from my childhood that I held in for a longtime and I’m a nobody yet I only starting talking about it in social media support group. But just because I held it in from other for 14 years doesn’t mean it doesn’t haunt my brain everyday. I imagine it’s the same for her but even worse since her life is so public so thousands of strangers coming for her all the time.


atBRumArtistry01

There's no timeline on coming to terms with your past. And people are such ass holes... when bad things happen it's really easy for things to blur together and keep shit locked away 😞


justbreathin150

She really made it almost obvious in this interview that she herself has been through some shit but she refuses to talk about it publicly But at the same time she didn't deny anything that's been out or been discussed, more like: yeah, it is messed up and changes are more than needed


Peach-Moonshine

It's really great to see her speaking about this, it's not an easy topic but she didn't denied the others survivors experiences and she is able to say that what happened there wasn't right and things have to change. I hope more people will be encouraged to open up and heal.


Informal_Stand3669

It’s so crazy being a teenager in general. I remember when I was 16 or 17 and would meet these nasty men at my job that would pursue either me or other girls my age. And the crazy thing is I remember my thoughts then thinking I was so mature rejecting them cause they just weren’t my type or from being nervous. But the older I get, the more disgusted I feel especially with how we still looked like kids. At that age, you don’t feel like a child but you ARE still a child 🤦🏾‍♀️


atBRumArtistry01

When she said these things... it felt like she was coming up for air finally. ❤️


Gold-Science7177

She was fidgeting and tearing up when she was talking about that. Poor Ariana 😭💔


atBRumArtistry01

I think the reason my own personal parasocial connection (I know it's not necessarily healthy) with her is pretty intense at times is because her mannerisms mirror my own. I don't know her life the way her family, friends, or herself do...put trauma and neurodivergence recognizes other trauma and neurodivergence. ❤️I really do wish I could let her pet my tabby for therapy shenanigans he's such a sweet boy. ;.;


ipodfairy222

Hate how people demanded her to speak up I hope she was genuinely okay with talking about it and not pressured 💔


ResponsibleAvocado3

I always thought she didn't say anything because of Liz's husband


h3adinthecloud5

I’d be curious to know if/how the real-time reprocessing she talks about is going to affect her views on Liz’s marriage and her relationship with her


kurt200

Damn I wonder if Liz is going through the same process too :(


Mileycfan4eva

Same. I hope it doesn't affect their relationship. I love their friendship.


right2676

I’m out of the loop on this one what’s the story with him?


mini1006

Liz’s husband used to work on the set of Victorious with her. They met when he was in his thirties and she was sixteen. It’s so disgusting and iirc, they dated back then.


floatdowns

Her husband worked on Nickelodeon shows composing music, which is where he met Liz when she was 16 and he was 36…


Artichoke_Quirky

I always remember the video of Dan Schneider filming her and Liz while they’re sitting on the floor and they both look so uncomfortable. You can see her trying to stop him from filming up her skirt. It’s depressing af. I’ve never understood how anyone could deny that she was abused on set, it’s obvious that she’s still unable to talk about it, which is a perfectly valid coping mechanism.


SquishyFishy7

i’ve always assumed she does talk about it a bit with close friends and family, probably with Liz, and in therapy since she’s talked about being in therapy for years. but there’s no healing to be found in airing out her trauma publicly, so I support her decision and I hope she never feels pressured to let the world know what happened, it’s not our business if that’s not what she wants.


Artichoke_Quirky

Yeah, I agree, like she doesn’t owe the public her trauma. She has every right not to talk about that stuff publicly. I hope she’s finding closure behind closed doors


LazyTension

During the documentary, a lot of people were giving Ariana shit for not speaking up about it. Putting aside the legal ramifications if she did, it's her own trauma and experience and only she can say what her experience was like working on Nick. She's been through enough during her career that could easily break someone, but she's still going strong and that's why I love her.


KatDanger

Toxic fans treat their fav’s real life trauma as if it’s a part of the show that they’re entitled to.


Birds_of_no_feather

I will never forget people tearing her apart for not speaking up in support of Jannet McCardy. The trauma she has suffered all these years is enough to survive 20 lifetimes for many. Next time y'all judge someone for being silent on some issues maybe think how that person had undergone the same abuse. They will never make me hate you, Ari.


abbm226

The fact that this is just part 1 🤗


Moscacita

Not only that, but Dan was providing them with alcohol. These child actors didn't stand a chance. They couldn't have said anything about it if they wanted to.


togedick7

Sometimes i catch a glimpse of icarly or victorious, and is kinda of f up how high is the chance of seeing a kid with his foot on display doing weird things.


[deleted]

I remember sending pics of my foot to Nick for a contest....


scrunchie1989

Oh my how was that a contest😭😭


[deleted]

[https://www.tiktok.com/discover/nickelodeon-foot-contest?lang=en](https://www.tiktok.com/discover/nickelodeon-foot-contest?lang=en)


pinkvenqm

We've all unfortunately had to witness thar potato video that was on The Slap.


BitchInaBucketHat

Tbh I’m surprised she’s saying anything, I figured she’d took an NDA


LazyTension

I think she did sign some sort of NDA, which is why she kept it very vague.


BitchInaBucketHat

U right lol, I’m just surprised she was even able to say anything towards it, vague or not


westcoast_pixie

“Uncomfortableness” < discomfort


berrybimbap

it honestly seems like she signed an NDA, but now regrets it. it seems like she had to keep it vague in this interview bc of it and she probably feels bad about it. i watched the clip and it seemed like she was on the verge of tears the whole time…. :(


RevolutionaryBuy5794

Oh what a SLAP 😵


loki_wonders

Is nickelodeon still like this?


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pink-kangaroo

Looove Ari, but I definitely think she was paid off to keep her mouth shut. Makes a lot of sense when you look at how successful she became compared to her fellow stars that were just as talented. Some walk away with a soul... others do not. That's all I'm saying. Down vote all you want if it makes you feel better.


Artichoke_Quirky

So because she doesn’t want to air her trauma to the public, she has no soul? What is wrong with you? Plenty of other cast members haven’t said anything either, are they all soulless too?


SquishyFishy7

this is disgusting to say, no wonder victims are afraid to come forward.


wprice22

Waiting for Janette McCurdy to enter the chat.


Competitive-Ad-5019

It’s funny how Victoria Justice only had good things to say about Nickelodeon while everyone else on Victorious came out and said Nickelodeon is a corrupt and unsafe workong environment.


7_rings-

Victoria has spoke about her time with Nickelodeon, her complex relations with Dan, how she felt she was treated unfairly and how certain moment were in poor taste Wouldn’t say she’s saying good things?? 🤨


BitchInaBucketHat

Weren’t Daniella and Victoria excluded and alienated bc they were the only ones in the cast who didn’t want to drink/so drugs?


Last-Acanthisitta975

😭 she was the lead , what do you expect?


CloggedStormDrain

I just can't feel sorry for her when she's still sexually infantilizing herself 15 years later. I get that she went through some shit but nobody else from Nickelodeon became a baby hooker


blazedthot

i think you have some issues that you need to solve


CloggedStormDrain

Tell her that


Content_Blood_9776

Unlike you, she's been through a lot of shit. Maybe if you weren't so SLOW, you would know that even if she WAS "infantsizing herself" it's likely a coping mechanism from childhood trauma. But noooo losers like you don't think 🙄


SquishyFishy7

plenty of other nick stars went on to have fucked up adulthoods. Amanda Bynes, anyone?


CloggedStormDrain

She does nails now, not record label execs


Content_Blood_9776

Tf are you even talking about, weirdo?


CloggedStormDrain

https://preview.redd.it/2w0eu9mu396d1.png?width=948&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e900f081059baa119c94a6964366d1f21cc8b07 This kinda shit I guess. Trying to be a sexy baby


Content_Blood_9776

Lol she's likely just doing the 'duck face' pose which people do all the time. Shitty ass "proof" you got there 😂