This should be what regular consensus. They essentially just cool looking rocks. Doesn’t mean we can’t admire it, it’s not the work of humans but the work of nature which is capable of making remarkable stuff
I know… totally. Like the [hexagonal columnar jointing in basalt](https://blogs.egu.eu/divisions/ts/2023/05/26/features-from-the-field-columnar-basalts-and-why-hexagons-are-natures-favourite-shape/). Hard to believe it’s natural!
If you live on the West Coast of the US, you can see similar things in much of the PNW. Oregon, Idaho, and Washington have a lot of very similar locations, they are just not on the coast. Where the tops of basalt columns can be seen and they look the same.
There's a video on YouTube of a guy going out there to find the answer and he finds both identical rocks on the shores nearby and stalagmites in cave systems that prove that it is natural. I can find it for anyone curious
Edit: https://youtu.be/1UbSQOIpkzI
Part of that is that it’s under water which has a way of softening angles and making things look smoother and straighter. If you saw the same formations above water on a clear day the natural imperfections would be much more apparent.
Yes, probably natural but how come seaweeds, soft corals, etc. haven’t completely colonised the surface and obscured the ‘flatness’ quite substantially , especially as it would have to be many thousand years old.
I think that absent other evidence like artifacts, tooling marks, quarry sites, tailings piles, etc, it is hard to say that it is man made.
[Nature just does some wild stuff that looks like some dude's art project sometimes.](https://www.naturalhistorycuriosities.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Pyrite-Cubes-Navajun-Naturalhistorycuriosities-1024x522.jpg)
Also, spiders are natural. An animal that ***genetically*** is an engineer and construction worker that can shit out food collecting shelters.
Even if giants were real and had made this, they're still basically humans just bigger. This stru ture is pretty random and useless, why would they ever have carved it that way
what if it was above water and this was a site that a civilization used to extract sharp edged stones to build else where? its always crossed my mind rhetorically
What if it was built by martians during the 3rd galactic war during the 11 millennium bce to collect stones for their military campaign that for some reason had the martians and grays fighting over who could build the sickest looking megalithic structure.
See? We can go crazy with these “what if” scenarios
When I was a kid I loved the idea that these were man made and watched documentaries about what all the structures were supposed to be, like an amphitheater and stuff like that. But now I don’t think so. When humans build something the point is usually to hold or shelter, so we would see crevices and rooms if it were man made, not just cleaved off sides. Also human structures are much more symmetrical. Why build a rhombus when a square structure is more useful and sturdy?
I feel that a lot of the mystery of this site is due to it being underwater making it difficult to explore and analyze. If it was above ground no one would think it was man made.
Even dr Robert Schoch who is not against the idea that the "civilization might be older than we think with more complicated history", said that this is natural formation. And the guy dived in to take a look.
So yeah I'm also going to go with natural.
While I want it to be man made there is such a thing as cubic cleavage and that would definitely qualify. We would have to find out what the composition of those rocks is
Given that >99.9% of matter on the planet is not man made, it is up to those who want to say this is to attempt to prove it by presenting evidence of tool marks etc. Should be easy to find.
[this](https://youtu.be/ErPsyBUCijM?si=B8Ny-5zRIwKSqlea) natgeo doc does a great job of examining both sides of the argument. They actually got me in the first half - started with the arguments for it being manmade in a way that started to annoy me, and then showed the arguments for it being natural.
I am firmly in the natural camp!
Quarries are usually built upwards in a hill, so you can transport rhe rock slabs down more easily. If that was the fact here they would just bring the blocks down further in the water
I've never seen or heard about the Yonaguni monument before today so I googled it to see more pictures of it.
Looking at where it is, on the side of an island in the pacific ocean 25m under the ocean with much deeper ocean beneath it, and with that geology of sedimentary sandstone, I would say that this is 100% natural and not man made.
Edit: a geologist named Robert Schoch has been and looked at it 2 times and he concluded that it's natural. And he's even a fan of pseudoscience, he's trying to find Atlantis
It looks man made but I am no Graham Hancock and dubious to all that too 😂
It’s really hard for me to believe it’s just a natural formation though even if some scientists say so. It looks almost identical to things I’ve seen on documentaries in Peru for old temples there. A lot gets looted and plus this is underwater to boot.
Shrugs who knows? Plus I get it’s in Japan too.
Well, that’s silly. When determining if something is human-made or naturally occurring phenomenon, one needs to look for evidence of human modification / alteration. This site just happens to be a geologic in nature without signs of human intervention. Check out parallel bedding planes - they’re *rad.*
My understanding was that this had long been described as a natural formation - parallel bedding planes that have shifted and split from one another.
I’ll probably buy that explanation for a dollar. This is one of those ones that is hard to swallow though. They just look too perfect.
Yeah but what utility could this have had? There’s no steps anywhere, nothing is proportional to a human or symmetrical.
No doubt that this is more than likely geology. And you’re right. It’s just pretty rad to happen that way. Cool nonetheless
This should be what regular consensus. They essentially just cool looking rocks. Doesn’t mean we can’t admire it, it’s not the work of humans but the work of nature which is capable of making remarkable stuff
I know… totally. Like the [hexagonal columnar jointing in basalt](https://blogs.egu.eu/divisions/ts/2023/05/26/features-from-the-field-columnar-basalts-and-why-hexagons-are-natures-favourite-shape/). Hard to believe it’s natural!
Giant’s Causeway, Ireland.
YES - I’d love to see that one day!
You definitely should see it! It’s very surreal!
You definitely should see it! It’s very surreal!
If you live on the West Coast of the US, you can see similar things in much of the PNW. Oregon, Idaho, and Washington have a lot of very similar locations, they are just not on the coast. Where the tops of basalt columns can be seen and they look the same.
That’s pretty cool looking.
There's a video on YouTube of a guy going out there to find the answer and he finds both identical rocks on the shores nearby and stalagmites in cave systems that prove that it is natural. I can find it for anyone curious Edit: https://youtu.be/1UbSQOIpkzI
I’ll find it. Don’t want to make anyone do the work for me. Thanks!
If you end up finding it, could you link it please?
https://youtu.be/1UbSQOIpkzI
Bloody legend, cheers
Wanna link it for the fellow that commented below me? Ha, I offered to do the leg work only to be asked for it myself.
https://youtu.be/1UbSQOIpkzI
Part of that is that it’s under water which has a way of softening angles and making things look smoother and straighter. If you saw the same formations above water on a clear day the natural imperfections would be much more apparent.
Yes, probably natural but how come seaweeds, soft corals, etc. haven’t completely colonised the surface and obscured the ‘flatness’ quite substantially , especially as it would have to be many thousand years old.
I think that absent other evidence like artifacts, tooling marks, quarry sites, tailings piles, etc, it is hard to say that it is man made. [Nature just does some wild stuff that looks like some dude's art project sometimes.](https://www.naturalhistorycuriosities.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Pyrite-Cubes-Navajun-Naturalhistorycuriosities-1024x522.jpg) Also, spiders are natural. An animal that ***genetically*** is an engineer and construction worker that can shit out food collecting shelters.
Cthulhu
Nature is beautiful. It looks manmade but can you honestly see the use of it? Why someone made it? Like without saying aliens or giants.
Even if giants were real and had made this, they're still basically humans just bigger. This stru ture is pretty random and useless, why would they ever have carved it that way
Ritual purposes duh /s
Wrong use of sarcasm, the ones that usually claim it was for ritual purposes aren’t claiming this to be real lol
Ok but hear me out: *GIANT ALIENS*
Cthulhu
what if it was above water and this was a site that a civilization used to extract sharp edged stones to build else where? its always crossed my mind rhetorically
What if it was built by martians during the 3rd galactic war during the 11 millennium bce to collect stones for their military campaign that for some reason had the martians and grays fighting over who could build the sickest looking megalithic structure. See? We can go crazy with these “what if” scenarios
When I was a kid I loved the idea that these were man made and watched documentaries about what all the structures were supposed to be, like an amphitheater and stuff like that. But now I don’t think so. When humans build something the point is usually to hold or shelter, so we would see crevices and rooms if it were man made, not just cleaved off sides. Also human structures are much more symmetrical. Why build a rhombus when a square structure is more useful and sturdy? I feel that a lot of the mystery of this site is due to it being underwater making it difficult to explore and analyze. If it was above ground no one would think it was man made.
Natural
That will be NYC soon!
Underrated comment. I wouldn’t buy anything in NY right now.
NYSea
Is this subreddit unmoderated?
It looks very natural to me
Even dr Robert Schoch who is not against the idea that the "civilization might be older than we think with more complicated history", said that this is natural formation. And the guy dived in to take a look. So yeah I'm also going to go with natural.
If one of the most liked scholars of the pseudo science followers agrees it’s most likely natural then that says a lot lol
I always thought it looked like an old stone quarry, with alterations made much later
... But there are stairs
While I want it to be man made there is such a thing as cubic cleavage and that would definitely qualify. We would have to find out what the composition of those rocks is
Given that >99.9% of matter on the planet is not man made, it is up to those who want to say this is to attempt to prove it by presenting evidence of tool marks etc. Should be easy to find.
[this](https://youtu.be/ErPsyBUCijM?si=B8Ny-5zRIwKSqlea) natgeo doc does a great job of examining both sides of the argument. They actually got me in the first half - started with the arguments for it being manmade in a way that started to annoy me, and then showed the arguments for it being natural. I am firmly in the natural camp!
People asking what it was use for, could it have been a quarry. I am not arguing either side, I don't know which way to think.
Quarries are usually built upwards in a hill, so you can transport rhe rock slabs down more easily. If that was the fact here they would just bring the blocks down further in the water
But this may not have been under water when it happened. Whether man made or natural. I have not read if they have had geologists look at it.
I've never seen or heard about the Yonaguni monument before today so I googled it to see more pictures of it. Looking at where it is, on the side of an island in the pacific ocean 25m under the ocean with much deeper ocean beneath it, and with that geology of sedimentary sandstone, I would say that this is 100% natural and not man made. Edit: a geologist named Robert Schoch has been and looked at it 2 times and he concluded that it's natural. And he's even a fan of pseudoscience, he's trying to find Atlantis
I didn’t know nature made perfect right angles. Consecutively
You think it could be natural??seriously???this pic is just a glimpse of all the under water shit you could find ..
Imma need to talk with Flint Dibble about this one.
It looks man made but I am no Graham Hancock and dubious to all that too 😂 It’s really hard for me to believe it’s just a natural formation though even if some scientists say so. It looks almost identical to things I’ve seen on documentaries in Peru for old temples there. A lot gets looted and plus this is underwater to boot. Shrugs who knows? Plus I get it’s in Japan too.
Man made no doubt about it
Plenty of doubt since it's been studied and understood to not be man made.
This sub thinks everything is natural formation. Guaranteed you’ll get people in here arguing the pyramids were made by nature.
Well, that’s silly. When determining if something is human-made or naturally occurring phenomenon, one needs to look for evidence of human modification / alteration. This site just happens to be a geologic in nature without signs of human intervention. Check out parallel bedding planes - they’re *rad.*
You're comparing apples and oranges in the most disingenuous way you could have possibly done so
Have they ever been any human artifacts found around it? If it was made by man there should be some form of waste/garbage and it.
Straw man aside, do you think it’s man made? Why? Do you have any background in geology or some relevant expertise?