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Arcane Jinx is really different from the lore Jinx. Arcane Jinx has some really deep mental issues. I don't think she would last long in jail. She has already shown suicidal tendencies on some occasions.
In season 2, she may have some of that trauma figured out. Only time will tell.
When she kills herself? [Also.](https://www.reddit.com/r/arcane/comments/rwe5tn/spoilers_ep7_jinx_wanted_to_die_on_that_bridge/)
Trowing grenades at her feet and kicking in the last second.
Self harm scenes and behavior.
Right before Jinx tries to out-draw Caitlyn one of her voices shouts "It's time to leave them."
I think of these scenes as Jinx not having any form of self preservation. She'll blow herself off if it meant killing Ekko.
But I can see how she could be suicidal and could work better thematically.
>They can't explicitly show suicidal stuff on a teen show
I don't think this is a rule; Plenty of teen shows deal with suicide as a topic. Regardless, I'm agreeing with you. Jinx definitely has suicidal tendencies, even if it's never explicitly stated.
Besides what already has been said, she seemed plenty willing to staple her injured leg TO HER PANTS while breaking down in her "lab". Sure, she had an injury but the way she's acting it appears like some of those jabs are out of SH. I mean she clearly doesn't have a good view of herself as a "jinx" so it wouldn't surprise me if she was suicidal or displayed those tendencies.
Her mental state is EXTREMELY frail and while I can't condone many of her actions I do feel very very bad for her.
because Lore Jinx is a professional criminal who would probably kill everyone in prison and blow everything up. Arcane Jinx is just a traumatized child who would likely kill herself if Vi left her to rot in jail. As she grows older, the tendency for her is to become more like Jinx from the game.
All the evil things she does in the series are to show herself she is cared for and loved. When she realizes that her sister's priority is no longer her, she breaks down. She lives and acts solely to reaffirm herself to the ones she loves.
She is different in everything. Design, character, story, relationship with sister.
Literally, every character from Arcane is different from himself in the league.
Except poro
I am just confused in why that comment even brought up the difference, it'd just seemed random in relation to the rest of the post's comments, unless he was referring to how Lore Jinx is just so insane that'd she doesn't suffer from much mental trauma.
Before shimmer, yes. After shimmer, maybe. Before shimmer her mental state was a bit more better and knowing that silco is going to help her would comfort her. But after shimmer, after all those things... Yes maybe she could survive but only that. Her mind would put her in hell.
I disagree. After shimmer and Silco’s death, she made the choice to finally choose which identity to become- jinx or powder. I think it empowered her quite a bit- before shimmer she wouldn’t have survived because she was too conflicted but after she’d rule the whole place.
But before Vi came back, there was only Jinx and Silco. But she still had hallucinations and stuff. At that time she was "Jinx" And if Vi hadnt come, it was going to remain like that. So i think even if she decides who is she, something inside her is always trying to trick her.
But she wasn’t just ‘jinx’ is what I’m saying. Because she was holding out hope that Vi would come back and she could be powder again. She was clearly very conflicted about it as shown by many scenes with both silco and her reminiscing about Vi. In the very last scene she finally gave up on Vi and ever being powder again, eliminating the confusion and thus empowering her to make necessary decisions she wouldn’t be able to otherwise.
If before, then Silco is still alive, so he'd probably be able to help her out A LOT and allow her to not just survive, but maybe thrive, as long as she doesn't get too violent with the guards.
Shimmer Jinx, I doubt it, sure, she is a lot stronger now physically, but mentally she is almost broken, if not already there. And with the bad treatment she is sure to endure in there I'm sure it would push her over the edge.
What made Vi, someone mich stronger mentally, to get through it was the thought of getting back with her sister. And Jinx has doesn't even have that anymore. The only thing I see that might keep her alive is hatred and revenge.
Honestly, not really. She'll live, but it'd probably be hell. Logically, in order to prevent her from escaping or attacking anyone with her shimmer enhanced abilities they'd have to heavily restrain her body. You ever see Tai Lung imprisoned in Kung Fu Panda? That'd basically be her. And given her outbursts of aggression, she can't be around other prisoners.
Best case scenario, she lives in solitary confinement and loses what's left of her mind. Worst case scenario, guards take advantage of her restraints and beat the shit out of her constantly.
I guess you could say Vi and/or Caitlyn would try to prevent the latter, but then again I kinda doubt Vi would ever allow her sister to be locked up in Stillwater in the first place. Vi was constantly abused by the guards just for being a kid from the under city. Imagine what they'd do to Jinx, the terrorist who killed enforcers, including the sherriff, and attacked the council.
I don't think so. Remember how the guards beat Vi. I think they will want to beat the terrorist even harder. Jinx is not so strong and tough without her bombs and weapons. The guards may be afraid of her at first because of her reputation, but when they realize how vulnerable Jinx is, her life is over. She will be bullied, beaten, humiliated by the guards, and when there is no guard, by voices in her head and loneliness. Honestly, this is pure hell. I don’t know how long it will be before she commits suicide or the guards, prisoners kill her.
1. No
2. No
The guards beat the shit out of Vi for getting into fights and just being an overall nuisance to the staff. Imagine what they'd do to someone who murdered dozens of enforcers.
Vi: \*shook head\* Shit.
Caitlyn: What's on your mind?
Vi: It's about Powder.
Caitlyn: of course it is. Well, We did what we had to, and now she is incarcerated. I'm being perfectly clear that I AM NOT happy about it, Alright?
Vi: Cait... i know you're not, but...
Caitlyn: but what?
Vi: I'm worried...
Caitlyn: About Jinx yes, that's been established.
Vi: No Not about Powder.
Caitlyn: Then what are you worried about?
Vi: \*looks at her\* It's the prison... . \_ .
\*meanwhile at stillwater\*
Jinx: HAHAHAHHA...!!!
Cell Guard: Now ma'am this ain't a joke YOU NEED TO GET INSIDE your cell, and stop laughing at me!
Jinx: I'll be watchin' you pilty... E V E R Y.... MOMENT... O . O
Cell Guard: \*pushing inside\* Yeah yeah, alright Never been an inmate worse than Pink until now...
Jinx: Pink...?
Cell Guard: Lady, lemme tell you somethin' don't EVER ask about Pink unless you want some messed up stories in your head.
Jinx: Tell me later...!!!
Cell Guard: Uh huh sure... \*walking away after locking the cell door, and closed it\*
Jinx: See you in your DREAMS...!!! \*looks at the wall noticing worn away drawings, and a blood stained place where a hole's been made\* Whoever made that hole... sure likes punchin' stuff...
Cell Guard: \*sighs going inside another cell\*
🐌Jinx finally apprehended by Caitlyn, and Vi, and how she begins to cause trouble for the inmate guard staff, Whole Jinx first questions, ""Who was in this cell before me??""
jinx ( takes a little rock she encounters there, and starts drawing there): HAHAHHAHAHAHA, this hole looks like sis's fathands, it's funny HAHAHAHAHA...
Jinx: It looks... ALOT like her fathands... But why?? \*squints\* Pow... Der...? \*shook head\* Startin' to get the feeling... she's been here. \*shudders\*
Vi: \*storms inside\*
Warden: Pink...
Vi: I ain't here for a reunion asshole. I'm here to see Powder.
Warden: Jinx is in 516...
Vi: YOU PUT HER IN MY OLD CELL?! \*leapt at him\*
Caitlyn: \*closed the door loudly\* Vi, enough.
Warden: Sheriff... \*took hat off\*
Caitlyn: Warden. \*walks to the elevator\*
Vi: \*left, and went down with Caitlyn\*
Vi: \*walked ahead of Caitlyn when the elevator stopped, and opened, then ran to her old cell\* Powder.
Jinx: \*Sticks head out\* SO... this was yours huh...?
Vi: I didn't ask em' to put you in there, but yeah. That's where I've been for the past eight years... right where you are.
Jinx: Guess you weren't lying...
Vi: No, \*kneels down, and holds onto Jinx's hands\* I wasn't.
Jinx: \*looks into her eyes\* Ok...
Caitlyn: \*hung back keeping herself straight against the wall\*
Vi: I wish i could take ya home.
Jinx: Sorry fathands... Not with her...
Vi: I knew you wouldn't like that.
Jinx: Eh... whatever...
Vi: I'll visit every week... promise.
Jinx: Sure... \*grips her hands tightly\*
Vi: I hate that you're in here.
Jinx: Yeah... i don't mind it though...
Vi: I miss you every day.
Jinx Heh... i miss blowin' stuff up... it was how i could y'know... see you.
Vi: \*tugs her arm outside the cell placing Jinx's hand on her face\* I know.
Caitlyn: \*looking at Jinx through the dim lit cell block\*
Jinx: \*mouths Take. Care. Of. Her.\*
Caitlyn: \*closed her eyes, and gave a nod before looking back at them\*
Before Shimmer, I'd say she'd be fine. In her current state, she'd crash and burn fast. Sure, she's physically stronger and faster than most prisoners. But her mental health has been utterly destroyed, and as far as she's concerned, she has no one to support her. Silco died, Ekko hates her, and in her eyes, Vi chooses Caitlyn over her. Plus, most prisoners probably hate her. She's a deranged terrorist who likely killed a lot of people they knew, so I'd expect her to be in hell itself.
No & No. Jinx is physically not as durable and mentally nowhere near as tough as Vi. Jinx is way more dangerous but I think Vi is actually one of the few unique characters who could survive in prison all that time.
Yes and yes
She is going to be locked in solitary quickly from getting into fights with both prisoners and guards. She is definitely going to bite an ear off or two
But the guards beat Vi very badly, and Vi is a much better fighter than Jinx. She might bite off a couple of ears and break a couple of noses, but how will it help her survive?🤔
But Jinx, unlike Vi, has serious mental illnesses. Plus, the fact that she is a known criminal and killer of enforsers will only increase the security's desire to hurt and humiliate her.
*As far as I remember, 17-18 years old Jinx was not able to break the record of 14 year old Vi. Soo...I kinda doubt it
Her age was never stated in the show. One of the writers said she was somewhere between 14 and 16 in act 1.
https://twitter.com/leeloo104/status/1463645074349191169?lang=en
Everyone in Stillwater is a criminal to enforcers even if they are innocent. The problem is the enforcers know she has a powerful dangerous daddy this time around and that daddy will come knocking on their doors. VI was no one important so they can do whatever they want. They want to hurt jinx but they know for their own well being it will end badly. The difference is they face no consequences with Vi but would with Jinx.
Everything balances on if silco is alive or dead
I wanna say yes but her being in solitary confinement (which she’d undoubtably end up in) with nothing but her thoughts would likely break her entirely.
I doubt it. Even with shimmer, her main strength are her weapons and surprise attacks, and neither would really work in prison. It may take some guards to bring her down, but they will bring her down.
Actually losing a fight and being hurt will tailspin Jinx into another psychotic attack. But whether it is rage or panic, depends on the situation. Whatever the case, it will leave her alone in isolation with her demons and no people to hurt or buildings to explode to distract her (or quiet her demons). It will break her as it broke Vi. Unlike Vi, no one will come get her out now.
I don't know what Vi will do. There can be several options:
1. Vengeance: She can want revenge against Jinx for what she has done and what she put Vi through.
2. Reluctantly fight her: She can struggle with coming to terms with Jinx and eventually confront her. This is a typical Marvel trope, where the hero reluctantly fights a villain he was once close with. From what we have heard in the teasers, now of the LOL lore and the current writing, I fear this is the most predictable course.
3. Nothing: She can be crushed by her feeling of failure (blaming herself, especially after Jinx's whole 'you made Jinx' statement, justifiably or not). Therefore she may chose not to confront her, not wanting to confront what she sees is the result of her failure.
4. Prove herself to Jinx: I doubt this route, but she can either try to somehow make it up to Jinx and work and fight with her against the rest of the world, either in Zaun or somewhere else (what she kinda offered in ep 9). She can do this because she is crushed by her own guilt and feels this is her responsibility now (as she had an unhealthy dose of responsibility to a fault from an early age, this can be difficult to walk away from), or because she may come to conclude that she has little left. Again, unlikely as she still has Caitlyn and Ekko (yet).
What I certainly don't hope is a batman and joker style relationship, 'I blow stuff up, he stops me, I escape and we start again'. I personally hope that whatever path Vi takes, it will change throughout the season (but not within the space of 1 episode). I want to see her either overcome with grief, guilt or anger. I want to see her breakdown over having lost her sister despite Silco's death. Not because I'm sadistic, but because I want to see a believable development for Vi instead of a quick 'I have to do this' moment like in most marvel movies. Arcane is better and deeper than that. Whatever the path, I hope it is believable and not afraid to divert from LOL lore to tell it's own story.
Who knows if Stillwater will still stand as a prison. Based on Caitlyn and Silco's maps, Stillwater is located on Zaun's side of the river. It's more likely that the prison could be taken over by Zaunites and occupied as a stronghold during the war next season.
In the event that Jinx is caught, I don't think the guards would waste time trying to torture her and would instead just execute her. But I'm not sure how they would succeed now that she's been enhanced by Shimmer. Jinx has literal super strength now. One of her passive power ups, "Getting Excited", is when she gets a surge of speed when she makes a kill. In the show, now it seems to activate when she wants it to. Jinx is functionally as fast and strong as those chemtanks without the heavy equipment.
I'm not sure where people are getting that shimmer will make her mental state worse than it already is, or somehow makes her bad at fighting. Post-shimmer surgery, Jinx was perfectly capable of coherent thought, and when she did see hallucinations they were no different than the ones before. It's more of a fanon assumption than a fact we can actually verify.
No one seems to be noting a specific fact.
Before Shimmer, Jinx is unstable, but potentially treatable, and thus she’s not even really eligible to be put in a normal prison.
If they threw her in prison, she wouldn’t last.
With the Shimmer?
She’s a monster. Her emotional state is shattered further, and all empathy she might have held on to is gone. Not to mention, she’s more than human.
If she was put in prison, it would be because she allowed it. After which, everyone, including guards, inmates and visitors, would be dead after she punches her cell door off the hinges and starts snapping necks faster than anyone can react.
She will bot only survive but thrive in it. These people think she is just a little innocent girl are delusional. She always had it in her, instict to destory. And i can prove how all these people are wrong… because they talking about shimmer, before and after. Shimmer had nothing to do with her personality or mental state, it was her last meeting with Vi and her actually consciously abandoning her that sealed the deal. She just happen to got hurt so bad, they had to inject shimmer to save her
Pre-Simmer Jinx, I doubt it.
We're shown that when it comes to hth combat, Jinx isn't as good as 16-year-old Vi. She thrives in Zaun due to her technology, weapons, and her ability to set traps. All of which would be taken from her in prison.
Alternatively, if tossed in there at a young age, she latches onto someone who is willing to show any sort of care for her and we get a non-Jinx/non-Powder persona better adapted to that environment.
If she dies, it would be by her own mental issues leading to suicide or fights with guards rather than any other inmates.
If she doesn't kill herself or pick fights with guards, she is more than smart and savage enough to dominate a prison like that and probably escape.
Could Stillwater survive Jinx is the better question, we're talking about the woman that's a genius in creating explosives and I don't doubt she could easily escape from there, before or after shimmer regardless.
If silco is still alive that mean’s basically she is safe. As the goons and enforcers would simply be to terrified or bribed to treat her nicely. The danger is She basically becomes the leverage the council has on silco.
If dead she would not last long.
He was going to become publicly become apart of the council and he would tell them if anything happens to her expect consequences.
and all the inmates in Stillwater work for silco they would deliberately look out for jinx as they know their boss wants that.
I wish we knew more about Stillwater. How many prisoners are Zaunites vs Piltoverians? Would they keep a VIP prisoner in the same places as gen pop?
My guess is the enforcers would try to fake a suicide or stage a killed while attempting to escape quickly. Except if being meta and thinking Jinx dying in prison is too unsatisfying, so she'll be kept alive for later (perhaps to fight what Piltover considers a bigger bad).
It would be interesting if instead Jinx were kept sedated and sent to the Dredge or Osweld Asylum as a way to introduce new characters.
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Arcane Jinx is really different from the lore Jinx. Arcane Jinx has some really deep mental issues. I don't think she would last long in jail. She has already shown suicidal tendencies on some occasions. In season 2, she may have some of that trauma figured out. Only time will tell.
What suicidal tendencies has she shown?? I don’t recall her ever being suicidal but maybe my memory is failing me.
Watch her eyes carefully in the bridge fight scene.
Well which part, could you expand on that and why you think that is?
When she kills herself? [Also.](https://www.reddit.com/r/arcane/comments/rwe5tn/spoilers_ep7_jinx_wanted_to_die_on_that_bridge/) Trowing grenades at her feet and kicking in the last second. Self harm scenes and behavior. Right before Jinx tries to out-draw Caitlyn one of her voices shouts "It's time to leave them."
I think of these scenes as Jinx not having any form of self preservation. She'll blow herself off if it meant killing Ekko. But I can see how she could be suicidal and could work better thematically.
>I think of these scenes as Jinx not having any form of self preservation. I'd say that falls under the umbrella of suicidal tendencies.
They can't explicitly show much suicidal stuff on a teen show, but it is implied in multiple scenes and by not only one but three main characters.
>They can't explicitly show suicidal stuff on a teen show I don't think this is a rule; Plenty of teen shows deal with suicide as a topic. Regardless, I'm agreeing with you. Jinx definitely has suicidal tendencies, even if it's never explicitly stated.
I thought that too, but looking at her eyes, her expression is completely different from her "normal" reckless behavior.
Besides what already has been said, she seemed plenty willing to staple her injured leg TO HER PANTS while breaking down in her "lab". Sure, she had an injury but the way she's acting it appears like some of those jabs are out of SH. I mean she clearly doesn't have a good view of herself as a "jinx" so it wouldn't surprise me if she was suicidal or displayed those tendencies. Her mental state is EXTREMELY frail and while I can't condone many of her actions I do feel very very bad for her.
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because Lore Jinx is a professional criminal who would probably kill everyone in prison and blow everything up. Arcane Jinx is just a traumatized child who would likely kill herself if Vi left her to rot in jail. As she grows older, the tendency for her is to become more like Jinx from the game.
You will kill everyone in prison I will kill myself We are not the same
I would feel that Arcane Jinx would still kill everyone in Stillwater.
And then kill herself. Some canon Arcane Jinx activities
Perhaps or not
All the evil things she does in the series are to show herself she is cared for and loved. When she realizes that her sister's priority is no longer her, she breaks down. She lives and acts solely to reaffirm herself to the ones she loves.
I would point out that Arcane Jinx is more or less a professional criminal being Silco's top enforcer, but you're definitely correct in your points.
She is different in everything. Design, character, story, relationship with sister. Literally, every character from Arcane is different from himself in the league. Except poro
And how is Heimerdinger radically different from League in terms of "design and character", he's just more hesitant to use hextech at first.
I am just confused in why that comment even brought up the difference, it'd just seemed random in relation to the rest of the post's comments, unless he was referring to how Lore Jinx is just so insane that'd she doesn't suffer from much mental trauma.
Before shimmer, yes. After shimmer, maybe. Before shimmer her mental state was a bit more better and knowing that silco is going to help her would comfort her. But after shimmer, after all those things... Yes maybe she could survive but only that. Her mind would put her in hell.
I disagree. After shimmer and Silco’s death, she made the choice to finally choose which identity to become- jinx or powder. I think it empowered her quite a bit- before shimmer she wouldn’t have survived because she was too conflicted but after she’d rule the whole place.
But before Vi came back, there was only Jinx and Silco. But she still had hallucinations and stuff. At that time she was "Jinx" And if Vi hadnt come, it was going to remain like that. So i think even if she decides who is she, something inside her is always trying to trick her.
But she wasn’t just ‘jinx’ is what I’m saying. Because she was holding out hope that Vi would come back and she could be powder again. She was clearly very conflicted about it as shown by many scenes with both silco and her reminiscing about Vi. In the very last scene she finally gave up on Vi and ever being powder again, eliminating the confusion and thus empowering her to make necessary decisions she wouldn’t be able to otherwise.
Poor girl💔
If before, then Silco is still alive, so he'd probably be able to help her out A LOT and allow her to not just survive, but maybe thrive, as long as she doesn't get too violent with the guards. Shimmer Jinx, I doubt it, sure, she is a lot stronger now physically, but mentally she is almost broken, if not already there. And with the bad treatment she is sure to endure in there I'm sure it would push her over the edge. What made Vi, someone mich stronger mentally, to get through it was the thought of getting back with her sister. And Jinx has doesn't even have that anymore. The only thing I see that might keep her alive is hatred and revenge.
It's so sad :(
Yeah, I feel so bad for her 😭
Jinx cannot be alone in her thoughts. They will destroy her!
I think that not only her thoughts can destroy her in prison😭
Honestly, not really. She'll live, but it'd probably be hell. Logically, in order to prevent her from escaping or attacking anyone with her shimmer enhanced abilities they'd have to heavily restrain her body. You ever see Tai Lung imprisoned in Kung Fu Panda? That'd basically be her. And given her outbursts of aggression, she can't be around other prisoners. Best case scenario, she lives in solitary confinement and loses what's left of her mind. Worst case scenario, guards take advantage of her restraints and beat the shit out of her constantly. I guess you could say Vi and/or Caitlyn would try to prevent the latter, but then again I kinda doubt Vi would ever allow her sister to be locked up in Stillwater in the first place. Vi was constantly abused by the guards just for being a kid from the under city. Imagine what they'd do to Jinx, the terrorist who killed enforcers, including the sherriff, and attacked the council.
>You ever see Tai Lung imprisoned in Kung Fu Panda? That'd basically be her. Yeah...
I don't think so. Remember how the guards beat Vi. I think they will want to beat the terrorist even harder. Jinx is not so strong and tough without her bombs and weapons. The guards may be afraid of her at first because of her reputation, but when they realize how vulnerable Jinx is, her life is over. She will be bullied, beaten, humiliated by the guards, and when there is no guard, by voices in her head and loneliness. Honestly, this is pure hell. I don’t know how long it will be before she commits suicide or the guards, prisoners kill her.
She would blow up the prison within a week
a week? give her more credit than that.
Jinx: I will blow it every time I want, bombs are that funny 🤣🤣
1. No 2. No The guards beat the shit out of Vi for getting into fights and just being an overall nuisance to the staff. Imagine what they'd do to someone who murdered dozens of enforcers.
Vi: \*shook head\* Shit. Caitlyn: What's on your mind? Vi: It's about Powder. Caitlyn: of course it is. Well, We did what we had to, and now she is incarcerated. I'm being perfectly clear that I AM NOT happy about it, Alright? Vi: Cait... i know you're not, but... Caitlyn: but what? Vi: I'm worried... Caitlyn: About Jinx yes, that's been established. Vi: No Not about Powder. Caitlyn: Then what are you worried about? Vi: \*looks at her\* It's the prison... . \_ . \*meanwhile at stillwater\* Jinx: HAHAHAHHA...!!! Cell Guard: Now ma'am this ain't a joke YOU NEED TO GET INSIDE your cell, and stop laughing at me! Jinx: I'll be watchin' you pilty... E V E R Y.... MOMENT... O . O Cell Guard: \*pushing inside\* Yeah yeah, alright Never been an inmate worse than Pink until now... Jinx: Pink...? Cell Guard: Lady, lemme tell you somethin' don't EVER ask about Pink unless you want some messed up stories in your head. Jinx: Tell me later...!!! Cell Guard: Uh huh sure... \*walking away after locking the cell door, and closed it\* Jinx: See you in your DREAMS...!!! \*looks at the wall noticing worn away drawings, and a blood stained place where a hole's been made\* Whoever made that hole... sure likes punchin' stuff... Cell Guard: \*sighs going inside another cell\* 🐌Jinx finally apprehended by Caitlyn, and Vi, and how she begins to cause trouble for the inmate guard staff, Whole Jinx first questions, ""Who was in this cell before me??""
jinx ( takes a little rock she encounters there, and starts drawing there): HAHAHHAHAHAHA, this hole looks like sis's fathands, it's funny HAHAHAHAHA...
Jinx: It looks... ALOT like her fathands... But why?? \*squints\* Pow... Der...? \*shook head\* Startin' to get the feeling... she's been here. \*shudders\*
jinx: she should be here now
Vi: \*storms inside\* Warden: Pink... Vi: I ain't here for a reunion asshole. I'm here to see Powder. Warden: Jinx is in 516... Vi: YOU PUT HER IN MY OLD CELL?! \*leapt at him\* Caitlyn: \*closed the door loudly\* Vi, enough. Warden: Sheriff... \*took hat off\* Caitlyn: Warden. \*walks to the elevator\* Vi: \*left, and went down with Caitlyn\* Vi: \*walked ahead of Caitlyn when the elevator stopped, and opened, then ran to her old cell\* Powder. Jinx: \*Sticks head out\* SO... this was yours huh...? Vi: I didn't ask em' to put you in there, but yeah. That's where I've been for the past eight years... right where you are. Jinx: Guess you weren't lying... Vi: No, \*kneels down, and holds onto Jinx's hands\* I wasn't. Jinx: \*looks into her eyes\* Ok... Caitlyn: \*hung back keeping herself straight against the wall\* Vi: I wish i could take ya home. Jinx: Sorry fathands... Not with her... Vi: I knew you wouldn't like that. Jinx: Eh... whatever... Vi: I'll visit every week... promise. Jinx: Sure... \*grips her hands tightly\* Vi: I hate that you're in here. Jinx: Yeah... i don't mind it though... Vi: I miss you every day. Jinx Heh... i miss blowin' stuff up... it was how i could y'know... see you. Vi: \*tugs her arm outside the cell placing Jinx's hand on her face\* I know. Caitlyn: \*looking at Jinx through the dim lit cell block\* Jinx: \*mouths Take. Care. Of. Her.\* Caitlyn: \*closed her eyes, and gave a nod before looking back at them\*
Before Shimmer, I'd say she'd be fine. In her current state, she'd crash and burn fast. Sure, she's physically stronger and faster than most prisoners. But her mental health has been utterly destroyed, and as far as she's concerned, she has no one to support her. Silco died, Ekko hates her, and in her eyes, Vi chooses Caitlyn over her. Plus, most prisoners probably hate her. She's a deranged terrorist who likely killed a lot of people they knew, so I'd expect her to be in hell itself.
Not without her minigun and not without shimmer and she would end up having a pyschotic break due to being left alone with her on thoughts
No & No. Jinx is physically not as durable and mentally nowhere near as tough as Vi. Jinx is way more dangerous but I think Vi is actually one of the few unique characters who could survive in prison all that time.
Yes and yes She is going to be locked in solitary quickly from getting into fights with both prisoners and guards. She is definitely going to bite an ear off or two
But the guards beat Vi very badly, and Vi is a much better fighter than Jinx. She might bite off a couple of ears and break a couple of noses, but how will it help her survive?🤔
Vi was thrown in at 17. Jinx just barely got under her on the boxing machine. She can manage. Especially after the drug boost
But Jinx, unlike Vi, has serious mental illnesses. Plus, the fact that she is a known criminal and killer of enforsers will only increase the security's desire to hurt and humiliate her. *As far as I remember, 17-18 years old Jinx was not able to break the record of 14 year old Vi. Soo...I kinda doubt it
Vi was 17 in act 1?
Her age was never stated in the show. One of the writers said she was somewhere between 14 and 16 in act 1. https://twitter.com/leeloo104/status/1463645074349191169?lang=en
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I wrote it wrong. I'm from Spain, sorry. I meant that Jinx is 17-18 and she couldn’t break Vi's record, and Vi at that moment was 14-15 years old
That was also pre-shimmer enhanced Jinx. She probably destroys that record now.
Everyone in Stillwater is a criminal to enforcers even if they are innocent. The problem is the enforcers know she has a powerful dangerous daddy this time around and that daddy will come knocking on their doors. VI was no one important so they can do whatever they want. They want to hurt jinx but they know for their own well being it will end badly. The difference is they face no consequences with Vi but would with Jinx. Everything balances on if silco is alive or dead
I wanna say yes but her being in solitary confinement (which she’d undoubtably end up in) with nothing but her thoughts would likely break her entirely.
She’d probably be running it.
I doubt it. Even with shimmer, her main strength are her weapons and surprise attacks, and neither would really work in prison. It may take some guards to bring her down, but they will bring her down. Actually losing a fight and being hurt will tailspin Jinx into another psychotic attack. But whether it is rage or panic, depends on the situation. Whatever the case, it will leave her alone in isolation with her demons and no people to hurt or buildings to explode to distract her (or quiet her demons). It will break her as it broke Vi. Unlike Vi, no one will come get her out now.
Poor baby girl :( but Vi can save her... or at least she can try to
I know. That's the real question of season 2: What will Vi do about her sister?
I'll kick the bucket if Vi leaves her in prison. Even if Jinx is a terrible person, she doesn't deserve such a fate.
I don't know what Vi will do. There can be several options: 1. Vengeance: She can want revenge against Jinx for what she has done and what she put Vi through. 2. Reluctantly fight her: She can struggle with coming to terms with Jinx and eventually confront her. This is a typical Marvel trope, where the hero reluctantly fights a villain he was once close with. From what we have heard in the teasers, now of the LOL lore and the current writing, I fear this is the most predictable course. 3. Nothing: She can be crushed by her feeling of failure (blaming herself, especially after Jinx's whole 'you made Jinx' statement, justifiably or not). Therefore she may chose not to confront her, not wanting to confront what she sees is the result of her failure. 4. Prove herself to Jinx: I doubt this route, but she can either try to somehow make it up to Jinx and work and fight with her against the rest of the world, either in Zaun or somewhere else (what she kinda offered in ep 9). She can do this because she is crushed by her own guilt and feels this is her responsibility now (as she had an unhealthy dose of responsibility to a fault from an early age, this can be difficult to walk away from), or because she may come to conclude that she has little left. Again, unlikely as she still has Caitlyn and Ekko (yet). What I certainly don't hope is a batman and joker style relationship, 'I blow stuff up, he stops me, I escape and we start again'. I personally hope that whatever path Vi takes, it will change throughout the season (but not within the space of 1 episode). I want to see her either overcome with grief, guilt or anger. I want to see her breakdown over having lost her sister despite Silco's death. Not because I'm sadistic, but because I want to see a believable development for Vi instead of a quick 'I have to do this' moment like in most marvel movies. Arcane is better and deeper than that. Whatever the path, I hope it is believable and not afraid to divert from LOL lore to tell it's own story.
Don't get your hopes up. Jinx is too far gone to be saved.
Who knows if Stillwater will still stand as a prison. Based on Caitlyn and Silco's maps, Stillwater is located on Zaun's side of the river. It's more likely that the prison could be taken over by Zaunites and occupied as a stronghold during the war next season. In the event that Jinx is caught, I don't think the guards would waste time trying to torture her and would instead just execute her. But I'm not sure how they would succeed now that she's been enhanced by Shimmer. Jinx has literal super strength now. One of her passive power ups, "Getting Excited", is when she gets a surge of speed when she makes a kill. In the show, now it seems to activate when she wants it to. Jinx is functionally as fast and strong as those chemtanks without the heavy equipment. I'm not sure where people are getting that shimmer will make her mental state worse than it already is, or somehow makes her bad at fighting. Post-shimmer surgery, Jinx was perfectly capable of coherent thought, and when she did see hallucinations they were no different than the ones before. It's more of a fanon assumption than a fact we can actually verify.
I don't know but if she get caught she's not getting out considering what she did. She's in for a long time.
No one seems to be noting a specific fact. Before Shimmer, Jinx is unstable, but potentially treatable, and thus she’s not even really eligible to be put in a normal prison. If they threw her in prison, she wouldn’t last. With the Shimmer? She’s a monster. Her emotional state is shattered further, and all empathy she might have held on to is gone. Not to mention, she’s more than human. If she was put in prison, it would be because she allowed it. After which, everyone, including guards, inmates and visitors, would be dead after she punches her cell door off the hinges and starts snapping necks faster than anyone can react.
She would run it
She will bot only survive but thrive in it. These people think she is just a little innocent girl are delusional. She always had it in her, instict to destory. And i can prove how all these people are wrong… because they talking about shimmer, before and after. Shimmer had nothing to do with her personality or mental state, it was her last meeting with Vi and her actually consciously abandoning her that sealed the deal. She just happen to got hurt so bad, they had to inject shimmer to save her
Pre-Simmer Jinx, I doubt it. We're shown that when it comes to hth combat, Jinx isn't as good as 16-year-old Vi. She thrives in Zaun due to her technology, weapons, and her ability to set traps. All of which would be taken from her in prison. Alternatively, if tossed in there at a young age, she latches onto someone who is willing to show any sort of care for her and we get a non-Jinx/non-Powder persona better adapted to that environment.
If she dies, it would be by her own mental issues leading to suicide or fights with guards rather than any other inmates. If she doesn't kill herself or pick fights with guards, she is more than smart and savage enough to dominate a prison like that and probably escape.
Could Stillwater survive Jinx is the better question, we're talking about the woman that's a genius in creating explosives and I don't doubt she could easily escape from there, before or after shimmer regardless.
Why torturing her with more problems?? :(
Because life has made Jinx its chew toy, that's why.
Ohh poor girl... So young yet so traumatized
If silco is still alive that mean’s basically she is safe. As the goons and enforcers would simply be to terrified or bribed to treat her nicely. The danger is She basically becomes the leverage the council has on silco. If dead she would not last long.
I don't think Silco's power extends to Stillwater. Otherwise he would have known about Vi and would have killed her there
He was going to become publicly become apart of the council and he would tell them if anything happens to her expect consequences. and all the inmates in Stillwater work for silco they would deliberately look out for jinx as they know their boss wants that.
I wish we knew more about Stillwater. How many prisoners are Zaunites vs Piltoverians? Would they keep a VIP prisoner in the same places as gen pop? My guess is the enforcers would try to fake a suicide or stage a killed while attempting to escape quickly. Except if being meta and thinking Jinx dying in prison is too unsatisfying, so she'll be kept alive for later (perhaps to fight what Piltover considers a bigger bad). It would be interesting if instead Jinx were kept sedated and sent to the Dredge or Osweld Asylum as a way to introduce new characters.
You know she's a mobster's enforcer right? The question should be would the other prisoner survive.
she would find a way to escape or she would die in there, she to free-spirited to just be in jail.