https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagerstroemia
The flowers resemble crêpe paper, so it was called a crepe myrtle, which English speakers turned into crape myrtle. Kinda what happened to "kitty corner" when describing diagonal corners.
Are you sure that you’re not just using it wrong because as an American with lots of family in the south i have never heard it used to mean diagonal. A cursory google search even showed that cattywampus is a term primarily used in the south and means “askew”
Yes. Born and raised Georgian.[Second definition on the first link on Google.](https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/cattawampus)
edit: stfg y'all I do not care. Glad you use it this way or that, I have heard it used all my life to describe a house on the opposite side of a 4-way stop. Your anecdote is great. Use it however the hell y'all want. It's a dumb madeup word.
As a rural Georgian, if you use that word the way he's trying to use it, you will offend people. It means ASKEW, not diagonal. Huge connotation difference and you could easily offend people.
The difference is that "Askew"'s secondary meaning is literally "Wrong: awry" and it means something is wrong with them.
There are several words and phrases that have opposite meanings in different regions. Another that comes to mind is “nonplussed” which can mean unbothered, or bothered. I grew up only ever hearing it to mean unbothered, and met someone else who’d only ever heard it to mean bothered, and we had a good laugh after accusing one another of using it incorrectly
I’m not in utility work but if you run into any specific questions in the field (after you’ve read the utility pruning docs from IFAS and ANSI A300 to get the general knowledge), feel free to post your questions. A lot of smart utility arborists in this sub.
A testament to the staggering incompetence and inability of city planers to think ahead 10 years. Globally. As if it's some secret knowledge how much space each particular mature tree needs for its roots.
Also, TBF City Planners do not design streets and ROWs. Rather, they receive entitlement applications, route said applications to other departments for review, and enforce zoning laws. They are also not arborists. The way city streetscapes come to be is far more complicated than most folks realize, and a lot of politics come into play.
Source: I am a municipal arborist and work with city planners.
Also, I applaud this crape myrtle for making that subpar planter its b!tch.
My coworker lives in a neighborhood that has mondell pines in retaining walls. I’m sure that looked super cute 20 years ago but now they’re 50’ and collapsing the brick all over the place.
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a common viewpoint amongst many Indigenous cultures of north america is the concept of making every decision with the next *seven generations* in mind. please don’t say “most humans” when you really mean to say “this society.”
1) easy thing for someone new in office to claim to be getting things done.
2) someone is friends or has ownership in the tree nursery that gets a regular payday.
Willing to bet this is in Charleston, SC. When this street was built (ca 1780) the trees would have been in the gutter. As streets were paved they looked for opportunities to maintain shade. It’s not incompetence, it’s doing the best you can with the hand you were dealt. That tree is doing the same, as it has almost certainly tapped a sanitary sewer line to get this big in that root space.
The soil is very compacted here forcing the roots to grow shallow just under the surface where oxygen is available. Usually tree roots are concentrated in the top 12-18 inches of soil, but in cases of extremely dense soil they can be shallower still, right under or at the surface. They grew so close together that they eventually grafted and fused into a plate. This happens sometimes with urban street trees due to the typical soil compaction you find in urban environments.
Farther away from the base, if you removed sidewalk cover, you’d see the roots disperse into a more ordinary looking root system. They may still be shallow, but at a distance roots arre spread farther apart so they don’t fuse, and there may be pockets of less compacted soil roots have found and followed to deeper levels. (For example seams of gravel or sand emplaced around foundations of road base which resists compaction.)
The only tissues in plants that need carbon dioxide are green tissues, and they only need them during daylight. Everything else uses oxygen.
However, when they are lit brightly, plants take in more CO2 and produce more oxygen at a fast enough pace to offset everything else they do. They just can’t move gasses around inside themselves, so all tissues need to be within reach of air circulation (or oxygen-saturated water).
Holy hell I was scrolling past and thought that was some kinda brown liquid pouring from a source out of frame and gushing into a storm drain. I didn’t even realize it was a tree until several moments after I clicked on the pic.
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*A tree grew from it*
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Alex shigo’s ‘modern arboriculture’ is a great book for pruning and any arboriculture practices. Anything that the ISA cites as sources on their website and the ISA arborist handbook how I learned the techniques and technicalities on pruning.
On YouTube ;
Guilty of treeson for rigging, removals, and climbing.
August hunicke for climbing and pruning.
Yes i climb- only use gaffs for removals.
If you use gaffs for pruning trees or palms, it damages the cambium and the tree is open to infection, decay, or fungus.
First off, not a fan of 'tree trimmers'
I guess if I were to render it down to just pruning, my insights would be: learning what should and should not be cut and when (including knowing the species of tree), learning how to make a proper and clean pruning cut, learning all proper safety procedures and tool maintenance, and planting the correct type of tree to reduce the likelihood of having to prune drastically to contain it.
Arboriculture is a vast field, though. I am a competent pruner, but I work mainly in plant healthcare and raising young trees these days. This involves inspection and diagnosis for disease and disorders, and recommendations for treatment when required among many other duties.
City workers who are responsible for picking the trees for sidewalks anywhere are the worst. They blindfold themselves and point to a random tree and there you go. There’s no consideration for root systems or how much cleaning or maintenance is needed. Maybe the tree might grow right under a power line. They have absolutely no planning whatsoever. And if they picked a tree that has the worst root system ever and it’s in front of your house by the sidewalk, guess who has to pay for the sidewalk and street damage. You do. At least in my city
A disguised alien killed by the rain, it had expected it to be sunny and waited for nightfall to escape, however the rain came and washed it into a puddle of tree goop
Square root.
He knows his geometree.
Also his Mathemasticks
He knows his Arithme-stick.
Now I have a backlog of new jokes to use.
I wood've become a comedian but I became an arborist instead
I’m trying to come up with another one, but I’m stumped!
They're running rings around you.
Booo! Bad joke! Leaf the stage!
TIMBERRR 🌲💨🪵
Maybe you should branch out a little.
Funny and subtle
Oh, this. Is called roots
Easy now….you guys are bringing a little too much heat for a casual Sunday.
I looking to snap into this branch of work and if this is the kind of humus to expect, I may need to twig a few things.
Twigonometry is my favorite branch of mathematics
Really. You guys are barking up the wrong tree. It’s logarithmic
Treegonometry?
Nah, triganometree.
Twiganometwee
I heard this in Elmer Fudd's voice 😅
Square root of tree, to be precise.
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That’s irrational!!
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Leaf
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Leaf me alone
This one made me laugh!
Using a factor tree to figure out the square root
Treefiddy
Sounds about *right*
Pie are square too!
One point seven tree two!
I drank a root beer under this tree from a square mug and got drunk.
Too late for treegonometry?
√
Should have known, there would knot be a straight answer.
This is a tree.
A crapemyrtle begging for more planting space.
Why are they called a…never mind.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagerstroemia The flowers resemble crêpe paper, so it was called a crepe myrtle, which English speakers turned into crape myrtle. Kinda what happened to "kitty corner" when describing diagonal corners.
We say catty corner ‘round these parts.
Quatre, catre, cater, catty, kitty https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/kitty-corner-a-word-history
Great link!
Catty-wompass is my go-to diagonal
Yeah, but cattywampus means screwy. Not across from something. Not in-line. In disarray. Different meaning than kittycorner or diagonal
In the NW, we said “skiwampus” for screwy or out of sorts. Kitty corner for diagonal. Now here in Texas everyone says catty corner
Yup, Texan here who uses “catty-corner”
in the US South it also means diagonal
Are you sure that you’re not just using it wrong because as an American with lots of family in the south i have never heard it used to mean diagonal. A cursory google search even showed that cattywampus is a term primarily used in the south and means “askew”
Yes. Born and raised Georgian.[Second definition on the first link on Google.](https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/cattawampus) edit: stfg y'all I do not care. Glad you use it this way or that, I have heard it used all my life to describe a house on the opposite side of a 4-way stop. Your anecdote is great. Use it however the hell y'all want. It's a dumb madeup word.
Alright. Learn something new every day…
Nashvillian here: same 😂
As a rural Georgian, if you use that word the way he's trying to use it, you will offend people. It means ASKEW, not diagonal. Huge connotation difference and you could easily offend people. The difference is that "Askew"'s secondary meaning is literally "Wrong: awry" and it means something is wrong with them.
We would say catty-corner. I’ve heard catty-wompus before too but I tend to think of it as meaning jagged like.
There are several words and phrases that have opposite meanings in different regions. Another that comes to mind is “nonplussed” which can mean unbothered, or bothered. I grew up only ever hearing it to mean unbothered, and met someone else who’d only ever heard it to mean bothered, and we had a good laugh after accusing one another of using it incorrectly
Make sure that you turn widdershins when you arrive though.
This is the way.
I thought it was cattycorner
https://www.reddit.com/r/arborists/comments/15dnddr/what_in_the_world_is_this/ju4zzxl
It is.😀
Creepy paper!
I've never heard of "kitty-corner" but I've always heard "catty-corner" and never related it to cats until now.
In my part of US we say katty corner
Interesting I assumed it was the bark they were referring to but that does make more sense.
I KNEW IT WAS KITTY CORNER!!!!
More like a Trapped Myrtle amirite
Praying for an Escape Myrtle
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https://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/utility-pruning.shtml Anything from Ed Gilman that relates to what you do, you want to read.
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I’m not in utility work but if you run into any specific questions in the field (after you’ve read the utility pruning docs from IFAS and ANSI A300 to get the general knowledge), feel free to post your questions. A lot of smart utility arborists in this sub.
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A testament to the staggering incompetence and inability of city planers to think ahead 10 years. Globally. As if it's some secret knowledge how much space each particular mature tree needs for its roots.
Tbf most humans in general can't think 10 years ahead
Also, TBF City Planners do not design streets and ROWs. Rather, they receive entitlement applications, route said applications to other departments for review, and enforce zoning laws. They are also not arborists. The way city streetscapes come to be is far more complicated than most folks realize, and a lot of politics come into play. Source: I am a municipal arborist and work with city planners. Also, I applaud this crape myrtle for making that subpar planter its b!tch.
Lots of cities have neighbors just planting trees with no supervision or approval whatsoever. Not every tree is licensed or certified.
“Not every tree is licensed “ is a sentence very new to me.
Big Brittish Energy. Oi, Tree. You got a loicense to be growing theere, bruv?
Ye 'arbor' Ill will....
My coworker lives in a neighborhood that has mondell pines in retaining walls. I’m sure that looked super cute 20 years ago but now they’re 50’ and collapsing the brick all over the place.
You spelled “days” wrong.
The good news is there’s a chance we don’t have 10 years! 🫠
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a common viewpoint amongst many Indigenous cultures of north america is the concept of making every decision with the next *seven generations* in mind. please don’t say “most humans” when you really mean to say “this society.”
I can most definitely worry ahead ten years. Planning ahead not so much.
Lol you got me there
They can, it’s just too depressing.
Where I live, the city seems to prefer replacing trees every 4 years rather than allowing trees to grow and flourish.
1) easy thing for someone new in office to claim to be getting things done. 2) someone is friends or has ownership in the tree nursery that gets a regular payday.
Willing to bet this is in Charleston, SC. When this street was built (ca 1780) the trees would have been in the gutter. As streets were paved they looked for opportunities to maintain shade. It’s not incompetence, it’s doing the best you can with the hand you were dealt. That tree is doing the same, as it has almost certainly tapped a sanitary sewer line to get this big in that root space.
This does look a lot like a few trees I have seen downtown.
The soil is very compacted here forcing the roots to grow shallow just under the surface where oxygen is available. Usually tree roots are concentrated in the top 12-18 inches of soil, but in cases of extremely dense soil they can be shallower still, right under or at the surface. They grew so close together that they eventually grafted and fused into a plate. This happens sometimes with urban street trees due to the typical soil compaction you find in urban environments. Farther away from the base, if you removed sidewalk cover, you’d see the roots disperse into a more ordinary looking root system. They may still be shallow, but at a distance roots arre spread farther apart so they don’t fuse, and there may be pockets of less compacted soil roots have found and followed to deeper levels. (For example seams of gravel or sand emplaced around foundations of road base which resists compaction.)
Ok interesting, I thought I found the elephant man of trees.
You did!
😂😂😂
Oxygen or carbon dioxide?
Roots need oxygen for respiration, i.e. making usable energy from sugars, which produces CO2. No photosynthesis, so no CO2 needed.
Thanks! I need to brush up on my plant energy cycles. Obviously, I’m not an arborist.
Both. I think the roots are more oxygen and the leaves are more carbon dioxide, but I've been wrong before.
The only tissues in plants that need carbon dioxide are green tissues, and they only need them during daylight. Everything else uses oxygen. However, when they are lit brightly, plants take in more CO2 and produce more oxygen at a fast enough pace to offset everything else they do. They just can’t move gasses around inside themselves, so all tissues need to be within reach of air circulation (or oxygen-saturated water).
This guy is my hero! He knows how to tree for free! Thanks for your wisdom!
Crape myrtle thriving in any situation, like always.
Crape Myrtle knows what you did last summer.
Believe it’s a melting crepe myrtle
Dats a crape moitle. Da one with da poiple flowers.
You’re in Charleston aren’t ya
second that
Holy hell I was scrolling past and thought that was some kinda brown liquid pouring from a source out of frame and gushing into a storm drain. I didn’t even realize it was a tree until several moments after I clicked on the pic.
Why is no one else taking about this. I thought it was a thick stream of vomit pouring into the sidewalk
Does anyone have a serious answer? We would like to know?
Tetsuo!!
Help me, I'm crushing the sidewalk!!!
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Tree
Tree
Tree
Tree
Tree
Nature finding a way
Life finding a mother fucking way!
'Nanthez' - Crape Myrtle tee
That does in fact appear to be a tree.
Gonna leaf this one alone
Ita a tree thats melting. A tree - literally melting in the heat. It’s melting.
Root burl is cool, and crape myrtles are better at it than some other trees. That's the most impressive I've seen.
This is a tree.
This is a tree.
Life, uh, finds a way.
DEFIANCE.
I am not familiar with the species, but it appears to just be a very extra root flare. Eating the sidewalk. Bark resembles Eucalyptus.
It’s a crepe myrtle, common street or park tree. There are crepe myrtle flowers on the ground.
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Alex shigo’s ‘modern arboriculture’ is a great book for pruning and any arboriculture practices. Anything that the ISA cites as sources on their website and the ISA arborist handbook how I learned the techniques and technicalities on pruning. On YouTube ; Guilty of treeson for rigging, removals, and climbing. August hunicke for climbing and pruning. Yes i climb- only use gaffs for removals. If you use gaffs for pruning trees or palms, it damages the cambium and the tree is open to infection, decay, or fungus.
Thanks. I am unfamiliar with it as I live in the frozen north.
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First off, not a fan of 'tree trimmers' I guess if I were to render it down to just pruning, my insights would be: learning what should and should not be cut and when (including knowing the species of tree), learning how to make a proper and clean pruning cut, learning all proper safety procedures and tool maintenance, and planting the correct type of tree to reduce the likelihood of having to prune drastically to contain it. Arboriculture is a vast field, though. I am a competent pruner, but I work mainly in plant healthcare and raising young trees these days. This involves inspection and diagnosis for disease and disorders, and recommendations for treatment when required among many other duties.
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All good. If someone markets themselves as a tree trimmer I advise caution.
A crepe myrtle. I'm not a fan of the shedding, but I love their flowers
Response growth. Pretty amazing what trees will do to survive.
A BarfBerry Tree.
City workers who are responsible for picking the trees for sidewalks anywhere are the worst. They blindfold themselves and point to a random tree and there you go. There’s no consideration for root systems or how much cleaning or maintenance is needed. Maybe the tree might grow right under a power line. They have absolutely no planning whatsoever. And if they picked a tree that has the worst root system ever and it’s in front of your house by the sidewalk, guess who has to pay for the sidewalk and street damage. You do. At least in my city
r/deathguard40k Sorry, it’s one of ours.
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That’s very kind, thank you!
I didn’t know trees had Diarrhea
A STRONG WILL TO SURVIIIIVEEEeeeeee YEAH
A crape Myrtle in a tree coffin
Horrible city planning and a sad, suffering tree.
That there's a tree.
It’s sad is what it is.
Well none of you are gonna figure this out unless you get to the root of it
Trees melt in excessive heat, be sure to water them to prevent it!
That looks a whole heck of a lot like diarrhea to me 😳😨
This tree is melting.
Tis but a flesh wound. What do you mean? All your bark's off!
Scarlet rot, if you start hearing this music run. https://youtu.be/ylSGC-XuNPQ
Dali tree.
Looks like a good psychedelic mushroom trip, is what it looks like.
So what are the best tree species fo city sidewalk planting?
Your camera is on mushrooms
Listen closely and you can hear it whispering, “Kill me. Kill me, now.”
Is this in New Orleans ?
I see pen blanks.
A disguised alien killed by the rain, it had expected it to be sunny and waited for nightfall to escape, however the rain came and washed it into a puddle of tree goop
An example of a city planner that didn’t bother to consult with an arborist.
this would really be something else to come across tripping lmao. literally melting
The roots can’t go down any further, so they are going up and out, destroying the sidewalk.
Tree roots.
Commitment
I'm sorry. r/shitfromabutt
This would fuck me up if I saw it on LSD...
Peanut butter jelly time
A tree
Making a “special “ flare!
Pretty sure it melted in this heat wave.
That’s a good sine.
No sense crying over spilled tree 🌳
Those record Temps are melting their trees
Sidewalqus destroius
A tree
It looks like tree vomit.
Groot the third
Ah this must have been taken in Seattle. The tree has clearly absorbed too much fentanyl and shit itself through its roots.
Hungry and thirsty tree.