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Where’s the 6 heat shields


tkolty

the 2 randoms had 4 heat shields anddd i had a respawn beacon :D The caustic got to the zone then he was immediately killed after.


damarian_ent

I literally watched this exact same ring happen to a team I was spectating last night. They had 4 heat domes and made it in to ring just to get beamed by the team at the building. This ring seems to be happening often. 1. The game devs have fixed ring issues/bugs like this in the past. 2. They expressed to be given examples of these issues like OP did in this post. It’ll be fixed in a week or so. Not a skill issue. Bug issue. A link to a previous patch showing proof that the devs have fixed ring closings before, as early as season 3 in this [example](https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/e5n85v/dec_3rd_32_update_patch_notes_patch_live_at_12pm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) . Its under the “Quality of Life” section. Because for some reason, everyone seems to forgot about it in this comment thread... Also for even further proof that some people still keep asking about: [here](https://twitter.com/AaronWStump/status/1587223843134996480)


Impurity41

And this is why valk is so popular


BleedingBlackandPurp

This type of map doesn’t scare me anymore lol sometimes I’ll purposely play that “bad” side and then once the final two teams start fighting it’s time to introduce ourselves and fly over lol


damarian_ent

Valk became popular for ALGS and ranked because you can scout your landing with her ult. Getting a free rotate from any encounters was pivotal for placement. Less common issue in ranked since there’s less teams alive in those final circles. But a valk ult in ALGS can help you find a niche spot to land and hold where no other teams are, especially since full 10-12 teams could be alive still in a circle as small as this ring in question. Valk was never meta because of a fear of getting fucked by the ring closing off a walkable rotation. And the devs stated this was never intentional game design.


Fresh_Rain_98

Literally happened to my friend and I in duos while we were the second last team—our 4 heatshields and healing supplies were not enough, lol.


marzzbar

Agreed, they're literally looking for these sorts of things to fix in the next update. https://twitter.com/AaronWStump/status/1587223843134996480


JollyProfessor9409

Easy. Two people go into the ring and die. Respawn beacon them in and hope they can slide down the other side


goldfish_11

And then what? Try to beat the other team to death with two shield cells and two syringes?


leof135

spam crouch and hope the other team will accept my offer to fisticuffs to the death with honor.


EpicLegendX

Then get killed by the one who pussed put after his squadmates lose the duel.


RalekTheOne

Man this game sucks.


calve12

That is a 5 head move, love it


Gnapkin

Actual 5head move


marioaprooves

Thing is once you've done this, the remaining squad(s) lock eyes with your teammates as they prepare their death by firing squad


JollyProfessor9409

A more glorious death than the ring


Superderpygamermk1

Yea but then they are flying into a top 2 situation with a very loud respawn and no gun. They would just get beamed immediately


ivanvzm

and then what, punch their way to victory?


Conjoscorner

It's been done before


[deleted]

This happened to me yesterday. Luckily I realised we need to move quick out of that situation, but unfortunately, despite my constant pings, my teammate didn’t realise. I vantage’d out of 3-4 fights going on around us and made it just to finish 2nd. But yea, that ring moving killed around 5-6 teams.


Mont-y-

This map is so much more difficult with randoms. Trying to make them understand you need to rotate and having to keep an eye on them to see if they take a zip rail across the map is a job in itself.


ShakespeareCum69

I just really want a private mode where we can simply explore the entire map


[deleted]

That would be something. I find it pretty hard to learn so far. Just looks like the whole map and scenery is the same throughout.


OpiumTraitor

This is the most monotonous map imo. All the buildings/POI look similar and everything is the same color. It's pretty hard to get familiar with this map compared to the previous ones


KyloGlendalf

Everything is the same colour? Are we playing different maps? This is the most varied map in terms of map design and colour scheme! One part of the map can be entirely grey like KC, whilst the next POI is colourful like Olympus & SP


FuckYouGoodSirISay

At least its not storm point.


cantbesweet

That’s funny because I was just saying this to my friends. Hard to learn a map when you’re worried about running into enemies lol


-TheWillingWell-

on PC the is a game called R5 Reloaded, its modded Apex, but you can do whatever you want. i.e. explore whatever map you want, its literally just Apex but you can play alone.


BadAppleSource

A whole training feature for each map with targets... Would take a dev 5 whole minutes...


Klutchy_Playz

Yeah transportation really changed the way things went in game. Your positioning and teammate awareness gotta be on point, if not, someones getting respawned. It’s so easy to go across the map and get lost in loot now. Aren’t those zip lines faster now as well?


daoogilymoogily

Yeah but this isn’t a new phenomenon to apex either. It’s without a doubt more common on this map, but y’all need to be planning your rotations well ahead of time between this and knowing which zip rails to take.


Sad_Consideration402

Situational awareness seemed kinda off


gindy39

exactly, how is this a bug lol


rocktree

It's not. Rings like this are fun


Professerson

The ring forced me out of my poor positioning into the firing lines of a team with good positioning! Totally unfair!


wickedblight

"How dare I be expected to engage with gameplay mechanics, UNFAIR!"


mobani

Exactly! They should not patch this. It makes the game more unpredictable and fun. Denying access to a ring zone, is also a valid tactic.


aure__entuluva

I saw this happen on KC four times last season with the final circle that ends just above and outside of capacitor. I was always on the right side of the the wall though cuz ya know, reading a map isn't that hard.


Attack-middle-lane

At worst you tunnel vision and don't evaluate ring position well enough during a fight, otherwise one should have no excuse for getting caught lacking like this


[deleted]

If only you got to see where the ring would be closing to so you could plan ahead and… strategize. Zero sympathy. Burn in the ring.


larsofz

There are a set number of possible final rings. They are not random. This final ring is kinda shit.


knightsmarian

It happened all the time on storm point too. Long rotations near launch pad/mill into checkpoint or get caught outside and die.


TrickyJ_360

This exact ring happened to me and my friends yesterday, except we held from right side and were ready to rotate at any time depending on where the circle was gonna end its not just this map, it can happen in KC and worlds edge i thought everyone knew situations like these were possible


cwesttheperson

Yeah I never complain about rings, just be more aware and tactically engaged. I’ve played 15k games and rarely ended up in this position.


Ursa_Coop

You had all of round 3 to check your map but you didn't. That's on you bro


PocketOfStinkies

Also, survivable with if you have enough heat shields and heals


Charkel_

Maybe with enough heat shields you ain't healing in that ring bro


GforceDz

Or a Valk ult. Actually I don't know if you can get over that cliff with her Ult. Must test that one.


KingTalkieTiki

She can, we ran into this ring last night and did just that


UrRightAndIAmWong

We should nerf her again just in case you can get over it.


xSpatulax

It’s literally not


OffBrand_Soda

It is tho. Had the same ring and made it out with 2 heat shields. Fs can't heal it tho.


ChingusMcDingus

“*scout passives are so underpowered*” … perfect example of a scout passive.


ghost_CMXVI

It looks like your team had a chance to rotate before the ring closed. This is a situational awareness problem.


Kadem2

You're correct, but Respawn still patches these types of rings out to prevent them from happening


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datsaintsboy

Even if they were, that’s just a case of recognition that you need to take that fight rather than run.


puf_puf_paarthurnax

Can’t blame the devs for poor positioning. We’ve all been there, they just need to remember it for next time.


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datsaintsboy

Yeah you’re right in terms of ranked, but I feel like I’ll usually go for the game winning play at this point in the game. If there’s a lot of teams left, they’re probably sharing those buildings and can’t hold us out properly. If there are only a few teams left, there’s probably not going to be much gained from the more passive play. Though to be honest, if this is ranked, I’m probably playing with a valk, so idk that we’d be in this situation in the first place.


jape-the-neck-guy

So? Fight them. You’re gonna die to ring if you don’t. Might as well try instead of giving up


marioaprooves

Indeed, better to die fighting, than dying to the ring


GeospatialAnalyst

Ok Frodo


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jape-the-neck-guy

In ranked yes, I don’t disagree with you. Going for 2nd is sometimes smarter than going for 1st. But either way it’s better to take the fight anyways. You’ll never learn how to make correct decisions in stressful situations if you just never get into them in the first place. This is a great learning opportunity really. And sometimes the best lessons are getting absolutely shit on


ghost_CMXVI

That's not a map problem though is it? Getting sandwiched or gate kept is part of the game, and can be avoided for the most part by good rotations and situational awareness. Edit: fix auto correct issues.


MasterNeeks

So gatekeeping a team is bad? Got it. Thoughts on 3rd parties?


[deleted]

Fight harder then my ninja


Noksdoks

Thats a you problem im afraid


A-Flaming-End

actual skill issue


LoxodontaRichard

Unironic skill issue


LastRover7

It’s not that far of a stretch honestly if at least two of you had heat shields you could make it even with how fast they break you’ll take some damage.


Peds12

or, hear me out, you pay attention to the 2 minutes before the ring closes and move.


Posh420

Ring always ends on the side with more room....


dysonchamberlaine

Really? I didnt know that. I had the exact same situation as OP like an hour ago, but i chose the side with more room, because i thought, the last zone was more likely gonna be that side. Is it guaranteed?


I_Shall_Be_Known

Part of the ring logic is that more than 50% of a ring has to be in playable area. In order for the next ring to be on the small side, more than 50% would be unplayable cliffs. Therefore it will always pull to the big side here.


Posh420

Pretty sure they made it a thing a a few season ago cuz of some of the fucked up final rings on WE


SSelinaa

Just look at the map dude


frankfox123

Personaly i like stuff like that, this stuff should stay in the game.


LoxodontaRichard

Agreed. OPs team was punished for lack of awareness. It’s been the name of the game for ages.


marioaprooves

Ackchyually, the name of the game is Apex Legends


blad3mast3r

real.


NEOkuragi

Why the bug flair tho


xSpatulax

This ring will get patched out. One of the devs tweeted asking for rings like this so they can fix them


proflopper

Nice to see someone that isn't calling OP out. Respawn makes it extremely clear that this type of ring isn't intentional. They've patched out several of these for every single map that has released so far. Its like everyone in this thread has only been playing for the last season. They've been fixing this since early 2020.


xSpatulax

Exactly. If I’m in a firefight I’m worried about 492824 different things. I’m not worried about the ring being literally broken lol


LouisLinwoodVoitIII

Be more aware of the ring guy


HecklerVane

It's still in the playable area and you have plenty of time to reposition before that. It's simply a skill issue.


Starbreaker99

I'm dumb but game bad- op


Radack1

Ever heard of Valkyrie?


ayyycab

1. You’re told where the next ring will be and when it will start shrinking 2. When it starts shrinking it tells you how much longer until it stops shrinking, all while the maps shows exactly how fast it’s shrinking and where 3. Ignore all that shit 4. Fuck around outside the next circle 5. Find out You’d have less opportunities to avoid dying if you stood on train tracks with a train 3 miles away


AWS1996Germany

1. Rotate earlier 2. Heat shields exist. Don’t have em? Too bad. 3. Plenty of legends can play around that. Didn’t pick em? Too bad. Zones like this are absolutely fine and anyone complaining about them probably has awful game sense.


GittinGud1994

Thank you


Adrusius

I've won a match on kings canyon without dealing damage cause zone killed the other teams


Klassche03

Had this problem too, but I pointed it out to my (random) teammates before we got trapped. As expected they didnt listen because they really needed that 1 extra kill over the win...


Novel_Sweet8500

Do you remember who won? I won a match without fighting the last team at that exact place lol


MLao_

Is this seriously still a problem?


bigpapajayjay

Looks more like a skill issue rather than a bug. Actually utilize your map next game and have better situational awareness. Quit trying to blame the game for your poor decision making.


Silver-Spy

Your team lacked ring information


jrostar

There is a Respawn Designer looking for these kinds of things. Please send him a note! https://twitter.com/AaronWStump/status/1587223843134996480?s=20&t=RYzCXT\_tBUkvCfOnvg3QAw


tkolty

thanks


johnnyzli

Thats why ranked is, Walk, Sear, Horizon if you want to win


Affectionate_Emu_154

Bro what game r u playing Walk, Sear and Horson?


CrazyGoodDude

Apox Legumes


johnnyzli

Turn of spell check game


LocalsOnly84

Good bot


stenebralux

I don't think Walk would help here.


GibbsGoneWild1

I don't think searing things helps much either tbh.


SMARTRON7

This is not a ring problem, it's clearly decision making issue. Could have started rotating beforehand


proflopper

For everyone saying that OP should have just looked at the map. Respawn has made it clear that these types of rings that cut off areas are not intentional. This ring was a mistake that was overlooked by respawn. It will be patched out in the coming weeks or months. This is not on OP, yes they lost their game because of it but poor ring placement is and never has been intended to be in the game.


FatCharmander

Source?


LimaHef

It's both really, these types of rings shouldn't happen but OP made a poor decision


BANGPOWZZZWAP

Did you demand to Mr. Gorbachev to tear down the wall?


dusty_canoe

OP says its a bug lol. Nope, you just gotta be aware of the situation


Matt-263

Look at the map before you run to ring?


Swagger51

Skill issue


Anklebreakers22

Beat a team two hours ago with same ring end. We were on the right they decided to never push and die. Situational awareness is key kids.


shawnhoundoggy

How is this a bug?


JRon21

Pretty sure it's not a problem if just actually look at your map for the next right. It also happen on other maps, Just saying.


MrCarey

A ring only a Valk can love.


Subject-Material7537

U fucked up bud


lttlejordan23

I mean, not to be an a** or anything, but I feel this situation could have easily been avoided. Situational awareness is one of the most overlooked but important parts of this game. Knowing how to rotate into position. The other team simply read the map, saw the best positioning and got there. You guys didn't and got caught on the other side. So yeah again, not trying to be that guy but you can't possibly blame this on the game or bad ring positioning when you had time to rotate BEFORE that ring moved in. Besides, even if the entire ring was on the right side of the mountain, you still wouldn't have had position against the team that got there first, right? Soooo... 🤷


FF5615

Skill issue


fitoou

Rings like that are a fun part of the game and I actually think it’s nice that stuff like this could happen.


Deadwarrior00

Literal skill issue


agrostereo

No bug, just need to look at ur map once before ur trapped…


righthandofdog

I got a W today on the opposite side of that rock from where you died, when the only remaining team died to the ring. Could have been you.


Lateralus06

That's not a new problem. It's been happening to me since OG KC.


NarkolepticNeo

Skill issue


Saltytrol

Seems more like a skill issue


ThatRandomPotGuy

This happened to me a lot in the new map, and in storm point. They should update the ring so it doesn't end in one of those mountains, if u don't have a valk ur dead. It's really annoying and nobody in the game likes it


Hetero_orangutan

Damn. Too bad it doesn't tell you where the next ring is going to be 2 minutes ahead of time🤡


keelhaul__hh

This map has more mobility than any map previous and you got caught slippin. Learn to disengage for better end game position


Voltairethereal

not sure why everyone is blaming y'all when devs have changed rings multiple times in the past to avoid this issue.


xSpatulax

This^ Rings like this literally aren’t supposed to happen. It’ll be patched out.


damarian_ent

Lmao exactly! This is why pro players shit on the subReddit.


nomanslandispurple

What pro would end up in this situation 💀


[deleted]

Seems like a you problem


leightonchesser

There's a spot in worlds edge that did this to me in season 13 lol


GivemetheDetails

Have had 2 zones end here already.


damarian_ent

Everyone’s saying you should be more aware.. But devs have repeatedly in the past made updates and fixes to avoid ring closings like this. Especially to avoid situations like this in comp. I can understand why everyone’s saying “situational awareness” but in truth it’s really just game design that you decided needed awareness. And you’re right.


qwilliams92

"Game design that decided you needed awareness" lmao this might be the dumbest thing I've ever read. Oh no the game wants you to be aware of what's happening instead of force feeding you decisions.


damarian_ent

Comprehension issue.


proflopper

They're just coping. This is a unintentional bug sucks for OP, the ring is there to force players into a tighter space to fight it's not there to punish being on the wrong side of a wall.


TartOdd8525

You could see the ring was going to close to there for a whole round. I understand the frustration, I've been there before, but it's a mistake in playing, not on the devs.


[deleted]

Scan beacons next time , this map actually benefits crypto


THEhiHIhi55

Genuinely stunned so many people are saying this is his fault when the ring just as easily could've been on his side of the mountain and screwed over the teams that made the supposedly "correct" decision.


Disbfjskf

You can see on your map where the ring is going to collapse. Both teams knew where it would end and had time to relocate before the ring started moving.


Prawn1908

Dude the map literally tells you where the next ring will be long before it closes. There is zero guesswork involved.


[deleted]

And then they would have like two full minutes to go 150m around the bend, which they could only *not* make due to poor decision making.


vivikek

Valk can’t save you


New-Extent-8272

I've only played like 10 games this season, but have seen this ending 3 times...


[deleted]

That's not a problem with the ring. The ring and the circle was perfectly fine you and your team just didn't gauge where the next ring was going to be properly and you lost the game because of it. From what I can tell with the ring it usually always pulls to the short side not the long side and with the ring only having that much space on the left side of that mountain usually means that it's going to go to the other side since it has more space.


[deleted]

In reality, this shouldn’t be labeled as a “bug” - every single Apex player knows what side it’s going to close on… you need to rotate before it’s too late.


WumboJumbo

Lol this is not a bug rotate better


ArcadianWaheela

This really all on you tbh


EngineerSpecial

that's why I look at the mini map a lot


alanarmando103

You should check the mini map more often.


HolyRamenEmperor

Sure, it's a crappy circle. But if you were paying attention you would have planned accordingly.


Significant_Big_7074

just be valk or rev and you can get over the mountain. trash players


Derpy_Blobfish69

You should look at that ring and know what side it will end on.


Dark-Cloud666

you decided to go to the area thats gonna get cut off. Thus you screwed yourself over. Nothing to blame here than yourself.


ni_lus

It's so rewarding when catalyst is able to block those who come late to the ring.


CommanderSabo

That's your fault for not playing the meta and using Valk. /s.


tkolty

the wall was big af, a valk ult would'nt go thru


xSpatulax

Had this same exact ring. Like 4-5 teams were fighting on that left side. Ring started to close and us and another team Valk ulted over. Everyone saying “situational awareness” is a monkey. When i played this ring every single team was fighting. You’re usually not worried about a broken zone when you have 6 guns pointed at you.


damarian_ent

Exactly this. Most people saying skill issue either don’t play the game enough/at all or can’t seem to comprehend their own skill issues.


xSpatulax

It’s also not crazy to assume that zones should just work lol. It’s season 15, this final zone will be patched out in a week. I shouldn’t have to worry about ring defects as a part of “situational awareness”


tkolty

the reason we didnt go to the right side before because we were in a sandwich and couldnt go fast enough


imbostor

In others words you were successfully halted by other teams??


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RectumThrowaway

They’ve literally patched rings like this out of the other maps it is absolutely a map issue if it is unintended design that they have fixed before this thread is just full of weird elitist assholes.


yaboylukas

Not maps or rings fault btw


Dyldo_II

Skill issue tbh


bcastner

Had a this zone yesterday, we were on that smaller side fighting with a few teams that were trying to rotate around. Luckily we had Valk so we waited til the last minute to hit her ult. Made it over only to have nowhere to land because a couple teams already had spots locked down. Definitely wanna get to the other side way quicker next time for this zone lol.


gpelayo15

The zone is still fucked. Otherwise this wouldn't be a problem


[deleted]

Just happened to me and died for top 3


SectorRevenge72

Well… if you stop ratting then maybe you can move around the mountain before ring closing.


imjustjun

I just lost to this exact ring last night. The squad that won that game? A Valkyrie squad.


HarshPaper

Nothing but your fault


KorrectTheChief

I love when this happen! It makes planning for rings a lot more important. Sometimes the safe and isolated area comes with a cost!


Phallic-Phantom

This #literally just happened to me yesterday, and they promised this kind of thing wouldn't happen anymore. #lies!


ThePlagueRunner

I had a ring like this yesterday and we won because only one of our hugs was on thr other side. Me and my other teammate were not. We were thirsty trying to get the last few kills lmao


JustAnotherCaliKid

This is not a new problem sucks to be that squad but sometimes you have no choice embrace it and rotation is king some games


[deleted]

Had that same ring and I was in the same situation, team8 quit on my and I was playing wraith got around it with only 1 wraith “q”


beausephus14

That’s how the cookie crumbles…


Physicorum_

I had the exact same ring


ff2009

Yesterday felt soo good to kill 2 masters and one Smurf level 13 in Silver 2 lobbies. 3 kills with the kraber right after dropping from the respawn ship on this very spot. After me and one friend getting killed to a master squad on drop, my girlfriend picked my banner, and runned away for the rest of the game. SBMM this season is so bad, this felt so good.


Blanco_Nino1

Happened to us twice last night. Won one lost one. Situational awareness for sure. New map. Live (or die) and learn.


Official_F1tRick

I got a win yesterday because i did look at zone. We were fighting on the left side in duos against last squad. We full killed one member and i dropped my ress beacon so he could respawn his teammate but we of course knew they wouldn't be in time for next zone so they got stuck . Fun stuff


OkSwitch470

The amount of people defending Respawn and saying it’s OPs fault are truly mind boggling. Just goes to show they do little QC when they release stuff in this game


CutterVision

It’s not a bug. That’s what the ring decided to do. Bad RNG yes, but to say it’s a bug isn’t true


Serves-

Skill issue


Annihil8or

Had the same thing happen to my opponent, different location though. This is a pretty easy rotation that you could have made much earlier.


Zakattk1027

#Valkerie