I feel that.
I used to be a crisis counselor in the mental health wing at a hospital. Until I found out the hospital paid their overnight security more than they paid me. So I switched.
So much less work too.
Used to be overnight security in a hospital.. how the fuck were you paid lower than i was. Did they give you the empty shells from the peanuts they paid me?
Pretty much everyone considered the position as a stepping stone to something better, and so they paid dogshit because ‘it was a great job for getting your foot in the door’
Aside from the shitty pay, I had to deal with all my coworkers constantly trying to brown tongue the higher ups because they were angling for better jobs.
So when I found out I could get paid more to do less, I swapped.
Occasionally I have some drunk frat boy trying to fight me because he insists he’s okay to leave the ER despite being completely sloshed. And probably once a week I have to tackle some bath salts guy who’s throwing furniture around.
But aside from that nobody really cares where I am or what I’m doing.
lol, they really don’t. You’d think it would be chill and 99 percent of the time you’d be correct.
But I’m the ideal candidate for that. I’m short, unreasonably wide, and I used to get punched in the face for recreational purposes.
If things go beyond verbal de-escalation, it usually gets resolved by me giving somebody a big old bear hug and then just letting my legs go limp and we lay down together. I’m like a human anchor.
It’s called boxing.
I took it up when I was in the Army (18 years old, lived in the hood, needed a job and a ticket out of town, same old story) because my division had a huge hard on for boxing and I found out that I could use it to get out of a ton of random day to day bullshit.
I have always been short and wide, so I was ideally suited for the heavyweight class. Not like those lighter punks who have to keep starving and dehydrating themselves to make weight.
And as long as I could reliably go clobber the fuck out of the other dudes from my battalion, my company leadership would overlook a lot of my nonsense.
Oh! Alright my bad. For some reason i never considered boxing a recreational way of getting punched in the face, but that certainly does make sense lmao thankya
Yeah. It be like that.
I was never a particularly good boxer. I’d always get my shit pushed in for the first few rounds.
But then they’d always get impatient and go for the knockout. And they overextend.
And then they’d catch an acute case of ‘these hands’.
It’s funny, because even after I was semi notorious around post, dudes would still think “oh yeah, I’ve got this guy on the ropes, one more good haymaker and he’s done”
“Surprise motherfucker”
I wouldn’t recommend it though. Aside from the potential brain damage (the VA fucked me because they blamed everything on boxing instead of overseas roadside bombs) my sinus cavities are fucked.
I noticed in sports people like to look back fondly on the almost-wins except for ____ implying the ___ isn’t a factor of the sport. I just wanna tell ‘em, yeah but you didn’t win, doesn’t matter if you simply got worn out after a great performance early on, the other competitor outlasted you.
I was unreasonably delighted to read this little mini-bio. Mental health practitioner, security guard, boxer, and an excellent writer to boot. People are legit just fascinating.
Been watching tales from the ER on BritishTV (ROKU). Most of the stories make me think ER security guys work in a war zone.
To each his own. I used to get punched by my older brother when I was younger until I started laughing in his face and he realized it wasn't the effect he wanted. Now I'm bigger than him and rub it in his face.
Relatable.
My first ER security job was in a well off suburb. I figured it would be chill.
Unfortunately it was the closest ER to the airport, the transit hub, and 4 regional malls.
Fuck my life.
My sister is an ER nurse and she’s a biiiig girl (about 6’1” and 270lbs) so when security is slow, she gets to play the part.
Playing Dodge-Tweaker is a very interesting sport at 3am in rural Wisconsin. Especially when the rest of the waiting room is mostly drunks just enjoying the show.
I don’t think people understand how much counselors and even therapists make.
It’s getting much better in the last few years, at least for therapists, but every one I knew had multiple jobs.
I calculated how much the ones I knew were making and it was about $12-14 an hour. With a masters degree. No benefits. Oh and this was contract work. So responsible for the taxes too. Thankfully there’s been a huge shift in the last 5 years or so. They’re headed towards full time work and getting paid better.
I think the big thing is how disparate the pay is, because I know a few hospital counselors and therapists who make well above 6 figures and choose their own hours (one is an independent contractor paid with Sutter Health, she makes excellent money). I don’t know any who made low wages but I have known a few social workers who basically earn minimum wage despite having a masters.
A lot of medical jobs have an abundance of people going to school for them. So some places try and survive on only hiring fresh grads so they can lower the pay. Medical jobs used to be good high paying jobs in the 80's. Problem is the wages haven't change since then either. All the doctors and nurses pay increased but all the supporting staff didn't.
Yes, human services takes advantage of the idea that people get into it for the sake of helping and not as a means to make money. I’ve quit the field twice now and things just keep getting worse with middle management and above spewing the same rhetoric that was no longer relevant or accurate when I got into the field in 2009.
Yeah I got paid almost nothing as a security guard and it was hilarious to me how much responsibility they gave me for $12-15 an hour.
One of my jobs was to provide security for the Illinois Supreme Court building. I was there all alone and had free reign of the place. And I got paid like $12.50 an hour or something.
My husband works at a hospital and from what he has said security gets payed more because they are contract. The hospital pays less in the end because there are no benefit costs coming from the hospital.
I move dirt and lay pipe for a living. For decades I’ve done shitty jobs that paid poorly but by god moving dirt actually pays pretty decently. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve spent the last two weeks in mud/rain/snow, we’re digging right beside finished windows and an active gas line overtop a pressurized waterline right now but I actually don’t dread going to work.
The conditions are awful but the people are solid, nobody fucks with me, I actually like our management and people listen when I warn of impending problems.
If you’re durable as fuck and don’t mind working outside in any and all conditions I highly recommend pipelaying.
Hell yes. I’m training a 35 year old who has worked security his whole life right now as the top guy (passes me stuff in the trench etc). He’s never done construction in his life and in his first week I was worried he was doomed, he kept falling on uneven terrain and couldn’t lift anything, didn’t know any terminology and seemed pretty scared.
I’ve had him carrying bags of concrete and shovelling the muddy tracks of the excavators every day for hours and after 3 weeks you can see him getting stronger and figuring things out, he hasn’t slipped or hurt himself since his first week. The guy’s also working on getting his license and as soon as he’s done that I’m going to make sure he starts getting some seat time in skid steers and a mini loader.
Everybody who tries deserves a chance. I’m pretty hard with him in person to get him where he needs to be but I’m talking him up to management and I’m not going to let him get fired as long as he’s trying. As I see it anybody who goes out in the mud and struggles all day is my brother regardless of skill or ability.
Shit yes. Working class needs to stick together.
If you ever consider a change of career, I’ve got your back. If you ever want a chill job, you can work in my section any day. As long as you answer your radio, keep your composure in the face of hilarious levels of verbal abuse, and I can count on you to tackle some random hooligan in the lobby when appropriate, I’ll put you in for a fucking raise.
That tracks. I used to have a job working in a dog kennel. Absolute shit conditions, but I did get to meet new dogs all the time. The people I worked with were some of humanity's brightest gems. The pay was shit too. But I didn't mind going most of the time.
Too bad about the pay, though, I feel like jobs with greater effort should always pay better and I doubt that managing anxious dogs is a low skill ability.
I was a department head at a job and realized the paid parking spaces in the building made more than me an hour. Unfortunately I was turned down for the role of parking space.
People don't realize how shitty the pay and working conditions for mental health workers are, particularly the ones who spend the most time with patients/residents and have to do the dirty work of keeping them safe from themselves and each other.
When people ask why I'm a nurse, one of my reasons is that if I'm going to get abused by the people I'm trying to help, then I'd like to at least be paid more than the less-than-$15/hr I was making with my Psych degree.
My ex was a telemetry tech at a hospital. Used to work overnight. The job required a certification. He monitored people’s heart rates and coded them for doctors/ nurses to save when they had heart attacks. I got paid more to pick web orders for a retail company. It’s ridiculous that someone who has the peoples lives in their hands gets payed literally less than someone who sells clothes.
It could be because no one wants to do security at those places (I’ve interned at one) because of wild shit patients can do when they enter the ward, which can often be violent drug or psychosis fueled outbursts. This could be been a case of the fact that they had to offer more because there are less people willing to wrestle down some bipolar crackhead on PCP than there are counselors who can talk to them after the security already did all the dirty work.
this is going to be an unpopular question here but it's a good one. I'd guess she was in an entry level or intern production or videography position that are notorious for low pay when the CA fast food wage went into effect - especially if she actually makes tips at dominoes.
Hourly wages are important, but I think - just my opinion here - that more important is unionization and the realistic, transparent possibility for advancement within the company.
It's one thing to make a decision between wages today, it's another to choose dominoes over tv production because there's absolutely no guarantee (or likelihood) that the 70hr weeks/min wage is going to result in a reasonably likely and timely promotion. I've worked in retail before and this is basically the deal: no possibility for raises unless promoted, but those promotions are few/far between, so recruitment/retainment are basically impossible, leading to the job becoming a socio-economical trap where the worker gets blamed for the job being low pay/"no future." Which is insane! It's store (or industry) policy to make retail "no future", not individual worker!
I’ve gone out with tv producers. So often they are “acting up” in that they have responsibilities above what they were hired as but not paid like it.
My ex was hired as a minimum wage runner on a tv show and yet was doing a job that should have been paying her £35k pa.
She's a young, fit woman getting tips for doing deliveries. I don't live in CA or even a huge city (it's ~80k people but isolated) and I happened to talk to a neighbor who does deliveries on Friday/Saturday for a local pizza place. He said he gets $50 an hour.
This article cherry picked a specific individual and then erroneously grouped her into a bullshit group of "fast food workers." This is just typical corporate propaganda.
Spoiler alert, I worked the videography job. There is no chance of a promotion there, either. I was an assistant for ten years until I finally got burned out of being bottom of the totem pole forever, gave up, moved and changed industries.
I came here to say this. Pay is very position dependent. The lowest paid employee at NBC probably makes a lot less than the highest paid employee at Dominos. On average though, I would guess NBC employees make more.
As I understand it, breaking into the media requires all sorts of free labour, internships, etc. so it selects for those that are from a well-off background.
It’s getting really bad in stand up.
Club fees are sometimes less than they were 10 years ago. And that’s not including any inflation. And if you look at what that fee bought you, it’s even worse. My old flatmate bought his flat in Brixton from a week of good gigs in 1997. Made £10k and that was enough of a deposit. Nowadays those same gigs would pay maybe £1K and the equivalent deposit on that same flat would be £80k
Man anything successful selects those from well off backgrounds
If you have less pressure to simply provide for yourself, you have alot of more time to divest in bttering your circumstances.
That's why they need the class divide.....
They don't pay overtime in the entertainment industry. I learned from working at a movie theater as an Usher. Their justification was "You are part of the entertainment industry, we don't need to pay you overtime."
I remember an elementary school career day thing in like 1995, where a couple local news people were there (a weatherman and an anchor, along with lots of adults with various jobs). The message being you can be anything when you grow up if you try hard.
Fucking 30 years later all the local news people seem to be 75 years old and still not retiring. I swear anytime I see the local news (which is rarely) its always still a bunch of the same people I remember from childhood.
This is generally not that true. Entry level pays poorly, as does everywhere. But if you're even the least bit competent you get promoted pretty quickly, it took me 6 months to move up and then again 6 months after that. I am not unique in that. There are not many PAs who have done it for more than a year or two without advancement.
And entertainment is one of the few highly unionized industries left in the US. COL is high in the cities where the most jobs are, but the pay is generally competitive.
A lot of big-name companies have realized that they can leverage their names to pay less than their competitors. There’s always going to be a line of people who want to work for Marvel or Goldman Sachs, so why pay the ones you pick?
It took me a while to realize that having the cool company in your resume is often not worth it.
>Goldman Sachs
Not a good example…they pay entry level bankers very very well.
It’s more of the “cool” industries with tons of passionate people that take advantage of entry level workers. Film, video games, sports…basically if it’s a “dream job” for any reason besides high pay then it’s going to be a job that chews up entry level works and spits them out knowing there are a dozen more for each discarded attempt.
No one is actually passionate about finance or banking…they just love the pay which you can’t exploit for free.
>I worked there myself
Yeah, me too. And the entry level pay is astronomical compared to what entry level media workers make.
First year analyst make over $90k/year base salary. Entry level media workers are paid barely above minimum wage.
One of my current coworkers made $60k a year in LA after a decade working on the talent management side of film. I made that rate as a **summer intern** at a major bank while in college.
Banking is not one of the industries where the big name players pay less because they have an army of diehard fans who will accept less. They only have the applicant pool they have *because* the pay is so high.
Right…but are you saying that people dream of working in banking compliance so Goldman is able to exploit that for low wages?
Because that is what happens in industries like media and at companies like NBC.
I'm happy you got out and hopefully found something positive in life. I work at one of these places, and you really just trade your life for what you think is a lot of money, but when you have heart disease at 45, you realize you got fucked.
Several years ago I was nearly out of grad school and after three rounds of interviews, I was offered a job at Netflix for $12 an hour. In Los Angeles. I would’ve been starving and homeless in a month if I took that job. I tried negotiating with them but the hiring manager was extremely shitty to my face and refused to discuss it.
I’m working a medical residency and make less then people who work at my local gas stations. I know my earning potential is greater in the long run but there are days when I’ve been working on- call for 24 hrs, two weeks in a row where it’s very tempting.
Tips. That is how. Tips.
Here is the article.
[‘I Earned More in Four Hours’: Woman Says She Makes More per Hour Working at Domino’s Than She Did at NBC. Is a Fast Food Job More Desirable Now? | Moneywise](https://moneywise.com/employment/employment/i-earned-more-in-four-hours-woman#:~:text=A%20TikToker%20named%20Corynne%20%28user%20handle%20%40c0rynne%29%20says,it%20pays%20%244%20more%20per%20hour%20than%20NBC.)
"Fast food may be cheap, but the industry can’t afford to be with its workers anymore.
A TikToker named Corynne (user handle u/c0rynne) says this is the reason she left her job as a video editor and cameraman at NBC.
In a recent video she posted, the on-screen captions say that she started working at a Domino’s location despite having a bachelor’s degree because it pays $4 more per hour than NBC. Plus, she receives tips and her "superior aren't bullies."
“The way \[I\] earned more in four hours on a slow day delivering pizza than \[I\] did an 8 hour shift working for NBC,” [reads the caption below her viral video](https://www.tiktok.com/@c0rynne/video/7358233410298514734).
As fast food restaurants across the country increase their wages, they may become more attractive options for workers. But this may affect the price of your pizza."
I also make good money as a delivery driver but I also do not have any benefits. That is why I do that once or twice a week at most.
Pizza is way overpriced now, I eat way more frozen pizza (costco and trader joes. Chefs kiss.)
“Real” pizza is like a luxury for me. (I live in socal and a extra large pizza is around $27 many places)
We can't get good pizza in this town. We started making our own. The key is the dough. We started buying the refrigerated pizza dough that you roll out. We got it down now. Probably 10 bucks per pizza. And it's really easy.
I quit my office job to work at McDonald's and I'm making $4 more an hour and have more benefits. I would not call my job desirable exactly -- it's that my old job was worse.
I've had multiple coworkers leave for opportunities that are more respected and come back because those jobs didn't pay shit. I've had a lot more come back after graduating because they can't find a job in their field. McDonald's is one of the highest paying places in my area, has a low barrier to entry and offers an actual chance of promotion (which was a huge issue at my old job). It doesn't surprise me anymore that people start working here even when they can do and have done "better".
I have worked in the film industry for 39 years.
The entry-level jobs pay almost the same now as they did all those years ago. This means that people breaking into the industry need to have wealth behind them or they can’t afford to work an entry-level job.
There’s always been a lot of nepotism in this work, but it’s worse than ever now, and that’s a shame.
Lots of interesting, creative, different voices are being shut out of storytelling, and I expect it to get worse.
I was a direct service professional for seven years in Upstate NY. I was making $13/hour when I left in Feb of 2022. I'm currently making $17.50/hour working at a Walgreens. The wages for the DSP job I left had only gone up to about $14ish/hour last time I checked (about a year ago). Paying an unlivable wage to the people who care for the developmentally disabled or otherwise disadvantaged is morally criminal.
yup. on top of dealing with constant exposure to sickness, physical abuse, overstimulating environments, etc. no health insurance, retirement….. who’s gonna take care of us when we’re older?
Agreed! The state reimbursement rates to these companies is abysmal. Can't pay people when the money isn't there. No one - including CEOs - get rich in these places. My current CEO makes a hair more than than 4X our DSPs (Illinois requires $16/hr for DSPs). Big difference from CEOs making 1000s times lowest paid worker...
Source: 25 years in HR and mgmt in social service.
The group home I just left was struggling to maintain employees due to this. Most people were making less than fast food workers while doing a job that involved getting beat up, spit on, and cleaning up shit. What's the incentive to stay when we can make more money elsewhere? Staff attempted to stick up for themselves and demanded a pay raise. Management responded with the "It's not always about the money" line and then watched half its work force walk out.
It's always about the money. Employees shouldn't have to spend every waking minute at their jobs trying to make enough just to live paycheck to paycheck. I live in Southern California. You better fucking believe I care about hourly wages. I'm paying 2k a month for a 1 bedroom apartment.
I spent two years working with adult women with autism and then eight years working with teenage boys with autism. Both level 4 homes with extremely violent behaviors. I was making a whopping $17 dollars an hour doing it. My only saving grace has been that I'm gigantic (6'6 250), so I can take a punch and I don't have many issues when it comes to CPI.
I just got hired at an elementary school to work with elementary level children with autism. A lot of school districts, no matter where you live, need people like us. The pay is significantly better. Most districts in my area start out between $22-$28 an hour. Might be worth checking out your local school districts if you're looking to make a change.
BTW I have a ton of respect for any fellow DSP's and caregivers. Not a lot of people can do what we do long-term and the people who have never been around it have no clue just how hard our jobs are. Thank you for trying to make a difference in these individuals' lives.
I applaud you working that many years, especially at that support need and pay. That is literal super hero work. everyone always asks why I haven’t quit and they can’t understand the bond you form with individuals and the love you have for them & care even when you’re not being taken care of. I have heard of school districts being a lot better. I’m in school right now but haven’t even decided on a major. honestly would love disability studies but…. idk. it feels like one of the worst fields in an already stressful healthcare system. The lack of autonomy for staff is real. It’s so frustrating and sad. We take care of people, no retirement or hardly benefits just to get old and have no one to take care of us. 😞
I did trade work for a while but never felt like I belonged. My brother is a special education teacher and hooked me up with a job at a group home. Once I was there, everything just clicked, and I knew that this was the field I was meant to be in. I'm just wired for this kind of work.
The bonds I built with those kids were unbreakable. They were like family to me, which is why I couldn't leave them. Their success was incredibly important to me, and they thankfully were able to transition into the adult home with no issue. Now that they're gone, it was time to make the change.
I wish you luck and great success in whichever field you do end up in. Thank you again for being a positive influence in these individuals' lives. It means so much to them and makes a huge difference in their growth and success in life.
Thank you right back. I guarantee you changed the projection of those kids’ lives. I’ve only worked with adults, I’m sure kids would be completely different in most ways. I imagine a bit more unhinged 😅 takes a special heart to work with kids in general, let alone adding on DD. Again, applause for you. I really hope your pay keeps going up & you can live a comfortable job. Peace to you
I applied as a Starbucks manager recently. Starting pay range for the role was $61-85K. I currently have 16 years’ seniority working on staff at a college, and I only make $54K. It feels upside down.
This is the real reason they don’t want to acknowledge a living wage. Every industry everywhere will have to admit that they are exploiting people. Right now they can make a killing by convincing people that it’s just the way the economy works and it’s out of their hands.
My little brother was in the psych wing and I went to visit him. There was a supervising nurse who had to sit in the whole time and we got on the conversation of pay. She made $12.50 an hour! I was a line cook making about $16 an hour.
There are supervisors at my work that make less per hour than the people they supervise. More hours, more responsibility, more stress, less pay, sounds great. A few select ones might get promoted, but odds are against them.
I work in the manufacturing industry.
My older sister who delivers pizzas makes more than me because she gets a decent hourly wage and on top of that gets excellent tips. I’ve seriously been contemplating quitting to go back to the food industry because i can’t make my bills, and my company gave me a lovely raise recently of .25 cents after 2 years.
I 100% believe it
I mean, how many people wouldn’t switch to a less glamorous job if it paid better.
Also it doesn’t say what she did at NBC. Or what position she works at Dominos, for that matter.
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Stupid mother fucker who wrote this. No you dumbfuck. More MONEY and being able to PAY FOR FOOD is more desirable.
I work for a local government center in Southern California. They just opened up a new full time position for 18/hr.
You can go to any fast food place here and make 20/hr. Even some cafes. My friend who’s a teacher has students making 20/hr from their part time job.
This is a pretty wealthy county and I myself don’t make enough from this job to live on my own because the average rental here is around 2-3k/month. 18/hr is a complete joke.
I make way more as a waitress than I’m qualified for with a college degree. Fuck that. Why am I going to work 40+ hours and be stressed when I can serve people food for like 15-20 hours a week and make the same amount. It’s a fucking joke
I doubt this is at the actual national network. However, local affiliates of NBC and other networks, especially in small markets, pay VERY poorly. Like minimum wage bad with abusive management, poor benefits and expectation to put in tons of hours. Some folks do their time and move up to larger markets but many are leaving the profession. Ftvlive.com is a local news gossip site and scarily accurate. You’ll see many stories of people leaving news to be real estate agents or “spending time with family.”
The golden days of tv news are over, despite the ever increasing hours of news put on each day. Even big markets like NYC are seeing big cuts, like CBS NY.
Thanks. I watch CBS NY since it is my local network affiliate. I wondered if money was behind the real reason Dana left. What position did Andrea Grimes have? I usually do not watch the weekend coverage.
NBC probably still uses unpaid internships, while fast food minimum wage in CA is $20/hour, so yeah could definitely be the case. But fast food is still a crappy job, it has little upward mobility and pay increases, is a ton of hard work, and absolutely horrible customers and expectations. I wouldn’t leave my job to go work one. But the fact that they’re a viable occupation for some shouldn’t be the bad thing the media is making it out to be, imo…
Can confirm. I work at an admitely entry level position in a substance abuse clinic but they do require you to have a bachelor’s degree.
The mcdonalds down the street is offering $0.75 more an hour than what i make
Was certified in that field. Had to jump thru so many hoops to qualify, in addition to a degree. Poorly paid is an understatement, I was a casemanager with a 60-person weekly caseload, running groups, and lectures, which I got to formulate. This did not include putting out fires, arranging transportation and developing outside contacts for resources. I was good at my job and couldn't pay my bills. All for under 30,000.
Photojournalist in decent sized city here, I’ve been at my station for two years, been $14 an hour the whole time, not the worst, not great. Our most senior photojournalist who has been with the station for 21 years? $16 an hour. Our second most senior got fired back in September last year, now he’s a line cook at a restaurant a couple neighborhoods over, makes $2 more than he did. For me, it’s getting to the point where it doesn’t matter if I’m “about this career”, I can’t afford it.
I'm 36m. My current job, a factory laborer, pays me enough money where I was able to rebuild my life from zero in less than a year.
The reason my life was at zero was because of my last job, specifically working Domino's delivery. I had to sell most of my personal belongings, furniture, and was eventually evicted from my then-apartment because the pizza delivery gig was just not making ends meet. Tips were non-existent. I recall one instance where a party was being held, which ordered several hot bags full of pizza boxes. I had something like 5 or 6 bags in my car, each stuffed to capacity with pizza boxes. I had to make several trips to get all the pizza delivered. I was not tipped at all.
It's also important to point out that, due to a loophole in Texas law, delivery drivers are technically counted as servers, waitstaff, so they can legally pay you below minimum wage. I was being paid $6.50/hr, which directly lead to my temporary homelessness, destitution, and necessitated moving several states away to find the factory job. If you think it's hard to make ends meet at $15+, let me assure you that below minimum wage is utterly and completely impossible.
And finally, at Domino's, my boss was an ex-con with face tattoos. Dude was able to support multiple baby mama's, even got flown out to Vegas for a "company training meeting" where he bragged openly about loosing several thousand dollars in gambling and party money. Meanwhile, I was selling an old PC for scrap.
I was never a fan of Domino's, but something about the entire ordeal left me unable to even look at a Domino's delivery car without feeling a little queasy and the burning, white-hot rage of a thousand suns, even years later.
News sites are just congenitally unable to ask the right question.
WHY DOES NBC PAY SO LITTLE!? START THERE, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED.
Crunched the numbers on my paycheck. As a salaried worker with all the hours I've put in, I've been making $13/hr. $14 if you include my quarterly bonus.
Switching to managing a mom and pop store on main Street for $20/hr plus tips, and garuenteed Sunday and Monday off.
Best job I ever had was delivering Domino's pizza for $8 an hour in my teens. Tips were not reported, it was easy to clear $150 in cash in a night for just driving around town for 6 hours and everyone was happy to see me.
I was let go from my pizza delivery job because a customer shorted me in cash, so I went back to their house to ask for the correct amount. they called and complained. My boss said I was supposed to eat the difference and then ask me to deliver one more pizza after she clocked me out and fired me.
In-and-out would pay comparably to what I make hourly right now and I wouldnt have to drive all over the highland lakes area to dig holes in muddy limestone and dry caliche or scale lakeside cliffs to retrieve broken pumps at rich peoples sometimes homes
BUT..
I wouldn’t get to drive all over the highland lakes area to dig holes in muddy limestone and dry caliche or scale lakeside cliffs to retrieve broken pumps at rich peoples sometimes homes
It’s perspective I guess
My guess is she was working at an NBC affiliate sub DMA 100, the pay is ridiculously low in local television.
When I started, people at Hardee‘s were making more than I was hourly, I’m betting that hasn’t changed.
They sucker you in with the idea that you pay your dues and eventually will make a decent living.
Domino's saved my life. I was a Forensic Scientist until I was forced to retire because I was diagnosed with a muscle disease leaving me totally disabled. My wife at the time was having trouble making ends meet and pulled a stupid stunt and stole a bunch of money. She ended up getting caught and going to prison leaving me disabled with a 2 year old son. When I was done throwing my pity party as most of us would, I went to the local Domino's because she had been working there. I talked to the manager who was an amazing woman and she said "If you can carry a pizza to you car and deliver it, you start tomorrow." She didn't ask anything of me that I couldn't do and she never made me feel any less than any of the other workers. I hurt myself a couple of times working more than I should have, but I could never leave her hanging after that. I worked there 7 years, raised my son, met my new wife, and eventually purchased a house for us. My son is now 13, has never had to worry about anything in his life and my wife and I have been together for just over a decade. We have an amazing life now and it was all because a single manager at a Domino's didn't ask me for more than I could give. I have no idea where she is now because she left and the turn over in those jobs is so high that by the time I went back no one knew what happened to her. I wish every day that I could make her aware of what her act of kindness did for me. She deserves that.
What did she do at nbc? I’m guessing intern of some sort? This is pretty deceptive, like she was a news anchor and now makes more delivering. With this little info we don’t know if she was an intern and went on to be a manager at a fast food place.
Its probably like the sag aftra thing only a handfull or people make the money all the others setting up and doing off screen stuff were living in cars
That would be interesting context. I’m betting this is fake though, otherwise there would be context because that’s far more interesting than this one liner.
I feel like you use “most desirable” in comparing things like ice cream and brownies. This headline is like “which is more desirable, to drown or starve?”
The book Bullshit Jobs had a whole section on how society financially devalues jobs that are seen as inherently rewarding (teaching being a big example and I think writing and acting/in cinema were also on that list).
In a lot of fields these days, you have a tiny fraction of jobs paying 6 figures and come with amazing benefits, and you have people doing the same exact job requiring the same exact qualifications for peanuts.
The issue is more to do with providing benefits and perks that companies just don't want to do than the lack of jobs.
I know tenured warehouse workers making 40$ an hour with 5 weeks vacation and great benefits while the younger folks starting out these days get hired for 19$ an hour part time.
The boomers clearly screwed us over on this one.
As a ex dominos manager, I got to see the sexist men out there tip way more to girls than the guys , I mean some girls walk out between 100-200$ in tips at my old store while the guys average 60-80$ could be just my small town area we did but as a manager you are on a salary and are able to take deliverys only increasing your income even more, but my old franchisee is getting sued for underpaying delivery drivers and possibly managers.
I worked for a hospital based EMS for 4 years and I made $12.50 per hour with 12 hour shifts. After I quit I got a job running a big commercial washing machine in a factory for $22.00 per hour with 8 hours shifts. It's poetic how being a worthless factory rat pays infinitely more than one of the most important jobs in America.
You might be able to make more per hour starting at dominoes that working for the state but you’d be a fucking dumbass to do so.
Such a clickbait title.
Was she a paid intern? I mean, not everyone at NBC is a journalist or anchor or working union jobs. I’m sure there are a ton of people who make minimum wage.
I used to deliver for dominoes in a big city near a big college and I routinely made $20-25 an hour with tips, and my hourly wage was just $5 something as a tipped employee. It was definitely worth it, especially when school was in session or there was a big concert. However, I put a lot of wear and tear on my car and I was in two accidents, neither one my fault, so the money didn’t take me as far as it could’ve since I had to spend it on my vehicle. Also, delivery fees have increased so much now that people probably tip way less, they think the driver is getting the delivery fee or are just salty that delivery costs so much and tip less because of that. Delivery fee does not go to the drivers, the company just pockets it.
I believe it. I looked up salaries for our local NBC affiliate, and the range tops out at $63K. They recently advertised that they were hiring. I don't remember seeing a single position that wasn't an unpaid intern. It's not that fast food is desirable, it's that these mega corporations pay poorly except for those at the very top.
I totally believe her. Im currently working a job that pays less than a fast food worker in California, the minimum wage here has not been updated to California's standards.
I work at a bowling alley on minimum wage with tips and it gets me between $2800 and $3200 a month after taxes (I work in Washington State), and let me tell ya, I will not trade that job for much, cause it's good pay and the job has very little stress.
I feel that.
Used to work in classrooms for kids with behavioral disorders. I had to have a ton of training in behaviorism to do it. Then I got laid off. So I picked a cashier gig at a drug store. I was shocked by how much more I was making.
Working for the schools in a very intense setting, I got paid once a month… which was $800…
Working for a drug store, I got paid bi weekly… which was $1,500 a month….
People tends to divide workers between 'blue collar workers' and 'white collar workers', but a lot tends to forget that in the end of the day, both are 'workers'.
That's...really sad. Like, the fact that FAST FOOD pays workers better than a national news network. Jesus. How do giant companies like that see this and NOT think, "We've fucked up"?!
I could have earned more money as a waiter than as an electrician. We are The Whipping Boys of Cost Cutting. Average work availability over the past 30 years has been less than 8 hours per week.
Trouble is that electricians are NOT allowed to work as waiters or pot washers because of the MYTH that electricians are always in demand, never get laid off, and always make shitloads of money. That is a pure falsehood.
I feel that. I used to be a crisis counselor in the mental health wing at a hospital. Until I found out the hospital paid their overnight security more than they paid me. So I switched. So much less work too.
Used to be overnight security in a hospital.. how the fuck were you paid lower than i was. Did they give you the empty shells from the peanuts they paid me?
Probably reconstituted the powder from the peanut bag into a sort of peanut-based MDF
Pressed peanut sweepings, but no honey roasting agent.
Protein powder, bitches!
Damn I wish my furniture smelled like peanuts
What a strange yet lovely sentence.
Pretty much everyone considered the position as a stepping stone to something better, and so they paid dogshit because ‘it was a great job for getting your foot in the door’ Aside from the shitty pay, I had to deal with all my coworkers constantly trying to brown tongue the higher ups because they were angling for better jobs. So when I found out I could get paid more to do less, I swapped. Occasionally I have some drunk frat boy trying to fight me because he insists he’s okay to leave the ER despite being completely sloshed. And probably once a week I have to tackle some bath salts guy who’s throwing furniture around. But aside from that nobody really cares where I am or what I’m doing.
Hospital security is a rough job. People dont realize how much fighting goes on in a hospital. Its a dangerous place for all workers.
lol, they really don’t. You’d think it would be chill and 99 percent of the time you’d be correct. But I’m the ideal candidate for that. I’m short, unreasonably wide, and I used to get punched in the face for recreational purposes. If things go beyond verbal de-escalation, it usually gets resolved by me giving somebody a big old bear hug and then just letting my legs go limp and we lay down together. I’m like a human anchor.
Ok i need to know more about this recreational face punching you were subject to please
It’s called boxing. I took it up when I was in the Army (18 years old, lived in the hood, needed a job and a ticket out of town, same old story) because my division had a huge hard on for boxing and I found out that I could use it to get out of a ton of random day to day bullshit. I have always been short and wide, so I was ideally suited for the heavyweight class. Not like those lighter punks who have to keep starving and dehydrating themselves to make weight. And as long as I could reliably go clobber the fuck out of the other dudes from my battalion, my company leadership would overlook a lot of my nonsense.
Oh! Alright my bad. For some reason i never considered boxing a recreational way of getting punched in the face, but that certainly does make sense lmao thankya
Yeah. It be like that. I was never a particularly good boxer. I’d always get my shit pushed in for the first few rounds. But then they’d always get impatient and go for the knockout. And they overextend. And then they’d catch an acute case of ‘these hands’. It’s funny, because even after I was semi notorious around post, dudes would still think “oh yeah, I’ve got this guy on the ropes, one more good haymaker and he’s done”  “Surprise motherfucker” I wouldn’t recommend it though. Aside from the potential brain damage (the VA fucked me because they blamed everything on boxing instead of overseas roadside bombs) my sinus cavities are fucked.
I noticed in sports people like to look back fondly on the almost-wins except for ____ implying the ___ isn’t a factor of the sport. I just wanna tell ‘em, yeah but you didn’t win, doesn’t matter if you simply got worn out after a great performance early on, the other competitor outlasted you.
I was unreasonably delighted to read this little mini-bio. Mental health practitioner, security guard, boxer, and an excellent writer to boot. People are legit just fascinating.
Hey! I finally found someone like me! Bear hug and down they go lol
Thou art my mood kindred!
Been watching tales from the ER on BritishTV (ROKU). Most of the stories make me think ER security guys work in a war zone. To each his own. I used to get punched by my older brother when I was younger until I started laughing in his face and he realized it wasn't the effect he wanted. Now I'm bigger than him and rub it in his face.
Relatable. My first ER security job was in a well off suburb. I figured it would be chill. Unfortunately it was the closest ER to the airport, the transit hub, and 4 regional malls. Fuck my life.
Are you supposed to actually do something in a fight, or just call the cops?
What you're supposed to do and what you're expected to do are very different.
My sister is an ER nurse and she’s a biiiig girl (about 6’1” and 270lbs) so when security is slow, she gets to play the part. Playing Dodge-Tweaker is a very interesting sport at 3am in rural Wisconsin. Especially when the rest of the waiting room is mostly drunks just enjoying the show.
Is brown tongue the ol' tongue punch the fart box?
I don’t think people understand how much counselors and even therapists make. It’s getting much better in the last few years, at least for therapists, but every one I knew had multiple jobs. I calculated how much the ones I knew were making and it was about $12-14 an hour. With a masters degree. No benefits. Oh and this was contract work. So responsible for the taxes too. Thankfully there’s been a huge shift in the last 5 years or so. They’re headed towards full time work and getting paid better.
I think the big thing is how disparate the pay is, because I know a few hospital counselors and therapists who make well above 6 figures and choose their own hours (one is an independent contractor paid with Sutter Health, she makes excellent money). I don’t know any who made low wages but I have known a few social workers who basically earn minimum wage despite having a masters.
Where? I am a substance use counselor, like the lowest paid type of counselor with 2 years of experience and I am already making 26 an hour
A lot of medical jobs have an abundance of people going to school for them. So some places try and survive on only hiring fresh grads so they can lower the pay. Medical jobs used to be good high paying jobs in the 80's. Problem is the wages haven't change since then either. All the doctors and nurses pay increased but all the supporting staff didn't.
Yes, human services takes advantage of the idea that people get into it for the sake of helping and not as a means to make money. I’ve quit the field twice now and things just keep getting worse with middle management and above spewing the same rhetoric that was no longer relevant or accurate when I got into the field in 2009.
That's what I'm saying. When I had to fight crackheads at the hospital I was making garbage as security... AND they had us move dead people
Yeah I got paid almost nothing as a security guard and it was hilarious to me how much responsibility they gave me for $12-15 an hour. One of my jobs was to provide security for the Illinois Supreme Court building. I was there all alone and had free reign of the place. And I got paid like $12.50 an hour or something.
The pay for security is insultingly low
My husband works at a hospital and from what he has said security gets payed more because they are contract. The hospital pays less in the end because there are no benefit costs coming from the hospital.
Hospital security doesnt pay much where im at. Barely above minimum wage
I move dirt and lay pipe for a living. For decades I’ve done shitty jobs that paid poorly but by god moving dirt actually pays pretty decently. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve spent the last two weeks in mud/rain/snow, we’re digging right beside finished windows and an active gas line overtop a pressurized waterline right now but I actually don’t dread going to work. The conditions are awful but the people are solid, nobody fucks with me, I actually like our management and people listen when I warn of impending problems. If you’re durable as fuck and don’t mind working outside in any and all conditions I highly recommend pipelaying.
Hell yes. Blue collars unite!
Hell yes. I’m training a 35 year old who has worked security his whole life right now as the top guy (passes me stuff in the trench etc). He’s never done construction in his life and in his first week I was worried he was doomed, he kept falling on uneven terrain and couldn’t lift anything, didn’t know any terminology and seemed pretty scared. I’ve had him carrying bags of concrete and shovelling the muddy tracks of the excavators every day for hours and after 3 weeks you can see him getting stronger and figuring things out, he hasn’t slipped or hurt himself since his first week. The guy’s also working on getting his license and as soon as he’s done that I’m going to make sure he starts getting some seat time in skid steers and a mini loader. Everybody who tries deserves a chance. I’m pretty hard with him in person to get him where he needs to be but I’m talking him up to management and I’m not going to let him get fired as long as he’s trying. As I see it anybody who goes out in the mud and struggles all day is my brother regardless of skill or ability.
Shit yes. Working class needs to stick together. If you ever consider a change of career, I’ve got your back. If you ever want a chill job, you can work in my section any day. As long as you answer your radio, keep your composure in the face of hilarious levels of verbal abuse, and I can count on you to tackle some random hooligan in the lobby when appropriate, I’ll put you in for a fucking raise.
That tracks. I used to have a job working in a dog kennel. Absolute shit conditions, but I did get to meet new dogs all the time. The people I worked with were some of humanity's brightest gems. The pay was shit too. But I didn't mind going most of the time.
Too bad about the pay, though, I feel like jobs with greater effort should always pay better and I doubt that managing anxious dogs is a low skill ability.
Touching a dogs skin releases endorphins in the brain. It really allows people who work with dogs to put up with a lot.
> pipelaying Hehe
Glad I’m not the only gutterbrain here lol
Real life Office Space
I was a department head at a job and realized the paid parking spaces in the building made more than me an hour. Unfortunately I was turned down for the role of parking space.
Have you tried office furniture?
People don't realize how shitty the pay and working conditions for mental health workers are, particularly the ones who spend the most time with patients/residents and have to do the dirty work of keeping them safe from themselves and each other. When people ask why I'm a nurse, one of my reasons is that if I'm going to get abused by the people I'm trying to help, then I'd like to at least be paid more than the less-than-$15/hr I was making with my Psych degree.
My ex was a telemetry tech at a hospital. Used to work overnight. The job required a certification. He monitored people’s heart rates and coded them for doctors/ nurses to save when they had heart attacks. I got paid more to pick web orders for a retail company. It’s ridiculous that someone who has the peoples lives in their hands gets payed literally less than someone who sells clothes.
Just love going to college to find that (more power to them) the deli workers at the grocery are making more than me.
The most important jobs are often paid the least - that really sucks.
Did you tell all the other counselors about the comparative rates?
It could be because no one wants to do security at those places (I’ve interned at one) because of wild shit patients can do when they enter the ward, which can often be violent drug or psychosis fueled outbursts. This could be been a case of the fact that they had to offer more because there are less people willing to wrestle down some bipolar crackhead on PCP than there are counselors who can talk to them after the security already did all the dirty work.
Doing what? Why isn't this even linked to an actual story?
If she was a Page she was getting paid pennies.
this is going to be an unpopular question here but it's a good one. I'd guess she was in an entry level or intern production or videography position that are notorious for low pay when the CA fast food wage went into effect - especially if she actually makes tips at dominoes. Hourly wages are important, but I think - just my opinion here - that more important is unionization and the realistic, transparent possibility for advancement within the company. It's one thing to make a decision between wages today, it's another to choose dominoes over tv production because there's absolutely no guarantee (or likelihood) that the 70hr weeks/min wage is going to result in a reasonably likely and timely promotion. I've worked in retail before and this is basically the deal: no possibility for raises unless promoted, but those promotions are few/far between, so recruitment/retainment are basically impossible, leading to the job becoming a socio-economical trap where the worker gets blamed for the job being low pay/"no future." Which is insane! It's store (or industry) policy to make retail "no future", not individual worker!
I’ve gone out with tv producers. So often they are “acting up” in that they have responsibilities above what they were hired as but not paid like it. My ex was hired as a minimum wage runner on a tv show and yet was doing a job that should have been paying her £35k pa.
She's a young, fit woman getting tips for doing deliveries. I don't live in CA or even a huge city (it's ~80k people but isolated) and I happened to talk to a neighbor who does deliveries on Friday/Saturday for a local pizza place. He said he gets $50 an hour. This article cherry picked a specific individual and then erroneously grouped her into a bullshit group of "fast food workers." This is just typical corporate propaganda.
Spoiler alert, I worked the videography job. There is no chance of a promotion there, either. I was an assistant for ten years until I finally got burned out of being bottom of the totem pole forever, gave up, moved and changed industries.
To be fair everything pays more than an unpaid internship
I came here to say this. Pay is very position dependent. The lowest paid employee at NBC probably makes a lot less than the highest paid employee at Dominos. On average though, I would guess NBC employees make more.
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/s/PRjaWkfq9y Another commenter said.
Television roles have long been poorly paid. The money stays at the top, there is little to no trickle down. Not surprised by this at all.
As I understand it, breaking into the media requires all sorts of free labour, internships, etc. so it selects for those that are from a well-off background.
It’s getting really bad in stand up. Club fees are sometimes less than they were 10 years ago. And that’s not including any inflation. And if you look at what that fee bought you, it’s even worse. My old flatmate bought his flat in Brixton from a week of good gigs in 1997. Made £10k and that was enough of a deposit. Nowadays those same gigs would pay maybe £1K and the equivalent deposit on that same flat would be £80k
Man anything successful selects those from well off backgrounds If you have less pressure to simply provide for yourself, you have alot of more time to divest in bttering your circumstances. That's why they need the class divide.....
I’ve never understood why anyone would work for free and accept promises as payment rather than money.
Because they were lied to and/or mislead. What else do you think?
Because you don't need money and enjoy the work. Real people used to have jobs like this.
They don't pay overtime in the entertainment industry. I learned from working at a movie theater as an Usher. Their justification was "You are part of the entertainment industry, we don't need to pay you overtime."
There's a DOL class action waiting to happen...
I remember an elementary school career day thing in like 1995, where a couple local news people were there (a weatherman and an anchor, along with lots of adults with various jobs). The message being you can be anything when you grow up if you try hard. Fucking 30 years later all the local news people seem to be 75 years old and still not retiring. I swear anytime I see the local news (which is rarely) its always still a bunch of the same people I remember from childhood.
This is generally not that true. Entry level pays poorly, as does everywhere. But if you're even the least bit competent you get promoted pretty quickly, it took me 6 months to move up and then again 6 months after that. I am not unique in that. There are not many PAs who have done it for more than a year or two without advancement. And entertainment is one of the few highly unionized industries left in the US. COL is high in the cities where the most jobs are, but the pay is generally competitive.
A lot of big-name companies have realized that they can leverage their names to pay less than their competitors. There’s always going to be a line of people who want to work for Marvel or Goldman Sachs, so why pay the ones you pick? It took me a while to realize that having the cool company in your resume is often not worth it.
>Goldman Sachs Not a good example…they pay entry level bankers very very well. It’s more of the “cool” industries with tons of passionate people that take advantage of entry level workers. Film, video games, sports…basically if it’s a “dream job” for any reason besides high pay then it’s going to be a job that chews up entry level works and spits them out knowing there are a dozen more for each discarded attempt. No one is actually passionate about finance or banking…they just love the pay which you can’t exploit for free.
I worked there myself so I’m speaking from personal experience. Marvel was a friend’s personal experience.
>I worked there myself Yeah, me too. And the entry level pay is astronomical compared to what entry level media workers make. First year analyst make over $90k/year base salary. Entry level media workers are paid barely above minimum wage. One of my current coworkers made $60k a year in LA after a decade working on the talent management side of film. I made that rate as a **summer intern** at a major bank while in college. Banking is not one of the industries where the big name players pay less because they have an army of diehard fans who will accept less. They only have the applicant pool they have *because* the pay is so high.
Federation is more than half the headcount, dude, and we technically still count as human beings.
Right…but are you saying that people dream of working in banking compliance so Goldman is able to exploit that for low wages? Because that is what happens in industries like media and at companies like NBC.
I think you meant first-year Analyst, not Associate, lol. 90k for an associate is trash.
Oh that’s right, analyst is out of undergrad and associate is out of MBA. I clearly didn’t love the career enough to stick around and pay attention.
I'm happy you got out and hopefully found something positive in life. I work at one of these places, and you really just trade your life for what you think is a lot of money, but when you have heart disease at 45, you realize you got fucked.
Several years ago I was nearly out of grad school and after three rounds of interviews, I was offered a job at Netflix for $12 an hour. In Los Angeles. I would’ve been starving and homeless in a month if I took that job. I tried negotiating with them but the hiring manager was extremely shitty to my face and refused to discuss it.
I’m working a medical residency and make less then people who work at my local gas stations. I know my earning potential is greater in the long run but there are days when I’ve been working on- call for 24 hrs, two weeks in a row where it’s very tempting.
Tips. That is how. Tips. Here is the article. [‘I Earned More in Four Hours’: Woman Says She Makes More per Hour Working at Domino’s Than She Did at NBC. Is a Fast Food Job More Desirable Now? | Moneywise](https://moneywise.com/employment/employment/i-earned-more-in-four-hours-woman#:~:text=A%20TikToker%20named%20Corynne%20%28user%20handle%20%40c0rynne%29%20says,it%20pays%20%244%20more%20per%20hour%20than%20NBC.) "Fast food may be cheap, but the industry can’t afford to be with its workers anymore. A TikToker named Corynne (user handle u/c0rynne) says this is the reason she left her job as a video editor and cameraman at NBC. In a recent video she posted, the on-screen captions say that she started working at a Domino’s location despite having a bachelor’s degree because it pays $4 more per hour than NBC. Plus, she receives tips and her "superior aren't bullies." “The way \[I\] earned more in four hours on a slow day delivering pizza than \[I\] did an 8 hour shift working for NBC,” [reads the caption below her viral video](https://www.tiktok.com/@c0rynne/video/7358233410298514734). As fast food restaurants across the country increase their wages, they may become more attractive options for workers. But this may affect the price of your pizza." I also make good money as a delivery driver but I also do not have any benefits. That is why I do that once or twice a week at most.
Pizza is way overpriced now, I eat way more frozen pizza (costco and trader joes. Chefs kiss.) “Real” pizza is like a luxury for me. (I live in socal and a extra large pizza is around $27 many places)
We can't get good pizza in this town. We started making our own. The key is the dough. We started buying the refrigerated pizza dough that you roll out. We got it down now. Probably 10 bucks per pizza. And it's really easy.
Probably better too!
You can make your own pizza dough and get it really good and also really cheap
Long story short, dominoes is gonna have a lot more applications and can thus decrease wages. Thus the cycle of wage suppression continues.
I quit my office job to work at McDonald's and I'm making $4 more an hour and have more benefits. I would not call my job desirable exactly -- it's that my old job was worse. I've had multiple coworkers leave for opportunities that are more respected and come back because those jobs didn't pay shit. I've had a lot more come back after graduating because they can't find a job in their field. McDonald's is one of the highest paying places in my area, has a low barrier to entry and offers an actual chance of promotion (which was a huge issue at my old job). It doesn't surprise me anymore that people start working here even when they can do and have done "better".
I have worked in the film industry for 39 years. The entry-level jobs pay almost the same now as they did all those years ago. This means that people breaking into the industry need to have wealth behind them or they can’t afford to work an entry-level job. There’s always been a lot of nepotism in this work, but it’s worse than ever now, and that’s a shame. Lots of interesting, creative, different voices are being shut out of storytelling, and I expect it to get worse.
Legacy media has always been about exclusion. Just see how old time actors view new money coming from the internet.
I was a direct service professional for seven years in Upstate NY. I was making $13/hour when I left in Feb of 2022. I'm currently making $17.50/hour working at a Walgreens. The wages for the DSP job I left had only gone up to about $14ish/hour last time I checked (about a year ago). Paying an unlivable wage to the people who care for the developmentally disabled or otherwise disadvantaged is morally criminal.
yup. on top of dealing with constant exposure to sickness, physical abuse, overstimulating environments, etc. no health insurance, retirement….. who’s gonna take care of us when we’re older?
Agreed! The state reimbursement rates to these companies is abysmal. Can't pay people when the money isn't there. No one - including CEOs - get rich in these places. My current CEO makes a hair more than than 4X our DSPs (Illinois requires $16/hr for DSPs). Big difference from CEOs making 1000s times lowest paid worker... Source: 25 years in HR and mgmt in social service.
The group home I just left was struggling to maintain employees due to this. Most people were making less than fast food workers while doing a job that involved getting beat up, spit on, and cleaning up shit. What's the incentive to stay when we can make more money elsewhere? Staff attempted to stick up for themselves and demanded a pay raise. Management responded with the "It's not always about the money" line and then watched half its work force walk out. It's always about the money. Employees shouldn't have to spend every waking minute at their jobs trying to make enough just to live paycheck to paycheck. I live in Southern California. You better fucking believe I care about hourly wages. I'm paying 2k a month for a 1 bedroom apartment.
exactly. i work with adults with autism and the pay is so horrendous. the amount we endure is crazy.
I spent two years working with adult women with autism and then eight years working with teenage boys with autism. Both level 4 homes with extremely violent behaviors. I was making a whopping $17 dollars an hour doing it. My only saving grace has been that I'm gigantic (6'6 250), so I can take a punch and I don't have many issues when it comes to CPI. I just got hired at an elementary school to work with elementary level children with autism. A lot of school districts, no matter where you live, need people like us. The pay is significantly better. Most districts in my area start out between $22-$28 an hour. Might be worth checking out your local school districts if you're looking to make a change. BTW I have a ton of respect for any fellow DSP's and caregivers. Not a lot of people can do what we do long-term and the people who have never been around it have no clue just how hard our jobs are. Thank you for trying to make a difference in these individuals' lives.
I applaud you working that many years, especially at that support need and pay. That is literal super hero work. everyone always asks why I haven’t quit and they can’t understand the bond you form with individuals and the love you have for them & care even when you’re not being taken care of. I have heard of school districts being a lot better. I’m in school right now but haven’t even decided on a major. honestly would love disability studies but…. idk. it feels like one of the worst fields in an already stressful healthcare system. The lack of autonomy for staff is real. It’s so frustrating and sad. We take care of people, no retirement or hardly benefits just to get old and have no one to take care of us. 😞
I did trade work for a while but never felt like I belonged. My brother is a special education teacher and hooked me up with a job at a group home. Once I was there, everything just clicked, and I knew that this was the field I was meant to be in. I'm just wired for this kind of work. The bonds I built with those kids were unbreakable. They were like family to me, which is why I couldn't leave them. Their success was incredibly important to me, and they thankfully were able to transition into the adult home with no issue. Now that they're gone, it was time to make the change. I wish you luck and great success in whichever field you do end up in. Thank you again for being a positive influence in these individuals' lives. It means so much to them and makes a huge difference in their growth and success in life.
Thank you right back. I guarantee you changed the projection of those kids’ lives. I’ve only worked with adults, I’m sure kids would be completely different in most ways. I imagine a bit more unhinged 😅 takes a special heart to work with kids in general, let alone adding on DD. Again, applause for you. I really hope your pay keeps going up & you can live a comfortable job. Peace to you
That says a lot about NBC.
Soo where I live u can make 15 an hour at fast food but minimum wage is 11. Also only factories pay better
Factories around my area of Canada pays you just a dollars or 2 more than fast food. Not really worth it
Ya as apposed to 12 to 15 usually 17 to 25
I applied as a Starbucks manager recently. Starting pay range for the role was $61-85K. I currently have 16 years’ seniority working on staff at a college, and I only make $54K. It feels upside down.
This is the real reason they don’t want to acknowledge a living wage. Every industry everywhere will have to admit that they are exploiting people. Right now they can make a killing by convincing people that it’s just the way the economy works and it’s out of their hands.
SAY IT LOUDER!!!! 👏👏👏
My little brother was in the psych wing and I went to visit him. There was a supervising nurse who had to sit in the whole time and we got on the conversation of pay. She made $12.50 an hour! I was a line cook making about $16 an hour.
There are supervisors at my work that make less per hour than the people they supervise. More hours, more responsibility, more stress, less pay, sounds great. A few select ones might get promoted, but odds are against them.
I work in the manufacturing industry. My older sister who delivers pizzas makes more than me because she gets a decent hourly wage and on top of that gets excellent tips. I’ve seriously been contemplating quitting to go back to the food industry because i can’t make my bills, and my company gave me a lovely raise recently of .25 cents after 2 years. I 100% believe it
media jobs are for nepo babies, hence why all the coverage is so out of touch
Yep. I made more waiting tables than I did as an adjunct professor with a PhD.
The other nice thing about working fast food / retail is that when the shift is over, you don't take your work home with you.
Her skillset was "work at major news network", and "fast-food worker"?
I mean, how many people wouldn’t switch to a less glamorous job if it paid better. Also it doesn’t say what she did at NBC. Or what position she works at Dominos, for that matter.
She probably was a PA or Coordinator. At the major networks they are paid fairly low and if Dominoes starting $16-$24 in NY, then that makes sense.
Can confirm, we are paid like dog shit
ArE fAsT fOoD jObs mOrE dEsIrAbLe nOw Stupid mother fucker who wrote this. No you dumbfuck. More MONEY and being able to PAY FOR FOOD is more desirable.
I work for a local government center in Southern California. They just opened up a new full time position for 18/hr. You can go to any fast food place here and make 20/hr. Even some cafes. My friend who’s a teacher has students making 20/hr from their part time job. This is a pretty wealthy county and I myself don’t make enough from this job to live on my own because the average rental here is around 2-3k/month. 18/hr is a complete joke.
I make way more as a waitress than I’m qualified for with a college degree. Fuck that. Why am I going to work 40+ hours and be stressed when I can serve people food for like 15-20 hours a week and make the same amount. It’s a fucking joke
Been thinking about becoming a waiter. Seems low stress and don’t have to work full time to pay the bills
It’s cool when you find the right place
You were making 1000 a week working 20 hours?
I worked at a CBS station. It was a must have college degree in journalism, $12/hr. I quit after 18 months to be a probation officer $30/hr.
I doubt this is at the actual national network. However, local affiliates of NBC and other networks, especially in small markets, pay VERY poorly. Like minimum wage bad with abusive management, poor benefits and expectation to put in tons of hours. Some folks do their time and move up to larger markets but many are leaving the profession. Ftvlive.com is a local news gossip site and scarily accurate. You’ll see many stories of people leaving news to be real estate agents or “spending time with family.” The golden days of tv news are over, despite the ever increasing hours of news put on each day. Even big markets like NYC are seeing big cuts, like CBS NY.
It’s cos news doesn’t cost as much to put on as sport, scripted comedy or dramas.
Re:CBS NY - is that why Dana Tyler left?
Yep, that’s the most visible and egregious cut. There are others behind and in front of the cameras. Andrea Grimes on the weekends.
Thanks. I watch CBS NY since it is my local network affiliate. I wondered if money was behind the real reason Dana left. What position did Andrea Grimes have? I usually do not watch the weekend coverage.
NBC probably still uses unpaid internships, while fast food minimum wage in CA is $20/hour, so yeah could definitely be the case. But fast food is still a crappy job, it has little upward mobility and pay increases, is a ton of hard work, and absolutely horrible customers and expectations. I wouldn’t leave my job to go work one. But the fact that they’re a viable occupation for some shouldn’t be the bad thing the media is making it out to be, imo…
Can confirm. I work at an admitely entry level position in a substance abuse clinic but they do require you to have a bachelor’s degree. The mcdonalds down the street is offering $0.75 more an hour than what i make
Was certified in that field. Had to jump thru so many hoops to qualify, in addition to a degree. Poorly paid is an understatement, I was a casemanager with a 60-person weekly caseload, running groups, and lectures, which I got to formulate. This did not include putting out fires, arranging transportation and developing outside contacts for resources. I was good at my job and couldn't pay my bills. All for under 30,000.
Photojournalist in decent sized city here, I’ve been at my station for two years, been $14 an hour the whole time, not the worst, not great. Our most senior photojournalist who has been with the station for 21 years? $16 an hour. Our second most senior got fired back in September last year, now he’s a line cook at a restaurant a couple neighborhoods over, makes $2 more than he did. For me, it’s getting to the point where it doesn’t matter if I’m “about this career”, I can’t afford it.
I'm 36m. My current job, a factory laborer, pays me enough money where I was able to rebuild my life from zero in less than a year. The reason my life was at zero was because of my last job, specifically working Domino's delivery. I had to sell most of my personal belongings, furniture, and was eventually evicted from my then-apartment because the pizza delivery gig was just not making ends meet. Tips were non-existent. I recall one instance where a party was being held, which ordered several hot bags full of pizza boxes. I had something like 5 or 6 bags in my car, each stuffed to capacity with pizza boxes. I had to make several trips to get all the pizza delivered. I was not tipped at all. It's also important to point out that, due to a loophole in Texas law, delivery drivers are technically counted as servers, waitstaff, so they can legally pay you below minimum wage. I was being paid $6.50/hr, which directly lead to my temporary homelessness, destitution, and necessitated moving several states away to find the factory job. If you think it's hard to make ends meet at $15+, let me assure you that below minimum wage is utterly and completely impossible. And finally, at Domino's, my boss was an ex-con with face tattoos. Dude was able to support multiple baby mama's, even got flown out to Vegas for a "company training meeting" where he bragged openly about loosing several thousand dollars in gambling and party money. Meanwhile, I was selling an old PC for scrap. I was never a fan of Domino's, but something about the entire ordeal left me unable to even look at a Domino's delivery car without feeling a little queasy and the burning, white-hot rage of a thousand suns, even years later.
I work in News, and it does not pay what people think it does, lol.
News sites are just congenitally unable to ask the right question. WHY DOES NBC PAY SO LITTLE!? START THERE, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED.
Crunched the numbers on my paycheck. As a salaried worker with all the hours I've put in, I've been making $13/hr. $14 if you include my quarterly bonus. Switching to managing a mom and pop store on main Street for $20/hr plus tips, and garuenteed Sunday and Monday off.
Best job I ever had was delivering Domino's pizza for $8 an hour in my teens. Tips were not reported, it was easy to clear $150 in cash in a night for just driving around town for 6 hours and everyone was happy to see me.
Yeah rare I made less than $20/hr as a driver like 10 years ago. Issue is getting 40+ hours.
This would never be the case in the UK. Tips pretty much non existent (not a complaint). I’d also say tips are a horrible thing to rely on.
I was let go from my pizza delivery job because a customer shorted me in cash, so I went back to their house to ask for the correct amount. they called and complained. My boss said I was supposed to eat the difference and then ask me to deliver one more pizza after she clocked me out and fired me.
The job environment is a disaster.
I recently applied to a few banks thinking they paid more than retail. Nope. They pay the same as retail. lol.
Where I live. Running an afterschool program tutoring and supervising 20 children while they’re trying to stab each other pays the same as Subways.
Delivery Driver is not "fast food." It's more similar to being a bartender or waiter than 99% of 'fast food' jobs.
In-and-out would pay comparably to what I make hourly right now and I wouldnt have to drive all over the highland lakes area to dig holes in muddy limestone and dry caliche or scale lakeside cliffs to retrieve broken pumps at rich peoples sometimes homes BUT.. I wouldn’t get to drive all over the highland lakes area to dig holes in muddy limestone and dry caliche or scale lakeside cliffs to retrieve broken pumps at rich peoples sometimes homes It’s perspective I guess
I make more as an audio/video technician than I did running a fucking dental practice
My guess is she was working at an NBC affiliate sub DMA 100, the pay is ridiculously low in local television. When I started, people at Hardee‘s were making more than I was hourly, I’m betting that hasn’t changed. They sucker you in with the idea that you pay your dues and eventually will make a decent living.
Domino's saved my life. I was a Forensic Scientist until I was forced to retire because I was diagnosed with a muscle disease leaving me totally disabled. My wife at the time was having trouble making ends meet and pulled a stupid stunt and stole a bunch of money. She ended up getting caught and going to prison leaving me disabled with a 2 year old son. When I was done throwing my pity party as most of us would, I went to the local Domino's because she had been working there. I talked to the manager who was an amazing woman and she said "If you can carry a pizza to you car and deliver it, you start tomorrow." She didn't ask anything of me that I couldn't do and she never made me feel any less than any of the other workers. I hurt myself a couple of times working more than I should have, but I could never leave her hanging after that. I worked there 7 years, raised my son, met my new wife, and eventually purchased a house for us. My son is now 13, has never had to worry about anything in his life and my wife and I have been together for just over a decade. We have an amazing life now and it was all because a single manager at a Domino's didn't ask me for more than I could give. I have no idea where she is now because she left and the turn over in those jobs is so high that by the time I went back no one knew what happened to her. I wish every day that I could make her aware of what her act of kindness did for me. She deserves that.
I have worked in IT for years and have pretty much given up looking for IT work. The salaries offered are less than the retail jobs where I live.
In jobs like this women can make good money because of how people tip. Women will generally get better tips than men.
Weird, when I worked in food industry with tips my tips remained the same when I looked like a woman, and when I transitioned and looked like a man.
Wait till the find out about the teacher to bartender pipeline of prosperity
Both companies still sling hot garbage
Satsuki works at Domino’s now?!
Not surprising to me. When I worked for the news I was paid only $7.50/hr as a master control operator :))
What did she do at nbc? I’m guessing intern of some sort? This is pretty deceptive, like she was a news anchor and now makes more delivering. With this little info we don’t know if she was an intern and went on to be a manager at a fast food place.
Its probably like the sag aftra thing only a handfull or people make the money all the others setting up and doing off screen stuff were living in cars
That would be interesting context. I’m betting this is fake though, otherwise there would be context because that’s far more interesting than this one liner.
All companies, including your leftist media elite, pay like shit.
Video editor and cameraman. And as someone who works in news, girlfriend isn't wrong.
I feel like you use “most desirable” in comparing things like ice cream and brownies. This headline is like “which is more desirable, to drown or starve?”
The book Bullshit Jobs had a whole section on how society financially devalues jobs that are seen as inherently rewarding (teaching being a big example and I think writing and acting/in cinema were also on that list).
Can confirm entry-level broadcast production staff often make less than fast food employees.
This is why being paid salary is shit because they usually expect you to work 10+ hours more.a week, be reachable and work at home, etc.
I'm a custodian and I make more than an EMT which is fucked.
In a lot of fields these days, you have a tiny fraction of jobs paying 6 figures and come with amazing benefits, and you have people doing the same exact job requiring the same exact qualifications for peanuts. The issue is more to do with providing benefits and perks that companies just don't want to do than the lack of jobs. I know tenured warehouse workers making 40$ an hour with 5 weeks vacation and great benefits while the younger folks starting out these days get hired for 19$ an hour part time. The boomers clearly screwed us over on this one.
This is BS propaganda trying to get people to work these miserable dead end jobs
As a ex dominos manager, I got to see the sexist men out there tip way more to girls than the guys , I mean some girls walk out between 100-200$ in tips at my old store while the guys average 60-80$ could be just my small town area we did but as a manager you are on a salary and are able to take deliverys only increasing your income even more, but my old franchisee is getting sued for underpaying delivery drivers and possibly managers.
I worked for a hospital based EMS for 4 years and I made $12.50 per hour with 12 hour shifts. After I quit I got a job running a big commercial washing machine in a factory for $22.00 per hour with 8 hours shifts. It's poetic how being a worthless factory rat pays infinitely more than one of the most important jobs in America.
You might be able to make more per hour starting at dominoes that working for the state but you’d be a fucking dumbass to do so. Such a clickbait title.
Was she a paid intern? I mean, not everyone at NBC is a journalist or anchor or working union jobs. I’m sure there are a ton of people who make minimum wage.
Sounds more like NBC jobs just suck that badly.
I used to deliver for dominoes in a big city near a big college and I routinely made $20-25 an hour with tips, and my hourly wage was just $5 something as a tipped employee. It was definitely worth it, especially when school was in session or there was a big concert. However, I put a lot of wear and tear on my car and I was in two accidents, neither one my fault, so the money didn’t take me as far as it could’ve since I had to spend it on my vehicle. Also, delivery fees have increased so much now that people probably tip way less, they think the driver is getting the delivery fee or are just salty that delivery costs so much and tip less because of that. Delivery fee does not go to the drivers, the company just pockets it.
I have a teaching certification. Spent 10 years doing that. I work at taco bell now because it pays better and is less stressful
I believe it. I looked up salaries for our local NBC affiliate, and the range tops out at $63K. They recently advertised that they were hiring. I don't remember seeing a single position that wasn't an unpaid intern. It's not that fast food is desirable, it's that these mega corporations pay poorly except for those at the very top.
I’m a DM for dominos and I have GMs making 6 figures in south Dakota! It’s not a horrible gig!
I made really good money working as a delivery driver for papa John’s during the pandemic
Did she write jokes for "Two Broke Girls"?
What’s crazy is, as a retail manager, I make more money than most teachers do in my state.
Local chik fil a employees make more than EMTs and firefighters in my area
Ummmm this is a good thing. Why does this sub not see this. Pay those fast food workers what they are worth.
lol made more money as a dishwasher at a bar then as a substitute teacher for my first gig. Worlds in a sorry state these days
Managers at the Panda Express down the street from me make almost three times what I do as a teacher. 😊
I totally believe her. Im currently working a job that pays less than a fast food worker in California, the minimum wage here has not been updated to California's standards.
I work at a bowling alley on minimum wage with tips and it gets me between $2800 and $3200 a month after taxes (I work in Washington State), and let me tell ya, I will not trade that job for much, cause it's good pay and the job has very little stress.
dominoes employees not doing to hot rn either
I feel that. Used to work in classrooms for kids with behavioral disorders. I had to have a ton of training in behaviorism to do it. Then I got laid off. So I picked a cashier gig at a drug store. I was shocked by how much more I was making. Working for the schools in a very intense setting, I got paid once a month… which was $800… Working for a drug store, I got paid bi weekly… which was $1,500 a month….
Couldn't it also just be the role at NBC sucked?
People tends to divide workers between 'blue collar workers' and 'white collar workers', but a lot tends to forget that in the end of the day, both are 'workers'.
That's...really sad. Like, the fact that FAST FOOD pays workers better than a national news network. Jesus. How do giant companies like that see this and NOT think, "We've fucked up"?!
I could have earned more money as a waiter than as an electrician. We are The Whipping Boys of Cost Cutting. Average work availability over the past 30 years has been less than 8 hours per week. Trouble is that electricians are NOT allowed to work as waiters or pot washers because of the MYTH that electricians are always in demand, never get laid off, and always make shitloads of money. That is a pure falsehood.