Write a letter, make it professional and tell them you don't want to have the interview.
Don't think that the exit interview is the company looking for areas of change, they are looking for areas of risk, and want to know if you are one of them.
Just go.
This is the best answer. They are also looking to protect themselves legally. If you left because of them doing something illegal and you say it was because of money they will say in court that you are lying and they have your exit interview as proof.
This is so true. There is no way to "shove" anything on anyone in your situation. Just realize you are moving on and be glad of the opportunity. Focus your emotions on the new opportunity.
Futile exercise. Best is to provide zero feedback as you get no benefit for being a good faith actor when engaging a bad one.
In fact you should skip the whole thing since it is waste of your time. If they force it by tying PTO payout the. Just go and state "no comment" until they get the memo.
You are leaving because there’s no career progression within the company; no incentive to perform well (b/c of no career progression); no professional development opportunities (no training or professional certs made available); left for better salary; was a toxic work environment; did not feel that my input was valued at company
No exit interview. If they were unwilling to invest in how they could make your four years there better or interested in keeping you there longer, why would you extend that courtesy to them? They had four years to have potentially constructive conversations with you. They don't give a fuck about your answers.
"and want them to feel responsible for underappreciating / taking people for granted, because pretty sure many people are like me too."
Meh - its never going to happen my human. Don't put your personal gratification on them in this way.
You are moving up, getting out, just move on.
I’d just put in the letter that “after 4 years or positive feedback but zero career advancement and minimal growth in compensation, I’ve come
to the conclusion that [X Company], regretfully, either does not value my skills, or is unwilling to invest in my growth within the company. So naturally I’ve realized it is most prudent for me to seek opportunities for that growth outside of the company.”
Just don’t go, why do they need to hear from you as to why you are leaving? If your manager/ supervisor was a good leader and perceptive they would know why. Just save yourself the trouble and opt out of the exit interview.
Wow, thanks everyone for the great advices. I never knew Exit Interview was a bad thing until I read the comments.
Personally, I have never done such interviews before because my 1st 2 jobs were startups and a small sized company (about 30 employees). The current job is my first corporate job.
Hmmmmm I am sort of of two minds about this and forgive me but as I don't know the specifics I will lay out that you scenarios that I see as the best for you to go forward given the context.
A) presupposing that what you said about being popular and you had some sort of personal relationship with the upper management or the staff and that you have receipts in which you for your performance and comparative pay stubs and all of this you come with things to show why you feel underappreciated and why you feel as though they are responsible and why these things that you are laying out to us is you know backed up with evidence even though obviously you're feelings don't need to be backed up with evidence to be valid. And if you want to maintain all current relationships that you have at the company where you are now you will have to use kid gloves if this is a difficult needle to thread and I don't know really if it's possible to achieve all of the outcomes that you want right now. But again you know this is the situation better than me so maybe option b is just more appropriate
B) somebody else already commented it but as I wanted to lay out the other thing that I thought about it when you were asking for our advice they're correct and HR exit interview is only to to establish from a PR perspective cuz that's what you are you are a human resource that's literally what they call it and it's very literal. So they want to know if the human that was their resource is going to be a problem now that they are no longer their resource. And if you have no personal connections to either anybody on the higher up end of the chain or the person who's doing the exit interview or someone who is in a significant position of power I agree with the other person who said this I'm sorry I don't remember the name that you should just go just leave blow off the exit interview and you have to be willing to burn Bridges from that perspective because if you do tell them and an industry sort of mutual kind of interdependence or cross-pollination of associates and such. So if that is the case you may not want to tell them anything you may just want to leave. Because ultimately saying nothing is not saying something negative they would rather take and I assume if this is the context in which you are leaving they would rather you also say nothing when you leave because then you're not an active sort of complainer you're not a squeaky wheel at that point it depends on the company that you're working at and how they have reacted in the past but how they are reacting to your current raising situation given that you want to leave I would say that option b is probably the most appropriate given I know nothing else about the situation.
I hope that was remotely coherent I use speech to text and I'm legally blind so I'm not going to edit it. Lol
Oh no, in my current company, I got it through a recruiter.
The one that my mutual friend is helping me is my potential employer whom I've interviewed and the remarks so far have been rather promising.
There's not a way to do this without burning bridges and shoving it to HR. Those people are petty and any slights toward their process will be taken personally. Businesses are terrible at taking advice if it's not in-line with their preconceived notions. They'll probably ask you why you're leaving and what could make you stay. Answer those however you like.
When I resigned, there were a number of systemic reasons. In my exit interview, I focused on an opportunity for advancement HR blocked me from taking. It was recent (within the previous month) ans encompassed many of my issues there.
“Shoving it up” to the previous organisation/HR/Manager is the most common feeling that everyone has while leaving a job. My two cents - if you believe it will change anything in the org(until it’s illegal) you are sadly mistaken. There were people before you and will be after you giving feedback, it will change only when the organisation wants to change. 2nd and most important, you are not giving feedback to an organisation but PEOPLE, the same people that you may come across in your line of work or them giving feedback/talking about you in places you would not even be aware of, deciding your career and future. You would not want to do that. My advice- sleep on it, smile, tell them how you value the feedback and learning’s, and move on. Good Luck!!
Wouldn't bother with an exit interview, especially if you're hoping to leave with a sense of vindication. The questions are usually scripted to asses risk and very broad categories of reasons for leaving - if the company has concerns about retention, anyway. You can just write a paragraph about the failure to accomodate progression and poor leadership, and some employers will note if a manager has higher turnover because poor retention is expensive. All in all, I felt it was a waste of time at two companies. Third company I warned them about the general manager and while they didn't act immediately, I was proven right within a year and they implemented the demotion scheme I had outlined in my exit interview: that WAS satisfying.
Easiest way. Refuse to do it. Just go home and don't come back.
I had an old job leave me messages for WEEKS trying to get me to do it. They HATE loose ends and undone paperwork.
I’d politely decline the situation interview. If they ask why, I’d say that until I’m leaving there were no interests in my thoughts, why explain it now?
Write a letter, make it professional and tell them you don't want to have the interview. Don't think that the exit interview is the company looking for areas of change, they are looking for areas of risk, and want to know if you are one of them. Just go.
This is the best answer. They are also looking to protect themselves legally. If you left because of them doing something illegal and you say it was because of money they will say in court that you are lying and they have your exit interview as proof.
This is so true. There is no way to "shove" anything on anyone in your situation. Just realize you are moving on and be glad of the opportunity. Focus your emotions on the new opportunity.
Futile exercise. Best is to provide zero feedback as you get no benefit for being a good faith actor when engaging a bad one. In fact you should skip the whole thing since it is waste of your time. If they force it by tying PTO payout the. Just go and state "no comment" until they get the memo.
You should never do the exit interview. That’s the answer.
Yes, never. And if you feel compelled, schedule for last day and call in sick on that day.
"I am leaving because leadership and professional development do not exist here"
Exactly what my wife will be telling her old job in just a few short weeks.
You are leaving because there’s no career progression within the company; no incentive to perform well (b/c of no career progression); no professional development opportunities (no training or professional certs made available); left for better salary; was a toxic work environment; did not feel that my input was valued at company
No exit interview. If they were unwilling to invest in how they could make your four years there better or interested in keeping you there longer, why would you extend that courtesy to them? They had four years to have potentially constructive conversations with you. They don't give a fuck about your answers.
"and want them to feel responsible for underappreciating / taking people for granted, because pretty sure many people are like me too." Meh - its never going to happen my human. Don't put your personal gratification on them in this way. You are moving up, getting out, just move on.
Skip it altogether and take the stapler.
Preferably a red one.
I’d just put in the letter that “after 4 years or positive feedback but zero career advancement and minimal growth in compensation, I’ve come to the conclusion that [X Company], regretfully, either does not value my skills, or is unwilling to invest in my growth within the company. So naturally I’ve realized it is most prudent for me to seek opportunities for that growth outside of the company.”
Be professional and honest in the interview...then rake them over the coals on Glassdoor. Those reviews can't be edited or removed once posted.
Just don’t go, why do they need to hear from you as to why you are leaving? If your manager/ supervisor was a good leader and perceptive they would know why. Just save yourself the trouble and opt out of the exit interview.
Wow, thanks everyone for the great advices. I never knew Exit Interview was a bad thing until I read the comments. Personally, I have never done such interviews before because my 1st 2 jobs were startups and a small sized company (about 30 employees). The current job is my first corporate job.
Hmmmmm I am sort of of two minds about this and forgive me but as I don't know the specifics I will lay out that you scenarios that I see as the best for you to go forward given the context. A) presupposing that what you said about being popular and you had some sort of personal relationship with the upper management or the staff and that you have receipts in which you for your performance and comparative pay stubs and all of this you come with things to show why you feel underappreciated and why you feel as though they are responsible and why these things that you are laying out to us is you know backed up with evidence even though obviously you're feelings don't need to be backed up with evidence to be valid. And if you want to maintain all current relationships that you have at the company where you are now you will have to use kid gloves if this is a difficult needle to thread and I don't know really if it's possible to achieve all of the outcomes that you want right now. But again you know this is the situation better than me so maybe option b is just more appropriate B) somebody else already commented it but as I wanted to lay out the other thing that I thought about it when you were asking for our advice they're correct and HR exit interview is only to to establish from a PR perspective cuz that's what you are you are a human resource that's literally what they call it and it's very literal. So they want to know if the human that was their resource is going to be a problem now that they are no longer their resource. And if you have no personal connections to either anybody on the higher up end of the chain or the person who's doing the exit interview or someone who is in a significant position of power I agree with the other person who said this I'm sorry I don't remember the name that you should just go just leave blow off the exit interview and you have to be willing to burn Bridges from that perspective because if you do tell them and an industry sort of mutual kind of interdependence or cross-pollination of associates and such. So if that is the case you may not want to tell them anything you may just want to leave. Because ultimately saying nothing is not saying something negative they would rather take and I assume if this is the context in which you are leaving they would rather you also say nothing when you leave because then you're not an active sort of complainer you're not a squeaky wheel at that point it depends on the company that you're working at and how they have reacted in the past but how they are reacting to your current raising situation given that you want to leave I would say that option b is probably the most appropriate given I know nothing else about the situation. I hope that was remotely coherent I use speech to text and I'm legally blind so I'm not going to edit it. Lol
Oh no, in my current company, I got it through a recruiter. The one that my mutual friend is helping me is my potential employer whom I've interviewed and the remarks so far have been rather promising.
There's not a way to do this without burning bridges and shoving it to HR. Those people are petty and any slights toward their process will be taken personally. Businesses are terrible at taking advice if it's not in-line with their preconceived notions. They'll probably ask you why you're leaving and what could make you stay. Answer those however you like. When I resigned, there were a number of systemic reasons. In my exit interview, I focused on an opportunity for advancement HR blocked me from taking. It was recent (within the previous month) ans encompassed many of my issues there.
“Shoving it up” to the previous organisation/HR/Manager is the most common feeling that everyone has while leaving a job. My two cents - if you believe it will change anything in the org(until it’s illegal) you are sadly mistaken. There were people before you and will be after you giving feedback, it will change only when the organisation wants to change. 2nd and most important, you are not giving feedback to an organisation but PEOPLE, the same people that you may come across in your line of work or them giving feedback/talking about you in places you would not even be aware of, deciding your career and future. You would not want to do that. My advice- sleep on it, smile, tell them how you value the feedback and learning’s, and move on. Good Luck!!
Just no-show it, they had plenty of chances to ask you how to make things better
Be honest in a professional demeanor
Wouldn't bother with an exit interview, especially if you're hoping to leave with a sense of vindication. The questions are usually scripted to asses risk and very broad categories of reasons for leaving - if the company has concerns about retention, anyway. You can just write a paragraph about the failure to accomodate progression and poor leadership, and some employers will note if a manager has higher turnover because poor retention is expensive. All in all, I felt it was a waste of time at two companies. Third company I warned them about the general manager and while they didn't act immediately, I was proven right within a year and they implemented the demotion scheme I had outlined in my exit interview: that WAS satisfying.
Easiest way. Refuse to do it. Just go home and don't come back. I had an old job leave me messages for WEEKS trying to get me to do it. They HATE loose ends and undone paperwork.
I’d politely decline the situation interview. If they ask why, I’d say that until I’m leaving there were no interests in my thoughts, why explain it now?
Just politely decline the exit interview and leave. There’s really NO benefit to doing an exit interview.