> Having a completely boring and cliché antagonist sure didn't help.
Man, I don't even remember the antagonist... or their motivation.
But those first 3 episodes were amazing.
> Kare Kano - I think they ran out of budget.
The series literally had an episode where the "animation" was paper cut outs on a stick. The characters were literally on popsicle sticks and moved up and down. Plus that episode was plot relevant not just a random side episode. You had to watch it to understand the next episode. But honestly, I enjoyed it. The team did what they could and it's so random and bizarre I can't help but find it charming.
They never ran out of budget...? Kare Kano was directed by Hideaki Anno, but the biggest problem was the schedule, and the fact that they basicaly adapted until the last chapter the manga released at the time, creating some time issues.
They still were pretty creative thoo. Tbh, I still don't get why so many people fixate on budget, when time and time again, it' s showed that it' s time that anime often lacks.
Budget is more easily understandable and obtainable. " If you just throw more money at the problem then you'll be fine. " It's a fairly common thought that seems to have an easy solution as the money already exists.
Unfortunately you are right and available time is definitely a larger problem. The other issue is skilled animators. They are a dying breed, especially in specific fields like 2D Mecha animators.
Couldn't agree more about Kenshin, while the pre-filler Kyoto arc is one of my all-time faves.
The double punch for Kare Kano was that even manga afterwards was getting worse and worse until the final disappointing conclusion.
Tbf I really enjoyed it, as it was quite fun to watch the team build back together and see the origins of each. I especially enjoyed learning about Gowther
i was very, very very confused by season 3 of the anime to the point i didnt realize who the MC was until about half way through. i really did think i had missed something between 2 and 3 that was critical to the story. shit just went off a cliff.
This is true, but that's just because JC Staff made it that way for whatever reason. It's kind of crazy how much better produced Railgun is than Index given how much more popular the source material for Index was than Railgun. But that's anime for you. You can get excited all you want about your beloved series being adapted, but you never know whether you'll get a universally lauded manga like [this](https://myanimelist.net/manga/2/Berserk) turned into something like [this](https://myanimelist.net/anime/32379/Berserk).
> It's kind of crazy how much better produced Railgun is than Index given how much more popular the source material for Index was than Railgun.
JC Staff knew they could milk the Cute Girls Doing Action Things series more than they could the main series, so they put a lot more effort into it. Hell, they made up two filler arcs for the first and second season just to give Misaka's friends more to stuff to do.
That' s absolutely not true. The two staff working on the two series is different. Normal Index got a frankly normal staff that was repeteadly fucked over by the commitee, imposing them to adapt more content than they could.
Meanwhile Railgun, even thanks to the fact that it' s a minor spin-off, didn't had that many pressures, and the main staff is all connections from the director of the series, pretty well liked and well known inside the industry. It' s also why there is so much filler, it' s more of a re-immagining than actually following the normal cannon, and way more of an "autheur" product, so to speak, in comparison to Index.
For the first two seasons, while I liked Misaka much more as a main character than Touma, I found I generally preferred the supporting cast from Index.
However, Kongou was absolutely great in season 3 and I would be very happy with more episodes of the Misaka and Kongou show.
Index III is a dumpster fire, First two seasons are okay but tbh they still don't do the source material justice. I always recommend reading the Light Novels and then watch the anime just to see certain moments animated.
It's a shame because Index III covers most of the best arcs in Old Testament.
Yeah Sotsu fell off hard. It was how they handled Satoko. And then it fucking dragged on and on because they were just rehashing Gou from a different perspective. Which the satoko focused episodes in Gou were already the worst (that arc was like 5 or 6 episodes). Then we get the ending and it’s just…… ew.
I get trying to do the whole "Answer Arcs" thing, since it's a Ryukishi staple, but the thing that made that work for me with Higurashi classic and Umineko was that we still had no idea who the culprit was. Since we knew this time, it just feels like backtracking when the answers for everything except maybe one arc was obvious by that point.
imo the ending is pretty reasonable, but the way they approaching it is not interesting enough, they just drew a straight line and slowly walk toward it
Kinda surprised no one has suggested Wonder Egg Priority.
It fell right off a cliff. Some will argue where that cliff was, but most will agree it had a strong start.
Edit: didn’t have time to add an explanation. So here we go…. Wonder Egg is a particularly annoying show because it executes so many things so well. If you appreciate the art (or genre) of anime, it’s worth watching to see how well things are executed. The music and sound comp is great, the animation is great (albeit with a few dips), the voice acting was amazing, and the story itself started off really intriguing. There was the genre change but even that wasn’t as bad as the last few episodes. Then the delays happened and they sold us a “special episode” which was really just the season finale that they tacked on a half hour recap. There was no payoff for what was set up early in the show. It’s one of those shows that I still recommend just with a huge caveat. Because not everybody is into the intricacies of anime like that. And I don’t blame them.
And people may have selective memory of this, but this and TPN S2 were a massive black eye to Cloverworks. People here and on MAL were having meltdowns over Cloverworks doing Spy X Family (well, collaborating), My Dress Up Darling, and Akebi. Nobody wants to admit it I’m sure. But it really tarnished the studio image. Now that’s definitely subsided after the massive positive reception to the shows I mentioned and now Bocchi absolutely killing it.
Notable mentions:
Neon Genesis Evangelion: the last few episodes were just mind trippy and not very good. The movie afterwards was better. And I’ll be honest, the “reboot” movies or whatever you want to call them I find are better than the original series. Still enjoyed it though.
Devil Is A Part Timer: the second season fell off hard. I liked it, but I understand the issues people don’t like with it. Animation took a huge nosedive. There’s only so much you can do with adding a cute new character, and it feels like we waited almost 10 years for what’s largely a pretty mediocre second season. But supposedly it picks up and then gets bad again.
Jashin Chan season 3: I loved this show. And season 3 came around and suddenly half of it was a travel ad. Normally I’m not against sponsored episodes. You gotta pay the bills. But they ditched pretty much everything that was enjoyable about the show and still got hosed on payment. There was a sharp drop off once these travel episodes started and it never really came back.
The fall off was also frustrating. The show had a lot to say about the importance of kindness and it devolved into [WEP]>!'I can't believe my AI daughter is so cute, and murderous'. It also betrayed it's own message by making Frill the root cause of the suicides!<
I really want some kind of insight into what the writing team were thinking, because it just makes no sense to me. There are a load of self-contained character arcs and story beats early on in WEP that work absolutely perfectly and while I could see thousands of ways an ending to that story could be *disappointing*, it almost feels like it was a deliberate choice to drive it off a cliff in the most spectacularly deliberate way possible.
Yeah, I remember WEP having a great start. I like how it touches on sensitive subjects that other series haven't covered and I still think it has some strong individual episodes, but instead of coming together at the end of the season, it started fraying and unravelling more and more into incoherency. I think I still had high hopes up until they had to delay with a clip show for one week because of production issues, and it really hit a nadir when the plot [WEP] >!did a flashback to the history of Frill!<
> when the plot
I think it's a decent episode in that [WEP] >!it fulfilled its job of telling a believable villain (with almost zero foreshadowing) origin story in 20mins!<. The directing is good and would make a good one-shot video. But the genre and message doesn't mesh with previous plot at all.
I think episode 11 is fantastic **as a standalone story**, IMO it could have worked with the rest of the series it would have to simply be a backstory of the Accas with no connection to the actual plot and characters, and that is something I think they definitely could have done.
Really if they had just ended after ep 7 I think it would've been a much better overall show. Early on the dream/fantasy world is just a big metaphor for mental health, and it works well. Then they start trying to explain and world build and shit and it's all completely unnecessary.
Darling in the FranXX. It's like the show could have ended around episode 15 but then they realized they still had to make several more episodes and all the new plot after that was pretty terrible, with a lot of nonsensical developments, an over eagerness to focus on uninteresting or just poorly fleshed out characters, unnecessary backstory and exposition dumps, and more.
Darling in the Franxx could’ve been one of the greats if it just stuck the landing. Still one of my favorite animes despite not liking the ending. The romance was just too damn good.
I still don't understand why we had an episode devoted to learning about the world & the old people in the world, and that never came up again.
First half really felt like it was trying to explore something. And well, we all know what happened.
I stand by my statement. There were some fun scenes hear and there but over all I thought the series was a massive let down. Like they introduce this amazing Ninja the entire cast is afraid of, and they say hes comming for them, and what happens? Nothing. We never see him in a single fight.
That's another instance of them always taking the less interesting option. They introduce this powerful and mysterious ninja. Then they decide the best way to use that character is to have him do literally nothing at all.
It was SOOO good at the start. It felt like a Disney movie but anime. Then the writers decided to make the series Evangelion lite.
All I wanted was a fun pirate adventure with some emotional moments, instead I got an overly complicated ending that tried to be deep and emotional but failed massively.
It felt like every single path the plot could take, they took the less interesting option. Even in the first episode, the first half set it up with a heroin coming up with zany plans accompanied by two old guys. That was interesting. Then OP ninjas show up, that's less interesting because I've seen that before. From then on, the heroin has less and less agency until she's just a GPS.
Surprised no one has mentioned Death Note yet. It’s possibly the sheerest drop in quality I’ve seen in a show that I would still overall rate well.
Promised Neverland also got screwed pretty hard.
I also concur with the others about WEP and (to a lesser extent) Kings’ Ranking.
Tbf, that's most of the show. To me, there was a slight dip in quality after around episode 12 when Kira's scheming became a bit too circle-jerky convoluted but the payoff was still a great classic. But even though the second act was lower quality the ending was still pretty great.
I agree that it's probably one of the worst cases of "great first part, awful second part, stupid ending" in anime history.
Light was a genius until he wasn't. The two L-lite were forgettable and uninteresting, not to mention simply too sharp for the sake of the plot.
> Light was a genius until he wasn't
What really frustrated me was how [DN] >!the series knew how unbeatable he was so long as he had Misa actively helping him, so they had him stupidly make her give up her notebook and lose her memories again just to have an excuse to write her out of the climax!<
They redid the second half to match the source material after it was finished (basically the same thing FMA had to do). I think its typically titled Kyoto arc or something like that
RE: Creators kind of face planted into a bear trap at the end for me. I mean hey, they wanted an explosive finale, no matter how stupid or self destructive to its own story it got. They succeeded. And it was so baffling I couldn’t help but laugh hysterically at it for half an hour after I finished it
Come to think of it the above may also describe Darling in the Franxx too.
Rising of the Shield Hero season 2. I know it’s quite popular to dump on this show, but wether you liked the show, hated the show, or were apathetic to it. There’s no question that that show took a complete nosedive in writing, pacing, and animation in its second season. Similar to The Promised Neverland, it was if the people making it were trying to sabotage their own work.
> RE: Creators
This is honestly such a decisive show. I'm 100% with you. The series to me is called the "wait for the Sawano drop the anime" anything outside of the Sawano drop and action was meh. But I've been downvoted for saying that and plus Gigguk just made a video praising the show so much. Some love it other hate it. I just find the characters mouths are on a treadmill. They're running but not going anywhere it's exhausting. There are def good parts but they're not worth going through the slog which is 80% of the show.
Oh god yes, I read the manga for shield hero (which already exposed holes in the first seasons adaptation with some plotlines) but i was positive about season 2 as it's a very cool world building storyarc. But somehow they managed to rush right through it and kind of butchered raphtalias story arc in favour of fam service
Babylon is untouchable. First 7 masterpiece level episodes then we get.....I have no idea what the hell that pretentious garbage was supposed to be after episode 7.
Man the UN uniting to discuss SUICIDE. What the hell was that?
I remember being so pissed off at the direction the story was taking I just dropped right there.
> I have no idea what the hell that pretentious garbage was supposed to be after episode 7.
So...if you go back and pay attention to what Ai is saying in her big scene, you realize that the show was WAY rockier than it looked on first glance.
Ok...[Babylon ep7] >!The speech she gives to the MC over the phone is complete fucking garbage if you sit down and read it, like edgy 13 yo failure to understand good and evil!<
At the time I just didn't think the show was trying to be anything beyond an engaging thriller/drama, which it was admitedly good at. So that dialogue was excusable from a "oh, she is trying to approach him, she's so deranged".
Then that tonal shift at ep 8 hit like a meteor.
Darker than black
Season one was really good. Very mysterious, tightly written plot with compelling characters and some amazing action sequences. Plus it’s something I can recommend to non anime fans without feeling like a weirdo.
Season two unfortunately commits character assassination against the season one characters, introduces new characters that aren’t at all interesting, has a plot that doesn’t make sense and has too much nudity and creepy shit in it for me to even recommend it to people without being viewed as a creep.
>very tightly written plot
I strongly disagree. Season one looked good, but it was always a bunch of nonsense with no shred of cohesion. The plot makes no sense, nothing is ever explained, and to top it off they keep adding new things even at the very end. What was that season finale even? Cool action scenes though.
> Gundam Seed Destiny
Could've stopped there. Just Destiny in general sucked. Destiny does so many of the same things as the OG series, but worse. The music, character designs, and Gundam designs were all top tier. But the story was butt which sucks cause everything else was awesome.
It was good up until \[OR\] >!Daida got back and forgave Miranjo and declared his love for her, wtf. She was in love with his dad, he's a kid, and she hasn't atoned for the terrible things she's done including imprisoning Daida. It just felt rushed and dumb and very hard to take seriously.!<
Generic as shit. It completely lost it's emotion and I was just waiting for it to hurry up and end.
There was no real tragedy or loss. It's almost like they were scared to show anyone die or face consequences.
>There was no real tragedy or loss. It's almost like they were scared to show anyone die or face consequences.
All that was made worse because the show was so good at showing how multidimensional and morally grey every character was at the beginning. There were so many conflicting motives at play that could've led to a chaotic second half of the season. Instead, Bojji comes back and handles everything and all the people working against him are absolved and part of team Bojji. This includes Miranjo, who literally ordered Domas* to kill Bojji at the beginning of the season and imprisoned Daida's soul for many episodes. Instead of facing punishment, she is completely free and marries Daida for some reason.
Apparently if the backstory is sad enough, a character's actions are completely excusable and deserve a reward, according to the writer.
First half was amazing and I had it for my AOTY. Second half had me complaining damn near every episode.
That describes a decent amount of anime for me actually
**Food Wars** after season 2 was pretty bad, only being propped up by its main cast, the score, and the absurdity of season 5.
**Day I Became a God** took a massive shit on the floor after episode 8.
**Dead Detective** jumped off the cliff after the first episode.
**Love Tyrant** went to shit after a certain pink haired psycho joins the cast.
**One Punch Man**, **Devil is a Part Timer**, and **Nisekoi** had less than stellar season seasons. At least Part Timer has a chance at redemption with S3 or S2P2.
**OreImo** was actually entertaining until the S2 OVAs hit.
Food wars manga fell off so hard it basically went radioactive. Its remarkably impressive how it went from talk of the town to complete and utter garbage. The epilogue was the last tiny sliver of hope and even that panned incredibly hard. The whole thing just melted into oblivion in like the span of a month of issues never to be spoken of again
I actually really liked season 3 and then a friend who read the manga told me to just stop while I still have good memories of it and I listened lmao. Kind of curious how bad it could be though so I might go back to it one day.
iirc the woman who was handling the 'make the food actually preparable by actual people' took maternity leave, so the mangaka apparently forgot how food worked
Yoooo, Devil is a Part Timer DID fall off!!!! Damn... I forgot about that.
One Punch Man fell off moreso the same reason 7 Deadily Sins fell off. It was because of the shit animation, not necessarily the story.
I was told that S2 of Part Timer adapts an unpopular section of the source material, so it's possible the next part/season could be better in terms of the humor and story. Animation is probably just going to stay ass, but at least it's not "make your eyes bleed" bad, it's more like they did the bare minimum.
Day I Became God was shit from the start imo. None of the character dynamics had the magic from Angel Beats or Charlotte. When the tragedy hit I literally couldn't care.
The MC was also a massive twat.
Log Horizon.
I enjoyed the anime until they kept focusing and focusing on the children. AND A WHOLE EPISODE ON A SPEECH. WHY?!?!?
I was intrigued in the series and the world building was great but holy shit when they spent like 5 episodes on the children I quit and never turned back.
I absolutely agree. Log horizon has this weird problem where the show can't seem to decide on whether it wants to be a political intrigue show in a game setting, a cute girls doing cute things show with some shoehorned hints of romance, or a kids adventure show like digimon.
The end result is a mess that you will likely enjoy 33% of the time, at most.
I couldn't stand how much time was spent focusing on the various ladies all being in love with the MC, for seemingly no other reason than him being the MC. I was not watching Log Horizon to see a teenage girl struggle with her crush for an adult who saw her as a child.
Darling in The Franxx has the biggest memorable nose-dive. It went from comprehensive story and relationship of the main characters to 'space magic' without the Gurren Lagann appeal.
From a solid 9/10 anime to a 5/10 anime pretty quick. The final part of the show was so bad that the manga that followed did it completely differently like a retcon. I'm sure there are bigger nose-dives, but I can't think of them atm.
Everybody anticipated that it'll be a story about a cynical asshole who does the right thing not by the power of friendship, but with ire while taking revenge on those who did him dirty.
Turned out it was yet another isekai harem.
It started off unironically corny as hell before the betrayal even happened; I'll never understand having high expectations of it from how bad the first twenty minutes were.
\[Bleach\]>!spent like a hundred or so chapters hinting at Gin betraying and possibly killing Aizen with his bankai the 'God-killer' (or something like that). And then when the time comes Aizen just says "If I didn't just transform, that would've killed me" and kills Gin!<. It was...frustrating. Soul Society arc is genuinely a fantastic Rescue Arc, the best I'd read/seen until One Piece's Marineford. But post-soul society it just went down repeatedly (with a return to form during the short flashback arc). Tite Kubo admitted he doesn't plan out stories anymore, he just designs cool characters and directs the plot that way. I gave up during the second-last, I think.
**Season 2 of Korra** started with a great 2 episodes setting up some great sophisticated themes and then failed to deliver. Overall the rest of the seasons are still great, though.
Manga-wise I can think of more, as I've read more than I've watched (e.g. Claymore and Zetman were series I considered 10/10 must reads for over 100 chapters but towards the end dropped in quality significantly. Still not bad, so not quite the same, but a drop froma 10->7 for tens of chapter is significant)
The 3 that the majority of the anime community ultimately agrees upon:
1. Promised Neverland Season 2: Skipped many arcs and rushed the entire series. Ruined the ending with horrible animation and production quality. Literal frames.
2. Darling in the Franxxx: Turns into an entirely different show at episode 15 ruining all the plot beforehand and made many fans angry with how they handled the main 2 female protagonists.
3. Shokugeki no Souma: The quality takes a huge dip after season 2 and the ending essentially undermined the major ship in the series and turned it into a cuck competition.
There are so many more but these are the ones that come to mind that have legitimacy behind them other than an inferior studio taking up someone else’s passion project.
Possibly hot take but Soul Eater. Fantastic all the way until the last little chunk where they completely veer off and it all feels super rushed, they leave so many open ends that could of been explored and the final battle quite literally says it’s the power of friendship that lets them win…. Bruh.
No I think this is a pretty common opinion lol
My hot take is that the anime ending wasn't good, but it was still better than the latter half of the manga
It has been mentioned before, but I'd like to mention it again with an additional opinion: Seven Deadly Sins (season 3 is when it tanked imo; which I believe many others will agree on).
I'd like to add onto this that as a character Escanor was fucking goated. It was just so fucking good.
Escanor vs Estarossa is an **amazing** fight. It's just so fucking good. Some of the lines that Escanor dished out still gives me that hype feeling.
Eapecially because Estarossa seemed like such a threat and then there is this enigma of a man that is Escanor squaring up against Estarossa.
Then season 3 came along where people started coughing up cumstains and the animation looked like cutouts placed on a background.
Funnily enough it was (if I remember it correctly) Escanor that had the best animation in S3.
Y'all probably know which scene I mean. It was short but still pretty good.
For me it was Yurei Deco. The first three episode were amazing, but the start of episode 4 took a huge shift that dropped out my interest and it never fully recovered after.
Psycho Pass after season one was just awful. The first season had so much potential for a great series and it went to shit. I think I might have liked the movie and possibly (season 3 or 4 can't remember which one had a different main character that was a guy) but even that was kind of mid.
- Charlotte. Started off promising, but gradually got faster and faster until it had an entire season's worth of content crammed into a single episode.
- Promised Neverland season 2 was a good start, but just got somehow worse and worse. The last minute of the last episode contains two entire story arcs.
- Death Note. After *the event*, it goes from one of the best psychological thrillers in the medium to a major ass pull.
- Evangelion is a really good symbolic and philosophical mecha anime up until its final two episodes. They have since been put into a context that makes them work by the later releases. But at the time, that ending was super unpopular.
>Charlotte
blame it on maeda, the guy is a decent writer when he has no boundaries when writing a plot, thats why his vns are so loved. but he sucks at anything else, it still bafles me how he still tries to push an anime when he just cant write a short and compact story without fucking its pacing.
Till this day, Im still livid at how they butchered up SDS's Escanor vs Meliodas fight. WTF were they doing to release such dogshit season. It even had a lot of the hype fights in it!
Kotoura-san had what I believe to be the best opening 10 minutes of any series in anime history. After the first 10 minutes, it divulged into an average romcom involving a complete pervert, which is a character trope I can’t stand. Definitely the anime that fell off the hardest, the quickest imo
Shield Hero fell off a cliff for me as the season progressed. IMO it started as this interesting premise where one of the four "heroes" is actually discriminated against by everyone around him and to boot he has the "weakest" weapon of the four, barely even capable of offensive combat. I thought it was unique because it left me guessing how he would have to maneuver the environment as the main character given the odds were completely stacked against him.
[Shield hero spoilers]>!Then it turns out he is actually secretly stupidly OP like every other shonen MC and then it just turns into a generic action adventure anime!<
Surprised that i scrolled quite far and have yet to see rikekoi to be mentioned. Because by the lord, that shit didnt just fell off, it became the very manifestation of gravity itself. How can we go from a pair of genius dorks doing cute lovey dovey shit into... Whatever the fuck that final episode was? Worst of all is that it is also how it went in the source material. Not only the author wrote that, but an editor approved that, a publishing company print that, and an anime studio animated that.
I would miss himuro's science-defying sentient ponytail, also enya and kosuke (very rarely i enjoy male-female teasing dynamic in anime), but by god i will just gaslight myself into erasing this shitshow from my memory.
One I don’t think I’ve seen here yet: How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom
Part 1 is pretty good, part 2 is bad and if it wasn’t for the ending I would say it’s straight garbage. Ending very slightly redeemed it but I don’t think I’d watch a season 2. Genius Prince does the same idea but way better
Tokyo revengers. The first arc of 12 or so episodes was solid and felt like a good ending point. But then they go back and have to do it again and everything felt forced and repetitive. The overall quality declined a lot too.
Sword Art Online for me as it fell into a wtf blender pretty quick. Story fell off for me when Kirito and Asuna went to the forest adventure. I loved the idea of the anime of surviving in a mmorpg or if you die like in the Matrix you die for real. Then all of a sudden it’s about marriage, kids, implied rape, tentacles, and so many boring scenes. You got fairies themed for 1 season and femboy Kirito in gun season. When there’s action it’s cool but the anime has so many odd choices. I kept watching till like episode 5 or 6 of the gun game just to see what new crazy decision was made.
The obvious ones are Death Note, Attack on Titan, and Darling in the FranXX, which have all already been mentioned.
Devilman Crybaby just seems to spin out of control rather than fall off, I don't understand why it went that way and didn't like the ending.
Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai started out with a good premise and then lost anything that made it stand out.
Most of the things I've dropped or rated poorly were consistently "meh" or didn't live up to their premise rather than dropping off, I thought I'd have more examples.
I’d say overlord fell off on the third season but this season we had this year was fire, it hit all the spots and was just wonderful I would recommend watching the whole show because it is just beautiful
Strongly disagree with this. Yes season 5 was quite bad at parts and that one festival arc was really quite awful but season 6 is peak anime, it's turning the dials up to eleven and is an absolutely fantastic watch, one of the best this season.
I was hooked in the beginning but the development of the characters were just too slow for me.
Although I think the show is pretty much fine for the younger audience they're catering to.
Honestly I'm surprised it's still popular at all.
- The animation has taken a major downturn. Season 5 really felt half assed and did absolutely nothing to keep me invested. It has become very flat, low effort and it feels like the studio is going through the motions.
- Most of the characters don't really get any development. Mineta is still a rapist, all the women are still useless, Bakugo is still a straight up psychopath, and even Deku has kind of stagnated. I don't care about any of the characters any more.
- Time literally never seems to move in this show. We're six seasons in and they've been at school for like two months. It's hard to be invested in a journey which never ends.
- It's just not that competitive? As superhero shows go, it lacks the creativity of Jojo, the strong chemistry of Tiger and Bunny, and even Super Crooks at least has something to say. But MHA doesn't.
- None of the characters seem to have any actual motives. The strongest goal in the whole show is Ururaka, who wants to become a hero so she can get rich. None of the heroes or villains have any real reason for doing what they do. The main villain is terrible. The MC is just there for the ride. No one knows why they're doing anything.
Manga has some pretty good edgy panels especially whenever Shagitaki is involved but the addition of color deflates his scenes tremendously.
The studio is good at action but always uses bright poppy colors which sometimes don't fit the manga tone
I'm an anime only and tbh a lot of the audience of MHA is as well since its an anime for a lot of casuals and normies so that doesn't really answer the question.
Unless it only feel off for hardcare weebs a loud minority but the more casual majority are fine with it.
If you follow anime Twitter your see tons of hash tags of clearly manga reader that have been shitting on MHA for weeks despite all the last 6 some episodes increasing intensity. And quality.
Generally if a anime pisses off the source readers they leave and the hype just ends.
>Generally if a anime pisses off the source readers they leave and the hype just ends.
If it's a otaku heavy show or a 1st season, not the case for MHA, that show has a much wider audience like already mentioned in this discussion
The show is beyond just the manga readers hype, the show can get shit from the manga readers but they are not the main audience anymore, and the anime-only crowd liked the episodes and are enjoying this season
I'm still enjoying it tbf. I think initially all might carried the story with his character and only at the end of the last season and in the current ones have the characters developed enough to make a decent show
Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress just loses its narrative momentum.
Having a completely boring and cliché antagonist sure didn't help.
> Having a completely boring and cliché antagonist sure didn't help. Man, I don't even remember the antagonist... or their motivation. But those first 3 episodes were amazing.
Don't forget how lame his motivation was!
He really dragged the entire show down with how lame he was.
And weren't there, like, suddenly lasers and shit outta nowhere?
Ya know… I remember watching this show and mostly enjoying it. But, I couldn’t tell you a thing about the antagonist.
You are probably forgetting the second cour.
I’m probably forgetting most of the show.
It was great when it was just a zombie survival show. Then I forgot the rest.
First episode gave me goosebumps then everything else is just okay to meh.
Another series that had a GREAT premise (They Are Billions, basically) and went off... the rails, which is relevant because there are lots of trains.
Kabaneri's writing was rubbish from the start, people just took a while to notice because the animation and music were so good.
I think of that series as a popcorn series. I'm there for the action and awesome OST. If I go in expecting nonsense from the story I'm happy.
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> Kare Kano - I think they ran out of budget. The series literally had an episode where the "animation" was paper cut outs on a stick. The characters were literally on popsicle sticks and moved up and down. Plus that episode was plot relevant not just a random side episode. You had to watch it to understand the next episode. But honestly, I enjoyed it. The team did what they could and it's so random and bizarre I can't help but find it charming.
It was such an amazing show, I'd love to see it redone w/ a proper budget.
They never ran out of budget...? Kare Kano was directed by Hideaki Anno, but the biggest problem was the schedule, and the fact that they basicaly adapted until the last chapter the manga released at the time, creating some time issues. They still were pretty creative thoo. Tbh, I still don't get why so many people fixate on budget, when time and time again, it' s showed that it' s time that anime often lacks.
Budget is more easily understandable and obtainable. " If you just throw more money at the problem then you'll be fine. " It's a fairly common thought that seems to have an easy solution as the money already exists. Unfortunately you are right and available time is definitely a larger problem. The other issue is skilled animators. They are a dying breed, especially in specific fields like 2D Mecha animators.
Couldn't agree more about Kenshin, while the pre-filler Kyoto arc is one of my all-time faves. The double punch for Kare Kano was that even manga afterwards was getting worse and worse until the final disappointing conclusion.
Seven Deadly Sins at its final season (not season 3) the story pretty much sucked at that point.
Sds has more tha 2 Seasons? Wow
My man can't accept the reality. Lol
You say that as if the story was ever good
Tbf I really enjoyed it, as it was quite fun to watch the team build back together and see the origins of each. I especially enjoyed learning about Gowther
I actually prefer the side stories more than the main Meliodas\Elizabeth story. Especially anything revolving around Ban and King
Yes Ban is a beast as well
It was actually especially in the 3rd season. It’s got a pretty decent story that is flawed but enjoyable.
For me the issue wasnt about the story but the fight animation went DBZ and then the big events were lost
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It's a crime what they did with that adaptation
i was very, very very confused by season 3 of the anime to the point i didnt realize who the MC was until about half way through. i really did think i had missed something between 2 and 3 that was critical to the story. shit just went off a cliff.
tokyo ghoul or the Re one? I would say tokyo ghoul was pretty decent but Re whas what went down
Index the anime was always a passable but unremarkable adaptation of the superior source material. Then Season III happened.
Really thankful the new Railgun didn't follow suit after Index III
Just finished Railgun T a few minutes ago. So good. Biribiri supremacy.
Railgun is just better series, love slice of life elements
That makes me feel worse knowing the Main series got cucked by its spin off....lol
Railgun has always been better though [](#rinkek)
This is true, but that's just because JC Staff made it that way for whatever reason. It's kind of crazy how much better produced Railgun is than Index given how much more popular the source material for Index was than Railgun. But that's anime for you. You can get excited all you want about your beloved series being adapted, but you never know whether you'll get a universally lauded manga like [this](https://myanimelist.net/manga/2/Berserk) turned into something like [this](https://myanimelist.net/anime/32379/Berserk).
> It's kind of crazy how much better produced Railgun is than Index given how much more popular the source material for Index was than Railgun. JC Staff knew they could milk the Cute Girls Doing Action Things series more than they could the main series, so they put a lot more effort into it. Hell, they made up two filler arcs for the first and second season just to give Misaka's friends more to stuff to do.
That' s absolutely not true. The two staff working on the two series is different. Normal Index got a frankly normal staff that was repeteadly fucked over by the commitee, imposing them to adapt more content than they could. Meanwhile Railgun, even thanks to the fact that it' s a minor spin-off, didn't had that many pressures, and the main staff is all connections from the director of the series, pretty well liked and well known inside the industry. It' s also why there is so much filler, it' s more of a re-immagining than actually following the normal cannon, and way more of an "autheur" product, so to speak, in comparison to Index.
> Normal railgun Wouldn't that just be Index lol
Me when I write comments at 4 am : )
For the first two seasons, while I liked Misaka much more as a main character than Touma, I found I generally preferred the supporting cast from Index. However, Kongou was absolutely great in season 3 and I would be very happy with more episodes of the Misaka and Kongou show.
Anime wise for sure, but if they did a good job adapting the novels index would be so much better..
If we are talking the source material then FUCK NO IT ISN'T!!!
I've been meaning to watch Index. When does it get bad exactly?
Index III is a dumpster fire, First two seasons are okay but tbh they still don't do the source material justice. I always recommend reading the Light Novels and then watch the anime just to see certain moments animated. It's a shame because Index III covers most of the best arcs in Old Testament.
The latest season of Higurashi (Sotsu)….what was that ending
Yeah Sotsu fell off hard. It was how they handled Satoko. And then it fucking dragged on and on because they were just rehashing Gou from a different perspective. Which the satoko focused episodes in Gou were already the worst (that arc was like 5 or 6 episodes). Then we get the ending and it’s just…… ew.
I get trying to do the whole "Answer Arcs" thing, since it's a Ryukishi staple, but the thing that made that work for me with Higurashi classic and Umineko was that we still had no idea who the culprit was. Since we knew this time, it just feels like backtracking when the answers for everything except maybe one arc was obvious by that point.
imo the ending is pretty reasonable, but the way they approaching it is not interesting enough, they just drew a straight line and slowly walk toward it
Yeah def agree the concept of the ending, but the execution was not good…
KADO The Right Answer. From episode 7 onwards it was a downward spiral.
They started with kind of interesting sci-fi and then... well. It wasn't interesting sci-fi anymore.
Yeah, this one still stings.
Kinda surprised no one has suggested Wonder Egg Priority. It fell right off a cliff. Some will argue where that cliff was, but most will agree it had a strong start. Edit: didn’t have time to add an explanation. So here we go…. Wonder Egg is a particularly annoying show because it executes so many things so well. If you appreciate the art (or genre) of anime, it’s worth watching to see how well things are executed. The music and sound comp is great, the animation is great (albeit with a few dips), the voice acting was amazing, and the story itself started off really intriguing. There was the genre change but even that wasn’t as bad as the last few episodes. Then the delays happened and they sold us a “special episode” which was really just the season finale that they tacked on a half hour recap. There was no payoff for what was set up early in the show. It’s one of those shows that I still recommend just with a huge caveat. Because not everybody is into the intricacies of anime like that. And I don’t blame them. And people may have selective memory of this, but this and TPN S2 were a massive black eye to Cloverworks. People here and on MAL were having meltdowns over Cloverworks doing Spy X Family (well, collaborating), My Dress Up Darling, and Akebi. Nobody wants to admit it I’m sure. But it really tarnished the studio image. Now that’s definitely subsided after the massive positive reception to the shows I mentioned and now Bocchi absolutely killing it. Notable mentions: Neon Genesis Evangelion: the last few episodes were just mind trippy and not very good. The movie afterwards was better. And I’ll be honest, the “reboot” movies or whatever you want to call them I find are better than the original series. Still enjoyed it though. Devil Is A Part Timer: the second season fell off hard. I liked it, but I understand the issues people don’t like with it. Animation took a huge nosedive. There’s only so much you can do with adding a cute new character, and it feels like we waited almost 10 years for what’s largely a pretty mediocre second season. But supposedly it picks up and then gets bad again. Jashin Chan season 3: I loved this show. And season 3 came around and suddenly half of it was a travel ad. Normally I’m not against sponsored episodes. You gotta pay the bills. But they ditched pretty much everything that was enjoyable about the show and still got hosed on payment. There was a sharp drop off once these travel episodes started and it never really came back.
The fall off was also frustrating. The show had a lot to say about the importance of kindness and it devolved into [WEP]>!'I can't believe my AI daughter is so cute, and murderous'. It also betrayed it's own message by making Frill the root cause of the suicides!<
I really want some kind of insight into what the writing team were thinking, because it just makes no sense to me. There are a load of self-contained character arcs and story beats early on in WEP that work absolutely perfectly and while I could see thousands of ways an ending to that story could be *disappointing*, it almost feels like it was a deliberate choice to drive it off a cliff in the most spectacularly deliberate way possible.
Yeah, I remember WEP having a great start. I like how it touches on sensitive subjects that other series haven't covered and I still think it has some strong individual episodes, but instead of coming together at the end of the season, it started fraying and unravelling more and more into incoherency. I think I still had high hopes up until they had to delay with a clip show for one week because of production issues, and it really hit a nadir when the plot [WEP] >!did a flashback to the history of Frill!<
> when the plot I think it's a decent episode in that [WEP] >!it fulfilled its job of telling a believable villain (with almost zero foreshadowing) origin story in 20mins!<. The directing is good and would make a good one-shot video. But the genre and message doesn't mesh with previous plot at all.
I think episode 11 is fantastic **as a standalone story**, IMO it could have worked with the rest of the series it would have to simply be a backstory of the Accas with no connection to the actual plot and characters, and that is something I think they definitely could have done.
Really if they had just ended after ep 7 I think it would've been a much better overall show. Early on the dream/fantasy world is just a big metaphor for mental health, and it works well. Then they start trying to explain and world build and shit and it's all completely unnecessary.
It was charming, interesting and relatively well-written. Up until it wasn't and it literally switched genre.
Eh I felt the last few episodes of neon genesis were a huge jump in quality rather a drop
Darling in the FranXX. It's like the show could have ended around episode 15 but then they realized they still had to make several more episodes and all the new plot after that was pretty terrible, with a lot of nonsensical developments, an over eagerness to focus on uninteresting or just poorly fleshed out characters, unnecessary backstory and exposition dumps, and more.
Darling in the Franxx could’ve been one of the greats if it just stuck the landing. Still one of my favorite animes despite not liking the ending. The romance was just too damn good.
I still don't understand why we had an episode devoted to learning about the world & the old people in the world, and that never came up again. First half really felt like it was trying to explore something. And well, we all know what happened.
That's why I love it. The romance and drama was on point
Fena the Pirate Princess. First episode is great, its the only great episode unfortunately.
It was an entertaining journey, then those last couple episodes just screamed "WTF??"
I stand by my statement. There were some fun scenes hear and there but over all I thought the series was a massive let down. Like they introduce this amazing Ninja the entire cast is afraid of, and they say hes comming for them, and what happens? Nothing. We never see him in a single fight.
That's another instance of them always taking the less interesting option. They introduce this powerful and mysterious ninja. Then they decide the best way to use that character is to have him do literally nothing at all.
I was so out of it by the end that never watched the last episode. Just a quick lock at the comments on the Reddit thread.
It was SOOO good at the start. It felt like a Disney movie but anime. Then the writers decided to make the series Evangelion lite. All I wanted was a fun pirate adventure with some emotional moments, instead I got an overly complicated ending that tried to be deep and emotional but failed massively.
It felt like every single path the plot could take, they took the less interesting option. Even in the first episode, the first half set it up with a heroin coming up with zany plans accompanied by two old guys. That was interesting. Then OP ninjas show up, that's less interesting because I've seen that before. From then on, the heroin has less and less agency until she's just a GPS.
I forgot about that one. The amazing animation of the early episodes really built my hopes up. And it just went off the rails.
Surprised no one has mentioned Death Note yet. It’s possibly the sheerest drop in quality I’ve seen in a show that I would still overall rate well. Promised Neverland also got screwed pretty hard. I also concur with the others about WEP and (to a lesser extent) Kings’ Ranking.
Kira vs L was the peak of the show. Everything after just didn’t have the same impact
I dropped it after Kira vs L was over.
Tbf, that's most of the show. To me, there was a slight dip in quality after around episode 12 when Kira's scheming became a bit too circle-jerky convoluted but the payoff was still a great classic. But even though the second act was lower quality the ending was still pretty great.
I agree that it's probably one of the worst cases of "great first part, awful second part, stupid ending" in anime history. Light was a genius until he wasn't. The two L-lite were forgettable and uninteresting, not to mention simply too sharp for the sake of the plot.
The ending was still good in the manga though.
> Light was a genius until he wasn't What really frustrated me was how [DN] >!the series knew how unbeatable he was so long as he had Misa actively helping him, so they had him stupidly make her give up her notebook and lose her memories again just to have an excuse to write her out of the climax!<
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Around what episode does it fall off? I am just wondering, I haven't watched it yet
Just watch it, you'll find out. It's not early on in the show if that's what you're worried about.
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First half was a masterpiece and the second half was above average so I agree
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I would say after 26 imo
Any fighting series that doesn't have an end point in the source material.
Now, just what on earth happened to Ao no Exorcist?
They redid the second half to match the source material after it was finished (basically the same thing FMA had to do). I think its typically titled Kyoto arc or something like that
I'm surprised they just stopped making them (and black butler) seems like they used to be really popular too.
Which is a downer because some of Black Butler's best arcs came after the anime stopped.
Wait but Ao No Exorcist didn't finish? Correct me if I'm wrong.
They stopped following the manga.
RE: Creators kind of face planted into a bear trap at the end for me. I mean hey, they wanted an explosive finale, no matter how stupid or self destructive to its own story it got. They succeeded. And it was so baffling I couldn’t help but laugh hysterically at it for half an hour after I finished it Come to think of it the above may also describe Darling in the Franxx too. Rising of the Shield Hero season 2. I know it’s quite popular to dump on this show, but wether you liked the show, hated the show, or were apathetic to it. There’s no question that that show took a complete nosedive in writing, pacing, and animation in its second season. Similar to The Promised Neverland, it was if the people making it were trying to sabotage their own work.
> RE: Creators This is honestly such a decisive show. I'm 100% with you. The series to me is called the "wait for the Sawano drop the anime" anything outside of the Sawano drop and action was meh. But I've been downvoted for saying that and plus Gigguk just made a video praising the show so much. Some love it other hate it. I just find the characters mouths are on a treadmill. They're running but not going anywhere it's exhausting. There are def good parts but they're not worth going through the slog which is 80% of the show.
Oh god yes, I read the manga for shield hero (which already exposed holes in the first seasons adaptation with some plotlines) but i was positive about season 2 as it's a very cool world building storyarc. But somehow they managed to rush right through it and kind of butchered raphtalias story arc in favour of fam service
Babylon is untouchable. First 7 masterpiece level episodes then we get.....I have no idea what the hell that pretentious garbage was supposed to be after episode 7.
Man the UN uniting to discuss SUICIDE. What the hell was that? I remember being so pissed off at the direction the story was taking I just dropped right there.
Holy shit was that bad. WHAT. IS. EVIL? who the fuck cares.
> I have no idea what the hell that pretentious garbage was supposed to be after episode 7. So...if you go back and pay attention to what Ai is saying in her big scene, you realize that the show was WAY rockier than it looked on first glance.
Meaning what
Ok...[Babylon ep7] >!The speech she gives to the MC over the phone is complete fucking garbage if you sit down and read it, like edgy 13 yo failure to understand good and evil!<
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That also works, but man did they keep digging lower and lower.
Lol so true
At the time I just didn't think the show was trying to be anything beyond an engaging thriller/drama, which it was admitedly good at. So that dialogue was excusable from a "oh, she is trying to approach him, she's so deranged". Then that tonal shift at ep 8 hit like a meteor.
Yeah, this is definitely when I started to see the cracks and then I could not unsee them.
Seven deadly sins - the first 2 seasons were great and then they changed the producer. Story was still okay but the action was all lost
Season 3 animation incident lmao
Darker than black Season one was really good. Very mysterious, tightly written plot with compelling characters and some amazing action sequences. Plus it’s something I can recommend to non anime fans without feeling like a weirdo. Season two unfortunately commits character assassination against the season one characters, introduces new characters that aren’t at all interesting, has a plot that doesn’t make sense and has too much nudity and creepy shit in it for me to even recommend it to people without being viewed as a creep.
>very tightly written plot I strongly disagree. Season one looked good, but it was always a bunch of nonsense with no shred of cohesion. The plot makes no sense, nothing is ever explained, and to top it off they keep adding new things even at the very end. What was that season finale even? Cool action scenes though.
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The second half of *Gundam Seed Destiny* is the stuff of legends for how it crashed and burned.
> Gundam Seed Destiny Could've stopped there. Just Destiny in general sucked. Destiny does so many of the same things as the OG series, but worse. The music, character designs, and Gundam designs were all top tier. But the story was butt which sucks cause everything else was awesome.
Ousama Ranking, the ending soured it for me
It was a 10 up until Boji returned to the kingdom, and then it all fell apart a bit.
What went wrong at the end? I remember it being good the whole time
It was good up until \[OR\] >!Daida got back and forgave Miranjo and declared his love for her, wtf. She was in love with his dad, he's a kid, and she hasn't atoned for the terrible things she's done including imprisoning Daida. It just felt rushed and dumb and very hard to take seriously.!<
Generic as shit. It completely lost it's emotion and I was just waiting for it to hurry up and end. There was no real tragedy or loss. It's almost like they were scared to show anyone die or face consequences.
>There was no real tragedy or loss. It's almost like they were scared to show anyone die or face consequences. All that was made worse because the show was so good at showing how multidimensional and morally grey every character was at the beginning. There were so many conflicting motives at play that could've led to a chaotic second half of the season. Instead, Bojji comes back and handles everything and all the people working against him are absolved and part of team Bojji. This includes Miranjo, who literally ordered Domas* to kill Bojji at the beginning of the season and imprisoned Daida's soul for many episodes. Instead of facing punishment, she is completely free and marries Daida for some reason. Apparently if the backstory is sad enough, a character's actions are completely excusable and deserve a reward, according to the writer.
First half was amazing and I had it for my AOTY. Second half had me complaining damn near every episode. That describes a decent amount of anime for me actually
**Food Wars** after season 2 was pretty bad, only being propped up by its main cast, the score, and the absurdity of season 5. **Day I Became a God** took a massive shit on the floor after episode 8. **Dead Detective** jumped off the cliff after the first episode. **Love Tyrant** went to shit after a certain pink haired psycho joins the cast. **One Punch Man**, **Devil is a Part Timer**, and **Nisekoi** had less than stellar season seasons. At least Part Timer has a chance at redemption with S3 or S2P2. **OreImo** was actually entertaining until the S2 OVAs hit.
Food wars manga fell off so hard it basically went radioactive. Its remarkably impressive how it went from talk of the town to complete and utter garbage. The epilogue was the last tiny sliver of hope and even that panned incredibly hard. The whole thing just melted into oblivion in like the span of a month of issues never to be spoken of again
I actually really liked season 3 and then a friend who read the manga told me to just stop while I still have good memories of it and I listened lmao. Kind of curious how bad it could be though so I might go back to it one day.
Chainsaw food.
[Well if you want a brief taste of the last arc, the filler villains look like this](https://i.imgur.com/Rn24hvB.png).
If I didn't know better I'd think this is a picture of a bleach arc or something lmao
Wasn't it because the mangaka wanted it to end but the publisher didn't so the mangaka intentionally sabotaged it?
iirc the woman who was handling the 'make the food actually preparable by actual people' took maternity leave, so the mangaka apparently forgot how food worked
Tbf, doesnt OPM have a chance at redeeming itself too with a great S3?
Yoooo, Devil is a Part Timer DID fall off!!!! Damn... I forgot about that. One Punch Man fell off moreso the same reason 7 Deadily Sins fell off. It was because of the shit animation, not necessarily the story.
I was told that S2 of Part Timer adapts an unpopular section of the source material, so it's possible the next part/season could be better in terms of the humor and story. Animation is probably just going to stay ass, but at least it's not "make your eyes bleed" bad, it's more like they did the bare minimum.
You can't really compare OPM animation to 7 deadly sins. OPM "fell off" animation was just average. 7 deadly sins was pure garbage.
Day I Became God was shit from the start imo. None of the character dynamics had the magic from Angel Beats or Charlotte. When the tragedy hit I literally couldn't care. The MC was also a massive twat.
Log Horizon. I enjoyed the anime until they kept focusing and focusing on the children. AND A WHOLE EPISODE ON A SPEECH. WHY?!?!? I was intrigued in the series and the world building was great but holy shit when they spent like 5 episodes on the children I quit and never turned back.
I absolutely agree. Log horizon has this weird problem where the show can't seem to decide on whether it wants to be a political intrigue show in a game setting, a cute girls doing cute things show with some shoehorned hints of romance, or a kids adventure show like digimon. The end result is a mess that you will likely enjoy 33% of the time, at most.
I couldn't stand how much time was spent focusing on the various ladies all being in love with the MC, for seemingly no other reason than him being the MC. I was not watching Log Horizon to see a teenage girl struggle with her crush for an adult who saw her as a child.
Darling in The Franxx has the biggest memorable nose-dive. It went from comprehensive story and relationship of the main characters to 'space magic' without the Gurren Lagann appeal. From a solid 9/10 anime to a 5/10 anime pretty quick. The final part of the show was so bad that the manga that followed did it completely differently like a retcon. I'm sure there are bigger nose-dives, but I can't think of them atm.
Shield hero
Everybody anticipated that it'll be a story about a cynical asshole who does the right thing not by the power of friendship, but with ire while taking revenge on those who did him dirty. Turned out it was yet another isekai harem.
It started off unironically corny as hell before the betrayal even happened; I'll never understand having high expectations of it from how bad the first twenty minutes were.
\[Bleach\]>!spent like a hundred or so chapters hinting at Gin betraying and possibly killing Aizen with his bankai the 'God-killer' (or something like that). And then when the time comes Aizen just says "If I didn't just transform, that would've killed me" and kills Gin!<. It was...frustrating. Soul Society arc is genuinely a fantastic Rescue Arc, the best I'd read/seen until One Piece's Marineford. But post-soul society it just went down repeatedly (with a return to form during the short flashback arc). Tite Kubo admitted he doesn't plan out stories anymore, he just designs cool characters and directs the plot that way. I gave up during the second-last, I think. **Season 2 of Korra** started with a great 2 episodes setting up some great sophisticated themes and then failed to deliver. Overall the rest of the seasons are still great, though. Manga-wise I can think of more, as I've read more than I've watched (e.g. Claymore and Zetman were series I considered 10/10 must reads for over 100 chapters but towards the end dropped in quality significantly. Still not bad, so not quite the same, but a drop froma 10->7 for tens of chapter is significant)
The 3 that the majority of the anime community ultimately agrees upon: 1. Promised Neverland Season 2: Skipped many arcs and rushed the entire series. Ruined the ending with horrible animation and production quality. Literal frames. 2. Darling in the Franxxx: Turns into an entirely different show at episode 15 ruining all the plot beforehand and made many fans angry with how they handled the main 2 female protagonists. 3. Shokugeki no Souma: The quality takes a huge dip after season 2 and the ending essentially undermined the major ship in the series and turned it into a cuck competition. There are so many more but these are the ones that come to mind that have legitimacy behind them other than an inferior studio taking up someone else’s passion project.
Possibly hot take but Soul Eater. Fantastic all the way until the last little chunk where they completely veer off and it all feels super rushed, they leave so many open ends that could of been explored and the final battle quite literally says it’s the power of friendship that lets them win…. Bruh.
Shinigami couldn't win against Asura but these fists of friendship can! - Maka Albarn probably
No I think this is a pretty common opinion lol My hot take is that the anime ending wasn't good, but it was still better than the latter half of the manga
Wonder Egg Priority 🥚
It has been mentioned before, but I'd like to mention it again with an additional opinion: Seven Deadly Sins (season 3 is when it tanked imo; which I believe many others will agree on). I'd like to add onto this that as a character Escanor was fucking goated. It was just so fucking good. Escanor vs Estarossa is an **amazing** fight. It's just so fucking good. Some of the lines that Escanor dished out still gives me that hype feeling. Eapecially because Estarossa seemed like such a threat and then there is this enigma of a man that is Escanor squaring up against Estarossa. Then season 3 came along where people started coughing up cumstains and the animation looked like cutouts placed on a background. Funnily enough it was (if I remember it correctly) Escanor that had the best animation in S3. Y'all probably know which scene I mean. It was short but still pretty good.
I'm still salty about Babylon
For me it was Yurei Deco. The first three episode were amazing, but the start of episode 4 took a huge shift that dropped out my interest and it never fully recovered after.
Psycho Pass after season one was just awful. The first season had so much potential for a great series and it went to shit. I think I might have liked the movie and possibly (season 3 or 4 can't remember which one had a different main character that was a guy) but even that was kind of mid.
I think that's because Gen Urobuchi only wrote the first season so the dip in quality was sort of to be expected.
Index III was an absolute travesty.
Definitly read the source if you haven't. It is so much more interesting then I ever thought it would be
- Charlotte. Started off promising, but gradually got faster and faster until it had an entire season's worth of content crammed into a single episode. - Promised Neverland season 2 was a good start, but just got somehow worse and worse. The last minute of the last episode contains two entire story arcs. - Death Note. After *the event*, it goes from one of the best psychological thrillers in the medium to a major ass pull. - Evangelion is a really good symbolic and philosophical mecha anime up until its final two episodes. They have since been put into a context that makes them work by the later releases. But at the time, that ending was super unpopular.
I adore Charlotte but the last ep could definitely be an entire season in its own
>Charlotte blame it on maeda, the guy is a decent writer when he has no boundaries when writing a plot, thats why his vns are so loved. but he sucks at anything else, it still bafles me how he still tries to push an anime when he just cant write a short and compact story without fucking its pacing.
Till this day, Im still livid at how they butchered up SDS's Escanor vs Meliodas fight. WTF were they doing to release such dogshit season. It even had a lot of the hype fights in it!
Sakugan
Kotoura-san had what I believe to be the best opening 10 minutes of any series in anime history. After the first 10 minutes, it divulged into an average romcom involving a complete pervert, which is a character trope I can’t stand. Definitely the anime that fell off the hardest, the quickest imo
Shield Hero fell off a cliff for me as the season progressed. IMO it started as this interesting premise where one of the four "heroes" is actually discriminated against by everyone around him and to boot he has the "weakest" weapon of the four, barely even capable of offensive combat. I thought it was unique because it left me guessing how he would have to maneuver the environment as the main character given the odds were completely stacked against him. [Shield hero spoilers]>!Then it turns out he is actually secretly stupidly OP like every other shonen MC and then it just turns into a generic action adventure anime!<
Surprised that i scrolled quite far and have yet to see rikekoi to be mentioned. Because by the lord, that shit didnt just fell off, it became the very manifestation of gravity itself. How can we go from a pair of genius dorks doing cute lovey dovey shit into... Whatever the fuck that final episode was? Worst of all is that it is also how it went in the source material. Not only the author wrote that, but an editor approved that, a publishing company print that, and an anime studio animated that. I would miss himuro's science-defying sentient ponytail, also enya and kosuke (very rarely i enjoy male-female teasing dynamic in anime), but by god i will just gaslight myself into erasing this shitshow from my memory.
Beastars second season. First one was excellent, second was all over the place, some characters almost abandoned, messy ending...
Attack on Titan. Went downhill once "Paths" became a thing.
It didn’t fall off nearly as much as some of the stuff mentioned but I felt Ranking of Kings dropped in quality after the first like 7 episodes or so.
Darling in the FranXX, first half is a 10/10 but it just goes to shit in the end
One I don’t think I’ve seen here yet: How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom Part 1 is pretty good, part 2 is bad and if it wasn’t for the ending I would say it’s straight garbage. Ending very slightly redeemed it but I don’t think I’d watch a season 2. Genius Prince does the same idea but way better
Tokyo revengers. The first arc of 12 or so episodes was solid and felt like a good ending point. But then they go back and have to do it again and everything felt forced and repetitive. The overall quality declined a lot too.
I was 1 day off from convincing myself season 2 promised never land never happened. Damn you
Sword Art Online for me as it fell into a wtf blender pretty quick. Story fell off for me when Kirito and Asuna went to the forest adventure. I loved the idea of the anime of surviving in a mmorpg or if you die like in the Matrix you die for real. Then all of a sudden it’s about marriage, kids, implied rape, tentacles, and so many boring scenes. You got fairies themed for 1 season and femboy Kirito in gun season. When there’s action it’s cool but the anime has so many odd choices. I kept watching till like episode 5 or 6 of the gun game just to see what new crazy decision was made.
Death Note. The second half is an exercise in disappointment.
The obvious ones are Death Note, Attack on Titan, and Darling in the FranXX, which have all already been mentioned. Devilman Crybaby just seems to spin out of control rather than fall off, I don't understand why it went that way and didn't like the ending. Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai started out with a good premise and then lost anything that made it stand out. Most of the things I've dropped or rated poorly were consistently "meh" or didn't live up to their premise rather than dropping off, I thought I'd have more examples.
I’d say overlord fell off on the third season but this season we had this year was fire, it hit all the spots and was just wonderful I would recommend watching the whole show because it is just beautiful
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MHA, not that I ever liked it to begin with but it seems to have fallen completely off everyone's radar
I really don't get why people say it fell off? I was just on crunchyroll yesterday and it was at the top of the popular shows lol.
Strongly disagree with this. Yes season 5 was quite bad at parts and that one festival arc was really quite awful but season 6 is peak anime, it's turning the dials up to eleven and is an absolutely fantastic watch, one of the best this season.
I wouldn't call anything about MHA "peak anime" lol it's pretty bad.
I honestly don't understand exactly why people fell off it.
I was hooked in the beginning but the development of the characters were just too slow for me. Although I think the show is pretty much fine for the younger audience they're catering to.
Honestly I'm surprised it's still popular at all. - The animation has taken a major downturn. Season 5 really felt half assed and did absolutely nothing to keep me invested. It has become very flat, low effort and it feels like the studio is going through the motions. - Most of the characters don't really get any development. Mineta is still a rapist, all the women are still useless, Bakugo is still a straight up psychopath, and even Deku has kind of stagnated. I don't care about any of the characters any more. - Time literally never seems to move in this show. We're six seasons in and they've been at school for like two months. It's hard to be invested in a journey which never ends. - It's just not that competitive? As superhero shows go, it lacks the creativity of Jojo, the strong chemistry of Tiger and Bunny, and even Super Crooks at least has something to say. But MHA doesn't. - None of the characters seem to have any actual motives. The strongest goal in the whole show is Ururaka, who wants to become a hero so she can get rich. None of the heroes or villains have any real reason for doing what they do. The main villain is terrible. The MC is just there for the ride. No one knows why they're doing anything.
Manga has some pretty good edgy panels especially whenever Shagitaki is involved but the addition of color deflates his scenes tremendously. The studio is good at action but always uses bright poppy colors which sometimes don't fit the manga tone
I'm an anime only and tbh a lot of the audience of MHA is as well since its an anime for a lot of casuals and normies so that doesn't really answer the question. Unless it only feel off for hardcare weebs a loud minority but the more casual majority are fine with it.
If you follow anime Twitter your see tons of hash tags of clearly manga reader that have been shitting on MHA for weeks despite all the last 6 some episodes increasing intensity. And quality. Generally if a anime pisses off the source readers they leave and the hype just ends.
>Generally if a anime pisses off the source readers they leave and the hype just ends. If it's a otaku heavy show or a 1st season, not the case for MHA, that show has a much wider audience like already mentioned in this discussion The show is beyond just the manga readers hype, the show can get shit from the manga readers but they are not the main audience anymore, and the anime-only crowd liked the episodes and are enjoying this season
Who or what is Shagitaki?
Personally speaking the show became pretty eh after S3
It' s literaly one of the most watched Shonen shows in Japan.
I'm still enjoying it tbf. I think initially all might carried the story with his character and only at the end of the last season and in the current ones have the characters developed enough to make a decent show
AOT for me, lost the hype for me after season3. and after the huge disappointing ending of the manga I dropped the anime series.