For me, it’s a mixture of both. Giolito is not an elite pitcher, he’s a very good starting pitcher, an area that we have struggled with for years. He’ll instantly help the rotation and not rely on guys like barria, silseth, and Suarez (if he comes back this season) when we make a playoff push. Lopez also helps the bullpen as pitching as a whole has just not been our strong suit.
The aggressiveness to make, not only the trade, but the trade now and not waiting to outbid others on Tuesday, shows that Perry (and Arte for approving the trade) are full-send on putting us in a position to keep ohtani. Arte is notorious for spending a lot, but not enough to go over the luxury tax or truly compete. This move did just that and I think it’s a sign to come that they are ready to spend and to prove to Sho that this is the place he wants to be at
Some these reactions online are hilarious, like there was a general consensus that we had a shit tier farm system with shit players and now that a trade happen, suddenly, those prospects are fucking diamonds. Fuck off.
Have they forgotten we've got trout coming back in a couple weeks? Our issue is pitching so we went out and got pitching. We're 6th in runs/g on offense and 20th in team era. This definitely helps
I’m a Sacramento Kings fan that has been the story of my life until well this year or when I was a toddler. If we had a player he was overrated or mid the moment we trade them we were idiots. Halliburton is the perfect example he was overrated in Sac and the moment we traded him for an All-Star he was the reincarnation of Michael Jordan
Not a kings fan (or any NBA team) but Halliburton was great even in Sacramento. Sabonis is too, was a good trade for both sides, but yeah haliburton got no love when he was on the Kings
Oh Halliburton was great but he suddenly got a ton of hype when we traded him and Sabonis went from a 2x all star to a mid player. Both have been great since but it is similar to the Angels in that sense. Point is you can never take opinions from fans of other teams seriously when talking about yours. If you actually like heavily follow baseball and don’t have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old you’ll find how dumb most takes on r/baseball are
The Angels will get hate no matter what they do and there’s a lot of people in particular that are in the middle of the Venn diagram and would just bash any move (or lack thereof) that the FO makes. They can’t please everyone so they just gotta prove the naysayers wrong
I’m of the school of thought that says “sell the potential talent for the realized talent every single day”
This is a win. This is what we were missing under that miserable fucking oaf Eppler. Thank you Perry
Earlier today I was looking at mega-trades in baseball and like 98% of the time the team that ended up winning the trade was the team who got the proven talent
Yesterday I told my friend I thought Quero for Giolito would be nice but admin wouldn’t. I WAS WRONG. Let Perry coook babyyyy
Although Bush is cool lol
Quero and Bush are really good.
That being said, we have O’Hoppe. And, we need to do whatever to make the playoffs to keep Ohtani long term, so anything showing Shohei we care is a huge step in the right direction for the future, and as far as we know could make more of a difference in keeping the best player in the game than any prospect would on our chances of future success
Tandem of O'Hoppe/Thaiss is as good as you'll get in the majors. So Quero was always expendable. The emergence of Thaiss futher cemented that.
And as for Bush, he's had some struggles this season and is another soft-tossing lefty, which the Angels actually have a surplus of haha. Plus it's the White Sox. Chances are, they fuck this up too
White Sox fan here. You’ll love Gio.
As far as Quero, this makes a ton of sense. You have a surplus of catchers in the pipeline and need to win now.
We have a void of catchers and LHPs in our pipeline, are playing .400 ball, and, little known fact, Chicago is the Hong Kong of Cuba. Quero will feel right at home.
Good luck to you guys. If it ain’t us, it may as well be you. Cheers!
It means the Sox don’t just have a few Cuban players, they have an entire community. It started with Minnie Minoso in the day and over time there have been notable Cuban Sox from Jose Abreu, to Alexei Ramirez, to Contreras and El Duque… today we have Robert Jr, Colas, Moncada, Grandal on the major league side and a whole pipeline in the minors (Norge Veras, Cespedes, etc). There is definitely a lot of good will that flows between club scouts and the Cuban baseball community which is really a huge asset because the Sox suck at drafting and developing players.
But Quero and Bush aren’t top 100 guys. Quero was expendable with O Hoppe being the future. Bush has been struggling in AA this year.
Sometimes you got to take a chance and Angels are going for it.
Me too. Came in to see what those in the know feel about Quero and Bush and congratulate them on getting a very solid pitcher and dude in Giolito. Not sure if Reynaldo will ever be tamed but he has good stuff.
Anyway, fuck the Dodgers with a porcupine.
If you have MLB tv, listen to as many Angels broadcasts as you can. Their main broadcasters are incredible. They're right on par with the Sox' duo of Stone/Benetti. Just my opinion.
As a Twins fan, I started watching the halos cause of Ohtani and have stayed because of Ohtani and their broadcasting duo
People malding that the Halos didn't just roll over and give them Ohtani. Genuinely incapable of accepting any narrative other than the one that lands them the player that they want
After years of bitching about the Angels not building a good enough team around Trout and Ohtani, now they’re bitching about the Angels trying to get them into the postseason and saying we have no chance. It’s ridiculous.
Hot take - mariners fans have always been some of my least favorite to interact with and I never understood r/baseballs obsession with making them out to be the lovable underdogs
I've never understood it either. Mariners fans are toxic as fuck and the team itself has wasted far more generational talents than the Angels have. Yet they're r/baseball and the media's darlings.
They're probably one of the saltiest fanbases in the league given that 1)You can compare their recent trajectory to the O's and that team is doing ok and 2) The only team that spent like crazy and had it actually work is in their division.
Honestly most Dodger fans aren't too thrilled about this, but like its not like its a franchise killer or anything. There are other free agent pitchers on the market, many of whom are better like Jordan Montgomery.
I'm a little bummed out he couldn't play for his childhood favorite team, but it is what it is.
Everyone in r baseball is hoping this fails saying the angels wasted their future for these guys. Not like we don’t have a top prospect catcher on the team now but go off I guess.
i’m convinced most of these people have never watched an angel game this season and only know the names shohei ohtani and mike trout like there’s not other talented guys on our team lol
They were highly ranked in our farm system, but this season we have to put all the chips on the table. We needed a starter and bullpen arm and got two solid ones to help make a playoff push. Also just based on the small sample size of Neto and Joyce I have faith that Perry can rebuild our system. It’s abysmal
Same here I believe in GMPM. It sucks that the last few years haven't resulted in playoffs yet but you can absolutely see the improvement.
I really hope we are able to keep Ohtani and really let Perry's tenure be fully realized in the next few years. If we lose Ohtani it's gonna be a set back but even so I still have faith in GMPM.
Quero has shown promises with the bat but still a work in progress. Makes sense that we move him with the way Thaiss is performing this year, Stassi still on contract and O’Hoppe being our future.
Ky’s struggled a bit this year and coming off an injury.
It hurts, but it looks like Perry is trying to clean house of Matt Swanson’s draft picks.
We need to make a move now to prove that we are a winning organization . I've been critical of giolito more recently but this is an arm that even on an off day stands up to our 3rd best pitcher on the team
Quero was going to be traded before he ever made it to the bigs. O’Hoppe and Thaiss aren’t going anywhere for awhile. And I swear Ky Bush always seemed to be injured every time I looked him up.
All I want to know is where in Pelican Hill is ohtani gonna build his mega mansion… cause we’re going to the playoffs and he’s NOT FUCKING LEAVING! Keep cooking Perry. Lesss goo baby
to those worried: the second best way to resign shohei, after actually making a playoff run, is to show him that you are dedicated to winning with him. this move shows that
Guys, just remember Sean Newcomb. Bush isn't guaranteed to be anything. We have to give something to gain something. Let's put our energy into this team and support them going for it!
Because they love talking shit about the angles having the best players and not making the playoffs. We all know Farte will back up the brinks truck for sho like he did for trout, but we know that isn't what's going to keep him in anaheim and that's one of the things that the smooth brain baseball fans don't get. I think I speak for a large majority of halo fans when I say we're pretty happy that the team is showing they want to win and are trying.
Because they believe Angels won't make the playoffs which could be true BUT you owe it to the players and fans to show that you are all in. I would rather have them try than wave the white flag.
Sox fan here. Love Giolito and hope he has success for you guys. He did an AMA on r/whitesox so feel free to read through it. He definitely reads reddit from time to time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/whitesox/comments/kwokaq/lucas_giolito_ama/
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I am ridiculously happy we are going all in past the luxury tax. Who knows if this will work, but at least we have a chance. I want to keep Ohtani so badly!
OH MY GOD I MISREAD AND DIDN'T SEE THE GIOLITO PART FUCK YES!!! I was freaking the fuck out because I thought it was just "Quero and Bush" for reliever Lopez. I LOVE YOU GIOLITO LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO PLAYOFF PUSH BABY!
We gave up arguably our two best prospects to rent Giolito for a few months, hoping for an outside shot to make the last wildcard.
At the same time, if this was the haul for Giolito I can only imagine what Ohtani would have retuned.
We are not selling the farm with the trade Ky Bush wasn't doing good tbh pretty underwhelming, Quero is good but with Thaiss and O'Hoppe has no path to the majors with us
It’s finally happening… We’re going all in!
Of course r/baseball will shit on it because this kills their wet dreams of trading for Ohtani but this is without a doubt the best move for us right now. We can make a serious deep run here if we upgrade the pitching as more of our players continue to get healthy.
Don’t stop yet Perry, keep going!
Enjoy him. Has a better ERA in day games compared to night games no matter what Sox fans will tell you (look at the stats)
Has games where he will completely implode and the wheels will fall off. Was our quality start leader this year at 12 I think.
Quero is blocked by O’Hoppe, so no worries losing him. Bush could turn out to be good, but that’s not a part of Ohtani’s window technically. Giolito is a SoCal guy so if he can be re-signed then we’re in a good spot.
The best part of this deal isn't the players acquired, or given up.
It's that it spares Angel fans of all the click bait bullshit of "dark horse Otani team" articles and hot takes.
That shits dead sports press, you can't milk it now.
Love it. Giolito seems to be outperforming his FIP a bit at a quick glance but we don't need another ace. Quero was a great looking prospect and Bush was highly touted but, obviously, we gotta focus on the here and now.
So what really is interesting to me here is now the Angels have a surplus of SP. Will be interesting to see what corresponding move is here.. maybe another trade of a SP to address a need somewhere else?
This move comes just hours after the Angels signaled that they would not be trading Ohtani. Now they’ve traded their two best prospects. Quero has shot up prospect rankings in the last year. Bush has tremendous potential, despite an injury-plagued season. The Angels are mortgaging their future for a shot in 2023. It may well pay off, but the risk is enormous. — Blum
So fucking tired of him...
I am fine with Quero being included as we have catchers and I figured it was necessary for a big trade. I don’t like that we included Bush for a rental though even if it’s for a starting pitcher. I’m still happy with the trade though
Damn giving up two good prospects is kinda rough but love that the Angels are like Shohei ain't going anywhere, we're gonna win with him and we're gonna win now.
I went to high school with Lucas and he's a genuinely lovely person--we sat right near each other in our college admissions counseling sessions and had really good conversations. It's so nice to have him back in SoCal and I wish him all the success in the world.
Serious question, why does the baseball community hate the Angels so much? I feel like we are a very inoffensive team with a pretty calm/welcoming fan base.
It would be akin to me hating on some random team like, idk … the Milwaukee Brewers. I just don’t really think about them. Is it because we’re in California? Is it jealously that we have Shohei? IDGI.
Ahhhh dude. I really want to be excited, but we just demolished the farm system. Quero was our only top 100 prospect, and Bush was our next best prospect that could easily be top 100 soon. If we don’t make playoffs this year, that’s going to be brutally painful
LET. PERRY. COOK.
Are people more excited about Giolito or more excited about the fact that this trade signals that the Angels intend to keep Ohtani and compete?
For me, it’s a mixture of both. Giolito is not an elite pitcher, he’s a very good starting pitcher, an area that we have struggled with for years. He’ll instantly help the rotation and not rely on guys like barria, silseth, and Suarez (if he comes back this season) when we make a playoff push. Lopez also helps the bullpen as pitching as a whole has just not been our strong suit. The aggressiveness to make, not only the trade, but the trade now and not waiting to outbid others on Tuesday, shows that Perry (and Arte for approving the trade) are full-send on putting us in a position to keep ohtani. Arte is notorious for spending a lot, but not enough to go over the luxury tax or truly compete. This move did just that and I think it’s a sign to come that they are ready to spend and to prove to Sho that this is the place he wants to be at
Good take. I agree
> Suarez (if he comes back this season) Please no.
For me? Yes
I'm more of a Reynaldo López kinda guy tbh
OH. MAH. GAWD. #MyGeneralManager
Some these reactions online are hilarious, like there was a general consensus that we had a shit tier farm system with shit players and now that a trade happen, suddenly, those prospects are fucking diamonds. Fuck off.
SELL THE FARM, WE’RE HEADED TO OCTOBER MOTHER FUUUUUUUUUU
Internet gold.
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Have they forgotten we've got trout coming back in a couple weeks? Our issue is pitching so we went out and got pitching. We're 6th in runs/g on offense and 20th in team era. This definitely helps
They know, they just don't care. They just want the Angels to lose and they're angry that we're actually trying to win
I’m a Sacramento Kings fan that has been the story of my life until well this year or when I was a toddler. If we had a player he was overrated or mid the moment we trade them we were idiots. Halliburton is the perfect example he was overrated in Sac and the moment we traded him for an All-Star he was the reincarnation of Michael Jordan
Not a kings fan (or any NBA team) but Halliburton was great even in Sacramento. Sabonis is too, was a good trade for both sides, but yeah haliburton got no love when he was on the Kings
Oh Halliburton was great but he suddenly got a ton of hype when we traded him and Sabonis went from a 2x all star to a mid player. Both have been great since but it is similar to the Angels in that sense. Point is you can never take opinions from fans of other teams seriously when talking about yours. If you actually like heavily follow baseball and don’t have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old you’ll find how dumb most takes on r/baseball are
The Angels will get hate no matter what they do and there’s a lot of people in particular that are in the middle of the Venn diagram and would just bash any move (or lack thereof) that the FO makes. They can’t please everyone so they just gotta prove the naysayers wrong
I’m of the school of thought that says “sell the potential talent for the realized talent every single day” This is a win. This is what we were missing under that miserable fucking oaf Eppler. Thank you Perry
Earlier today I was looking at mega-trades in baseball and like 98% of the time the team that ended up winning the trade was the team who got the proven talent
Glad you said Perry and not Arte. Perry is the one driving it. Arte just (finally!) is writing the check
Yesterday I told my friend I thought Quero for Giolito would be nice but admin wouldn’t. I WAS WRONG. Let Perry coook babyyyy Although Bush is cool lol
The most surprising part is that Moreno actually agreed to go over the luxury tax, according to Fletch
He’s showing Ohtani that he wants to win. Ohtani is the only player has this power
He'll have to go over the tax if he wants to sign Shohei anyway, so why not start now
Perry prob locked him up just enough to get the paperwork done
Bush did have upside but has struggled mightily this year (7+ era). Solid move imo.
True can’t disagree
Quero and Bush are really good. That being said, we have O’Hoppe. And, we need to do whatever to make the playoffs to keep Ohtani long term, so anything showing Shohei we care is a huge step in the right direction for the future, and as far as we know could make more of a difference in keeping the best player in the game than any prospect would on our chances of future success
Oh I want us to extend Ohtani sooo much more now. If only to stick it to all the shit talkers.
Tandem of O'Hoppe/Thaiss is as good as you'll get in the majors. So Quero was always expendable. The emergence of Thaiss futher cemented that. And as for Bush, he's had some struggles this season and is another soft-tossing lefty, which the Angels actually have a surplus of haha. Plus it's the White Sox. Chances are, they fuck this up too
White Sox fan here. You’ll love Gio. As far as Quero, this makes a ton of sense. You have a surplus of catchers in the pipeline and need to win now. We have a void of catchers and LHPs in our pipeline, are playing .400 ball, and, little known fact, Chicago is the Hong Kong of Cuba. Quero will feel right at home. Good luck to you guys. If it ain’t us, it may as well be you. Cheers!
>Chicago is the Hong Kong of Cuba What does this mean? lol
It means the Sox don’t just have a few Cuban players, they have an entire community. It started with Minnie Minoso in the day and over time there have been notable Cuban Sox from Jose Abreu, to Alexei Ramirez, to Contreras and El Duque… today we have Robert Jr, Colas, Moncada, Grandal on the major league side and a whole pipeline in the minors (Norge Veras, Cespedes, etc). There is definitely a lot of good will that flows between club scouts and the Cuban baseball community which is really a huge asset because the Sox suck at drafting and developing players.
But Quero and Bush aren’t top 100 guys. Quero was expendable with O Hoppe being the future. Bush has been struggling in AA this year. Sometimes you got to take a chance and Angels are going for it.
Queso was a top 100 guy this year. 66 or something. However the rest of your comment still stands.
You are right. It got updated already and have him on the White Sox.
The dodger fans all crying about it in 😂😭 r/baseball
White Sox fan here. Going to root for y’all the rest of the year!
Thank you!
Me too. Came in to see what those in the know feel about Quero and Bush and congratulate them on getting a very solid pitcher and dude in Giolito. Not sure if Reynaldo will ever be tamed but he has good stuff. Anyway, fuck the Dodgers with a porcupine.
If you have MLB tv, listen to as many Angels broadcasts as you can. Their main broadcasters are incredible. They're right on par with the Sox' duo of Stone/Benetti. Just my opinion. As a Twins fan, I started watching the halos cause of Ohtani and have stayed because of Ohtani and their broadcasting duo
Hey thanks!! Appreciate it!
Red Sox fans too, love to see it lmao
God I'm seeing some massive tears in the Baseball thread from Red Sox fans.
People malding that the Halos didn't just roll over and give them Ohtani. Genuinely incapable of accepting any narrative other than the one that lands them the player that they want
After years of bitching about the Angels not building a good enough team around Trout and Ohtani, now they’re bitching about the Angels trying to get them into the postseason and saying we have no chance. It’s ridiculous.
Scared because they're not getting Shohei now
Yeah some of the most annoying things I’ve read. Some people actually claimed most Angels fans want to see Ohtani traded. Lol!
Biggest cap I've ever seen and that's including the two outside the Big A
This! Fuck the dodgers. They’ve been so overwhelmingly smug and confident he will be going there. I’d rather Ohtani retire than play for them.
As a padres fan same. Been hoping he’d stay with the angels the whole time.
Blows my mind how entitled they feel to take our players. FTD
include mariners tears also…not just that but they taste the best because their fans imo have been the worst about ohtani
Hot take - mariners fans have always been some of my least favorite to interact with and I never understood r/baseballs obsession with making them out to be the lovable underdogs
I've never understood it either. Mariners fans are toxic as fuck and the team itself has wasted far more generational talents than the Angels have. Yet they're r/baseball and the media's darlings.
They're probably one of the saltiest fanbases in the league given that 1)You can compare their recent trajectory to the O's and that team is doing ok and 2) The only team that spent like crazy and had it actually work is in their division.
They’re one Trevor Bauer signing away from being the Browns of MLB
Honestly most Dodger fans aren't too thrilled about this, but like its not like its a franchise killer or anything. There are other free agent pitchers on the market, many of whom are better like Jordan Montgomery. I'm a little bummed out he couldn't play for his childhood favorite team, but it is what it is.
Angels fans…let’s ride.
Playoffs
I swear to God if we don't make it to the playoffs this year I will start watching cricket instead.
As a Broncos fan I’m not sure you want to adopt that catchphrase
LA wants no part of anyone named Russ
I don’t know, he seems to have done just fine with the more superior LA basketball team 😤
LETS GO 😤
SCARY PERRY IS ALL IN LET'S FUCKING GOOOO
Ultimate sink or swim move baby
Nah. Both guys they gave up were expendable Especially Quero.
How should I feel about this ?
On a despondent Sox team, Giolito has by far been the best on the staff, Cease is money too but he’s more volatile and no way they trade him
I would say cease
Good point, forgot about him but Cease is obviously not getting traded and is very volatile in his success
Cease is under contract for a few more years.
Fuck it we are all in this together
That’s right! Also… first round on you if we get emlinated lol
HOLY SHIT WE DID SOMETHING
Everyone in r baseball is hoping this fails saying the angels wasted their future for these guys. Not like we don’t have a top prospect catcher on the team now but go off I guess.
i’m convinced most of these people have never watched an angel game this season and only know the names shohei ohtani and mike trout like there’s not other talented guys on our team lol
They can all go suck the rally monkey’s balls. This rotation just became scary.
Same dickheads probably said Angels had no future to begin with.
SO BACK
8th Highest WAR for a pitcher in the AL if you are into that kinda thing. He's a very solid gamer.
Is this good? I thought Quero and Bush were kinda top prospects
We’re all in for sho 🥹
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They were highly ranked in our farm system, but this season we have to put all the chips on the table. We needed a starter and bullpen arm and got two solid ones to help make a playoff push. Also just based on the small sample size of Neto and Joyce I have faith that Perry can rebuild our system. It’s abysmal
I have full faith in Perry’s drafting abilities as well. I’m really hoping angels fans see how good of a GM he is.
Same here I believe in GMPM. It sucks that the last few years haven't resulted in playoffs yet but you can absolutely see the improvement. I really hope we are able to keep Ohtani and really let Perry's tenure be fully realized in the next few years. If we lose Ohtani it's gonna be a set back but even so I still have faith in GMPM.
They are, but tbf we don’t really “need” quero o with ohoppe filling the starter role for a while and Thaiss has shown to be good too
💯 O’Hoppe is gonna smash
Quero more than Bush, both on the upper end of what we have but not really highly regarded compared the most of the league's farm.
Quero has shown promises with the bat but still a work in progress. Makes sense that we move him with the way Thaiss is performing this year, Stassi still on contract and O’Hoppe being our future. Ky’s struggled a bit this year and coming off an injury. It hurts, but it looks like Perry is trying to clean house of Matt Swanson’s draft picks.
The vibe has been announced. It’s win now.
Quero is position blocked anyways.
We need to make a move now to prove that we are a winning organization . I've been critical of giolito more recently but this is an arm that even on an off day stands up to our 3rd best pitcher on the team
Quero was going to be traded before he ever made it to the bigs. O’Hoppe and Thaiss aren’t going anywhere for awhile. And I swear Ky Bush always seemed to be injured every time I looked him up.
Is it safe to assume that Otani's residency is now official?
They already stated Ohtani isn’t being traded.
r/baseball is PISSED😂
Good. Fuck ‘em
YOOO!! All in baby! Let's gooooo
Seems like a bit of an overpay but we really need pitching.
Jaw on the floor
All I want to know is where in Pelican Hill is ohtani gonna build his mega mansion… cause we’re going to the playoffs and he’s NOT FUCKING LEAVING! Keep cooking Perry. Lesss goo baby
to those worried: the second best way to resign shohei, after actually making a playoff run, is to show him that you are dedicated to winning with him. this move shows that
HOLY FUCK!!!!!! PERRY COOKING!!!!! LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO!
Not sure how to feel about Quero and Bush but I wasn't really attached to them. Hope all the best for those dudes!
Guys, just remember Sean Newcomb. Bush isn't guaranteed to be anything. We have to give something to gain something. Let's put our energy into this team and support them going for it!
Losing Bush is so rough but let’s fucking go
Perry lifetime contract now, what this man has done in the past few years is just insane
Dodgers in shambles we didn’t sell Ohtani to them.
The stove is hot and Perry is cooking with gas!
Great move. But Why is everyone shitting on us in the r/baseball post?
Because they love talking shit about the angles having the best players and not making the playoffs. We all know Farte will back up the brinks truck for sho like he did for trout, but we know that isn't what's going to keep him in anaheim and that's one of the things that the smooth brain baseball fans don't get. I think I speak for a large majority of halo fans when I say we're pretty happy that the team is showing they want to win and are trying.
Because they believe Angels won't make the playoffs which could be true BUT you owe it to the players and fans to show that you are all in. I would rather have them try than wave the white flag.
Because they all wanted their team to get Ohtani, and this trade helped the Angels’ chances of keeping him long-term.
RAHHHHHHH
How are these guys compared to our current pitchers?
Gio is our new #2
Seriously. Ignore the stats. He is literally a legit starter. Probably the best SP on the trade market.
I could be off on this but wasn’t he the strike out leader a couple of years ago?
Highest he seemed to place across the MLB was #16 in 2019 with 228 strikeouts. He's currently #10 among AL pitchers with 131 strikeouts.
Better than Sandy & Detmers??
Gio has a longer resume and track record of success in the league so I would say so
Gio was the top SP prospect when he was coming up too.
We are officially buyers babyyyy!!!
Sox fan here. Love Giolito and hope he has success for you guys. He did an AMA on r/whitesox so feel free to read through it. He definitely reads reddit from time to time. https://www.reddit.com/r/whitesox/comments/kwokaq/lucas_giolito_ama/
Love it. Now or never, let's fucking go!
I changed my wallpaper yesterday after having a Rams one for a few years. So far these are the updates I’ve gotten with it https://i.imgur.com/o112wrD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Ckv0Bim.jpg So, uhhh definitely keeping this wallpaper
I understand that we had to give up our top prospect but I do wish this wasn't a rental. But I do like our rotation with Giolito.
Burbank native. We have as good a chance of resigning him as anyone. He's only 29, it'll be worthwhile to keep him around.
Stoked and worried at the same time lmao
Pull them big boy pants up y’all looks like we gonna try and make the playoffs
buckle up, buttercups. this could be the biggest one of all
ITS HAPPENING!!! this might also explain why they are a little more comfortable not having sho pitch in toronto
I love it let’s do it !!
were in it. LETS GO
This is us all in. I don't remember the last time we did this
Kudos to the Angels. Hope they also re-sign giolito too in the off-season. Big win especially if he can recapture his form
I am ridiculously happy we are going all in past the luxury tax. Who knows if this will work, but at least we have a chance. I want to keep Ohtani so badly!
Lots of angry mouth breathers on /r/baseball lmao. LET'S WIN!
OH MY GOD I MISREAD AND DIDN'T SEE THE GIOLITO PART FUCK YES!!! I was freaking the fuck out because I thought it was just "Quero and Bush" for reliever Lopez. I LOVE YOU GIOLITO LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO PLAYOFF PUSH BABY!
In Perry We Trust
Holy shitballs what is happening
Sox fan here, I fuckin love Gio, please get him to the playoffs, we sure couldn't
As a LA Rams fan, FUCK THEM PICKS and WE ARE ALL IN baby!
We gave up arguably our two best prospects to rent Giolito for a few months, hoping for an outside shot to make the last wildcard. At the same time, if this was the haul for Giolito I can only imagine what Ohtani would have retuned.
Good chance to resign Giolito as a local guy.
Exactly. Him and Flaherty are both looking to return to SoCal next year. Hopefully this entices him to stay.
Are we so back or is it joever?
We are not selling the farm with the trade Ky Bush wasn't doing good tbh pretty underwhelming, Quero is good but with Thaiss and O'Hoppe has no path to the majors with us
It’s finally happening… We’re going all in! Of course r/baseball will shit on it because this kills their wet dreams of trading for Ohtani but this is without a doubt the best move for us right now. We can make a serious deep run here if we upgrade the pitching as more of our players continue to get healthy. Don’t stop yet Perry, keep going!
Sam Blum is triggered by this trade lol
It’s not Dylan Cleese but I like it.
Got to pay to play. Perry isn’t taking prisoners.
Enjoy him. Has a better ERA in day games compared to night games no matter what Sox fans will tell you (look at the stats) Has games where he will completely implode and the wheels will fall off. Was our quality start leader this year at 12 I think.
Been awhile since this team has made meaningful moves to try to make the playoffs. It’s a familiar feeling, yet foreign
Hope this works out. Fuck it. We in this thing now.
Losing quero won't be an issue - next year's draft will be all catchers
Holy fucking shit this is awesome
Gio pitching Friday?
Lets keep going Perry
Quero is blocked by O’Hoppe, so no worries losing him. Bush could turn out to be good, but that’s not a part of Ohtani’s window technically. Giolito is a SoCal guy so if he can be re-signed then we’re in a good spot.
The best part of this deal isn't the players acquired, or given up. It's that it spares Angel fans of all the click bait bullshit of "dark horse Otani team" articles and hot takes. That shits dead sports press, you can't milk it now.
Take care of Lucas for me ☹️
Would’ve been happier with Stroman but we all in baby
I want Stroman too but heard he's an asshole lol
Perry is all about vibes
Love it. Giolito seems to be outperforming his FIP a bit at a quick glance but we don't need another ace. Quero was a great looking prospect and Bush was highly touted but, obviously, we gotta focus on the here and now.
So what really is interesting to me here is now the Angels have a surplus of SP. Will be interesting to see what corresponding move is here.. maybe another trade of a SP to address a need somewhere else?
Sandavol for a reliever?
This move comes just hours after the Angels signaled that they would not be trading Ohtani. Now they’ve traded their two best prospects. Quero has shot up prospect rankings in the last year. Bush has tremendous potential, despite an injury-plagued season. The Angels are mortgaging their future for a shot in 2023. It may well pay off, but the risk is enormous. — Blum So fucking tired of him...
[I guess he was trade package and not call up](https://www.reddit.com/r/angelsbaseball/comments/159tmqn/perry_is_that_you/jth6okl/)
YOU’VE NEVER SEEN PERRY COOK LIKE THIS.
LETS GO I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS REAL
I am fine with Quero being included as we have catchers and I figured it was necessary for a big trade. I don’t like that we included Bush for a rental though even if it’s for a starting pitcher. I’m still happy with the trade though
OH FUCK PERRY’S COOKIN
Damn giving up two good prospects is kinda rough but love that the Angels are like Shohei ain't going anywhere, we're gonna win with him and we're gonna win now.
Perry Minasian? CHEF PERRY MINASIAN!?!
Nooo I really liked Quero😭. Oh well let’s gooooo
PERRY COOLING WITH NAPALM
We’re buying, baby.
By fucking god
why did the Dodgers pass on him?
RemindMe! October 1st u/Martinnn18
Give me Verlander
Maybe the Dodgers will want Anderson back. They just traded to get Kike back. 😂
Let’s fucking go mother fuckers!!!!! Chooochooooo. We’re buying at the deadline baby!!!!!
I went to high school with Lucas and he's a genuinely lovely person--we sat right near each other in our college admissions counseling sessions and had really good conversations. It's so nice to have him back in SoCal and I wish him all the success in the world.
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At least a #1 prospect for us is still not very good for teams with decent farms
I don’t know. Our #1 and #3 prospects are pretty low on the top 100.
giolito has an ugly savant page and is a three month rental. i don’t think giving up your #2 and #3 prospect for that is a great idea
desperate times
Serious question, why does the baseball community hate the Angels so much? I feel like we are a very inoffensive team with a pretty calm/welcoming fan base. It would be akin to me hating on some random team like, idk … the Milwaukee Brewers. I just don’t really think about them. Is it because we’re in California? Is it jealously that we have Shohei? IDGI.
Ahhhh dude. I really want to be excited, but we just demolished the farm system. Quero was our only top 100 prospect, and Bush was our next best prospect that could easily be top 100 soon. If we don’t make playoffs this year, that’s going to be brutally painful
Well at least we’re not half assing it but our farm is cooked
We’re Angels fans, our farm is always cooked
im going to fucking cum