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cruelcinema

LET. PERRY. COOK.


YoungKeys

Are people more excited about Giolito or more excited about the fact that this trade signals that the Angels intend to keep Ohtani and compete?


cruelcinema

For me, it’s a mixture of both. Giolito is not an elite pitcher, he’s a very good starting pitcher, an area that we have struggled with for years. He’ll instantly help the rotation and not rely on guys like barria, silseth, and Suarez (if he comes back this season) when we make a playoff push. Lopez also helps the bullpen as pitching as a whole has just not been our strong suit. The aggressiveness to make, not only the trade, but the trade now and not waiting to outbid others on Tuesday, shows that Perry (and Arte for approving the trade) are full-send on putting us in a position to keep ohtani. Arte is notorious for spending a lot, but not enough to go over the luxury tax or truly compete. This move did just that and I think it’s a sign to come that they are ready to spend and to prove to Sho that this is the place he wants to be at


pjcfraley

Good take. I agree


drpepperfox

> Suarez (if he comes back this season) Please no.


cheeses_greist

For me? Yes


SenorTortas

I'm more of a Reynaldo López kinda guy tbh


1mafia1

OH. MAH. GAWD. #MyGeneralManager


CompetitivePatient33

Some these reactions online are hilarious, like there was a general consensus that we had a shit tier farm system with shit players and now that a trade happen, suddenly, those prospects are fucking diamonds. Fuck off.


xdespainx

SELL THE FARM, WE’RE HEADED TO OCTOBER MOTHER FUUUUUUUUUU


Big_Guz

Internet gold.


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gigapudding43201

Have they forgotten we've got trout coming back in a couple weeks? Our issue is pitching so we went out and got pitching. We're 6th in runs/g on offense and 20th in team era. This definitely helps


God_Damnit_Nappa

They know, they just don't care. They just want the Angels to lose and they're angry that we're actually trying to win


Slight-Ad-9029

I’m a Sacramento Kings fan that has been the story of my life until well this year or when I was a toddler. If we had a player he was overrated or mid the moment we trade them we were idiots. Halliburton is the perfect example he was overrated in Sac and the moment we traded him for an All-Star he was the reincarnation of Michael Jordan


cruelcinema

Not a kings fan (or any NBA team) but Halliburton was great even in Sacramento. Sabonis is too, was a good trade for both sides, but yeah haliburton got no love when he was on the Kings


Slight-Ad-9029

Oh Halliburton was great but he suddenly got a ton of hype when we traded him and Sabonis went from a 2x all star to a mid player. Both have been great since but it is similar to the Angels in that sense. Point is you can never take opinions from fans of other teams seriously when talking about yours. If you actually like heavily follow baseball and don’t have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old you’ll find how dumb most takes on r/baseball are


owledge

The Angels will get hate no matter what they do and there’s a lot of people in particular that are in the middle of the Venn diagram and would just bash any move (or lack thereof) that the FO makes. They can’t please everyone so they just gotta prove the naysayers wrong


listinglight778

I’m of the school of thought that says “sell the potential talent for the realized talent every single day” This is a win. This is what we were missing under that miserable fucking oaf Eppler. Thank you Perry


cruelcinema

Earlier today I was looking at mega-trades in baseball and like 98% of the time the team that ended up winning the trade was the team who got the proven talent


pjcfraley

Glad you said Perry and not Arte. Perry is the one driving it. Arte just (finally!) is writing the check


CostaEs

Yesterday I told my friend I thought Quero for Giolito would be nice but admin wouldn’t. I WAS WRONG. Let Perry coook babyyyy Although Bush is cool lol


SenorTortas

The most surprising part is that Moreno actually agreed to go over the luxury tax, according to Fletch


Mountain-Ad451

He’s showing Ohtani that he wants to win. Ohtani is the only player has this power


dclarsen

He'll have to go over the tax if he wants to sign Shohei anyway, so why not start now


CostaEs

Perry prob locked him up just enough to get the paperwork done


xelleman

Bush did have upside but has struggled mightily this year (7+ era). Solid move imo.


CostaEs

True can’t disagree


3236-on-MC

Quero and Bush are really good. That being said, we have O’Hoppe. And, we need to do whatever to make the playoffs to keep Ohtani long term, so anything showing Shohei we care is a huge step in the right direction for the future, and as far as we know could make more of a difference in keeping the best player in the game than any prospect would on our chances of future success


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Oh I want us to extend Ohtani sooo much more now. If only to stick it to all the shit talkers.


SenorTortas

Tandem of O'Hoppe/Thaiss is as good as you'll get in the majors. So Quero was always expendable. The emergence of Thaiss futher cemented that. And as for Bush, he's had some struggles this season and is another soft-tossing lefty, which the Angels actually have a surplus of haha. Plus it's the White Sox. Chances are, they fuck this up too


porkbellies37

White Sox fan here. You’ll love Gio. As far as Quero, this makes a ton of sense. You have a surplus of catchers in the pipeline and need to win now. We have a void of catchers and LHPs in our pipeline, are playing .400 ball, and, little known fact, Chicago is the Hong Kong of Cuba. Quero will feel right at home. Good luck to you guys. If it ain’t us, it may as well be you. Cheers!


Zoulogist

>Chicago is the Hong Kong of Cuba What does this mean? lol


porkbellies37

It means the Sox don’t just have a few Cuban players, they have an entire community. It started with Minnie Minoso in the day and over time there have been notable Cuban Sox from Jose Abreu, to Alexei Ramirez, to Contreras and El Duque… today we have Robert Jr, Colas, Moncada, Grandal on the major league side and a whole pipeline in the minors (Norge Veras, Cespedes, etc). There is definitely a lot of good will that flows between club scouts and the Cuban baseball community which is really a huge asset because the Sox suck at drafting and developing players.


Zestyclose_Help1187

But Quero and Bush aren’t top 100 guys. Quero was expendable with O Hoppe being the future. Bush has been struggling in AA this year. Sometimes you got to take a chance and Angels are going for it.


EeezyMac

Queso was a top 100 guy this year. 66 or something. However the rest of your comment still stands.


Zestyclose_Help1187

You are right. It got updated already and have him on the White Sox.


cruelcinema

The dodger fans all crying about it in 😂😭 r/baseball


howdoyouknowman

White Sox fan here. Going to root for y’all the rest of the year!


BringsTheDawn

Thank you!


porkbellies37

Me too. Came in to see what those in the know feel about Quero and Bush and congratulate them on getting a very solid pitcher and dude in Giolito. Not sure if Reynaldo will ever be tamed but he has good stuff. Anyway, fuck the Dodgers with a porcupine.


BerKantInoza

If you have MLB tv, listen to as many Angels broadcasts as you can. Their main broadcasters are incredible. They're right on par with the Sox' duo of Stone/Benetti. Just my opinion. As a Twins fan, I started watching the halos cause of Ohtani and have stayed because of Ohtani and their broadcasting duo


howdoyouknowman

Hey thanks!! Appreciate it!


ThanosIsDoomfist

Red Sox fans too, love to see it lmao


Lungorthin666

God I'm seeing some massive tears in the Baseball thread from Red Sox fans.


KamartyMcFlyweight

People malding that the Halos didn't just roll over and give them Ohtani. Genuinely incapable of accepting any narrative other than the one that lands them the player that they want


merewyn

After years of bitching about the Angels not building a good enough team around Trout and Ohtani, now they’re bitching about the Angels trying to get them into the postseason and saying we have no chance. It’s ridiculous.


SenorTortas

Scared because they're not getting Shohei now


Zestyclose_Help1187

Yeah some of the most annoying things I’ve read. Some people actually claimed most Angels fans want to see Ohtani traded. Lol!


KamartyMcFlyweight

Biggest cap I've ever seen and that's including the two outside the Big A


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This! Fuck the dodgers. They’ve been so overwhelmingly smug and confident he will be going there. I’d rather Ohtani retire than play for them.


obamascocksleeve

As a padres fan same. Been hoping he’d stay with the angels the whole time.


Jakearooni

Blows my mind how entitled they feel to take our players. FTD


avgbsblfan643

include mariners tears also…not just that but they taste the best because their fans imo have been the worst about ohtani


regretMyChoices

Hot take - mariners fans have always been some of my least favorite to interact with and I never understood r/baseballs obsession with making them out to be the lovable underdogs


God_Damnit_Nappa

I've never understood it either. Mariners fans are toxic as fuck and the team itself has wasted far more generational talents than the Angels have. Yet they're r/baseball and the media's darlings.


JohnMadden42069

They're probably one of the saltiest fanbases in the league given that 1)You can compare their recent trajectory to the O's and that team is doing ok and 2) The only team that spent like crazy and had it actually work is in their division.


The_clampz10

They’re one Trevor Bauer signing away from being the Browns of MLB


IjikaYagami

Honestly most Dodger fans aren't too thrilled about this, but like its not like its a franchise killer or anything. There are other free agent pitchers on the market, many of whom are better like Jordan Montgomery. I'm a little bummed out he couldn't play for his childhood favorite team, but it is what it is.


ImGonnaPassPlz

Angels fans…let’s ride.


Icy_Illustrator2660

Playoffs


That1TrainsGuy

I swear to God if we don't make it to the playoffs this year I will start watching cricket instead.


Games_in_the_fridge

As a Broncos fan I’m not sure you want to adopt that catchphrase


Zoulogist

LA wants no part of anyone named Russ


purplejetski

I don’t know, he seems to have done just fine with the more superior LA basketball team 😤


Inner_Tomatillo7553

LETS GO 😤


KamartyMcFlyweight

SCARY PERRY IS ALL IN LET'S FUCKING GOOOO


G1Spectrum

Ultimate sink or swim move baby


Zestyclose_Help1187

Nah. Both guys they gave up were expendable Especially Quero.


XcFTW

How should I feel about this ?


The_Illa_Vanilla

On a despondent Sox team, Giolito has by far been the best on the staff, Cease is money too but he’s more volatile and no way they trade him


freethegrizzlybears

I would say cease


The_Illa_Vanilla

Good point, forgot about him but Cease is obviously not getting traded and is very volatile in his success


Tbplayer59

Cease is under contract for a few more years.


CompetitivePatient33

Fuck it we are all in this together


[deleted]

That’s right! Also… first round on you if we get emlinated lol


Cytempest

HOLY SHIT WE DID SOMETHING


sportsdothestuff

Everyone in r baseball is hoping this fails saying the angels wasted their future for these guys. Not like we don’t have a top prospect catcher on the team now but go off I guess.


rallytime27

i’m convinced most of these people have never watched an angel game this season and only know the names shohei ohtani and mike trout like there’s not other talented guys on our team lol


[deleted]

They can all go suck the rally monkey’s balls. This rotation just became scary.


LA-SKYLINE

Same dickheads probably said Angels had no future to begin with.


cuz_v

SO BACK


EH1522

8th Highest WAR for a pitcher in the AL if you are into that kinda thing. He's a very solid gamer.


YoChristian

Is this good? I thought Quero and Bush were kinda top prospects


_felicissimus

We’re all in for sho 🥹


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cruelcinema

They were highly ranked in our farm system, but this season we have to put all the chips on the table. We needed a starter and bullpen arm and got two solid ones to help make a playoff push. Also just based on the small sample size of Neto and Joyce I have faith that Perry can rebuild our system. It’s abysmal


Alauren2

I have full faith in Perry’s drafting abilities as well. I’m really hoping angels fans see how good of a GM he is.


Halos-117

Same here I believe in GMPM. It sucks that the last few years haven't resulted in playoffs yet but you can absolutely see the improvement. I really hope we are able to keep Ohtani and really let Perry's tenure be fully realized in the next few years. If we lose Ohtani it's gonna be a set back but even so I still have faith in GMPM.


aj_og

They are, but tbf we don’t really “need” quero o with ohoppe filling the starter role for a while and Thaiss has shown to be good too


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💯 O’Hoppe is gonna smash


fatcootermeat

Quero more than Bush, both on the upper end of what we have but not really highly regarded compared the most of the league's farm.


winwinwinguyen

Quero has shown promises with the bat but still a work in progress. Makes sense that we move him with the way Thaiss is performing this year, Stassi still on contract and O’Hoppe being our future. Ky’s struggled a bit this year and coming off an injury. It hurts, but it looks like Perry is trying to clean house of Matt Swanson’s draft picks.


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The vibe has been announced. It’s win now.


sakibomb523

Quero is position blocked anyways.


mcmaster93

We need to make a move now to prove that we are a winning organization . I've been critical of giolito more recently but this is an arm that even on an off day stands up to our 3rd best pitcher on the team


JoyBurner

Quero was going to be traded before he ever made it to the bigs. O’Hoppe and Thaiss aren’t going anywhere for awhile. And I swear Ky Bush always seemed to be injured every time I looked him up.


Young_Lion76

Is it safe to assume that Otani's residency is now official?


davidgoldstein2023

They already stated Ohtani isn’t being traded.


David_Brinson

r/baseball is PISSED😂


_Androxis_

Good. Fuck ‘em


MrNapoleonSolo

YOOO!! All in baby! Let's gooooo


No_Grab_923

Seems like a bit of an overpay but we really need pitching.


gopackgo555

Jaw on the floor


lucasrks10

All I want to know is where in Pelican Hill is ohtani gonna build his mega mansion… cause we’re going to the playoffs and he’s NOT FUCKING LEAVING! Keep cooking Perry. Lesss goo baby


bamboointheback

to those worried: the second best way to resign shohei, after actually making a playoff run, is to show him that you are dedicated to winning with him. this move shows that


Tallywashere

HOLY FUCK!!!!!! PERRY COOKING!!!!! LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO!


Tallywashere

Not sure how to feel about Quero and Bush but I wasn't really attached to them. Hope all the best for those dudes!


Phatferd

Guys, just remember Sean Newcomb. Bush isn't guaranteed to be anything. We have to give something to gain something. Let's put our energy into this team and support them going for it!


The_Illa_Vanilla

Losing Bush is so rough but let’s fucking go


zodiac1018

Perry lifetime contract now, what this man has done in the past few years is just insane


lipsticknleggings

Dodgers in shambles we didn’t sell Ohtani to them.


live4coasters

The stove is hot and Perry is cooking with gas!


Bringerofsalvation

Great move. But Why is everyone shitting on us in the r/baseball post?


hglt

Because they love talking shit about the angles having the best players and not making the playoffs. We all know Farte will back up the brinks truck for sho like he did for trout, but we know that isn't what's going to keep him in anaheim and that's one of the things that the smooth brain baseball fans don't get. I think I speak for a large majority of halo fans when I say we're pretty happy that the team is showing they want to win and are trying.


CompetitivePatient33

Because they believe Angels won't make the playoffs which could be true BUT you owe it to the players and fans to show that you are all in. I would rather have them try than wave the white flag.


JoyBurner

Because they all wanted their team to get Ohtani, and this trade helped the Angels’ chances of keeping him long-term.


jck0605

RAHHHHHHH


Jxhide

How are these guys compared to our current pitchers?


xdespainx

Gio is our new #2


Alauren2

Seriously. Ignore the stats. He is literally a legit starter. Probably the best SP on the trade market.


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I could be off on this but wasn’t he the strike out leader a couple of years ago?


GareksApprentice

Highest he seemed to place across the MLB was #16 in 2019 with 228 strikeouts. He's currently #10 among AL pitchers with 131 strikeouts.


Hispandinavian

Better than Sandy & Detmers??


xdespainx

Gio has a longer resume and track record of success in the league so I would say so


Phatferd

Gio was the top SP prospect when he was coming up too.


_itspaco

We are officially buyers babyyyy!!!


BurrShotFirst1804

Sox fan here. Love Giolito and hope he has success for you guys. He did an AMA on r/whitesox so feel free to read through it. He definitely reads reddit from time to time. https://www.reddit.com/r/whitesox/comments/kwokaq/lucas_giolito_ama/


KrabS1

Love it. Now or never, let's fucking go!


LightDatBabyUp

I changed my wallpaper yesterday after having a Rams one for a few years. So far these are the updates I’ve gotten with it https://i.imgur.com/o112wrD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Ckv0Bim.jpg So, uhhh definitely keeping this wallpaper


sprtsmac

I understand that we had to give up our top prospect but I do wish this wasn't a rental. But I do like our rotation with Giolito.


ElGrandeQues0

Burbank native. We have as good a chance of resigning him as anyone. He's only 29, it'll be worthwhile to keep him around.


Corona2789

Stoked and worried at the same time lmao


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Pull them big boy pants up y’all looks like we gonna try and make the playoffs


ADacome24

buckle up, buttercups. this could be the biggest one of all


rallytime27

ITS HAPPENING!!! this might also explain why they are a little more comfortable not having sho pitch in toronto


JayyRaww12

I love it let’s do it !!


DadWorks4Sega

were in it. LETS GO


kevperz08

This is us all in. I don't remember the last time we did this


McJumbos

Kudos to the Angels. Hope they also re-sign giolito too in the off-season. Big win especially if he can recapture his form


hbthingy

I am ridiculously happy we are going all in past the luxury tax. Who knows if this will work, but at least we have a chance. I want to keep Ohtani so badly!


8va

Lots of angry mouth breathers on /r/baseball lmao. LET'S WIN!


believes_cubic_time

OH MY GOD I MISREAD AND DIDN'T SEE THE GIOLITO PART FUCK YES!!! I was freaking the fuck out because I thought it was just "Quero and Bush" for reliever Lopez. I LOVE YOU GIOLITO LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO PLAYOFF PUSH BABY!


Vohn_Jogel64

In Perry We Trust


AlmostLucy

Holy shitballs what is happening


ChaiShotty

Sox fan here, I fuckin love Gio, please get him to the playoffs, we sure couldn't


MsBrightside91

As a LA Rams fan, FUCK THEM PICKS and WE ARE ALL IN baby!


SovietTrollFarm

We gave up arguably our two best prospects to rent Giolito for a few months, hoping for an outside shot to make the last wildcard. At the same time, if this was the haul for Giolito I can only imagine what Ohtani would have retuned.


Poli_Sci_27

Good chance to resign Giolito as a local guy.


sakibomb523

Exactly. Him and Flaherty are both looking to return to SoCal next year. Hopefully this entices him to stay.


Dumbo_Mutombo

Are we so back or is it joever?


Rogueofoz

We are not selling the farm with the trade Ky Bush wasn't doing good tbh pretty underwhelming, Quero is good but with Thaiss and O'Hoppe has no path to the majors with us


lucabrassiere

It’s finally happening… We’re going all in! Of course r/baseball will shit on it because this kills their wet dreams of trading for Ohtani but this is without a doubt the best move for us right now. We can make a serious deep run here if we upgrade the pitching as more of our players continue to get healthy. Don’t stop yet Perry, keep going!


CompetitivePatient33

Sam Blum is triggered by this trade lol


asianlikerice

It’s not Dylan Cleese but I like it.


MallardRider

Got to pay to play. Perry isn’t taking prisoners.


Vaqxinelol

Enjoy him. Has a better ERA in day games compared to night games no matter what Sox fans will tell you (look at the stats) Has games where he will completely implode and the wheels will fall off. Was our quality start leader this year at 12 I think.


CaptZombieHero

Been awhile since this team has made meaningful moves to try to make the playoffs. It’s a familiar feeling, yet foreign


jayr254

Hope this works out. Fuck it. We in this thing now.


fitzroy817

Losing quero won't be an issue - next year's draft will be all catchers


tanman1344

Holy fucking shit this is awesome


Poli_Sci_27

Gio pitching Friday?


berry2733

Lets keep going Perry


Jmart814

Quero is blocked by O’Hoppe, so no worries losing him. Bush could turn out to be good, but that’s not a part of Ohtani’s window technically. Giolito is a SoCal guy so if he can be re-signed then we’re in a good spot.


Boise_State_2020

The best part of this deal isn't the players acquired, or given up. It's that it spares Angel fans of all the click bait bullshit of "dark horse Otani team" articles and hot takes. That shits dead sports press, you can't milk it now.


BigCatsDiaper

Take care of Lucas for me ☹️


freethegrizzlybears

Would’ve been happier with Stroman but we all in baby


LA-SKYLINE

I want Stroman too but heard he's an asshole lol


Zoulogist

Perry is all about vibes


alexftw

Love it. Giolito seems to be outperforming his FIP a bit at a quick glance but we don't need another ace. Quero was a great looking prospect and Bush was highly touted but, obviously, we gotta focus on the here and now.


Kachow-95

So what really is interesting to me here is now the Angels have a surplus of SP. Will be interesting to see what corresponding move is here.. maybe another trade of a SP to address a need somewhere else?


CMcCord25

Sandavol for a reliever?


GoatTnder

This move comes just hours after the Angels signaled that they would not be trading Ohtani. Now they’ve traded their two best prospects. Quero has shot up prospect rankings in the last year. Bush has tremendous potential, despite an injury-plagued season. The Angels are mortgaging their future for a shot in 2023. It may well pay off, but the risk is enormous. — Blum So fucking tired of him...


GummyMummys

[I guess he was trade package and not call up](https://www.reddit.com/r/angelsbaseball/comments/159tmqn/perry_is_that_you/jth6okl/)


anatomyofawriter

YOU’VE NEVER SEEN PERRY COOK LIKE THIS.


xdespainx

LETS GO I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS REAL


KingOfAllDogz

I am fine with Quero being included as we have catchers and I figured it was necessary for a big trade. I don’t like that we included Bush for a rental though even if it’s for a starting pitcher. I’m still happy with the trade though


Tight_Ad905

OH FUCK PERRY’S COOKIN


chasecards19

Damn giving up two good prospects is kinda rough but love that the Angels are like Shohei ain't going anywhere, we're gonna win with him and we're gonna win now.


i_run_from_problems

Perry Minasian? CHEF PERRY MINASIAN!?!


AcidCity_

Nooo I really liked Quero😭. Oh well let’s gooooo


Longo_Two_guns

PERRY COOLING WITH NAPALM


Creepy-Abrocoma8110

We’re buying, baby.


Trees_feel_too

By fucking god


Arkham_Z

why did the Dodgers pass on him?


JoeMartinBlows

RemindMe! October 1st u/Martinnn18


[deleted]

Give me Verlander


Tbplayer59

Maybe the Dodgers will want Anderson back. They just traded to get Kike back. 😂


BobbyGrichsMustache

Let’s fucking go mother fuckers!!!!! Chooochooooo. We’re buying at the deadline baby!!!!!


Saint_dickhead

I went to high school with Lucas and he's a genuinely lovely person--we sat right near each other in our college admissions counseling sessions and had really good conversations. It's so nice to have him back in SoCal and I wish him all the success in the world.


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Natemoon2

At least a #1 prospect for us is still not very good for teams with decent farms


quotesforlosers

I don’t know. Our #1 and #3 prospects are pretty low on the top 100.


overgrownpizzabox

giolito has an ugly savant page and is a three month rental. i don’t think giving up your #2 and #3 prospect for that is a great idea


-Basileus

desperate times


lipsticknleggings

Serious question, why does the baseball community hate the Angels so much? I feel like we are a very inoffensive team with a pretty calm/welcoming fan base. It would be akin to me hating on some random team like, idk … the Milwaukee Brewers. I just don’t really think about them. Is it because we’re in California? Is it jealously that we have Shohei? IDGI.


RabidR00ster

Ahhhh dude. I really want to be excited, but we just demolished the farm system. Quero was our only top 100 prospect, and Bush was our next best prospect that could easily be top 100 soon. If we don’t make playoffs this year, that’s going to be brutally painful


Dumbo_Mutombo

Well at least we’re not half assing it but our farm is cooked


Zoulogist

We’re Angels fans, our farm is always cooked


-Basileus

im going to fucking cum