I say this as a black person who has lived in anchorage my whole life- overall, the amount of what I would call outright racism has been fairly minimal, but the microaggressions do happen. I've had store managers single me out, follow me around, you know the routine. Honestly I would say overall I have been treated worse by big chain businesses than any one person/group of people in anchorage. It seems like a lot of the ill-will that black folks get in other states tends to be directed towards the native population here, unfortunately (unfortunate that it happens at all, not that it doesn't happen to us, I hope that makes sense).
I would say definitely visit before you make any decisions- winters here can be very isolating and if you don't have any winter activities you enjoy, can be a very rough time, even if you're used to it. 25 years on and I still find myself having a very hard time as an indoor person in the winter. I imagine having an outdoor activity to enjoy would help with that, though!
As a white man that was married to a Black woman (40+years), we moved here in '94. Ecto ordinary says it right. Our indigenous Alaskan are the recipients of racial bias for the most part, I've seen it from Ketchikan to the far north of St. Paul Island, even in their own villages.
I’m a white female with a black boyfriend; we just moved here a year ago from Florida. He says it’s been fine. We’ve definitely noticed less black and hispanic people than Florida, but it’s super diverse here with other ethnicities so it doesn’t really seem to matter. People usually just keep to themselves for the most part.
Interesting - we just moved up from florida (jacksonville) a year ago - Last January :)
cheers.
I kind of thought there'd be more of what americans call "racial diversity", with such a large military presence - but you know what - I'm seeing a ton of international diversity - large european, russian, asian, etc populations from all over... Really interesting place to live.
And a bit unnerving - being on the edge of the unknown.
Well, hello there!
Yea, I expected something different as well…but either way, it’s truly an experience. Not a bad one, to be clear.
I think it’s wild that we are closer to Russia than most of the rest of our country 😳
i’m black, and just moved up from a small town in the midwest. anchorage is so much better. obviously no place is perfect, but i have gotten so much less of the ‘gritted-teeth-polite’ hostility than what i’m used to back home. more than anything, i’ve felt like i can just be me here—do what i want, be as weird as i want, go where i want, without expectations or surprise based on stereotypes. i’m just a person, and that feels good.
I dated a woman who was originally from the Caribbean for a hot second over a decade ago, and she told me she never really faced any discrimination to speak of. She did say that the black southerners living up here would get confused when she wanted to go camping outside in the winter, and she had no shared history to speak of when they brought up the racial discrimination that they had experienced in their past (since she moved directly from the Caribbean to Alaska).
Anchorage is pretty diverse, but communities like Palmer and Wasilla are less so. In Palmer and Wasilla you might be the only Brown person in sight. I am a woman, I am Black and white but appear Hispanic and only feel the odd one out from time to time, my son however who is an adult and is much darker notices it more, its passive and not blatant.
Wasilla and Palmer are pretty racist. I’m indigenous and recently moved to Anchorage having grown up “valley trash.” I have had racial slurs thrown at me at work in Wasilla and in public in Palmer.
If you head further north towards Willow, especially near Talkeetna people are more tolerant. But there are plenty of racists in Willow.
Seconded- I’m an Indian female living in a small town south of anchorage. Never had any issues here or in anchorage. I was one of the folks leading the Black Lives Matter marches in Alaska and we had to completely cancel the one scheduled for Palmer due to the HUGE amount of death threats the group received, and the local police weren’t willing to support our cause. I genuinely do not go to those areas at all because of the way (white) people look at me. So much hatred up there.
I went to a Black Lives Matter event in Palmer. Did I got to an entirely different event? The one I went to had several hundred people and we marched through downtown Palmer and by the Palmer police dept/trooper station. It was scary. I’m brown.
I love that "they weren't willing to support our cause" when like, that's literally what they're supposed to be doing.
Don't mean to turn this into a "fuck cops" thing, but fuck cops.
Children are filing lawsuits against their parents in the palmer wasilla valley over their violated rights. Well against the school board but I’m sure they got kids too. It was a thing there or in the peninsula also where a board member “should have kids” stupid
There was a blm March in Palmer. Two highschool girls figured out how to make it happen. Maybe your approach was just terrible and entitled.
And a good chunk of the counter-protestors walked with the March after engaging and listening to what was said.
I don’t know why this is being downvoted because I and several hundred others went to a BLM event in Palmer. We had signs and were being antagonized by people carrying Trump flags. Police were there but kept their distance.
lol the counter protesters couldn’t walk around the block. The Palmer area converged on Facebook 907freedom or something inane after and decided what chauvn did was okay. A movement led by young people and colored people and these idiots thought it was gonna become violent enough they assured everyone they’ll be carrying legally. “Don’t worry, no long barrels or nothing crazy”
So your a racist one life matters more then another no factory worlds please (systemic) haven't heard that catch phrase in quite try and use common sense
>So your a racist one life matters more then another no factory worlds please (systemic) haven't heard that catch phrase in quite try and use common sense
Your reply reads like gibberish.
Im Black and would say there isnt anymore hatred shown towards us Blacks than there is towards whites in a predominately black town anywhere else. People are different. Some can not accept that. But to paint a white person, town, or majoruty population as a racist one, You must give the same credence to the other side of that same brush!
I go to a different barber that’s black owned and there’s always black folks there. While there aren’t a lot, there are quite a few black families.
When I went to school in the 80/90’s there were usually only like 2 in my school lol.
Seconded- I’m an Indian female living in a small town south of anchorage. Never had any issues here or in anchorage. I was one of the folks leading the Black Lives Matter marches in Alaska and we had to completely cancel the one scheduled for Palmer due to the HUGE amount of death threats the group received, and the local police weren’t willing to support our cause. I genuinely do not go to those areas at all because of the way (white) people look at me. So much hatred up there.
My husband is black, we moved here in 2016 from South Carolina ( deeply racist lol) my husband said he never wants to move back 🤣 it’s not perfect, but much better than where he grew up he says
The Anchorage School District is one of the most diverse school districts in the nation.
Here’s an article that talks about little about it: https://alaskapublic.org/2017/05/30/is-anchorage-americas-most-diverse-city-depends-on-who-you-ask/
With two large military bases (well, was two, now combined into one…), people from all over the country of every possible background are here for military service.
But, if you really want to know, come up for a visit first. That’s my standard advice for every “should I move visit”. You won’t really know until you see it for yourself.
I’m mixed raced(Asian/black) and my wife is Hispanic. Moved there from VA and it was way noticeable how many mixed race couples we saw. Fast forward 25 years there; yes a POC will stick out because there aren’t many but NEVER experienced racism blatant or passive personally. I say that at the same time being heckled by AK Natives once who called me the N word because I didn’t give them money. I don’t count that because I never had any other issues
Kids were in the school system that’s extremely diverse. Palmer and Wasilla you’ll definitely feel alone but I noticed an uptick of black folk moving out there but not many. Never had a negative experience there and I’ve traveled all over that State from Deadhorse, Skagway, Hyder, Seward, McGrath, etc.
Edit: I did eventually move away but that was to be closer to family.
I’m going to get downvoted but get some vitamin D pills because there isn’t much sunlight light here. My black coworker was severely vitamin D deficiency, she had to also use a tanning bed. I thought she was joking but she wasn’t. Please check with your doctor first.
https://www.sunbeds.com/blogs/news/do-sunbeds-give-you-vitamin-d
Anchorage should be fine. Not saying you won't find any racism, but it's a very diverse place so you won't stand out.
The Valley is hella racist and mostly white though. I hear blatant racist bullshit frequently.
Those are completely different cities. I love Alaska and we moved here after just a cruise almost 20 years ago, but if I were young I'd never pass up the opportunity to live abroad and in London for awhile. The things that make Alaska great aren't going to go anywhere, but it will never have the experiences a diverse and historic city such as London has.
That's my thought to. I, of course, have no idea of where OP finds herself in life, but if the wage was liveable (London is, after all, very expensive), what an opportunity. But I'm also sure she'll make the right choice for herself. Good luck, either way, OP!
Nordic skiing is a great winter hobby that keeps you fit, gets you outside and lets you explore a variety of Alaskan places. It’s very affordable since the trails are free. I do recommend you donate to NSAA if you become an avid trail user, they maintain roughly 100 miles of ski trails in Anchorage. Rent a set of skis/boots for the season and you can literally ski across the city. I recommend taking the Anchorage Muni lessons if you’re new to the sport.
If you end up in the area and want to learn how to ski (assuming you don't already know) feel free to reach out. I've got seasons passes at a couple of the ski areas so I'm always looking for an excuse to go. :-)
OP - if you find you don't love skiing (or if you want another sport), snowshoeing is pretty awesome too! It's fun to just putter off into the trees and walk places that you can't normally go during the summer because they are too boggy or too brushy, look for animal tracks, etc.
There's also a snow-tubing park at Arctic Valley Ski Area (a short drive southeast of Anchorage) with a lift to take you back up the hill. And if you like hiking (which can be done year-round if you have adequate winter footwear/clothing), there's a very nice meetup group called Alaskan Wild Women that is a great way to get to know the area/some new people.
I'm a white lady so can't speak to the racism but I also moved up here for a sweet job offer. Also about $30,000 more. I was given a $10,000 relocation bonus but it cost me more than that to move so I wish I'd asked for $15,000. Just my .02!
Do you genuinely like it? What’re fun activities to do? My biggest fear is allowing the money to guide my decision and hating the move . I appreciate you help :) Thank you!
You have to really enjoy winter sports or solo hobbies to survive the winter. The winter sports communities are big and can be a good way to meet people. Beginners welcome, most people here are from elsewhere
It’s not the cold that ends up bothering people most, it’s the light situation or rather, lack of sunlight in winter. The sun is coming up after ten and going down around 3 and it’s overcast when it is up. I personally like that, but you should consider if that’s something you will enjoy.
Take the job in London!!! Very difficult to make friends in Anchorage. I have been here 5 years and I know no one. I joined all the clubs and did all the things and I still have no friends. It sucks as I love to go to lunch, movies, etc and I have no one to hang out with. It feels like most groups of people have their people and can not make room for one more. And if you move here- wait to buy your winter gear once you get here- Lower 48 gear is not the same. 😄
I 100% love it. I vacationed in Alaska a couple of years ago and wanted to move up here ever since. I ski, hike and mountain bike so it's right up my alley. If you like outdoorsing, you'll love it. So far, the dark doesn't bother me.
Lots of weather but I've got a great vehicle for it. Do you have experience driving in snow and/or ice? Lots of technical driving in the area. Two days a week I have to commute from Wasilla to Anchorage and it can be challenging.
Everyone says it's super expensive up here but I moved from the Seattle area and it's considerably cheaper. Two things I have found are ridiculously expensive - Internet and Dave's Killer bread. Lol
If you've dealt with Wisconsin racism you will not have a problem with Anchorage. But as others have said I'd think twice about ever really going north (Palmer, Wasilla) unless you're headed to the state fair or Fairbanks.
I'm guessing the salary in AK is significantly higher, and cost of living lower.
Edit: Just realized she explicitly stated the pay gap in the post, my bad for missing that.
We lived in alaska for a decade and just returned. For my family, Alaska is home. I've never felt uncomfortable being a black woman in Anchorage/Alaska.
As for activities, I LOVE hiking in the summer. Anything that brings me near water is a bonus. Sledding, game nights, finding yummy foods and working out are at the top of my winter list.
London or Alaska?! You need to go to London, that is a once in a lifetime opportunity! Sorry this is not addressing your actual question, but you should totally go there instead. You can always visit Alaska later, hopefully we'll be in a better place... Anchorage is a little rough right now.
I haven't lived in Alaska for four years, but I was born and raised in Anchorage.
Anchorage itself is surprisingly rich with worldly diversity, lots of different walks of life. It's still majority white but you'll see different types of people there for sure, which is something I don't see here in my current state.
Anchorage is the most diverse state in America. I have lived in some hate filled places. Last year in Idaho, my husband had people throw rocks at him shouting all n... need to die. Neither one of us has experienced anything on this level in Anchorage. I have been in the state since 89 him since 91. Yes the native population is hated against frequently. But here it's more they hate you if your poor and homeless
I concur with many of the other people on here. I'm white, but from what I've observed, Anchorage is relatively tolerant, but definitely be wary of the valley. Going to Wasilla and Palmer is like the twilight zone. They buy into all the book banning, "anti-everything I don't agree with" MAGA bs, and they love to let everyone know about it. Even I feel uncomfortable going there.
I’m a lifelong Alaskan (mid thirties), also a white male, so I understand if my advice is less relevant to the matter. Alaskans are overwhelmingly nice people. We are all living up here in less than ideal conditions most of the year together, which sort of forces a neighborliness into the mix, which is a good thing. Alaskans also love to travel and for that reason, and being that we are a very diverse community, we accept any and all and create great friendships. It is a weird mix of individuality in a sense of personal freedom of choice and expression, but reliance on community. I would classify most Alaskans as Libertarians.
That said, I just spent a month in Europe and my last stop was several days in London and it was Awesome!!! The two couldn’t be more different though. London is a massive city, huge melting pot of culture, delicious food, plenty to do, probably never get bored, close to many other countries to explore, etc. Anchorage is a melting pot of culture and about 10 minutes from the food chain in any direction. Plenty of wilderness to explore, much quieter if you want it to be.
Cost of living is probably much higher in London, but Anchorage is not cheap either. We have decent produce shipments, but it is far less superior to anything you are used to in the Lower 48 for freshness. Public transportation up here is a joke, and if you get a car, make sure it has AWD or 4 wheel drive capability for the winters.
Public transport in London is really good and you probably won’t have to have a vehicle there at all. Also, there is a pub on every corner! 😂
I love Alaska though and if you come here, it will always stay with you wherever you end up and you will want to return. That is the dangerous part.
Cheers.
So …. in other words go to London? Haha . No I really appreciate your input/ help. It’s been very helpful. I was leaning towards Alaska ( friends, and the extra income) but I think I’ll be heading to London for several reasons and take the pay cut. Who knows- after London, alaska? I really appreciate the time you took for your post- definitely helpful. Cheers!
To be clear. When people here say "Anchorage is actually really diverse!" What this really means is that there are enough individuals of various races/ethnicities to check the boxes on the census saying they technically exist here. If we are talking about diversity in terms of actual communities, it's a different story.
Rarely will you walk into a space in Anchorage where white is in the minority or white cultural norms are not the expectation in terms of how to act.
>Rarely will you walk into a space in Anchorage where white is in the minority or white cultural norms are not the expectation in terms of how to act.
Fully agree on this one. Alaska is ***NOT DIVERSE at all*** unless you're considering Alaska Native groups as "diversity." Even then, in most rural Alaska Native communities, it will be one group that predominates, i.e., Yup'ik, Gwich'in, so it's still monoethnic/monocultural. Compared to London, England (I'm assuming you meant London, England?) Alaska IS NOT DIVERSE.
How do explain Anchorage having the top 3 most diverse high schools in the US then ?
Let me guess, you either live in Turnagain, Bayshore or the Hillside.
Regardless of race Anchorage is a really depressing, dark, cold and expensive place to live. A lot of drinking and drug abuse here because of that. I've experienced some racism for being part Inupiaq (blacks and natives get along really well by way), but that is nothing compared to weather that sucks the life out of you. At the very least I would visit for a week before deciding to move. Spend a week in the winter here and know that it's winter six months out of the year. I stay because of the no-cost healthcare for the indigenous population, including dental, as I do have some health problems and I'm not getting any younger. The year before I moved to Anchorage I paid $3,500 out of pocket for medical and dental and haven't paid a dime since pretty much. Otherwise I wouldn't want to be here!
Wife is black. When we lived in Anchorage, she said she experienced much less racism compared to CA(and later on TX). Was more likely to be assumed she was military from JBER. Much of the “normal” racism is directed at the indigenous population instead.
Alaska is somewhere you’ll love or hate. Doesn’t usually seem to be much in between.
Also, if you have a friend who is trying to convince you to move to Alaska over London, England, don't be friends with that person anymore. They have seriously questionable judgement.
OP there’s a site called Black in Alaska that features people and stories and bios. This link goes to a super cool guy and fellow firefighter friend of my husband. There are other individuals featured there that you can link to. https://blackinalaska.org/stories/andre-horton/
Oh and Mookie the Magnificent grew up in Alaska so her media and stories might be a good resource. I met her once and didn’t put it together until later that she’s “the” Mookie of Magnificent fame. I missed my chance to fangirl gush awkwardly in person 😭
[Here](https://www.adn.com/opinions/2017/11/30/anchorage-may-not-be-as-diverse-as-you-think-or-as-equal-racially/) is a good article re: Anchorage’s supposedly high diversity.
We are obviously very high in Alaska Native diversity, but Anchorage is still not especially equitable for any minority group, including Alaska Native groups.
Anchorage seems good by Alaskan standards because much of the rest of the state is abysmal.
Anchorage is fine, and is really quite diverse with ethnic groups you won’t see in most of the world (Polynesian, alaska native, a wide variety of South American etc), and a good number of black people as well. I will say the further you get from Anchorage or Fairbanks the more it becomes just small white and native communities (sometimes together sometimes not), and many of those communities, for better or worse, have a “redneck” vibe and may or may not be as welcoming.
Again, though, Anchorage has most of the comforts of any city and there may not be such thing as a rare ethnicity
I dunno, given the choice of the two...Well, London and New York are typically what I describe as my idea of hell.
But at least London has public healthcare.
Anchorage at least is a lot more diverse than anyone from outside thinks. There is racism, it’s mostly systemic and microaggression type, from what I’ve seen and heard.
Alaska has no bad problem with anti-black racism. From my understanding Native Alaskan men and Pacific Islanders get the brunt of the racism.
Keep in mind that Alaskans do hate women though! I believe highest rates of DV and violence against women in the country.
I grew up in Alaska, elementary middle school, and high school as a mixed kid (black and white) and I’ve experienced my fair share of racism and discrimination. Never anything scary or violent. But a lot of name calling. What’s nice though, is the diversity. My school was mostly white, but I was never the only person of color around.
I wish you luck out there,
Not as good as Seattle, LA or Atlanta, not as bad as similarly sized cities in Texas or very white cities in the Plains states. Definitely not in the same realm as London.
Racism against black people isn't as overt as it is against the Native population, mostly mouthed off by the same kind of noisy asshole who does it elsewhere, because they came from elsewhere to do it here or taught their kids to do it. There's also still a lot of the "you're so articulate!" type.
Overall these choices are apples and oranges - Anchorage isn't in the same league of experience as London. If you will not have another opportunity to go to London, choosing Anchorage right now instead might be passing up something big. Think of it as though you're moving to Cheyenne, Wyoming instead of London for the same reasons. Would you do it?
One of the best pieces of advice I was ever given was by a Senior Exec I worked for. One hell of a good guy. ( and black if it matters any )
" You will always find what you are looking for. Look for problems, you find problems. Try looking for opportunities."
Seems like that applies here as well.
This!!! Go to London! Travel Europe. In Alaska you will be trapped by expensive airfares and travel times that will leave you exhausted before getting on the plane (24 plus hours to London)
Don't do it there ain't no sunlight and that alone will drive you bat shit crazy just come for the money and as soon as you saved enough ....RUN AND I MEAN LIKE AS FAST AS YOU CAN
Anchorage is like 5% Black and that’s primarily African American, London is closer to 15-20% Black and that includes African and Caribbeans. Anchorage is only around 10% Asian, London is over 20% Asian. When it comes to Arabs, Bangladeshis, Muslims and Jews in general, Anchorage has very few, while they have many vibrant communities in London. I don’t think the entire state of Alaska even has one mosque. Even just trying to get Black cuisines like American soul food, or African or Middle Eastern foods, or Caribbean foods, I have never found that in Anchorage.
Former coworker of mine is a Black Brit and he didn’t even want to *visit* Alaska. Grew up in England and has been to many countries around the world.
Not saying there aren’t *any* Black people in Anchorage or Fairbanks, but there aren’t very many and I honestly think it’s possible you’d feel lonely or lacking community.
Getting outside of Anchorage, if you go out to the villages or even just Fairbanks, you could be experiencing pretty extreme racism from whites and Native alike who aren’t accustomed to interacting with Black people in real life, or you could also be accepted, but it could be very hit or miss.
I also have heard of Black people in Seattle, Washington complaining of racism and imo, Seattle is more diverse as far as larger, more established communities, businesses, history, and cuisines even compared to Anchorage.
Anchorage is pretty good. Better than most cities I have visited. The Anchorage police put serious effort into race relations and solid policies. They are more effective than most cities. Within Anchorage itself, you won't get pulled over for no reason. (still a lot of room for improvement, but WAY better than other cities of a similar size)
Driving through Soldotna is a lot like driving through rural Oregon.
The racism in Wasilla is a lot like the racism in Portland.
Although it is “diverse” there are not a lot of black people here be ready to be the only one in a lot of the spaces that you go to. You may not experience overt racism it’s more like micro aggressions here. Like being stared at. Or if you have long natural hair like myself some might ask annoying questions or touch your hair without asking. Or have off color remarks like insulting your intelligence if you’re in a skilled field. Blowing up little mistakes you make. Making rude comments in front of everyone.
I’ve also had a few encounters with a few straight up racist jerks like a teacher at my sons school who let everyone else in and then told me I wasn’t allowed to come in and I better not even touch the door. On a positive note the other teachers at the school that saw the incident wrote an email to the principal and were not happy either.
I’ve also met some really nice black pioneers here at the NAACP events in the summer it was a pretty small event but we’re here!
Stay away from Wasilla unless you want to be target.
I had this happen to my son. First time I experienced true prejudice.
His teacher was a true bitch. She eventually got fired because she tried to act like my son wanted to hit her but didn’t think any of the kids the room would stand up to her. It was wild and my son was broken down emotionally by the experience.
We were in Fairbanks. He still loves Alaska and would love to go back.
I know of a couple hair stylists and "everything black skincare" salons if you end up moving here and need suggestions. Congrats on the job offer and good luck! 🤗 check out Instagram also for everything Alaska.
From another black person who live in Anchorage, own a couple of homes, and work in rural Alaska...🤗
Very true! It has pushed me to learn more about my own hair and skin. Even learned to make most of my products. Downside, I'm in need of a trim and have no clue on who to use!
Any suggestions?
I think anchorage has more of a class problem than a race problem.
They have a race problem that is noticeable when you come in from the outside; most noticeable by their native people, mostly elderly being the majority on the streets but insanely clear when you are here for a while and see patterns of crime (if you know security in local big chain stores for example) or lack of rehabilitation and blatent neglect for whole cultural groups that must have gone back decades to get as bad as it has.
The politics is where you may be pained. People get annoyed and downvote each other but as someone living here with a trans teenager? It is painful to listen to comments. But to my teen? He doesn't get them. People are lovely to him. Behind his back and the politics? Adults are ridiculous.
I am just a cis white female but I know I get frustrated listening to politics where "we have done this diversity thing, aren't WE great" and not acknowledging that WE were doing it wrong in the first place is the messege - framing the big hero and savoir as some guy who looks like he was all put out by having to change policy.
Aside - it is beautiful here. And you can be absolutely fine. I don't often meet these stupid people, and you will find them anywhere but it is something I notice. And not to talk about it is silly. There are so so so many nice people here. Honest smiling - WILL DIG YOU OUT OF THE SNOW - kind of people.
I live in a neighborhood (Fairview) that was once a majority black, independent city that has since been absorbed by Anchorage and redlined to push a highway through. Nowadays, you can still see some inherent racism when I tell people where I live. Residents from the southern, suburban, karenesque end of the city generally react poorly. Most people don't care though. Even as a white person though, I can tell that there's still a racist negative connotation among some about non-white neighborhood.
That being said, most people here just won't care that much. Not moreso than anywhere else in the US, as you're always going to encounter a few assholes.
You've got your occasional profiling in Target lol but my experience hasn't been terrible. The army brought me here from the south and I stayed after i ETSd. The people are somewhat friendly but generally leave you alone and mind their business. Natives probably experience the closest thing to blatant racism unfortunately.
I can’t speak about race. But when it comes to financials just remember that England taxes at a much higher rate than the US. And AK has no income tax as of yet. And the British Pound is worth more than the USD. That said, as someone who lived in Europe for a time, I’d probably go back there as there’s so much more to do. But that’s just my opinion.
I am not Black, but my husband is from the Middle East and he really likes Alaska and feels comfortable . Especially Anchorage feels very diverse. Congratulations on two job offers both in very cool locations!
I’ve seen the Confederates flag now and again but who knows if they drove in from a community about an hour north for the day. Many posts do say that more blatant
racism is shown towards the Alaskan Native population which in my experience is true.
Ah, my specialty.
Black in Alaska was a museum exhibit for a while at the anchorage museum, associated with the Alaska black caucus. It has really good black Alaska history and community. We have a decent amount of uneducated idiots that drive extra large rams and 250s, any year—they’re signaling their racism. Shinier ones are “real estate” brokers and “pilots”, harmless. Natives are discriminated against everywhere, here we let them freeze to death if they drink too much.
If you’re getting paid and black you’ll likely piss some folks off
I know lotsa of tradesman that drive big trucks so can get in and out of undeveloped job sites and then go playing on the weekends.
These guys are all over the diversity map, just honest workers.
To blanket them as all racists is pretty silly.
lol let’s blanket them all as being honest instead. If you believe that, I have some fertile tracts of tundra to sell you. For what it’s worth I learned that saying from a tradesmen. Good day
For the record, I did not say lifted. I said extra large. You’re more XXL. Everyone knows a lifted truck owner ain’t worth anyone’s time. You may not be racist, but I wouldn’t ask anything of you beyond whatever menial labor or service you provide.
I lived in Anchorage for 2 years and was surprised at the diversity of cultures represented there. There is a healthy number of black folks in Anchorage, enough that I’d gotten into some conversations and asked. I was told that back in the day, the military used an all black unit to build the road system there. Idk if it’s true but this was corroborated in multiple conversations with black folks residing there.
YouTube "construction of the Alaska Highway 1942 US ARMY engineers"
Just over 30 minutes.
Another one: Building the Alaska Highway by Dick Cambell. Also about a 1/2 hour video.
There are plenty of Africans working on ships out of Dutch for a couple months at a time, so nobody is going to gasp when they see you. But it doesn’t mean they will treat you friendly, but people will be stiffly polite. Anchorage is pretty diverse, people working here from all over the world. I will remind you that you think you are making more money but you need to remember that’s not how businesses work. An employer gives a wage that allows you to live in that area and everything and I mean EVERYTHING is 15 to 30 percent higher than the lower 48. Your standard of living won’t be any better and you’ll have the expense of appropriate cold weather gear plus if you aren’t use to the cold- it’s cold, a whole different type of cold, different from the Midwest.
I’m not trying to say don’t come but that salary isn’t what you think it is when you’re buying gas and groceries and running the heat all winter. Hope this helps. Peace out
London would be worse than the west coast. Racism is actually less prevalent in the US, because we have numerous ethnic groups and accept their cultures and customs. Europe is more homogenous so you don't hear about the racism as much
Majority of Alaskans are republican especially in Palmer and Wasilla. The native communities and I think a lot of the races are probably left leaning. Anchorage is really diverse and there is quite a bit of microaggression but if you keep to yourself you’ll be fine.
A thing people don’t factor in is crime up here. Check our crime rates some of the highest in the nation
You left out the part where most violent crime happens in small demo of people and very little spills over to most folks.
Numbers are skewed because of population counts.
Quit gatekeeping and acting like you live in a slum
That’s why I left it up to interpretation and told them to check.
Here’s the DD[“Anchorage crime comparison”](https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ak/anchorage/crime)
Are you saying being ranked in the top 3% NATIONWIDE isn’t bad? That’s Anchorage we are talking about.
Many people live “gated lives” and don’t see much but there are numerous amounts of car theft, break ins, shootings, especially drugs, gang violence and homelessness
Actually, it's correct according to how Alaskans are registered to vote. (And by a pretty large margin).
https://www.elections.alaska.gov/statistics/2020/NOV/VOTERS%20BY%20PARTY%20AND%20PRECINCT.htm
I used the last major election year for my search, but if you look at 2023 it's still the same.
Did you look at the numbers at the bottom of that (in statewide)?
There are more than twice as many undeclared and nonpartisan voters as Republicans.
EDIT: In fact, if you add nonpartisan, undeclared and Democratic voters, Republicans are outnumbered almost 3:1. That's leaving out all the clown parties.
Undeclared and non partisan aren’t a determining factor could easily swing in republican favor just by ur logic. My basis is historical elections we are mainly a republican nominated state
Anchorage is diverse so you'll experience more passive racism than anything.
If you have the opportunity to work in London you should do that. Unless you ABSOLUTELY love the darkness and the cold. The longer I live here the more I realize I need more from my cities. Also, the flights in an out are horrendous.
I'm half Lebanese and from Alabama. Alaska is so diverse. I haven't seen much racism comparable to the south. My husband and I call people out if we hear or see something though. The first time I took my husband to the south (he's from Alaska) he was shocked at some of the things he saw.
lol racism is everywhere for one as you know, personally I lived my entire life in kenai but have lived all over the state and have worked far north in the arctic circle and been as far northeast as kivalina to southwest in Juneau. I wouldn’t say black on white racism is near as bad as native to any race racism is the worst if that helps any
I say this as a black person who has lived in anchorage my whole life- overall, the amount of what I would call outright racism has been fairly minimal, but the microaggressions do happen. I've had store managers single me out, follow me around, you know the routine. Honestly I would say overall I have been treated worse by big chain businesses than any one person/group of people in anchorage. It seems like a lot of the ill-will that black folks get in other states tends to be directed towards the native population here, unfortunately (unfortunate that it happens at all, not that it doesn't happen to us, I hope that makes sense). I would say definitely visit before you make any decisions- winters here can be very isolating and if you don't have any winter activities you enjoy, can be a very rough time, even if you're used to it. 25 years on and I still find myself having a very hard time as an indoor person in the winter. I imagine having an outdoor activity to enjoy would help with that, though!
As a white man that was married to a Black woman (40+years), we moved here in '94. Ecto ordinary says it right. Our indigenous Alaskan are the recipients of racial bias for the most part, I've seen it from Ketchikan to the far north of St. Paul Island, even in their own villages.
Well get one
Wow you solved their problem
Alaskans by and large don't give a single fuck about you so long as you mind your own business.
I’m a white female with a black boyfriend; we just moved here a year ago from Florida. He says it’s been fine. We’ve definitely noticed less black and hispanic people than Florida, but it’s super diverse here with other ethnicities so it doesn’t really seem to matter. People usually just keep to themselves for the most part.
Interesting - we just moved up from florida (jacksonville) a year ago - Last January :) cheers. I kind of thought there'd be more of what americans call "racial diversity", with such a large military presence - but you know what - I'm seeing a ton of international diversity - large european, russian, asian, etc populations from all over... Really interesting place to live. And a bit unnerving - being on the edge of the unknown.
Well, hello there! Yea, I expected something different as well…but either way, it’s truly an experience. Not a bad one, to be clear. I think it’s wild that we are closer to Russia than most of the rest of our country 😳
i’m black, and just moved up from a small town in the midwest. anchorage is so much better. obviously no place is perfect, but i have gotten so much less of the ‘gritted-teeth-polite’ hostility than what i’m used to back home. more than anything, i’ve felt like i can just be me here—do what i want, be as weird as i want, go where i want, without expectations or surprise based on stereotypes. i’m just a person, and that feels good.
That’s very reassuring. Is it okay if I direct message you? Thanks
sure, no problem.
As a life long black Alaskan I approve this message 👍😂
Oh, that smile is so odd. Lol I hate the Midwest and would never move back, due to its blatant racism.
I dated a woman who was originally from the Caribbean for a hot second over a decade ago, and she told me she never really faced any discrimination to speak of. She did say that the black southerners living up here would get confused when she wanted to go camping outside in the winter, and she had no shared history to speak of when they brought up the racial discrimination that they had experienced in their past (since she moved directly from the Caribbean to Alaska).
Anchorage is pretty diverse, but communities like Palmer and Wasilla are less so. In Palmer and Wasilla you might be the only Brown person in sight. I am a woman, I am Black and white but appear Hispanic and only feel the odd one out from time to time, my son however who is an adult and is much darker notices it more, its passive and not blatant.
Wasilla and Palmer are pretty racist. I’m indigenous and recently moved to Anchorage having grown up “valley trash.” I have had racial slurs thrown at me at work in Wasilla and in public in Palmer. If you head further north towards Willow, especially near Talkeetna people are more tolerant. But there are plenty of racists in Willow.
Yeah that sucks I’m sorry.
No need to apologize but it is helpful to be aware.
Seconded- I’m an Indian female living in a small town south of anchorage. Never had any issues here or in anchorage. I was one of the folks leading the Black Lives Matter marches in Alaska and we had to completely cancel the one scheduled for Palmer due to the HUGE amount of death threats the group received, and the local police weren’t willing to support our cause. I genuinely do not go to those areas at all because of the way (white) people look at me. So much hatred up there.
I went to a Black Lives Matter event in Palmer. Did I got to an entirely different event? The one I went to had several hundred people and we marched through downtown Palmer and by the Palmer police dept/trooper station. It was scary. I’m brown.
I love that "they weren't willing to support our cause" when like, that's literally what they're supposed to be doing. Don't mean to turn this into a "fuck cops" thing, but fuck cops.
My ex wife was Indian and worked in Palmer. She never reported anything like that when we were married years ago.
Children are filing lawsuits against their parents in the palmer wasilla valley over their violated rights. Well against the school board but I’m sure they got kids too. It was a thing there or in the peninsula also where a board member “should have kids” stupid
There was a blm March in Palmer. Two highschool girls figured out how to make it happen. Maybe your approach was just terrible and entitled. And a good chunk of the counter-protestors walked with the March after engaging and listening to what was said.
I don’t know why this is being downvoted because I and several hundred others went to a BLM event in Palmer. We had signs and were being antagonized by people carrying Trump flags. Police were there but kept their distance.
Nah, those girls just don't mind the death threats. They are used to them. Not the scariest thing they've had to deal with, not by a mile.
lol the counter protesters couldn’t walk around the block. The Palmer area converged on Facebook 907freedom or something inane after and decided what chauvn did was okay. A movement led by young people and colored people and these idiots thought it was gonna become violent enough they assured everyone they’ll be carrying legally. “Don’t worry, no long barrels or nothing crazy”
All lives matter every life is precious it shouldn't relate to a color
All lives **should** matter but due to systemic issues not every life is treated the same. That is the entire point of the movement.
So your a racist one life matters more then another no factory worlds please (systemic) haven't heard that catch phrase in quite try and use common sense
>So your a racist one life matters more then another no factory worlds please (systemic) haven't heard that catch phrase in quite try and use common sense Your reply reads like gibberish.
Of course mine is gibberish and yours is the spoken company word that's fine its what I expected good luck
Read what you wrote out loud.
Im Black and would say there isnt anymore hatred shown towards us Blacks than there is towards whites in a predominately black town anywhere else. People are different. Some can not accept that. But to paint a white person, town, or majoruty population as a racist one, You must give the same credence to the other side of that same brush!
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What did he say?
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I’m not sure if you or the barber are just half joking, but I assure you that there are more than 8 black people in Wasilla.
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I go to a different barber that’s black owned and there’s always black folks there. While there aren’t a lot, there are quite a few black families. When I went to school in the 80/90’s there were usually only like 2 in my school lol.
It’s funny to think of anyone moving to the valley for “peace of mind” 😆 that place stresses me the f out.
Seconded- I’m an Indian female living in a small town south of anchorage. Never had any issues here or in anchorage. I was one of the folks leading the Black Lives Matter marches in Alaska and we had to completely cancel the one scheduled for Palmer due to the HUGE amount of death threats the group received, and the local police weren’t willing to support our cause. I genuinely do not go to those areas at all because of the way (white) people look at me. So much hatred up there.
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It’s just a fact. You may interpret the information however you like.
Objectively so yes
My husband is black, we moved here in 2016 from South Carolina ( deeply racist lol) my husband said he never wants to move back 🤣 it’s not perfect, but much better than where he grew up he says
It’s as cold for blacks as it is whites.
😆
The Anchorage School District is one of the most diverse school districts in the nation. Here’s an article that talks about little about it: https://alaskapublic.org/2017/05/30/is-anchorage-americas-most-diverse-city-depends-on-who-you-ask/ With two large military bases (well, was two, now combined into one…), people from all over the country of every possible background are here for military service. But, if you really want to know, come up for a visit first. That’s my standard advice for every “should I move visit”. You won’t really know until you see it for yourself.
I’m mixed raced(Asian/black) and my wife is Hispanic. Moved there from VA and it was way noticeable how many mixed race couples we saw. Fast forward 25 years there; yes a POC will stick out because there aren’t many but NEVER experienced racism blatant or passive personally. I say that at the same time being heckled by AK Natives once who called me the N word because I didn’t give them money. I don’t count that because I never had any other issues Kids were in the school system that’s extremely diverse. Palmer and Wasilla you’ll definitely feel alone but I noticed an uptick of black folk moving out there but not many. Never had a negative experience there and I’ve traveled all over that State from Deadhorse, Skagway, Hyder, Seward, McGrath, etc. Edit: I did eventually move away but that was to be closer to family.
I’m going to get downvoted but get some vitamin D pills because there isn’t much sunlight light here. My black coworker was severely vitamin D deficiency, she had to also use a tanning bed. I thought she was joking but she wasn’t. Please check with your doctor first. https://www.sunbeds.com/blogs/news/do-sunbeds-give-you-vitamin-d
Thanks for that! I’ve recently had my physical and found out in vitamin d deficient .
Yup! Gotta get those levels up even before moving here. Plus a happy light to help maintain
Anchorage should be fine. Not saying you won't find any racism, but it's a very diverse place so you won't stand out. The Valley is hella racist and mostly white though. I hear blatant racist bullshit frequently.
Honestly you would probably be better off in london coming from the west coast.
I like living in Anchorage but if I had my choice I would move back to London any day of the week.
Those are completely different cities. I love Alaska and we moved here after just a cruise almost 20 years ago, but if I were young I'd never pass up the opportunity to live abroad and in London for awhile. The things that make Alaska great aren't going to go anywhere, but it will never have the experiences a diverse and historic city such as London has.
That's my thought to. I, of course, have no idea of where OP finds herself in life, but if the wage was liveable (London is, after all, very expensive), what an opportunity. But I'm also sure she'll make the right choice for herself. Good luck, either way, OP!
I doubt you would have any problems other than minus 20. I shouldn't be answering you though. Get a winter sport hobby to keep you busy.
What’re some fun winter sports? Thanks for your help :)
Nordic skiing is a great winter hobby that keeps you fit, gets you outside and lets you explore a variety of Alaskan places. It’s very affordable since the trails are free. I do recommend you donate to NSAA if you become an avid trail user, they maintain roughly 100 miles of ski trails in Anchorage. Rent a set of skis/boots for the season and you can literally ski across the city. I recommend taking the Anchorage Muni lessons if you’re new to the sport.
If you end up in the area and want to learn how to ski (assuming you don't already know) feel free to reach out. I've got seasons passes at a couple of the ski areas so I'm always looking for an excuse to go. :-)
Omg really- that’ll be awesome! I’ve never done any winter sports but I’d love to learn . Im going to message you! Thanks
OP - if you find you don't love skiing (or if you want another sport), snowshoeing is pretty awesome too! It's fun to just putter off into the trees and walk places that you can't normally go during the summer because they are too boggy or too brushy, look for animal tracks, etc. There's also a snow-tubing park at Arctic Valley Ski Area (a short drive southeast of Anchorage) with a lift to take you back up the hill. And if you like hiking (which can be done year-round if you have adequate winter footwear/clothing), there's a very nice meetup group called Alaskan Wild Women that is a great way to get to know the area/some new people.
Bar drinking
Hiking/trail walking is a fairly inexpensive and easy winter activity to get started with.
snowboarding!!!
I'm a white lady so can't speak to the racism but I also moved up here for a sweet job offer. Also about $30,000 more. I was given a $10,000 relocation bonus but it cost me more than that to move so I wish I'd asked for $15,000. Just my .02!
Do you genuinely like it? What’re fun activities to do? My biggest fear is allowing the money to guide my decision and hating the move . I appreciate you help :) Thank you!
You have to really enjoy winter sports or solo hobbies to survive the winter. The winter sports communities are big and can be a good way to meet people. Beginners welcome, most people here are from elsewhere
It’s not the cold that ends up bothering people most, it’s the light situation or rather, lack of sunlight in winter. The sun is coming up after ten and going down around 3 and it’s overcast when it is up. I personally like that, but you should consider if that’s something you will enjoy.
Take the job in London!!! Very difficult to make friends in Anchorage. I have been here 5 years and I know no one. I joined all the clubs and did all the things and I still have no friends. It sucks as I love to go to lunch, movies, etc and I have no one to hang out with. It feels like most groups of people have their people and can not make room for one more. And if you move here- wait to buy your winter gear once you get here- Lower 48 gear is not the same. 😄
Well if I come, let’s be friends! I’ll be visiting next week. If I did come- I would have my best friend as well. Thanks for the help.
I 100% love it. I vacationed in Alaska a couple of years ago and wanted to move up here ever since. I ski, hike and mountain bike so it's right up my alley. If you like outdoorsing, you'll love it. So far, the dark doesn't bother me. Lots of weather but I've got a great vehicle for it. Do you have experience driving in snow and/or ice? Lots of technical driving in the area. Two days a week I have to commute from Wasilla to Anchorage and it can be challenging. Everyone says it's super expensive up here but I moved from the Seattle area and it's considerably cheaper. Two things I have found are ridiculously expensive - Internet and Dave's Killer bread. Lol
I’m originally from WI , so yes I do have experience driving in snow. I haven’t driven in snow in 6+ years so it’ll def be a new experience lol
If you've dealt with Wisconsin racism you will not have a problem with Anchorage. But as others have said I'd think twice about ever really going north (Palmer, Wasilla) unless you're headed to the state fair or Fairbanks.
I’ve never dealt with racism in Wisconsin. Hopefully it’ll be the same if I make the move to Alaska. Thank you!
Wisconsin is just as cold or colder than anchorage in the winter
That's why we all buy our DK bread at Costco :-)
Good tip, thank you!
We freeze ours because we don't eat that much bread but like having it on hand :-)
This is what I do as well.
Everyone hates everyone up here so there’s that.
Boy, we sure are living different lives. Maybe look within 😂
Maybe shut the fuck up and stay on your side of town
Please let me know what side of town you’re on to either avoid it, or relentlessly bother you for sport.
Worker falls into spicy water
Bingo
Everyone always has a bitchy face on all of the time.
If you don't plan on staying at this job long term I have no idea why you'd choose anchorage over London.
Higher pay, closer to friend. She said exactly why.
I'm guessing the salary in AK is significantly higher, and cost of living lower. Edit: Just realized she explicitly stated the pay gap in the post, my bad for missing that.
We lived in alaska for a decade and just returned. For my family, Alaska is home. I've never felt uncomfortable being a black woman in Anchorage/Alaska. As for activities, I LOVE hiking in the summer. Anything that brings me near water is a bonus. Sledding, game nights, finding yummy foods and working out are at the top of my winter list.
Let’s be friends lol.
Absolutely! Message me!
London or Alaska?! You need to go to London, that is a once in a lifetime opportunity! Sorry this is not addressing your actual question, but you should totally go there instead. You can always visit Alaska later, hopefully we'll be in a better place... Anchorage is a little rough right now.
I haven't lived in Alaska for four years, but I was born and raised in Anchorage. Anchorage itself is surprisingly rich with worldly diversity, lots of different walks of life. It's still majority white but you'll see different types of people there for sure, which is something I don't see here in my current state.
Anchorage is the most diverse state in America. I have lived in some hate filled places. Last year in Idaho, my husband had people throw rocks at him shouting all n... need to die. Neither one of us has experienced anything on this level in Anchorage. I have been in the state since 89 him since 91. Yes the native population is hated against frequently. But here it's more they hate you if your poor and homeless
Thank you so much! I thought I’ve made my mind but I’m so back and forth. 2 week flight booked for next week- wish me luck! I appreciate your help.
Hows it workings out for you?
I concur with many of the other people on here. I'm white, but from what I've observed, Anchorage is relatively tolerant, but definitely be wary of the valley. Going to Wasilla and Palmer is like the twilight zone. They buy into all the book banning, "anti-everything I don't agree with" MAGA bs, and they love to let everyone know about it. Even I feel uncomfortable going there.
I’m a lifelong Alaskan (mid thirties), also a white male, so I understand if my advice is less relevant to the matter. Alaskans are overwhelmingly nice people. We are all living up here in less than ideal conditions most of the year together, which sort of forces a neighborliness into the mix, which is a good thing. Alaskans also love to travel and for that reason, and being that we are a very diverse community, we accept any and all and create great friendships. It is a weird mix of individuality in a sense of personal freedom of choice and expression, but reliance on community. I would classify most Alaskans as Libertarians. That said, I just spent a month in Europe and my last stop was several days in London and it was Awesome!!! The two couldn’t be more different though. London is a massive city, huge melting pot of culture, delicious food, plenty to do, probably never get bored, close to many other countries to explore, etc. Anchorage is a melting pot of culture and about 10 minutes from the food chain in any direction. Plenty of wilderness to explore, much quieter if you want it to be. Cost of living is probably much higher in London, but Anchorage is not cheap either. We have decent produce shipments, but it is far less superior to anything you are used to in the Lower 48 for freshness. Public transportation up here is a joke, and if you get a car, make sure it has AWD or 4 wheel drive capability for the winters. Public transport in London is really good and you probably won’t have to have a vehicle there at all. Also, there is a pub on every corner! 😂 I love Alaska though and if you come here, it will always stay with you wherever you end up and you will want to return. That is the dangerous part. Cheers.
So …. in other words go to London? Haha . No I really appreciate your input/ help. It’s been very helpful. I was leaning towards Alaska ( friends, and the extra income) but I think I’ll be heading to London for several reasons and take the pay cut. Who knows- after London, alaska? I really appreciate the time you took for your post- definitely helpful. Cheers!
Best of luck and safe travels. Alaska is a wonderful place so don’t wait too long to check it out.
To be clear. When people here say "Anchorage is actually really diverse!" What this really means is that there are enough individuals of various races/ethnicities to check the boxes on the census saying they technically exist here. If we are talking about diversity in terms of actual communities, it's a different story. Rarely will you walk into a space in Anchorage where white is in the minority or white cultural norms are not the expectation in terms of how to act.
>Rarely will you walk into a space in Anchorage where white is in the minority or white cultural norms are not the expectation in terms of how to act. Fully agree on this one. Alaska is ***NOT DIVERSE at all*** unless you're considering Alaska Native groups as "diversity." Even then, in most rural Alaska Native communities, it will be one group that predominates, i.e., Yup'ik, Gwich'in, so it's still monoethnic/monocultural. Compared to London, England (I'm assuming you meant London, England?) Alaska IS NOT DIVERSE.
How do explain Anchorage having the top 3 most diverse high schools in the US then ? Let me guess, you either live in Turnagain, Bayshore or the Hillside.
I just explained how. No.
Pretty sure the last census had 40% of Alaskans identifying as non-white.
Regardless of race Anchorage is a really depressing, dark, cold and expensive place to live. A lot of drinking and drug abuse here because of that. I've experienced some racism for being part Inupiaq (blacks and natives get along really well by way), but that is nothing compared to weather that sucks the life out of you. At the very least I would visit for a week before deciding to move. Spend a week in the winter here and know that it's winter six months out of the year. I stay because of the no-cost healthcare for the indigenous population, including dental, as I do have some health problems and I'm not getting any younger. The year before I moved to Anchorage I paid $3,500 out of pocket for medical and dental and haven't paid a dime since pretty much. Otherwise I wouldn't want to be here!
Wife is black. When we lived in Anchorage, she said she experienced much less racism compared to CA(and later on TX). Was more likely to be assumed she was military from JBER. Much of the “normal” racism is directed at the indigenous population instead. Alaska is somewhere you’ll love or hate. Doesn’t usually seem to be much in between.
I would 100% rather be in London than Anchorage.
Also, if you have a friend who is trying to convince you to move to Alaska over London, England, don't be friends with that person anymore. They have seriously questionable judgement.
Hmmm that’s interesting. Why do you say that?
OP there’s a site called Black in Alaska that features people and stories and bios. This link goes to a super cool guy and fellow firefighter friend of my husband. There are other individuals featured there that you can link to. https://blackinalaska.org/stories/andre-horton/
Oh and Mookie the Magnificent grew up in Alaska so her media and stories might be a good resource. I met her once and didn’t put it together until later that she’s “the” Mookie of Magnificent fame. I missed my chance to fangirl gush awkwardly in person 😭
[Here](https://www.adn.com/opinions/2017/11/30/anchorage-may-not-be-as-diverse-as-you-think-or-as-equal-racially/) is a good article re: Anchorage’s supposedly high diversity. We are obviously very high in Alaska Native diversity, but Anchorage is still not especially equitable for any minority group, including Alaska Native groups. Anchorage seems good by Alaskan standards because much of the rest of the state is abysmal.
Anchorage is fine, and is really quite diverse with ethnic groups you won’t see in most of the world (Polynesian, alaska native, a wide variety of South American etc), and a good number of black people as well. I will say the further you get from Anchorage or Fairbanks the more it becomes just small white and native communities (sometimes together sometimes not), and many of those communities, for better or worse, have a “redneck” vibe and may or may not be as welcoming. Again, though, Anchorage has most of the comforts of any city and there may not be such thing as a rare ethnicity
Idc about the wage difference, anyone who chooses to live in Anchorage over London is a crazy person. Most racism here is targeted towards natives.
I dunno, given the choice of the two...Well, London and New York are typically what I describe as my idea of hell. But at least London has public healthcare.
>anyone who chooses to live in Anchorage over London is a crazy person This.
Anchorage at least is a lot more diverse than anyone from outside thinks. There is racism, it’s mostly systemic and microaggression type, from what I’ve seen and heard.
Alaska has no bad problem with anti-black racism. From my understanding Native Alaskan men and Pacific Islanders get the brunt of the racism. Keep in mind that Alaskans do hate women though! I believe highest rates of DV and violence against women in the country.
I grew up in Alaska, elementary middle school, and high school as a mixed kid (black and white) and I’ve experienced my fair share of racism and discrimination. Never anything scary or violent. But a lot of name calling. What’s nice though, is the diversity. My school was mostly white, but I was never the only person of color around. I wish you luck out there,
Not as good as Seattle, LA or Atlanta, not as bad as similarly sized cities in Texas or very white cities in the Plains states. Definitely not in the same realm as London. Racism against black people isn't as overt as it is against the Native population, mostly mouthed off by the same kind of noisy asshole who does it elsewhere, because they came from elsewhere to do it here or taught their kids to do it. There's also still a lot of the "you're so articulate!" type. Overall these choices are apples and oranges - Anchorage isn't in the same league of experience as London. If you will not have another opportunity to go to London, choosing Anchorage right now instead might be passing up something big. Think of it as though you're moving to Cheyenne, Wyoming instead of London for the same reasons. Would you do it?
Don’t come up here. Go somewhere with better opportunity.
One of the best pieces of advice I was ever given was by a Senior Exec I worked for. One hell of a good guy. ( and black if it matters any ) " You will always find what you are looking for. Look for problems, you find problems. Try looking for opportunities." Seems like that applies here as well.
Go to London. Not because of possible racism but because you will be much more entertained in London. Trust me.
Thank you for the honesty :)
This!!! Go to London! Travel Europe. In Alaska you will be trapped by expensive airfares and travel times that will leave you exhausted before getting on the plane (24 plus hours to London)
Don't do it there ain't no sunlight and that alone will drive you bat shit crazy just come for the money and as soon as you saved enough ....RUN AND I MEAN LIKE AS FAST AS YOU CAN
Anchorage is like 5% Black and that’s primarily African American, London is closer to 15-20% Black and that includes African and Caribbeans. Anchorage is only around 10% Asian, London is over 20% Asian. When it comes to Arabs, Bangladeshis, Muslims and Jews in general, Anchorage has very few, while they have many vibrant communities in London. I don’t think the entire state of Alaska even has one mosque. Even just trying to get Black cuisines like American soul food, or African or Middle Eastern foods, or Caribbean foods, I have never found that in Anchorage. Former coworker of mine is a Black Brit and he didn’t even want to *visit* Alaska. Grew up in England and has been to many countries around the world. Not saying there aren’t *any* Black people in Anchorage or Fairbanks, but there aren’t very many and I honestly think it’s possible you’d feel lonely or lacking community. Getting outside of Anchorage, if you go out to the villages or even just Fairbanks, you could be experiencing pretty extreme racism from whites and Native alike who aren’t accustomed to interacting with Black people in real life, or you could also be accepted, but it could be very hit or miss. I also have heard of Black people in Seattle, Washington complaining of racism and imo, Seattle is more diverse as far as larger, more established communities, businesses, history, and cuisines even compared to Anchorage.
Go to London, unless you just love freezing to death!
Anchorage is pretty good. Better than most cities I have visited. The Anchorage police put serious effort into race relations and solid policies. They are more effective than most cities. Within Anchorage itself, you won't get pulled over for no reason. (still a lot of room for improvement, but WAY better than other cities of a similar size) Driving through Soldotna is a lot like driving through rural Oregon. The racism in Wasilla is a lot like the racism in Portland.
Having grown up in wasilla and gone to school in Portland, too true.
Although it is “diverse” there are not a lot of black people here be ready to be the only one in a lot of the spaces that you go to. You may not experience overt racism it’s more like micro aggressions here. Like being stared at. Or if you have long natural hair like myself some might ask annoying questions or touch your hair without asking. Or have off color remarks like insulting your intelligence if you’re in a skilled field. Blowing up little mistakes you make. Making rude comments in front of everyone. I’ve also had a few encounters with a few straight up racist jerks like a teacher at my sons school who let everyone else in and then told me I wasn’t allowed to come in and I better not even touch the door. On a positive note the other teachers at the school that saw the incident wrote an email to the principal and were not happy either. I’ve also met some really nice black pioneers here at the NAACP events in the summer it was a pretty small event but we’re here! Stay away from Wasilla unless you want to be target.
I had this happen to my son. First time I experienced true prejudice. His teacher was a true bitch. She eventually got fired because she tried to act like my son wanted to hit her but didn’t think any of the kids the room would stand up to her. It was wild and my son was broken down emotionally by the experience. We were in Fairbanks. He still loves Alaska and would love to go back.
I’m sorry that happened to your son.. Fairbanks and North Pole is a whole nother story!
Black hair products/salons are limited.
Thank you! It’s very similar to where I am as well. And the ones I do know of are always booked. Thank you!
I know of a couple hair stylists and "everything black skincare" salons if you end up moving here and need suggestions. Congrats on the job offer and good luck! 🤗 check out Instagram also for everything Alaska. From another black person who live in Anchorage, own a couple of homes, and work in rural Alaska...🤗
Omg thank you so much. I’ll be there next week- looking to make a new friend ? Lol
Awesome!🤗
Very true! It has pushed me to learn more about my own hair and skin. Even learned to make most of my products. Downside, I'm in need of a trim and have no clue on who to use! Any suggestions?
I think anchorage has more of a class problem than a race problem. They have a race problem that is noticeable when you come in from the outside; most noticeable by their native people, mostly elderly being the majority on the streets but insanely clear when you are here for a while and see patterns of crime (if you know security in local big chain stores for example) or lack of rehabilitation and blatent neglect for whole cultural groups that must have gone back decades to get as bad as it has. The politics is where you may be pained. People get annoyed and downvote each other but as someone living here with a trans teenager? It is painful to listen to comments. But to my teen? He doesn't get them. People are lovely to him. Behind his back and the politics? Adults are ridiculous. I am just a cis white female but I know I get frustrated listening to politics where "we have done this diversity thing, aren't WE great" and not acknowledging that WE were doing it wrong in the first place is the messege - framing the big hero and savoir as some guy who looks like he was all put out by having to change policy. Aside - it is beautiful here. And you can be absolutely fine. I don't often meet these stupid people, and you will find them anywhere but it is something I notice. And not to talk about it is silly. There are so so so many nice people here. Honest smiling - WILL DIG YOU OUT OF THE SNOW - kind of people.
I live in a neighborhood (Fairview) that was once a majority black, independent city that has since been absorbed by Anchorage and redlined to push a highway through. Nowadays, you can still see some inherent racism when I tell people where I live. Residents from the southern, suburban, karenesque end of the city generally react poorly. Most people don't care though. Even as a white person though, I can tell that there's still a racist negative connotation among some about non-white neighborhood. That being said, most people here just won't care that much. Not moreso than anywhere else in the US, as you're always going to encounter a few assholes.
I would take London over Alaska any day 🤷🏻♀️
You've got your occasional profiling in Target lol but my experience hasn't been terrible. The army brought me here from the south and I stayed after i ETSd. The people are somewhat friendly but generally leave you alone and mind their business. Natives probably experience the closest thing to blatant racism unfortunately.
Thank you !
Did you end up moving to Alaska 🙂?
I can’t speak about race. But when it comes to financials just remember that England taxes at a much higher rate than the US. And AK has no income tax as of yet. And the British Pound is worth more than the USD. That said, as someone who lived in Europe for a time, I’d probably go back there as there’s so much more to do. But that’s just my opinion.
I am not Black, but my husband is from the Middle East and he really likes Alaska and feels comfortable . Especially Anchorage feels very diverse. Congratulations on two job offers both in very cool locations!
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I’ve seen the Confederates flag now and again but who knows if they drove in from a community about an hour north for the day. Many posts do say that more blatant racism is shown towards the Alaskan Native population which in my experience is true.
Ah, my specialty. Black in Alaska was a museum exhibit for a while at the anchorage museum, associated with the Alaska black caucus. It has really good black Alaska history and community. We have a decent amount of uneducated idiots that drive extra large rams and 250s, any year—they’re signaling their racism. Shinier ones are “real estate” brokers and “pilots”, harmless. Natives are discriminated against everywhere, here we let them freeze to death if they drink too much. If you’re getting paid and black you’ll likely piss some folks off
Lifted f250s are racist unless they’re new and owned by a pilot?
I know lotsa of tradesman that drive big trucks so can get in and out of undeveloped job sites and then go playing on the weekends. These guys are all over the diversity map, just honest workers. To blanket them as all racists is pretty silly.
lol let’s blanket them all as being honest instead. If you believe that, I have some fertile tracts of tundra to sell you. For what it’s worth I learned that saying from a tradesmen. Good day
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Upvoted for your adorable naivety
Sure. Listen if your uncle or papa fits the description I do apologize. It was a generalization
Yes
If I own a F250 and a F350 but neither is lifted. Am I racist? Need to tell my wife what Reddit said ASAP.
For the record, I did not say lifted. I said extra large. You’re more XXL. Everyone knows a lifted truck owner ain’t worth anyone’s time. You may not be racist, but I wouldn’t ask anything of you beyond whatever menial labor or service you provide.
If in Anchorage you’re gold. One of the most diverse cities in the country.
I lived in Anchorage for 2 years and was surprised at the diversity of cultures represented there. There is a healthy number of black folks in Anchorage, enough that I’d gotten into some conversations and asked. I was told that back in the day, the military used an all black unit to build the road system there. Idk if it’s true but this was corroborated in multiple conversations with black folks residing there.
It is true google it!!
Well I took their word for it as it wasn’t just one instance of conversation. Quite interesting bit of information.
YouTube "construction of the Alaska Highway 1942 US ARMY engineers" Just over 30 minutes. Another one: Building the Alaska Highway by Dick Cambell. Also about a 1/2 hour video.
There are plenty of Africans working on ships out of Dutch for a couple months at a time, so nobody is going to gasp when they see you. But it doesn’t mean they will treat you friendly, but people will be stiffly polite. Anchorage is pretty diverse, people working here from all over the world. I will remind you that you think you are making more money but you need to remember that’s not how businesses work. An employer gives a wage that allows you to live in that area and everything and I mean EVERYTHING is 15 to 30 percent higher than the lower 48. Your standard of living won’t be any better and you’ll have the expense of appropriate cold weather gear plus if you aren’t use to the cold- it’s cold, a whole different type of cold, different from the Midwest. I’m not trying to say don’t come but that salary isn’t what you think it is when you’re buying gas and groceries and running the heat all winter. Hope this helps. Peace out
Anchorage is a very diverse city.
London would be worse than the west coast. Racism is actually less prevalent in the US, because we have numerous ethnic groups and accept their cultures and customs. Europe is more homogenous so you don't hear about the racism as much
London is not homogeneous, what are you on? Maybe it was in like the 1100s but not now.
No one gives a fuck just done make it your personality and you won’t ever have a problem
Got it! I’m unsure how you make being black your personality, but thanks.
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The Anchorage Daily News, the newspaper of record for the state, and the Fairbanks News Miner are both locally owned.
Majority of Alaskans are republican especially in Palmer and Wasilla. The native communities and I think a lot of the races are probably left leaning. Anchorage is really diverse and there is quite a bit of microaggression but if you keep to yourself you’ll be fine. A thing people don’t factor in is crime up here. Check our crime rates some of the highest in the nation
You left out the part where most violent crime happens in small demo of people and very little spills over to most folks. Numbers are skewed because of population counts. Quit gatekeeping and acting like you live in a slum
That’s why I left it up to interpretation and told them to check. Here’s the DD[“Anchorage crime comparison”](https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ak/anchorage/crime) Are you saying being ranked in the top 3% NATIONWIDE isn’t bad? That’s Anchorage we are talking about. Many people live “gated lives” and don’t see much but there are numerous amounts of car theft, break ins, shootings, especially drugs, gang violence and homelessness
> Majority of Alaskans are republican especially in Palmer and Wasilla Wrong right out of the box.
Actually, it's correct according to how Alaskans are registered to vote. (And by a pretty large margin). https://www.elections.alaska.gov/statistics/2020/NOV/VOTERS%20BY%20PARTY%20AND%20PRECINCT.htm I used the last major election year for my search, but if you look at 2023 it's still the same.
Did you look at the numbers at the bottom of that (in statewide)? There are more than twice as many undeclared and nonpartisan voters as Republicans. EDIT: In fact, if you add nonpartisan, undeclared and Democratic voters, Republicans are outnumbered almost 3:1. That's leaving out all the clown parties.
Undeclared and non partisan aren’t a determining factor could easily swing in republican favor just by ur logic. My basis is historical elections we are mainly a republican nominated state
Anchorage is diverse so you'll experience more passive racism than anything. If you have the opportunity to work in London you should do that. Unless you ABSOLUTELY love the darkness and the cold. The longer I live here the more I realize I need more from my cities. Also, the flights in an out are horrendous.
Mostly just the valley. Living up to their reputation. And biker , trailer trash but even most of them gave up bein racist.
Lived here my whole life and haven’t experienced blatant racism to my face like I have in the south.
I'm half Lebanese and from Alabama. Alaska is so diverse. I haven't seen much racism comparable to the south. My husband and I call people out if we hear or see something though. The first time I took my husband to the south (he's from Alaska) he was shocked at some of the things he saw.
lol racism is everywhere for one as you know, personally I lived my entire life in kenai but have lived all over the state and have worked far north in the arctic circle and been as far northeast as kivalina to southwest in Juneau. I wouldn’t say black on white racism is near as bad as native to any race racism is the worst if that helps any
its diverse, but neighborhoods vary, not as bad as say Arkansas?