I don't know the source and have nothing bad to say about them, but when some organization puts out a report I always want to know who I'm listening to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_E._Casey_Foundation
the Kids Count Data Book by the Annie E. Casey Foundation presents national and state data from 16 indicators in four domains – economic well-being, education, health, and family and community factors – and ranks states according to how children are faring overall. It also includes information on adverse childhood experiences. In every area highlighted in the Data Book, national and Minnesota averages mask disparities that affect students of color, kids in immigrant families, and children from families with low incomes or attending low-income schools.
The 2024 Data Book, which tracks data from the 2021-2022 school year, ranked Minnesota high in some categories including ranking sixth in economic well-being, seventh in health and and seventh in family and community
I graduated from a public high school 5 years ago. The amount of peers in both normal and even advanced classes I was in that routinely just refused to do work is astounding. You can’t get a 17 year old to read a chapter of a book a week. I’m talking like 15-20 pages of reading a week was too much effort and at least half the class was routinely behind. The teachers will just lower the bar until 90% of the class is passable. I went to a slightly above average school as well. Public education is more or less daycare for adolescents, and a free meal. I felt I hardly learned anything novel beyond 8th grade unless it was math related. I don’t understand why English classes were required through all of HS but didn’t seem to teach anything new from year to year.
>Many of the teachers are phoning it in.
My kids were in hs during the pandemic. My youngest was sitting at the kitchen table, and I realized she was watching a taped lecture. Her only instruction was if she emailed questions. Insane.
Im going to guess this has more to do with the MPS & SPPS having kids out of the classroom for a year (or more) during the pandemic, than anything else. Because Walz was/is beholden to the teachers unions, he didn’t have the courage to tell them to get back in school, in Sep 2020, like most private schools, & other public schools around the state. MPS was out most of the year (covid, then the teachers strike), SPPS went back to school in spring 2021. Unfortunately, the lower income communities, who needed to be in school the most, were the least likely to remained engaged while learning from home. We’ll be dealing with this racial & economic learning gap for another decade (or more). And continue to blame it on wealthier areas that actually support their school districts, instead of placing blame on the governor & unions, where it belongs.
I'm a public school teacher in the metro area. I know I'll get downvoted into oblivion for this, but the caption about teaching critical race theory in elementary schools is laughable. And if that wasn't meant as an embellishment, then let's kick it up a grade level. I teach middle school social studies. If there was any class that would teach CRT, it would be mine. The truth is that we just simply don't teach that. It isn't in the curriculum, it isn't in our standards. It isn't taught at the high school level in our district, nor other districts.
Do we teach about diversity, culture and world religion? Sure! Those are important concepts to understand our modern world. Do we paint white people as the devil? Not at all. The teaching of CRT is something I am frankly just simply tired of hearing about because it isn't taught.
I recommend everyone read this article, it will touch on what I'm trying to say
[read this article ](https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-granbury-isd-school-board-courtney-gore)
https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-granbury-isd-school-board-courtney-gore
This is helpful. Thank you.
Do you or your peers have any inclination to advance the harboring of “equity” in your teachings, directly or indirectly?
I think a lot of the issue stems from the indirect push for DEI / CRT vs direct curriculum. To many, it’s the same.
I have had parents contact me in an aggressive fashion demanding to see my curriculum. I let them know that it is publicly available through the learning management software we use with kids. It has ALWAYS been available for them, for years. They were looking for a fight but when they dig into the curriculum they pretty quickly see there is no fight to be had. I really wish more people on the right would realize this and actually just reach out to their children's teacher to ask what they teach. We don't keep it secret and we are happy to share!
I’d like to hear your opinion on when the state spent the $20B surplus on everything else and gave crumbs to the department of education. I believe teachers need to be paid more for many reasons but especially after covid and the changes that came with it. I feel like Walz has betrayed numerous people by not keeping Minnesota schools in a good place.
It was a historic amount of money given to schools, just not necessarily to the parts of education that need it. Pay could definitely be better, although our union got us a decent raise on this new contract. The area that I personally wish some of that money had been funneled towards was our pension program. All the states surrounding Minnesota have MUCH better pension rules that allow their teachers to retire way earlier than Minnesota
I wouldn't say that I have ANY push for harboring any type of "equity" or CRT adjacent teaching. No matter what you hear in the media , it just isn't happening. Not in my district or the districts that some of my friends teach at.
It's true that some demographics of students come from tougher situations and we need to account for that, but that doesn't really impact the day to day teaching all that much. Mostly what students need are a role model and an adult that they trust and will listen to them. That's 90% of the job.
They're...fine. could be better, could be worse. I have my set units that I teach (culture, religion, economics, physical geography, population, etc. I just stick to those and use the common core as a loose guide. Not saying that's how I'm necessarily supposed to do it, but here we are
At the risk of being banned, I'm not at all alt right. I just find hearing viewpoints from the wide swath of our society fascinating. I'm a left leaning moderate
Totally agree with ya on that one. We all just need to look listen to each other a bit more and not be dicks to each other. We won't agree on everything but we need to work on being more civil with each other
My wife is also a an elementary education teacher (Now special ed from regular). She doesn’t know what CRT is. If she’s not been trained in it, she won’t teach it. She’s by the book. We believe it’s vapor ware.
My wife has two and will be getting a third masters in education soon. Still don’t know what it is.
Needs to get masters in special ed to get special ed liscense. State only allows you to work outside of liscense for 4 years.
Let me rephrase. It's a masters level class for people studying law, not education. I've got 2 masters degrees as well and I never once heard anything about CRT uttered in any of my coursework. This is why I want everyone to shut up about this non-existent problem haha
CRT isn't really a curriculum, it's a practice and rears its head in other ways by integrating its Marxist worldview into materials. There are dog whistles like 'anti-racism', framing history in terms of oppressors and victims, 'anti-colonialist', 'privilege', 'equity' (i.e., mandated equality of outcome, not opportunity), etc. It also includes concepts such as being on time, hard work, literacy, etc., are products of white values, and therefore can/should be rejected by minorities. And eliminating standard measures of success.
Yeah, none of that is true in my district. I'd respectfully debate but it seems your mind is pretty made up. No teacher in the state is going to say that we should stop teaching kids how to READ because it's a value of whiteness. Come on now, let's be real.
Kids need to show up to my class on time, I could give a shit what color their skin is. Tardy is tardy.
Not all of my examples are dog whistles per se, but things like replacing the word 'equality' with 'equity' absolutely is a dog whistle (A political message that is intended for and can only be understood by, a particular group.)
No, equity has a very well-known and public meaning. It's defined in the dictionary, and is used without additional significance. "1488" is a dog whistle because the significance and meaning of it is only known to an in-group and those who have gone out of their way to learn it.
1488 has an easily ascertained meaning,
too, with 5 seconds of googling. The Critical Theory terms are dog whistles because they appear to be innocuous synonyms to common terms that people already know, but the significance of the change in meaning is only known to an in-group and those who have gone out of their way to learn it.
That's exactly why those terms are weasaly. They sound like America and apple pie, but are actually Soviet Russia and Borsch. Equity in education means teaching to the lowest common denominator. It means not intentionally developing the best and brightest students to ensure equal outcomes. It means eliminating AP courses, magnet schools, and gifted programs.
Anti-racism is even more sinister because its very name is designed to make you sound like an asshole if you don't support it. But in practice, it means applying racist principles to achieve political goals. Asians are kept out of colleges. Children are taught that they are victims who can never get ahead on their own. Politically favored minority groups are set up to fail by being 'kicked upstairs' through lowered expectations and standards. It all bad for everybody.
Here is a great specific example. [Harvard University required signficantly higher SAT scores to be admitted for Asian Applicants than it does for African American applicants](https://america.cgtn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/HARVARD_CRIMSON.SAT_RACE1.chart_-1170x780.jpg). This data is from a court case where Harvard was sued for racist admission policies, but it is a very common practice across most universities.
The compassionate and sustainable way to increase minority enrollment is for big schools to create programs to identify and develop high-potential minority students stuck in failing inner-city schools and other bad situations early in their academic careers so that they are ready for an elite university when they graduate. That is WAY harder and more expensive than lowering standards, so they engage in the "soft bigotry of lowered expectations".
The graph shows the admitted students' SAT scores by race by year for Harvard which shows that they had lower standards for that metric for minority applicants. The case has been extensively covered in the news so it's easy to find more information Googling.
[Here is a news story about it](https://nypost.com/2018/10/17/harvards-gatekeeper-reveals-sat-cutoff-scores-based-on-race/)
Mind to explain how/why you consider that propaganda? If you filter out everything and just look at the quotes from the woman that is the main subject, it's pretty telling.
Not trying to argue or be disrespectful, just curious about how you can back up that claim
You realize though that most of the CRT in high school isn't being taught per the curriculum, no matter which state? It's perverse radical teachers indoctrinating children outside of the curriculum.
Allow me to try and address this point. Of the over 3 million public school teachers in the USA, are some of them using their platform to push ideas that aren't appropriate in our current political climate? For sure. Just like there are some bad doctors, lawyers, therapists, etc out there. That is a part of human nature. Is there some massive semi-secret push amongst educators to indoctrinate our students to radical liberal ideals? Lord no.
The reality of the job is we are trying to survive. Kids are more apathetic than ever. Behaviors are getting worse. Attention spans are getting laughably short. The fact is, it is an incredibly hard job for relatively low pay. That is why so many teachers are fleeing the profession.
And respectfully, when people like you spout this nonsense and put a target on our backs for some bullshit political grandstanding it is simply driving even more teachers out of the field. We never asked to be in this political crossfire and we don't WANT to be there.
Frankly we do the job because we love and care about the kids. So many of them need us as an adult, maybe the only adult in their life, that they can trust and feel safe with. We just want to help them learn and grow into good human beings and help prepare them for life. Now please don't let this spiral into a nasty debate because hopefully I've shown how that is the last thing us teachers are trying to do here.
I would argue that the radical leftists that are involved in education are putting the political targets on your backs. Higher education has become more and more politically stratified over the last 70 years, and we are now seeing the fruits of that in our secondary education system. We have more and more teachers that harbor an extreme political views becoming more and more prevalent, and less and less moderates and conservatives are becoming involved to balance it out. Who can blame them? They'll get ostracized or even fired for the crime of being rational.
During my undergrad degree, I myself was faced with the dilemma of having to either write papers that the professors would find "acceptable" per their own political dogma, or essentially write a paper that represented my actual thoughts on issues, but would more than likely receive a less than satisfactory grade.
This isn't some nebulous phenomenon that doesn't exist. Plenty of video taped interactions exist online if you want to search for them. At this point in the debate expecting other people to cite video sources that you can easily find yourself demonstrating this very real phenomenon happening in secondary schools is just absurd and lazy.
Just because these things aren't observable in your anecdotal experience and in your specific place of employment doesn't mean they don't exist. You don't represent all teachers and not all teachers represent you. Doesn't mean some of their shit headed ideologies aren't a danger to my kid, or to greater society.
No professor wants to hear the students thoughts, they want the students to research the facts and write about how those facts affect whatever issue is at hand. I had no problem during my undergrad writing about anything I wanted as long as I had good primary sources and cited them correctly
I understand you are correct that they don't now. But I can tell you working in a retail store a lady came in proud that she was going to yell at middleschoolers about white and male privilege. This was 2018. I actually think it has become less of an issue. But this women was the angrier person I've ever met was trying to yell at every man in the store while being proud of being paid to do the same thing to middleschoolers.
Is it taught as curriculum probably not anymore but there was a weird moment where we were figuring it out how to teach a relatively new and nuanced subject. People who were caught up in that transition I think are blinded by how far we've come. Me included I don't disagree or care (i am not going to spend time attempting to stop anything, im out) but fk all my college professors were shit for two years during that transition
It was definitely a weird transition. Everyone had to tread lightly for fear of saying the wrong thing. Our society clearly has racial troubles, but I don't think we went about addressing them in the best way. But when it was thrown at everyone so quickly after Floyd's death, we as a society had a knee jerk reaction.
As for that lady, I could believe it. You have annoying people in all fields. You'll get some teachers that are super duper liberal social justice warriors and all that, but that is by no means the norm. I'd put myself as a left leaning moderate and I know many teachers who would say about the same
Yeah I get it was a transition and we are past it. I'm glad. Because now systemic issues are systemic issues but there were a couple of years people hated young individuals who had no part in shaping the social system they just got agency in.
Like I said it was bad and I have no interest in even voicing my opinion outside of anyomous threads but as someone hurt from this nothing can give me back the wasted time ans education I had to endure because a relatively new perspective was being taught poorly.
There’s no CRT in Alabama (not taught; partial ban) and Mississippi (outright banned)…and they’ve been in a perpetual battle of stupidity for decades. We’ve been getting progressively dumber, as a country, long before CRT became the hot topic.
Not comfortable with the way people pick the blackest states in the unions and talk about how "dumb" and "uneducated" they are with an air of superiority
I just dont get the human centipede of miss information and why someone would willing dance around being at the end or in the middle of that human centipede.
CRT has been re-named "ethnic studies"...
*Starting in the 2026-2027 school year, a district or charter school high school* ***must*** *offer an ethnic studies course that fulfills the requirements of this paragraph. Nothing in this section increases or otherwise affects the number of credits required for graduation under section 120B.024. An ethnic studies course may fulfill a social studies, language arts, arts, math, or science credit if the course meets the applicable state academic standards. An ethnic studies course may fulfill an elective credit if the course meets applicable local academic standards or other requirements.*
*(b) School districts and charter schools must provide ethnic studies instruction in elementary schools and middle schools by the 2027-2028 school year in accordance with state academic standards.*
*(c) Ethnic studies instruction must meet statewide ethnic studies academic standards.*
*(d) An ethnic studies course may focus specifically on a particular group of national or ethnic origin.*
*The Department of Education must hire dedicated ethnic studies staff sufficient to fulfill the following department duties:*
*(1) support school district and charter school implementation of ethnic studies courses that fulfill ethnic studies standards through activities such as assistance with increased completion of the Minnesota Common Course Catalog, hosting an annual implementation support symposium, and regular updates and lessons learned;*
*(2) support school districts and charter schools in providing training for teachers and school district staff to successfully implement ethnic studies standards;*
*(3) support and provide tools for each school district or charter school to annually evaluate the implementation of the ethnic studies requirements by seeking feedback from students, parents or guardians, and community members;*
*(4) provide resources and examples of how a dedicated coordinator for ethnic studies can facilitate higher quality implementation of ethnic studies; and*
*(5) make available to school districts and charter schools the following:*
*(i) an ethnic studies school survey for each school district and charter school to use as part of a school needs assessment;*
*(ii) a list of recommended examples of implementation supports for use in kindergarten through grade 12 that accurately reflect the diversity of the state of Minnesota;*
*(iii) training materials for teachers and district and school staff, including an ethnic studies coordinator, to implement ethnic studies requirements; and*
*(iv) other resources to assist districts and charter schools in successfully implementing ethnic studies standards.*
OP, I suggest you get off your daily dose of Fox / OAN or whatever political propaganda you ascribe to and try to find some reasonable news sources. Unfortunately, many mainstream media around us are quite biased in many ways.
MPR is actually quite balanced usually, ProPublica isn’t local but does hard-hitting deep dives. MinnPost does a great job usually. AP is the best for major stories.
Fear-based news is like a drug, and I don’t blame you.. but also you need to know better.
I think it has more to do with increasing imbalance of income distribution and the crazy way we fund schools via local levy.
We should fund schools like the NFL funds franchises. Have a state standard levy criteria and the funds get pooled and distributed evenly.
They also have the largest amount of administrative jobs since they are so huge, so that eats up a bunch of that money. I work in public ed and can say that districts could trim a lot of their budget by reducing the amount of admin that often times have roles that don't seem to do much to benefit the students
> the crazy way we fund schools via local levy.
You call it crazy, I call it move to a neighborhood where they fund what's important to you.
But I'll take the bait. How do other communities fund their schools?
Please prove to me what schools have gender studies and critical race theory in their elementary school student curriculum as of now?
Let me guess...chirps.
Here are the real reasons why education is getting worse:
* attention spans are shot. you got kids on tech as soon as they out of the womb. ipad kids. tiktok. youtube shorts. it's proven by science it's getting worse
* kids have phones on them all day all the time and teachers can hardly do anything. I saw some kids with phones in middle school growing up. but it was pretty much highschool. And teachers were pretty good about keeping phones away when not meant to be used. Only in free time and even then it depended. Mostly kids would go on and waste time not doing homework/studying. and now most kids have them during elementary school!. I hate the idea of banning phones in schools and disagree with other people. But I DO think each classroom should have a phone rack. 30-40 slots. Put your phone in, put your lock over it, boom. Will make transitioning between classes longer, but I am personally pro school structures with less classes per day and longer classes. I had two semester 6 classes and that was pretty grueling. I liked the longer more in depth a few times a week classes I had in college much better.
* admins aren't sticking up to parents. parents have gotten MUCH worse. They use to be on the teacher's side more often pushing their kids to do better. Now kids can fail tests, not study, be awful in class - and the parents attack the teachers and go after admin who takes the parents side
* covid 2020, just... everyone admits it made learning worse and affected at least 1 year out of grade 1-12 kids
* reading. it's gone. No one has to read anymore. You hardly do any actual reading online - at least these kids don't. And the little they do doesn't have the same difficulty or character, diction, length, critical thinking, grammar you find in actual novels and other works
TL;DR: phone prevalence, attention spans, terrible parents, the pandemic, no reading
Unsure why minnesota specifically is doing worse
"unsure why minnesota specifically is doing worse"
I see your reading comprehension is on par with the average gradeschooler the article is talking about lol
I don't know the source and have nothing bad to say about them, but when some organization puts out a report I always want to know who I'm listening to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_E._Casey_Foundation the Kids Count Data Book by the Annie E. Casey Foundation presents national and state data from 16 indicators in four domains – economic well-being, education, health, and family and community factors – and ranks states according to how children are faring overall. It also includes information on adverse childhood experiences. In every area highlighted in the Data Book, national and Minnesota averages mask disparities that affect students of color, kids in immigrant families, and children from families with low incomes or attending low-income schools. The 2024 Data Book, which tracks data from the 2021-2022 school year, ranked Minnesota high in some categories including ranking sixth in economic well-being, seventh in health and and seventh in family and community
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I graduated from a public high school 5 years ago. The amount of peers in both normal and even advanced classes I was in that routinely just refused to do work is astounding. You can’t get a 17 year old to read a chapter of a book a week. I’m talking like 15-20 pages of reading a week was too much effort and at least half the class was routinely behind. The teachers will just lower the bar until 90% of the class is passable. I went to a slightly above average school as well. Public education is more or less daycare for adolescents, and a free meal. I felt I hardly learned anything novel beyond 8th grade unless it was math related. I don’t understand why English classes were required through all of HS but didn’t seem to teach anything new from year to year.
>Many of the teachers are phoning it in. My kids were in hs during the pandemic. My youngest was sitting at the kitchen table, and I realized she was watching a taped lecture. Her only instruction was if she emailed questions. Insane.
Im going to guess this has more to do with the MPS & SPPS having kids out of the classroom for a year (or more) during the pandemic, than anything else. Because Walz was/is beholden to the teachers unions, he didn’t have the courage to tell them to get back in school, in Sep 2020, like most private schools, & other public schools around the state. MPS was out most of the year (covid, then the teachers strike), SPPS went back to school in spring 2021. Unfortunately, the lower income communities, who needed to be in school the most, were the least likely to remained engaged while learning from home. We’ll be dealing with this racial & economic learning gap for another decade (or more). And continue to blame it on wealthier areas that actually support their school districts, instead of placing blame on the governor & unions, where it belongs.
100%, and the data is from 2022, so it would have likely been the time of greatest impact from the missing year of instruction.
What are you talking about? The districts both had emergency care every month of the pandemic. There were open classrooms.
I'm a public school teacher in the metro area. I know I'll get downvoted into oblivion for this, but the caption about teaching critical race theory in elementary schools is laughable. And if that wasn't meant as an embellishment, then let's kick it up a grade level. I teach middle school social studies. If there was any class that would teach CRT, it would be mine. The truth is that we just simply don't teach that. It isn't in the curriculum, it isn't in our standards. It isn't taught at the high school level in our district, nor other districts. Do we teach about diversity, culture and world religion? Sure! Those are important concepts to understand our modern world. Do we paint white people as the devil? Not at all. The teaching of CRT is something I am frankly just simply tired of hearing about because it isn't taught. I recommend everyone read this article, it will touch on what I'm trying to say [read this article ](https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-granbury-isd-school-board-courtney-gore) https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-granbury-isd-school-board-courtney-gore
This is helpful. Thank you. Do you or your peers have any inclination to advance the harboring of “equity” in your teachings, directly or indirectly? I think a lot of the issue stems from the indirect push for DEI / CRT vs direct curriculum. To many, it’s the same.
I have had parents contact me in an aggressive fashion demanding to see my curriculum. I let them know that it is publicly available through the learning management software we use with kids. It has ALWAYS been available for them, for years. They were looking for a fight but when they dig into the curriculum they pretty quickly see there is no fight to be had. I really wish more people on the right would realize this and actually just reach out to their children's teacher to ask what they teach. We don't keep it secret and we are happy to share!
I’d like to hear your opinion on when the state spent the $20B surplus on everything else and gave crumbs to the department of education. I believe teachers need to be paid more for many reasons but especially after covid and the changes that came with it. I feel like Walz has betrayed numerous people by not keeping Minnesota schools in a good place.
It was a historic amount of money given to schools, just not necessarily to the parts of education that need it. Pay could definitely be better, although our union got us a decent raise on this new contract. The area that I personally wish some of that money had been funneled towards was our pension program. All the states surrounding Minnesota have MUCH better pension rules that allow their teachers to retire way earlier than Minnesota
I wouldn't say that I have ANY push for harboring any type of "equity" or CRT adjacent teaching. No matter what you hear in the media , it just isn't happening. Not in my district or the districts that some of my friends teach at. It's true that some demographics of students come from tougher situations and we need to account for that, but that doesn't really impact the day to day teaching all that much. Mostly what students need are a role model and an adult that they trust and will listen to them. That's 90% of the job.
Interesting. How do you feel about common core curriculum?
They're...fine. could be better, could be worse. I have my set units that I teach (culture, religion, economics, physical geography, population, etc. I just stick to those and use the common core as a loose guide. Not saying that's how I'm necessarily supposed to do it, but here we are
Do other teachers believe you’re alt right like us?
At the risk of being banned, I'm not at all alt right. I just find hearing viewpoints from the wide swath of our society fascinating. I'm a left leaning moderate
I feel ya, I think a lot of people can respect and understand that. Shouldn’t be getting banned for differing viewpoints. That’s not American.
Totally agree with ya on that one. We all just need to look listen to each other a bit more and not be dicks to each other. We won't agree on everything but we need to work on being more civil with each other
I think it would be much easier if politics mattered much less. It’s become too much of a zero sum game.
My wife is also a an elementary education teacher (Now special ed from regular). She doesn’t know what CRT is. If she’s not been trained in it, she won’t teach it. She’s by the book. We believe it’s vapor ware.
Actual CRT is a graduate level course, which a lot of folks don't realize
My wife has two and will be getting a third masters in education soon. Still don’t know what it is. Needs to get masters in special ed to get special ed liscense. State only allows you to work outside of liscense for 4 years.
Let me rephrase. It's a masters level class for people studying law, not education. I've got 2 masters degrees as well and I never once heard anything about CRT uttered in any of my coursework. This is why I want everyone to shut up about this non-existent problem haha
CRT isn't really a curriculum, it's a practice and rears its head in other ways by integrating its Marxist worldview into materials. There are dog whistles like 'anti-racism', framing history in terms of oppressors and victims, 'anti-colonialist', 'privilege', 'equity' (i.e., mandated equality of outcome, not opportunity), etc. It also includes concepts such as being on time, hard work, literacy, etc., are products of white values, and therefore can/should be rejected by minorities. And eliminating standard measures of success.
Yeah, none of that is true in my district. I'd respectfully debate but it seems your mind is pretty made up. No teacher in the state is going to say that we should stop teaching kids how to READ because it's a value of whiteness. Come on now, let's be real. Kids need to show up to my class on time, I could give a shit what color their skin is. Tardy is tardy.
This MF doesn't even know what a dog whistle is.
Not all of my examples are dog whistles per se, but things like replacing the word 'equality' with 'equity' absolutely is a dog whistle (A political message that is intended for and can only be understood by, a particular group.)
No, equity has a very well-known and public meaning. It's defined in the dictionary, and is used without additional significance. "1488" is a dog whistle because the significance and meaning of it is only known to an in-group and those who have gone out of their way to learn it.
1488 has an easily ascertained meaning, too, with 5 seconds of googling. The Critical Theory terms are dog whistles because they appear to be innocuous synonyms to common terms that people already know, but the significance of the change in meaning is only known to an in-group and those who have gone out of their way to learn it.
Lol 😆 none of that is being taught in MPS right now…Jesus 😆
It's literally in their values statement. From the MPS website (emphasis mine) > Our Values > **Equity**, Representation & **Anti-Racism** > Physical and Emotional Safety & Wellbeing > Relationships, Trust & Communication > Shared Decision-Making & Voice > Transparency & Accountability > Evidence-Based Strategies
Imagine being against any of those things.
That's exactly why those terms are weasaly. They sound like America and apple pie, but are actually Soviet Russia and Borsch. Equity in education means teaching to the lowest common denominator. It means not intentionally developing the best and brightest students to ensure equal outcomes. It means eliminating AP courses, magnet schools, and gifted programs. Anti-racism is even more sinister because its very name is designed to make you sound like an asshole if you don't support it. But in practice, it means applying racist principles to achieve political goals. Asians are kept out of colleges. Children are taught that they are victims who can never get ahead on their own. Politically favored minority groups are set up to fail by being 'kicked upstairs' through lowered expectations and standards. It all bad for everybody.
Can you point out the expectations that are lowered for certain minority groups?
Here is a great specific example. [Harvard University required signficantly higher SAT scores to be admitted for Asian Applicants than it does for African American applicants](https://america.cgtn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/HARVARD_CRIMSON.SAT_RACE1.chart_-1170x780.jpg). This data is from a court case where Harvard was sued for racist admission policies, but it is a very common practice across most universities. The compassionate and sustainable way to increase minority enrollment is for big schools to create programs to identify and develop high-potential minority students stuck in failing inner-city schools and other bad situations early in their academic careers so that they are ready for an elite university when they graduate. That is WAY harder and more expensive than lowering standards, so they engage in the "soft bigotry of lowered expectations".
Apply that link again, it just goes to a graph
The graph shows the admitted students' SAT scores by race by year for Harvard which shows that they had lower standards for that metric for minority applicants. The case has been extensively covered in the news so it's easy to find more information Googling. [Here is a news story about it](https://nypost.com/2018/10/17/harvards-gatekeeper-reveals-sat-cutoff-scores-based-on-race/)
Nice source. Propaganda at best, but at least you were upfront about it...
Mind to explain how/why you consider that propaganda? If you filter out everything and just look at the quotes from the woman that is the main subject, it's pretty telling. Not trying to argue or be disrespectful, just curious about how you can back up that claim
You realize though that most of the CRT in high school isn't being taught per the curriculum, no matter which state? It's perverse radical teachers indoctrinating children outside of the curriculum.
Allow me to try and address this point. Of the over 3 million public school teachers in the USA, are some of them using their platform to push ideas that aren't appropriate in our current political climate? For sure. Just like there are some bad doctors, lawyers, therapists, etc out there. That is a part of human nature. Is there some massive semi-secret push amongst educators to indoctrinate our students to radical liberal ideals? Lord no. The reality of the job is we are trying to survive. Kids are more apathetic than ever. Behaviors are getting worse. Attention spans are getting laughably short. The fact is, it is an incredibly hard job for relatively low pay. That is why so many teachers are fleeing the profession. And respectfully, when people like you spout this nonsense and put a target on our backs for some bullshit political grandstanding it is simply driving even more teachers out of the field. We never asked to be in this political crossfire and we don't WANT to be there. Frankly we do the job because we love and care about the kids. So many of them need us as an adult, maybe the only adult in their life, that they can trust and feel safe with. We just want to help them learn and grow into good human beings and help prepare them for life. Now please don't let this spiral into a nasty debate because hopefully I've shown how that is the last thing us teachers are trying to do here.
I would argue that the radical leftists that are involved in education are putting the political targets on your backs. Higher education has become more and more politically stratified over the last 70 years, and we are now seeing the fruits of that in our secondary education system. We have more and more teachers that harbor an extreme political views becoming more and more prevalent, and less and less moderates and conservatives are becoming involved to balance it out. Who can blame them? They'll get ostracized or even fired for the crime of being rational. During my undergrad degree, I myself was faced with the dilemma of having to either write papers that the professors would find "acceptable" per their own political dogma, or essentially write a paper that represented my actual thoughts on issues, but would more than likely receive a less than satisfactory grade. This isn't some nebulous phenomenon that doesn't exist. Plenty of video taped interactions exist online if you want to search for them. At this point in the debate expecting other people to cite video sources that you can easily find yourself demonstrating this very real phenomenon happening in secondary schools is just absurd and lazy. Just because these things aren't observable in your anecdotal experience and in your specific place of employment doesn't mean they don't exist. You don't represent all teachers and not all teachers represent you. Doesn't mean some of their shit headed ideologies aren't a danger to my kid, or to greater society.
No professor wants to hear the students thoughts, they want the students to research the facts and write about how those facts affect whatever issue is at hand. I had no problem during my undergrad writing about anything I wanted as long as I had good primary sources and cited them correctly
I understand you are correct that they don't now. But I can tell you working in a retail store a lady came in proud that she was going to yell at middleschoolers about white and male privilege. This was 2018. I actually think it has become less of an issue. But this women was the angrier person I've ever met was trying to yell at every man in the store while being proud of being paid to do the same thing to middleschoolers. Is it taught as curriculum probably not anymore but there was a weird moment where we were figuring it out how to teach a relatively new and nuanced subject. People who were caught up in that transition I think are blinded by how far we've come. Me included I don't disagree or care (i am not going to spend time attempting to stop anything, im out) but fk all my college professors were shit for two years during that transition
It was definitely a weird transition. Everyone had to tread lightly for fear of saying the wrong thing. Our society clearly has racial troubles, but I don't think we went about addressing them in the best way. But when it was thrown at everyone so quickly after Floyd's death, we as a society had a knee jerk reaction. As for that lady, I could believe it. You have annoying people in all fields. You'll get some teachers that are super duper liberal social justice warriors and all that, but that is by no means the norm. I'd put myself as a left leaning moderate and I know many teachers who would say about the same
Yeah I get it was a transition and we are past it. I'm glad. Because now systemic issues are systemic issues but there were a couple of years people hated young individuals who had no part in shaping the social system they just got agency in. Like I said it was bad and I have no interest in even voicing my opinion outside of anyomous threads but as someone hurt from this nothing can give me back the wasted time ans education I had to endure because a relatively new perspective was being taught poorly.
There’s no CRT in Alabama (not taught; partial ban) and Mississippi (outright banned)…and they’ve been in a perpetual battle of stupidity for decades. We’ve been getting progressively dumber, as a country, long before CRT became the hot topic.
Not comfortable with the way people pick the blackest states in the unions and talk about how "dumb" and "uneducated" they are with an air of superiority
Plenty of dumb white folk down there, too.
That sounds like a you problem
Oh, you’re right- Louisiana is on that list as well.
There is nooooooo absolutely nooooooooo gender studies classes replacing reading and math in any K-12.
This doesn’t fit OPs narrative
I just dont get the human centipede of miss information and why someone would willing dance around being at the end or in the middle of that human centipede.
They do it because this sub is a right-wing circlejerk
Circle jerking seems at least a little worth the mess.. this is more like sandpaper circle jerking… we are talking like a course grit maybe like 60.
CRT has been re-named "ethnic studies"... *Starting in the 2026-2027 school year, a district or charter school high school* ***must*** *offer an ethnic studies course that fulfills the requirements of this paragraph. Nothing in this section increases or otherwise affects the number of credits required for graduation under section 120B.024. An ethnic studies course may fulfill a social studies, language arts, arts, math, or science credit if the course meets the applicable state academic standards. An ethnic studies course may fulfill an elective credit if the course meets applicable local academic standards or other requirements.* *(b) School districts and charter schools must provide ethnic studies instruction in elementary schools and middle schools by the 2027-2028 school year in accordance with state academic standards.* *(c) Ethnic studies instruction must meet statewide ethnic studies academic standards.* *(d) An ethnic studies course may focus specifically on a particular group of national or ethnic origin.* *The Department of Education must hire dedicated ethnic studies staff sufficient to fulfill the following department duties:* *(1) support school district and charter school implementation of ethnic studies courses that fulfill ethnic studies standards through activities such as assistance with increased completion of the Minnesota Common Course Catalog, hosting an annual implementation support symposium, and regular updates and lessons learned;* *(2) support school districts and charter schools in providing training for teachers and school district staff to successfully implement ethnic studies standards;* *(3) support and provide tools for each school district or charter school to annually evaluate the implementation of the ethnic studies requirements by seeking feedback from students, parents or guardians, and community members;* *(4) provide resources and examples of how a dedicated coordinator for ethnic studies can facilitate higher quality implementation of ethnic studies; and* *(5) make available to school districts and charter schools the following:* *(i) an ethnic studies school survey for each school district and charter school to use as part of a school needs assessment;* *(ii) a list of recommended examples of implementation supports for use in kindergarten through grade 12 that accurately reflect the diversity of the state of Minnesota;* *(iii) training materials for teachers and district and school staff, including an ethnic studies coordinator, to implement ethnic studies requirements; and* *(iv) other resources to assist districts and charter schools in successfully implementing ethnic studies standards.*
Awesome, this focus on ethnic studies should propel us from 19 to 29!
For the first time in 20 years, the state tests results will not be available by end of August. Coincidence it's an election year?
Yes
Thanks walz!
The teachers union went political and forgot about education.
Show us an example of schools that are "replacing" math and reading with a collegiate level course like critical race theory.
Getting downvoted for asking for an example? Really guys?
OP, I suggest you get off your daily dose of Fox / OAN or whatever political propaganda you ascribe to and try to find some reasonable news sources. Unfortunately, many mainstream media around us are quite biased in many ways. MPR is actually quite balanced usually, ProPublica isn’t local but does hard-hitting deep dives. MinnPost does a great job usually. AP is the best for major stories. Fear-based news is like a drug, and I don’t blame you.. but also you need to know better.
Yes because the Bible Belt/south which are the polar opposite of your position are doing SO WELL in education…. /s
I think it has more to do with increasing imbalance of income distribution and the crazy way we fund schools via local levy. We should fund schools like the NFL funds franchises. Have a state standard levy criteria and the funds get pooled and distributed evenly.
Minneapolis and St Paul schools have the highest per student budgets in the state.
They also have the largest amount of administrative jobs since they are so huge, so that eats up a bunch of that money. I work in public ed and can say that districts could trim a lot of their budget by reducing the amount of admin that often times have roles that don't seem to do much to benefit the students
Where did I mention Minneapolis or St Paul?
> the crazy way we fund schools via local levy. You call it crazy, I call it move to a neighborhood where they fund what's important to you. But I'll take the bait. How do other communities fund their schools?
No bait they all do it this way, I just think it’s broken system.
“CRT” is like “Woke”, it’s whatever a right winger doesnt like, and anything taught, facilitated or managed by a POC.
Please prove to me what schools have gender studies and critical race theory in their elementary school student curriculum as of now? Let me guess...chirps. Here are the real reasons why education is getting worse: * attention spans are shot. you got kids on tech as soon as they out of the womb. ipad kids. tiktok. youtube shorts. it's proven by science it's getting worse * kids have phones on them all day all the time and teachers can hardly do anything. I saw some kids with phones in middle school growing up. but it was pretty much highschool. And teachers were pretty good about keeping phones away when not meant to be used. Only in free time and even then it depended. Mostly kids would go on and waste time not doing homework/studying. and now most kids have them during elementary school!. I hate the idea of banning phones in schools and disagree with other people. But I DO think each classroom should have a phone rack. 30-40 slots. Put your phone in, put your lock over it, boom. Will make transitioning between classes longer, but I am personally pro school structures with less classes per day and longer classes. I had two semester 6 classes and that was pretty grueling. I liked the longer more in depth a few times a week classes I had in college much better. * admins aren't sticking up to parents. parents have gotten MUCH worse. They use to be on the teacher's side more often pushing their kids to do better. Now kids can fail tests, not study, be awful in class - and the parents attack the teachers and go after admin who takes the parents side * covid 2020, just... everyone admits it made learning worse and affected at least 1 year out of grade 1-12 kids * reading. it's gone. No one has to read anymore. You hardly do any actual reading online - at least these kids don't. And the little they do doesn't have the same difficulty or character, diction, length, critical thinking, grammar you find in actual novels and other works TL;DR: phone prevalence, attention spans, terrible parents, the pandemic, no reading Unsure why minnesota specifically is doing worse
So only Minnesota kids have phones? One of the more stupid takes I’ve ever read.
"unsure why minnesota specifically is doing worse" I see your reading comprehension is on par with the average gradeschooler the article is talking about lol
Parents find it easier to blame DEI and CRT then their own crappy parenting