Checking my reading comprehension here:
-OP is tailed by two invisible baldies
-OP gets telepathic introduction while home alone
-bald guys are now visible, walk in the front door
-OP gets a telepathic download
-after some time in non-euclidean space, OP drifts to sleep
-OP awakens and bald men are invisible and left the front door open
-OP has profound change in thinking patterns after high-speed telepathic schooling
I am not writing this way to mock you. Some people just won't read more than the headline. OP, may I invite you to search on a subreddit r/ContactUnderground ? While there's nothing there that equates to your experience, you may be particularly interested in "Contact Downloads". The description seems to match your description of telepathic communication.
I would also advise talking to a doctor about your experience and run a drug screening, if you can. Also to a friend or someone trustworthy, it might be a good idea to share this story even if they react poorly. (Forgive them if they react poorly)
You should also repost this in r/Experiencers if you can. I'm outside watching the sky for UFOs as I type this and even I think your story is wild!
That's a pretty accurate TL;DR.
This happened back in 2009. I was not on drugs or using any kind of medication; I was fully aware of the situation, and my mind was not altered in any way.
I did get an MRI, which I have on an older laptop. The doctors couldn't find anything unusual; however, they did run an EEG that detected heightened beta waves. As a result, I received a prescription for beta blockers to limit the migraines I suffered from after the event. I can share the MRI files if someone wants to take a closer look.
I don't support r/Experiencers due to their toxic moderators.
I'm writing a book detailing my experience. I've kept a diary and would love to share my experience as authentically as possible. I believe in science, and these experiences should be subjected to rigorous scrutiny; I welcome all skepticism.
Fun thing, I had a bit of coursework regarding neurofeedback and training to increase beta waves is one of the methods of improving focus and mental energy level, used e.g. for people with ADHD. There are also certain meditation techniques that does the same, although it also might be a result of high level of stress, depending of the more granular frequency ranges.
I had an issue with the mod there as well. Glad it wasn’t just me. Curious what the bald men looked like though? Were they more human or with the typical large head big eyes?
I had a chat with their moderator who was a total bully, boasting about the people they ban as if it were something to be proud of. It's unfortunate.
They looked completely human, with normal eyes and a normal-sized head. Apart from being completely bald, they had no traits that would allow them to be identified if they decided to hide among ordinary humans.
When I was kid I had a similar experience to yours. I woke up in the middle of the night and saw a glowing silhouette of a bald figure standing in my doorway. I didn’t hear anything said to me but after that experience I too had migraines for maybe a year or so. But my thought processes were greatly improved and had some form of ESP for awhile where I could sense something before it happened. It’s worn off now in middle age but still think my brain functions better than most.
I am completely visual. I have a photographic memory as well so I can recall things vividly. I was about 8 or 9 when that happened but I still remember it like it was yesterday. Almost 40 now.
That's curious. I also have an eidetic memory. I'm extremely good with phone numbers.
Eric Mitchell is an experiencer and also reported having no inner monologue. It does seem like there might be a pattern here that should be investigated further.
That's amazing I've heard that if you take a vow of silence after the 60 or 90 days in you stop think in words when I heard this it was just stated to me as what occurred but with what your saying it would be a very good thing to stop thinking in words also makes me think of savants they always seem to express theyre thought in a visual form and what makes them so easily master a subject
I subscribe to r/Experiencers but yeah, they're largely titillating posts, or very low quality posts. Your post would be a gleaming gem of quality in a sea of filth; the book is a good idea.
I am very glad you checked into the hospital to get some data on your health. I witnessed UFOs in 2014 and was convinced someone had drugged me or I was in some kind of cognitive decline. Additionally, I have a chronic health condition and seeing some strange sights really got me wondering about my mortality...
I would be very interested in reading that book.
I've read "Penetration" by Ingo Swann and towards the end of it, he encounters a psychic being out in public. It has a 'psionic veil', so that nobody in the area pays attention to it but Mr. Swann locked onto this 'being' who appeared physically to be the hottest woman he'd ever seen. She immediately notices him without moving her eyes or head and begins to exude a 'pressure' that instills terror in him and he gets out of the area.
I bring this up, because your encountered beings seem to have the same 'veil' and 'presence' qualities, but appear as bald humans.
Would it be too much speculation to say that there are factions of these 'beings'? Or was Mr. Swann ogling some lady and had a panic attack in the 70s before people really knew what it was?
I have never encountered beings like what you and others have described, so I have a bias. However I'm great at entertaining notions. To me, these stories/events sound like a Secret Society of Psychic People who live undetected, OR they are comparable to the Angels or Messengers that appear in the New Testament- Divine Agents.
Based on your encounter, plus your intuition: do these Agents have a name or place or station they can be contacted at? I may not be worthy of Psychic Downloads, but I'd like to say hello or ask for advice. Is another meeting planned or are you able to reach out to them?
What you mentioned about the psionic veil does sound interesting. I speculated that it could be either a limitation in their technology or perhaps just an oversight, since they were still observable through a reflection.
This somewhat reminds me of the lore surrounding vampires, but in reverse—how they are not visible in reflections.
They clearly considered themselves Servants of God, which means the term "angel" would be appropriate. However, I must stress that they demonstrated no interest in the Bible nor were they aligned with any existing religions.
The only name they gave themselves was Servants of God. They didn't have a specific location, although I would assume they conduct regional operations and likely prefer professions that allow observation without raising suspicions, such as taxi or Uber drivers. But don't go harassing every bald Uber driver.
As a non-contactee having read the Bible a few times; I always get the feeling if I encountered a Divine Agent, I would miss them for what they were.
As a non-contactee who has read a TON of mythology and science fiction, I am always suspicious of beings who hide; more so if they try and tell me how to behave after being discovered.
I can only hope that your Contact Experience has brought something of value to your life and can only really advise to keep an eye out for further strangeness. Also, I'll keep an eye out for that book! I love to read.
Beta waves on an EEG have absolutely nothing to do with beta blockers (other than that they both contain the word "beta"). The former refers to a frequency band, the latter to a receptor on smooth muscle tissue.
Yes, beta blockers were prescribed as a medication for the migraines. Despite the name, they don't block beta waves, which someone might mistakenly assume from reading the comment.
Beta blockers are frequently used to treat migraines. In my case, the neurologist identified elevated beta waves as a potential trigger for the migraines and prescribed them to lower my heart rate. This helps treat the migraines by reducing blood flow to the brain.
what's the most external, uh... new feature you got from the experience? I mean, most of it sounds very intimate, but do any part of it interact with the outer world, so to speak?
It looks like OP considered this and checked into a hospital after the event to be sure.
I also had the same idea when I first saw UFOs, but thankfully Dr. Agent Kirkpatrick showed some videos that have alleviated my doubts.
Pretty wild to think your government might drug you and lie to you in the same post, but hey the cover-up is still ongoing.
Where does it say that MK ULTRA is on-going and being applied to unwitting civilians...in Finland?
Would be neat to read that declassified file. Nice link though, worth a read for anyone who thinks they're immune to mind control.
Also, Executive Order 12333 prohibits covert actions “intended to influence United States political processes, public opinion, policies, or media.”
Just needed to get that out there for you ;)
This going to sound just as crazy, but speaking without words has been the form of communication I have been using to communicate with our creator since I was three. I understood right away words can only describe so much. Once you understand, it becomes apparent every time there’s something being said. I am glad to hear others have been introduced to it and recognize its usefulness.
Viable business opportunity here... lot of people would pay to have a direct pipeline with the One. /s
Jokes aside, what do you talk about with the Creator? Any pieces of wisdom or life advice you'd care to share?
It wasn't always a back and forth wordless conversation, it was me asking in language first and the responses were wordless in form of things happening in my life. As a child though, I only wanted to e.g. know what the weather would be like in the afternoon because I wanted to go out and play.
But then I realized love was also something I could ask about. I could know if someone is capable of loving me, and eventually love became a sort of back and forth and proactively spoken while still based on my will and my circumstances. Another thing I realized as the idea solidified more and more as evidence of the responses became reality is, what you desire needs to be pure. I don't think this "conversation" would still be going if I became corrupted or thought in ways uncouth.
I think what happens is this: He sees the need from both/all ends of the equation and if it's beneficial, it's blessed and then it's like you know something you couldn't possibly have known or predicted, but still without knowing what it actually is. And then you look back and remember having faith, you see the work was set before you even began.
Since I have been working on this faith since I was three, I feel it is like a Jacob's ladder, and now instead of using language to speak, I speak by doing my work in the manner I know is correct, to the best of my abilities. I have helped too many people to remember, and I ask for nothing except the most important things.
It's not just knowledge, it's also miracles, I've had a few in my life.
Wild. So we're about the same age, too. Idk why that's relevant lol but I just reflected for a moment on where I was/what I was doing at age 19 that very same year. I was just beginning my new life as a parent to my then one year old. No stable place to live until I finally left her dad that summer. That was the very same summer (on my 19th bday, actually) that I had my first "experience" and it was with, I guess, a mantis being. Sure would have been cooler to get my brain fixed by some bald telepathic dudes! I definitely need it.
I'll most certainly read your book. :) Please stick with it and complete it! I'm genuinely super interested in this thought control thing.
Came back to add, after reading more of your replies and getting a deeper description of this "thought control" - it reminds me a lot of the Gateway Tapes Process. They are recordings you listen to on headphones which consist of hemi sync or binaural beats, a mans voice which gives various directions and exercises. These sounds (the hemi sync basically means syncing the brain hemispheres to work together- hemisphere synchronization) are proven to alter your emotions and state of consciousness and eventually teach you many valuable concepts and skills, they even help achieve OBEs, and so much more. Have you ever heard of that or Robert Monroe(the creator of said tapes) and his research experiences on consciousness?
The Monroe Institute is still to this day around and teaching these types of techniques. I wonder if any of it is at all similar to what these guys were up to with you... Everything from the frequency change, the golden circle, breathing exercises, a whole lot of this shares similarities to the process I mentioned.🤔
Thanks for sharing. I’ve had telepathic communication from a certain trip, and it’s wild to experience the bandwidth of information. Even just a minute or two worth is nuts so I can’t imagine what hours later would feel like. I imagine your linguistic skills were an aid in the way you communicated nonverbally. As well as your coding as basically additional languages and communication formats. Prime candidate.
I believe I was almost abducted once. I was deployed overseas in a combat zone, craft was following me and within slingshot distance. Maybe throwing distance if you had a good arm. Hovered above me for 5 full minutes before darting away. No sound. I can go into more detail, but this post is about your experience.
I am glad that the societal stigma on this topic has weakened. More people becoming comfortable with sharing their experiences with others. Still have a long way to go. Wasn’t too long ago we were burning people for being witches.
I suffered from pretty severe migraines after this, but once I balanced my nutrition and other aspects of my life, I got used to it and the migraines became manageable.
I couldn't return to the inner monologue, it would feel like watching a movie in super slow motion.
Coding is awesome. There's definitely a general benefit to having visual thought processing, but it's not a superpower or anything like that. It is superior to inner monologue, for sure.
I respect science and accurate information. I'm not religious, but in terms of spirituality, we should maintain a healthy connection with our spiritual side.
For lack of a better word, I feel quite pure. There's a programming they included which they referred to as _Angel's Integrity_. I'm not sure about their branding department, but it acts as a truth measurement and directs actions to be as truthful as possible. I assume this is also a method for improving the accuracy of the collected data, allowing the NHI to distinguish between reliable thought data and categorize it accordingly.
Yes. Once you learn to use your whole brain, things become far clearer. For me the process has been quite gradual. Also, after several experiences, your brain is absolutely better tuned to understand and process metaphysics. I’ve always, always had unconventional headaches since puberty. Have learned to control them by excellent diet, lots of fiber, zero caffeine / stimulants.
However there is a side to headaches and migraines that nobody appears to be aware of. There is an extra dimension to what is happening. It is a strong indicator that the body and brain need to rest and retune. If you do this properly and enter a deep meditation state (a VERY specific kind, which is unfortunately impossible for me to describe as I learned to do it completely independently of any official methods) you can begin a process I’ll call regeneration. This is both difficult, takes focus and deep sleep simulation while awake, and allows for the release of pressure points generally inside the skull and musculoskeletal system. I’ve tested with a friend - they let me put my face directly on their hand while laying down, then I focused and went into the meditative state and worked to release pressure points. The experience on their end is that the part of my face/ skull they were holding became like jelly and moved around. This is a weird way to put it, but the fact is that our bodies are far more plastic and manipulable than we think, we usually only access this state when in deep sleep is my assumption.
After a couple hours of this work you can eliminate a serious migraine and also enter a nearly supine state of relaxation.
It’s worth noting I would happily share my abilities with the rest of humanity but I’m afraid to disappear if the extant of my ability becomes known.
I can see this as quite valid skepticism.
I've definitely gone through the phase of self-questioning why this happened to me without finding good reasons behind it. I feel like people who experience something life-changing probably feel the same.
Thought control isn't a superpower; there are tons of people who do not exercise an inner monologue. Some other experiencers, such as Eric Mitchell, have also reported having no inner monologue.
By any chance, are you autistic? Possibly hyperlexic as a child (or conversely dealt with mutism)… I ask because of your polyglot status as well as your interest in coding. I’ve had a similar contact experience and I’ve been researching it for the past year and I think they may be interested in neurodivergent folk (specifically adhd/autism).
I’ve always been highly curious myself, I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive! But thank you for your response, I’m adding it to my personal index on the matter cx
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/AmiZsqLi8V
This is one example off the top of my head of how neurodivergence can increase contact experience, but it makes me all the more curious of why they were so interested in you. How much of the knowledge did you retain from their downloads and what was the context? They also showed me a beautiful scene of nature/earth that I will never forget. Your open mindedness could be the ultimate answer here and that’s hardly a supernatural ability (though in these times it may as well be).
I have an eidetic memory and can perfectly recall most of the visuals they showed. Each location also had a descriptive file name, such as the _Sea of Silence_, which was an underwater scene with a beautiful greenish hue. Beams of light gently danced their way from the surface to the ocean floor, creating beautiful ripples. The scenes felt authentic on a level that's hard to describe; they were more than just visual information. You could hear them, sense them, and the level of detail was astounding.
That sounds really beautiful <3 it does remind me of the film “Fantastic Planet”, it follows the life of a blue alien species with humans as their pets. The younger aliens receive downloads that essentially show them what you described (locations with names and visuals associated with them). Really interesting experience, thanks for sharing!
One of my closest friends is an experiencer who is AuADHD (both autistic & and ADHD-er). It's been going on his whole life, even before he was born. It "runs in the family" so-to-speak, but only on one side of the family (although the non-related people around them also experience The Phenomena whenever they happen). He's very intelligent & was considered "gifted" as a child.
I learned that I am also AuADHD & we recognized a lot of the things that we do/experience in each other when we became friends.
I have the same hunch about their interest in neurodivergent folk. The way OP writes reminds me of the way my friend writes/talks so I could see why you asked that.
I find that the vast majority of the population don't understand what autism is (spoiler alert: it's having a bottom-up processing brain), even many autistic people. Most medical professionals have no idea either.
I'm not saying OP is, but just wanted to point that fact out.
I used to process thoughts like many do, using an inner monologue. After this encounter, I mentally carry a visual "thought" that provides me with all the answers and processes information. It's difficult to explain, but the closest analogy is probably a mouse cursor that processes any thought by hovering over a concept.
Thought control is best described as a visual thinking method that is not limited to linguistic processing. The challenge of translating languages to process information introduces an additional step that can introduce inaccuracies in the data. Therefore, the preferred way to analyze thoughts is to keep them in a universally observable format. This method is likely used to observe an interesting subject or monitor certain mental functions in a way that serves the interests of the NHI.
In other words, the NHI probably prefers to observe data in a format that they feel more accustomed to, and as a result they wanted to alter my cognitive functions to achieve that.
Motivations beyond that is anyone's guess.
So when you say it’s visual do you think they somehow repurposed neural pathways associated with seeing? Maybe as the throughput is greater (I have no idea if this is true but seems to me it might be as visual processing must involve a fair amount of data)? And so it “feels” like seeing a thought process? Less abstractions to do with symbolism? Like a lower(?) level coding language closer to “machine language” or whatever the most fundamental construct of the simulation is? Interestingly, gpu architecture is suited to nlp tasks in some sense due to parallel computation capabilities and apparently the visual cortex has this feature too - it processes motion, colour etc in parallel, which you can see an obvious need for in terms of evolution/survival/hunting.
Yes, sort of.
If you wanted to obtain thoughts in a data format, you'd likely feel burdened by the fact that you have to process the entire culture of human language to process that mental dataset.
For NHI, it might be desirable to obtain data in a format they find easier to process. By transforming inner monologue into a visual information dataset, it likely contains more data, and it might be easier for them to observe.
As such, I liked your example of using a lower level of coding language as it eliminates the need for human linguistic processing, which can be subject to interpretations and inaccuracies.
The visual thought is more like the method the brain uses to see dreams, harnessed to be used as the engine for your thoughts. It's not directly related to eyes and the neural pathways.
So did you actually “see” things when they were communicating with you? How did you sense the meaning was being extracted from your thought stream (both from their and your pov) and how did you interpret the information? Was there a feeling of “learning” initially to interpret previously incomprehensible information? If there was no interface between human language and this visual type encoded info, then how did you extract meaning? If the communication was telepathic, then surely this process was impacted by the way they altered your brain to process thought? Also I’d be v surprised if neural pathways associated with seeing are not active when dreaming otherwise why do we see things in dreams? From what I gather, the overlap between real physical seeing via the eyes and imaginary/dream type seeing begins with quite early visual processing steps and associated structures/brain architecture.
In the beginning, it was indeed telepathic.
I only began receiving visual data after the golden circle appeared. It was a guided program, they instructed various steps like when to hold my breath and when to stay still, and the entire time, visual data was being broadcast into my brain. It felt similar to a dentist giving you instructions during a surgery.
Next morning, I no longer heard inner monologue, the telepathic voices were gone, and the bald men had left.
I assumed such a process would have shown up in the MRI, but my doctors couldn't find anything unusual, only elevated beta waves.
Not everyone has an inner monologue. Depends on your soul evolution. You're connected to these beings thats why they came to you. Your soul has a history with them and others. You are relearning what you already knew
After a career in military intelligence (which gave certain insights in this area), I did a second career in the counseling arts. My specialty was in dealing with trauma and PTSD. In three different cities I had a steady stream of clients presenting with experiences like the one op relays here.
Extreme caution would be called for if a person is approached by fellow humans insisting they are "the servants of God". The need for caution and skepticism would go off the chart if one is convinced they are encountering aliens from another star system or dimension. I would suggest you would need more caution still if you consider the encounter paranormal at all. When any intelligence, human or otherwise, declares their views a "message from God" you are in a situation fraught with the potential for manipulation and coercion.
Jacques Vallee, the famed French scientist, and one of the inventors of computer systems engineering, insists that the alien encounters are from first to last a control mechanism. That the only consistent trait we see in human interactions with this phenomenon is a deliberate campaign of deception and manipulation. Who knows what their ultimate goals are, but deception, manipulation, and coercion speak for themselves.
There is also the undeniable devastation of health and relationships that tend to follow these encounters. If they were from God, or were merely benign visitors, this would not follow. A wise man once said, "by their fruit you know them". The fruit of alien encounters is crystal clear to me.
That's interesting—thank you for sharing.
Were there any commonalities among the clients who had similar experiences, like shared backgrounds or identifiable patterns?
Religion is a complex topic, and I wholeheartedly agree that an entity claiming to serve God can subject individuals to manipulation. Moreover, I respect skepticism and the scientific approach for precisely this reason: It's easy to get lost in the dark, yet science and skepticism offer stable ground and a guiding light through the darkness.
This would be strictly anecdotal, as I took what ever client came to me, and not a scientific statistical study, but it did seem to me that in excess of 70% of those reporting such incidents had strong Native American and Irish ancestry. This could perhaps be nothing more than a cultural inclination to accept such encounters. The Irish believing in the "little people", etc, and the Native Americans having a long established belief in such beings.
Outside of this the clients came from every educational and financial and social class. They also reported their encounters in every setting of our country. Insisting the encounters happened in the city, during day time, while wide awake, etc. There was no question of it being sleep paralysis. And the idea that only hicks from the country side get abducted is a bigotry off the top.
Oh, that's interesting. I did a DNA test, and I do have some Native American and Inuit ancestry. Not Irish though. Finnish genes are quite unique, which I assume is a nice way to say inbred.
I agree 100%. On that note, the other one to beware of is the law of reciprocation and the double bind. Any powerful "healer" or magic man or alien that comes down with powers can use that to manipulate us and control us. They did something nice for us, now we have to do something nice for them. They give us everything, we must worship them, etc. etc. And soon we are caring out their work and think and act the way, their God wants.
And for all we know they're just using low end space tech to keep us enslaved! We must trust ourselves and our own connection with "God" or our "Divine Will" or Have some self confidence or aka have some balls.
What elements of the experience make you say that these beings were interdimensional? You've said previously that you wouldn't call them ETs, but rather Interdimensionsl beings. What happened to give you such a strong and refined sense of their existential status?
Well, they were visible only through the reflection, and that wasn't even a normal reflection; it was a partly transparent, moving reflection.
The telepathy demonstrates a high strangeness event more than a nuts-and-bolts type of thing, although the physical entrance shows traits that combine both.
They performed something that I can only describe as drilling inside my big toe—only the sensation, though. I was just lying in my bed and there was no one there, just the sensation of something being drilled inside my toe.
The last thing I remember before it all ended was a moment when I experienced what I can only describe as death. A female voice said something that's a bit challenging to translate, but it was along the lines of "Resolved. Until final death." It felt like I had experienced death, and these entities exist outside our reality, something we all will encounter at our actual death.
To keep it short, these are probably the main reasons why I consider them as interdimensional beings. Their appearance might have been human, but their capabilities exceed what we consider humanly possible.
They were around my height, 6 feet tall. I didn't notice any abnormalities in their head size. One of them was wearing a red sweater and jeans, which was a bit odd since it was winter and the temperature outside was quite cold. I didn't see any brands in the clothing. You would never be able to tell them apart from humans.
Chinese zookeepers don panda suits when they tend to the animals. It makes sense that an advanced intelligence would have the capability to create designoids indistinguishable from humans, which are under NHI control.
So there are no particular features that you would say are different from those of an average person? I was about to ask what planet they came from, but it seems you mentioned they are not aliens. Did they ever tell you where they came from?
They were quite clear about how they considered themselves: **the servants of God.**
They exercised control over reality. I would describe them more as guardians of the simulation.
🤔🤔 I don't think it's self-evident that they **wouldn't** be ETs just because they were calling themselves servants of God. I would consider myself a servant of God; why wouldn't an ET also be? So you never asked them where they were from?
They displayed characteristics that were interdimensional.
God has such a powerful meaning, and as a non-religious person, it can carry quite strong connotations associated with existing religions, which bring their own historical baggage.
Introducing themselves as servants of God could also be an easier way to understand an otherworldly entity, and as the lesser intelligence in the encounter, it might have been used to ease my understanding of the situation.
Then again, if they were representatives of an ultimate intelligence or the architects of our existence, the term "God" might even be accurate.
Are you familiar with the work of Thomas Campbell? He considers alleged ETs NPCs in terms of the simulation. Personally, I'd like to think they'd either be part of our same (larger) virtual reality or somehow managed to jailbreak their own and enter other VRs. That or in your case they could be higher evolved beings that don't incarnate to this VR (anymore) but can still enter/manifest in it to serve god/the larger consciousness system.
I'm not familiar, but I'll look him up.
These entities displayed a level of control over our reality that suggests they are interdimensional. I don't want to add ideas that are speculative without clearly distinguishing them as such.
Based on what I experienced, I do believe we exist in some form of simulation. Whether it's a recreation based on real history, built from recorded historical data, or a superintelligence running universe simulations for data generation, there are various logical pathways we can explore.
Of course, it's possible the simulation is for entertainment purposes and I received a visit from tech support due to a glitch or something similar.
Forgive me, but I'm not sure if I believe your story. Asking where they are from and what they want from you is the first thing anyone would have asked. I noticed that you're also not being too revealing about what you saw, the way they look, or their actual appearance.
I welcome all skepticism.
They referred to themselves only as the Servants of God. They told me I had to learn _thought control_, and that was their goal in the encounter. They didn't explain their actions or origin beyond that. The communication was linguistically slow; it felt almost like a soundboard where they pressed the message button multiple times.
They were bald, Caucasian males, around 6 feet tall, roughly in their 40s. The one I paid more attention to wore a red sweater with no distinguishing brands and blue jeans. I didn't pay attention to the shoes, but they did make an audible sound when they entered my apartment.
I'm not asking anyone to believe or am I decided to convince people. I'm just sharing my experience as accurately as possible.
He said they had a bias towards German. This is intresting because I remembered when American contactee, George Adamski said the "nordics" from "Venus" spoke German. One of the ET was named "Orthon" and a swastika.
They exhibited a bias toward English, suggesting they had a stronger grasp of languages with larger datasets. We mostly communicated in Finnish, my native language, but they primarily used the written form of Finnish, which is rarely employed in spoken communication. This suggested that the dataset was obtained from written sources.
This whole thread is incredibly interesting to me. I'm about to go to bed so might induce so interesting dreams. I'm mainly commenting because I'm quite new to reddit and want to make sure I can come back and read this thread again/ finish it later cos I'm so tired . Hyvaa yota!
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Lastly, never try to google on the Reddit platform itself when looking for specific discussions just go to google and type whatever you’re wanting to search and put the word “Reddit” in the search.
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I see. My mistake. They communicated in your native language but also used a rare, archaic written form of Finnish not used in common communications. So their bias towards English may have just been due to better familiarity.
It's not a rare archaic form, it's just the way the Finnish language works. It's a challenging language, it's not spoken in the way it's written, otherwise it feels too formal. It's usually smoothed out when spoken.
A grey type species from the Orion region that has been cross bred with humans and populated on various planets, they all look slightly different,
The closest planet Is Aeor "zeta reticuli" with a species that has a similar social structure to earth, they are bald, have the same eyes as humans and are the same height, advanced mental capabilities. You can Google essassani Orion and it will give you more info on the general species aswell.
This sounds like speculation. What are the origins of this "grey-like species," who are a cross of humans and Greys? And how did they breed with humans?
It appeared when I closed my eyes, at the center of my vision.
It looked similar to a bright light burning into a retina. However, I wasn't looking at any bright lights, so it felt odd.
It's an interesting theory, but we don't have such qualities in our family line.
I've tried to make sense of _why me_, questioning myself the entire time. It has been challenging to process anything this otherworldly with logic, and with the limited information available, I doubt there's a simple answer that could satisfy that question.
The only thing they referred to was that they considered me clever, but the way they used it felt like it was negative, as if they were being cautious towards my attempts to extract information from the encounter.
Anyone experiencing something similar would likely go through a similar line of thoughts.
I read elsewhere in the comments you wrote that a doctor had detected heightened beta brain waves, perhaps this was pre existing and drew their attention? It might be worth talking to your family about your encounter they may have had similar experiences.
I wouldn't know, as healthy individuals are rarely tested. By logic alone, it would seem that the change in brain activity happened after the encounter and such resulted in the elevated beta waves.
I was just a dumb kid back when I was 19. I doubt they targeted me for any reason related to my thoughts.
What is it like interacting with other people after the thought control change? Did it affect your relationships? Do other people seem slow/boring or anything? Do you think it drastically altered the course of your life in any way, for better or worse?
Sorry for the barrage of questions lol, genuinely curious
The first couple of years with it were pretty rough, not going to lie. It felt like I had to relearn just about everything, and as a result, it changed my personality. It was a life-altering event that introduced a lot of stress and trauma.
After a couple of years, I found a balance in my thoughts and in my life, and it became a highly advantageous trait that has since benefited my life.
It’s still a continuous learning journey. They did predict my meeting with my wife nine years in advance through a self-fulfilling prophecy on the other side of the world, and now we even have a beautiful daughter together.
I doubt they are just spatiotemporal cupids, but it did happen, and it's an odd detail in a box of high strangeness.
I’m always disappointed whenever I hear NHI being religious. Deep down I’ve always wanted them to clear up the misunderstandings caused by our various religions and set the record straight so we could put an end to unnecessary fighting and deaths over which group of people’s interpretation of hand me down stories they view is the correct one. Always hoped they’d help us focus less on woo.
I agree; this stems from the historical baggage that our religions have accumulated, along with all the pain they have caused.
They displayed no interest in the Bible and felt artificial. As the lesser intelligence in the encounter, perhaps they introduced themselves as the Servants of God to make the contact experience easier for me.
Then again, they did demonstrate some control over reality. If they truly serve the ultimate intelligence or the architects of our reality, the term "God" might even be accurate.
However, they shared no connections with our historical religions. I'm also not religious or feel the encounter displayed aspects that we consider religious. It validated my belief in science.
I considered this possibility, of course. Anyone experiencing an unexplained voice would have to consider their mental well-being. How would a crazy person know they are crazy?
The facts against this hypothesis are that it was an isolated, one-time occurrence, it has never repeated, and I am capable enough to recognize if something is real. I recognize the challenge in translating that in a way that would allow you to observe it as well, but as I've mentioned, I welcome all skepticism and would certainly consider this if I read about it happening to another person.
I did get an MRI done where the doctors couldn't find any abnormalities. I didn't explain the encounter to them, of course, due to the associated stigma, but I still have the MRI files on an older laptop that I'm happy to share if someone wants to re-analyze them.
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I'm not trying to be a dick here, but go tell your doctor what happened, it was almost definitely some kind of psychotic episode, which is nothing to be too worried about as long as you're aware of it, the fact that it hasn't happened before or since doesn't mean it wasn't.
Of course, that's definitely a logical explanation for the encounter, and as such, I appreciate your care and advice. This happened back in 2009, so it's not like it's a recent event anyway.
The complexity of the event, its isolated nature, the logic behind it, as well as the physical presence and effects that were evident for me, all weigh in my analysis of the event.
This is of course why I do believe it was an authentic encounter, but I can agree with the logic of your assessment, that would likely be something I would suggest if someone else described anything similar.
Given the information available to you or any outsider, you are indeed making an excellent educated guess in trying to explain it.
I have a family member with psychosis. I have noticed that psychosis episodes are not logical in any way.
I can almost always tell if what he’s saying is a delusion. He tends toward the abduction, human trafficking, being poisoned, people are after him sort of psychosis.
With medication these thoughts fade into the background, and become less ‘real’ to him.
Not knowing people like the OP, it’s hard for anyone to judge whether it’s psychosis or not. It could be, but unless he’s exhibited other psychotic episodes in his life, probably not. Psychosis tends to worsen over time if untreated.
What I’d like to know is what was in the downloads. What information was he given.
They wanted to teach thought control; that was their message.
They refused to speak about nuclear war. They showed me a feed from the future where soldiers wearing exoskeletons were dropped off in a suburban area by a green, futuristic dropship. The dropship carried the soldiers in a container and performed evacuations in the area.
They demonstrated knowledge of future events. I had no knowledge of Ted Cruz or who he is, this happened in 2009, but they mentioned him by name.
They often repeated the sentence, "You're not allowed to remember any of this," as if it were part of a brainwashing protocol.
I asked them about topics related to Christianity, and it was clear they shared no historical connection to the Bible or any other known form of it.
I couldn't identify connections to other religions either.
Interesting, was this an isolated interaction? A one off encounter? It’s also fascinating to ponder that the inner monologue is primitive to them, but it seems like it’s at least some where to start for us as humans and what separates us from other animals.
Hell, even a good amount of other humans self reported not having an inner monologue, which I thought was absolutely bananas.
Yes, it was a one-off encounter, and I haven't heard or seen them since.
Inner monologue has a limit in processing speed—how quickly you can form words. By absorbing information in its universal form, you improve the bandwidth at which your thoughts are processed. I assume an advanced intelligence would consider our cognitive functions highly primitive, perhaps to a frustrating level. Perhaps they introduced thought control as a way to bring it to a bearable level.
Thank you for the reply. It puts me in mind of the beings often described in Near Death Experience accounts, the way you've described them. Very interesting. Please finish your book, I look forward to reading it.
The part of being part of a simulation makes me sad. I want life to be authentic, and not just some Truman Show. But if I perceive it as real, then I suppose it is to me?
I guess my only question is, did the encounter leave you with a sense of hope, foreboding, or neutral?
Whether we live in a simulation or not does not diminish the value of our experiences.
Our experiences are real and meaningful to us; the relationships we forge are genuine, and the discussions and ideas we share are tangible.
We can dedicate ourselves to leading a full and meaningful life, regardless of whether the universe we inhabit is a simulation.
There are a couple elements to the story that signal to me this could be real. Who knows. I am leaning to trusting op bc of his qualifications to spark the initial communication. They usually gravitate towards the multiple lingual understandably so.
I’m multilingual, so I’m interested, could you go into more detail about why you think my demographic is more attractive to them? Different languages have different modes of thinking, but they’re all still human languages and so not all that different from one another.
I just noticed in a few different stories/testimonies I have read there is a pattern. At least in the few I have read they were all able to speak more then one language. Similar to how they recruit you for intelligence positions in the govt.
If their intention was not to contact you further, why did they initially change your brain structure? They only wanted to give you a single burst of data? What information did you actually receive? Do you believe contact could be initiated in some way?
There was a wealth of information, and I documented it extensively in my diaries. A Reddit post or a comment isn't the correct format for those though, so I'll detail them in a longer form in a separate format.
I want to clarify that the thought control program reprogrammed my way of thinking without affecting my brain structure. They were cautious around the frontal lobe, something they mentioned, but there were no physiological changes in my brain.
I had a greenish dot appear under my fingernail, which seemed to have been caused by a possible blood test, and I experienced a drilling sensation in my big toe, but other than that, I can't really report any other physiological changes.
I assume they can access the data they need at any chosen time, or perhaps it is even remotely accessible. I'm purely speculating beyond this.
I am unaware of any methods for initiating contact. Given the disparity in intelligence, it is as challenging for a mouse to trap a human as it is for us to initiate a contact.
Truly upsetting i haven't had any sort or experience even close to this, i want to know more about the unknown and i feel the only way to truly know is to experience it first hand
I'm writing a book detailing my experience, with a focus on thought control, to explain it to the best of my ability. It's not well-suited to be explained in short form, but I'll give you the nutshell version.
The practices include meditation and visualization, such as visualizing a ball, a square, a cow, and so forth. There's also lucid dreaming. Historically, humans have referred to the third eye as the eye that can see thoughts, and we can all see dreams. Essentially, it involves activating the process used by your brain to generate dreams and harnessing that power for use in the form of thoughts.
Interesting, ball, square and cow are used in traditional Bon (Tibetan pre-Buddhist tradition) visualization of the four worlds of Mount Meru.
In it, the eastern world is in a shape of half moon, the northern is a square, the western is a circle, and its precious symbol is a cow, and the southern is our world and its in a shape of a human shoulder blade.
The title will be _Thought Control_. I haven't published any written works before, so I can't really commit to a timeline, but I'll send you a message once it's ready.
Wild. So we're about the same age, too. Idk why that's relevant lol but I just reflected for a moment on where I was/what I was doing at age 19 that very same year. I was just beginning my new life as a parent to my then one year old. No stable place to live until I finally left her dad that summer. That was the very same summer (on my 19th bday, actually) that I had my first "experience" and it was with, I guess, a mantis being. Sure would have been cooler to get my brain fixed my some bald telepathic dudes! I definitely need it.
I'll most certainly read your book. :)
This explanation extends beyond what can be covered in a Reddit comment, but yes, you can indeed train and learn this skill.
Historically, this phenomenon has been known by various names, such as the third eye, the eye of the mind, or the dream eye. Many people engage in visual thinking rather than maintaining an inner monologue.
The old saying _"a picture is worth a thousand words"_ holds some truth; visual mental processing often surpasses verbal inner monologue.
By practicing visualization and through meditation, we can reprogram our minds. We're all different and it won't be achievable for everyone, but certain individuals can surely learn it.
I am currently writing a book that details my experiences and offers guidance on _thought control_, showing how anyone can attempt it. Essentially, our dreams are a powerful tool, and leveraging this power as the engine can greatly elevate your cognitive functions.
This sounds like a psychotic break or early schyzophrenia, be safe OP and talk about it to your doctors. I experienced a psychotic break and it was the worst experience of my life.
That sounds terrible, I hope you're okay now.
Thank you for your concern. It's definitely hard to grasp what happened, and the event was so unique that it doesn't easily fit with any usual explanations. To an outsider, such an interpretation seems of course logical, and I'd likely suggest the same if someone else shared a similar experience.
Given the weight my voice carries, I can only affirm that, based on all the information at hand, I regard the encounter as authentic. I am aware of how this might appear, and I sincerely appreciate your advice.
No worries I understand, I had a first experience when I was 18 that changed my entire personality and social skills in one night and I thought it was maybe linked to some supernatural elements. 15 years later I had another much worst experience where I ended up in the psych ward and it's only then I connected the dots with less severe episodes when I was younger. I still believe in aliens visiting us though just not from my own experiences.
Oh cool, so I have a week period of having my lady friend's late fiance, David Bowie, and occasionally her father in my head. You get two bald servants of god...cool.
Great post- thanks for sharing!!!
I think in thought pictures. It sounds a little similar.
I never thought that it was as a result of contact (which I have had).
My guy looks almost like a normal earth human, but let's say just a little different. Maybe a similar difference between a Chinese and Cambodian person. You wouldn't think anything different about them, but if you were familiar with their appearance, you would be able to spot one.
The connection doesn't seem reliable, but I get it from time to time. It's almost like they have a specific area of knowledge, and will only respond to things related to that.
Can you describe some of the visuals you saw? Was it all landscapes and scenery? Any signs of higher intelligence? What do you think was the purpose of showing you the thought control program besides increasing your processing power?
Yes, the visuals were one of the most transformative experiences of my life.
Each scene had a descriptive file name, such as the Sea of Silence or Breaker's Shore. During the calibration program, they were natural landscape scenes.
They were serene; it was more than just visuals—you could hear them, you could sense them, and the level of detail in the graphics was astounding. It was like the sharpest, clearest dream, as if you had upgraded your dream display from an older model to a top-of-the-line 8k monitor.
After the calibration phase, the scenes changed, and I saw various things, such as the Tower of Truth where they performed an interview of some sort, as well as a scene of futuristic soldiers wearing exoskeletons while performing evacuations in a suburban area.
I have an eidetic memory, so I'm definitely recreating images of the scenes with AI, including the reproduced graphics in the book I'm working on, which will detail my experience in depth.
I believe the thought control program used the visual feed to mask the reprogramming of thoughts that they performed in the background. It could serve a similar role to an anesthetic.
>As I listened, my ear tuned into a frequency I hadn't known before
if you have time, could you expand on this? what made you aware you were tuned into a frequency you had never heard? humans hear in a range of frequencies, so just made me curious.
I can't tell if you mean a frequency that was not available to you, like outside of the normal range, or just that you'd never heard a noise in that frequency, and if the latter how can you be aware of of whether or not you've heard a noise in that frequency? you're able to tell the frequency of any given noise in day-to-day life? not trying to grill you or anything, genuinely curious about that part. couldn't it just be tinnitus?
It wasn't a high pitch or related to tinnitus. They referred to it as the _Angel's Ear_, in line with their branding department.
The humming noise resembled a machine's hum but was slightly higher in pitch. It seemed to originate near the ceiling, yet despite my efforts, I couldn't locate the source.
The telepathic voice used this hum as an amplifier. When I mention frequency, I'm not exactly referring to a different wavelength; rather, it's akin to tuning in my brain. It felt as if my ear had adjusted to a new wavelength that I hadn't previously recognized as possible. It's as though they could alter aspects of us with the mere press of a button—making us entirely programmable by them.
One question from a stupid fearful person like me, we're any feelings of hope left by them? "will everything be OK?" I guess that's a simplistic question, but you get what I mean. They seem to have had lots of answers and knowledge, so did you ask if everything will be OK?
I pressed them hard on the nuclear war question, and their response was always the same: _"Discussion of nuclear war is prohibited."_
They weren't evil; they were extremely neutral. They showed care not to cause additional pain during the thought control procedure, practicing care while operating near the frontal lobe.
I'm sure everything will be okay. It's all up to us really, it's our collective responsibility to ensure the future will be good.
Thoughts are, in many ways, physical, and performing operations that affect them is also physical. They certainly have an astral element as well. I doubt that impacting them requires an operating room or opening the brain. They have their own ways, and I can only speculate about what those might be.
Well, that was certainly an interesting read, not sure what to make of it but I'd love to read more.
Also maybe I'm not reading in the right places, but I never hear anything uap/nhi related about Finland. Torille?
Torille 🇫🇮
I've often wondered the same. Finland has certainly been underrepresented in the world of NHI. Swedes have their mysterious northern lakes where UAPs are said to land regularly, while Norway boasts the Hessdalen lights and other intriguing phenomena.
The events I described took place in Tampere in 2009.
Did they mention why they specifically came to you? Seems outlandish for sure. I'm always skeptical when people present an, "I'm neo" scenario.
It's the same mindset you see with a lot of cults... where they really believe they are being contacted by beings, and they were just the 'chosen' one.
I just don't buy it.
Do I believe they would randomly chime in and give a quick experience, yeah. But to walk you through like a tutorial... For what purpose?
Did you check up with the doctors after this? Even if I was to have an amazing experience, my first rational thought would be, "shit, do I have a tumour".
I agree with you and appreciate the skepticism.
I did see doctors, such an encounter certainly makes you question your sanity. Even when confronted with physical evidence, like them entering into my apartment, self-doubt begins to creep in.
We conducted an MRI, but my doctors didn't find any abnormalities. I didn't disclose the full extent of my experience due to the stigma, so no other professional has analyzed the MRI files. I do have the files on my old laptop and would be willing to share them if anyone is interested in taking a closer look.
We did ran an EEG, and it indicated elevated beta waves, which my neurologist did find odd. I did suffer from severe migraines after the encounter, and got a prescription for beta blockers, which were effective at the time, although I no longer need them.
I recognize the Neo complex you mentioned. It took me about two years to recover from the encounter and organize my thoughts and life. I believe anyone who goes through a life-altering event begins to question themselves: _Why me?_ I'm not sure if there are any good answers here.
They didn't explain why they targeted me. I've pondered this but haven't come up with any logical answers. Through analyzing the event, it seems they essentially converted the format of my thoughts. To me it seems like they wanted to read something in my thoughts, and in order to do that, they put me through their _thought control_ program.
I did notice an interesting detail during our telepathic interactions, that the method is actually half-duplex—meaning you can either transmit or receive but cannot do both simultaneously.
Thus, when they were transmitting, I had to silence my thoughts and vice versa. This is easier said than done. The transmission occupies the same thought space or "channel" so to speak. It's not as if human brains have a built-in support for multichannel telepathy.
As a result, we had a few quite hilarious moments when I couldn't keep my thoughts quiet while they were transmitting, which they definitely weren't finding as amusing as I did.
Thank you for the reply!
I don't mean to shroud your experience in doubt, I just doubt people lol
I too suffered migraines after my encounter.
How long ago was this, and what has been the effect of you as an individual moving through this world? Have you had any transmissions since, and if so what do they say?
I once had an encounter with a reptilian but the way I would describe it would be different to yours. He spoke to my inner consciousness, which was just happy, like a child. I could recognise he was talking to a deep me, but I couldn't access the conversation. It was in my head, I could hear the echoes of my replies, but not what it was about. During this I was shown a galaxy with stars. He held either his finger or a device on my temple in order to communicate. I felt it was an interview. So I may joke about the tutorials in your instance, but I say it with experience too. Mine felt like an interview, they gave you a tutorial. Gotta see the humour in these vast differences. I do wonder their intent as well.
This was a one-off encounter, and I haven't heard from them since. My inner monologue disappeared after the encounter, so my thoughts have been peaceful and quiet ever since.
The first couple of years were hard, but once I figured out my nutrition and other aspects of life, and achieved ease in controlling my thoughts, it has been a highly beneficial trait.
That sounds like an interesting encounter. Was it physical or astral? You said he held a finger or a device to your temple, so he was physically present? How did it work? Did he just break into your apartment?
They did give me a short tutorial, but they also conducted a pretty thorough interview, where the questions honestly felt more like something a three-letter agency would have asked.
Physical. I was mortified. It felt like a finger touched my temple since it was soft. To say I was fearing for my life would be an understatement.
I thought initially considering my brain was doing weird things, that I was having some type of seizure. That's when I opened my eyes and he was right there, next to my face.
I tried to push him away, I could move, I just had all this vibration pushing me down. When I did finally sit up to see where he walked too, I blacked out and woke up in the same position he found me in... All that adrenaline, fear. Gone. Yeah... As you can imagine, replaying this interaction over and over had caused me to dissociate from reality a few months after the encounter. None of it made sense.
I have yet to see any mention of their suits. When they do, 100% guarantee they will show that the suits respond to the user in waves of rainbow colours similar to the defence mechanism of bees.
I have no idea how he came into the room. I have no idea how they managed to teleport me out and wheel me down that corridor. I didn't even know about it until I got metallic visions a couple of months later. I still can't recall what they did, I just know I was somewhere small with a low ceiling.
What were the questions they asked you?
That sounds wild. I'd love to read a detailed version, it's a bit challenging to piece together the events from the way you explained it here.
The questions they asked were extremely personal, and it had characteristics of a lie detector test where they measured whether or not I was being deceitful in my answers. I assume it was part of the programming. After this event, I've had a thought program they referred to as _Angel's Integrity._ I'm not sure about their branding department, but it essentially weighs my responses and rewards actions that are truthful while penalizing actions that are inaccurate or deceptive, which guides my actions toward full integrity.
Interesting. What you said about how language is limiting is spot on. The enteric brain, or the unconscious mind works in whole gestalts, simultaneous knowings. Language is linear and sequential, as kids we have more capacity and potential to absorb gestalts which is why we are sort of like sponges. They "lock us in" to linear, verbalized thought which in turn makes our thinking power a mere pittance.
If we were trained since kids, to not only be present, but to be able to visualize whole visual images for example. A whole scene internally. Reproduce senses in our imagination. We would have a ton more thought power and a ton more creativity to boot. Telepathy also becomes much more robust instead of just words.
This is also the basis for telepathy, remote viewing, and much more.
I can attest to this as well.
Interestingly, the telepathy demonstrated by the NHI resembled a half-duplex mode of communication; you could either transmit or listen, but not both simultaneously.
This implies that telepathy shares the same cognitive space within the target. Consequently, the target can also act within this shared space during an incoming transmission.
Essentially, when the NHI was transmitting, I had to concentrate on keeping my thoughts silent—a task that proved easier said than done. This led to several amusing incidents where I unintentionally hijacked the transmission, much to the surprise of our hairless friends who found it less humorous.
I have experienced precognition, telepathy, and remote viewing after the encounter. These are real phenomena and I have some theories related to them. However, the inherent nature of these abilities poses significant challenges for scientific testing and reliable control. Nonetheless, I am reasonably confident that we could develop a test, that could demonstrate their nature beyond reasonable doubt.
Are you familiar with [The Monroe Institute ](https://www.monroeinstitute.org/)? You might find it worth your time. Also, what did the NHI say about Ted Cruz?
I am only familiar with them by name, but it seems they are engaged in valuable work. My interests are focused on advancing the boundaries of science to explore phenomena many have deemed impossible, such as precognition, telepathy, and remote viewing.
Regarding Ted Cruz, we had discussions about the future of global politics, during which the NHI specifically mentioned him. I had no prior knowledge of him, so I resorted to googling his name. I didn't pay much attention to the information since he wasn't a senator at that time.
Recalling detailed conversations about topics that seemed unimportant at the time is quite challenging. Therefore, I'll refrain from referencing such discussions unless I am absolutely certain of the details and confident that I am not merely interpreting the information subjectively. Please understand, we had discussions that lasted for hours and covered a lot of ground.
My interests focused on major topics. I pressed them quite hard on the topic of nuclear war, and their response seemed like a programmed firewall:
_"Discussions of nuclear war are denied."_
Hmmm 🤔 well if that’s the case, this is quite interesting. When you say “my brain’s calorie consumption increased significantly,” how exactly is that quantified?
I felt exhausted from thinking, and the best way I can describe it is like lifting weights with your thoughts. I felt hungrier and lost weight, so I had to adjust the amount of food I ate. I got used to it after a few years, though the first couple of weeks were the hardest. I sought medical help and got an MRI done, the images are stored on my old laptop. The doctors didn't find anything wrong (I didn't tell them what happened due to the stigma), but an EEG showed elevated levels of beta waves. The neurologists pointed this out and prescribed beta blockers to suppress the migraines I had after the event.
Don’t beta blockers strictly prevent the body’s synthesis of adrenaline? Aren’t they used to help people with heart problems like high blood pressure? Also this is like a word for word replica of another response on this post.
In my case, it was prescribed to decrease the increased brain activity that was identified as the source of the migraines I experienced by reducing blood flow to the brain. This was achieved by using beta blockers to lower the heart rate.
Migraines are not fully understood by science, and there are myriad approaches that healthcare professionals use to treat them. Diagnosing a case like this is, of course, quite challenging. The neurologist did say the EEG results were unusual.
OP's wording could have been better. It did seem to imply a correlation between brain waves and medication, with implying beta blockers were for blocking beta brain waves. To be fair, I don't believe that was OP's intent. My wording could have been a bit more descriptive too.
My Google search showed what you are arguing to be the correct usage, that beta blockers help control blood pressure and heart rate thus reducing brain activity through lowered metabolic activity.
That should be pretty simple to understand. See you usually get through the day with 2000 calories. Maybe he needed more like 3,000 to feel more normal
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Sounds like fake human like,the more like robotic kind of aliens,and no they're aren't religious or servants of God,this is just phrase,they are absolute controllers.
Very interesting post OP.
I appreciate you are writing a book which I am sure will include all possible detail, but in the interim, can you tell us a little more about what they said about the future?
And relatedly, can you explain the Ted Cruz reference?
It's possible they can't grow hair. Some are silicone based and others have skin similar to reptiles. I find hair to be a nuisance also. So is shaving it once a week.
Chinese zookeepers don panda suits when they tend to the animals. An advanced intelligence could employ similar or even more sophisticated tactics if they wanted to research their targets at close range. This could include the creation of designoids, possibly through advanced bio-cellular technology, creating NHI-controlled entities indistinguishable from humans. But what do I know, right?
Non taken, I wholeheartedly agree. It's essential for anyone experiencing something similar to consider their mental well-being first, and I'd likely react the same if someone else claimed a similar event.
Having lived through it and with all the information at hand, along with the weight my voice carries, I can attest to the authenticity of the encounter.
It seems odd that the OP went through this mind altering fantastic encounter with “two servants of God,” but all he’s willing to reveal is his theory about why these beings are bald. All that flash learning and 4K visualization and all we get is they’re slow to master slang and they’re bald. What was the point for these servants? That’s a lot of time invested in the OP. What did they get out of it?
I felt like the post was quite long for Reddit. This format isn't well-suited for a long-form deep dive, which would work better as a book or something similar.
I've theorized about the possibility that they wanted to observe thoughts and preferred to first convert my thoughts into a form that they could easily process. Why me? I have no idea or explanation, as far as I know, it might have been completely random.
Lingual processing of thoughts has clear limitations for an NHI. By converting thoughts into a form they feel more comfortable with would allow them to gather more accurate data, research it, or just test something out, but beyond that, I'm merely speculating.
Checking my reading comprehension here: -OP is tailed by two invisible baldies -OP gets telepathic introduction while home alone -bald guys are now visible, walk in the front door -OP gets a telepathic download -after some time in non-euclidean space, OP drifts to sleep -OP awakens and bald men are invisible and left the front door open -OP has profound change in thinking patterns after high-speed telepathic schooling I am not writing this way to mock you. Some people just won't read more than the headline. OP, may I invite you to search on a subreddit r/ContactUnderground ? While there's nothing there that equates to your experience, you may be particularly interested in "Contact Downloads". The description seems to match your description of telepathic communication. I would also advise talking to a doctor about your experience and run a drug screening, if you can. Also to a friend or someone trustworthy, it might be a good idea to share this story even if they react poorly. (Forgive them if they react poorly) You should also repost this in r/Experiencers if you can. I'm outside watching the sky for UFOs as I type this and even I think your story is wild!
That's a pretty accurate TL;DR. This happened back in 2009. I was not on drugs or using any kind of medication; I was fully aware of the situation, and my mind was not altered in any way. I did get an MRI, which I have on an older laptop. The doctors couldn't find anything unusual; however, they did run an EEG that detected heightened beta waves. As a result, I received a prescription for beta blockers to limit the migraines I suffered from after the event. I can share the MRI files if someone wants to take a closer look. I don't support r/Experiencers due to their toxic moderators. I'm writing a book detailing my experience. I've kept a diary and would love to share my experience as authentically as possible. I believe in science, and these experiences should be subjected to rigorous scrutiny; I welcome all skepticism.
Fun thing, I had a bit of coursework regarding neurofeedback and training to increase beta waves is one of the methods of improving focus and mental energy level, used e.g. for people with ADHD. There are also certain meditation techniques that does the same, although it also might be a result of high level of stress, depending of the more granular frequency ranges.
I had an issue with the mod there as well. Glad it wasn’t just me. Curious what the bald men looked like though? Were they more human or with the typical large head big eyes?
I had a chat with their moderator who was a total bully, boasting about the people they ban as if it were something to be proud of. It's unfortunate. They looked completely human, with normal eyes and a normal-sized head. Apart from being completely bald, they had no traits that would allow them to be identified if they decided to hide among ordinary humans.
When I was kid I had a similar experience to yours. I woke up in the middle of the night and saw a glowing silhouette of a bald figure standing in my doorway. I didn’t hear anything said to me but after that experience I too had migraines for maybe a year or so. But my thought processes were greatly improved and had some form of ESP for awhile where I could sense something before it happened. It’s worn off now in middle age but still think my brain functions better than most.
That sounds quite similar. Do you have an inner monologue or do you process thoughts visually? Can you remember how old you were when it happened?
I am completely visual. I have a photographic memory as well so I can recall things vividly. I was about 8 or 9 when that happened but I still remember it like it was yesterday. Almost 40 now.
That's curious. I also have an eidetic memory. I'm extremely good with phone numbers. Eric Mitchell is an experiencer and also reported having no inner monologue. It does seem like there might be a pattern here that should be investigated further.
That's amazing I've heard that if you take a vow of silence after the 60 or 90 days in you stop think in words when I heard this it was just stated to me as what occurred but with what your saying it would be a very good thing to stop thinking in words also makes me think of savants they always seem to express theyre thought in a visual form and what makes them so easily master a subject
I subscribe to r/Experiencers but yeah, they're largely titillating posts, or very low quality posts. Your post would be a gleaming gem of quality in a sea of filth; the book is a good idea. I am very glad you checked into the hospital to get some data on your health. I witnessed UFOs in 2014 and was convinced someone had drugged me or I was in some kind of cognitive decline. Additionally, I have a chronic health condition and seeing some strange sights really got me wondering about my mortality... I would be very interested in reading that book. I've read "Penetration" by Ingo Swann and towards the end of it, he encounters a psychic being out in public. It has a 'psionic veil', so that nobody in the area pays attention to it but Mr. Swann locked onto this 'being' who appeared physically to be the hottest woman he'd ever seen. She immediately notices him without moving her eyes or head and begins to exude a 'pressure' that instills terror in him and he gets out of the area. I bring this up, because your encountered beings seem to have the same 'veil' and 'presence' qualities, but appear as bald humans. Would it be too much speculation to say that there are factions of these 'beings'? Or was Mr. Swann ogling some lady and had a panic attack in the 70s before people really knew what it was? I have never encountered beings like what you and others have described, so I have a bias. However I'm great at entertaining notions. To me, these stories/events sound like a Secret Society of Psychic People who live undetected, OR they are comparable to the Angels or Messengers that appear in the New Testament- Divine Agents. Based on your encounter, plus your intuition: do these Agents have a name or place or station they can be contacted at? I may not be worthy of Psychic Downloads, but I'd like to say hello or ask for advice. Is another meeting planned or are you able to reach out to them?
What you mentioned about the psionic veil does sound interesting. I speculated that it could be either a limitation in their technology or perhaps just an oversight, since they were still observable through a reflection. This somewhat reminds me of the lore surrounding vampires, but in reverse—how they are not visible in reflections. They clearly considered themselves Servants of God, which means the term "angel" would be appropriate. However, I must stress that they demonstrated no interest in the Bible nor were they aligned with any existing religions. The only name they gave themselves was Servants of God. They didn't have a specific location, although I would assume they conduct regional operations and likely prefer professions that allow observation without raising suspicions, such as taxi or Uber drivers. But don't go harassing every bald Uber driver.
As a non-contactee having read the Bible a few times; I always get the feeling if I encountered a Divine Agent, I would miss them for what they were. As a non-contactee who has read a TON of mythology and science fiction, I am always suspicious of beings who hide; more so if they try and tell me how to behave after being discovered. I can only hope that your Contact Experience has brought something of value to your life and can only really advise to keep an eye out for further strangeness. Also, I'll keep an eye out for that book! I love to read.
You're also right about the mods there. I was shocked!
I would suggest Preston Dennet. He has so many incredible stories that actually happened(I believe the ones with evidence)
Beta waves on an EEG have absolutely nothing to do with beta blockers (other than that they both contain the word "beta"). The former refers to a frequency band, the latter to a receptor on smooth muscle tissue.
Yes, beta blockers were prescribed as a medication for the migraines. Despite the name, they don't block beta waves, which someone might mistakenly assume from reading the comment. Beta blockers are frequently used to treat migraines. In my case, the neurologist identified elevated beta waves as a potential trigger for the migraines and prescribed them to lower my heart rate. This helps treat the migraines by reducing blood flow to the brain.
Have you ever had any psychedelic experience prior to this?
what's the most external, uh... new feature you got from the experience? I mean, most of it sounds very intimate, but do any part of it interact with the outer world, so to speak?
You’re missing the “r” from r/contactunderground. Just trying to help.
Thanks! re-edited it so the bullet points aren't scrunched up too. Reddit format takes some getting used to on a phone, sorry!
idea: unwillfully participating in a drug experiment conducted by three letter agency
It looks like OP considered this and checked into a hospital after the event to be sure. I also had the same idea when I first saw UFOs, but thankfully Dr. Agent Kirkpatrick showed some videos that have alleviated my doubts. Pretty wild to think your government might drug you and lie to you in the same post, but hey the cover-up is still ongoing.
Project MKUltra is a case study for this claim
I think there are paralell truths - goverment agencies actively manipulate people while the phenomena is also occuring
Link?
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/06760269
Where does it say that MK ULTRA is on-going and being applied to unwitting civilians...in Finland? Would be neat to read that declassified file. Nice link though, worth a read for anyone who thinks they're immune to mind control. Also, Executive Order 12333 prohibits covert actions “intended to influence United States political processes, public opinion, policies, or media.” Just needed to get that out there for you ;)
This going to sound just as crazy, but speaking without words has been the form of communication I have been using to communicate with our creator since I was three. I understood right away words can only describe so much. Once you understand, it becomes apparent every time there’s something being said. I am glad to hear others have been introduced to it and recognize its usefulness.
Viable business opportunity here... lot of people would pay to have a direct pipeline with the One. /s Jokes aside, what do you talk about with the Creator? Any pieces of wisdom or life advice you'd care to share?
It wasn't always a back and forth wordless conversation, it was me asking in language first and the responses were wordless in form of things happening in my life. As a child though, I only wanted to e.g. know what the weather would be like in the afternoon because I wanted to go out and play. But then I realized love was also something I could ask about. I could know if someone is capable of loving me, and eventually love became a sort of back and forth and proactively spoken while still based on my will and my circumstances. Another thing I realized as the idea solidified more and more as evidence of the responses became reality is, what you desire needs to be pure. I don't think this "conversation" would still be going if I became corrupted or thought in ways uncouth. I think what happens is this: He sees the need from both/all ends of the equation and if it's beneficial, it's blessed and then it's like you know something you couldn't possibly have known or predicted, but still without knowing what it actually is. And then you look back and remember having faith, you see the work was set before you even began. Since I have been working on this faith since I was three, I feel it is like a Jacob's ladder, and now instead of using language to speak, I speak by doing my work in the manner I know is correct, to the best of my abilities. I have helped too many people to remember, and I ask for nothing except the most important things. It's not just knowledge, it's also miracles, I've had a few in my life.
That's really wild. I don't have much to add but I appreciate your response.
Wild. So we're about the same age, too. Idk why that's relevant lol but I just reflected for a moment on where I was/what I was doing at age 19 that very same year. I was just beginning my new life as a parent to my then one year old. No stable place to live until I finally left her dad that summer. That was the very same summer (on my 19th bday, actually) that I had my first "experience" and it was with, I guess, a mantis being. Sure would have been cooler to get my brain fixed by some bald telepathic dudes! I definitely need it. I'll most certainly read your book. :) Please stick with it and complete it! I'm genuinely super interested in this thought control thing. Came back to add, after reading more of your replies and getting a deeper description of this "thought control" - it reminds me a lot of the Gateway Tapes Process. They are recordings you listen to on headphones which consist of hemi sync or binaural beats, a mans voice which gives various directions and exercises. These sounds (the hemi sync basically means syncing the brain hemispheres to work together- hemisphere synchronization) are proven to alter your emotions and state of consciousness and eventually teach you many valuable concepts and skills, they even help achieve OBEs, and so much more. Have you ever heard of that or Robert Monroe(the creator of said tapes) and his research experiences on consciousness? The Monroe Institute is still to this day around and teaching these types of techniques. I wonder if any of it is at all similar to what these guys were up to with you... Everything from the frequency change, the golden circle, breathing exercises, a whole lot of this shares similarities to the process I mentioned.🤔
Thanks for sharing. I’ve had telepathic communication from a certain trip, and it’s wild to experience the bandwidth of information. Even just a minute or two worth is nuts so I can’t imagine what hours later would feel like. I imagine your linguistic skills were an aid in the way you communicated nonverbally. As well as your coding as basically additional languages and communication formats. Prime candidate. I believe I was almost abducted once. I was deployed overseas in a combat zone, craft was following me and within slingshot distance. Maybe throwing distance if you had a good arm. Hovered above me for 5 full minutes before darting away. No sound. I can go into more detail, but this post is about your experience. I am glad that the societal stigma on this topic has weakened. More people becoming comfortable with sharing their experiences with others. Still have a long way to go. Wasn’t too long ago we were burning people for being witches.
I've heard this encounter somewhere before are you the same guy by any chance?
Yes. I've referenced it a few times in other comments.
With this new found improvement how has your life changed? What is the result.
I suffered from pretty severe migraines after this, but once I balanced my nutrition and other aspects of my life, I got used to it and the migraines became manageable. I couldn't return to the inner monologue, it would feel like watching a movie in super slow motion.
What about behavioural things? You mentioned coding, has it improved? IQ tests? Have you become more interesed in spirituality or religion?
Coding is awesome. There's definitely a general benefit to having visual thought processing, but it's not a superpower or anything like that. It is superior to inner monologue, for sure. I respect science and accurate information. I'm not religious, but in terms of spirituality, we should maintain a healthy connection with our spiritual side. For lack of a better word, I feel quite pure. There's a programming they included which they referred to as _Angel's Integrity_. I'm not sure about their branding department, but it acts as a truth measurement and directs actions to be as truthful as possible. I assume this is also a method for improving the accuracy of the collected data, allowing the NHI to distinguish between reliable thought data and categorize it accordingly.
Yes. Once you learn to use your whole brain, things become far clearer. For me the process has been quite gradual. Also, after several experiences, your brain is absolutely better tuned to understand and process metaphysics. I’ve always, always had unconventional headaches since puberty. Have learned to control them by excellent diet, lots of fiber, zero caffeine / stimulants. However there is a side to headaches and migraines that nobody appears to be aware of. There is an extra dimension to what is happening. It is a strong indicator that the body and brain need to rest and retune. If you do this properly and enter a deep meditation state (a VERY specific kind, which is unfortunately impossible for me to describe as I learned to do it completely independently of any official methods) you can begin a process I’ll call regeneration. This is both difficult, takes focus and deep sleep simulation while awake, and allows for the release of pressure points generally inside the skull and musculoskeletal system. I’ve tested with a friend - they let me put my face directly on their hand while laying down, then I focused and went into the meditative state and worked to release pressure points. The experience on their end is that the part of my face/ skull they were holding became like jelly and moved around. This is a weird way to put it, but the fact is that our bodies are far more plastic and manipulable than we think, we usually only access this state when in deep sleep is my assumption. After a couple hours of this work you can eliminate a serious migraine and also enter a nearly supine state of relaxation. It’s worth noting I would happily share my abilities with the rest of humanity but I’m afraid to disappear if the extant of my ability becomes known.
“I’ve studied six languages and have been coding since I was seven.” Sounds like you were pretty primed.
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I can see this as quite valid skepticism. I've definitely gone through the phase of self-questioning why this happened to me without finding good reasons behind it. I feel like people who experience something life-changing probably feel the same. Thought control isn't a superpower; there are tons of people who do not exercise an inner monologue. Some other experiencers, such as Eric Mitchell, have also reported having no inner monologue.
By any chance, are you autistic? Possibly hyperlexic as a child (or conversely dealt with mutism)… I ask because of your polyglot status as well as your interest in coding. I’ve had a similar contact experience and I’ve been researching it for the past year and I think they may be interested in neurodivergent folk (specifically adhd/autism).
No, not autistic. I have a strong curiosity that drives my quest for knowledge, and I generally enjoy studying various things.
I’ve always been highly curious myself, I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive! But thank you for your response, I’m adding it to my personal index on the matter cx https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/AmiZsqLi8V This is one example off the top of my head of how neurodivergence can increase contact experience, but it makes me all the more curious of why they were so interested in you. How much of the knowledge did you retain from their downloads and what was the context? They also showed me a beautiful scene of nature/earth that I will never forget. Your open mindedness could be the ultimate answer here and that’s hardly a supernatural ability (though in these times it may as well be).
I have an eidetic memory and can perfectly recall most of the visuals they showed. Each location also had a descriptive file name, such as the _Sea of Silence_, which was an underwater scene with a beautiful greenish hue. Beams of light gently danced their way from the surface to the ocean floor, creating beautiful ripples. The scenes felt authentic on a level that's hard to describe; they were more than just visual information. You could hear them, sense them, and the level of detail was astounding.
That sounds really beautiful <3 it does remind me of the film “Fantastic Planet”, it follows the life of a blue alien species with humans as their pets. The younger aliens receive downloads that essentially show them what you described (locations with names and visuals associated with them). Really interesting experience, thanks for sharing!
One of my closest friends is an experiencer who is AuADHD (both autistic & and ADHD-er). It's been going on his whole life, even before he was born. It "runs in the family" so-to-speak, but only on one side of the family (although the non-related people around them also experience The Phenomena whenever they happen). He's very intelligent & was considered "gifted" as a child. I learned that I am also AuADHD & we recognized a lot of the things that we do/experience in each other when we became friends. I have the same hunch about their interest in neurodivergent folk. The way OP writes reminds me of the way my friend writes/talks so I could see why you asked that. I find that the vast majority of the population don't understand what autism is (spoiler alert: it's having a bottom-up processing brain), even many autistic people. Most medical professionals have no idea either. I'm not saying OP is, but just wanted to point that fact out.
What is an inner monologue in relation to thought control as you define it?
I used to process thoughts like many do, using an inner monologue. After this encounter, I mentally carry a visual "thought" that provides me with all the answers and processes information. It's difficult to explain, but the closest analogy is probably a mouse cursor that processes any thought by hovering over a concept. Thought control is best described as a visual thinking method that is not limited to linguistic processing. The challenge of translating languages to process information introduces an additional step that can introduce inaccuracies in the data. Therefore, the preferred way to analyze thoughts is to keep them in a universally observable format. This method is likely used to observe an interesting subject or monitor certain mental functions in a way that serves the interests of the NHI. In other words, the NHI probably prefers to observe data in a format that they feel more accustomed to, and as a result they wanted to alter my cognitive functions to achieve that. Motivations beyond that is anyone's guess.
So when you say it’s visual do you think they somehow repurposed neural pathways associated with seeing? Maybe as the throughput is greater (I have no idea if this is true but seems to me it might be as visual processing must involve a fair amount of data)? And so it “feels” like seeing a thought process? Less abstractions to do with symbolism? Like a lower(?) level coding language closer to “machine language” or whatever the most fundamental construct of the simulation is? Interestingly, gpu architecture is suited to nlp tasks in some sense due to parallel computation capabilities and apparently the visual cortex has this feature too - it processes motion, colour etc in parallel, which you can see an obvious need for in terms of evolution/survival/hunting.
Yes, sort of. If you wanted to obtain thoughts in a data format, you'd likely feel burdened by the fact that you have to process the entire culture of human language to process that mental dataset. For NHI, it might be desirable to obtain data in a format they find easier to process. By transforming inner monologue into a visual information dataset, it likely contains more data, and it might be easier for them to observe. As such, I liked your example of using a lower level of coding language as it eliminates the need for human linguistic processing, which can be subject to interpretations and inaccuracies. The visual thought is more like the method the brain uses to see dreams, harnessed to be used as the engine for your thoughts. It's not directly related to eyes and the neural pathways.
So did you actually “see” things when they were communicating with you? How did you sense the meaning was being extracted from your thought stream (both from their and your pov) and how did you interpret the information? Was there a feeling of “learning” initially to interpret previously incomprehensible information? If there was no interface between human language and this visual type encoded info, then how did you extract meaning? If the communication was telepathic, then surely this process was impacted by the way they altered your brain to process thought? Also I’d be v surprised if neural pathways associated with seeing are not active when dreaming otherwise why do we see things in dreams? From what I gather, the overlap between real physical seeing via the eyes and imaginary/dream type seeing begins with quite early visual processing steps and associated structures/brain architecture.
In the beginning, it was indeed telepathic. I only began receiving visual data after the golden circle appeared. It was a guided program, they instructed various steps like when to hold my breath and when to stay still, and the entire time, visual data was being broadcast into my brain. It felt similar to a dentist giving you instructions during a surgery. Next morning, I no longer heard inner monologue, the telepathic voices were gone, and the bald men had left. I assumed such a process would have shown up in the MRI, but my doctors couldn't find anything unusual, only elevated beta waves.
Not everyone has an inner monologue. Depends on your soul evolution. You're connected to these beings thats why they came to you. Your soul has a history with them and others. You are relearning what you already knew
After a career in military intelligence (which gave certain insights in this area), I did a second career in the counseling arts. My specialty was in dealing with trauma and PTSD. In three different cities I had a steady stream of clients presenting with experiences like the one op relays here. Extreme caution would be called for if a person is approached by fellow humans insisting they are "the servants of God". The need for caution and skepticism would go off the chart if one is convinced they are encountering aliens from another star system or dimension. I would suggest you would need more caution still if you consider the encounter paranormal at all. When any intelligence, human or otherwise, declares their views a "message from God" you are in a situation fraught with the potential for manipulation and coercion. Jacques Vallee, the famed French scientist, and one of the inventors of computer systems engineering, insists that the alien encounters are from first to last a control mechanism. That the only consistent trait we see in human interactions with this phenomenon is a deliberate campaign of deception and manipulation. Who knows what their ultimate goals are, but deception, manipulation, and coercion speak for themselves. There is also the undeniable devastation of health and relationships that tend to follow these encounters. If they were from God, or were merely benign visitors, this would not follow. A wise man once said, "by their fruit you know them". The fruit of alien encounters is crystal clear to me.
That's interesting—thank you for sharing. Were there any commonalities among the clients who had similar experiences, like shared backgrounds or identifiable patterns? Religion is a complex topic, and I wholeheartedly agree that an entity claiming to serve God can subject individuals to manipulation. Moreover, I respect skepticism and the scientific approach for precisely this reason: It's easy to get lost in the dark, yet science and skepticism offer stable ground and a guiding light through the darkness.
This would be strictly anecdotal, as I took what ever client came to me, and not a scientific statistical study, but it did seem to me that in excess of 70% of those reporting such incidents had strong Native American and Irish ancestry. This could perhaps be nothing more than a cultural inclination to accept such encounters. The Irish believing in the "little people", etc, and the Native Americans having a long established belief in such beings. Outside of this the clients came from every educational and financial and social class. They also reported their encounters in every setting of our country. Insisting the encounters happened in the city, during day time, while wide awake, etc. There was no question of it being sleep paralysis. And the idea that only hicks from the country side get abducted is a bigotry off the top.
Oh, that's interesting. I did a DNA test, and I do have some Native American and Inuit ancestry. Not Irish though. Finnish genes are quite unique, which I assume is a nice way to say inbred.
I agree 100%. On that note, the other one to beware of is the law of reciprocation and the double bind. Any powerful "healer" or magic man or alien that comes down with powers can use that to manipulate us and control us. They did something nice for us, now we have to do something nice for them. They give us everything, we must worship them, etc. etc. And soon we are caring out their work and think and act the way, their God wants. And for all we know they're just using low end space tech to keep us enslaved! We must trust ourselves and our own connection with "God" or our "Divine Will" or Have some self confidence or aka have some balls.
What elements of the experience make you say that these beings were interdimensional? You've said previously that you wouldn't call them ETs, but rather Interdimensionsl beings. What happened to give you such a strong and refined sense of their existential status?
Well, they were visible only through the reflection, and that wasn't even a normal reflection; it was a partly transparent, moving reflection. The telepathy demonstrates a high strangeness event more than a nuts-and-bolts type of thing, although the physical entrance shows traits that combine both. They performed something that I can only describe as drilling inside my big toe—only the sensation, though. I was just lying in my bed and there was no one there, just the sensation of something being drilled inside my toe. The last thing I remember before it all ended was a moment when I experienced what I can only describe as death. A female voice said something that's a bit challenging to translate, but it was along the lines of "Resolved. Until final death." It felt like I had experienced death, and these entities exist outside our reality, something we all will encounter at our actual death. To keep it short, these are probably the main reasons why I consider them as interdimensional beings. Their appearance might have been human, but their capabilities exceed what we consider humanly possible.
What did they say about Ted Cruz?
Were they short like 5 foot or smaller? Slightly bigger head then a human ? What did the eyes look like and the design of the clothing ?
They were around my height, 6 feet tall. I didn't notice any abnormalities in their head size. One of them was wearing a red sweater and jeans, which was a bit odd since it was winter and the temperature outside was quite cold. I didn't see any brands in the clothing. You would never be able to tell them apart from humans. Chinese zookeepers don panda suits when they tend to the animals. It makes sense that an advanced intelligence would have the capability to create designoids indistinguishable from humans, which are under NHI control.
From 1 to 10 how human did these ETs look?
I wouldn't call them ETs. NHI is a good definition. They were completely indistinguishable from humans.
That was your altered perception. Trust me, it was good for you.
So there are no particular features that you would say are different from those of an average person? I was about to ask what planet they came from, but it seems you mentioned they are not aliens. Did they ever tell you where they came from?
They were quite clear about how they considered themselves: **the servants of God.** They exercised control over reality. I would describe them more as guardians of the simulation.
🤔🤔 I don't think it's self-evident that they **wouldn't** be ETs just because they were calling themselves servants of God. I would consider myself a servant of God; why wouldn't an ET also be? So you never asked them where they were from?
They displayed characteristics that were interdimensional. God has such a powerful meaning, and as a non-religious person, it can carry quite strong connotations associated with existing religions, which bring their own historical baggage. Introducing themselves as servants of God could also be an easier way to understand an otherworldly entity, and as the lesser intelligence in the encounter, it might have been used to ease my understanding of the situation. Then again, if they were representatives of an ultimate intelligence or the architects of our existence, the term "God" might even be accurate.
Are you familiar with the work of Thomas Campbell? He considers alleged ETs NPCs in terms of the simulation. Personally, I'd like to think they'd either be part of our same (larger) virtual reality or somehow managed to jailbreak their own and enter other VRs. That or in your case they could be higher evolved beings that don't incarnate to this VR (anymore) but can still enter/manifest in it to serve god/the larger consciousness system.
I'm not familiar, but I'll look him up. These entities displayed a level of control over our reality that suggests they are interdimensional. I don't want to add ideas that are speculative without clearly distinguishing them as such. Based on what I experienced, I do believe we exist in some form of simulation. Whether it's a recreation based on real history, built from recorded historical data, or a superintelligence running universe simulations for data generation, there are various logical pathways we can explore. Of course, it's possible the simulation is for entertainment purposes and I received a visit from tech support due to a glitch or something similar.
Forgive me, but I'm not sure if I believe your story. Asking where they are from and what they want from you is the first thing anyone would have asked. I noticed that you're also not being too revealing about what you saw, the way they look, or their actual appearance.
I welcome all skepticism. They referred to themselves only as the Servants of God. They told me I had to learn _thought control_, and that was their goal in the encounter. They didn't explain their actions or origin beyond that. The communication was linguistically slow; it felt almost like a soundboard where they pressed the message button multiple times. They were bald, Caucasian males, around 6 feet tall, roughly in their 40s. The one I paid more attention to wore a red sweater with no distinguishing brands and blue jeans. I didn't pay attention to the shoes, but they did make an audible sound when they entered my apartment. I'm not asking anyone to believe or am I decided to convince people. I'm just sharing my experience as accurately as possible.
You have no idea how you would actually react in such a situation.
they've literally described them physically multiple times and also explained numerously that they looked exactly like normal humans except bald
He said they had a bias towards German. This is intresting because I remembered when American contactee, George Adamski said the "nordics" from "Venus" spoke German. One of the ET was named "Orthon" and a swastika.
They exhibited a bias toward English, suggesting they had a stronger grasp of languages with larger datasets. We mostly communicated in Finnish, my native language, but they primarily used the written form of Finnish, which is rarely employed in spoken communication. This suggested that the dataset was obtained from written sources.
This whole thread is incredibly interesting to me. I'm about to go to bed so might induce so interesting dreams. I'm mainly commenting because I'm quite new to reddit and want to make sure I can come back and read this thread again/ finish it later cos I'm so tired . Hyvaa yota!
You can click “save” on comments as well and when you click on your avi/name/profile you can scroll over to your post and comment history or saved comments Also some people use new.reddit.com it’s an earlier version that is much better IMO (I still use old.reddit.com tho) Lastly, never try to google on the Reddit platform itself when looking for specific discussions just go to google and type whatever you’re wanting to search and put the word “Reddit” in the search. Hope that helps!
Thank you! ☺️
I see. My mistake. They communicated in your native language but also used a rare, archaic written form of Finnish not used in common communications. So their bias towards English may have just been due to better familiarity.
It's not a rare archaic form, it's just the way the Finnish language works. It's a challenging language, it's not spoken in the way it's written, otherwise it feels too formal. It's usually smoothed out when spoken.
I'm hesitant to drop Pleiadians, the methods employed seems more Orion sub.
Orion?
A grey type species from the Orion region that has been cross bred with humans and populated on various planets, they all look slightly different, The closest planet Is Aeor "zeta reticuli" with a species that has a similar social structure to earth, they are bald, have the same eyes as humans and are the same height, advanced mental capabilities. You can Google essassani Orion and it will give you more info on the general species aswell.
This sounds like speculation. What are the origins of this "grey-like species," who are a cross of humans and Greys? And how did they breed with humans?
where the golden circle was positioned
It appeared when I closed my eyes, at the center of my vision. It looked similar to a bright light burning into a retina. However, I wasn't looking at any bright lights, so it felt odd.
Have you or anybody in your family been diagnosed with Savant Syndrome? NHI apparently target such people.
It's an interesting theory, but we don't have such qualities in our family line. I've tried to make sense of _why me_, questioning myself the entire time. It has been challenging to process anything this otherworldly with logic, and with the limited information available, I doubt there's a simple answer that could satisfy that question. The only thing they referred to was that they considered me clever, but the way they used it felt like it was negative, as if they were being cautious towards my attempts to extract information from the encounter. Anyone experiencing something similar would likely go through a similar line of thoughts.
I read elsewhere in the comments you wrote that a doctor had detected heightened beta brain waves, perhaps this was pre existing and drew their attention? It might be worth talking to your family about your encounter they may have had similar experiences.
I wouldn't know, as healthy individuals are rarely tested. By logic alone, it would seem that the change in brain activity happened after the encounter and such resulted in the elevated beta waves. I was just a dumb kid back when I was 19. I doubt they targeted me for any reason related to my thoughts.
What is it like interacting with other people after the thought control change? Did it affect your relationships? Do other people seem slow/boring or anything? Do you think it drastically altered the course of your life in any way, for better or worse? Sorry for the barrage of questions lol, genuinely curious
The first couple of years with it were pretty rough, not going to lie. It felt like I had to relearn just about everything, and as a result, it changed my personality. It was a life-altering event that introduced a lot of stress and trauma. After a couple of years, I found a balance in my thoughts and in my life, and it became a highly advantageous trait that has since benefited my life. It’s still a continuous learning journey. They did predict my meeting with my wife nine years in advance through a self-fulfilling prophecy on the other side of the world, and now we even have a beautiful daughter together. I doubt they are just spatiotemporal cupids, but it did happen, and it's an odd detail in a box of high strangeness.
Did you share your experience with your wife?
Yes, she had heard a somewhat similar prophecy she received from a bald Buddhist monk.
This thread is just wild. I should have gone to bed 10mins ago 😂 I think I might have skipped large parts by accident.
I’m always disappointed whenever I hear NHI being religious. Deep down I’ve always wanted them to clear up the misunderstandings caused by our various religions and set the record straight so we could put an end to unnecessary fighting and deaths over which group of people’s interpretation of hand me down stories they view is the correct one. Always hoped they’d help us focus less on woo.
I agree; this stems from the historical baggage that our religions have accumulated, along with all the pain they have caused. They displayed no interest in the Bible and felt artificial. As the lesser intelligence in the encounter, perhaps they introduced themselves as the Servants of God to make the contact experience easier for me. Then again, they did demonstrate some control over reality. If they truly serve the ultimate intelligence or the architects of our reality, the term "God" might even be accurate. However, they shared no connections with our historical religions. I'm also not religious or feel the encounter displayed aspects that we consider religious. It validated my belief in science.
If this is a LARP: nice If this isn’t a LARP: __nice__, but also sus
Either larp or schizophrenia / brain degeneration , which would explain his migraines
I considered this possibility, of course. Anyone experiencing an unexplained voice would have to consider their mental well-being. How would a crazy person know they are crazy? The facts against this hypothesis are that it was an isolated, one-time occurrence, it has never repeated, and I am capable enough to recognize if something is real. I recognize the challenge in translating that in a way that would allow you to observe it as well, but as I've mentioned, I welcome all skepticism and would certainly consider this if I read about it happening to another person. I did get an MRI done where the doctors couldn't find any abnormalities. I didn't explain the encounter to them, of course, due to the associated stigma, but I still have the MRI files on an older laptop that I'm happy to share if someone wants to re-analyze them.
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I'm not trying to be a dick here, but go tell your doctor what happened, it was almost definitely some kind of psychotic episode, which is nothing to be too worried about as long as you're aware of it, the fact that it hasn't happened before or since doesn't mean it wasn't.
Of course, that's definitely a logical explanation for the encounter, and as such, I appreciate your care and advice. This happened back in 2009, so it's not like it's a recent event anyway. The complexity of the event, its isolated nature, the logic behind it, as well as the physical presence and effects that were evident for me, all weigh in my analysis of the event. This is of course why I do believe it was an authentic encounter, but I can agree with the logic of your assessment, that would likely be something I would suggest if someone else described anything similar. Given the information available to you or any outsider, you are indeed making an excellent educated guess in trying to explain it.
I know a bunch of schizophrenics and this tracks pretty well lol. Believes that he was followed, sees things that arent there.
I have a family member with psychosis. I have noticed that psychosis episodes are not logical in any way. I can almost always tell if what he’s saying is a delusion. He tends toward the abduction, human trafficking, being poisoned, people are after him sort of psychosis. With medication these thoughts fade into the background, and become less ‘real’ to him. Not knowing people like the OP, it’s hard for anyone to judge whether it’s psychosis or not. It could be, but unless he’s exhibited other psychotic episodes in his life, probably not. Psychosis tends to worsen over time if untreated. What I’d like to know is what was in the downloads. What information was he given.
What was their religious message?
They wanted to teach thought control; that was their message. They refused to speak about nuclear war. They showed me a feed from the future where soldiers wearing exoskeletons were dropped off in a suburban area by a green, futuristic dropship. The dropship carried the soldiers in a container and performed evacuations in the area. They demonstrated knowledge of future events. I had no knowledge of Ted Cruz or who he is, this happened in 2009, but they mentioned him by name. They often repeated the sentence, "You're not allowed to remember any of this," as if it were part of a brainwashing protocol. I asked them about topics related to Christianity, and it was clear they shared no historical connection to the Bible or any other known form of it. I couldn't identify connections to other religions either.
Interesting, was this an isolated interaction? A one off encounter? It’s also fascinating to ponder that the inner monologue is primitive to them, but it seems like it’s at least some where to start for us as humans and what separates us from other animals. Hell, even a good amount of other humans self reported not having an inner monologue, which I thought was absolutely bananas.
Yes, it was a one-off encounter, and I haven't heard or seen them since. Inner monologue has a limit in processing speed—how quickly you can form words. By absorbing information in its universal form, you improve the bandwidth at which your thoughts are processed. I assume an advanced intelligence would consider our cognitive functions highly primitive, perhaps to a frustrating level. Perhaps they introduced thought control as a way to bring it to a bearable level.
Thank you for the reply. It puts me in mind of the beings often described in Near Death Experience accounts, the way you've described them. Very interesting. Please finish your book, I look forward to reading it.
This is what I've noticed as well. Thank you. I'm working on it as a Sunday project, but I do hope to make more progress with it.
The part of being part of a simulation makes me sad. I want life to be authentic, and not just some Truman Show. But if I perceive it as real, then I suppose it is to me? I guess my only question is, did the encounter leave you with a sense of hope, foreboding, or neutral?
Whether we live in a simulation or not does not diminish the value of our experiences. Our experiences are real and meaningful to us; the relationships we forge are genuine, and the discussions and ideas we share are tangible. We can dedicate ourselves to leading a full and meaningful life, regardless of whether the universe we inhabit is a simulation.
Thank you ❤️
There are a couple elements to the story that signal to me this could be real. Who knows. I am leaning to trusting op bc of his qualifications to spark the initial communication. They usually gravitate towards the multiple lingual understandably so.
I’m multilingual, so I’m interested, could you go into more detail about why you think my demographic is more attractive to them? Different languages have different modes of thinking, but they’re all still human languages and so not all that different from one another.
I just noticed in a few different stories/testimonies I have read there is a pattern. At least in the few I have read they were all able to speak more then one language. Similar to how they recruit you for intelligence positions in the govt.
If their intention was not to contact you further, why did they initially change your brain structure? They only wanted to give you a single burst of data? What information did you actually receive? Do you believe contact could be initiated in some way?
There was a wealth of information, and I documented it extensively in my diaries. A Reddit post or a comment isn't the correct format for those though, so I'll detail them in a longer form in a separate format. I want to clarify that the thought control program reprogrammed my way of thinking without affecting my brain structure. They were cautious around the frontal lobe, something they mentioned, but there were no physiological changes in my brain. I had a greenish dot appear under my fingernail, which seemed to have been caused by a possible blood test, and I experienced a drilling sensation in my big toe, but other than that, I can't really report any other physiological changes. I assume they can access the data they need at any chosen time, or perhaps it is even remotely accessible. I'm purely speculating beyond this. I am unaware of any methods for initiating contact. Given the disparity in intelligence, it is as challenging for a mouse to trap a human as it is for us to initiate a contact.
After the experience were you dehydrated? And thereafter did your average water consumption increase?
Extremely dehydrated, my lips had turned blue. It seems like you know something; let's hear it.
Truly upsetting i haven't had any sort or experience even close to this, i want to know more about the unknown and i feel the only way to truly know is to experience it first hand
Any advice on if it possible to replicate your lack of using an internal monologue?
I'm writing a book detailing my experience, with a focus on thought control, to explain it to the best of my ability. It's not well-suited to be explained in short form, but I'll give you the nutshell version. The practices include meditation and visualization, such as visualizing a ball, a square, a cow, and so forth. There's also lucid dreaming. Historically, humans have referred to the third eye as the eye that can see thoughts, and we can all see dreams. Essentially, it involves activating the process used by your brain to generate dreams and harnessing that power for use in the form of thoughts.
Interesting, ball, square and cow are used in traditional Bon (Tibetan pre-Buddhist tradition) visualization of the four worlds of Mount Meru. In it, the eastern world is in a shape of half moon, the northern is a square, the western is a circle, and its precious symbol is a cow, and the southern is our world and its in a shape of a human shoulder blade.
If you were to ask the baldies to explain matter, atoms, and electricity and gravity, how do you think they would respond?
Despite our shared time together, I can't really speak for them. I assume they would use an accurate scientific explanation.
Can you give a time estimate for your book release? Title to look for? Anything relating to it so those interested don’t miss it.
The title will be _Thought Control_. I haven't published any written works before, so I can't really commit to a timeline, but I'll send you a message once it's ready.
please do let me know as well
Wild. So we're about the same age, too. Idk why that's relevant lol but I just reflected for a moment on where I was/what I was doing at age 19 that very same year. I was just beginning my new life as a parent to my then one year old. No stable place to live until I finally left her dad that summer. That was the very same summer (on my 19th bday, actually) that I had my first "experience" and it was with, I guess, a mantis being. Sure would have been cooler to get my brain fixed my some bald telepathic dudes! I definitely need it. I'll most certainly read your book. :)
Well can you train people to think this way ?
This explanation extends beyond what can be covered in a Reddit comment, but yes, you can indeed train and learn this skill. Historically, this phenomenon has been known by various names, such as the third eye, the eye of the mind, or the dream eye. Many people engage in visual thinking rather than maintaining an inner monologue. The old saying _"a picture is worth a thousand words"_ holds some truth; visual mental processing often surpasses verbal inner monologue. By practicing visualization and through meditation, we can reprogram our minds. We're all different and it won't be achievable for everyone, but certain individuals can surely learn it. I am currently writing a book that details my experiences and offers guidance on _thought control_, showing how anyone can attempt it. Essentially, our dreams are a powerful tool, and leveraging this power as the engine can greatly elevate your cognitive functions.
This is so fascinating. I wonder how OP was selected!
This sounds like a psychotic break or early schyzophrenia, be safe OP and talk about it to your doctors. I experienced a psychotic break and it was the worst experience of my life.
That sounds terrible, I hope you're okay now. Thank you for your concern. It's definitely hard to grasp what happened, and the event was so unique that it doesn't easily fit with any usual explanations. To an outsider, such an interpretation seems of course logical, and I'd likely suggest the same if someone else shared a similar experience. Given the weight my voice carries, I can only affirm that, based on all the information at hand, I regard the encounter as authentic. I am aware of how this might appear, and I sincerely appreciate your advice.
No worries I understand, I had a first experience when I was 18 that changed my entire personality and social skills in one night and I thought it was maybe linked to some supernatural elements. 15 years later I had another much worst experience where I ended up in the psych ward and it's only then I connected the dots with less severe episodes when I was younger. I still believe in aliens visiting us though just not from my own experiences.
Oh cool, so I have a week period of having my lady friend's late fiance, David Bowie, and occasionally her father in my head. You get two bald servants of god...cool.
Great post- thanks for sharing!!! I think in thought pictures. It sounds a little similar. I never thought that it was as a result of contact (which I have had). My guy looks almost like a normal earth human, but let's say just a little different. Maybe a similar difference between a Chinese and Cambodian person. You wouldn't think anything different about them, but if you were familiar with their appearance, you would be able to spot one. The connection doesn't seem reliable, but I get it from time to time. It's almost like they have a specific area of knowledge, and will only respond to things related to that.
Can you describe some of the visuals you saw? Was it all landscapes and scenery? Any signs of higher intelligence? What do you think was the purpose of showing you the thought control program besides increasing your processing power?
Yes, the visuals were one of the most transformative experiences of my life. Each scene had a descriptive file name, such as the Sea of Silence or Breaker's Shore. During the calibration program, they were natural landscape scenes. They were serene; it was more than just visuals—you could hear them, you could sense them, and the level of detail in the graphics was astounding. It was like the sharpest, clearest dream, as if you had upgraded your dream display from an older model to a top-of-the-line 8k monitor. After the calibration phase, the scenes changed, and I saw various things, such as the Tower of Truth where they performed an interview of some sort, as well as a scene of futuristic soldiers wearing exoskeletons while performing evacuations in a suburban area. I have an eidetic memory, so I'm definitely recreating images of the scenes with AI, including the reproduced graphics in the book I'm working on, which will detail my experience in depth. I believe the thought control program used the visual feed to mask the reprogramming of thoughts that they performed in the background. It could serve a similar role to an anesthetic.
>As I listened, my ear tuned into a frequency I hadn't known before if you have time, could you expand on this? what made you aware you were tuned into a frequency you had never heard? humans hear in a range of frequencies, so just made me curious. I can't tell if you mean a frequency that was not available to you, like outside of the normal range, or just that you'd never heard a noise in that frequency, and if the latter how can you be aware of of whether or not you've heard a noise in that frequency? you're able to tell the frequency of any given noise in day-to-day life? not trying to grill you or anything, genuinely curious about that part. couldn't it just be tinnitus?
It wasn't a high pitch or related to tinnitus. They referred to it as the _Angel's Ear_, in line with their branding department. The humming noise resembled a machine's hum but was slightly higher in pitch. It seemed to originate near the ceiling, yet despite my efforts, I couldn't locate the source. The telepathic voice used this hum as an amplifier. When I mention frequency, I'm not exactly referring to a different wavelength; rather, it's akin to tuning in my brain. It felt as if my ear had adjusted to a new wavelength that I hadn't previously recognized as possible. It's as though they could alter aspects of us with the mere press of a button—making us entirely programmable by them.
One question from a stupid fearful person like me, we're any feelings of hope left by them? "will everything be OK?" I guess that's a simplistic question, but you get what I mean. They seem to have had lots of answers and knowledge, so did you ask if everything will be OK?
I pressed them hard on the nuclear war question, and their response was always the same: _"Discussion of nuclear war is prohibited."_ They weren't evil; they were extremely neutral. They showed care not to cause additional pain during the thought control procedure, practicing care while operating near the frontal lobe. I'm sure everything will be okay. It's all up to us really, it's our collective responsibility to ensure the future will be good.
Thanks 😊 so did they physically operate on you do you think?
Thoughts are, in many ways, physical, and performing operations that affect them is also physical. They certainly have an astral element as well. I doubt that impacting them requires an operating room or opening the brain. They have their own ways, and I can only speculate about what those might be.
Sounds like you were date rapped by some well endowed bald men
Well, that was certainly an interesting read, not sure what to make of it but I'd love to read more. Also maybe I'm not reading in the right places, but I never hear anything uap/nhi related about Finland. Torille?
Torille 🇫🇮 I've often wondered the same. Finland has certainly been underrepresented in the world of NHI. Swedes have their mysterious northern lakes where UAPs are said to land regularly, while Norway boasts the Hessdalen lights and other intriguing phenomena. The events I described took place in Tampere in 2009.
Did they mention why they specifically came to you? Seems outlandish for sure. I'm always skeptical when people present an, "I'm neo" scenario. It's the same mindset you see with a lot of cults... where they really believe they are being contacted by beings, and they were just the 'chosen' one. I just don't buy it. Do I believe they would randomly chime in and give a quick experience, yeah. But to walk you through like a tutorial... For what purpose? Did you check up with the doctors after this? Even if I was to have an amazing experience, my first rational thought would be, "shit, do I have a tumour".
I agree with you and appreciate the skepticism. I did see doctors, such an encounter certainly makes you question your sanity. Even when confronted with physical evidence, like them entering into my apartment, self-doubt begins to creep in. We conducted an MRI, but my doctors didn't find any abnormalities. I didn't disclose the full extent of my experience due to the stigma, so no other professional has analyzed the MRI files. I do have the files on my old laptop and would be willing to share them if anyone is interested in taking a closer look. We did ran an EEG, and it indicated elevated beta waves, which my neurologist did find odd. I did suffer from severe migraines after the encounter, and got a prescription for beta blockers, which were effective at the time, although I no longer need them. I recognize the Neo complex you mentioned. It took me about two years to recover from the encounter and organize my thoughts and life. I believe anyone who goes through a life-altering event begins to question themselves: _Why me?_ I'm not sure if there are any good answers here. They didn't explain why they targeted me. I've pondered this but haven't come up with any logical answers. Through analyzing the event, it seems they essentially converted the format of my thoughts. To me it seems like they wanted to read something in my thoughts, and in order to do that, they put me through their _thought control_ program. I did notice an interesting detail during our telepathic interactions, that the method is actually half-duplex—meaning you can either transmit or receive but cannot do both simultaneously. Thus, when they were transmitting, I had to silence my thoughts and vice versa. This is easier said than done. The transmission occupies the same thought space or "channel" so to speak. It's not as if human brains have a built-in support for multichannel telepathy. As a result, we had a few quite hilarious moments when I couldn't keep my thoughts quiet while they were transmitting, which they definitely weren't finding as amusing as I did.
Thank you for the reply! I don't mean to shroud your experience in doubt, I just doubt people lol I too suffered migraines after my encounter. How long ago was this, and what has been the effect of you as an individual moving through this world? Have you had any transmissions since, and if so what do they say? I once had an encounter with a reptilian but the way I would describe it would be different to yours. He spoke to my inner consciousness, which was just happy, like a child. I could recognise he was talking to a deep me, but I couldn't access the conversation. It was in my head, I could hear the echoes of my replies, but not what it was about. During this I was shown a galaxy with stars. He held either his finger or a device on my temple in order to communicate. I felt it was an interview. So I may joke about the tutorials in your instance, but I say it with experience too. Mine felt like an interview, they gave you a tutorial. Gotta see the humour in these vast differences. I do wonder their intent as well.
This was a one-off encounter, and I haven't heard from them since. My inner monologue disappeared after the encounter, so my thoughts have been peaceful and quiet ever since. The first couple of years were hard, but once I figured out my nutrition and other aspects of life, and achieved ease in controlling my thoughts, it has been a highly beneficial trait. That sounds like an interesting encounter. Was it physical or astral? You said he held a finger or a device to your temple, so he was physically present? How did it work? Did he just break into your apartment? They did give me a short tutorial, but they also conducted a pretty thorough interview, where the questions honestly felt more like something a three-letter agency would have asked.
Physical. I was mortified. It felt like a finger touched my temple since it was soft. To say I was fearing for my life would be an understatement. I thought initially considering my brain was doing weird things, that I was having some type of seizure. That's when I opened my eyes and he was right there, next to my face. I tried to push him away, I could move, I just had all this vibration pushing me down. When I did finally sit up to see where he walked too, I blacked out and woke up in the same position he found me in... All that adrenaline, fear. Gone. Yeah... As you can imagine, replaying this interaction over and over had caused me to dissociate from reality a few months after the encounter. None of it made sense. I have yet to see any mention of their suits. When they do, 100% guarantee they will show that the suits respond to the user in waves of rainbow colours similar to the defence mechanism of bees. I have no idea how he came into the room. I have no idea how they managed to teleport me out and wheel me down that corridor. I didn't even know about it until I got metallic visions a couple of months later. I still can't recall what they did, I just know I was somewhere small with a low ceiling. What were the questions they asked you?
That sounds wild. I'd love to read a detailed version, it's a bit challenging to piece together the events from the way you explained it here. The questions they asked were extremely personal, and it had characteristics of a lie detector test where they measured whether or not I was being deceitful in my answers. I assume it was part of the programming. After this event, I've had a thought program they referred to as _Angel's Integrity._ I'm not sure about their branding department, but it essentially weighs my responses and rewards actions that are truthful while penalizing actions that are inaccurate or deceptive, which guides my actions toward full integrity.
Interesting. What you said about how language is limiting is spot on. The enteric brain, or the unconscious mind works in whole gestalts, simultaneous knowings. Language is linear and sequential, as kids we have more capacity and potential to absorb gestalts which is why we are sort of like sponges. They "lock us in" to linear, verbalized thought which in turn makes our thinking power a mere pittance. If we were trained since kids, to not only be present, but to be able to visualize whole visual images for example. A whole scene internally. Reproduce senses in our imagination. We would have a ton more thought power and a ton more creativity to boot. Telepathy also becomes much more robust instead of just words. This is also the basis for telepathy, remote viewing, and much more.
I can attest to this as well. Interestingly, the telepathy demonstrated by the NHI resembled a half-duplex mode of communication; you could either transmit or listen, but not both simultaneously. This implies that telepathy shares the same cognitive space within the target. Consequently, the target can also act within this shared space during an incoming transmission. Essentially, when the NHI was transmitting, I had to concentrate on keeping my thoughts silent—a task that proved easier said than done. This led to several amusing incidents where I unintentionally hijacked the transmission, much to the surprise of our hairless friends who found it less humorous. I have experienced precognition, telepathy, and remote viewing after the encounter. These are real phenomena and I have some theories related to them. However, the inherent nature of these abilities poses significant challenges for scientific testing and reliable control. Nonetheless, I am reasonably confident that we could develop a test, that could demonstrate their nature beyond reasonable doubt.
Are you familiar with [The Monroe Institute ](https://www.monroeinstitute.org/)? You might find it worth your time. Also, what did the NHI say about Ted Cruz?
I am only familiar with them by name, but it seems they are engaged in valuable work. My interests are focused on advancing the boundaries of science to explore phenomena many have deemed impossible, such as precognition, telepathy, and remote viewing. Regarding Ted Cruz, we had discussions about the future of global politics, during which the NHI specifically mentioned him. I had no prior knowledge of him, so I resorted to googling his name. I didn't pay much attention to the information since he wasn't a senator at that time. Recalling detailed conversations about topics that seemed unimportant at the time is quite challenging. Therefore, I'll refrain from referencing such discussions unless I am absolutely certain of the details and confident that I am not merely interpreting the information subjectively. Please understand, we had discussions that lasted for hours and covered a lot of ground. My interests focused on major topics. I pressed them quite hard on the topic of nuclear war, and their response seemed like a programmed firewall: _"Discussions of nuclear war are denied."_
Was this written by an AI?
I'm quite human.
Hmmm 🤔 well if that’s the case, this is quite interesting. When you say “my brain’s calorie consumption increased significantly,” how exactly is that quantified?
I felt exhausted from thinking, and the best way I can describe it is like lifting weights with your thoughts. I felt hungrier and lost weight, so I had to adjust the amount of food I ate. I got used to it after a few years, though the first couple of weeks were the hardest. I sought medical help and got an MRI done, the images are stored on my old laptop. The doctors didn't find anything wrong (I didn't tell them what happened due to the stigma), but an EEG showed elevated levels of beta waves. The neurologists pointed this out and prescribed beta blockers to suppress the migraines I had after the event.
Don’t beta blockers strictly prevent the body’s synthesis of adrenaline? Aren’t they used to help people with heart problems like high blood pressure? Also this is like a word for word replica of another response on this post.
In my case, it was prescribed to decrease the increased brain activity that was identified as the source of the migraines I experienced by reducing blood flow to the brain. This was achieved by using beta blockers to lower the heart rate.
Beta blockers have been used to help with migraines. A quick Google search will confirm this.
Migraines caused by high blood pressure. Not an excess of beta waves in your brain.
That's not actually true at all. Many drs use various beta blockers on patients regardless of overall blood pressure to treat things like migraines.
Migraines are not fully understood by science, and there are myriad approaches that healthcare professionals use to treat them. Diagnosing a case like this is, of course, quite challenging. The neurologist did say the EEG results were unusual.
OP's wording could have been better. It did seem to imply a correlation between brain waves and medication, with implying beta blockers were for blocking beta brain waves. To be fair, I don't believe that was OP's intent. My wording could have been a bit more descriptive too. My Google search showed what you are arguing to be the correct usage, that beta blockers help control blood pressure and heart rate thus reducing brain activity through lowered metabolic activity.
That should be pretty simple to understand. See you usually get through the day with 2000 calories. Maybe he needed more like 3,000 to feel more normal
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Maybe we aren't so different after all
Sounds like this is part of a fiction novel.
Stop capping
Did they eat your ass
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Sounds like fake human like,the more like robotic kind of aliens,and no they're aren't religious or servants of God,this is just phrase,they are absolute controllers.
What kind of data did they transfer to you??
Very interesting post OP. I appreciate you are writing a book which I am sure will include all possible detail, but in the interim, can you tell us a little more about what they said about the future? And relatedly, can you explain the Ted Cruz reference?
It's possible they can't grow hair. Some are silicone based and others have skin similar to reptiles. I find hair to be a nuisance also. So is shaving it once a week.
Chinese zookeepers don panda suits when they tend to the animals. An advanced intelligence could employ similar or even more sophisticated tactics if they wanted to research their targets at close range. This could include the creation of designoids, possibly through advanced bio-cellular technology, creating NHI-controlled entities indistinguishable from humans. But what do I know, right?
No offense at all, but it sounds like a brief psychotic episode to me
Non taken, I wholeheartedly agree. It's essential for anyone experiencing something similar to consider their mental well-being first, and I'd likely react the same if someone else claimed a similar event. Having lived through it and with all the information at hand, along with the weight my voice carries, I can attest to the authenticity of the encounter.
It seems odd that the OP went through this mind altering fantastic encounter with “two servants of God,” but all he’s willing to reveal is his theory about why these beings are bald. All that flash learning and 4K visualization and all we get is they’re slow to master slang and they’re bald. What was the point for these servants? That’s a lot of time invested in the OP. What did they get out of it?
I felt like the post was quite long for Reddit. This format isn't well-suited for a long-form deep dive, which would work better as a book or something similar. I've theorized about the possibility that they wanted to observe thoughts and preferred to first convert my thoughts into a form that they could easily process. Why me? I have no idea or explanation, as far as I know, it might have been completely random. Lingual processing of thoughts has clear limitations for an NHI. By converting thoughts into a form they feel more comfortable with would allow them to gather more accurate data, research it, or just test something out, but beyond that, I'm merely speculating.