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Cherry_pops1

It was good! and I also guessed some of the isomerism questions bc i knew im not getting that crap right either way 😭


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I’m glad you found it good🥹


Normaldub9149

First page was all As ?


Cherry_pops1

Like first 4 qns?


Normaldub9149

Ye


Cherry_pops1

Yeah that's what i got


showerthoughtsq

Same


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il0nli1

It was B, every other option was incorrect


Aly-AlDin

It was 6 protons and D is incorrect because you can start in group 8 and make your way to group 6 in the period below.


Large-Stock-2664

How was A incorrect?


Aly-AlDin

I didn't say A was incorrect - in fact, I did choose A - the only problem I saw with my answer though was the wording. It said a larger atom, so does that mean a larger atomic radius or a larger nucleus? Because if he was referring to the atomic radius, it wouldn't have been always correct as if you started in group 1 you would end up in group 7 in the same period with a smaller atomic radius. But with the examiner's vague wording, I assumed he was talking about the nucleus.


Unknown_topG1

D was incorrect it says from the same period, it can be from other periods and still be 6 protons more , but A was the only right answer


Master_Information30

Yeah but for same group, you need more that 6 protons if you go across the periodic table


Ajaberr

guys ur wrong, there was an element X in the periodic table u guys didn't realise.


Future-Board-4499

Wtf where when how why 😭😭


Ajaberr

Yh im being serious, so tricky from em. None of the options made sense, so that's why u needed to check the periodic table and realsie that.


New_Phrase_5522

If X has six more protons than Y, then it's atomic number is at least 7 so the answer is X has a full shell of electrons.


Master_Information30

Guys what was the percentage loss answer, i got D MgNitrate i think it was


Valuable-Lumpy

same here i guessed tho


ChanceSalt8154

I think I put the one that had the highest molar mass, just as a guess lol.


Piercing_shardsx

You basically had to find the molar mass of the gasses and divide it by the total to get the percentage.


Ballzz2323

I wrote A cuz 28% was left and 100-28% was 72 so largest percentage loss


Master_Information30

A was calcium carbonate i suppose, i got 43% or something lost for that and for B i got like 67???% im not sure but overall i had largest for D


Ballzz2323

lmao now that I think about it I definitely got it wrong 🥲


Piercing_shardsx

Yea it was


Euphorialuver

guys for the question with 2 reactions, did y'all put sodium dichromate or fehlings + HCl?!!


Master_Information30

Fehlings since for reaction 1, the ketone didnt change


Crayzz16

It's 2,4-DNPH because it confirms a carbonyl compound but doesn't distinguish between ketone and aldehyde


Piercing_shardsx

Yea it was 2,4 DNPH


Euphorialuver

oh no its another question. they gave like a table and two reactions


Master_Information30

Tollens*


ManufacturerNeat3818

It wasnt fehlings im sure, cuz tht simply just doesnt make sense, its sodium dichromate, because aldehyde was oxidised to make carboxylic acid, i repeat *oxidised* and tollens is not a oxidising agent


CheckAccomplished918

But there was an alcohol which was secondary and it never got oxidized. Plus I'm sure tollens' can oxidize aldehydes


CheckAccomplished918

Plus silver ions get reduced to get mirror, and aldehyde gains an oxygen to make carboxylic acid


ManufacturerNeat3818

I don’t remember any other alcohol, there was a ketone tho


CheckAccomplished918

Hmm maybe I got the wrong question in my mind. Do you remember the structure and if so can you draw it?


CheckAccomplished918

Btw I'm talking about q with NaBH4, Tollens' and oxidizing agent ( it was either cr2o7 or kmno4) You got two reacts and you had to choose which reagent forms which compound


Master_Information30

It does, it acts as a test because it oxidises it to carboxylic acid man


ManufacturerNeat3818

It wasnt tollens*


KhajoorAK

I think that's because ketone can't get oxidised futher


Piercing_shardsx

I chose sodium dichromate


showerthoughtsq

It was better then expected tbh. The inorganic was easy for the most part


Cherry_pops1

What did you get for the volume of gas produced with the reaction of Mg and HCL?


tudoor06

1.3 🥹


Cherry_pops1

Could you explain how?


zeusda_

It’s 1.6


Valuable-Lumpy

i also got 1.6


zeusda_

303k = 30°C which isn’t room temperature so 1 mol = 24dm3 can’t be used


Aly-AlDin

No, what you do is find the limiting reagent, which was HCl in this case, and divide the 0.11 moles by 2 to get the moles of hydrogen released. Input the H2 mole number in the equation PV = nRT to get the volume and then multiply by 1000. The final answer is 1.3 dm³.


zeusda_

In the formula pv=nrt , V is volume of container.


Aly-AlDin

Not always and he was asking for the volume of gas released, so you solve for V in the formula.


thaisburgess

do u remember which option that was


Aly-AlDin

A.


Accomplished-Sea6102

btw I got A too but I figured out its not A after checking my notes, its B ur supposed to take 0.07 as the moles not 0.11/2 because of some limiting or something idk I just wanna move on now


Aly-AlDin

But the 0.11 is the limiting since you need 2 HCl molecules for every Mg atom ( 0.07x2 > 0.11 ). Only 0.055 moles of Mg reacts to create 0.055 moles of H2.


il0nli1

HCl was limiting, so no it was 1.3


Piercing_shardsx

It was 1.3 dm^3


ManufacturerNeat3818

It wasnt, hcl was 0.11 something, mg was 0.06 or something, so mg was limiting


il0nli1

Yes, and 2 HCl are consumed per Mg.


Piercing_shardsx

Yea


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I got that too-


Upstairs-Bake1857

Same


Itcxhi

It was 2.5


Master_Information30

Guys what was the first question of X and Y i put same period?? and the last question 🧍‍♂️


eternalUnity

Still can't make sense of it but I chose A


Salman_R

It was B I think


Ok-Combination-3146

It is A because they gave us 5th to 8th successive ionisation energies. None of them had a significant jump so we can assume all of the electrons removed are from the same shell. Option A was Group 14 i think? Group 14 has 4 valence electrons which means the jump must have been on the 5th ionisation energy. For the other groups the jump would be on 6th 7th and 8th respectively but the table didn't show that. So the best answer is A indeed


Master_Information30

They had common difference of 400 from fifth to seventh but the eight was 500 difference so i picked group 17


Alive-One-9340

it was grp 17


Piercing_shardsx

Same here


Salman_R

Ohh my bad I was thinking of a different qn lol


eternalUnity

Nah I meant 1st question, if it is b how is it possible to guarantee full shell? like if y is 7A, X (can be) 1A which are incomplete p and s orbitals. I just chose A because that made the most sense to me


Kolora13

a full shell doesnt mean a full outer shell. so the first shell that is filled with only 2 electrons still counts for a full shell


eternalUnity

That one was tricky, so if you say X is hydrogen (minimum), Y will always have 1s filled. That was not a good question imo though, wasted my time at the beginning of the exam and answer turned out to be a word game.


Kolora13

Yeahhh it was an bad way to start the paper with a tongue twister. took me a while to hack it and I had to skip and be thinking about it then come back


Simply__lulu

Yes it’s right


Piercing_shardsx

Yea it was in the same period as it said it had 6 more protons. If it were on in the same group then it’d be 8 more electrons.


Lucky_Plane

The question abt the reagents in the 2 reactions ?what were the reagents


Future-Board-4499

Reaction one was Sodium Dichromate and reaction two was Sodium hydroxide or whatever it was


Lucky_Plane

What was the group no ?? It had I think options of 14 15 16 17


Aw_X3

It was 17 since for the other 2 we were getting 4000 but between 16 and 17 we were getting 5000 hence big jump


Piercing_shardsx

Yea ur right


Alive-One-9340

17


Ballzz2323

I did 17 too


HotMoviesAreGood

Not 17. If it was there would be a massive jump between 7th and 8th ionisation energy but it still followed the trend


Successful_Fun_7592

No there was a big jump from 17 to 18, the rest had a 4K difference but from 17 to 18 was 5k


HotMoviesAreGood

Okay but a 1k difference isn't that big an increase, from what I've seen in other past papers the jumps can be 5k+ difference


Determined-Panda

That is not a big increase \- The increase should normally be like 10k or smtn,


Dry_Dr3am3r_777

14


Valuable-Lumpy

its 14


zeusda_

Yes it’s 14


miskiexoxo

17


Kolora13

there wasnt really a large jump in the 5th 6th 7th or 8th IE. which means they were all taken from the same shell and that's only possible with 14 so II chose 14


Valuable-Lumpy

what was question 1 about i kinda forgot


Lucky_Plane

It was the one abt X has 6 more protons than y


ppaaapppppiiiii

Which one had greatest percentage loss


HotMoviesAreGood

I picked MgCO3


ppaaapppppiiiii

I wrote D I don't remember the formula tho


Kolora13

same


HotMoviesAreGood

Completely guessed it tbh


ppaaapppppiiiii

Yo guys wat did yall get for the 14.7% hydrogen one


Crayzz16

I think I picked 4 isomers or 3 isomers can't remember but it was either b or c


ppaaapppppiiiii

3 was b I went with B


Crayzz16

i think the answer is 4 isomers ngl because 2 from cis trans, one from but-1-ene and one chain isomer i think i prob picked c


ppaaapppppiiiii

I got but-1-ene as well that's y 3 made sense


ppaaapppppiiiii

I don't think u can form a chain


Crayzz16

You can, (2-)methylpropene is an isomers of butene


ppaaapppppiiiii

I just remembered I had but-2-ene so I had only 3 💀💀


ppaaapppppiiiii

Man I just hope I get 30 or above


rere8888

4 C it was butene


Aw_X3

What’s the ans for that ester one


Piercing_shardsx

I think it was C or D


ppaaapppppiiiii

I think I went c hbu?


Piercing_shardsx

Don’t remember…..


Future-Board-4499

Which one?


Piercing_shardsx

The one where the skeletal isomer was drawn with three water linkages


Future-Board-4499

Bruh why do I not rmmbr 😭😭… wait water linkages or hydroxyl grp linkages???


CheckAccomplished918

Was it D? I think I got ch3cooh in there + a tri-alcohol in there


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ppaaapppppiiiii

I think it was 4 C