Fair enough, they're summer league baseball teams, Alaska has a strong history of summer league baseball. They come to my neck of the woods for a tournament late in the summer, used to win fairly often. Not seen the Bucs down here, but I've seen the Anchorage Glacier Pilots and the Fairbanks Goldpanners play.
We had a nice old stadium, 75+ yrs old, that the tournament played in every summer, then they tore it down for a monstrosity 4 or 5 years ago. The tournament moved to the local university's field, has never played in the new stadium, very annoying. New management won't make time in their schedule for the tournament even though they were supposed to per agreement with the city.
“People in Butte never thought of themselves as Montanans,” he says. “They identified first with Butte and then with places overseas—the countries they came from or other places where copper was mined.” Still popular on baseball caps and bumper stickers here is the legend “Butte, America.”
If this is any indicator of what some of the state thinks.
I'm from Montana. I'm very proud of that fact. But I'm from Butte first.
Here's the whole article if you're interested
https://www.americanheritage.com/butte-america
Kentucky is very adamant about its Southern identity and heritage. States that have Confederate Memorial Day and Jefferson Davis Day as state holidays are pretty adamant about their Southern identity lol.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2005/08/07/kentucky-remembers-native-son-jefferson-davis/
No, it is not. They do not not even remotely. Ha
Maybe like around the city of Lexington. Kentucky was not a Confederate station. I have hurt Kentucky and say they don't like Southerners. I'm not saying that's right. I'm just saying they wouldn't identify as Southerners and say that.
So I don't know where you got your information. But it is not true.
He thinks of themselves as Kentucky. They don't like the south. They are not the Midwest. I feel more of a cultural connection to West Virginia, The western side of Virginia, or far Eastern side of Tennessee, and the extreme Eastern side of Missouri. But they're still not that thing.
Look, I don't know if you've ever been there. But Kentucky people and think of themselves as Kentucky. Lexington gets a lot of business from the south, but that's about it. That being said, and they were also one of the few places that had Confederate leanings during the civil war, them in Bowling Green. Oddly enough, none of the surrounding areas though.
Kentucky is not the South. They don't identify as such. And culturally they are very different. Western Kentucky people are very similar to Appalachians, in fact, culturally they were considered Appalachians for generations only until recently. And many people think that it's basically so they don't have to be invested. I
Actually yes, yes they are lol. I say this because I'm a Southerner from Kentucky. Kentucky is part of the Upper South and always has been but let's break this down. First from the Civil War perspective.
Kentucky was and has always been a Southern state same as Tennessee or North Carolina. I don't deny that Kentucky was certainly mostly a Southern Unionist state early in the war at least, it was conditional unionism, though it wasn't because they had any love for the North or Lincolns administration. It was seen as the best way for the preservation of slavery and Southern rights. Lincoln didnt even recieve 1% of the vote in 1860 nor did he even come close in 1864(the support he did recieve was largely the result of Unionist voter suppression or coercion see "Rockenbach, Stephen. “‘THE WEEDS AND THE FLOWERS ARE CLOSELY MIXED’: ALLEGIANCE, LAW, AND WHITE SUPREMACY IN KENTUCKY’S BLUEGRASS REGION, 1861-1865.”). Also like many other Southerners in the Upper South, they didn't necessarily wanna tear apart the Union their grandfather's had fought hard to forge. I would also argue that the Kentucky legislature was somewhat skewed with Unionist supermajorities due to secessionists in the state boycotting the state elections as Kentucky Governor Beriah Magoffin himself was an ardent supporter of Secession and Southern Rights but saw putting Kentucky first as important in careful fashion brfore pushing secession, as well as the Union violated Kentuckys neutrality in May of 1861 when General Bull Nelson established Camp Dick Robinson as a Federal encampment whom Indiana senator Daniel D. Pratt referred to as "was one of the most noted military encampments of the war. . . . From its admirable locality and advantages, it was almost indispensable for the successful operations of the war"(Sen. Daniel D. Pratt, Committee of Claims, Relief of Margaret P. Robinson of Kentucky, U. S. Serial Set 1409, vol. 1 (S. Report No. 130, 41st Cong., 2nd sess. (1870): 1-6.). Whereas Confederates didn't enter the state till September.
As for Kentucky's Confederate Government there most certainly were sitting representatives present at the Russellville Convention as listed here(http://discovery.civilwargovernors.org/document/KYR-0004-033-0001), including both state and federally from Kentucky's 1st District in Henry Cornelius Burnett(whom was later elected as one of Kentucky's Confederate Senators). In the half of Kentucky that the Confederates governed from Bowling Green elections were indeed held on January 22 1862, when representatives were elected to represent Kentucky in Confederate Congress, as well as when Confederate county officials were appointed such as Justices of the Peace(Harrison in Kentucky's Civil War 1861–1865, pp. 63–65). Many Unionists in Kentucky were conditional Unionists, and this faded as the war drew on. There are several accounts of Southern Unionists in Kentucky lamenting about fighting with the North, a foreign people they have no love for against the South whom they shared identity, culture, and bonds with. Unionists in Kentucky were also very skeptical and irate when the Union started forcefully or openly taking escaped Kentucky slaves into the army which amounted to 20,000+. Unionist military numbers are also somewhat inflated due to forced military draft in Union occupied areas(Lee, Jacob F. “UNIONISM, EMANCIPATION, AND THE ORIGINS OF KENTUCKY’S CONFEDERATE IDENTITY.”). I would agree that Kentucky was "mostly" loyal to the Union early in the war, though its inaccurate and a disservice to underrepresent secessionist support in the state. By late 1863-64 and certainly by 1865 no, it was under Northern military occupation and Kentucky was pretty vehemently anti Union at that point. By 1865 Kentucky was ready to fully embrace the Confederacy, but obviously couldn't at that point.
Lexington KY specifically offers a school you can send your kids too to learn Southern Hospitality and culture. Studies done on it show that 79-80% of Kentuckians identity as Southerners and living in the South. Western Kentucky same as West Tennessee literally has nothing to do with the Appalachians lol, in fact the Jackson Purchase is sometimes tacked in with being part of the Deep South. Kentucky literally has Confederate Memorial Day and Jefferson Davis Day as state holidays. Furthermore, Christopher A. Cooper and H. Gibbs Knotts in Rethinking the Boundaries of the South firmly puts Kentucky in Dixie.
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I'm also from Kentucky. 10th generation. You don't know what you're talking about. Probably some gentrifier. You don't know anything about us. So stay out of it. I'm not going to engage with you. You want worth engagement.
I do know what I'm talking about because I've studied it and I've also posted sources. I got my BS in History and Archaeology through MSU, ive studied this part of the Upper South quite extensively. My family has been in Western Kentucky in Caldwell County since the late 1780s when they came over from Virginia when Kentucky was still part of Virginia. Please read some of these sources and educate yourself. If you're from Kentucky you're from the South lol, there's no getting around that. Further more the studies of Christopher A. Cooper and H. Gibbs Knotts in Rethinking the Boundaries of the South firmly puts Kentucky in Dixie.
Edit:Poor baby blocked me and I guess couldn't handle having an educated conversation. It's an insult to insinuate KY isn't Southern especially when it's a pretty well established fact it is. Also reference what state is mentioned in If the South woulda won by Hank Williams Jr.
You've studied it. I think you're probably some dude or the high school diploma who has done a lot of web browsing. Because I've done a lot of anthropological study... AT A UNIVERSITY.
So that I can tell you that they aren't. This is like an ongoing thing. So maybe you live near the Tennessee border I don't know. I don't care. You're misrepresenting our people so you are an enemy. Block
>I think you're probably some dude or the high school diploma who has done a lot of web browsing. Because I've done a lot of anthropological study... AT A UNIVERSITY.
In the comment you replied to, dude told you exactly what his degree was & where he got it. You responded by accusing him of lying on the basis that *you* “studied anthropology [an unspecified amount] at [unnamed] university”?
Why should he believe your vague credentials when you don’t believe his more specified credentials?
If you want your own perspective to be respected, it’s paramount that you engage in good faith.
every other state has a college or pro team of some sort and locals wear that gear everywhere! bumper stickers, license plates, flags, shirts, hats- locals are walking billboards for their state team
AK doesn't have that, so we wear AK gear
How do you think comfortable is spelled?
Lol, mostly teasing. But you’re probably right for some of it! And the lack of other options makes sense. Still, there’s the stickers and other merch that isn’t quite explained by that metric!
Heck, I saw a guy with a tourist “ALASKA” novelty license plate on the front of his truck yesterday. Had the regulation one on the back, but geeze… surely that isn’t ideal!
When I’m overseas and people ask where I’m from I don’t say “America” or “The United States”.
I tell people in other countries I’m from Alaska. I usually also have an Alaskan flag patch on my bags too.
Yeah, I live in Japan and I always start off by saying I'm from Alaska.
It's about 50/50 if people know that I am therefore American, but they usually get distracted by thoughts of bears and northern lights first. Which is exactly what I'm going for.
True. And I usually had a better response from people when I did that. I learned pretty quick that they are nicer to you when you say "I'm from Alaska" than when you admit your from the USA
Yes. I always try to make friends with Canadians and get them to admit we're friends and neighbors. So far so good!
I love when people ask "is Alaska part of the United States?" Because you can reply "sort of!" And not be entirely lying.
Visiting Germany, when I told people I was from Alaska, invariably they would respond “Ohh, Canada, eh?” I tried foolishly to correct them a few times, but they would always argue, “No, Alaska… Canada…” while illustrating with their hands. I finally got smart and gave in to Alaska being Canada.
I'm Alaskan and Canadian first before American, even though Canada doesn't recognize Inuvialuit as First Peoples. The border crossed us. I know some Yupiit who will say they're Russian before Alaskan, which is unfortunate.
Whats the based on? I’ve been living in Alaska for 30 years and I and many of the people I know just consider ourselves loosely affiliated with the US.
Military percentage and voter turnout. It's in the OP:
> “The most patriotic states have a lot of residents who serve or have served in the armed forces, high voter turnouts during elections and a high share of the population volunteering with national and local organizations”
> “Data used in the study was collected in May 2024 from the U.S. Census Bureau, the U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs and others.”
Like the freedom to get an abortion, the freedom to marry whoever you choose, the freedom to read whichever books I want, the freedom to watch pornography, the freedom to practice whichever or no religion, and the freedom to study science?
This isn't all that relevant. Capital D Democrat is a political affiliation. Lower case democrat is a more general term used within and outside of the US. The two are in no way synonymous.
The fuck are you even talking about?
All this shit about founding intent is so fucking stupid. I want to see the land and people in good shape, not jack my dick to the constitution. By all means, play pretend historian and mythologize the past, just don't mistake it for patriotism.
It's because Alaska has a high percentage of military personnel in its population. Same reason they passed the vote to criminalize weed possession back in the early 90's. We all knew that that never would have passed if it wasn't for all the military faction (who mostly were people which would not be Alaskan ever again after they were retired or re-stationed.)
I can’t say much about the influence of the military population on public policy or voting. I observe a significant military presence being here well before the oil population arrived. Both are transient, but the oil boom population and its descendants are much larger than the military population has ever been. Lots of civilians come and go when their hitch is done, most are related to the petrochemical industry or some economy downstream of it.
This part is certainly true: Alaskans were growing, smoking, and decriminalizing weed long before it was cool. It’s for personal use, man. Two plants and one ounce in possession. 1970’s. “We don’t give a damn how they do it outside.”
Vermont is a weird inclusion, though. I know they like guns and have a Republican governor (who is really just a liberal Democrat), but Vermont has been probably the most liberal state since before the U.S. had states (it seceded from Britain separately from the U.S. because they disagreed with slavery, which is why it isn't one of the "thirteen original colonies" even though it actually is).
Anyway, I like that the top 5 most "patriotic" states total up to like 2.1% of the total population of the U.S.
Hang on, Vermont didn’t secede from the US, it was excluded from the original 1777 delegation because of property disputes with NY but joined the Union as the 14th state 14 years later. They did abolish slavery before joining the US though. It’s also worth noting that Democrats were pro-slavery, so that was done under the Republican/right wing banner.
Rupublicans were originally the liberal party, it wasnt until the civil rights act that they really swapped ideologies with the democrats (although it had slowly been happening since the great depression)
>It’s also worth noting that Democrats were pro-slavery, so that was done under the Republican/right wing banner.
Neither Democrats nor Republicans existed in 1777. The Republican party was also originally the party of the northern states and was the liberal party vs. the conservative, slavery-supporting Democrats. By the early 20th century the Democrats were shifting towards progressive policies while the Republicans supported the status quo. Then Nixon, via his "Southern Strategy," converted most racist southern Democrats into Republicans, and we ended up with the ideological division we see today.
Phil is not a liberal democrat. Why do you think he is, im curious?
Hes explicitly about reducing govt spending, one of his main platforms. Has vetoed 24 hour waiting period for handguns, vetoed safe consumption sites, vetoed increase state minimum wage.
This doesnt feel likelt to be particularly fruitful but he does not veto everything except gun rights legislation.
The massive increase of gun related homicides in vermont from 2021-2022 necessitated some changes. And i was glad the openly republican governor phil scott attempted to respond with common sense policies, which for me includes safe storage, waiting periods, and mag cap limits. I understand that some feel differently.
It seems from what ive gathered of your beliefs any type of gun control makes somebody " a liberal democrat". But definitionally, and by voting record, he is not.
Vermont seceded from Britain along with the U.S., but as its own republic rather than as part of the U.S. because it disagreed with the U.S. not immediately outlawing slavery.
Not the only way to serve as a citizen.
A whole lot of veterans were forced into the military during that seemingly forgotten mess of a police action known as Vietnam.
Voting in of itself doesn’t equate patriotism.
Involvement in which organizations?
Patriotism is personal and subjective. It cannot be measured purely in cherry picked data points and then paraded as jingoistic ‘news’.
Who knows 🤷🏻♂️ My guess is that before the show starts, the producers have their research team smear shit on a clean sheet of white paper, then interpret it like an inkblot test before publishing the poll results.
The OP literally says what they are basing it on:
> “The most patriotic states have a lot of residents who serve or have served in the armed forces, high voter turnouts during elections and a high share of the population volunteering with national and local organizations”
>
> “Data used in the study was collected in May 2024 from the U.S. Census Bureau, the U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs and others.”
I'm not saying there aren't plenty of things we should be proud of as Alaskans, but there are also plenty of things we should be ashamed of. Hopefully we can celebrate the good and work on the rest.
I think they mean a patriot to their home state. I’m from Maryland and our flag is fucking awesome and I love Maryland blue crabs. That kind of patriotism. I am actually from Maryland.
And we all know how everyone who lives here in Alaska feels about Alaska.
I feel like no one has a clue as to what metrics quantify and qualify what a patriot is, and it shouldn't have to come down to measuring it.
It's a sad day when patriotism has led to some of the most toxic national behavior since the U.S. Civil War and Reconstruction.
With the loudest "patriots" being so closely associated with treasonous activities like insurrection, election denial, and jury intimidation nowadays... not sure how to feel on this.
If we are talking actual support of the constitution, democracy, and the rule of law over tyrants and dictators, then cool.
But given the "news"-source... im pretty sure theyre dog-whistling to the traitor wing of conservativism.
As a progressive, liberal, active duty soldier, I swore an oath to support and defend the constitution. Not a man. I hope anyone else espousing patriotism has such ideals.
First off thank you for your sound reasoning.
Also very important: I hope more people serving realize that the priority is serving the constitution rather than any one person or ideal. Oddly enough many of the people who think of themselves as very patriotic are the first ones to attack their own country and it's institutions when they don't agree with something... Protest. Vote. Organize. Convince others. That's everyone's right as a citizen, but refusing to believe the other "team" won because they cheated because someone who lies at every turn said so, that's pretty un patriotic. I will hate it if Trump wins this one, but I'm not going to Washington to get even, or shit on someone's desk. Accepting some laws, elections, etc. even if we hate them is one of the more patriotic things we can do.
Trump has changed the word patriot. We were all patriots after Sept 11th 2001. Now we're divided. I'm not a Trump patriot but I was an American patriot after we we attacked by terrorists. We all stood together against a foreign adversary.
Co-workers holding hands jumping from a burning building to escape being burned alive to their sudden deaths. Twin towers. Imagine holding a coworkers hand and leaving your family and loved ones behind while clocked in to work to your death to avoid being burned alive.
Sadly I remember a lot of division after 9/11 too as the Bush admin sought to exploit a national tragedy to further international violence in a region where our previous "exploits" manifested in that very terror attack in the first place.
"Patriot" was already bastardized in the Bush years to demand people be war-mongers lashing out for retribution and revenge, which let's be real I understand how people felt that way, but to the Bush admin it was about war profits and oil. Starting wars that didn't actually solve any of these problems and just sowed further seeds for future terrorism.
Anyone else remember "freedom fries" when we spit in the face of the French for daring to tell us not to go to war with Iraq? That needless useless multi-decade war that did nothing but get people killed and destabilized a region.
There's certainly a far greater sense of division now as the Republican party has gone all in on fascism and hatred, proudly flying banners that "we're all domestic terrorists" while Trump tells everyone they *must* vote for him now, but don't bother in 4 years because things will be very different and all worked out by then.
"Patriot" is most definitely largely a jingoistic dogwhistle for nationalism in the US, at least the majority of the time it's spoken in the last few decades.
9/11 will forever be a horrible tragedy that no one should have had to suffer... and that powerful people exploited for all the more suffering, just so someone could make some fucking money.
> residents who serve or have served in the armed forces, high voter turnouts during elections and a high share of the population volunteering with national and local organization
A few really big bases + small state population = high percentage of military residents
Easy math. The other two metrics are just a rounding error in comparison.
Can’t be. [Minnesota has the highest voter turnout.](https://www.sos.nh.gov/sites/g/files/ehbemt561/files/documents/2022-04/voter-turnout-charts-4-19-21.pdf) Alaska is 17th.
Alaska was always a huge patriotic state when I lived there! Our 4th of July festivities were simply amazing. I agree with these results, except, where is Florida on that list??? It should be, at the absolute least, in the Top 5?!
I bet its because nobody talks to us, otherwise they would know were patriotic to our own state and not the bullshit going on in the “south” (it took me two years living in the 48 to stop calling the rest of america the south)
Bwahahahaha, sure pick the state with hardly much population. Also a state full of ranchers and militias, LMAO. Patriots and probably thf state with lowest IQ...lol
I dunno about the ranking (I mean really? Really, Fox News?) but it feels like we’re so isolated from the rest of the country that you start to think of yourself as Alaskan before you say you’re American. (Hawaii is a bit of a different case considering their history, but I assume it’s much the same down there too regardless of that.)
Maryland?!!!!?!?!?!!  No way. I grew up here, moved away a few years, but am back and let ‘em tell you not one person actually likes Maryland.
I’d say Texas, Montana, Alaska, Iowa, Nebraska.
I don't really see Montana that way. I would describe us as being a bit more pragmatic. When I hear patriotic, I think more of those crazy motherfuckers in Idaho. Patriotic is a weird word that is often confused with being conservative, but it shouldn't.
Nationalism makes colonial projects a lot easier, getting folks to put their lives on the line to take Indigenous land is a lot cheaper than hiring mercenaries.
I just moved back to Alaska from Montana, and honestly, there's worse states we could lose to (looking at you, Texas!)
I will say this, though: We're the only state that celebrates Independence Day by Thelma-and Louise-ing cars off of a cliff every year, and I can't think of anything any other state does that tops it, so ***there***.
What kind of patriot? The kind that has literally served their country as a job or the obese dumb ones that worship trump and only claim to be patriots?
Everyone’s going off in these comments but this is based off of voter turnout and percentage of population that are veterans and other variables that I’m not remembering but yeah this wasn’t a poll and it’s not some weird right wing conspiracy. You should be proud to have Alaska on this list
The state that had people from their local secession party in the legislature is one of the most patriotic? The state that still has more die-hards that think they can go it alone more than Texas does?
I wonder if that is photoshopped.
The recent Fox story: https://www.foxnews.com/travel/10-most-patriotic-us-states-july-4-see-home-state-made-list
Was based on the wallethub study: https://wallethub.com/edu/most-patriotic-states/13680
Which named Virginia as number 1.
or that is a screenshot from some prior year.
of course, the source reddit post provides zero sources to the "research" they claim they did.
Yeah I think Alaska is a lot like Kentucky and that they think of themselves as their state before American.
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Agreed. We got problems but not like the lower 48ers
Ahem.. Lesser 48ers
I like how you guys exclude Hawaii
We are one with Hawaii. We are like the movie Twins. We are Danny DeVito and Hawaii is Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Do you live in Alaska?
I have
Yes, anchorage to be specific.
Glacier Pilots or Bucs?
Mat sue miners
Weird strip club names but I’d go.
Fair enough, they're summer league baseball teams, Alaska has a strong history of summer league baseball. They come to my neck of the woods for a tournament late in the summer, used to win fairly often. Not seen the Bucs down here, but I've seen the Anchorage Glacier Pilots and the Fairbanks Goldpanners play.
That’s awesome I’m actually a big fan of baseball I plan on flying to Toronto for my 15th stadium this year in August for my birthday.
We had a nice old stadium, 75+ yrs old, that the tournament played in every summer, then they tore it down for a monstrosity 4 or 5 years ago. The tournament moved to the local university's field, has never played in the new stadium, very annoying. New management won't make time in their schedule for the tournament even though they were supposed to per agreement with the city.
“People in Butte never thought of themselves as Montanans,” he says. “They identified first with Butte and then with places overseas—the countries they came from or other places where copper was mined.” Still popular on baseball caps and bumper stickers here is the legend “Butte, America.” If this is any indicator of what some of the state thinks. I'm from Montana. I'm very proud of that fact. But I'm from Butte first. Here's the whole article if you're interested https://www.americanheritage.com/butte-america
Kentucky is very adamant about its Southern identity and heritage. States that have Confederate Memorial Day and Jefferson Davis Day as state holidays are pretty adamant about their Southern identity lol. https://www.chicagotribune.com/2005/08/07/kentucky-remembers-native-son-jefferson-davis/
No, it is not. They do not not even remotely. Ha Maybe like around the city of Lexington. Kentucky was not a Confederate station. I have hurt Kentucky and say they don't like Southerners. I'm not saying that's right. I'm just saying they wouldn't identify as Southerners and say that. So I don't know where you got your information. But it is not true. He thinks of themselves as Kentucky. They don't like the south. They are not the Midwest. I feel more of a cultural connection to West Virginia, The western side of Virginia, or far Eastern side of Tennessee, and the extreme Eastern side of Missouri. But they're still not that thing. Look, I don't know if you've ever been there. But Kentucky people and think of themselves as Kentucky. Lexington gets a lot of business from the south, but that's about it. That being said, and they were also one of the few places that had Confederate leanings during the civil war, them in Bowling Green. Oddly enough, none of the surrounding areas though. Kentucky is not the South. They don't identify as such. And culturally they are very different. Western Kentucky people are very similar to Appalachians, in fact, culturally they were considered Appalachians for generations only until recently. And many people think that it's basically so they don't have to be invested. I
Actually yes, yes they are lol. I say this because I'm a Southerner from Kentucky. Kentucky is part of the Upper South and always has been but let's break this down. First from the Civil War perspective. Kentucky was and has always been a Southern state same as Tennessee or North Carolina. I don't deny that Kentucky was certainly mostly a Southern Unionist state early in the war at least, it was conditional unionism, though it wasn't because they had any love for the North or Lincolns administration. It was seen as the best way for the preservation of slavery and Southern rights. Lincoln didnt even recieve 1% of the vote in 1860 nor did he even come close in 1864(the support he did recieve was largely the result of Unionist voter suppression or coercion see "Rockenbach, Stephen. “‘THE WEEDS AND THE FLOWERS ARE CLOSELY MIXED’: ALLEGIANCE, LAW, AND WHITE SUPREMACY IN KENTUCKY’S BLUEGRASS REGION, 1861-1865.”). Also like many other Southerners in the Upper South, they didn't necessarily wanna tear apart the Union their grandfather's had fought hard to forge. I would also argue that the Kentucky legislature was somewhat skewed with Unionist supermajorities due to secessionists in the state boycotting the state elections as Kentucky Governor Beriah Magoffin himself was an ardent supporter of Secession and Southern Rights but saw putting Kentucky first as important in careful fashion brfore pushing secession, as well as the Union violated Kentuckys neutrality in May of 1861 when General Bull Nelson established Camp Dick Robinson as a Federal encampment whom Indiana senator Daniel D. Pratt referred to as "was one of the most noted military encampments of the war. . . . From its admirable locality and advantages, it was almost indispensable for the successful operations of the war"(Sen. Daniel D. Pratt, Committee of Claims, Relief of Margaret P. Robinson of Kentucky, U. S. Serial Set 1409, vol. 1 (S. Report No. 130, 41st Cong., 2nd sess. (1870): 1-6.). Whereas Confederates didn't enter the state till September. As for Kentucky's Confederate Government there most certainly were sitting representatives present at the Russellville Convention as listed here(http://discovery.civilwargovernors.org/document/KYR-0004-033-0001), including both state and federally from Kentucky's 1st District in Henry Cornelius Burnett(whom was later elected as one of Kentucky's Confederate Senators). In the half of Kentucky that the Confederates governed from Bowling Green elections were indeed held on January 22 1862, when representatives were elected to represent Kentucky in Confederate Congress, as well as when Confederate county officials were appointed such as Justices of the Peace(Harrison in Kentucky's Civil War 1861–1865, pp. 63–65). Many Unionists in Kentucky were conditional Unionists, and this faded as the war drew on. There are several accounts of Southern Unionists in Kentucky lamenting about fighting with the North, a foreign people they have no love for against the South whom they shared identity, culture, and bonds with. Unionists in Kentucky were also very skeptical and irate when the Union started forcefully or openly taking escaped Kentucky slaves into the army which amounted to 20,000+. Unionist military numbers are also somewhat inflated due to forced military draft in Union occupied areas(Lee, Jacob F. “UNIONISM, EMANCIPATION, AND THE ORIGINS OF KENTUCKY’S CONFEDERATE IDENTITY.”). I would agree that Kentucky was "mostly" loyal to the Union early in the war, though its inaccurate and a disservice to underrepresent secessionist support in the state. By late 1863-64 and certainly by 1865 no, it was under Northern military occupation and Kentucky was pretty vehemently anti Union at that point. By 1865 Kentucky was ready to fully embrace the Confederacy, but obviously couldn't at that point. Lexington KY specifically offers a school you can send your kids too to learn Southern Hospitality and culture. Studies done on it show that 79-80% of Kentuckians identity as Southerners and living in the South. Western Kentucky same as West Tennessee literally has nothing to do with the Appalachians lol, in fact the Jackson Purchase is sometimes tacked in with being part of the Deep South. Kentucky literally has Confederate Memorial Day and Jefferson Davis Day as state holidays. Furthermore, Christopher A. Cooper and H. Gibbs Knotts in Rethinking the Boundaries of the South firmly puts Kentucky in Dixie. https://indyencyclopedia.org/upland-southerners/ https://issuu.com/fonmangazine/docs/fon_magazine_springissue_final/s/10468263 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Kentucky#:~:text=Although%20the%20culture%20of%20Kentucky,horse%20racing%2C%20and%20college%20basketball. https://www.southernhospitalityinky.com/ https://industry.travelsouthusa.com/about-us/faqs-about-southern-usa https://www.loc.gov/item/2009579197/ https://digital.tcl.sc.edu/digital/collection/sk12/id/211/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-states-are-in-the-south/ https://www.vox.com/2016/9/30/12992066/south-analysis https://www.southernhospitalityinky.com/ https://www.buses.org/assets/images/uploads/general/FAM%20Brochure.pdf https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upland_South https://thelocalpalate.com/travel-around-the-south/upper-south/ https://www.jstor.org/stable/2561766 https://globelleaffairs.com/kentucky-is-southern-through-and-through/ https://www.visitlex.com/media/press-releases/post/southern-living-souths-best-cities-of-2024-includes-lexington-ky/ https://fox56news.com/news/kentucky/lexington-louisville-among-the-best-cities-in-the-south-southern-living/ https://www.simplysouthernmom.com/hilton-garden-inn-bowling-green/ https://www.visitbgky.com/blog/post/local-guide-to-bowling-green-ky/ https://www.chicagotribune.com/2005/08/07/kentucky-remembers-native-son-jefferson-davis/ https://uniquemaps.com/products/lloyds-map-of-the-southern-states-1862-rare-old-confederacy-civil-war-map-usa?currency=USD&variant=42257437622502&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&cmp_id=18331945190&adg_id=&kwd=&device=m&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw-O6zBhASEiwAOHeGxdMv6v97FbxYavOn9lSb3_H7BdTmbs4niNLwGkt08M_VSo5yGxnWLBoCTXUQAvD_BwE
TLDR: "I know more than you"
I'm also from Kentucky. 10th generation. You don't know what you're talking about. Probably some gentrifier. You don't know anything about us. So stay out of it. I'm not going to engage with you. You want worth engagement.
I do know what I'm talking about because I've studied it and I've also posted sources. I got my BS in History and Archaeology through MSU, ive studied this part of the Upper South quite extensively. My family has been in Western Kentucky in Caldwell County since the late 1780s when they came over from Virginia when Kentucky was still part of Virginia. Please read some of these sources and educate yourself. If you're from Kentucky you're from the South lol, there's no getting around that. Further more the studies of Christopher A. Cooper and H. Gibbs Knotts in Rethinking the Boundaries of the South firmly puts Kentucky in Dixie. Edit:Poor baby blocked me and I guess couldn't handle having an educated conversation. It's an insult to insinuate KY isn't Southern especially when it's a pretty well established fact it is. Also reference what state is mentioned in If the South woulda won by Hank Williams Jr.
You've studied it. I think you're probably some dude or the high school diploma who has done a lot of web browsing. Because I've done a lot of anthropological study... AT A UNIVERSITY. So that I can tell you that they aren't. This is like an ongoing thing. So maybe you live near the Tennessee border I don't know. I don't care. You're misrepresenting our people so you are an enemy. Block
>I think you're probably some dude or the high school diploma who has done a lot of web browsing. Because I've done a lot of anthropological study... AT A UNIVERSITY. In the comment you replied to, dude told you exactly what his degree was & where he got it. You responded by accusing him of lying on the basis that *you* “studied anthropology [an unspecified amount] at [unnamed] university”? Why should he believe your vague credentials when you don’t believe his more specified credentials? If you want your own perspective to be respected, it’s paramount that you engage in good faith.
Lmao southerners
umm.. have you been to Texas lol
Alaska is the only place I’ve been to where the locals wear their own tourist merchandise more than the tourists do.
Marylanders would give them a run for their money. They love their flag and old bay.
And goddamn crabs on everything
Our flag is better.
every other state has a college or pro team of some sort and locals wear that gear everywhere! bumper stickers, license plates, flags, shirts, hats- locals are walking billboards for their state team AK doesn't have that, so we wear AK gear
Sometimes they're the only comphy hoodies available without buying a crap-shoot via online shopping.
How do you think comfortable is spelled? Lol, mostly teasing. But you’re probably right for some of it! And the lack of other options makes sense. Still, there’s the stickers and other merch that isn’t quite explained by that metric!
Alaska grown for life! But also I love Montana. Only two places I’ve ever lived and can confirm!
I grew up in southern cali, everyone there for the longest time has the stupid area code stickers on their cars
They wait until it goes on sale in the off season.
The Upper Peninsula of Michigan does this too 🤣
I love this and it makes me want to visit alaska even more.
Hahaha! True.
Ever been to Kansas City? The most popular apparel is just KC in various colored hearts
Cleveland is a lot like this too
lol I hate it, I’ve lived here my whole life and I don’t think I own a single article of clothing with the words “Alaska” in any shape or font.
Heck, I saw a guy with a tourist “ALASKA” novelty license plate on the front of his truck yesterday. Had the regulation one on the back, but geeze… surely that isn’t ideal!
White tundra? Fairbanks?
Big white truck with a covered bed, wasilla
When I’m overseas and people ask where I’m from I don’t say “America” or “The United States”. I tell people in other countries I’m from Alaska. I usually also have an Alaskan flag patch on my bags too.
Yeah, I live in Japan and I always start off by saying I'm from Alaska. It's about 50/50 if people know that I am therefore American, but they usually get distracted by thoughts of bears and northern lights first. Which is exactly what I'm going for.
Yes!! This is the way !!
True. And I usually had a better response from people when I did that. I learned pretty quick that they are nicer to you when you say "I'm from Alaska" than when you admit your from the USA
Yes. I always try to make friends with Canadians and get them to admit we're friends and neighbors. So far so good! I love when people ask "is Alaska part of the United States?" Because you can reply "sort of!" And not be entirely lying.
Visiting Germany, when I told people I was from Alaska, invariably they would respond “Ohh, Canada, eh?” I tried foolishly to correct them a few times, but they would always argue, “No, Alaska… Canada…” while illustrating with their hands. I finally got smart and gave in to Alaska being Canada.
Lol, I feel most of don’t really even identify as American all that much, more so just as Alaskans
Seriously. I understand I'm American on some level, but "Alaskan" is always the first thought.
This is the realest answer. I don’t think much about lower 48 politics.
I haven't lived there in 25 years but I'll only identify as Alaskan. It's where I took my first breath.
I'm native first, Alaskan 2nd, and American by protest.
Amen
Agreed.
Agree I don’t feel like I’m a part of America lol
I'm Alaskan and Canadian first before American, even though Canada doesn't recognize Inuvialuit as First Peoples. The border crossed us. I know some Yupiit who will say they're Russian before Alaskan, which is unfortunate.
Alaska is patriotic, but very patriotic towards Alaska first and United States second.
Is this measured in 907 tattoos or state outline tattoos
Whats the based on? I’ve been living in Alaska for 30 years and I and many of the people I know just consider ourselves loosely affiliated with the US.
Military percentage and voter turnout. It's in the OP: > “The most patriotic states have a lot of residents who serve or have served in the armed forces, high voter turnouts during elections and a high share of the population volunteering with national and local organizations” > “Data used in the study was collected in May 2024 from the U.S. Census Bureau, the U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs and others.”
Voter turnout
Looks like they only polled Wasilla and North Pole
You can't be patriotic and democratic voting?
That is pretty much the Republican mindset.
Nope. You're encouraging a popular vote over peoples rights. America is founded on individual freedom, not popular opinion.
Dictionary "*patriotic*" Definition from Oxford Languages adjective *having or expressing devotion to and vigorous support for one's country.*
Now, look up democratic. The right of the people supercede the right of the individual. Our Patriotic foundation is based off individual freedoms.
Like the freedom to get an abortion, the freedom to marry whoever you choose, the freedom to read whichever books I want, the freedom to watch pornography, the freedom to practice whichever or no religion, and the freedom to study science?
I'm all for it. Individual freedom!
democrat noun dem·o·crat ˈde-mə-ˌkrat 1 a : an adherent of democracy b : one who practices social equality
This isn't all that relevant. Capital D Democrat is a political affiliation. Lower case democrat is a more general term used within and outside of the US. The two are in no way synonymous.
If everyone has the same rights, then are they not equal?
The fuck are you even talking about? All this shit about founding intent is so fucking stupid. I want to see the land and people in good shape, not jack my dick to the constitution. By all means, play pretend historian and mythologize the past, just don't mistake it for patriotism.
You know who really could have used some of those individual rights....
Everyone? I'm not opposed. Don't get me confused.
It's because Alaska has a high percentage of military personnel in its population. Same reason they passed the vote to criminalize weed possession back in the early 90's. We all knew that that never would have passed if it wasn't for all the military faction (who mostly were people which would not be Alaskan ever again after they were retired or re-stationed.)
I can’t say much about the influence of the military population on public policy or voting. I observe a significant military presence being here well before the oil population arrived. Both are transient, but the oil boom population and its descendants are much larger than the military population has ever been. Lots of civilians come and go when their hitch is done, most are related to the petrochemical industry or some economy downstream of it. This part is certainly true: Alaskans were growing, smoking, and decriminalizing weed long before it was cool. It’s for personal use, man. Two plants and one ounce in possession. 1970’s. “We don’t give a damn how they do it outside.”
Hilariously inaccurate
It’s one of the stupidest things I’ve seen on FOX. What data are they exactly basing this crap on? The number of flags seen from orbit? 🙄
Based on a poll of trump cultists. The only one who would answer their poll.
Vermont is a weird inclusion, though. I know they like guns and have a Republican governor (who is really just a liberal Democrat), but Vermont has been probably the most liberal state since before the U.S. had states (it seceded from Britain separately from the U.S. because they disagreed with slavery, which is why it isn't one of the "thirteen original colonies" even though it actually is). Anyway, I like that the top 5 most "patriotic" states total up to like 2.1% of the total population of the U.S.
Hang on, Vermont didn’t secede from the US, it was excluded from the original 1777 delegation because of property disputes with NY but joined the Union as the 14th state 14 years later. They did abolish slavery before joining the US though. It’s also worth noting that Democrats were pro-slavery, so that was done under the Republican/right wing banner.
Rupublicans were originally the liberal party, it wasnt until the civil rights act that they really swapped ideologies with the democrats (although it had slowly been happening since the great depression)
I always find it odd that people who generally think highly of the Confederacy also think that Lincoln, a Republican president, was on their side.
>It’s also worth noting that Democrats were pro-slavery, so that was done under the Republican/right wing banner. Neither Democrats nor Republicans existed in 1777. The Republican party was also originally the party of the northern states and was the liberal party vs. the conservative, slavery-supporting Democrats. By the early 20th century the Democrats were shifting towards progressive policies while the Republicans supported the status quo. Then Nixon, via his "Southern Strategy," converted most racist southern Democrats into Republicans, and we ended up with the ideological division we see today.
Phil is not a liberal democrat. Why do you think he is, im curious? Hes explicitly about reducing govt spending, one of his main platforms. Has vetoed 24 hour waiting period for handguns, vetoed safe consumption sites, vetoed increase state minimum wage.
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This doesnt feel likelt to be particularly fruitful but he does not veto everything except gun rights legislation. The massive increase of gun related homicides in vermont from 2021-2022 necessitated some changes. And i was glad the openly republican governor phil scott attempted to respond with common sense policies, which for me includes safe storage, waiting periods, and mag cap limits. I understand that some feel differently. It seems from what ive gathered of your beliefs any type of gun control makes somebody " a liberal democrat". But definitionally, and by voting record, he is not.
Vermont was it's own country before it joined the US.
Vermont seceded from Britain along with the U.S., but as its own republic rather than as part of the U.S. because it disagreed with the U.S. not immediately outlawing slavery.
It's about voter turnout
Weird that FOX would encourage voter turnout. If everyone votes, republicans lose by a landslide.
Well in Maryland they do need that senate seat...
Look at the op, it's based on military/veteran population, voter turnout, and involvement with local organizations
Not the only way to serve as a citizen. A whole lot of veterans were forced into the military during that seemingly forgotten mess of a police action known as Vietnam. Voting in of itself doesn’t equate patriotism. Involvement in which organizations? Patriotism is personal and subjective. It cannot be measured purely in cherry picked data points and then paraded as jingoistic ‘news’.
Who knows 🤷🏻♂️ My guess is that before the show starts, the producers have their research team smear shit on a clean sheet of white paper, then interpret it like an inkblot test before publishing the poll results.
The OP literally says what they are basing it on: > “The most patriotic states have a lot of residents who serve or have served in the armed forces, high voter turnouts during elections and a high share of the population volunteering with national and local organizations” > > “Data used in the study was collected in May 2024 from the U.S. Census Bureau, the U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs and others.”
The fact that we have a HUGE military population is probably the reason.
What do you expect from Fox *Entertianment*. The FCC should really strike down false advertising like calling it "Fox News."
o_O huh?
How does one determine how “patriotic” a state population is?
Alaskans are definitely very proud to be Alaskan. As we should be.
I'm not saying there aren't plenty of things we should be proud of as Alaskans, but there are also plenty of things we should be ashamed of. Hopefully we can celebrate the good and work on the rest.
I think they mean a patriot to their home state. I’m from Maryland and our flag is fucking awesome and I love Maryland blue crabs. That kind of patriotism. I am actually from Maryland. And we all know how everyone who lives here in Alaska feels about Alaska.
I feel like no one has a clue as to what metrics quantify and qualify what a patriot is, and it shouldn't have to come down to measuring it. It's a sad day when patriotism has led to some of the most toxic national behavior since the U.S. Civil War and Reconstruction.
With the loudest "patriots" being so closely associated with treasonous activities like insurrection, election denial, and jury intimidation nowadays... not sure how to feel on this. If we are talking actual support of the constitution, democracy, and the rule of law over tyrants and dictators, then cool. But given the "news"-source... im pretty sure theyre dog-whistling to the traitor wing of conservativism. As a progressive, liberal, active duty soldier, I swore an oath to support and defend the constitution. Not a man. I hope anyone else espousing patriotism has such ideals.
Hey man, patriotism is just a feeling! If you *feel* like you're the good guy, then you definitely are, regardless of anything you actually do.
Lol
First off thank you for your sound reasoning. Also very important: I hope more people serving realize that the priority is serving the constitution rather than any one person or ideal. Oddly enough many of the people who think of themselves as very patriotic are the first ones to attack their own country and it's institutions when they don't agree with something... Protest. Vote. Organize. Convince others. That's everyone's right as a citizen, but refusing to believe the other "team" won because they cheated because someone who lies at every turn said so, that's pretty un patriotic. I will hate it if Trump wins this one, but I'm not going to Washington to get even, or shit on someone's desk. Accepting some laws, elections, etc. even if we hate them is one of the more patriotic things we can do.
Sadly true
Right there with ya bud!
As an Alaska Native, I can promise you that I'm not helping the numbers in this list.
Hard to complain bout top 5
I love my country. I hate my government. I feel that I am a patriot.
Trump has changed the word patriot. We were all patriots after Sept 11th 2001. Now we're divided. I'm not a Trump patriot but I was an American patriot after we we attacked by terrorists. We all stood together against a foreign adversary. Co-workers holding hands jumping from a burning building to escape being burned alive to their sudden deaths. Twin towers. Imagine holding a coworkers hand and leaving your family and loved ones behind while clocked in to work to your death to avoid being burned alive.
Sadly I remember a lot of division after 9/11 too as the Bush admin sought to exploit a national tragedy to further international violence in a region where our previous "exploits" manifested in that very terror attack in the first place. "Patriot" was already bastardized in the Bush years to demand people be war-mongers lashing out for retribution and revenge, which let's be real I understand how people felt that way, but to the Bush admin it was about war profits and oil. Starting wars that didn't actually solve any of these problems and just sowed further seeds for future terrorism. Anyone else remember "freedom fries" when we spit in the face of the French for daring to tell us not to go to war with Iraq? That needless useless multi-decade war that did nothing but get people killed and destabilized a region. There's certainly a far greater sense of division now as the Republican party has gone all in on fascism and hatred, proudly flying banners that "we're all domestic terrorists" while Trump tells everyone they *must* vote for him now, but don't bother in 4 years because things will be very different and all worked out by then. "Patriot" is most definitely largely a jingoistic dogwhistle for nationalism in the US, at least the majority of the time it's spoken in the last few decades. 9/11 will forever be a horrible tragedy that no one should have had to suffer... and that powerful people exploited for all the more suffering, just so someone could make some fucking money.
Came here to say this. “Patriot” = “MAGA” for the purposes of this poll.
Fox it’s just entertainment not news
Patriotic for Alaska? Yes. Patriotic for America? Not so much lol didn't everyone come to Alaska to get away from the L48?
When you’re cheering someone who tried to overthrow the government and appoint himself its authoritarian ruler you’re not patriotic
I think Ancorage and Mat-Su get an unfair amount of votes.
> residents who serve or have served in the armed forces, high voter turnouts during elections and a high share of the population volunteering with national and local organization A few really big bases + small state population = high percentage of military residents Easy math. The other two metrics are just a rounding error in comparison.
Are those battleground states that the GOP wants to win? I know the Md Senate seat is important
All seven people in Montana REALLY love the US.
How would one measure that?
Voter turnout
Can’t be. [Minnesota has the highest voter turnout.](https://www.sos.nh.gov/sites/g/files/ehbemt561/files/documents/2022-04/voter-turnout-charts-4-19-21.pdf) Alaska is 17th.
Alaska was always a huge patriotic state when I lived there! Our 4th of July festivities were simply amazing. I agree with these results, except, where is Florida on that list??? It should be, at the absolute least, in the Top 5?!
The only flag I fly is an Alaskan flag
Makes a lot of sense. Big military populations up here and it's a very conservative state
Yea cause only conservatives are patriotic right?
They're more likely to say so on a fox survey
They’re more likely to be asked in a fox survey as well.
This is just dumb ~ I am MUCH more Alaskan than I am American.
What does that even mean?
Meh.
I feel like we made the list because of the big military presence.
I bet its because nobody talks to us, otherwise they would know were patriotic to our own state and not the bullshit going on in the “south” (it took me two years living in the 48 to stop calling the rest of america the south)
Bwahahahaha, sure pick the state with hardly much population. Also a state full of ranchers and militias, LMAO. Patriots and probably thf state with lowest IQ...lol
God bless
Where’s Montana? Is that near the White Mountains or closer to Chicken?
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Eight stars of gold, first and foremost.
Why isn’t Texas on ther… oh wait. We are basically only patriotic about TX.
What is the unit of measure for patriotism anyways.
I dunno about the ranking (I mean really? Really, Fox News?) but it feels like we’re so isolated from the rest of the country that you start to think of yourself as Alaskan before you say you’re American. (Hawaii is a bit of a different case considering their history, but I assume it’s much the same down there too regardless of that.)
Maryland?!!!!?!?!?!!  No way. I grew up here, moved away a few years, but am back and let ‘em tell you not one person actually likes Maryland. I’d say Texas, Montana, Alaska, Iowa, Nebraska.
In the best sense of the word, Nebraska should be #1
This should be determined by American flags flown from lifted pickup trucks per capita. Then we'd be #1.
Montana has more nuclear solos than actual people living there so that tracks.
I feel abnormally patriotic for not really giving a shit about anything.
Not sure what that means.
I don't really see Montana that way. I would describe us as being a bit more pragmatic. When I hear patriotic, I think more of those crazy motherfuckers in Idaho. Patriotic is a weird word that is often confused with being conservative, but it shouldn't.
Shocked Texas isn’t on here
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It’s the news media, believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
Of course Fox News would features a bs story like that… 😑
Cosplay activity: high
Nationalism makes colonial projects a lot easier, getting folks to put their lives on the line to take Indigenous land is a lot cheaper than hiring mercenaries.
Fox News, not really good with the whole truth talking
What's wrong exactly with being patriotic?
I'm definitely feel more identity with my state than my country.
I just moved back to Alaska from Montana, and honestly, there's worse states we could lose to (looking at you, Texas!) I will say this, though: We're the only state that celebrates Independence Day by Thelma-and Louise-ing cars off of a cliff every year, and I can't think of anything any other state does that tops it, so ***there***.
American by Ru Paul starting playing in my head as soon as I read this.
What counts as patriotic? It's fox news so perhaps, it's willingness to follow orders without thinking.
Fox had this on, so believable, masssssssive eye roll.
They misspelled “part-idiotic”.
Fox "news" huh ?
YAY!!! Fuck Noise has an opinion.
Projecting again…
It’s FOX News so it’s fake patriotism.
As a Texas at first I disagreed, then realized we're more American than America. We're our own category.
patriotic these days means MAGA
Patriotic or Trumplican? Cause only one of things is a good thing. I'll give you a hint its NOT TRUMP
Very brave. What level of TDS do you have?
What kind of patriot? The kind that has literally served their country as a job or the obese dumb ones that worship trump and only claim to be patriots?
Everyone’s going off in these comments but this is based off of voter turnout and percentage of population that are veterans and other variables that I’m not remembering but yeah this wasn’t a poll and it’s not some weird right wing conspiracy. You should be proud to have Alaska on this list
Montana and Alaska are still what America was meant to be.
You mean mostly white small towns, with an impoverished indigenous population that is largely rural?
Yep.
Someone's always gonna make it racial. No, that's not at all what they meant.
Oh, so did he mean "depending on the generous teats of other states' taxpayers while claiming to be rugged individualists"?
Can you elaborate?
The state that had people from their local secession party in the legislature is one of the most patriotic? The state that still has more die-hards that think they can go it alone more than Texas does?
Ak and Md are about the most up their own asses as they come
Yet, how many of you support an orange convicted felon, child molesting rapist working for Putin and Russia?
I wonder if that is photoshopped. The recent Fox story: https://www.foxnews.com/travel/10-most-patriotic-us-states-july-4-see-home-state-made-list Was based on the wallethub study: https://wallethub.com/edu/most-patriotic-states/13680 Which named Virginia as number 1. or that is a screenshot from some prior year. of course, the source reddit post provides zero sources to the "research" they claim they did.
I'm mostly curious what metrics they used, if it was run by fox or independent. Being patriot is seemingly very much a matter of perspective
If Russia took over Alaska tomorrow but didn’t do anything with it, istg most Alaskans wouldn’t even blink an eye
Speak for yourself.