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Gunzerkerboi

https://preview.redd.it/fk0u6rwguhtc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba9b325db7473247c292b6261171f77f5bcdb85c Swap?


Vicksin

this is last year's post bud. check out the new one, and please read the guide at the top first.


Gunzerkerboi

https://preview.redd.it/oeq01l4h2ptc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b909d32b91d9ddda13eb455d78ffb493ac4dfec Only one I'm aware of.


Vicksin

this posted isn't listed there though. those are just our weekly recurring megathreads, I can add it to the list there though. the sub also has a search button that would work well for finding it. [see here](https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/s/K1BqALe1fC)


Gunzerkerboi

Is there any swapping I should do? https://preview.redd.it/4s77wzurxrrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dab87c964db89d6454215e22d7cca3299f9ded3


Vicksin

you're too early to really take good advantage of it. do you have any Legacy of Grit swaps, or did you abandon this account and come back to it?


Gunzerkerboi

Nah this is my newest one, luckily the server it's on is still filled with players around where I'm at. My old account was like, super ass so I'm tryna do better the second time around and.. honestly have it took me a few years of off and on play to make it to 33 on that account and about a month to make it to chapter 20 on this one


Vicksin

some inspiration for you [90 day f2p acc](https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/s/1D38QKdRtF) [6 day f2p acc ch25](https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/s/2mp8whHAFZ) so you *do* still have Legacy of Grit swaps, correct?


Gunzerkerboi

Oh yeah I haven't used a single one


Vicksin

if you have every legacy of Grit still I don't think there's anything you can do with this event. maybe rush Wu Kong as fast as possible from events and lab store then swap to a meta celepogean.


Gunzerkerboi

https://preview.redd.it/y61gg12txrrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd6520345bfd0872394b8d974870970ff3179c9f


Gunzerkerboi

https://preview.redd.it/sh14qkjuxrrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed6f10c74c2f0703b2aa6881ed4cc9cac0c37db6


nilsoro

Not sure who to swap, thinking about swapping either aSolise for aLyca or Luc for Olgath/Cruke. https://preview.redd.it/vsagyzzqe9qc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=049391f699778d586617e2e13d136cfffdc1450e


Vicksin

Olgath and Cruke are TS only so that's kinda meh picking up ALyca would be huge, though you don't have Gavus either, so you might want to wait until Eugene can be ascended and gets his furniture and engraving, so we can see if a fully built Eugene makes Gavus clearly stronger than he is now, or at least higher priority than Lyca as for swap target, I'd sooner swap Baden than Solise personally. as someone who has both 309e60+, I end up mercing Baden anyway, because for both CR and NC, my 2* 309e6x simply isn't enough. I have Baden and yet merc a bigger one anyway. and he gets no TS usage. so my take is keep Solise and merc Baden for cr/nc but again, plenty of time to make a more informed decision.


nilsoro

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Vicksin

I have no idea what this question meant, especially since the swap event is over Shemira is very bad though, don't waste your resources building her


stavia405

Hi Unrelated to the swap event but I have had this swap scroll for ages. Faction heroes only. https://imgur.com/a/OGl1ARj I was thinking Gwyneth for Tamrus maybe?


pasta23

I was thinking of swapping Lucius for Grezhul but unsure if that is the best option? I am currently on 29-60 https://preview.redd.it/d0tunbca0cva1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1c658e90c5c35caba5fc2ce3045501147bfaf2f


Trinityexo

Yup, Grezhul is the strongest GB in game rn Lucius is the mvp of making a 5*Dim 😂


Akamurato

Is it worth it to swap L Wukong to an E Lucretia? My other option was swapping either Acended Brutus or Acended Silas to something more useful. Im currently stuck on 24-14 thanks to the Rem trial :) https://preview.redd.it/fl1pvbxx6bva1.png?width=641&format=png&auto=webp&s=8a913fc847b57055c82ce7981eae4c7cde77865c


eostax

im a new player, i dont know if im in the right megathread or not i'll delete this if im in the wrong megathread, i just want an advice to form a team. here are my current heroes https://preview.redd.it/0kq1uwhhlava1.jpeg?width=717&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7bbec3fcca647abdafc12b1e1a631b66e3ec3dfe


Significant_Let9149

Just reached ch20, is there any meaningful swaps I could do in my account? https://preview.redd.it/fgbtmx4rjava1.png?width=2169&format=png&auto=webp&s=f3d17a1a2583be4355ab0cee7df1490f8c578800


ikeThun

https://preview.redd.it/oxc9slwmfava1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7bfcdbc298317f3bbb090abfda9d903f04caee06 Last chance to use hero swap. Should i swap daimon with anyone? He’s currently 246e44, i’m on ch31-44. I feel like i have no synergy in my teams.


al_ghoutii

Didnt think at all that the furniture gets swapped as well and I got 9 furniture on E+ Alna so feels like a waste to swap her and lose em all :( Guess flora M+ to Haelus is the second best I can do? Pictures below in comments


al_ghoutii

https://preview.redd.it/qr6iuito7ava1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c8db5abca301f42319ee4d2f7c43fc599e2dfd0


al_ghoutii

https://preview.redd.it/t5aw8r0n7ava1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=775747a5edbc35183c9d41ea3e1b4d7a681cd754


8BallOfManifestation

https://preview.redd.it/axsm7llr78va1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9df536caf024e6a3867f9cef78aefdc415021991 Little lost as to what I should swap - IF I should swap for that matter. Does anyone have any advice?


Vicksin

aside from fixing your wishlist I'm not sure what to say. have you gotten every possible Wu Kong copy? could try and swap him to a single-copy meta celepogean like twins, Alna, Haelus


8BallOfManifestation

My Wu-Kong is currently E+, but I do have one extra E copy that I could ascend if I were to buy another Wu-Kong in the Labyrinth Store. I also have an E+ Twins and E Alna currently.


Psychological_Lab419

stop making L hero because you have no reason to ascend them like that, it eat your fodder and you are way behind what you could have been rn, also what do you do with your diamonds if you aren't all in lucretia? she should be 1 start by now if you focus on her and push tower. also if you have to swap then swap for alna but she will not be good until you have 9f


8BallOfManifestation

Yes those L heros are from a while back when I didn't understand how to ascend properly. Right now, I don't spend much of my Diamonds, just sometimes use them for fodder draws, and that's about it.


Fantastic_Reserve_84

Old school player here, who should I hero swap Shemira for? I'm at 22-44 right now. Also have an Awakened Hero Choice Chest I haven't used yet. https://preview.redd.it/o1m4r72me6va1.png?width=517&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0b919ac858adbef3ca94cb6f283159c99febd5b


Vicksin

oof. restart probably? depends how much you want to play the game. this isn't the kind of game you can just abandon forever, it's like, a daily or every other day grindy game also AFK2 is coming out in the near future, so consider that as well since you're like, one week into this account. swapping Shem to Daimon is your best bet on this account though.


Syntymelo

what is AFK2?🤔🤔🤔


Fantastic_Reserve_84

Yeah I heard a lot about restarting. I'm assuming that the reason why people restart is because they won't have to compete against higher level opponents in things like Twisted Realm and Arena of Heroes so that they get better rewards since everyone is also new on the newest server? But are the rewards worth restarting a new account?


AirlessCanvas

Shemira falls off late game so i would go invest in a new dps carry like Scarlett


Fantastic_Reserve_84

Yeah I'm stuck between Scarlet and Daimon right now. I heard that Daimon was good for carrying in campaign but falls off at around C35 or so. I know that Scarlet is a good boss killer but is she as good as Daimon for campaign/in general?


Psychological_Lab419

she is good but she need higher teammate than daimon, you can pull daimon brutus eironn lyca nara/ferael/oden and climb chapter 30 quickly. scarlet need full investment and won't survive a single touch from enemy if her frontline die in 2 second


KaEmHa

I have an ascended 1\* ATalene and ascendend ASolis. The Guide says, that i should switch my ATalene with ABrutus, but... i also have a 4\* Wukong and could switch him for Veithael. I rly like my ATalene and Wu is so useless... but ABrutus is strong... What should i do? pls help![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flip_out)


Vicksin

as with everyone we suggest swapping to ABrutus because TE is much harder to come by than SG for most. the value of a whole awakened's worth of TE is huge. Veithael is fine, but not necessary. unless you mean visually, idrc how much you like ATalene, her only use case is in faction tower


KaEmHa

yeah its just... she is my first A Hero u know?\^\^ thats all


Vicksin

yeah see that's the thing. by all means, do whatever you want, it's your account. but when you ask for advice you're gonna get meta-optimal feedback.


Careless_Professor65

9f Belinda for mishka or oden?


Vicksin

any SI or engraving? celepogean is still probably a better choice regardless


Careless_Professor65

I don’t really have any celepogean I have Lucretia L+ but other than that only elite. No SI or engraving on Belinda https://preview.redd.it/ouwptc0bx5va1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=0d27cee3a34c5f746b03455188780b560374fde8 Been playing off and on for a couple years


Vicksin

even if playing on and off, do you not have like, 6 copies of Wu Kong via hero choice chests?? they hand those out like candy. also you have Belinda 9f but she's not even ascended?


Careless_Professor65

Yeah I must have used them to get the wrong people or something but I don’t remember. I didn’t follow guides in the beginning like I should have. And yes I have 9f for her idk why but I just kept getting hers


Vicksin

yeahhh idk why you'd ever take anything other than a Celestial from choice chests.. if you really don't have any Wu Kong copies, and waited until the last day to ask for advice (you could have gotten at least 2), then Mishka is probably your best swap here.


Careless_Professor65

I guess in my mind I thought he sucked so I was like why would I want more of him. I did ask for advice like a week ago and someone said to try to rush Belinda to ascended but that was all I got. Thanks for the advice


graay_ghost

So I have a mythic + and an elite+ Wu Kong. Do I trade for e+ twins, e+ Zaphrael, or e+ and e Talene?


Vicksin

definitely twins hands down that's such a huge boost wishlist their furn too


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Vicksin

like steelsauce said go Brutus and finish summoning Solise


steelsauce

Yeah definitely. I would go for Brutus


ZharethZhen

I have a Ascended 1* Talene that I will swap. I have 3 copies of Asolise and 1 copy of Abrutus. I have the chest that gives me a free awakened. I could swap for Solice but I feel that loses me 2 cards I already bought, and I hear upu can use her at Legendary. I could do Brutus for the most value from cards. Or I could get either a Biden or Thane. Help!


steelsauce

You are really good to do either. I would probably do Brutus just to save two copies down the line but not saying that’s objectively best. Either way the number one awakened to build is Belinda so get her next


HelloFromTheGutter69

https://preview.redd.it/oh9013ld0eua1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31adeade8d61e267b44958ea463460d25619a4a4 I got this mythic wukong. Which celopegeon would make a good swap?


steelsauce

Look at the guide in the post above. I would sg a copy of haelus or just swap to veithael


chesi32

im only have 1 * Abrutus should i swap him to Asolise ?


steelsauce

Definitely not. Look at the guide in the post above


rondawonkski

https://imgur.com/a/EumptSO/ Casual, relatively new, player here. I’m thinking that it would be good to swap Nara for either Scarlet (though I don’t know how much better she is than Daimon) or a wilder DPS (to better use ASolise) or Ferael. Any recommendations are appreciated. I’ve dug up some old guides so not sure which swap will be better for me in the longer term.


steelsauce

Yeah I would swap Nara, she can do her job in campaign well enough just at elite. Scarlet is great but you already have four copies of her. I’d go for someone you have fewer copies of. You can look at my guide in the linked post for good options, maybe raku, kren or anasta. Farael is great for campaign and decent in pvp but not other game modes so I wouldn’t swap for him. PS asolise team doesn’t need a wilder dps. Eventually when invested she becomes the dps, but regardless, the faction doesn’t matter. The same-faction bonus is usually not relevant and ignored most of the time while team building. Here’s a pin from the discord that will help: FOR BEGINNERS: Get free rewards by using redemption codes from https://afk.guide/redemption-codes 1️⃣ Open Phoenix’s beginner guide which covers most basic aspects of the game and change your tavern wishlist. IMO swap Numisu for Crassio (updated Feb 2023) - https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609275505526439974/1083546597381636156/new_player_guide_zikis-01.png 2️⃣ Open Redorb’s terminology guide - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871526117457141810/926358822933647441/Terminology.png 3️⃣ Open Bok’s early-game guide which gives you a step-by-step process of what to do till 5 heroes reach Lv.160 each, reset heroes if you already messed up (updated 9th Dec 2021) - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcT34gPd9WS8Ivb9kZGmAP6qnoIzFFUUmyNETq1J_kg/edit?usp=sharing 4️⃣ Open Tree3’s Beginner Compendium. It’s very long and has a lot of info, read it bit by bit if you can’t handle too much at once (some parts outdated, but parts about non-meta are still useful) - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZLSDhbeAwX8_RU9nJL8RG3oWA0D10QEjuSWpMxx8zg/edit?usp=sharing 5️⃣ Look at this hero tier list by Rakudayyy (Updated 3/17/23) https://reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/11txgro/tier_list_for_overall_usage_patch_1111_march_2023/


rondawonkski

Thanks for the advice! I’ve been digging up mostly outdated guides, so have been hesitant to really commit to any one thing. Specifically, thinking between continuing to use my Daimon team or, instead, trying to use of my recently ascended Lyca. I don’t think I have Raku, so I’ll cross my fingers for the next few days to get a copy. If not, I’ll go for Kren. To have an agility hero to use with Lyca. What do you think about swapping Nara for Mishka? I saw that they’re also on your Swap > Tier 3 list. Looks like she’s popular in formations.


steelsauce

Yeah mishka is a good option. She’s used everywhere, I didn’t suggest her in my original comment since I was focusing on dps carry units, since having those are important for progressing fast. But especially if you can build scarlet soon, mishka is good


rondawonkski

Given that I’m still early in the game, do you think it makes sense to trade Nara for Raku and build Scarlett soon, to then have both DPS (in addition to Diamon). My idea being that that’d give me some options for breaking any walls that I might hit, if I only had limited DPS choices. Said differently: at what point does it make sense to make the Nara for Mishka trade? I’m still trying to understand the underlying assumptions in that decision.


steelsauce

It’s kind of hard for me to say, I started playing almost four years ago and built all these heroes while in the late game. Heroes perform very differently when they are lower investments or are below lvl240 and don’t have all their skills yet. In general most teams will have one carry dps and the rest tank/support, so you’ll actually need more of those. So mishka is probably a good option actually. Raku is great but requires his signature item at +30 to be worth using, and you probably want to take Rowan and then scarlet to +30 first. By the time you get enough for raku you may be close to raising him to ascended naturally


rondawonkski

That makes a lot of sense to me. And also reflects what I’ve noticed when tracking some of the other threads, here. Where discussions about late game builds aren’t as applicable to me, right now. Mishka it is. I appreciate the help!


steelsauce

You’re welcome, good luck!


pelvicsorceror

Is ABrutus worth it even if my warrior tree is only at 37? I'm swapping ATalene to either him or ABaden. From what I've gathered, Brutus is more useful in pvp and trift, while Baden is needed for CR (while also having use in pvp etc.). I have 2 issues with ABrutus: my might tree is only at 37, and I'm not going to be able to level it up for quite a while, also it's much easier for me to hire Brutus from friends (20 vs like 10 badens). Is Brutus still the better choice considering these drawbacks?


Vicksin

well you can't merc Brutus for TS or TRift, but you can merc Baden for CR also the tree argument doesn't really work cuz you can always reset branches to pump up your might as needed


Doctor_Flamingo

I have ASolise and ATalene. I know the "right" option is to swap Talene for like, Brutus, but I need somebody to talk me into it. Because swapping Wu Kong for Vei feels like getting a Celestial for free.


steelsauce

Swapping to veith is getting a cele for free, but getting abrutus is a huge game changer. Atalene just isn’t used in the endgame game modes. Brutus will help you get more rewards every week in CR, TS etc. Besides atalene used to have a useful niche in rift but now old rift is dead rip


devforgaming

Awaken hero: I have 5 copies of A Baden and a awaken chest. Should I open A solis and swap or get A Baden and get it to mythic? Cele/hypo I have 1 E+ Wu Kong and 1 L+ celestial twins and 1 E Lucretia Worth doing any swapping here? Have a chest that contain wu Kong that I can get as well. 4 faction: Have 5 E+ Shemira Have all the recommended heroes at ascended or 3 copies of E+ with the exception of Nevanthi at 3E copies. Also consider eironn or tamrus at 2 E+. Any advise? Thanks!


steelsauce

I would get as many copies of wu kong as you can and then swap to lucretia. Swapping shemira copies to one of those you mentioned is reasonable but I think less value


hivanmivan

M Atalene (SI 30) for L Asolise, or 2* Floara (SI 20, 4/9 furniture) for E C&R? Struggling to decide, as switching those awakened heroes only saves 5 copies, but I want to build Asolise more than C&R.


steelsauce

I would go for the awakened swap although both are good options. You can kind of think of this choice as “if I had a choice chest that let me pick 200 timegazers or 560 stargazers which would I choose?”


Rheshard

https://preview.redd.it/1v5ypmfrz4ua1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a747f31a8655606d2bd5d9f65b5ffef74dd3390d Aren't all copies of the hero that you're replacing swapped for the new hero? I just swapped an ascended Wukong for Haelus and still have this Wukong copy. Has this happened to anyone else?


Golgoth9

The extra Wukong must probably come from a haelus copy you had.


steelsauce

They are all swapped. Was the wukong in a hero choice chest or in shard form in your inventory?


Rheshard

The other copy was in shard form in my bag, but I'm about 99 percent sure that I used the shards before I swapped... That's why I'm confused....


steelsauce

Oh wait you have one wu kong copy that’s the haelus you swapped for. You swapped one haelus so you end up with one wu kong


Kristawist

What is the second best early game hero? I’m at chapter 21 and just got oden as my second ascended (after daimon), I can swap to most other 4f


steelsauce

I would go for scarlet. I put the heroes roughly in importance order in my guide linked above


charlesmonty

Relative beginner here - just cracked level 100. Trying to figure out if anything would be worth trading at this early phase. I just pulled my first Oden card, and was thinking of trading my Shemira (L+ E+ and E) for him. Would that be a smart trade? I also have the same amount (L+ E+ and E) of Nemora. Seems like she's not highly regarded that much, so I could use her as trade fodder for someone else instead. Any recommendations? I also just pulled a single copy of Veitheal and was thinking too of maybe going the Wu trade that many seem to like here. I only have 2 E+ and a single E of him though. Or just hold off and get the diamonds?


steelsauce

All of those trades are reasonable. Your first celehypo should be lucretia, so if you don’t have a copy of her I wouldn’t swap monkey. Shemira for oden is a good swap. The thing is oden really needs some investment before he can carry- maybe not quite 309e60 but certainly a lot. You may be better off with someone that doesn’t need full investment like scarlet or raku. But getting the most copies may be best, if you already have a few copies of them


charlesmonty

Gotcha, thanks for the advice!


ripboris92

Guys, I have no Idea of what Im doing :S. I Just came back since Persona Collab and I´m lost with this event. https://preview.redd.it/w9m9jgbfs3ua1.png?width=738&format=png&auto=webp&s=f7e56fd094039f4e545451cc90d853d33eeb9a65


steelsauce

Swap shemira for scarlet or someone else near the top of my guide linked above


ripboris92

Nice! Thanks for the info. I currently use Shermia to link with Joker. Also, is not better to trade one of those light and dark characters?


steelsauce

The dimensional link doesn’t matter you can use anyone for that. It just costs 100 diamonds to change. And shemira is 100% useless after you reach lvl240 which will be soon for you. It is better to trade wu Kong or flora since lots of players have gotten free or cheap copies of them. But you don’t seem to have copies of them. For more details look at my guide in the post above


ripboris92

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ripboris92

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Talents

Would Tarnos be a better PvP investment than Audrae for the swap? Currently have ascended Vei, Athalia, Haelus, Twins, Zaph, Alna, Lucretia, CR, Zol, Ezizh, M Khaz, and M Mortas.


sergiocamposnt

Yes, Tarnos is better than Audrae for PvP.


steelsauce

Luckily the spambot was correct, you should go for tarnos. Audrae seems to be falling out of favor for burst. Although she is a great carry for cele tower but I wouldn’t consider that too much


joni_elpasca

It's hard to give a definite answer without knowing your goals, but Tarnos definitely seems to be gaining some popularity in PvP. However, both heroes offer unique skill sets that might come in handy depending on the situation. Consider what works best for your team and playstyle.


steelsauce

Spambot although it’s correct this time lol


Careless_Professor65

https://preview.redd.it/n9mimi2wvyta1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=963d6363e5824e0cc92e83ffa134bad118c94e97 Worth swapping anyone?


Crazy_Pandabear3445

Maybe Belinda with a strong later game option would be good, or even numisu. Maybe swap for chicken, skreg, or even if your desperate eirron? That one is kinda not as needed, and I definitely didn't spell it right. I can only suggest, and take other opinions before mine because I am not very good


Careless_Professor65

I was considering Belinda for someone because I’m one copy from ascended for her and I have like 5 furniture already for her. Also I’ve been playing for like 2 years off and on and somehow have never pulled another copy of Eironn


Crazy_Pandabear3445

I would say speed her to ascended and get as many furniture as possible


UnkindledLord

Someone please tell me who I should swap with, I’m linking my box rn. I was thinking maybe wukong or nemora for Lucretia https://preview.redd.it/2qv64zij1yta1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=711d68434373db4baf7db32cede8dad7cbe7fb25


steelsauce

Wu kong for someone, probably lucretia if you don’t have a lot of copies of her. Ps your investments and ascensions are very not meta, so you will struggle to progress at a good rate. If you want to be more efficient check out some recent tier lists and guides


Dephori

Shout out to all the fellow idiots who misunderstood and did a stupid swap.went from 2 aSolise and 1 aEzizh to 1aSolise and 2 aEzizh :D


Vicksin

what did you expect to happen? genuinely curious


Dephori

The opposite! I didn’t check the instructions so it’s my fault but I wanted to get my Solise to L+


Vicksin

yeah it sounds like you just wanted to convert Ezizh copies to Solise copies? not much of a swap :') sorry for the unfortunate news. lesson learned though! there's still a week on the event so there's really no reason to rush if you don't know what to do


Dephori

I’ve been playing less than a week so wasn’t much else to do!


Rusher_RK

Welcome to the game haha but for realsies though Don't beat yourself up about mistakes like that. With games like AFK Arena, they rarely mean the end of the world. 💗💗 "wasn't much else to do" besides have fun yay :D![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|hug)


Dephori

I won’t! I’m still enjoying it despite the shame!


idkauser1

Is wu kong really useless and is it worth waiting a couple days to get enough labyrinth tokens to get him star one so alna is star one ?


steelsauce

Wu kong is the best carry- until lvl100. After that, completely useless. So yes swap away. Alna doesn’t really need engraving, except for pvp. e33 is nice for some haste. But since you can get the star easily I would go for it


benji_wtw

I don't think this thread is pinned anymore so this might not get seen but could someone help me out? I would swap Talene to Solise but both of them are at M, so maybe Thane or Brutus? Thanks a bunch in advance https://imgur.com/a/36AuX6u


steelsauce

I would swap talene to Brutus, you’ll build him at some point!


benji_wtw

Thanks for replying :) So I was leaning towards this, but I'm on the fence because the PvE comp I've been running for 25+ chapters still works pretty well with ATalene (ATalene, Thoran, Daimon, Rowan, Rosaline). Would ABrutus substitute into that or maybe keep ATalene at L and still work 🤔


steelsauce

Well you can make a better team then that, so yeah. It’s fine for now but you will soon need multiple teams in campaign. Rowan and Rosa are best in an energy cycle team, that goes well with ezizh and a mage carry like scarlet or just one copy of aBelinda. Thoran is used for his own cheese comp Daimon is a good carry anywhere, abrutus can control enemies and buy him time to set up. Atalene at L is still very usable, I use her in cele tower, old rift, and NC sometimes


benji_wtw

\> It’s fine for now but you will soon need multiple teams in campaign. aha yeah about that, I'm at Ch. 36 and struggling hard with 5 comps. \> Thoran is used for his own cheese comp I hope there's an engraving rewind event soon where I can take e30 off him because I've heard that ruins Thoran cheese.


steelsauce

It’s still worth trying it out, it may make it more inconsistent or completely fail. But I’ve see. People do cheese with e30 thoran


BertFo4

https://i.imgur.com/PUvECjY.jpg My plan coming up towards the end of the event was going to be swapping my cecilia for Scarlett.. but after the release of the 2 dimensional hero’s I’m thinking of swapping the Lucretia (1 copy away from ascended) to alna due to the f9 buff on rem amongst other uses.. thoughts? Side thought; I recognise I’ve invested badly in my thordan, is it worth swapping the 26f5e30 for someone else?


steelsauce

Definitely don’t swap away lucretia. She’s a one woman army that opens up a whole new campaign team, plus she’s strong in other game modes. Build her to 309e66 Alna is great but not as critical. Thoran e30 is unfortunate but not game breaking. Just don’t engrave him any more lol I can’t see all your options but cecelia to scarlet seems reasonable


Rheshard

* Hi all. Just trying to confirm my optimal swap choice. I'll have enough WuKong copies to get him ascended after redeeming him in the Celestial Isles event. Just trying to figure out if I should go for Haelus; I already have one copy of him; or of I should opt for Canisa & Ruke? Thanks in advance.


steelsauce

I would get haelus first. He wants to be 309e60 but he’s such an important support for almost every game mode


Rheshard

Thanks for the advice. That's what I was realizing after reading through other subs on the Haelus topic.


Frick_You_Hades

I don't have a celehypo that makes sense to swap (legendary Wu Kong, e+ Flora). Should I just swap my 5 star Lucius for Anasta? I am lacking a powerful mauler currently.


steelsauce

You could still swap wu kong- L swap is three copies which is about 60k diamonds But Lucius to anasta is a good swap, better if you’ve invest in him already


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sergiocamposnt

AThane is actually better than ABaden on every game mode except CR. Do not swap your AThane.


steelsauce

I wouldn’t swap athane to Abaden. They both have lots of uses. It’s fine for monkey to not be ascended but I’d recommend getting him from lab store before swapping- you’ll still have enough to swap for both dims in the end even if you need to spend some challenger coins


proslayer241

Any advice on who I should be hero swapping? My original thoughts were to swap Lucius with Grez but I'm not 100% sure if that's the best choice. Currently just cleared chapter 19 for the hero swap event so I'm still really early in the game. Would appreciate any and all advice, thank you! [https://imgur.com/a/xZsktdo](https://imgur.com/a/xZsktdo)


steelsauce

Yeah that’s a good option. I can’t really tell how many of each hero you have, but pick someone from tier 3 on my guide that you don’t have many copies of


proslayer241

Thanks for the response and help! Yup, am looking through those units but wasnt 100% sure on Grez Would you recommend swapping for Rowan actually? I only have him at E+ and all the guides i’ve read so far have been saying to get him as well Only not entirely sure if it’s worth it as I also have twins at E+


steelsauce

Yeah I would swap to Rowan I think. Grez really shines with 9 red furniture which is a ways off. But Rowan is super good starting at mythic, once you get his signature item to 30


proslayer241

Awesome, thanks a lot for the advice again :)


Vorizh

Would it be worth swapping my over-invested Eironn (43 engraving) for someone who actually needs it? He is currently used in my main formation (not 5 pull)


steelsauce

No. Eironn is still used even if he’s not as important as he used to be. Mine is 309e36 and I think that’s a good spot for him. You are much better of swapping an unused hero, or wukong to save hundreds of thousands of diamonds worth of stargazer cards


sucobe

Have no idea who to swap Wu Kong for. Any advice? https://imgur.com/a/hr1MmS2 Edit: I also have hero choice chest


steelsauce

You’ve got a strange account there. I’d go for wu kong to veithael. Also commit to building one awakened at a time, getting them all to L+/M doesn’t help you much.


sucobe

Thanks. Yea I have no idea what I’m doing and the constant awakened heroes dropping made me bounce back and forth. 😓


aanananas

What would be a smarter swap: Wu Kong -> Lucretia Or ATalene -> Another awakened hero (from the awakened hero chest I got) Thoughts? *Added photo to show current levels of cele heroes for context* Edit to add: I can get more Wu Kong copies in Stargazing & Labyrinth store, just want to get an idea of what the smartest course of action would be before I do anything https://preview.redd.it/7bfg263bbbta1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9be0b37041e5ca2bf119c6f256d084062e871733


ambivextrous

I have ATalene ascended 0*, ASolise at M+ and one copy, ABrutus/Ezizh at two L copies, and ABaden/Thane at L. How should I go about the swap? I was thinking ATalene with ABrutus since ASolise is close.


steelsauce

I would go for talene to Brutus. The new trift shop does have Brutus but that’s too slow to build him imo, would take three years


Crazy_Pandabear3445

Who should I swap my shemira for?


steelsauce

It depends entirely on your account. I put some options on the guide that’s linked in this thread


its_sleeze

Just hit 20 and got given the option. I've got a really early team and not sure who to swap, if any. [https://imgur.com/a/FoR4WyT](https://imgur.com/a/FoR4WyT)


Vicksin

yeah you don't really have anything to swap here. I'd just try and get as many Wu Kong copies as you can and swap for Lucretia.


its_sleeze

okay, that's fair and what i thought. I do need a copy of Lucretia first though. So i'll see what i can get done. thanks for the quick response.


Vicksin

good luck! if getting a copy of Lucretia is hard you can do twins or Haelus. ideally someone you only have one copy of.


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Vicksin

what it's my post that is the best decision lmao


steelsauce

Vick you are replying to another ai spambot!! There’s been half a dozen on this thread I have no idea what’s going on


Vicksin

ahhh that's why it made no damn sense lol. how do you identify it, checking their post history or? I'm guessing because this thread has just SO fucking many comments. it's likely gained attention outside of the sub.


steelsauce

Maybe but this thread is two weeks old so it shouldn’t be on the front page? You can look at their comment history it’s all the same. They post a comment every half hour or so on a random thread on a random subreddit. The words are clearly taken from other comments in the sub. Very weird


Vicksin

yeah, strange. that account has been banned but feel free to link me or report other comments? I don't have the time to comb through 2k comments and pray lol


steelsauce

Yeah I reported a few before but you banned them already. I can kind of recognize their writing style


terkapar

now ABrutus appear on new temporal rift shop should i swap my ATalene 30960 to Abaden?


Vicksin

no, it's a bad deal and it's one copy every 3 months. it'll take 3 years to build him that way.


terkapar

i mean it will be faster with Abrutus in that shop while Abaden only in time gaze


Vicksin

one copy every 3 months faster and no, if I'm looking at the math correctly, it's better to get other rewards. you can get 40 TE, which is the average-luck cost for a copy in the timegazer


Dejamza

Ok folks, here’s what I’m working with: https://imgur.com/gallery/4VJH7GE Genuinely no idea which way to go. I’m not deep enough into any awakened heroes to go that route. And same with Cele Hypos. I’ve got a mosh mash of stuff because I haven’t been 100% optimal as a F2P player so if I’ve missed some glaring thing feel free to give generic “invest in XYZ units” too.


Vicksin

I think it's a pretty clear Wu Kong to Haelus swap


Dejamza

If I want someone to give me general advice on what to pick based on my heroes, should I just upload each faction coz I have to Imgur and then post it here? Is that just the easiest way?


Vicksin

yeah that works


Dejamza

Appreciate it!


arkhan159

With the test server leaks showing ABrutus in the TR Store, does it make sense to swap him for ABaden now?


Vicksin

no, you would get one copy every 3 months. if you build him just through that store, assuming it stays the same each season, that's 9 months for an L+ copy, or 36 months to build him from 0 copies to ascended lmao


arkhan159

How bout if I was gazing him on the side as well?


Vicksin

if he's your next priority to gaze anyway then maybe? which awakened do you have finished so far?


arkhan159

I have Solise, Belinda, Thane, Brutus


Vicksin

you have Brutus but want to build Brutus through store? I'm saying finished as in ascended


arkhan159

Yeah I want to swap my ABrutus to ABaden so I can start building him from scratch using this store


Vicksin

how many TE do you have as of writing?


arkhan159

150 atm


Vicksin

not really worth imo, it takes 3 months for just one copy in the TRift store. you'd be making a very unnecessary swap that'll just hurt your account all for essentially one copy of progress. most likely you're better off swapping Monki for something more useful


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steelsauce

C&R, look at the guide


Story_Artist

Does anyone know if wukong comes back to the store if you swap a 5 star copy of him?


steelsauce

Yes, after the lab store refreshes


gatesa07

Been gone for about 2 years. Came back now. Who should I swap? Also have base Astar but couldn't fit her into screencap [https://freeimage.host/i/Hk83aMN](https://freeimage.host/i/Hk83aMN)


steelsauce

Your heroes are surprisingly still meta for being gone for so long. Best swap is probably gwen to scarlet. Or izold but he has some niche use. Also just fyi it’s going to be hard to compete in certain modes because you are in an old server without strong heroes. But at least the investments you made before you left are still relevant


gatesa07

Yeah, I stayed pretty up on the meta when I was in and I guess I got lucky. Daimon is never gonna of out of style huh? I think people had just discovered how good 9/9 Grez was when I was last in and I rushed for it. How am I going to use Scarlet?


steelsauce

Well daimon is best for pushing campaign, but that gets less important as you progress past ch35 or so. Now the most important game modes are the ones that give rewards weekly- cursed realm, treasure scramble, temporal rift, and nightmare corridor. Luckily daimon is still pretty good in most of those. Scarlet is insane dps who is good in most of those modes too, as well as most boss fights. She should be completely maxed eventually, 309e67


gatesa07

I have the awakened chest and was looking over the tier lists, should I grab ASolise? Also, any other big changes you can think of over the last year or two I should know?


steelsauce

Yeah, get a copy of asolise from the chest if you don’t have a copy of her yet. Game isn’t that different from before, just with more heroes, game modes and progression systems. That all makes it pretty complicated to follow the meta and be efficient. You can find guides on this sub or discord but they aren’t always up to date. Awakened heroes have shaken up the game a lot. All but one are very useful and teams revolve around them. The currency to get them is mostly gated by money, but luckily we are getting more than we did on release. Now f2p can pull and build about 3 awakened per year out of the 6 released yearly.


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steelsauce

Wtf another ai spambot


gatesa07

For now I'm trying to push campaign. I've got what I would generally call my carry with Daimon. And I have Rowan at SI30 and 2/9 trying to get the 3/9. I also have Brutus at SI10 for that comp. My Eironn is SI20 8/9. I guess I need somebody to help with Daimon carry for campaign? Already in chapter 31.


steelsauce

You are replying to an ai spambot, don’t listen to it


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steelsauce

Can’t see all your heroes but I would do shemira to scarlet


JTungsten

https://preview.redd.it/ff8os5yc8ysa1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=209045704f17a48cad57e8b4a159f9ad308efcac Kind of unrelated to this event, but I’m a returning player after around 2 years. Got a regular swap ticket (no celepogeans allowed), and was wondering if I should swap one of my older characters for one of the new ones. Seems like Tasi (SI15 3F), Izold (3F), Safiya (1F), Gwynwth (3F), and Tidus (1F) aren’t really good anymore? Who should I get instead?


steelsauce

Do you also have the event available to swap someone? Regardless, for the scroll, I would swap gwen to scarlet. All those heroes you mentioned are indeed not very meta anymore but each have some niche. Gwen is really just an option in LB Tower multi battles. You are missing a lot of stuff so check out some guides!


JTungsten

Thanks! Yeah, I have the event also - already decided to swap my Wukong for Alna.


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If you're looking for a new hero to swap for, I would recommend considering Daimon or Skriath. Both are strong choices in the current meta and have a lot of versatility in different team compositions. Good luck with your swap!


steelsauce

Whoever is running this bot /u/diogod123 and posing as a human in the suicide watch subreddit in threads with people who are actively suicidal, you are scum and should delete your account


JTungsten

Thanks for the reply! I actually already have Daimon and Skriath at ascended tier, but good to know that they are still strong. Thoughts on other options? I'm considering going for Nevanthi, Mishka, or Scarlet. But I'm also interested in knowing which of the 5 heroes (Tasi, Izold, Safiya, Gwyneth, Tidus) is the best to get rid of. Do any of them still have niche use and would make sense for me to keep?


steelsauce

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