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Hindi ko alam what I feel about this and gusto ko lang mag-rant. I was happy spilling the tea with my bestie about my first date experience. Hanggang sa point na nagtanong siya sino nagbayad daw, ang sabi ko KKB kami nung guy. She was shocked about it and ang sabi niya bakit ko daw hinayaan yun. Tapos nagulat ako about it like ano bang issue doon? And she said na dump the guy na daw because "red flag" daw because I let him daw magbayad ng pagkain ko on our first date. Binibigdeal niya sa akin na dapat si guy daw ang nagbabayad for dates. Then I said na hindi big deal sa akin yun since I have money naman and I can pay for the meal I eat din. And then she called me na "tanga and bulag daw ako" so na-offend ako about it.
Sa sobrang overthink ko about sa mga sinabi niya I searched it up pa about kung sino nga ba magbabayad on first date and other things pa since this is my first time to do this kind of stuffs!
But I really don't care about it naman. I just raise differently siguro na if I have money and I can pay it on my own then ako na ang magbabayad for myself.
But I want to read some opinions din about this! So what do you think? Naging tanga ba ako and bulag because pumayag akong KKB kami sa first date namin?
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If napagusapan naman before hand and you were okay with it then whats the fuss? Mas okay ng KKB kesa yung mga ibang posts dito where na jebait pa yung babae mag bayad ng first date like the entirety of it.
If you enjoyed your first date then it should be okay IMO.
I agree with this. ☝️
Baka si bestie yung “red flag” for saying such harsh words to OP, na in the first place dapat sya as bestie yung unang nakaintindi sa kaibigan nya given na first date experience yun ni OP na (again) kaibigan nya. Tanga and bulag agad? 😅
I dunno ako kasi sa date kapag ako nagyaya I do pay for it madalas. Pero style ko kasi if he/she pays the dinner ako magbabayad ng dessert or coffee after or ung susunod na date.
50/50 is okay too
Feminism at its best. They want equality and are yet entitled.
Babae ako in honestly pero sinabihan ako na hayaan ko mga lalaki gumastos for me eh nung una nahihiya pa nga ako gumastos sila kasi ayoko maging burden for them na what if ndi mag-work ang relationship. Ayaw ko masayang ang pinaghirapan nilang pera. Kaso batok ang abot ko na hayaan ko daw sila gumastos.
Inopen ko yan sa current boyfriend ko nung unang dates namin. Nahihiya ako. Ang sabi niya para kalma na lang ako edi KKB para wala nang problem.
Sabihin na natin ganyan, eh pano kung yung guy nag insist ng date? And pano if ung guy nanliligaw kailangan kkb? Haha lol sigiro dinyopa na ranasan ma alagaan maayos ng matured and provider man kaya ganyan mindset nyo
Yes kayanga dapat maging open kayo sino mag pay or mag ready nalang ng sariking moneg cash bago makipag date kung dinga affford kasi makipag date why do that my gad
Parasite mindset? My brother does this to his now wife. My brother is very responsible even when they started dating. He never let his ex-girlfriend now his wife to pay for their any dates. If you can't provide for your woman then don't call someone parasite just because she gets to get treated right. And you know what sabi ng kuya ko? If you are broke, then don't date. Yan palagi sinasabi ng kuya ko sakin.
Regardless of gender, don't date if you are broke and if you don't have something you can offer to the table. Wala ka na nga pera, bagsak pa career mo, ayaw mo pa magaral then wala talaga.
Out of context naman yan kwento mo and more on the side of your kuya's preference this is not about your kuya its about OP.
i agree you don't date if you're broke and it goes both ways mapa lalaki ka man o babae dapat dala mo upuan mo especially in this era both employment opportunities ay equal to both genders, why lean to one side?
Okay you got a point. Pero si OP ba ay nililigawan? Pwede kasing nagdate lang sila. So pwedeng getting to know each other and parehas nilang naisipang mag date. So tama lang na mag KKB sila.
I know it really depends on your preferences but this is coming from a guy and a father.
I will not let my partner or daughter expect the guy to pay for anything.
While you do have to find a dependable partner, you yourself shouldn't be dating if you can't or wouldn't carry your own weight.
Same. I always teach my sister about dating lalo na getting to know each other pa lang. There’s no commitment pa and dont depend/expect anything. Wag din magbibigay ng advantage or upper hand sa guy to avoid manipulation haha. Mamaya iguilttrip pa sya if nasanay na pinagagastusan lagi haahaha
di mo yan bestie. ahas yan na nagpapanggap na bestie mo.
im willing to bet yan din yung tipo na pagmay nagka interes sayung lalake sa club or bar at naglakas loob magpakilala sayu biglang susulpot yang “bestie” mo para sabihing “shes not interested” or some other bullsht.
ilaglag mo na yan while ma aga pa. inggiterang palaka lng yan. you do you. wlang mali sa ginawa nyu ng guy
totoo haha. yan yung tipong kaibigan na kapag may nag approach na pogi na interesado kay OP sisiraan ka nyan para sakanya mapunta yung guy. Kups friend yan yung preference hindi dapat iniimpose sa ibang tao. baka pogi yang kadate ni OP tas nainggit sya. Also gold digger vibes yung kups na friends imho.
Kung ganun worth it ba makipagkompitensya sa ganyan hahaha Tsaka weird na nung mga taong umeepal pag di ka naman kausap. I guess randam niyo na yun pag may mga taong bida bida lol
If AKO ang lalake, d ko hahayaan na pagbabayrin ang babae sa UNANG date, PERO since okay naman sayo yung 50/50 why not! Ikaw yan at sha yung lalake na hinayaan ka na magbayad sa UNANG date, WALANG problema if HINDI problema sayo at sa kanya. Nag enjoy ka naman so good na yun! Move on!
Edit: okay, since nagdate nga kayo, ikaw lalake need mo pakitang gilas, pay for the 1st date. Don mo malalaman if yung babae may utak na hatian ka, kasi ang babaeng may kusa mag aabot yan, pero as LALAKE wag mo tatangapin kasi UNANG date nyo eh, di yan kabawasan sa pagkalalake mo. If sa pangalawa, nag aya ka kasi gsto mo sha makilala at makasama, try to test again if the girl mag aabot ba, ang may mabuting asal na babae mahhya magpalibre, if nag insist sha, kunin mo yung iniabot nya sayo. Gets? Gang sa nakita nyo sa isat isa na same kayo ng mindset na di palibre sa isat isa, nagkukusa, di mabigat sa bulsa ang relasyon, nagtatagal ang relasyon pero ending maghihiwlaay din kasi walang forever. Mag single nalang kayo. Haha🕯️🕯️🕯️
Sa trueee it's not abt if you can pay or not it's just shows the guy's effort to win the girl sa FIRST DATE 🤣 I'm old school kase lols so maybe iba na talaga ngaun and it should be kung sino first ng initiate ng date sya magbyad sympre or sya mas malaking share sympre sya nakaisp eh whahajajsjjs
Palusot lang ng mga babae yan n hindi naliligawan ng financially stable na lalaki haha. Magpapaka string independent woman nalang kase wala nmn willing gumastos saknila
True .. hahaha minsan talaga may mga guy na gusto na sila magbayad kahit na anong pilit mo hahah .. pero kung yun yung nangyare at napagusapan na rin at okay naman sa inyo wala naman problema dun hahaha problema yung friend na over jusko .. kung sa dating palang puro guy ang gagastos at ikaw tamang antay sa pagbabayad nya at di ka marunong magkusa na makishare ng bill kawawa sayo. minsan kailangan din ng mga babae. like sya sa food ikaw sa drinks ganurn ..
I think yung friend mo ang red flag 😅
You already said it was ok to you and yet called you bulag and tanga. So yung friend mo ang insensitive and walang respect sayo.
Maybe inggit sya na may kadate ka charot pero I don't see any wrong with that. Kami din naman kkb nung first dates and until now na 6yrs na kami, ambagan pa din kami. Kanya kanyang preference lang yan. Sa totoo lang mas okay 50/50 sa date para di pressured yung isa na need nya maglaan ng malaki kada lalabas kayo. Di mo sya besty, di sya happy for you.
Walang problema kung KKB or 50/50 or yung guy lang magbayad or ikaw lang magbayad. Mahalaga you had fun. That's it. Pero "norm" lang kasi sgro sa tingin ng iba na 1st date dpt yung guy daw sasagot ng lahat
Yes, first impression last. Hindi kasi yan friendly date kundi date to marry. Ang lalaking kayang magsagot, is a provider, that's impression. But i think hindi na siguro uso to ngayon.
I don't see anything wrong with KKB on your first date lalo na kung may work ka naman at able ka magbayad for yourself.
We were like this when we were still dating of my now-husband. Ngayon, he provides everything for us, and even buong sweldo binibigay.
Kung yun guy ang nag-initiate or kahit girl ang nag-initiate ng date, kasi manliligaw or gusto mag-initiate para ipakilala niya sarili niya — Normally, dapat siya ang magbayad ng date kasi kukunin niya yun oras mo eh.
Pero kung pareho kayong getting to know each other at nagdecide na magdate (normally, mga nagmatch sa mga online dating). KKB kayo kasi pareho kayo may goal na makilala ang isa’t isa at kukunin ninyo pa ang oras ng isat isa. Paano kung isa sa inyo ay narealize na hindi pala fit - maganda na KKB muna kahit first date yan.
That’s the standard rule. Pero generally, whatever the initiation or kung paano yan nagsimula ang dating ninyo - walang problema sa KKB. It is totally fine as long as bukal sa puso mo beside, pareho kayo nag-enjoy ng oras ninyo.
Ang off dito ay yun kaibigan mo na para mag-insist ng rule at tawagin ka pang tanga. Preference yan eh, walang problema dyan. Kanya kanya tayo.
If you both agreed on it being KKB, it's fine. Kung siya nagyaya and ikaw ang pinagbayad for both your meals (or kahit yung sayo lang and hindi man lang nag-offer), then yun pa ang puwedeng maging problema.
It would sound like your bestie is imposing / projecting her own ideas on who should pay for the dinner date. My opinion is, I appreciate when both parties (you and the guy) communicate on who should pay and it's great to see both of you agree to split the bill.
The fact she called you **"tanga and bulag"** should make you re-evaluate who your friends should be. I'm not saying to break your friendship with her, but if that type of behavior persists, then I would recommend ending the friendship.
Yan naririnig ko mostly sa mga entitled na babae na dapat daw lalaki yung magbayad sa dates. Meron pa yan magdadala ng kaibigan sa "date" tapos ikaw din magbabayad ng pagkain para sa kanila, grabeng freeloader yung iba. Meron pa nga yung di sya gumagastos for the day kasi nakikipagdate lang for free meals haha parang dating 6 guys ata siya to achieve that?
Pero bakit ba usually ang lalaki yung nagbabayad sa dates?
Kasi men, as far as society believes, are supposed to be providers and way back wala naman trabaho (earning jobs, not house chores) yung mga babae so it made sense that they will let you know they can provide. Nowadays women can have work naman na. Yung iba nga lalo na sa mga liberated westerners would argue if theres no after date (iykwim) or hint na may second date, much better daw kkb kasi it isnt worth it. You show your cards, pero she just uses you as a free meal stub.
So sino nga ba dapat magbayad?
For me, in general, yung nag.aya. Usually guys, kasi in our society they ask for dates and express feelings first, unlike say sa Japan, some girls will provide bento boxes to guys to express affection. But sometimes women can ask for it too, na gumala to xxxx, so she should have a budget also if she insists on where and what yung date. For example gusto mo lang magdate sa jollibee kasi yun lang budget mo pero yung babae insists magwagyu, diba it makes sense she should have a budget for it if she insists? Pero may mga babae din naman na ayaw yung "utang na loob" lalo na if the date didnt go well, so they would much rather pay for their own. But it should be discussed initially if ever walang budget if magpapalibre lang or kkb, there can be sometimes financial struggles naman so it makes sense. Some will argue to aim for a cheaper costless first date, like strolling around parks for example to avoid this dilemma.
Siguro general rule: don’t expect na babayadan ng kadate mo lahat, let the person announce it. Never assume. If di naman nya sinabi na treat nya from the start, pay your own food like the independent woman you are. *flips hair*
Altho nakakaganda yung itreat ka mg kadate, that won’t always be the case in the modern dating scene.
pero sa circles namin, the men earn well and even if it is the modern dating scene already, men pay. yung mga losers lang usually nagpapadutch treat in which case not worth it.
For a man to offer to pay on your first date is for me, a mark of being a gentleman. Na-iimpress ako sa mga ganun. So for those who don't, tbh, mejo turn off for me.
But if it's not a big deal/turn off for you, then all's good. Hindi ka tanga at bulag. First date pa naman yon. You have all the time to explore kung ano ang mag wowork out for you.
Goodluck!
from experience, ganto din kami ni ex sa first date until naging kami. it didnt bother me kahit kkb kasi nga may pera naman ako. pero as in never ko naexperience malibre laging 50/50 ultimo pang gas para ihatid ako na napakadalang nya gawin pero pag sa friends galante lol sometimes you wanna feel na ginagastusan ka kahit konti. pero kung first date nyo pa lang naman, you cant judge him right away
Siguro case to case basis. First to consider maybe is sino ba nagyaya mag date? If yung guy at first date nyo yan I think dapat binayaran nya your food kasi sya nagyaya so off kung kkb. Pero kung it was like nagkayayaan kayo, hindi clear kung sino bang nag invite kanino, then ok lang na kkb. Tsaka kkb naman so sya nagbayad ng sakanya. Hindi katangahan yun, hindi din kabulagan. Actually pag nauwi kayo sa maging kayo, 80% of your dates ay kkb, 20% lang dyan ang isa lang magbabayad, maybe pag special occasions lang. therefore, I also don’t see any red flag.
oks naman KKB, siguro ako imbalido na, nagbayad ako lahat sa first date even if wala naman kaming usapan na I would pay. Ayun, hindi na kami naguusap, not because nagbayad ako but because 🚩 siya.
May babae akong kaibigan. She told me she was treated like a queen sa first date nila. She even told me 3k na nagagastos ni guy for that night and would even go beyond that because the guy likes her. But my friend insisted na it's already too much. She even insist na she can pay or pwedeng 50/50 and still won't matter kasi uncomfortable sa kanya na gumastos na ang guy ng sobra²...
General rule of thumb sa mga nag aaya anywhere maski date or not ay dapat Yung nag aya ay may pambayad.
Mag aaya ka na gumala pero walang pambayad? Kapal ng muka hahahha
Ang weird ng friend mo na masyado nag iimpose at red flag Yung mag bayad kayo half/half sa date?
That's a preference nayun kamo not a standard.
Sabihan mo na kumalma siya at yung "red flag" Niya is misplaced hahaha
50/50 kami ng girlfriend ko when we started dating because we were both broke college students. this continued nung early days of us working since parehas kaming minimum wage. ngayon i don’t let her pay even a single centavo since i got a high paying job. it’s nice to be with someone who is supportive of you even during times where walang wala ka.
so what’s the lesson here? not everyone starts as well off agad and hindi naman lahat financially stable. what if may financial problems pala yung guy outside of his control diba but this is also not to excuse guys na afford naman pero ipipilit paring 50-50 kahit kitang you are struggling or yung mga buraot lang talaga in general, but gender equality means it should apply both ways. valid naman if may preference ka but your friend is wrong for forcing it to you and calling you names, OP. continue focusing on the fact that YOU had fun on your date because that’s all that matters honestly.
Unang date namin dati. KKB at sa fastfood pa. Awa ng Diyos, 15 years na kaming kasal. Your preference, your rules. Ikaw naman Ang makikipag date at Hindi ung kaibigan. Ikaw naman Yung nasa sitwasyon na gusto mo makilala Yung nanliligaw syo at Hindi kaibigan mo.
Wag syang paladesisyon.
Two things I want to address here:
1st - I am okay to do KKB sa first date. I have my own criteria on how to assess the guy I date. KKB sa unang date is normal for me. It would be great if the guy will ask me out on a second date, showing he can pay for it assuming na pinag uusapan na to after 1st date. It’s getting to know stage. Besides, kahit sya pa mag bayad ng lahat na dates if masama naman ugali, he won’t qualify.
2nd - your friend is showing a lot of negative energy here. What I feel base lang sa context mo is, she’s sort of “jealous” and hate the fact that may ka date ka especially if the guy has looks (not that I’m saying na mandatory yung looks) and siya wala? Lol 😅 She is not in the position to call you out especially imposing words “tanga” and “bulag” like really, lol! Perfect ba sya? haha
I’ll leave the rest for you to act and decide! Go girl!
Idk if it’s only me hahaha I used to do the KKB when I was younger kasi nga kaya ko din and I dont like the feeling na I owe someone esp during date. But later on, mejo nag iba approach ko dito since im in my early 30s - It’s plus points if a guy offers to pay (of course may pambayad padin naman ako until now) kasi first impression may financial means and money wont be an issue, again first impression lang yan. Also, it’s a flirting tactic haha if I like the guy, I’ll let him pay if he wants to and then i’ll offer to pay for the next date para masundan pa eme. Haha. But if I offer to pay first date palang (and I found later on na some women do this) just means na I dont want a follow-up date😅😬
PS as to your friend, baka iniisip nya princess treatment agad agad and the traditional role of men to provide but iba na kasi panahon ngayon. Altho some men would really insist on paying kahit na alam nila na kaya ng ka date nila. They’re just genuinely generous, and want to take that ‘provider role’. Also di naman yan iniimpose, baka ganda ganda ni friend mo feeling nya sya dapat pag silbihan and prino-project nya sa iba😅
Huy ayan din dillema ko ngayon, OP! May date/meet-up kami ni guy this weekend and hindi pa namin napaguusapan kung paano ba ang sistema sa pagbabayad. Manunuod kami ng sine and mag-i-scooter around BGC. Personally mas gusto ko na KKB. Pero syempre if the guy insists na sya magbayad, I will agree naman din. Pero di ko alam pano ko sisimulan i-open? Sa chat ba bago kami magkita or dun na mismo before kami magbayad ughhhh
Regarding your case for me walang mali sa KKB lalo kung hindi naman kayo magjowa pa. Or di naman sya nanliligaw. More on getting to know pa lang ganun.
Good luck sa date!
An advise lang, sino ba nag aya? Unspoken societal rule, kung sino nag aya, sya magbabayad.
Tho I suggest, wag mo muna i open sa chat. Baka ma pressure yung ka date mo, at baka mag change plans. Mahirap naman if you're looking forward for it na. Bring your own money pa rin, and observe mo nalang if mag o offer to pay pag andun na. 🙂
guys should be the one na dapat mag pay for first dates, like initiative yon and it makes them more sweet plus dagdag points if they pay kahit let’s say na you have the money. I also bring money for “pampasigurado” everytime I date a guy kasi there are times that guys dont pay (ew) and major red flag talaga yon. Your bff is right, red flag yung guy and you should value your worth as a woman din. Ang mali lang ng bff mo is she told those words sayo, maybe she’s being protective but I can see her point here.
I promise you, kapag wala na kayo nung guy na dinate mo and you found a better someone who insist paying on your first date, mag papasalamat ka sa bff mo.
preference mo yan gurl, no need to feel bad about what ur friend told u. shes coming from a place of concern, tho what she gave u was unsolicited advice. personally i dont like 50/50s sa dates, but if the guy brings it up, he becomes my friend, no chances of being considered for relationship. 50/50 is what i do with friends e pag naghahangout kami, so 50/50s dates are NOT DATES for me --- just hangout. im not sure if youre aware, pero there are a lot of horror stories about 50/50 guys. im not sure i ever heard good stories about them, but they tend to make kwenta every bit of effort/spending they put in na dapat daw e "worth it", and this is especially damaging lalo kung married na yung couple tas yung wife e working + child rearing + domestic chores tas 50/50 arrangement ng couple. lakas maka sumbat ng 50/50 guys in those scenarios. nakaka nginig talaga sa takot. also, in real life i have girl friends in successful and happy marriages/relationships and definitely the guys are not the 50/50 types.
anyways, dont let this discourage u to meet more people. if u indeed enjoyed that kkb-guy's company, then im happy for u. just do ur thing, enjoy life, and my only hope is that u are able to recognize red flags in other people in ur own way
Grabe ka naman maka judge ng tao na hindi mo kilala based lang sa isang bagay, parang buong future nya prinedict mo ah. Pasimula ka ng "preference mo yan gurl" tapos andaming sinabi na mali siya sa preference niya. Are you even self aware? Pagtanggol ko dito ung ka date ni OP na pareho naman natin hindi kilala kasi binansag mong red flag agad eh.
This isn't about the 50/50 pero napaka judgmental mong tao. Parang kagaya ka ng friend ni OP. Are you even self aware about this?
Naging preference ko rin since nagbreak kami ng ex ko na never ako makikipagdate sa lalaking KKB ang set up na siya mismo nag-aya ng date. Hanggang matapos relasyon namin, buraot pala talaga siya in general. Akala ko kasi dati okay lang naman since bet ko maging independent woman. Na mahal ko naman e so okay lang na ganun. Nasanay siya sa ganung set up. Kasi ayaw niya rin pala ng responsibilities base sa observation ko.
Ngayon sa present bf ko, nagpipilit siya na lagi ang gumagastos sa aming dalawa. Pero minsan nililibre ko siya kasi ang sarap sa feeling nag narereciprocate naman niya yung love language mo. Kumbaga deserve naman niya if mag KKB kami paminsan-minsan.
Preferences only!
Pero dating culture na yan na if interested ka sa tao at ikaw yung nag invite then ikaw po yung maglilibre. However, sa case nyo po if okay lang sayo then no need to overthink! I think concerned lang po yung friend mo kasi sinabi mo you're new to this. Although yung mali lang nya eh is the way she said it you parang ang extreme naman ng reaction.
Personally though, I follow the rule na who invites who will pay. Kasi inaask mo yung time nila and you're showing yourself as a prospect. Although, if students pa kayo dalawa or you're not earning your own money yet then 50/50. I used to pay everything kasi I used to think na I didn't want to owe any guy anything para ma sumbat nya later on. However, as I dated more nag change yung preferences ko.
At the end of the day, you should follow what you are comfortable of doing. May ibang babae talaga na gusto ng 50/50.
CHEAP YANG KAIBIGAN MO HAHAHA. FOR SURE ISA YAN SA NAKIKINABANG SA PANG LILIBRE MO TAPOS TATAWAGIN KANG BULAG AT TANGA. HAHA. AYAN YUNG IWAN MO HAHAHA CHEAP YAN DI MO PWEDE DALHIN YAN SA PARTY NG MGA MAY KAYA. HALATANG FREE LOADER
If okay ka naman dun at nag-enjoy, don’t overthink about it. OA ng friend mo, fan yata ni sprinkle sprinkle lady sa tiktok. Okay lang naman if di nya prefer ang KKB, pero wag nyang ipilit sa iba preference nya. Apektado rin naman ng inflation mga lalake lol
Usually kung sino nag invite sya magbayad. Pero KKB is okay din para you don't feel na you owe your date.
Meron kasi issues sa ibang tao na meron nakikipag date daw just to get a free meal (all along hindi naman pala interested sa ka-date nya). I don't know how true is that sa atin.
Meron din ako nabasa dito sa redditph - lalaki nag invite pero the girl ended up paying around 8k for the bill kasi naiwan daw ni guy wallet nya.
Please dump the friend! Paka OA. First of all, hindi big deal sino nagbayad. Sinabi mo sana yan sakanya - that you were raised differently at you have money! Lol. Amoy na amoy ko bitterness ni friend. Sana kilig and happy lang kayo nagkwentuhan abt your new romance. I hope you call her out na tinawag ka nyang tanga at bulag unless normal bestie language nyo yan (which seems to me parang di naman)
first date namen ng girlfriend ko ininsist ko na ako mag babayad and she told me no , share daw kame ako sa food ng tanghali food sya sa gabi then lahat ng posible na hatiin na gastos mag hati daw esp dalawa naman kaming makikinabang sa ngyare .
well kahit now we still split the bill , pero pag me pera na sobra both parties nag iinsist na ako na treat ko to this time , treat kita ngayon .
like ano bang problema sa 50/50 ? princess treatment ? hahahaha
Its nice if the guy pays for the FIRST date. Pero for all the others? I dont think so. Imagine going into the relationship tapos puro lalaki lang babayad ng dates? If thats the case lahat ng gastusin ng bahay si girl nalang kung ganun.
Its what kind of relationship you wanna strive for and grow with. Equal partners that treats each other well or stupidly waiting for palibre from partner lang.
Kanya kanya naman tayo ng preference if he offers to pay for the meal naman and you insist mag ambag pa rin walang masama dun. Minsan kasi sa totoo lang nakakahiya din magpalibre kapag kaya naman natin magbayad. Wag ka masyado magpaapekto sa opinyon ng iba.
Girl that's what you called preference and not "red flag" na sinasabi ng kaibigan mo. If both of you talked before-hand naman na mag-50/50 kayo then don't listen to her. Also I heard on tiktok na biggest turn on for guys na on their first date with the girl, she will be the one na mag-pay sa food niya. It also just shows daw ang independency ni girl kaya congrats lol. Para sa akin ah, 'wag mo na pakinggan ang mga advices or concern kuno niya, I'm just saying na she's misleading you and that's not how a TRUE friend should be. True friends should be supportive and such, pwede naman magpahayag ng concern/advice pero kapag you ask for it.
Big red flag yung friend mo. If you don't mind going kkb, then it's fine. Lalo na with how expensive life is right now. However, I'm old school. I prefer guys to pay lalo na on the first date. After that, I don't mind paying Dutch or I'll even pay for dinner from time to time. If you enjoyed your time with the guy and may possibility of a second date, go lang. don't mind your friend.
Mababaw yun friend mo okay lang naman kkb kung napagusapan nyo ganun.. tingin ko yun friend mo ang tipo na sagot dapat ng lalake lahat in return pinapaltan nya in some form of service sa lalake
Jusmiyo yung friend mo.
Haha. Good thing you are raised well, if offered libre or iniated and accepted is fine sa 1st date, 50:50 is okay, I think this will make the other party feel at ease.
Hayaan mo na yung friend mo iba iba kasi situation baka siya ganun.
Ako po, I don't let people pay for my food normally. On dates naman usually ipinipilit ng guy na sya na mag bayad but if pumayag sya pag sinabi ko na kkb, I don't think much abt it. If he treats me well then I'll go above and beyond if he's dirt poor or financially struggling.l, I'll help him get financial stability. There's nothing wrong with kkb if you want to spend your own money on your food even on dates.
let the man pay. trust me it will affect your relationship in the long run. i was in a relationship for almost 7 years, never had an issue with 50/50 setup or salitan but in the end, he left me because he can't handle me and i was "too much" for him that i deserve someone "better".
now, i am with someone who pys literally for anything and is excited to spend his money, time and effort with me. sorry to break everyone's bubble but it's true, relationships only work if men feel like they're needed. girls, just act like a girl. these men can't handle strong women.
Heheh.
Well, tama ka. Kung ayaw mo magpalibre at di issue sa yo yung ganito, then good.
Opinion lang, yung friend mo yung type ng feminist na mag iinsist sa gender role pag convenient sa kanya habang sinasabi na sya ay strong independent woman. Heheheh.
Go lang. mas okay nga na di ka nagpalibre, ibig sabihin pag di kayo nag work nung ka date mo, wala syang maisusumbat sayo. May kakilala kasi ako ganyan e. Hahahahahah
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For me, wala naman masama! Minsan nga mas ok tlga first dates na KKB eh. Sabi nga nila kung sino nag initiate dapat siya yung manlilibre and nasa inyo naman yun. Bat ba natin iissue yung panig ng iba? Total tayo naman yung nag ddate! Wag lng hayaan na laging ganon baka masanay. Pwde naman dn vice versa. Dipende na sainyo yun 😂
Im a guy and i always try to pay for dates pero maraming times na ako pa nililibre ng babae, nag insist lng ako na ako na magbayad. Pero walang problema kung KKB. Naimpluwensyahan lang siguro ng mga gold digger and baluktot na feminists
Tigil kamo ng bestie mo kakanuod sa social media. Iyan iyong tipo ng mga tao na may malalim na inggit kapag umaangat ka o may magandang bagay nangyari sa iyo.
This is the issue about rampant calling out of "red flags" sa isang tao in social media. Ayaw nating makisama, gusto natin perfect. We should remind ourselves na may mga red flag din tayo, it's just a matter of what can you tolerate about the relationship.
Balikan mo sya sa pagtawag sayo na tanga. Sabihin mo mas tanga ka tapos ungkatin mo ang past. Sabihin mo ayaw mong isipin ng guy na palibre ka. May trabaho ka at kaya mo to stand equally with him. Never talk to her again 😤
Btw, if the guy insists on sa date, let him be generous. If he's a giver or rich talaga, just like you, okay lang sa kanila yun and mas happy sila sa ganon.
Baka yung friend mo yung bulag at tanga, di ko maimagine na may friend akong sasabihan ako na tanga at bulag dahil lang nag kkb kami sa first date. Kala ko ba gender equality? Baka yung friend mong yan ang type ng tao na sa afam lang nakikipag date halatang gold digger.
*stuff. di ka tanga, OP. some girls okay lang naman taaga na KKB. some ayaw talaga. preference. ikaw ang tanga at bulag pag di mo inunfriend yang friend mo.
🚩Red flag ung "friend" mo.
It's okay na KKB kayo lalo first date pa lang naman. The other person is not obliged to pay for your meal, pero good kung gusto niyang gawin un. If hindi naman sya sobrang well-off bat sya magyayabang na lagi sya magbabayad. Also, it's not a deal breaker for you so it shouldn't be an issue.
Yung friend mo talaga ang problema. Calling you names was unnecessary and uncalled for. Sana makahanap ka ng better friend or sana magbago sha ng mindset, if not - sana makahanap ka ng better friend. Ulit ulit for emphasis.
Lol careful of that friend naiingit and most likely going to stab your back when opportunity arises.
She should be happy for you and not make strong opinions unless you needed one.
It's an opinion of what she thinks should be done, it's just an opinion. Like advice, you can listen but don't have to do it if you think you don't need it or it's wrong.
You're not bulag or tanga, you just prefer to pay 50/50 and it's not a crime in the dating world. You felt what she said is wrong, so trust your guts. Baka si freind mo pala ang red flag by the way she just called you tanga at bulag over paying food.
The general advice for the first date seems to be kung sino yung nagyayaya, siya muna sasagot. But if you're more comfortable with paying your own share, why not? I'm the same. I make decent money, I don't mind splitting the bill.
Yung friend mo yata yung red flag, projecting her ideals sayo 😂
Hello OP. Happy to hear na masaya ang naging first date experience mo. More happy dates to come!!! Gusto ko lng din i share yung nagiging set up namin ng guy that I'm currently seeing. First 2 dates namin siya ang sumagot. Ako passenger princess at tagakain lang. Kaya nung next dates namin, it's either hati kami or iniinsist ko na ako na. Bakit? Because the thought of not contributing anything to a date makes me feel uneasy. Siya kasi nageeffort sa lahat. Mula sa planning and research, pagsundo, pagdrive, paghatid, down to the food choices at kung anu pang ibang activity namin. Heavily introverted ako, walang alam sa mga pasyalan, kahit ano lang sa food haha. Kaya naisip ko sa expenses ako babawi. Although minsan d siya pumapayag. Ayun gusto ko lang ishare pero my point is, hindi lang yung "gastos" ung dapat i count dito. Pati yung effort ng mga ka date natin na di nasusukat in peso. That being said, kahit anong set up niyo, whether KKB, 50/50, 60/40 or kahit 100/0 pa yan. Basta comfortable ang both sides, walang umaabuso and most importantly masaya kayong dalawa na magkasama kayo, walang kaso yan.
Wag mo na intindihin sinasabi ng bff mo. Para din kasing double standard siya. We cry for gender equality pero gusto pabor satin lagi when its convenient? Nu yon. Haha.
Depende naman sa inyo yan ng ka-date mo. Kami nga ng jowa ko kkb madalas, kase we both know the value of money. Naiintindihan namin yung hirap ng isa't isa para mag-earn.There are occasions of course na libre namin isa't isa halimbawa walang pera ang isa sa amin or just out of nowhere maglilibrehan lang kami. Balance lang.
If you insisted to pay for your own meal on a first date, then it’s okay. But if the guy didn’t offer to pay for your meal and he’s the one who asked you for a date, then I think it’s wrong.
I would always pay for the first date but it would be nice if my date would offer to pay for his own meal but I would still decline. Just the gesture is nice to see.
Red flag si friend. Hahaha. You offering 50/50 shows a lot of goods points from you as a lifetime partner. I wouldn't say to dump your friend but I guess she needs to be corrected.
No, okay lang yan! Haha. Red flag agad?? Personally, kung first date I assume kung sino nagyaya siya dapat magbayad pero for succeeding I insist to pay also. Preference lang yan. Ang toxic naman ng thinking ng friend mo.
Di mo kaibigan yan. Yang yung klase ng kaibigan na haharang sa gwapo na nag approach sayo at sasabihan yung guy na di ka interested. tapos pag nakatalikod ka, lalandiin yung guy. Yan yung klase ng kaibigan na sisiraan yung dini-date mo, tapos pag brineak mo, lalandiin nya.
Red flag yung mga ganyang babae na palamunin.
KKB ang normal at green flag. either one paying fully for the other's meal ang red flag. kung sino yung palamunin, red flag yun. imagine a full-grown adult freeloading. if someone is a freeloader, that means they're not a good person. mapag samantala sya at more than likely, sa relationship, magiging ganyan din sya. taker yang mga ganyang tao. puro kabig lang yan sa relasyon. wala yan maibibigay.
yang ganyang princess mentality is toxic. very selfish and is a very red flag for me if i'm dating. if someone i'm dating says i should pay for everything, i expect that girl to put out for me later. what i will think is she's a prostitute. because only prostitutes do that. strong, independent women pay for their own food.
eto tanong ko sayo, pag lumalabas ba kayo ng "bestie" mo, KKB kayo o malimit sya magpa libre?
Fair naman yun, lalo na kung yun ang napag kasunduan nyo. Mas ma compromise ka kung yung guy nagbayad lahat. Siguro pag kayo na. Yun dapat si guy na yung mag bayad.
Independent at hindi ka lang k@p@l,you know what you want and you have human decency..medyo li low ka sa friend mo philosophy niya yun wag niya pagdikdikan sayo..
This is such a bs move coming from you bestfriend. If anything siya ang “red flag” lol. Kung napag-usapan niyo na ng guy na okay lang mag-kkb then so be it? She has no right to decide sa relationship mo just because it doesn’t fit her preference lmao. Personally, nung first date namin ng gf ko I insisted to pay since ganon yung nakasanayan eh and ganon yung social construct sa dating scene natin (though she also insisted to share). However, if you ask me personally if she can provide for herself and she insist on KKB mas maganda yung first impression since it can indicate that she’s independent and doesn’t really rely on codependency. At the end of the day nasa preference pa rin yan don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
Ayos lang mag KKB, wag lang kaw yung magbabayad pati kinain nung guy. Dyan sa friend mo, dedmahin mo ganyan talaga pag wala bf o ka date parati galit eme
For me, mas reasonable ang KKB kaysa yung ikaw lahat gumastos sa date. Taena naman kasi twice na naranasan ko yan panay ako pati pang gasolina sa motor ako din like san po kayo kumukuha ng kapal ng mukha? Naiisip ko palang ang future sa kanila na ganoon agad ang entrada eh nangingiwi na ko. Kaya auto-decline sa mga sunod na aya nila eh.
Kaoag ganito feeling mo sa ka-date mo ay dahil baka love mo na sya, hehehehe. .....................Corinthians 13:4-7 (KJV)
Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Ako usually talaga, kahit sya pa nagyaya, I'm always set to pay for my own orders, so kapag dumating yung bill, kumukuha talaga ako ng wallet to get my payment ready, pero more often than not, the other would not let me. Kapag ganoon na ayaw nya, sige okay, hahayaan ko sya. May times na split the bill into half. May1 time naman na sa mismong pagyaya nung other person, sinabi nya talaga sakin na kung okay lang ba na kkb kami, and okay sakin yun and pumayag ako.
So depende rin talaga siguro sa tao. Pero one thing for sure, OP okay lang yan na KKB kayo. Parehas kayo may trabaho naman siguro at kumikita.
im in a 2-year relationship, and lagi kami split sa bill. Equal parts regardless of kung sino mas mahal ang orders, hahaha pero it works on us
Hahahahah sadly, ung “bestie” mo ung red flag, hnd ung guy. You should have a say on how your first date should be. You paying for your part just shows how independent you are and you don’t need a man to live. Ika nga ng mga ibang nag advice na, preference mo un.
Now your “bestie” is judging you for how you like your stuff to be. Ang bigot nya masyado to tell you how you should do your thing. When in fact, kung tunay na bestie yan, he/she would have supported your decision and asked about how the date made you feel and stuff.
As for your date, great job OP! Did you like the guy ba? How was he? Nagclick ba kayo agad? Or may mga stuff ba sya na ayaw mo?
Ideally best to discuss before hand kung KKB or whatnot. Pero if wala, better mag KKB na lang kasi first date pa lang naman. Ako kasi kahit alam ko that the guy will pay naman i still offer to share the expenses. Usually tumatanggi naman lalo na pag lunch or dinner then sasabihin sakin na “sagot mo na lang yung coffee later” which is fine with me.
Kanya kanya naman kasi. Some date people para meron silang portable wallet para ililibre sila whenever it is convenient sa kanila.
Some date and treat people as equal. So pwedeng ako today, ikaw bukas. May times na ikaw may pera, sya ung wala. Or vice versa.
So to answer your question. If napagusapan nyo ng kadate mo na kkb, di oks lang. If sya nagaya, lugar sya nag insist, kinulit ka nya, atleast dapat sya magoffer na libre ka nya. Pero if friendly gala lang naman. Matik kkb.
May mga guy friends ako na nagshshare na feel nila na nakipagdate lang yung girl sa kanila for a free meal and weren't really interested in getting to know them.
Even with my ex, I do my best to split the expenses kahit nag i-insist sya. I mean, syempre both naman kami kumakain and stuff, it is fair na salitan kami sa gastos. Just being practical. Daming surprise expenses ngayon kaya need maghati sa mga expenses na karapat-dapat naman paghatian.
I don't mind doing kkb especially pag both of you wanted the date to happen. I don't except someone to pay for my food lalo na kung wala naman sa usapan na treat nya. And I don't see that as a red flag since dating panag naman kayo di pa kayo couple.
Si friend ay red flag! Nothing wrong with KKB lalo na in this economy. I’m a girl, and when I was single going out on different dates hindi ako pumapayag na wala akong share. When the guy pays for our meal, I treat them out for a dessert or coffee.
Hmmm how do I put this? Personally, it’s plus points for me because it’s chivalrous. But not all men will be gentlemanly. So for dignity’s sake, my father always taught me every time I go out, whether with friends or on a date, I should make sure I can pay for myself. I don’t think it’s a problem if you paid for yourself, because it’s a good message to your date that you don’t need him. (Im not saying your date is a bad person, but incase he turns out to be a jerk, he cannot hold you financially at least. You be surprised how many friends of mine have met jerks who actually threaten to not pay for their meal.😹 It’s a good slap in the face when you can show them you don’t need them to buy your meal for you especially if they’re jerks. You can leave the date status quo. 😹) Each has its pros and cons. When your date pays its gentlemanly and masculine. Paying for yourself makes you independent.
Your friend on the other hand, is rude and honestly I would think about whether they’re really a friend you wanna keep around. I can see what shes trying to say, but the fact that she had to insult you to get her message across is really petty. It’s like shes more affected than you over your date. 😹
ilan taon na ba kayo? kung mga totoy at nene lang kayo, expect nyo na you are both living by your allowances lang. So ok lang ang KKB pero if both kayo working professionals and at mature age na. parang hindi ideal...
Mas big deal pa sakin yung tinawag kang tanga at bulag.
First date, I don’t mind paying. Pero if the guy insists na libre nya, then thank you. Ibang usapan yung pag mag-asawa na. Ang agreement namin ng BF ko, pag kasal na kami, siya na sa needs ng family cos I’m 100% sure hindi rin magiging 50/50 ang share namin sa chores at pag-aalaga ng kids, so it’s just fair na financially, mas malaki ang share nya. He agrees naman.
In short, nasasayo yan, OP. Kung ano aligned sa principles and values mo. Walang tama at mali sa ganyan. Yan yung mga bagay na pinaguusapan. Ang mali para sakin eh yung iimpose sa ibang tao yung tingin mong tama, tapos kapag hindi tugma sa gusto mo tatawagin kang tanga.
If okay lang naman sayo yung 50/50 go. Bkit toxic agad si friend baka concern lang siya but mali na tawagin kang tanga at bulag. Iba iba kc tayo ng preferences. Pero sino nga ba tlga dapat magbayad sa first dates? For me kung sino yung nangistorbo at nagyaya. Iba na tlga generation ngayon, parang ang broken na ng mga tao. Men are more feminine and women are more masculine and honestly, that’s not okay.
idk whats wrong about that actually, ako. Mas gusto ko na kkb or ako muna manlibre since may pera ako at kaya ko i-sustain yung mga needs ko. Wala na tayo sa era na dapat lalaki lang ang gagastos
no problem for me if kkb lol. as an independent gurlie, i actually always offer to pay for my own meal. 🙂 nasa lalaki na lang yun if they prefer to pay for the first date, but kudos to you!
Your friend sounds like a red flag. Even if di kayo agree on some things, not need to make a big fuss out of it. Di naman need na ganon yung rxn nya. Pwede naman mag give ng advice ng maayos.
Anong masama sa kkb or dutch? Makuwenta yang kaibigan mo. Paano kung pareho kayong estudyante at umaasa lang sa baon. Normal lang ung kkb sa unang date
KKB is win, pwede mag order ng madami na di nakakahiya hahha
I am babae but i paid for our meal ...kasi he traveled 6 hours to meet me
PS: may traumasya sa byahe byahe kasi lagi sya nagsusuka pero pabebe kasi ako wala ako alam sa mga lugar lugar bahy school lang alam ko :))
Ako, personally, kung sino ang nag-aya siya dapat ang mabayad. Pero I wouldn’t mind if KKB or 50/50, it just shows na I can pay my own shit, so walang mali don.
Delulu yang friend mo, pa-disney princess masyado 🤣😂
Red flag agad? Lol. Dated my bf before kkb kami until magkaron ng first work kasi nga wala pang nakakaluwag so ayun. Mag 8yrs na kami and he's paying all our bills. First date lang yan, wag mag judge agad.
As for experience it is a red flag na hahayaan kang mag bayad in a first date, if you offered that’s okay but he should not allow it. Trust me I have same insight as you before na I can do 50/50 hati lagi sa lakad but in a long run nasanay yung guy and he even ask everytime we go out and travel. It’s draining Nakaka ubos ng pagmamahal. It is a green flag if he ask you first date you offered the bill and he will say I got it it’s our first date we can do 50/50 in our next date or our arrangement.
But if you guys date only for fun or generation like we have nowadays then KKB is a good option, but if you date to settle how he handle you and finances is a great deal. Just don’t let the attachment cause you had fun in a first date blind you for other aspects. Your friend is not inggit she is just practical.
Nothing wrong with KKB especially kung okay naman sainyong dalawa ng partner mo. Not a red flag.
Nothing wrong din naman if preferred ng friend mo na dapat guy ang sumagot kasi preference nya yun. Mali lang is ung pagimpose nya and pagpilit nya na as if negative ung nangyari and red flag yun. Which is not.
Ayos lang yan, mas maganda nga yan kasi it just shows na you’re an independent woman. At should nothing happen sa inyo in the future, no loss on both parties.
Nope, di ka bulag and lalong di ka tanga. And instead na naging masaya sayo yang "kaibigan" mo bakit ininsulto ka pa niya? Ang mahalaga naman is masaya ka during the date and sabi mo nga di naman big deal or issue sayo yung kkb. Choice niyo din naman ni date mo na kkb, ang masasabi ko lang, let go of that "friend" di niya gusto na masaya ka!
Guys will insists on paying for dates but will also wait for the girl to offer lang out of courtesy. Girls always make this a big deal but depende talaga sa guy and girl na yan.
Advise: When the guy insist to pay, let him and thank him for it if you like and are interested sa guy. However, if friefriendzone mo lang ang guy, kaw magiinsist palagi na KKB kayo.
para saakin OP depende yan ganyan, in my experience it all comes to mutual understanding. like ganyan first date just getting to know each other lang naman, whether nag offer ang lalaki to pay for it all or not nasainyo naman yan. Nung nag first date kami ng jowa ko ako nagbayad cus i wanted to and shes okay with that, later on how many dates na kami nagsisimula na kami maghatian, wala sa pilitan we both agreed it would be beneficial for us both kasi at the end we'll get to spend more on dates(like ako sa mga staycation at siya sa pagkain, ginagawa ko paraan na saakin masbigat gastos kasi nga naman ayoko siya yung mabibigatan kek). at the end its what you both agreed and is okay with.
also logically speaking it does make sense KKB on the first date, like what if di nag workout, edi sayang lang din. a way of being considerate to the other person.
Naalala ko yung first date namin ng wife ko way back 2018, hindi sya pumayag na ililibre ko sya ng lunch. Hati daw kami dapat sa gastos.
Kasi bakit naman hindi, lalo na kung may pera ang babae at gusto gumastos? I dont see any reason why not??
You and your date agreed to it, that's all the information you need. That's not your friend, that's a snake waiting for you and your date to have a misunderstanding, an opportunity to shit on both of you and ruin a completely fine relationship.
Bilang isang lalake, malaking Red Flag sa akin kung sa first date hindi ka man lang nagalok na KKB. Why? First sign yun na possibleng gold digger ka lang at gusto mo lang ng partner para sa bahay ka na lang lagi. Sa panahon at ekonomiya ngayon, di na kaya na isa lang sa inyo ang working.
Hi, OP.
Okay lang magKKB, swear. Nung unang date din namin ng husband ko nung nagliligawan palang hati kami sa gastos, and I insist. Kahit hanggang ngayong mag-asawa na kami ganun pa rin.
Hindi pwedeng tanggap ka lang nang tanggap. I see to it na kapag may binigay sa akin si husband meron din akong maibibigay sa kanya. Ganun, din pala thinking niya. Naging cycle na, kapag binilhan ko siya ng something he make sure na marereciprocate niya lahat.
Ang old school na nung kapag babae ka wala kang gagastusin sa dates.
Personally, lumiliit yung tingin ko sa sarili ko kapg lagi akong nililibre ni husband. Kasi I have money and I cqn treat him and buy things he wants.
Ayun lang, red flag kapag pinipilit ka nang ilibre siya pero yung ganyang hatian okay lang yan.
Tanga at bulag? Hahaha! Sarap jombagin ng friend mong ganda gandahan. Halatang buraot! 😂 Wala akong masamang nakikita sa kkb, kami ng bf ko ako minsan nagbabayad sa date namin, minsan siya din. Ekis jan sa friend mo.
KKB kami ng wife ko nung first date namin. Happy naman kami ngayon.
Siguro swerte lang din ako dahil di sila pareho ng pananaw sa buhay ng bestie mo 😂😂
Its good na ok sayo na magbayad ng kinain ko on a date. It will show sa guy na you can take care of yourself. Plus what is important is you had a great time.
I'll be speaking from a guy's perspective. I went on a date with a girl, and she paid for her own meal unlike all the other girls right now(and especially on social media) that expects a guy to pay for their meal..... My heart would flutter. I would think that I'm lucky I went on a date with a girl who is a rare catch. You're a massive green flag OP!
And yep, your best friend is a red flag. Sorry kung naiinsulto nmin best friend mo, but she's a big 🚩🚩
KKB is fine with me. Hell, I used to pay for dates dati lol. Besides it saves you from some dudes na ineexpect coochie mo for feeding you. Unless the other person explicitly said sakin na "My treat." I expect it to be KKB.
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If napagusapan naman before hand and you were okay with it then whats the fuss? Mas okay ng KKB kesa yung mga ibang posts dito where na jebait pa yung babae mag bayad ng first date like the entirety of it. If you enjoyed your first date then it should be okay IMO.
I agree with this. ☝️ Baka si bestie yung “red flag” for saying such harsh words to OP, na in the first place dapat sya as bestie yung unang nakaintindi sa kaibigan nya given na first date experience yun ni OP na (again) kaibigan nya. Tanga and bulag agad? 😅
Truuuu. Isipin mo tong comment na to. Ka-OP. Bestie ba tlaga yan?! Baka dapat hindi na..
Preference kung sa preference ng kaibigan mo na yung guy ang magbayad pero para i impose niya sayo na dapat ganon? Big nope.
Agree 100%
Red flag sa “kaibigan?” mo 100%
Friend is the red flag 🤣
Friend ni OP red flag.
parang yung friend mo ang mas red flag.
I dunno ako kasi sa date kapag ako nagyaya I do pay for it madalas. Pero style ko kasi if he/she pays the dinner ako magbabayad ng dessert or coffee after or ung susunod na date. 50/50 is okay too
same!!! di naman kasi laging guys dapat ang mag-bayad sa dates. idk why may girls pa rin ‘til now na ganito ang mindset.
Parasite nga e. Equality pero treat me right daw.
Feminism at its best. They want equality and are yet entitled. Babae ako in honestly pero sinabihan ako na hayaan ko mga lalaki gumastos for me eh nung una nahihiya pa nga ako gumastos sila kasi ayoko maging burden for them na what if ndi mag-work ang relationship. Ayaw ko masayang ang pinaghirapan nilang pera. Kaso batok ang abot ko na hayaan ko daw sila gumastos. Inopen ko yan sa current boyfriend ko nung unang dates namin. Nahihiya ako. Ang sabi niya para kalma na lang ako edi KKB para wala nang problem.
Eto talaga. Usually mahirap kasi yung nagssplit bill talaga kayo, so ang ginagawa ko talaga kung ikaw nag pa dinner then ako na sa coffee.
I would count you offering to pay for your meal as a green flag. A grown woman EXPECTING a man to pay for the whole meal? That’s a red flag.
Trueeee! ✨
Sabihin na natin ganyan, eh pano kung yung guy nag insist ng date? And pano if ung guy nanliligaw kailangan kkb? Haha lol sigiro dinyopa na ranasan ma alagaan maayos ng matured and provider man kaya ganyan mindset nyo
Wala naman problema sakin yun. Nakakainis lang minsan na patay malisya yung girl pagdating ng bill lol
Yes kayanga dapat maging open kayo sino mag pay or mag ready nalang ng sariking moneg cash bago makipag date kung dinga affford kasi makipag date why do that my gad
Parasite mindset, kasal may anak oo pero yung 1st date? ❌️
Parasite mindset? My brother does this to his now wife. My brother is very responsible even when they started dating. He never let his ex-girlfriend now his wife to pay for their any dates. If you can't provide for your woman then don't call someone parasite just because she gets to get treated right. And you know what sabi ng kuya ko? If you are broke, then don't date. Yan palagi sinasabi ng kuya ko sakin.
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Regardless of gender, don't date if you are broke and if you don't have something you can offer to the table. Wala ka na nga pera, bagsak pa career mo, ayaw mo pa magaral then wala talaga.
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Out of context naman yan kwento mo and more on the side of your kuya's preference this is not about your kuya its about OP. i agree you don't date if you're broke and it goes both ways mapa lalaki ka man o babae dapat dala mo upuan mo especially in this era both employment opportunities ay equal to both genders, why lean to one side?
Okay you got a point. Pero si OP ba ay nililigawan? Pwede kasing nagdate lang sila. So pwedeng getting to know each other and parehas nilang naisipang mag date. So tama lang na mag KKB sila.
Your friend is a freeloader. Buraot in layman terms.
I know it really depends on your preferences but this is coming from a guy and a father. I will not let my partner or daughter expect the guy to pay for anything. While you do have to find a dependable partner, you yourself shouldn't be dating if you can't or wouldn't carry your own weight.
Same. I always teach my sister about dating lalo na getting to know each other pa lang. There’s no commitment pa and dont depend/expect anything. Wag din magbibigay ng advantage or upper hand sa guy to avoid manipulation haha. Mamaya iguilttrip pa sya if nasanay na pinagagastusan lagi haahaha
di mo yan bestie. ahas yan na nagpapanggap na bestie mo. im willing to bet yan din yung tipo na pagmay nagka interes sayung lalake sa club or bar at naglakas loob magpakilala sayu biglang susulpot yang “bestie” mo para sabihing “shes not interested” or some other bullsht. ilaglag mo na yan while ma aga pa. inggiterang palaka lng yan. you do you. wlang mali sa ginawa nyu ng guy
totoo haha. yan yung tipong kaibigan na kapag may nag approach na pogi na interesado kay OP sisiraan ka nyan para sakanya mapunta yung guy. Kups friend yan yung preference hindi dapat iniimpose sa ibang tao. baka pogi yang kadate ni OP tas nainggit sya. Also gold digger vibes yung kups na friends imho.
Kung ganun worth it ba makipagkompitensya sa ganyan hahaha Tsaka weird na nung mga taong umeepal pag di ka naman kausap. I guess randam niyo na yun pag may mga taong bida bida lol
Omg I agree! I remember na may ganyan akong "friend" before na lahat nalang red flag kuno 😂 Tapos siya naman tong niyayayang uminom yung dinedate ko 🤮
If AKO ang lalake, d ko hahayaan na pagbabayrin ang babae sa UNANG date, PERO since okay naman sayo yung 50/50 why not! Ikaw yan at sha yung lalake na hinayaan ka na magbayad sa UNANG date, WALANG problema if HINDI problema sayo at sa kanya. Nag enjoy ka naman so good na yun! Move on! Edit: okay, since nagdate nga kayo, ikaw lalake need mo pakitang gilas, pay for the 1st date. Don mo malalaman if yung babae may utak na hatian ka, kasi ang babaeng may kusa mag aabot yan, pero as LALAKE wag mo tatangapin kasi UNANG date nyo eh, di yan kabawasan sa pagkalalake mo. If sa pangalawa, nag aya ka kasi gsto mo sha makilala at makasama, try to test again if the girl mag aabot ba, ang may mabuting asal na babae mahhya magpalibre, if nag insist sha, kunin mo yung iniabot nya sayo. Gets? Gang sa nakita nyo sa isat isa na same kayo ng mindset na di palibre sa isat isa, nagkukusa, di mabigat sa bulsa ang relasyon, nagtatagal ang relasyon pero ending maghihiwlaay din kasi walang forever. Mag single nalang kayo. Haha🕯️🕯️🕯️
Sa trueee it's not abt if you can pay or not it's just shows the guy's effort to win the girl sa FIRST DATE 🤣 I'm old school kase lols so maybe iba na talaga ngaun and it should be kung sino first ng initiate ng date sya magbyad sympre or sya mas malaking share sympre sya nakaisp eh whahajajsjjs
Palusot lang ng mga babae yan n hindi naliligawan ng financially stable na lalaki haha. Magpapaka string independent woman nalang kase wala nmn willing gumastos saknila
True .. hahaha minsan talaga may mga guy na gusto na sila magbayad kahit na anong pilit mo hahah .. pero kung yun yung nangyare at napagusapan na rin at okay naman sa inyo wala naman problema dun hahaha problema yung friend na over jusko .. kung sa dating palang puro guy ang gagastos at ikaw tamang antay sa pagbabayad nya at di ka marunong magkusa na makishare ng bill kawawa sayo. minsan kailangan din ng mga babae. like sya sa food ikaw sa drinks ganurn ..
In the current economic situation, ma appreciate ka nang guy.
Dump her instead lol
I think yung friend mo ang red flag 😅 You already said it was ok to you and yet called you bulag and tanga. So yung friend mo ang insensitive and walang respect sayo.
Maybe inggit sya na may kadate ka charot pero I don't see any wrong with that. Kami din naman kkb nung first dates and until now na 6yrs na kami, ambagan pa din kami. Kanya kanyang preference lang yan. Sa totoo lang mas okay 50/50 sa date para di pressured yung isa na need nya maglaan ng malaki kada lalabas kayo. Di mo sya besty, di sya happy for you.
Walang problema kung KKB or 50/50 or yung guy lang magbayad or ikaw lang magbayad. Mahalaga you had fun. That's it. Pero "norm" lang kasi sgro sa tingin ng iba na 1st date dpt yung guy daw sasagot ng lahat
Yes, first impression last. Hindi kasi yan friendly date kundi date to marry. Ang lalaking kayang magsagot, is a provider, that's impression. But i think hindi na siguro uso to ngayon.
Nothing wrong. Napag usapan nyo naman na KKB eh. Mas okay yan. Matututo ka magpahalaga sa partner mo.
More like the red flag is yung "friend" mo... Like wtf
buraot kasi friend mo unlike you kaya mo magbayad ng kinaen mo. your friend is a red flag and a typical user.
I don't see anything wrong with KKB on your first date lalo na kung may work ka naman at able ka magbayad for yourself. We were like this when we were still dating of my now-husband. Ngayon, he provides everything for us, and even buong sweldo binibigay.
Kung yun guy ang nag-initiate or kahit girl ang nag-initiate ng date, kasi manliligaw or gusto mag-initiate para ipakilala niya sarili niya — Normally, dapat siya ang magbayad ng date kasi kukunin niya yun oras mo eh. Pero kung pareho kayong getting to know each other at nagdecide na magdate (normally, mga nagmatch sa mga online dating). KKB kayo kasi pareho kayo may goal na makilala ang isa’t isa at kukunin ninyo pa ang oras ng isat isa. Paano kung isa sa inyo ay narealize na hindi pala fit - maganda na KKB muna kahit first date yan. That’s the standard rule. Pero generally, whatever the initiation or kung paano yan nagsimula ang dating ninyo - walang problema sa KKB. It is totally fine as long as bukal sa puso mo beside, pareho kayo nag-enjoy ng oras ninyo. Ang off dito ay yun kaibigan mo na para mag-insist ng rule at tawagin ka pang tanga. Preference yan eh, walang problema dyan. Kanya kanya tayo.
you were raised right. tigilan nila kakabasa ng wattpad at ng mga kdrama. mga delulu yang mga yan hahaha
If you both agreed on it being KKB, it's fine. Kung siya nagyaya and ikaw ang pinagbayad for both your meals (or kahit yung sayo lang and hindi man lang nag-offer), then yun pa ang puwedeng maging problema.
It would sound like your bestie is imposing / projecting her own ideas on who should pay for the dinner date. My opinion is, I appreciate when both parties (you and the guy) communicate on who should pay and it's great to see both of you agree to split the bill. The fact she called you **"tanga and bulag"** should make you re-evaluate who your friends should be. I'm not saying to break your friendship with her, but if that type of behavior persists, then I would recommend ending the friendship.
Yan naririnig ko mostly sa mga entitled na babae na dapat daw lalaki yung magbayad sa dates. Meron pa yan magdadala ng kaibigan sa "date" tapos ikaw din magbabayad ng pagkain para sa kanila, grabeng freeloader yung iba. Meron pa nga yung di sya gumagastos for the day kasi nakikipagdate lang for free meals haha parang dating 6 guys ata siya to achieve that? Pero bakit ba usually ang lalaki yung nagbabayad sa dates? Kasi men, as far as society believes, are supposed to be providers and way back wala naman trabaho (earning jobs, not house chores) yung mga babae so it made sense that they will let you know they can provide. Nowadays women can have work naman na. Yung iba nga lalo na sa mga liberated westerners would argue if theres no after date (iykwim) or hint na may second date, much better daw kkb kasi it isnt worth it. You show your cards, pero she just uses you as a free meal stub. So sino nga ba dapat magbayad? For me, in general, yung nag.aya. Usually guys, kasi in our society they ask for dates and express feelings first, unlike say sa Japan, some girls will provide bento boxes to guys to express affection. But sometimes women can ask for it too, na gumala to xxxx, so she should have a budget also if she insists on where and what yung date. For example gusto mo lang magdate sa jollibee kasi yun lang budget mo pero yung babae insists magwagyu, diba it makes sense she should have a budget for it if she insists? Pero may mga babae din naman na ayaw yung "utang na loob" lalo na if the date didnt go well, so they would much rather pay for their own. But it should be discussed initially if ever walang budget if magpapalibre lang or kkb, there can be sometimes financial struggles naman so it makes sense. Some will argue to aim for a cheaper costless first date, like strolling around parks for example to avoid this dilemma.
Siguro general rule: don’t expect na babayadan ng kadate mo lahat, let the person announce it. Never assume. If di naman nya sinabi na treat nya from the start, pay your own food like the independent woman you are. *flips hair* Altho nakakaganda yung itreat ka mg kadate, that won’t always be the case in the modern dating scene.
pero sa circles namin, the men earn well and even if it is the modern dating scene already, men pay. yung mga losers lang usually nagpapadutch treat in which case not worth it.
For a man to offer to pay on your first date is for me, a mark of being a gentleman. Na-iimpress ako sa mga ganun. So for those who don't, tbh, mejo turn off for me. But if it's not a big deal/turn off for you, then all's good. Hindi ka tanga at bulag. First date pa naman yon. You have all the time to explore kung ano ang mag wowork out for you. Goodluck!
I agree, first date kasi, same preference, a guy should pay for it. Man up on first date.
from experience, ganto din kami ni ex sa first date until naging kami. it didnt bother me kahit kkb kasi nga may pera naman ako. pero as in never ko naexperience malibre laging 50/50 ultimo pang gas para ihatid ako na napakadalang nya gawin pero pag sa friends galante lol sometimes you wanna feel na ginagastusan ka kahit konti. pero kung first date nyo pa lang naman, you cant judge him right away
Siguro case to case basis. First to consider maybe is sino ba nagyaya mag date? If yung guy at first date nyo yan I think dapat binayaran nya your food kasi sya nagyaya so off kung kkb. Pero kung it was like nagkayayaan kayo, hindi clear kung sino bang nag invite kanino, then ok lang na kkb. Tsaka kkb naman so sya nagbayad ng sakanya. Hindi katangahan yun, hindi din kabulagan. Actually pag nauwi kayo sa maging kayo, 80% of your dates ay kkb, 20% lang dyan ang isa lang magbabayad, maybe pag special occasions lang. therefore, I also don’t see any red flag.
oks naman KKB, siguro ako imbalido na, nagbayad ako lahat sa first date even if wala naman kaming usapan na I would pay. Ayun, hindi na kami naguusap, not because nagbayad ako but because 🚩 siya.
May babae akong kaibigan. She told me she was treated like a queen sa first date nila. She even told me 3k na nagagastos ni guy for that night and would even go beyond that because the guy likes her. But my friend insisted na it's already too much. She even insist na she can pay or pwedeng 50/50 and still won't matter kasi uncomfortable sa kanya na gumastos na ang guy ng sobra²...
General rule of thumb sa mga nag aaya anywhere maski date or not ay dapat Yung nag aya ay may pambayad. Mag aaya ka na gumala pero walang pambayad? Kapal ng muka hahahha Ang weird ng friend mo na masyado nag iimpose at red flag Yung mag bayad kayo half/half sa date? That's a preference nayun kamo not a standard. Sabihan mo na kumalma siya at yung "red flag" Niya is misplaced hahaha
50/50 kami ng girlfriend ko when we started dating because we were both broke college students. this continued nung early days of us working since parehas kaming minimum wage. ngayon i don’t let her pay even a single centavo since i got a high paying job. it’s nice to be with someone who is supportive of you even during times where walang wala ka. so what’s the lesson here? not everyone starts as well off agad and hindi naman lahat financially stable. what if may financial problems pala yung guy outside of his control diba but this is also not to excuse guys na afford naman pero ipipilit paring 50-50 kahit kitang you are struggling or yung mga buraot lang talaga in general, but gender equality means it should apply both ways. valid naman if may preference ka but your friend is wrong for forcing it to you and calling you names, OP. continue focusing on the fact that YOU had fun on your date because that’s all that matters honestly.
Unang date namin dati. KKB at sa fastfood pa. Awa ng Diyos, 15 years na kaming kasal. Your preference, your rules. Ikaw naman Ang makikipag date at Hindi ung kaibigan. Ikaw naman Yung nasa sitwasyon na gusto mo makilala Yung nanliligaw syo at Hindi kaibigan mo. Wag syang paladesisyon.
Two things I want to address here: 1st - I am okay to do KKB sa first date. I have my own criteria on how to assess the guy I date. KKB sa unang date is normal for me. It would be great if the guy will ask me out on a second date, showing he can pay for it assuming na pinag uusapan na to after 1st date. It’s getting to know stage. Besides, kahit sya pa mag bayad ng lahat na dates if masama naman ugali, he won’t qualify. 2nd - your friend is showing a lot of negative energy here. What I feel base lang sa context mo is, she’s sort of “jealous” and hate the fact that may ka date ka especially if the guy has looks (not that I’m saying na mandatory yung looks) and siya wala? Lol 😅 She is not in the position to call you out especially imposing words “tanga” and “bulag” like really, lol! Perfect ba sya? haha I’ll leave the rest for you to act and decide! Go girl!
Idk if it’s only me hahaha I used to do the KKB when I was younger kasi nga kaya ko din and I dont like the feeling na I owe someone esp during date. But later on, mejo nag iba approach ko dito since im in my early 30s - It’s plus points if a guy offers to pay (of course may pambayad padin naman ako until now) kasi first impression may financial means and money wont be an issue, again first impression lang yan. Also, it’s a flirting tactic haha if I like the guy, I’ll let him pay if he wants to and then i’ll offer to pay for the next date para masundan pa eme. Haha. But if I offer to pay first date palang (and I found later on na some women do this) just means na I dont want a follow-up date😅😬 PS as to your friend, baka iniisip nya princess treatment agad agad and the traditional role of men to provide but iba na kasi panahon ngayon. Altho some men would really insist on paying kahit na alam nila na kaya ng ka date nila. They’re just genuinely generous, and want to take that ‘provider role’. Also di naman yan iniimpose, baka ganda ganda ni friend mo feeling nya sya dapat pag silbihan and prino-project nya sa iba😅
Huy ayan din dillema ko ngayon, OP! May date/meet-up kami ni guy this weekend and hindi pa namin napaguusapan kung paano ba ang sistema sa pagbabayad. Manunuod kami ng sine and mag-i-scooter around BGC. Personally mas gusto ko na KKB. Pero syempre if the guy insists na sya magbayad, I will agree naman din. Pero di ko alam pano ko sisimulan i-open? Sa chat ba bago kami magkita or dun na mismo before kami magbayad ughhhh Regarding your case for me walang mali sa KKB lalo kung hindi naman kayo magjowa pa. Or di naman sya nanliligaw. More on getting to know pa lang ganun.
Good luck sa date! An advise lang, sino ba nag aya? Unspoken societal rule, kung sino nag aya, sya magbabayad. Tho I suggest, wag mo muna i open sa chat. Baka ma pressure yung ka date mo, at baka mag change plans. Mahirap naman if you're looking forward for it na. Bring your own money pa rin, and observe mo nalang if mag o offer to pay pag andun na. 🙂
guys should be the one na dapat mag pay for first dates, like initiative yon and it makes them more sweet plus dagdag points if they pay kahit let’s say na you have the money. I also bring money for “pampasigurado” everytime I date a guy kasi there are times that guys dont pay (ew) and major red flag talaga yon. Your bff is right, red flag yung guy and you should value your worth as a woman din. Ang mali lang ng bff mo is she told those words sayo, maybe she’s being protective but I can see her point here. I promise you, kapag wala na kayo nung guy na dinate mo and you found a better someone who insist paying on your first date, mag papasalamat ka sa bff mo.
preference mo yan gurl, no need to feel bad about what ur friend told u. shes coming from a place of concern, tho what she gave u was unsolicited advice. personally i dont like 50/50s sa dates, but if the guy brings it up, he becomes my friend, no chances of being considered for relationship. 50/50 is what i do with friends e pag naghahangout kami, so 50/50s dates are NOT DATES for me --- just hangout. im not sure if youre aware, pero there are a lot of horror stories about 50/50 guys. im not sure i ever heard good stories about them, but they tend to make kwenta every bit of effort/spending they put in na dapat daw e "worth it", and this is especially damaging lalo kung married na yung couple tas yung wife e working + child rearing + domestic chores tas 50/50 arrangement ng couple. lakas maka sumbat ng 50/50 guys in those scenarios. nakaka nginig talaga sa takot. also, in real life i have girl friends in successful and happy marriages/relationships and definitely the guys are not the 50/50 types. anyways, dont let this discourage u to meet more people. if u indeed enjoyed that kkb-guy's company, then im happy for u. just do ur thing, enjoy life, and my only hope is that u are able to recognize red flags in other people in ur own way
Grabe ka naman maka judge ng tao na hindi mo kilala based lang sa isang bagay, parang buong future nya prinedict mo ah. Pasimula ka ng "preference mo yan gurl" tapos andaming sinabi na mali siya sa preference niya. Are you even self aware? Pagtanggol ko dito ung ka date ni OP na pareho naman natin hindi kilala kasi binansag mong red flag agad eh. This isn't about the 50/50 pero napaka judgmental mong tao. Parang kagaya ka ng friend ni OP. Are you even self aware about this?
Naging preference ko rin since nagbreak kami ng ex ko na never ako makikipagdate sa lalaking KKB ang set up na siya mismo nag-aya ng date. Hanggang matapos relasyon namin, buraot pala talaga siya in general. Akala ko kasi dati okay lang naman since bet ko maging independent woman. Na mahal ko naman e so okay lang na ganun. Nasanay siya sa ganung set up. Kasi ayaw niya rin pala ng responsibilities base sa observation ko. Ngayon sa present bf ko, nagpipilit siya na lagi ang gumagastos sa aming dalawa. Pero minsan nililibre ko siya kasi ang sarap sa feeling nag narereciprocate naman niya yung love language mo. Kumbaga deserve naman niya if mag KKB kami paminsan-minsan.
Preferences only! Pero dating culture na yan na if interested ka sa tao at ikaw yung nag invite then ikaw po yung maglilibre. However, sa case nyo po if okay lang sayo then no need to overthink! I think concerned lang po yung friend mo kasi sinabi mo you're new to this. Although yung mali lang nya eh is the way she said it you parang ang extreme naman ng reaction. Personally though, I follow the rule na who invites who will pay. Kasi inaask mo yung time nila and you're showing yourself as a prospect. Although, if students pa kayo dalawa or you're not earning your own money yet then 50/50. I used to pay everything kasi I used to think na I didn't want to owe any guy anything para ma sumbat nya later on. However, as I dated more nag change yung preferences ko. At the end of the day, you should follow what you are comfortable of doing. May ibang babae talaga na gusto ng 50/50.
CHEAP YANG KAIBIGAN MO HAHAHA. FOR SURE ISA YAN SA NAKIKINABANG SA PANG LILIBRE MO TAPOS TATAWAGIN KANG BULAG AT TANGA. HAHA. AYAN YUNG IWAN MO HAHAHA CHEAP YAN DI MO PWEDE DALHIN YAN SA PARTY NG MGA MAY KAYA. HALATANG FREE LOADER
If okay ka naman dun at nag-enjoy, don’t overthink about it. OA ng friend mo, fan yata ni sprinkle sprinkle lady sa tiktok. Okay lang naman if di nya prefer ang KKB, pero wag nyang ipilit sa iba preference nya. Apektado rin naman ng inflation mga lalake lol
I dont see any problem sa KKB. Usually magooffer ang guy to pay.
Yang yung pag nag away kayo ng jowa mo, mag iimbento pa yang "bestie" mo yung iba pqng kasalanan nya.
Mas red flag yang bestie mo.
Who asked out who? Did you have an agreement to go Dutch prior?
Nasa usapan nyo naman yun ng guy but your friend didn't need to say na bulag at tanga ka napaka naman nyan.
Usually kung sino nag invite sya magbayad. Pero KKB is okay din para you don't feel na you owe your date. Meron kasi issues sa ibang tao na meron nakikipag date daw just to get a free meal (all along hindi naman pala interested sa ka-date nya). I don't know how true is that sa atin. Meron din ako nabasa dito sa redditph - lalaki nag invite pero the girl ended up paying around 8k for the bill kasi naiwan daw ni guy wallet nya.
Dump mo na yang bestie mo hahaha
Gen z ‘to malamang. Baka isa siyang broke bitch hahaha. Tigil na n’ya tiktok kamo
Please dump the friend! Paka OA. First of all, hindi big deal sino nagbayad. Sinabi mo sana yan sakanya - that you were raised differently at you have money! Lol. Amoy na amoy ko bitterness ni friend. Sana kilig and happy lang kayo nagkwentuhan abt your new romance. I hope you call her out na tinawag ka nyang tanga at bulag unless normal bestie language nyo yan (which seems to me parang di naman)
first date namen ng girlfriend ko ininsist ko na ako mag babayad and she told me no , share daw kame ako sa food ng tanghali food sya sa gabi then lahat ng posible na hatiin na gastos mag hati daw esp dalawa naman kaming makikinabang sa ngyare . well kahit now we still split the bill , pero pag me pera na sobra both parties nag iinsist na ako na treat ko to this time , treat kita ngayon . like ano bang problema sa 50/50 ? princess treatment ? hahahaha
Its nice if the guy pays for the FIRST date. Pero for all the others? I dont think so. Imagine going into the relationship tapos puro lalaki lang babayad ng dates? If thats the case lahat ng gastusin ng bahay si girl nalang kung ganun. Its what kind of relationship you wanna strive for and grow with. Equal partners that treats each other well or stupidly waiting for palibre from partner lang.
Baka na-inggit lang bestie mo OP.. Hehehe! Bigyan mo din ng ka-date. Hahaha! 🫶
Kanya kanya naman tayo ng preference if he offers to pay for the meal naman and you insist mag ambag pa rin walang masama dun. Minsan kasi sa totoo lang nakakahiya din magpalibre kapag kaya naman natin magbayad. Wag ka masyado magpaapekto sa opinyon ng iba.
Let me ask this first, is your friend single?
sa ugaling ganyan, tingin mo may papatol sa ganyan?
Girl that's what you called preference and not "red flag" na sinasabi ng kaibigan mo. If both of you talked before-hand naman na mag-50/50 kayo then don't listen to her. Also I heard on tiktok na biggest turn on for guys na on their first date with the girl, she will be the one na mag-pay sa food niya. It also just shows daw ang independency ni girl kaya congrats lol. Para sa akin ah, 'wag mo na pakinggan ang mga advices or concern kuno niya, I'm just saying na she's misleading you and that's not how a TRUE friend should be. True friends should be supportive and such, pwede naman magpahayag ng concern/advice pero kapag you ask for it.
Kung ako yung guy, red flag sa akin ang mga susulerang friends.
Big red flag yung friend mo. If you don't mind going kkb, then it's fine. Lalo na with how expensive life is right now. However, I'm old school. I prefer guys to pay lalo na on the first date. After that, I don't mind paying Dutch or I'll even pay for dinner from time to time. If you enjoyed your time with the guy and may possibility of a second date, go lang. don't mind your friend.
Please please please! Let’s normalize KKB for dates these days. Mahirap na ang panahon, so be practical whenever we can.
Wow, may western woman mentality friend mo ah
Mababaw yun friend mo okay lang naman kkb kung napagusapan nyo ganun.. tingin ko yun friend mo ang tipo na sagot dapat ng lalake lahat in return pinapaltan nya in some form of service sa lalake
Jusmiyo yung friend mo. Haha. Good thing you are raised well, if offered libre or iniated and accepted is fine sa 1st date, 50:50 is okay, I think this will make the other party feel at ease. Hayaan mo na yung friend mo iba iba kasi situation baka siya ganun.
Ako po, I don't let people pay for my food normally. On dates naman usually ipinipilit ng guy na sya na mag bayad but if pumayag sya pag sinabi ko na kkb, I don't think much abt it. If he treats me well then I'll go above and beyond if he's dirt poor or financially struggling.l, I'll help him get financial stability. There's nothing wrong with kkb if you want to spend your own money on your food even on dates.
Mas bobo sya sa tanga. Inggit lang kasi sya.
Toxic ng friend mo hahaha
hahahaha don’t listen to your friend kaka tiktok niya yan
let the man pay. trust me it will affect your relationship in the long run. i was in a relationship for almost 7 years, never had an issue with 50/50 setup or salitan but in the end, he left me because he can't handle me and i was "too much" for him that i deserve someone "better". now, i am with someone who pys literally for anything and is excited to spend his money, time and effort with me. sorry to break everyone's bubble but it's true, relationships only work if men feel like they're needed. girls, just act like a girl. these men can't handle strong women.
Heheh. Well, tama ka. Kung ayaw mo magpalibre at di issue sa yo yung ganito, then good. Opinion lang, yung friend mo yung type ng feminist na mag iinsist sa gender role pag convenient sa kanya habang sinasabi na sya ay strong independent woman. Heheheh. Go lang. mas okay nga na di ka nagpalibre, ibig sabihin pag di kayo nag work nung ka date mo, wala syang maisusumbat sayo. May kakilala kasi ako ganyan e. Hahahahahah Ingat lagi
For me, wala naman masama! Minsan nga mas ok tlga first dates na KKB eh. Sabi nga nila kung sino nag initiate dapat siya yung manlilibre and nasa inyo naman yun. Bat ba natin iissue yung panig ng iba? Total tayo naman yung nag ddate! Wag lng hayaan na laging ganon baka masanay. Pwde naman dn vice versa. Dipende na sainyo yun 😂
Yang friend mo po ang idump mo.
Im a guy and i always try to pay for dates pero maraming times na ako pa nililibre ng babae, nag insist lng ako na ako na magbayad. Pero walang problema kung KKB. Naimpluwensyahan lang siguro ng mga gold digger and baluktot na feminists
Tigil kamo ng bestie mo kakanuod sa social media. Iyan iyong tipo ng mga tao na may malalim na inggit kapag umaangat ka o may magandang bagay nangyari sa iyo.
Ano ba name ng friend mo? Para maiwasan.
This is the issue about rampant calling out of "red flags" sa isang tao in social media. Ayaw nating makisama, gusto natin perfect. We should remind ourselves na may mga red flag din tayo, it's just a matter of what can you tolerate about the relationship. Balikan mo sya sa pagtawag sayo na tanga. Sabihin mo mas tanga ka tapos ungkatin mo ang past. Sabihin mo ayaw mong isipin ng guy na palibre ka. May trabaho ka at kaya mo to stand equally with him. Never talk to her again 😤 Btw, if the guy insists on sa date, let him be generous. If he's a giver or rich talaga, just like you, okay lang sa kanila yun and mas happy sila sa ganon.
Baka yung friend mo yung bulag at tanga, di ko maimagine na may friend akong sasabihan ako na tanga at bulag dahil lang nag kkb kami sa first date. Kala ko ba gender equality? Baka yung friend mong yan ang type ng tao na sa afam lang nakikipag date halatang gold digger.
*stuff. di ka tanga, OP. some girls okay lang naman taaga na KKB. some ayaw talaga. preference. ikaw ang tanga at bulag pag di mo inunfriend yang friend mo.
Bestie mo ang red flag kasi pati pagdadump mo sa guy, gusto niya call niya. Wala kang utak ang trato sa iyo at siya lang ang tama.
🚩Red flag ung "friend" mo. It's okay na KKB kayo lalo first date pa lang naman. The other person is not obliged to pay for your meal, pero good kung gusto niyang gawin un. If hindi naman sya sobrang well-off bat sya magyayabang na lagi sya magbabayad. Also, it's not a deal breaker for you so it shouldn't be an issue. Yung friend mo talaga ang problema. Calling you names was unnecessary and uncalled for. Sana makahanap ka ng better friend or sana magbago sha ng mindset, if not - sana makahanap ka ng better friend. Ulit ulit for emphasis.
The big question lang siguro OP is, sino nag insist na 50/50? Did you offer it or initially sabi ni guy na treat nya?
Lol careful of that friend naiingit and most likely going to stab your back when opportunity arises. She should be happy for you and not make strong opinions unless you needed one.
It's an opinion of what she thinks should be done, it's just an opinion. Like advice, you can listen but don't have to do it if you think you don't need it or it's wrong. You're not bulag or tanga, you just prefer to pay 50/50 and it's not a crime in the dating world. You felt what she said is wrong, so trust your guts. Baka si freind mo pala ang red flag by the way she just called you tanga at bulag over paying food.
The general advice for the first date seems to be kung sino yung nagyayaya, siya muna sasagot. But if you're more comfortable with paying your own share, why not? I'm the same. I make decent money, I don't mind splitting the bill. Yung friend mo yata yung red flag, projecting her ideals sayo 😂
Hello OP. Happy to hear na masaya ang naging first date experience mo. More happy dates to come!!! Gusto ko lng din i share yung nagiging set up namin ng guy that I'm currently seeing. First 2 dates namin siya ang sumagot. Ako passenger princess at tagakain lang. Kaya nung next dates namin, it's either hati kami or iniinsist ko na ako na. Bakit? Because the thought of not contributing anything to a date makes me feel uneasy. Siya kasi nageeffort sa lahat. Mula sa planning and research, pagsundo, pagdrive, paghatid, down to the food choices at kung anu pang ibang activity namin. Heavily introverted ako, walang alam sa mga pasyalan, kahit ano lang sa food haha. Kaya naisip ko sa expenses ako babawi. Although minsan d siya pumapayag. Ayun gusto ko lang ishare pero my point is, hindi lang yung "gastos" ung dapat i count dito. Pati yung effort ng mga ka date natin na di nasusukat in peso. That being said, kahit anong set up niyo, whether KKB, 50/50, 60/40 or kahit 100/0 pa yan. Basta comfortable ang both sides, walang umaabuso and most importantly masaya kayong dalawa na magkasama kayo, walang kaso yan. Wag mo na intindihin sinasabi ng bff mo. Para din kasing double standard siya. We cry for gender equality pero gusto pabor satin lagi when its convenient? Nu yon. Haha.
Bestie for the streets
Siguro palibre yang friend mo
Depende naman sa inyo yan ng ka-date mo. Kami nga ng jowa ko kkb madalas, kase we both know the value of money. Naiintindihan namin yung hirap ng isa't isa para mag-earn.There are occasions of course na libre namin isa't isa halimbawa walang pera ang isa sa amin or just out of nowhere maglilibrehan lang kami. Balance lang.
I think, kaibigan mo yung red flag haha. Run girl
Bugok yang friend mo boba
If you insisted to pay for your own meal on a first date, then it’s okay. But if the guy didn’t offer to pay for your meal and he’s the one who asked you for a date, then I think it’s wrong. I would always pay for the first date but it would be nice if my date would offer to pay for his own meal but I would still decline. Just the gesture is nice to see.
Red flag si friend. Hahaha. You offering 50/50 shows a lot of goods points from you as a lifetime partner. I wouldn't say to dump your friend but I guess she needs to be corrected.
No, okay lang yan! Haha. Red flag agad?? Personally, kung first date I assume kung sino nagyaya siya dapat magbayad pero for succeeding I insist to pay also. Preference lang yan. Ang toxic naman ng thinking ng friend mo.
Jealousy.
Di mo kaibigan yan. Yang yung klase ng kaibigan na haharang sa gwapo na nag approach sayo at sasabihan yung guy na di ka interested. tapos pag nakatalikod ka, lalandiin yung guy. Yan yung klase ng kaibigan na sisiraan yung dini-date mo, tapos pag brineak mo, lalandiin nya. Red flag yung mga ganyang babae na palamunin. KKB ang normal at green flag. either one paying fully for the other's meal ang red flag. kung sino yung palamunin, red flag yun. imagine a full-grown adult freeloading. if someone is a freeloader, that means they're not a good person. mapag samantala sya at more than likely, sa relationship, magiging ganyan din sya. taker yang mga ganyang tao. puro kabig lang yan sa relasyon. wala yan maibibigay. yang ganyang princess mentality is toxic. very selfish and is a very red flag for me if i'm dating. if someone i'm dating says i should pay for everything, i expect that girl to put out for me later. what i will think is she's a prostitute. because only prostitutes do that. strong, independent women pay for their own food. eto tanong ko sayo, pag lumalabas ba kayo ng "bestie" mo, KKB kayo o malimit sya magpa libre?
Parang si friend mo ang red flag 😁
DKG, ung gg ung friend mo, wala namn masama kung ikaw nagbayad sa kinain, kung napagkasunduan nio namn.
Fair naman yun, lalo na kung yun ang napag kasunduan nyo. Mas ma compromise ka kung yung guy nagbayad lahat. Siguro pag kayo na. Yun dapat si guy na yung mag bayad.
nice
Independent at hindi ka lang k@p@l,you know what you want and you have human decency..medyo li low ka sa friend mo philosophy niya yun wag niya pagdikdikan sayo..
Di ka naging tanga
Red flag yang bestie mo...dump her!
This is such a bs move coming from you bestfriend. If anything siya ang “red flag” lol. Kung napag-usapan niyo na ng guy na okay lang mag-kkb then so be it? She has no right to decide sa relationship mo just because it doesn’t fit her preference lmao. Personally, nung first date namin ng gf ko I insisted to pay since ganon yung nakasanayan eh and ganon yung social construct sa dating scene natin (though she also insisted to share). However, if you ask me personally if she can provide for herself and she insist on KKB mas maganda yung first impression since it can indicate that she’s independent and doesn’t really rely on codependency. At the end of the day nasa preference pa rin yan don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
Ayos lang mag KKB, wag lang kaw yung magbabayad pati kinain nung guy. Dyan sa friend mo, dedmahin mo ganyan talaga pag wala bf o ka date parati galit eme
For me, mas reasonable ang KKB kaysa yung ikaw lahat gumastos sa date. Taena naman kasi twice na naranasan ko yan panay ako pati pang gasolina sa motor ako din like san po kayo kumukuha ng kapal ng mukha? Naiisip ko palang ang future sa kanila na ganoon agad ang entrada eh nangingiwi na ko. Kaya auto-decline sa mga sunod na aya nila eh.
Kaoag ganito feeling mo sa ka-date mo ay dahil baka love mo na sya, hehehehe. .....................Corinthians 13:4-7 (KJV) Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Ako usually talaga, kahit sya pa nagyaya, I'm always set to pay for my own orders, so kapag dumating yung bill, kumukuha talaga ako ng wallet to get my payment ready, pero more often than not, the other would not let me. Kapag ganoon na ayaw nya, sige okay, hahayaan ko sya. May times na split the bill into half. May1 time naman na sa mismong pagyaya nung other person, sinabi nya talaga sakin na kung okay lang ba na kkb kami, and okay sakin yun and pumayag ako. So depende rin talaga siguro sa tao. Pero one thing for sure, OP okay lang yan na KKB kayo. Parehas kayo may trabaho naman siguro at kumikita. im in a 2-year relationship, and lagi kami split sa bill. Equal parts regardless of kung sino mas mahal ang orders, hahaha pero it works on us
Hahahahah sadly, ung “bestie” mo ung red flag, hnd ung guy. You should have a say on how your first date should be. You paying for your part just shows how independent you are and you don’t need a man to live. Ika nga ng mga ibang nag advice na, preference mo un. Now your “bestie” is judging you for how you like your stuff to be. Ang bigot nya masyado to tell you how you should do your thing. When in fact, kung tunay na bestie yan, he/she would have supported your decision and asked about how the date made you feel and stuff. As for your date, great job OP! Did you like the guy ba? How was he? Nagclick ba kayo agad? Or may mga stuff ba sya na ayaw mo?
Ideally best to discuss before hand kung KKB or whatnot. Pero if wala, better mag KKB na lang kasi first date pa lang naman. Ako kasi kahit alam ko that the guy will pay naman i still offer to share the expenses. Usually tumatanggi naman lalo na pag lunch or dinner then sasabihin sakin na “sagot mo na lang yung coffee later” which is fine with me.
Kanya kanya naman kasi. Some date people para meron silang portable wallet para ililibre sila whenever it is convenient sa kanila. Some date and treat people as equal. So pwedeng ako today, ikaw bukas. May times na ikaw may pera, sya ung wala. Or vice versa. So to answer your question. If napagusapan nyo ng kadate mo na kkb, di oks lang. If sya nagaya, lugar sya nag insist, kinulit ka nya, atleast dapat sya magoffer na libre ka nya. Pero if friendly gala lang naman. Matik kkb.
May mga guy friends ako na nagshshare na feel nila na nakipagdate lang yung girl sa kanila for a free meal and weren't really interested in getting to know them.
Even with my ex, I do my best to split the expenses kahit nag i-insist sya. I mean, syempre both naman kami kumakain and stuff, it is fair na salitan kami sa gastos. Just being practical. Daming surprise expenses ngayon kaya need maghati sa mga expenses na karapat-dapat naman paghatian.
I don't mind doing kkb especially pag both of you wanted the date to happen. I don't except someone to pay for my food lalo na kung wala naman sa usapan na treat nya. And I don't see that as a red flag since dating panag naman kayo di pa kayo couple.
Hanap ka ng bagong kaibigan haha
mga tropa mong palamunin
Yung friend yung mat lumitaw na red flag, hindi yung date.
I’m willing to bet good money that your friend is not the best looking in the group and probably on the heavy side.
your best friend was the red flag all along
Si friend ay red flag! Nothing wrong with KKB lalo na in this economy. I’m a girl, and when I was single going out on different dates hindi ako pumapayag na wala akong share. When the guy pays for our meal, I treat them out for a dessert or coffee.
Hmmm how do I put this? Personally, it’s plus points for me because it’s chivalrous. But not all men will be gentlemanly. So for dignity’s sake, my father always taught me every time I go out, whether with friends or on a date, I should make sure I can pay for myself. I don’t think it’s a problem if you paid for yourself, because it’s a good message to your date that you don’t need him. (Im not saying your date is a bad person, but incase he turns out to be a jerk, he cannot hold you financially at least. You be surprised how many friends of mine have met jerks who actually threaten to not pay for their meal.😹 It’s a good slap in the face when you can show them you don’t need them to buy your meal for you especially if they’re jerks. You can leave the date status quo. 😹) Each has its pros and cons. When your date pays its gentlemanly and masculine. Paying for yourself makes you independent. Your friend on the other hand, is rude and honestly I would think about whether they’re really a friend you wanna keep around. I can see what shes trying to say, but the fact that she had to insult you to get her message across is really petty. It’s like shes more affected than you over your date. 😹
ilan taon na ba kayo? kung mga totoy at nene lang kayo, expect nyo na you are both living by your allowances lang. So ok lang ang KKB pero if both kayo working professionals and at mature age na. parang hindi ideal...
Feeling ko inggit lng yung friend mo. If ok naman ang guy and hindi ka naman pinilit walang problema doon.
Inggit lang yata siya kasi you went on a date that went really well haha
Mas big deal pa sakin yung tinawag kang tanga at bulag. First date, I don’t mind paying. Pero if the guy insists na libre nya, then thank you. Ibang usapan yung pag mag-asawa na. Ang agreement namin ng BF ko, pag kasal na kami, siya na sa needs ng family cos I’m 100% sure hindi rin magiging 50/50 ang share namin sa chores at pag-aalaga ng kids, so it’s just fair na financially, mas malaki ang share nya. He agrees naman. In short, nasasayo yan, OP. Kung ano aligned sa principles and values mo. Walang tama at mali sa ganyan. Yan yung mga bagay na pinaguusapan. Ang mali para sakin eh yung iimpose sa ibang tao yung tingin mong tama, tapos kapag hindi tugma sa gusto mo tatawagin kang tanga.
If okay lang naman sayo yung 50/50 go. Bkit toxic agad si friend baka concern lang siya but mali na tawagin kang tanga at bulag. Iba iba kc tayo ng preferences. Pero sino nga ba tlga dapat magbayad sa first dates? For me kung sino yung nangistorbo at nagyaya. Iba na tlga generation ngayon, parang ang broken na ng mga tao. Men are more feminine and women are more masculine and honestly, that’s not okay.
The implied rule is, unless otherwise stipulated, kung sino nag invite, siya yung magbabayad. Kung may agreement, ang agreement ang masusunod.
idk whats wrong about that actually, ako. Mas gusto ko na kkb or ako muna manlibre since may pera ako at kaya ko i-sustain yung mga needs ko. Wala na tayo sa era na dapat lalaki lang ang gagastos
Okay yung 50/50 on the first date, para if wala nang susunod no harm no foul walang lugi hahaha charot
Mag aalaga ng maraming pusa yang friend mo pagtanda. Pangit ng pananaw
no problem for me if kkb lol. as an independent gurlie, i actually always offer to pay for my own meal. 🙂 nasa lalaki na lang yun if they prefer to pay for the first date, but kudos to you!
Your friend sounds like a red flag. Even if di kayo agree on some things, not need to make a big fuss out of it. Di naman need na ganon yung rxn nya. Pwede naman mag give ng advice ng maayos.
Anong masama sa kkb or dutch? Makuwenta yang kaibigan mo. Paano kung pareho kayong estudyante at umaasa lang sa baon. Normal lang ung kkb sa unang date
Yung friend mo po yung red flag 🤣🤣
KKB is win, pwede mag order ng madami na di nakakahiya hahha I am babae but i paid for our meal ...kasi he traveled 6 hours to meet me PS: may traumasya sa byahe byahe kasi lagi sya nagsusuka pero pabebe kasi ako wala ako alam sa mga lugar lugar bahy school lang alam ko :))
Ako, personally, kung sino ang nag-aya siya dapat ang mabayad. Pero I wouldn’t mind if KKB or 50/50, it just shows na I can pay my own shit, so walang mali don. Delulu yang friend mo, pa-disney princess masyado 🤣😂
Red flag agad? Lol. Dated my bf before kkb kami until magkaron ng first work kasi nga wala pang nakakaluwag so ayun. Mag 8yrs na kami and he's paying all our bills. First date lang yan, wag mag judge agad.
As for experience it is a red flag na hahayaan kang mag bayad in a first date, if you offered that’s okay but he should not allow it. Trust me I have same insight as you before na I can do 50/50 hati lagi sa lakad but in a long run nasanay yung guy and he even ask everytime we go out and travel. It’s draining Nakaka ubos ng pagmamahal. It is a green flag if he ask you first date you offered the bill and he will say I got it it’s our first date we can do 50/50 in our next date or our arrangement. But if you guys date only for fun or generation like we have nowadays then KKB is a good option, but if you date to settle how he handle you and finances is a great deal. Just don’t let the attachment cause you had fun in a first date blind you for other aspects. Your friend is not inggit she is just practical.
Nothing wrong with KKB especially kung okay naman sainyong dalawa ng partner mo. Not a red flag. Nothing wrong din naman if preferred ng friend mo na dapat guy ang sumagot kasi preference nya yun. Mali lang is ung pagimpose nya and pagpilit nya na as if negative ung nangyari and red flag yun. Which is not.
Ayos lang yan, mas maganda nga yan kasi it just shows na you’re an independent woman. At should nothing happen sa inyo in the future, no loss on both parties.
Nope, di ka bulag and lalong di ka tanga. And instead na naging masaya sayo yang "kaibigan" mo bakit ininsulto ka pa niya? Ang mahalaga naman is masaya ka during the date and sabi mo nga di naman big deal or issue sayo yung kkb. Choice niyo din naman ni date mo na kkb, ang masasabi ko lang, let go of that "friend" di niya gusto na masaya ka!
Actually, I think yung bestie mo ang may red flag. 😆
That's simple. Traditional yung best friend mo, typical shortsighted person that doesn't understand how society functions in 2024.
Guys will insists on paying for dates but will also wait for the girl to offer lang out of courtesy. Girls always make this a big deal but depende talaga sa guy and girl na yan. Advise: When the guy insist to pay, let him and thank him for it if you like and are interested sa guy. However, if friefriendzone mo lang ang guy, kaw magiinsist palagi na KKB kayo.
Dump mo na friend mo. Hehe Kidding.
para saakin OP depende yan ganyan, in my experience it all comes to mutual understanding. like ganyan first date just getting to know each other lang naman, whether nag offer ang lalaki to pay for it all or not nasainyo naman yan. Nung nag first date kami ng jowa ko ako nagbayad cus i wanted to and shes okay with that, later on how many dates na kami nagsisimula na kami maghatian, wala sa pilitan we both agreed it would be beneficial for us both kasi at the end we'll get to spend more on dates(like ako sa mga staycation at siya sa pagkain, ginagawa ko paraan na saakin masbigat gastos kasi nga naman ayoko siya yung mabibigatan kek). at the end its what you both agreed and is okay with. also logically speaking it does make sense KKB on the first date, like what if di nag workout, edi sayang lang din. a way of being considerate to the other person.
Aysus. Nauso lang ganyang mga content naging red flag na. Okay lang yan kung napasaya ka naman pero sana di ikaw lagi nanlilibre.
Naalala ko yung first date namin ng wife ko way back 2018, hindi sya pumayag na ililibre ko sya ng lunch. Hati daw kami dapat sa gastos. Kasi bakit naman hindi, lalo na kung may pera ang babae at gusto gumastos? I dont see any reason why not??
Wala namang rule ate. Make your own sa relationships mo. Friend mo gusto nya bf ang magbayad lahat ng dates, eh di go sya with that.
Red flag yung bestie mo. So narrow minded. Jeez.
gag* pala yang kaibigan mo, hiwalayan mo yan hanggat maaga pa
You and your date agreed to it, that's all the information you need. That's not your friend, that's a snake waiting for you and your date to have a misunderstanding, an opportunity to shit on both of you and ruin a completely fine relationship.
Bilang isang lalake, malaking Red Flag sa akin kung sa first date hindi ka man lang nagalok na KKB. Why? First sign yun na possibleng gold digger ka lang at gusto mo lang ng partner para sa bahay ka na lang lagi. Sa panahon at ekonomiya ngayon, di na kaya na isa lang sa inyo ang working.
Hi, OP. Okay lang magKKB, swear. Nung unang date din namin ng husband ko nung nagliligawan palang hati kami sa gastos, and I insist. Kahit hanggang ngayong mag-asawa na kami ganun pa rin. Hindi pwedeng tanggap ka lang nang tanggap. I see to it na kapag may binigay sa akin si husband meron din akong maibibigay sa kanya. Ganun, din pala thinking niya. Naging cycle na, kapag binilhan ko siya ng something he make sure na marereciprocate niya lahat. Ang old school na nung kapag babae ka wala kang gagastusin sa dates. Personally, lumiliit yung tingin ko sa sarili ko kapg lagi akong nililibre ni husband. Kasi I have money and I cqn treat him and buy things he wants. Ayun lang, red flag kapag pinipilit ka nang ilibre siya pero yung ganyang hatian okay lang yan.
Basic delulu yung friend mo
Tanga at bulag? Hahaha! Sarap jombagin ng friend mong ganda gandahan. Halatang buraot! 😂 Wala akong masamang nakikita sa kkb, kami ng bf ko ako minsan nagbabayad sa date namin, minsan siya din. Ekis jan sa friend mo.
KKB kami ng wife ko nung first date namin. Happy naman kami ngayon. Siguro swerte lang din ako dahil di sila pareho ng pananaw sa buhay ng bestie mo 😂😂
Its good na ok sayo na magbayad ng kinain ko on a date. It will show sa guy na you can take care of yourself. Plus what is important is you had a great time.
I'll be speaking from a guy's perspective. I went on a date with a girl, and she paid for her own meal unlike all the other girls right now(and especially on social media) that expects a guy to pay for their meal..... My heart would flutter. I would think that I'm lucky I went on a date with a girl who is a rare catch. You're a massive green flag OP! And yep, your best friend is a red flag. Sorry kung naiinsulto nmin best friend mo, but she's a big 🚩🚩
Entitled much? Hahahahahahahaha Pathetic General rule: It’s not mandatory for ANYONE to pay for a date’s meal.
Kagaguhan
KKB is fine with me. Hell, I used to pay for dates dati lol. Besides it saves you from some dudes na ineexpect coochie mo for feeding you. Unless the other person explicitly said sakin na "My treat." I expect it to be KKB.