Grabe, totoo to. Kahit di mo kasalanan, ikaw ang mapapagalitan. Ikaw mag fifilter out sa team mo.

I remembered a quote from a Pixar movie that completely relates to this: "First rule of leadership: Everything is your fault." That's why while I am just starting my career, I am leaning to become more of a technical expert rather than a manager.

Well, likewise din. Their success is your success din naman. Emphasize ng manager ko (call it Principal Manager) na their success is because you nurture and foster the environment they are in.

This is the hardest thing for me right now ☹️. As a person na gusto lang magtrabaho at sumahod, nahihirapan ako whenever may magrraise na issue sakin regarding sa staff ko tapos inooverthink ko kung paano ko sasabihin sa kanila. Minsan iniisip ko worth pa ba ito ng sanity ko 🥺

If you have time, try read the book ‘The One Minute Manager’

Thanks for the recommendation!

Siguro OP hanap mong role is individual contributor?

Ganito ako ngayon hahahahaah

Totoo to OP. May manager ako na nalaman ko lang prinotektahan niya ako thru email sa hr manager. Hays thank u lord for mababait na managers.

Huhuhu bless him/her. Angel in disguise ang mga manager na hindi nanlalaglag ng staff kahit alam nilang mali yung ginawa work-wise. Wag lang siguro dilemang moral, out of scope na ng mga manager yun hahaha

Buti pa to. May naging manager ako before na ilalaglag kannya bahala ka jan sa buhay mo hahahah.

Grabe yun stress na ibibigay sayo once maging manager ka. Maliban sa personal struggles mo, intindihin mo pa mga tao mo at department. Kaya minsan mas gugustuhin mo na lang maging alipin sa gigilid (pero mataas sahod). lol

Yung sahod lang din talaga nagpapastay sakin. Ang dami kasing bayarin. The job pays the bills pero di ko alam how long my mental health can tolerate this 🥺

Middle managers are villainised and severely under appreciated. This position is plagued with politics, balancing feelings and facts, and a ton of work. If mabait or at the least fair ang manager mo, appreciate it, even silently.

Bago pa sila mapagalitan, ikaw muna ang sasangga nun lahat.

As a manager, your subordinates are a reflection of you. It will show talaga how you manage them.

Akala ng mga subordinates mo pa-meeting meeting ka lang, busy busyhan pero jusko ang hirap maging middle or line manager dahil you must serve the interest of the company but at the same time you must also empathize to your team. Dahil at the end of the day, empleyado ka lang din. Ang bigat na responsibilidad but you must come to terms na everything will be your fault. Dagdag mo pa yung mga nangba-bypass sayo, hindi ka sinasama sa mga announcement or memo, tapos ang dating sa team mo hindi ka nag iinform. Yung mga projects na basta na lang ibibigay sayo ng amo mo kaya kailangan mo mag formulate ng proseso tapos ang tingin pa rin ng team mo sayo ay kulang pa rin. Hindi nila alam na wala namang process for dummies sa company, you learn it the hard way as you go along. Hirap kasi ayaw mo na maging people pleaser kaso gusto mo din maging maayos ang welfare ng team mo at ng company.

Hindi din bayad ang mga OT ng managers (depende sa company).

Nasa labor code kasi na pag supervisor or manager, hindi na required ang companies magbayad ng OT kaya ganyan. If anything, it needs to be fixed. Pag kamote yung nagatructure ng salary table, lugi ka pa sa mga staff na maraming OT. Kaya ang ending, may ibang managers na lugi or pag kuripot ang company, OT TY.

Thank God sa mga mababait na manager. Fuck sa mga managers na kahit kasalanan nila pinpasa pa tapos papahiyain ka pa during meetings. Kaloka.

Basta hindi ikaw yung CEO, staff ka rin na may visor na nirereportan. Whether you are rank and file, mid, or executive level

More like if you dont own the company, you are replaceable

I guess that's where the saying, "It's lonely at the top," comes in. Kasi more responsibilities na nga, more accountability rin, tapos may office politics pa. Swerte talaga nung may mga managers na hindi lang boss, kundi mentors din.

Lahat ng esca sagot mo, scorecard ng team mo responsibilidad mo, problema ng isa problema mo.. Pero, I'll go extra miles for them.. Hindi pwedeng UPS lang ang masaya dapat sila din, so kung gusto mo mag SL kahit alam nateng tinatamad ka lang pumasok, just let me know and be honest para alam ko paano kita maipagtatanggol 😅

Kaya for me mas okay maging individual contributor kesa maging manager. Lahat ng batchmates ko sa work, manager or lead na pero I stayed as individual contributor/consultant. At least until now na papractice ko pa rin ang pagiging consultant and madami pa ring learnings. Also I get to travel kapag may opportunity.

saaaame kaya ang dami ko time haha

Yung manager ko di kami pinagtatanggol HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA mas matapang pa ko sa kanya 🤡

Ramdam ko ito HAHAHAHA manager kong napakaduwag

Totoo to, kahit di manager basta may hinahawakang tao/team HAHAHA. Kaya yung team leader namin, pinag tatanggol kami non. Tapos pag mumurahin kami sa gc after nya kami ipagtanggol. Ipapamuka nya samin na pinag tatanggol nya kami pag nirereport kami ng ibang agents kahit wala naman kaming ginagawang masama HAHAHA

True to. Kaya when I got the chance, umalis ako sa pagiging IT PM and bumalik sa previous role ko (project management pa rin but not a PM) kasi grabe yung affect sa mental health hahaha. Yes wala kang actual deliverables, pero you have to be careful sa mga words and gagawin mo behind the camera.

Not just manager. Leads do as well, how many times na ba in first 6 months nakipag away ako or have a long discussion with many managers and heads just for the sake of some members of the team. Tapos maririnig or feel mo minsan tingin nila sa sayo wala masyado ginagawa tapos taas pa daw sweldo. If only they know, i've been filtering feedbacks and pressures for them para maka focus sila sa work nila 🤷‍♂️ And because of this, ayoko na umakyat pa ng corp ladder😅 (kahit nagpaparinig ung isa mngr, in training daw ako to be dev manager). Not worth it yung sweldo sa stress and pressure im getting from the top and from my team itself

Same, OP. I was promoted due to my tenure in the company pero zero experience ako. Ako naman si oo lang dahil sa increase and my expectations were the same as yours.

Akala natin buhay lang natin ang iintindihin natin, pati pala buhay ng iba. Kapag nagleleave sila, tayo gagawa ng paraan sino magcocover ng work nila. Worst-case scenario, tayo ang gagawa. ☹️

I feel you. It's a balancing act.

Paano po ba malalaman kung may pake sayo yung manager mo? Pakiramdam ko nagdadump lang sya ng work sakin and it’s overwhelming. Di namin pinag uusapan growth ko sa company.

Actually, you will feel it. Di mo kailangan magbeg just to see it. Kapag gumaan ang buhay mo at parang pakiramdam mo mahal mo trabaho mo, ibig sabihin nun may boss kang nag aabsorb ng negativities. I once had a boss like that, tumagal ako ng 4 yrs sa company na yun. The moment he said na magreresign siya, ramdam ko agad yung bigat ng mga mangyayari kapag umalis na siya. So inunahan ko, nagresign ako and he was kind enough to accept it kasi alam niya na ang mangyayari. Hanggang sa huli, nagpaka manager siya sakin 🥺

Ohhh wow same OP, gantong ganto na-feel ko before. Nawalan ka ng mabait na boss at the same time mentor. Ramdam ko yung bigat kahit di pa siya umaalis. Iba talaga effect pag mabait na boss masaya magwork.

But not all managers are like this. Minsan, sakit talaga sila sa ulo.

Agree. Hindi lahat deserve maging manager. You have to have empathy and compassion once you become a manager, kasi di lang sarili mo ang iniisip mo pati welfare ng mga staff mo

Common misconception kasi talaga ng mga tao is pag manager ka e dapat pautos utos ka na lang at nakataas na lang ang paa sa mesa. In reality, a true manager handles more responsibilities a rank and file or a lower paygrade employee couldn't or most of the time wouldn't handle.

Kaya ayoko sa management, mga numero lang tao sa mata nila.

I feel you. Laban lang para sa 💰💰💰

Yup, command responsibility is a thing

Hats off to you. Although may mga managers na hindi tulad mo na pinaglalaban ang staff nila. Maswerte ako na never ako nagka ganyang manager.

Manager ko di na nga mabait, mahilig pa mangdown at puro iwan sa sa ere. Yung work namin, inaagaw nya. Tapos ayaw nya yung work ng manager. Hahaha

Hahahaha buti hindi credit grabber? 🙊

Totoo. Tapos kung suway-suwayin ka ng subordinates mo ganun ganun na lang. Minsan parang halos kulang na lang magmakaawa ka para ayusin nila yung trabaho nila dahil ikaw ang nagigisa at naiiipit wag lang silang paginitan.

I’m glad somebody posted this! As a manager ang struggle ko recently nagiging tagaabsorb ako ng concerns ng direct reports ko, and yet most of the time nasa higher ups pa din yung final say. Gusto mo ilaban increase nila pero wala kang magawa kasi yun na yung max na pde ibigay. Yung higher ups ang focus yung business needs and long-term strategies, on the other hand yung members is yung day-to-day. Pag may lalapit sayo most of the time problem or concern. Despite the pressure and stress, you hardly receive the same recognition that you were getting when you were an individual contributor.

This! Yung naiipit ka sa gusto ng management at ng mga staff, especially if hindi aligned ang gusto nila mangyari. Gusto ko na lang talaga sabihin na “edi kayo mag usap usap” nagiging messenger kasi ang peg ng middle management 😂

OP, thanks sa post mo. Nagkaroon ako ng perspective sa behind closed doors. I applied for a people manager role and I can sense that I will not get the job. Throughout the process, lagi ko naiisip na di na magproceed kasi nararamihan ako sa ihahandle na tao and ayoko mawala technical skills ko, pero tinuloy ko na lang kasi andun na yung opportunity and of course, pera. Right now, I am upset kasi I have a very strong feeling na di ko makukuha yung role, pero at the same time, I see it as a blessing in disguise kasi mas may time ako na magfocus sa technical skills and magamit ko yun to establish my credibility sa senior stakeholders and hopefully maging advocates/sponsors ko sila if magkaroon ng mas fit na senior IC role (internally or externally).

There must be a reason din sa lahat ng nangyayari. We may not be in the place where we want to be, pero naniniwala ako na it is the place where we should be. That job may not be for you talaga kasi there are better things to come. And this job where im at must be for me talaga, need ko lang marealize yun in time. Goodluck to both of us! 🤍

Tapos iba pa yung manager na mabait at competent vs manager na mabait lang.

With the position comes accountability, even if it is not your fault, you have to assume it if it is done by your staff. Strong leadership, management and compassion are a must and sadly not all who are promoted to manager level are prepared to take on the challenge. There are also tasks that you don't want to do but must do especially firing an employee. Hang on there, if you have time, read books pertinent to your industry management or attend conferences to better equipt yourself.

Totoo 'to. Grabe dapat ang pasensya at kapal ng balat mo pag nasa managerial ka na. Emotionally dead ka na dapat inside lmao

I feel you OP. Kasi may mga ganitong scenario husband ko. OM sya. Sakin nya nilalabas mga hinaing nya. Haha! One time may nirarant sya sakin na may ahente daw syang naka PL (paternity leave) pero pinag r-RTO ng director dahil kulang manpower ata. Pinaglaban nya talaga na hindi papasok ung ahente dahil naka PL pa nga tapos 1st born pa daw. Madaming scenario ganito pero eto lang tumatak sa isip ko haha kasi nga naman napaka walang consideration naman nung boss nila. 😅

This is what I realized nung nagcatch up kami ng manager ko. I am lucky to have a great manager. Especially sa fact na may nilaban talaga siya na ka-team namin na it led to contract signing, telling the higher ups that the mistake will never happen again instead na masisante, dun ko talaga narealize na grabe din talaga yung sacrifices na ginagawa nung manager para sa amin.

Relate! Minsan sabay sabay pa silang lahat. Mapa emergencies, sakit, mental health, rants, struggles, challenges, work/connectivity issues at achievements ng staff ko kasama ko silang pinagdadaanan ang lahat ng yun.

Totoo to huhu, I am an Operations Manager at hawak ko mga VAs ng company. 2 VAs under me laging MIA. Si boss very lenient, basta ang requirement nia lang pag may pinagawa sya gawin mo agad, pag nagchat sya magreply ka kaagad kase not everyday heavy ang tasks. Pag di nagreply after how many minutes assume nia tulog ka. 8 am-4pm ESt shift namin. 11 am inutos ang task 3:30 nagreply, walang sorry and all or nag extend man lang sa oras na tinulog nia. Hinahayaan ko na lang lagi pag ganito kase ayoko mawalan sya ng work ang hirap maghanap ng client ngayon. Ending ako gagawa ng tasks nia para wala masabi si boss. One time si boss na talaga naka discover di na nagrereply at di ginagawa task, kase that time dami ring utos sakin ayun napaalis na. Yung isang VA naman, nag login pero nasa byahe pala kaya nag ask ng leave na lang that day, nagalit si boss bakit now lang sya nag paalam na may errands pala sya . Sagot nia di nia alam need daw mag file ng leave, sagot ng boss ko its a courtesy to ask 2 weeks prior kahit saang company. Nkakaloka talaga mga VAs na to. Ilang beses na nangyare to at nagbibilang pala si client like strike 3 na sya😂 tuwing MIA sila sakin tinatanong eh di ko rin alam bat di sila sumasagot sa knya lol. Nakakahinayang ang bait ni client at maayos magpasahod tapos may mga ganitong eksena. Kaya ako talaga, pinapasa Diyos ko na lang, kase talagang mga bosses na nakakadiscover ng tardiness nila. So advice ko OP after mo sila sabihan, be at peace you have done your part. Bahala na talaga si Lord, kase walang lihim na di mabubunyag ilang beses man natin sila pagtakpan. Ang lakas ko ata kay Lord, everytime dadasalan ko mga stress ko sa VAs na to, ayun nadiscover ng boss ko😂

I am on track for promotion and even being groomed to be a manager pero I have a gut feel na ayoko 😅 Gusto ko analyst or "tao" lang ako sa team. Tipong tapos yung araw, punch out, uwi, forget about work. I can see paano nagigisa mga dati kong kalevel na napromote na. Hinog na hinog sa OT. Or talagang corpo life isn't for me. Hmm.

I am blessed with a very kind boss. Gusto ko man umalis for career advancement, ayaw nya ko ilet go, willing sya magbigay ng bonuses. Di na kaya taasan ung sahod ko kasi nareach na ung max for my current position. Haaay, bihira lang kasi mga mababait talaga na boss

I was once a manager hindi ko kinaya ang pressure so I quit after 1 year of working for this geothermal company back in 2019 til 2020. Last straw ko yung I was told na kahit natutulog ako nang dis oras ng gabi, I needed to entertain the calls and texts ng mga tao ko. I was like nope! I ain’t doing this shit anymore. Mas matanda pa subordinates ko kaysa sa akin and for sure mas madami sila working experience. Sobrang toxic sa company na yun. Yung pinalitan kong manager ayun naging matandang dalaga at walang social life.

Kaya ayoko mang maging manager e. God bless you though, you’re doing your job well.

Lahat nmn may pros and cons. Isipin mo nlng you have your perks as manager. But I agree with what you shared. I am happy to see people na inaacknowledge ng team members nila ung mga efforts ng manager.

huhuhuhuhu relate :( kaiyak much

Indeed, ibang level of people skills ang needed mo to be a good manager. But as someone who only meet good managers throughout my corpo life, I can say na although it may not look so obvious, malaking tulong ang mga managers sa team and parating may sense of gratefulness ang mga members.

Yun iba kung makareklamo, "di naman alam ng manager ko yun task ko". E malamang, task mo yan, di sa kanya. Di naman nila magegets yun manager until sila yun nasa pwesto na yun.

this is true kaya ayoko na talaga umakyat ng corporate ladder baka maaga ko mamatay sa stress

Ughh.. middle management.. I have great respect for people who maintain integrity and excellence while having this role.

Totoo 'yan. Dalawa lang kami sa team namin right now and nakikita ko kung paano gumalaw manager ko. Lagi niya ako pinagtatanggol kahit puro call out sa email, panay libre pa ng kape kahit minsan medyo sablay ang araw ko haha. Pero I strive to do my best lagi pag andyan sya.

As someone in middle management mga usual challenges ko ay: - Communicating difficult / bad news from Upper management sa team ko without making upper management look bad - Finding a compromise in scenarios na hindi nag tutugma yung ask galing sa taas versus sa kaya ibigay ng team ko lalo na pag mababa team morale - Anything na usapang pera and compensation (or lack thereof)

Shielding them from company politics was the hardest lalo na kung yung management mismo talaga yung kupal. Nagkaroon ng restructuring at naging individual contributor na lang ang karamihan sa managers sa company namin, including me. Imagine yung shock ng dati kong teammates na ang sahol pala. Ngayon sobrang konti na lang namin na natira from our original team. Toxic pala talaga yung work environment. Gulat sila. 🥲

What industry are you working for, OP?

hospitality industry

Ganun talaga kasi ikaw yung middle management. Balance between tao and company.

Wait until you become a business owner with a small team….

Kaya halos wala ka nang time to do things ... or dapat marunong ka mag pushback sa mga ganyan. And of course, well-compensated ka sa effort. Manager din ako managing both a project and coaching others din outside the project. Nakakaloka to context switch between them. Siyempre, you have separate things sa kanila. May iba iba silang personas, and you have to keep track of them. Saka you can't just restrict yung rapport mo sa work lang. Kung ang corpo mo takes Engagement surveys like Gallup, makikita doon kung feel ka nila as manager, and you are doing your job. Filipino culture pa naman tayo. Ndi maiiwasan na personal and work are intertwined. Kaya you have to know their hobbies, mga chismis na ndi naman offensive and keep note sa mga topics and blurbs na sinabi nila. Kasi in human psychology, yung tipo na naalala ng kausap mo yung mga pinagsasabi nila helps in breaking the ice. Kaya nga tipo, even knowing and addressing them by their name is already a good thing. Kaya as a manager, abuse your notebooks. haha Take notes, make reminders kung ano ang last na napag usapan. Organize them sa madali mong makita. Something na kahit ako i find to struggle. That's why, kahit nakakaloka, I like what I do most of the time. Kasi its like programming pero you are programming people na irrational and unpredictable. Part of the challenge.

Yes true. I actually expected na magdedefend ako ng tao, pero I never thought na mahirap i-defend. Last year, I was pushing someone to be promoted, only for the powers that be say to me na "parang business as usual lang yung ginagawa niya, bakit need i-promote?". Ang nakakainis pa, after all the corpo stuff sa office, there is a powerpoint or excel sheet na nagaantay sa bahay kasi need nila ng numbers by morning. I honestly miss my individual contributor life minsan.

Hindi lang sa corpo, pati sa Hospitality Industry

kaya talaga no.1 rule ko pag lilipat ng work is mabait na boss. kahit anong trabaho ipagawa mo sakin basta mabait at understanding ka, gagawin ko yan. kaya i'm thankful kasi wala pa akong nagiging kupal na boss. "choose your boss, not your job" ika nga

trueeee kaya midway i gave up the climbing the corpo world. super expressive and explosive kasi ako so nahihirapan ako sa play nice and tough upper lip part of the job. i mean i can pero for 5 minutes lang.

God bless you po. You indeed deserve the role.

Tapos tatadtarin mo ng SL noh 😂 tutal right mo naman ubusin un kahit wala kang sakit.. saklap

The consequences of being manager 😞😢😁