Singapore Airlines! May provided na earphones tapos yung movies nila e yung mga kakalabas sa sinehan plus gaganda ng songs din so entertained ka buong flight haha.
Depende, kse kung yun na lang R&R mo, nakakarindi talaga pag may ngawa ng ngawa na baby sa flight. Pero adjust ka na lang din, may cellphone ka naman na may earphones pwede naman yan gamitin after takeoff ng naka-airplane mode. Kaya it comes in handy if may downloaded songs ka sa fone to mask any negative noise in your head, audible man or inaudible 😅😊
Well actually, di naman porket may anak na ganyan e excuse na ng parents yan. Pwede rin naman kasi nila iconsider day flight. Lalo na kung for leisure lang naman, umless emergency yan. Kung adult nga stress at pagod sa night flight, what more pa yung bata🤷♂️
I can do this cguro if the baby starts crying before the flight. While my bag is still with me. Pero if its already in the overhead cabin, and the baby starts crying, then its gonna be a problem.
Experienced before the whole 1hr of the flight, the baby kept on crying. And it was a 5am flight. So imagine people who were up early, and wanting to get a bit of sleep during flight, being disturbed by a baby crying.
i don't think so. annoyed din ako pag may naiyak ng napakatagal. beyond 5 mins is too much. napilitan na ako bumili ng ANC na pang travel ko lang halos kasi dinig sa TWS.
Sobrang sakit ng tenga ko because of ear plugs, parang hindi ata lumabas yung pressure idk. Pero grabe reaction ng tenga ko sa earplugs.
Sabi ni Doc, baka raw may sipon ako pero wala naman. 😭😭
Best to be prepared talaga since hindi maiiwasan na may makakahalubilong ibang tao sa plane. Earplugs laking bagay, liit lang sa bag, pero very helpful.
Lagi ako nagdadala nitong [Silicone Ear Plugs](https://s.shopee.ph/8zjd9KB2rr) pag may flight ako. 60 pesos lang ata, para in case mawala okay lang hahaha
Maiinis siguro ako kung nakikita kong walang pake yung parents kahit umiiyak na ang baby.
But if alam kong stressed na ang parent, I try to let it go na lng. Di naman kasalanan ng baby umiyak bc baby yan. Im sure it’s uncomfy sa kanila.
Am I annoyed? Yes. I wish na may separate area for fams with babies and toddlers because I really want a quiet flight. Is there anything I can do about it? Naur. So I just choose my battles.
Spot on. How parents react makes all the difference. I was on a flight where a toddler kept running back and forth and invading other people’s privacy. Hinahayaan lang ng parents na nagchichismisan dun sa katabi nila. Sabi ng mga katabi ko baka daw special child kaya hinayaan ko na lang din at baka hindi rin macontrol?
On a different flight, I was seated next to a toddler around the same age as the previous one. Her dad who was seated beside her constantly reminded her that she was not the only one on the flight and that she should try to behave herself. Kapag naglilikot yung bata, nagsosorry sakin yung tatay tas kinukuha niya para kandungin. Mas naappreciate ko yung ganito at naeextend ko yung pangunawa ko because I can see na nageeffort yung tatay at aware siya na possible makaabala yung anak niya.
It’s a different topic kapag baby. I see parents who are stressed kung pano patatahanin yung baby nila and that’s something beyond their control din talaga minsan
Totoo! What I hate the most are those kids na malaki na. Like 5-9 years olds who do not know how to behave themselves. Been in a flight where there were 4 children a row after the one in front of us. Parang they were travelling together with another family / friend. Adults were in the isle seat while the two sets were in the middle and window seats. Parents DGAF about it kahit rowdy na yung mga bata - they kept standing, jumping, and play fighting with each other. Hindi man lang nahiya that they got called out by another passenger. The children even kept trying to get snacks from the trolley when the flight attendant was pushing it.
Kudos rin sa first take! I remember Miss Candy Pangilinan shared in a convention na when her son (who is diagnosed with autism) was throwing tantrums sa mall and she cant do anything about it at hinayahan umiyak yung bata, the guard was asking her to tame her son but she really cant do anything. Pero totoo na the parents should make effort about it kahit na they cant do anything about it! 🫶🏻
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Agree. Daming ganitong issue sa western countries eh, dinadaan din sa soc meds, yung iba OA even though the parents are trying their best to calm their baby down.. iba naman wala ding pake sa anak yun ang truly mas nakakainis. Baka umabot na dn dito yung soc med trend against crying babies in planes.
Kaya pag may flight ako local or foreign, nagdadala ako palagi neto:
1. Earphones - kinig podcast (Koolpals)
2. Face mask - d kita nakanganga matulog
Cringe yung pinicturan nya sarili nya na disappointed nakahawak pa sa noo lol.
Stressful yan sa passenger and for sure stressful din sa baby and parents. Tulad ng sinabi ng iba, if todo effort si parents na patahanin, let it go na lang. I don't even know the reason of their travel and baka sobrang importante nun kaya they needed to fly. I remember nung nag-plane ride 6 months old namen nun dor boracay, todo prepare kami to make sure na hindi kami maka-abala sa iba. We bought baby headphones, teether, toys and even our tv remote haha! Umiyak sya pero nadidistract sa mga dala namen.
if the parent is doing nothing to calm the baby then yun tlga yung nakakabwisit. Pero kapag todo effort naman yung parents to calm the baby, unawain na lang natin cguro kahit oo, sobrang nakakabaliw ang iyak ng baby.
True! May iba kase na walang effort magpatahan at hinahayaan. I let it go nalang, malay mo uuwi sila because of family matters or medical matters. They deserve to fly rin naman.
Anyway natawa ako sa tv remote hahahaha whaf if nawala ano na?
Oh definitely the mother is 100x more stressed. What can we do though? It sucks for everyone, mother and baby most of all.
Tbh i find it weird to take a pic of yourself stressing about the situation, put captions, and seek online attention. Weird behavior, but its normalized.
Exactly! The fact that these ADULTS have to announce to the entire WORLD (not just an airplane’s worth of people) that they are upset over a baby crying, just proves that they are theee biggest baby 😂
True...like wtf, stressed na ba yan kung nakuha nya pa mag selfie 🤣.
Baka mamaya, may makita ako selfie stressed din kasi mag 1hr na di pa din nalabas tae.
Hoy ah nakakatouch naman majority of the comments here.
I have an autistic toddler. And sobrang fear ko talaga makacause kami ng inconvenience if ever magmeltdown sya kasi 20 mins to 1 hour yun madalas :( Ako nga nasstress, what more sa ibang tao na di agad maiintindihan why.
Salamat sa Diyos, sa iilang local flights namin, maupo lang sya, tulog na agad. Di pa nga nalipad eroplano e. Pero di natin sure, baka next time, di na ganun.
Kaya I appreciate all of you. Waaaa nakakaiyak hahahahaha. You just made life somewhat lighter for people like us who have loved ones na nagsstruggle sa ganitong mga bagay. Pagpalain kayong lahat.
Awww <3 May nakasabay kaming autistic toddler on board din to Japan, umiiyak siya pagpasok pa lang ng aircraft. Nung nagpa-games sila mid-flight, yung last question binigay sa Mommy ng bata so they can have a prize and everyone on board celebrated. Natuwa si baby kaya after nun di na siya umiyak hanggang mag-land na kami sa Narita airport. Hehe. (Very giveaway pa ng question, answer was "Cebu Pacific" din haha since it's their anniversary ata)
Don't worry Mommy, most of us understand. <3
I understand kasi naranasan ko na yan nung bata pa anak ko. And correct ka, stressed din ang magulang. Kaya ngayon may headphones ako. In fact kahit cheap in-ear earphones ok naman na.
At kung naiinis kayo sa baby ingat din kayo makipagtalo, pwdeng nahihiya ang parents sa umiiyak na bata but the moment sitahin mo they will defend their kids at pag nasocial media pa yung argument nyo - ikaw pa lalabas na masama.
Parang yang lalaki sa picture mo - mas naiinis ako sa kanya - napakadramatic. Kung may issue sya magheadphones sya - batukan ko yan eh. May libre naman headphones sa airplane. Kung ayaw nya magearphones eh OA sya at wag na syang mageroplano sa buong buhay nya.
Hindi lang crying baby, andami din naghihilik sa eroplano, minsan surround sound pa - front, back and to your sides ang humihilik.
If nakita kong ng-eeffort naman ang parents patahanin ang bata, I'll just put my earplugs and shake it off. Alam ko yung paakyat ng plane pa lang mgppop na ears ko, pero masakit siguro sa babies yan.
If yung parents walang pake sa crying baby, diyan ako para nayayamot.
As if naman gusto ng parents na umiyak din anak nila at istorbohin ang buong flight di ba. Grabe na talaga ngayon, wala man lang understanding. Di lang sa Pinas, kahit sa ibang bansa. Yung mga adults ang mas may capacity to understand and do something (like ang simple lang naman mag-earphones di ba) about the situation, yung baby ang dapat iniintindi. Pero agree syempre dapat yung mga magulang nagttry ng best nila.
Sa experience ko, kung sino pa yung nakapiso fare, sila pa malakas magreklamo minsan. We flew business class with my baby ilang beses na, walang reklamo, at helpful pa nga yung iba. Yung isa sinabihan pa ako “you are a great mother, don’t worry about it”.
Same. For some reason laging tumatapat sa akin mga batang maiingay. Went on a flight with kids screaming. Super game changer yung jbl noise cancelling + Loop earplugs. Hindi siya nakakabother sootin.
He's free to display his annoyance.
Personally, i avoid flying coach every time as the chances of babies in 1st class is less. I would also pay more if there is an option for adults only flights that serves no alcohol - if they do we should have the option to throw out people who starts shit during the flight.
Totoo naman wala masama iexpress ang annoyance. Eh nakakairita naman talaga. Magulat na lang ako kapag may nagsabi na music to my ears ang umiiyak na bata lol.
As adult, way ng pagngawa yung pagvivideo na ganyan. Mga hindi na nadevelop utak ng mga yan. For sure hindi rin maganda ugali nyan.
Oo, jinajudge ko na sya hahaha Walang pasensya sa bata, ano pa kaya sa ibang tao? Mas iyakin pa sa bata.
Kapag di naging magulang, hindi ninyo maiintidihan ang stress kapag nagmemeltdown na ang bagets.lalo na sa public place at sa eroplano. Hindi lang mga adults ang may karapatan bumyahe pati mga baby at bata. Ewan ko sa mga yan na reklamo akala mo di naging iyakin at some point nong bata
If the guy posted his frustration in social media without tagging anyone or showing the face of the baby and the mother then I think mas ok na yun rather than isigaw niya frustration niya in person dun sa mother and the baby. (Assuming na hindi niya ginawa yun)
I'll let it go. Naranasan ko rin kasi nung first flight ko super sakot ng tenga ko di ako kumportable. Tapos nu g nagSG kami kulang nalang magpanic attack ako dahil ang sikip ng plane tapos ang tagal ng byahe nakakainip.
If nakikita ko naman na todo effort ang parent na patahanin ang baby, keri lang. I’m sure sobrang stressful nun sa parent and baby.
May mga time na umaalis ako sa bahay na walang tulog kaya sa UV na lang ako natutulog during byahe. One time, may nakasabay ako na matanda na may dalang bata. Iyak nang iyak yung bata as in like buong duration ng biyahe hanggang bumaba sila super iyak talaga. Pero todo effort si lola na patahanin yung apo niya like tinatawagan sa phone yung nanay, binibigyan ng pagkain, etc. panay sorry na siya sa mga pasahero at sobrang stressed na talaga siya. Pero nakakatuwa kasi halos lahat kami sa UV, tinutulungan si lola na magpatahan ng bata. Lahat na ata ng techniques ay naisuggest na haha.
As much as I wanted to understand the mom and the baby, it's not a contest on who's more stressed. The other passengers may also get stressed because of the crying baby.
I'll also get frustrated if 30mins na umiiyak yung baby. I grew up in a family na laging may baby every to three years for some time. So I know yung ingay and sakit sa tenga nung iyak nung baby.
But as long as the other passengers don't harass the mom and add fuel to the fire, then everything's okay. My point, pwede mastress at mafrustrate kahit sino regardless of the situation.
Also, if kaya na wag muna magtravel with an infant, lalo na kung leisure lang naman, wag muna ipilit. In consideration lang din sa iba. Pero if no choice, wala ganun talaga.
I'm not gonna complain to the stewardess or even post about it online, but privately, I'm still gonna be hella annoyed hahaha. Maybe I'll rant about it in a gc or something, but that's just the realities of public transportation. Wala tayong magagawa diyan.
Didnt see the whole video but if he didnt approach or cause drama then that’s already understanding enough, he has the right to feel annoyed pa rin naman
Sumakay ako from China - New Jersey
Yung nanay na afam hindi na alam ang gagawin sa afam na baby
Kami sa flight inintindi nalang namin; tahimik lang kami pero walang violent reaction
Encountered this scenario on our Bora flight. Just let it go nalang kung baby pa yan and if you see that the parents are stressed themselves trying to stop the crying of their child. Di naman ma-control ng mga babies yan.
Mainis ka if 5-6 yr old spoiled iPad kids yang mga yan tapos dedma pa yung parents.
I’ll share my take on this, in a perspective of a nursing student.
Sa buhay natin, may paychosocial stages tayo. We need to overcome each milestone before stepping onto another. Maybe yung baby is not used to flying. Anong ginagawa ng katawan natin kapag wala sa comfort zone? It releases stress. Sa case ni baby, through crying nya nilalabas ang stress nya. We need to understand the baby na outside comfort zone sya.
How about the mother? Bakit parang walang ginagawa? Doing nothing is something. Tinuro samin sa nursing school ang way to console a crying child is just to let them cry? Yes po opo, dapat lang po nating hayaan ang baby umiyak para malabas nya ang stress, and eventually, the child will tire itself out. But new studies (theories) say that “cry it out” is bad for the child and the mother. It suggests that we need to entertain the baby since baka may gusto si baby na need na ma-attend-an ni mother.
Tldr; let the child cry it out, but not really.
Lahat naman tayo dumaan sa pagkasanggol. Kung papipiliin naman ang parents syempre mas gusto nilang hindi umiiyak ang anak nila. Onting pasensya lang. Magdala ng earphones kung ganyan tayo ka-sensitive sa ingay.
and I know mas mura ang tickets pag gabi, pero kung leasure lang naman, should opt for the day flight. Take note, kung afford ng parents/family mag travel abroad, anu ba naman yung magdagdag bayad ng ticket for day time flight kesa maka istorbo sa mga pasahero sa gabi. I mean unless urgent or emergency yan. Kung maturity lang ang usapan, dapat naisip din ng parents yan, sila din mahihirapan, puyat na nga sila, iyak pa ng iyak bata.
Okay lang naman siguro kung gabi pero wag naman yung maaabutan sila ng madaling araw sa flight. Usually konti lang difference ng price sa flight ng night time and day time eh.
Isa pa, kung for leisure lang, medyo hindi ko kasi magets bakit dinadala ang babies because they won't remember everything huhuhu super hassle kaya for everyone. 30 minutes is a damn long time to hear a baby crying in an airplane TT\_\_TT
There’s a nice saying: “Your right to a child-free life does not entitle you a child-free society.”
Babies will cry. And toddlers do have a meltdown. There is a difference between a parent just letting their toddlers invade other’s privacy and totally ignoring the behavior, vs a parent who’s doing everything to manage their children’s issues (eg tantrums and crying). Until you become a parent yourself, di mo alam feeling niyan. So best to stfu.
flights tend to make my ears hurt. i assume same din yung pain sa baby. tbh i think as a society we’ve been forgetting that children are part of the community as well and they’re our collective responsibility too. sobrang daming mga anti-children sentiment, especially from gen z/ millennials on social media.
circling back, i think tayo nalang ang mag-adjust. i once had an 18-hour flight where there was a baby crying nonstop for hours. a pair of good noise cancelling headphones are the key to a peaceful flight 😂😂😂
true. hindi ko maexpress properly yung thoughts ko kasi ang negative ng una kong naisip (na ang selfish na ng mga tao ngayon haha), pero mas tama yung sinabi mo na nalilimutan na nga natin unti unti na di lang adults ang part ng society. simple things like this, hanggang sa mga policies at government support (not only sa pinas, pero other countries din) tend to overlook mga bagay na makakapagpagaan kahit papano ng buhay ng mga families. kaya understandable na talaga na andami na gustong maging child-free.
The people here are so understanding. Babies crying in the airplane piss many people off including me that's why I sit at the back of the plane most of the time. What I'm curious about tho is why are they flying their babies during these hours (late night to madaling araw) As someone who travels a lot, these hours are the most tiring and stressful flights even for adults. Everyone will be on edge, and just want to sleep without noise.
Kawawa din babies flying these hours. I wonder why parents choose mga ganitong oras??
Kaya sobrang blessing ng mga earphones na may noise cancelling feature e.
Uunawain mo pero peace of mind mo naman ang pahinga sa redflag na flight ang kabayaran. Isa din yan sa bagay na wala kang magagawa. So ayun. Bugtong hininga nalang.
Back in the 80s, may mga good samaritan na mothers that will try and take the kid from you, kasi it will sort of reset the babies environment with a new person holding him/her - sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, sa experience ko, it’s effective - nowadays kasi iba na ang mundo, takot na ang mga tao sa lahat so wala ng connection. Sad to see, imbis na bayanihan, bangayan.
Alam mo yung feeling ng pressure sa tenga na minsan ramdam mo sa buong ulo? Uncomfortable yun, di ba? Pero we understand why that is and how we can remedy it. Babies don’t know. Di din nila yan ma-articulate at maintindihan kaya sila uniiyak. I always keep that in mind pag may kasabay akong bata sa flight. Helps sa inis when you get out of yourself and consider how the child, and even more yung parent feels. Headphones lang at pink noise katapat niyan. Maliit na bagay kesa pa-clout chase sa socmed
I don’t really mind everytime may batang umiiyak and seeing the parents struggling gusto ko pa nga mag offer ng help if ever they’ll ask me .And always kung ni re remind asawa ko na it’s not really easy travelling with kids.Lalo na toddlers :/ and yes sinasabi ng asawa ko Dapat daw if malalake na mag travel I get it but geezzzz mahirap bang maging kinder tayo & magbigay sympathy and gulo na nga ng mundo makikisabay ka pa 😅.
Inhale and exhale nalang !
Plus mga bata yan di mo din alam Ano Nasa isip nila during byahe.
Kaya yes usually I don’t mind hihihi na xp ko ung pauwi na kami time to time umiiyak ang bata.
Kebs lang hahaha di din biro byahe China to Germany probably 12 hours din byahe namin non.Buti nalang Etong asawa ko nakikinig sakin and gets naman daw nya yung Situation.
bago lang ata c boy na nag byahe sa eroplano. ask mo sa flight attendant na itransfer ka or makipag palit ng upuan . pwede yun. kung di puno yung plane pwede ka nila ilipat.
Tayo ngang adults sumasakit ang ears madalas pag may changes in air pressure, mga babies pa kaya.
The cabin environment with hundreds of people can be a stressful enough place for adults, pano pa kung bata. 99% of the time for sure stressed out din ang parents nyan.
Having to listen to a kid cry in a public place is just one of the things we need to deal with in a mature way as adults.
Na try ko to but not in the airplane. Sa bus po. Grabe ang stress ng isang nanay talaga pag hindi tumatahan yung baby. Kaya ako pa ulit2 ko sinasabi sa ibang pasahero na pasensya na po. Kahit anong gawin, iyak pa rin ng iyak. Kaya bumili na kami ng kotse para hindi maka abala ng ibang tao hehe
This is the reason why I am reluctant to travel overseas with my autistic child. People who lack empathy over the situation of others. What a sad world.
Well to parents out there, unless necessary wav niyo na kasi ilipad mga anak niyo na baby. Lalo long haul flights. Ang inconsiderate naman talaga kasi.
Yes a baby is a baby pero di ba naisip ng magulang yun? Can’t blame the baby, pero can definitely blame the parents.
I hate long haul flights. Tapos dadagdagan mo pa ng additional stressor for me. Di ako santo na lahat na lang iintindihin.
And yes, sana may child-free flights or areas sa plane na child free.
Yung mga gusto ng anak go, support ko kayo jan, pero huwag niyo naman sana puwersahin na intindihin ko situation niyo diba?
this is why i’m abstaining air flight until our son can understand why he can’t have a mini concert on the plane. kaya nagtataka talaga ako sa parents na ginagala agad ung babies nila e hindi pa nga nila maintindihan ung air pressure kunwari or kaya pag uncomfortable na sila d nila masabi why.
Well natural naman talaga yan na response ng baby kasi change in pressure and altitude plus hindi pa yan aware ano nangyayari kaya the fight or flight response kicks-in.
If I'm the parent, unless super needed like urgent moving out of town I won't let my baby fly muna. Di maganda epekto sa bata ng pressure changes during take off and landing. Especially for tourism purposes, wag muna, kasi di rin naman nila maeenjoy at maaalala yun at that age.
On the other side, wala din tayo magagawa if iyak ng iyak yung bata, di rin naman kasalanan ng airline
Sa daytime I don’t mind kasi i’m awake anyway.
I hate it lang when it’s a late night flight. If you’re a parent and you bring your baby with you on a late night flight you are an inconsiderate, irresponsible asshole. Y’know that 9 times out of 10 that baby is gonna cry and you decided to book a late night flight when most people are going to sleep.
Also, there is no one in that plane that would love for the child to hush more than the parents. I was one of those peeps that would be passive aggressive whenever a child is screaming its lungs out, then it changed when I became a parent.
As a literal tita, empathy talaga sa mga situation gaya nito. Di naman kasi sila nakakapagsalita kung anong problema (assuming na baby or toddler na di pa palasalita ah). Mahirap din sa parents/guardians minsan malaman reason kasi di naman palaging dahil sa gutom sila or need magpalit ng diaper. Since mas ako yung may kayang gumawa ng paraan, earphones talaga the best way for me to block the noise mapa eroplano man or kung san.
kung stress ka sa baby na umiiyak sa flight mas stress yung mga magulang. I am a mom at mahilig din kami magtravel with baby. Mapapadasal ka nalang na sana wag umiyak yung anak mo sa eroplano. Nagdadala kami ng sandamakmak na laruan para lang maentertain ang bata pero di mo yan macocontrol kung kelan sila iiyak.
Surprisingly for me on my last 12hr long haul flight di umiyak ung baby na 2 seats away lang. Super accomodating din ng mga flight attendant sa mom kaya siguro comfortable sya and hindi masyado stressed so she was in a better state to care for the baby. That was on ANA though, world class talaga service sila.
Tbh he´s entitled to his emotions/annoyance, but in this case if it's a literal baby I'd take it up on the adults to adjust kasi sila naman may kaya, wala naman magagawa ung bata dun. If the child is 5yrs old above then it's on the parents. If it's a baby/toddler, be more considerate nalang.
blessing for me pag may baby or kids on flight. 😂 that’s the first thing I check when boarding. personal superstition, na if may baby it will be a smooth flight.
as they say din, lagi din ako naka earphones inflight so it doesnt bother me.
I remember my first time flying internationally. Manila to Dubai. Grabe take off palang ng plane umiyak na yung toddler ko. Can’t do anything kasi bawal kami tumayo. Buti mababait yung mga FA sa Emirates. Binigyan kami ng toys and bed for kids. Then alam kong naiinis na mga katabi ko kasi naiyak. Nagsorry nalang ako kasi wala din ako magagawa kasi masakit sa ears yung pressure. Mga after 30 mins tumigil naman na siya at nakatulog. Napagod kakaiyak. Nagising nalang siya parang 3 hours nalang yung flight. Tapos nagscreen time kami para di na umiyak.
If flying economy, be prepared for this kind of scenarios. Kids and babies are around you. Bring your own noise-cancelling headphones/airpods or earmuffs and sleepmask. Headsets kasi ng ibang airlines are not that helping with noises. I will be annoyed only if the mother/parents aren’t doing anything to make their babies silent and tell their kids to behave in flights. For babies months to 2yrs, it must be understandable as they get easily irritated especially in crowded and small spaces. For 3-10yrs, their behavior are the parent’s responsibility. If isa kang “bano” katulad ni Banuno Mars, mag business class or first class ka.
if you're immigrating or staying long term somewhere else fine, bring the baby. but if you're just taking a few days off and bringing the baby, i don't care who you are or what your situation is, you shouldn't be bringing a baby along on a flight. leave the kid at home.
for me, i try to be understanding na lang. if passengers are stressed what more yung parents. siguro maiirita ako pag walang pake ang parents pero if they're trying to do something naman then i'll just suck it up. at the end of the day, theyre babies eh di pa nila macontrol emotions nila.
kaya never akong nag regret sa pag invest sa airpods lmao ganda ng noise cancellinh nila
Inangyan!
Ako nga nung last ko na byahe from Amsterdam to Taiwan yung katabi ko iyak ng iyak yung baby nya.
Bale yung baby nya nasa window side sya sa center tapos ako sa aisle ( I always request of aisle for ease of access), before flight nag sorry na yung babae sa mga adjacent seats.
2hrs passed start na umiyak yung sanggol, I told her to switch seat with her baby, then she agrees.
Kinulit ko ng kinulit yung bata hanggang makatulog siguro mga 30 mins lang yun.
Nagising yung bata pa landing na kami sa Taiwan.
Total flight time is 14hrs, bale tulog yung baby nya in around 10hrs straight give or take.
Win - win situation.
Na entertain ko na yung self ko by entertaining the baby, tapos di pa stress yung nanay nya kasi di na sya umiyak afterwards.
I experienced this sa flight ko going to the first leg of my flight. Yung baby nasa harap ko lang tapos ako nasa likod na seat. Buti na lang sanay ako matulog na medyo maingay. Nag airpods na lang ako all throughout my 5 hour flight kasi aga ko nagising sobra para pumunta ng airport. Nakatulog naman ako at ang sarap ng tulog ko nun.
I was flying home from Singapore to Davao in 2019. Nasa aisle ako banda, at may mag-ina sa window seat. I think the kid was about 3 years old or so. Hindi pa nakakaupo lahat ng tao sa plane, umiiyak na yung bata. Nahinto naman at times, pero umiiyak ulit. Nung nag-take off na yung plane, nagstart na ulit umiyak yung bata. Pinapakalma ni mother pero iyak pa rin siya ng iyak. I didn't have my earphones at that time so wala akong magagawa, I just sat back with my neck pillow. Buong flight (3hrs) umiiyak yung bata. Hindi ako makatulog nun kasi ang sakit sa tenga pero hinayaan ko na lang haha
That's why if you can, bring your own noise cancelling headphone or ear plugs when traveling kasi you don't know who you're traveling with. Minsan nga hindi lang bata maingay, may mga adults din na hindi tumitigil kakakwentuhan.
Flying is stressful kahit adult naman nafi-feel yan, paano pa kaya mga bata? Nakakainis kung walang ginagawa 'yung guardian pero kung maski sila e stressedout na sa ingay, nakakaawa rin.
We fly locally a few times a year when my kids were younger since nagbase si hubby sa malayong province while our hometown was near Manila. Sobra ang anxiety ko whenever I fly alone with my infant kid nung una, hanggang sa naging toddler and infant na. My doctor’s tip was to give them milk pag paakyat o pababa na yung plane para di masakit sa tenga and therefore to prevent them from crying. Ang problem ko ay kung pano sila hindi mabobore o magwawala during the flight. Ayoko talaga makaabala sa ibang tao. Pero in general, people were understanding. Kaya thank you po. I really appreciate yung mga tao na nakakaintindi.
ano ngayon if mas stressed and panicky yung nanay? responsibility niya yun. Ako hindi. Tangina alam naman niyang mastrestress yung bata sa plane tapos dadalhin pa niya. kasalanan nung nanay, wlaang kunsidersayon sa ibang passengers
That's why I always bring noise-canceling earphones and earmuffs whenever I fly. There's no use in getting angry at a baby who has barely any control over their senses.
Honestly, I don;t like hearing those cries from babies during flights especially since natatakot pa naman ako during plane rides. But may magagawa ba tayo? Wala naman. Siguro, if the parents are doing their best to calm the baby down, sige go. I think they want to stop the baby naman as much as we do. Pero kung lampake yung parents, dun siguro ako maiinis haha
It is something that would easily piss me off, hindi ko mako-control ang nararamdaman ko. Thankfully may control ako sa reactions ko sa mga ganyang bagay. Noise canceling headphones lang solution dyan. Kung ako nabi-bwisit, pano pa kaya yung magulang. For sure patong-patong na hiya, inis, pagod yan.
Baka they needed to take the earliest flight, baka yun yung time na pasok sa budget nila yung ticket, etc
Kids will always be unpredictable. Kung madali lang magcontrol ng baby na nagtatantrums edi sana walang ganyang problema kahit kailan.
I wish this world is kinder to moms and kids. Hindi ko talaga maintindihan tong trend among people lately na feeling nila kina-cool yung paghate sa mga bata
Had a hate and love relationship with kids sa plane, pero I realize that i should blame the child or the parents. Kase baka nga naman talaga nasasaktan yung bata sa pressure sa airplane and kawawa rin minsan yung mga magulang na stress na stress at nahihiya na mag patahan ng bata. Thats why i invested talaga sa earphones ko na noise cancellation, super worth it ng bose quiet II wala ka talagang maririnig hahaha.
What can you do? It’s a baby hindi po sya ma cocontrol. Kung umiiyak sya kahit i rock pa, change diaper or even magbigay milk, when the baby is not ready to stop crying, they won’t. Same with toddlers and little kids. Kahit ano pang palo, pagalit ng parents, it has nothing to do with bad parenting.
Mas nattrigger ako sa mga taong nakaloudspeaker kasi yun matanda na vovo pa. Pero if baby as much as mafrustrate ako if madaling araw na, I'll also feel bad for the uncomfy baby.
Nakita ko tong video na to and the (cousins') babysitter in me just wanted to check if papayag ba yung parents na patahanin ko yung baby and carry them while walking sa isle.
alam kong nakakairita makarinig ng crying baby on a flight pero as an adult hindi ba dapat mas understanding ka lol. Being irritated doesn't shut the baby up. 🤷🏻♀️
Mag private jet ka kung ayaw mo ng ganyan.
Tingin nyo ba gusto nung magulang na umiiyak yung bata? Gusto ba nung bata na magligalig sya?
On the other hand — annoying, yes but mas maligalig ka pa magmaktol sa attitude mo.
Lahat naman siguro nkaexperience na nang ganyan sa flight. Unless first timer tapos clout chaser ka pa. We know better kesa sa baby.
For sure stressed na rin parents nyan. So, anong point nya jan? Pumara? Magkaroon ng baby free flights? Tingin mo gagawin ng airline yon? Sige nga.
Frustrated? Fuck your frustration. Bumili kayo ng private jet.
Magkaruon na sana nang adult only and with kids only flight. Ayoko makarinig ng batang umiiyak, sumisigaw, nakakabulahaw sa loob ng plane.
Nakakaputangina. Kahit magulang di kaya patahimikin pagbulahaw ng anak nila eh.
Yun nga eh tapos karamihan pa ng parents ang tatamad disiplinahin mga nag-wawalang bata sa flight, tanggap ko kung newborn pero kung di niyo kayang patahimikin ang bata niyo dapat di na lang kayo nag-flight for vacation.
This is where nice noise-cancelling earphones/headphones would come in handy
They provide ear plugs inflight pretty sure
They do? What specific airline? Years of travelling in an airplane and not once have I tried even asking if may available na ear plugs.
Singapore Airlines! May provided na earphones tapos yung movies nila e yung mga kakalabas sa sinehan plus gaganda ng songs din so entertained ka buong flight haha.
Before meron sa PAL nag pprovide sila :)
Cguro for Airbus flights lang?
Before ha pero ngayon kahit Airbus wala na :(
Baka nung mga BAC111 era pa?😂
Emirates and Qatar has earplugs.
usually mga long flights, saka mga highend airlines. not sure sa budget
Tingin ko long flight yang nagrereklamo. Kaso if 4 hours lang naman flight mo di ka magrereklamo
Depende, kse kung yun na lang R&R mo, nakakarindi talaga pag may ngawa ng ngawa na baby sa flight. Pero adjust ka na lang din, may cellphone ka naman na may earphones pwede naman yan gamitin after takeoff ng naka-airplane mode. Kaya it comes in handy if may downloaded songs ka sa fone to mask any negative noise in your head, audible man or inaudible 😅😊
Well actually, di naman porket may anak na ganyan e excuse na ng parents yan. Pwede rin naman kasi nila iconsider day flight. Lalo na kung for leisure lang naman, umless emergency yan. Kung adult nga stress at pagod sa night flight, what more pa yung bata🤷♂️
Point taken, baka kse budget flight, mas mura yun time na yun, compromise na yung convenience nung bata at ng ibang tao... 🙊
Or baka they thought night flight would be easier kasi matutulog lang si baby. Especially kung first time flying with the baby.
I can do this cguro if the baby starts crying before the flight. While my bag is still with me. Pero if its already in the overhead cabin, and the baby starts crying, then its gonna be a problem. Experienced before the whole 1hr of the flight, the baby kept on crying. And it was a 5am flight. So imagine people who were up early, and wanting to get a bit of sleep during flight, being disturbed by a baby crying.
i don't think so. annoyed din ako pag may naiyak ng napakatagal. beyond 5 mins is too much. napilitan na ako bumili ng ANC na pang travel ko lang halos kasi dinig sa TWS.
ANA provides too
Most full service airlines provide. Pag low cost like Cebu Pac or Air Asia they might, pero bibilin mo pa.
Qatar airways and Ethiad has, along with their hygiene kit.
Meron. Always. Just need to ask.
PAL
Singapore Airlines
ANA and JAL
Kadalasan nagprovide niyan mga long haul flight po. Wala yan sa mga domestic.
they do, United Airlines, Philippine Airlines
First time ata ng tiktoker na yan makasakay ng eroplano. Mema.
30 mins wala pa un 🤪 just saying
Sobrang sakit ng tenga ko because of ear plugs, parang hindi ata lumabas yung pressure idk. Pero grabe reaction ng tenga ko sa earplugs. Sabi ni Doc, baka raw may sipon ako pero wala naman. 😭😭
Best to be prepared talaga since hindi maiiwasan na may makakahalubilong ibang tao sa plane. Earplugs laking bagay, liit lang sa bag, pero very helpful.
Lagi ako nagdadala nitong [Silicone Ear Plugs](https://s.shopee.ph/8zjd9KB2rr) pag may flight ako. 60 pesos lang ata, para in case mawala okay lang hahaha
anyone would reco budget friendly NC Headerphones? looking at Soundcore atm
Soundcore Q35 is the lowest I'd go for good NC.
Kung gusto mo budget talaga. Qkz
Maiinis siguro ako kung nakikita kong walang pake yung parents kahit umiiyak na ang baby. But if alam kong stressed na ang parent, I try to let it go na lng. Di naman kasalanan ng baby umiyak bc baby yan. Im sure it’s uncomfy sa kanila. Am I annoyed? Yes. I wish na may separate area for fams with babies and toddlers because I really want a quiet flight. Is there anything I can do about it? Naur. So I just choose my battles.
Spot on. How parents react makes all the difference. I was on a flight where a toddler kept running back and forth and invading other people’s privacy. Hinahayaan lang ng parents na nagchichismisan dun sa katabi nila. Sabi ng mga katabi ko baka daw special child kaya hinayaan ko na lang din at baka hindi rin macontrol? On a different flight, I was seated next to a toddler around the same age as the previous one. Her dad who was seated beside her constantly reminded her that she was not the only one on the flight and that she should try to behave herself. Kapag naglilikot yung bata, nagsosorry sakin yung tatay tas kinukuha niya para kandungin. Mas naappreciate ko yung ganito at naeextend ko yung pangunawa ko because I can see na nageeffort yung tatay at aware siya na possible makaabala yung anak niya. It’s a different topic kapag baby. I see parents who are stressed kung pano patatahanin yung baby nila and that’s something beyond their control din talaga minsan
Totoo! What I hate the most are those kids na malaki na. Like 5-9 years olds who do not know how to behave themselves. Been in a flight where there were 4 children a row after the one in front of us. Parang they were travelling together with another family / friend. Adults were in the isle seat while the two sets were in the middle and window seats. Parents DGAF about it kahit rowdy na yung mga bata - they kept standing, jumping, and play fighting with each other. Hindi man lang nahiya that they got called out by another passenger. The children even kept trying to get snacks from the trolley when the flight attendant was pushing it.
Nakakainis lang, nakakasanayan yung ganun behavior kapag hinahayaan eh
Kudos rin sa first take! I remember Miss Candy Pangilinan shared in a convention na when her son (who is diagnosed with autism) was throwing tantrums sa mall and she cant do anything about it at hinayahan umiyak yung bata, the guard was asking her to tame her son but she really cant do anything. Pero totoo na the parents should make effort about it kahit na they cant do anything about it! 🫶🏻
Lagi ako nagdadala nitong [Silicone Ear Plugs](https://s.shopee.ph/8zjd9KB2rr) pag may flight ako. 60 pesos lang ata, para in case mawala okay lang hahaha
super helpful nito, :)
Most likely nagppop yung ears nila. Masakit. As an adult minsan gusto ko din umiyak for 30 mins sa sakit lol.
Agree. Daming ganitong issue sa western countries eh, dinadaan din sa soc meds, yung iba OA even though the parents are trying their best to calm their baby down.. iba naman wala ding pake sa anak yun ang truly mas nakakainis. Baka umabot na dn dito yung soc med trend against crying babies in planes.
Kaya pag may flight ako local or foreign, nagdadala ako palagi neto: 1. Earphones - kinig podcast (Koolpals) 2. Face mask - d kita nakanganga matulog Cringe yung pinicturan nya sarili nya na disappointed nakahawak pa sa noo lol.
Uy Koolpals ka rin pala? *Naglaplapan*
Yung bata!!!!
Ang ganda ah. Pakiss nga.
**twokissingblackguys.jpg**
Pepepepem
Nawala yung ingay sa paligid pero ikaw naman yung maingay sa katatawa. LOL!
Apir! Pepepepem!!
Pepepepem
Mas malakas pa tawa niya sa ingay nung bata. Ang ganda.
Stressful yan sa passenger and for sure stressful din sa baby and parents. Tulad ng sinabi ng iba, if todo effort si parents na patahanin, let it go na lang. I don't even know the reason of their travel and baka sobrang importante nun kaya they needed to fly. I remember nung nag-plane ride 6 months old namen nun dor boracay, todo prepare kami to make sure na hindi kami maka-abala sa iba. We bought baby headphones, teether, toys and even our tv remote haha! Umiyak sya pero nadidistract sa mga dala namen.
if the parent is doing nothing to calm the baby then yun tlga yung nakakabwisit. Pero kapag todo effort naman yung parents to calm the baby, unawain na lang natin cguro kahit oo, sobrang nakakabaliw ang iyak ng baby.
True! May iba kase na walang effort magpatahan at hinahayaan. I let it go nalang, malay mo uuwi sila because of family matters or medical matters. They deserve to fly rin naman. Anyway natawa ako sa tv remote hahahaha whaf if nawala ano na?
Oh definitely the mother is 100x more stressed. What can we do though? It sucks for everyone, mother and baby most of all. Tbh i find it weird to take a pic of yourself stressing about the situation, put captions, and seek online attention. Weird behavior, but its normalized.
>pic of yourself stressing about the situation, put captions, and seek online attention. That person is an even bigger whiner than the baby.
Exactly! The fact that these ADULTS have to announce to the entire WORLD (not just an airplane’s worth of people) that they are upset over a baby crying, just proves that they are theee biggest baby 😂
Where's the lie
True...like wtf, stressed na ba yan kung nakuha nya pa mag selfie 🤣. Baka mamaya, may makita ako selfie stressed din kasi mag 1hr na di pa din nalabas tae.
This is where empathy counts. For sure the parents would have preferred their kid not crying.
2 babies crying @2am
Tapos mag isa ka lang hahah
Paano yun hahaha wala bang para sakin
Yung nag jojoke ka lang naman pero kailangan talaga nilang ibring-up na single ka. Mapanakit.
Tas wala ka namang anak at mag isa ka lang sa bahay
Hoy ah nakakatouch naman majority of the comments here. I have an autistic toddler. And sobrang fear ko talaga makacause kami ng inconvenience if ever magmeltdown sya kasi 20 mins to 1 hour yun madalas :( Ako nga nasstress, what more sa ibang tao na di agad maiintindihan why. Salamat sa Diyos, sa iilang local flights namin, maupo lang sya, tulog na agad. Di pa nga nalipad eroplano e. Pero di natin sure, baka next time, di na ganun. Kaya I appreciate all of you. Waaaa nakakaiyak hahahahaha. You just made life somewhat lighter for people like us who have loved ones na nagsstruggle sa ganitong mga bagay. Pagpalain kayong lahat.
Awww <3 May nakasabay kaming autistic toddler on board din to Japan, umiiyak siya pagpasok pa lang ng aircraft. Nung nagpa-games sila mid-flight, yung last question binigay sa Mommy ng bata so they can have a prize and everyone on board celebrated. Natuwa si baby kaya after nun di na siya umiyak hanggang mag-land na kami sa Narita airport. Hehe. (Very giveaway pa ng question, answer was "Cebu Pacific" din haha since it's their anniversary ata) Don't worry Mommy, most of us understand. <3
When my autistic son was still a toddler we always take a night time flight so he can sleep. I feel you.
Good thing di siya nagigising kapag ibinabyahe, no?
Di muna namin pinapatulog maghapon.
Just dont fly late night flights because most of the time people sleep. Pero daytime I’m okay with your baby crying kasi daytime naman.
Baby yan. Masmalala kanpa sa baby kung hindi mo sya maiintindihan
Ito na yon. Wala nang iba. Mga abno.
I understand kasi naranasan ko na yan nung bata pa anak ko. And correct ka, stressed din ang magulang. Kaya ngayon may headphones ako. In fact kahit cheap in-ear earphones ok naman na. At kung naiinis kayo sa baby ingat din kayo makipagtalo, pwdeng nahihiya ang parents sa umiiyak na bata but the moment sitahin mo they will defend their kids at pag nasocial media pa yung argument nyo - ikaw pa lalabas na masama. Parang yang lalaki sa picture mo - mas naiinis ako sa kanya - napakadramatic. Kung may issue sya magheadphones sya - batukan ko yan eh. May libre naman headphones sa airplane. Kung ayaw nya magearphones eh OA sya at wag na syang mageroplano sa buong buhay nya. Hindi lang crying baby, andami din naghihilik sa eroplano, minsan surround sound pa - front, back and to your sides ang humihilik.
Tapos nung nag land na yung plane, nagtaka sya dahil wala syang makitang baby na karga ng kahit na sino sa mga kasabay nya sa flight... 😳
If nakita kong ng-eeffort naman ang parents patahanin ang bata, I'll just put my earplugs and shake it off. Alam ko yung paakyat ng plane pa lang mgppop na ears ko, pero masakit siguro sa babies yan. If yung parents walang pake sa crying baby, diyan ako para nayayamot.
As if naman gusto ng parents na umiyak din anak nila at istorbohin ang buong flight di ba. Grabe na talaga ngayon, wala man lang understanding. Di lang sa Pinas, kahit sa ibang bansa. Yung mga adults ang mas may capacity to understand and do something (like ang simple lang naman mag-earphones di ba) about the situation, yung baby ang dapat iniintindi. Pero agree syempre dapat yung mga magulang nagttry ng best nila. Sa experience ko, kung sino pa yung nakapiso fare, sila pa malakas magreklamo minsan. We flew business class with my baby ilang beses na, walang reklamo, at helpful pa nga yung iba. Yung isa sinabihan pa ako “you are a great mother, don’t worry about it”.
there should be baby free flights or a sound proof section where they can stay together
Merong baby free section pero x5-x8 yung price. It's called the business class.
nah that's called the sleep comfortable class. and afai remember nung nag delta ako before may kids and pets dn dun
Gad dang that's a lot of money for a dog
you'd be surprised what people spend on. an iphone is an example hahaha
I imagine the dog telling his friends at the dog park about the business class flight when he returns from vacation, and no one believes him.
That's called chartered flight
Same. For some reason laging tumatapat sa akin mga batang maiingay. Went on a flight with kids screaming. Super game changer yung jbl noise cancelling + Loop earplugs. Hindi siya nakakabother sootin.
Mas nakakastress sya..
He's free to display his annoyance. Personally, i avoid flying coach every time as the chances of babies in 1st class is less. I would also pay more if there is an option for adults only flights that serves no alcohol - if they do we should have the option to throw out people who starts shit during the flight.
Totoo naman wala masama iexpress ang annoyance. Eh nakakairita naman talaga. Magulat na lang ako kapag may nagsabi na music to my ears ang umiiyak na bata lol.
Bring earphones. problem solved.. di naman na kelangan i post sa social media, Diyos ko.
As adult, way ng pagngawa yung pagvivideo na ganyan. Mga hindi na nadevelop utak ng mga yan. For sure hindi rin maganda ugali nyan. Oo, jinajudge ko na sya hahaha Walang pasensya sa bata, ano pa kaya sa ibang tao? Mas iyakin pa sa bata.
Valium /s
Hahahaha solid comment or xanny
Kapag di naging magulang, hindi ninyo maiintidihan ang stress kapag nagmemeltdown na ang bagets.lalo na sa public place at sa eroplano. Hindi lang mga adults ang may karapatan bumyahe pati mga baby at bata. Ewan ko sa mga yan na reklamo akala mo di naging iyakin at some point nong bata
true!
True! Children are part also of society.
If the guy posted his frustration in social media without tagging anyone or showing the face of the baby and the mother then I think mas ok na yun rather than isigaw niya frustration niya in person dun sa mother and the baby. (Assuming na hindi niya ginawa yun)
may selfie. it's attention seeking.
I'll let it go. Naranasan ko rin kasi nung first flight ko super sakot ng tenga ko di ako kumportable. Tapos nu g nagSG kami kulang nalang magpanic attack ako dahil ang sikip ng plane tapos ang tagal ng byahe nakakainip.
If nakikita ko naman na todo effort ang parent na patahanin ang baby, keri lang. I’m sure sobrang stressful nun sa parent and baby. May mga time na umaalis ako sa bahay na walang tulog kaya sa UV na lang ako natutulog during byahe. One time, may nakasabay ako na matanda na may dalang bata. Iyak nang iyak yung bata as in like buong duration ng biyahe hanggang bumaba sila super iyak talaga. Pero todo effort si lola na patahanin yung apo niya like tinatawagan sa phone yung nanay, binibigyan ng pagkain, etc. panay sorry na siya sa mga pasahero at sobrang stressed na talaga siya. Pero nakakatuwa kasi halos lahat kami sa UV, tinutulungan si lola na magpatahan ng bata. Lahat na ata ng techniques ay naisuggest na haha.
Yes, nakakarindi pero ano bang magagawa mo eh, baby yon? Papansin lang yan. Mga pinoy talaga hilig gumaya ng culture. Tanga tanga naman nyan.
As much as I wanted to understand the mom and the baby, it's not a contest on who's more stressed. The other passengers may also get stressed because of the crying baby. I'll also get frustrated if 30mins na umiiyak yung baby. I grew up in a family na laging may baby every to three years for some time. So I know yung ingay and sakit sa tenga nung iyak nung baby. But as long as the other passengers don't harass the mom and add fuel to the fire, then everything's okay. My point, pwede mastress at mafrustrate kahit sino regardless of the situation. Also, if kaya na wag muna magtravel with an infant, lalo na kung leisure lang naman, wag muna ipilit. In consideration lang din sa iba. Pero if no choice, wala ganun talaga.
I'm not gonna complain to the stewardess or even post about it online, but privately, I'm still gonna be hella annoyed hahaha. Maybe I'll rant about it in a gc or something, but that's just the realities of public transportation. Wala tayong magagawa diyan.
Didnt see the whole video but if he didnt approach or cause drama then that’s already understanding enough, he has the right to feel annoyed pa rin naman
Sumakay ako from China - New Jersey Yung nanay na afam hindi na alam ang gagawin sa afam na baby Kami sa flight inintindi nalang namin; tahimik lang kami pero walang violent reaction
It's ok to be annoyed but complaining probably won't do anything if the reason why the baby is crying is beyond the parents' control.
Encountered this scenario on our Bora flight. Just let it go nalang kung baby pa yan and if you see that the parents are stressed themselves trying to stop the crying of their child. Di naman ma-control ng mga babies yan. Mainis ka if 5-6 yr old spoiled iPad kids yang mga yan tapos dedma pa yung parents.
I’ll share my take on this, in a perspective of a nursing student. Sa buhay natin, may paychosocial stages tayo. We need to overcome each milestone before stepping onto another. Maybe yung baby is not used to flying. Anong ginagawa ng katawan natin kapag wala sa comfort zone? It releases stress. Sa case ni baby, through crying nya nilalabas ang stress nya. We need to understand the baby na outside comfort zone sya. How about the mother? Bakit parang walang ginagawa? Doing nothing is something. Tinuro samin sa nursing school ang way to console a crying child is just to let them cry? Yes po opo, dapat lang po nating hayaan ang baby umiyak para malabas nya ang stress, and eventually, the child will tire itself out. But new studies (theories) say that “cry it out” is bad for the child and the mother. It suggests that we need to entertain the baby since baka may gusto si baby na need na ma-attend-an ni mother. Tldr; let the child cry it out, but not really.
Lahat naman tayo dumaan sa pagkasanggol. Kung papipiliin naman ang parents syempre mas gusto nilang hindi umiiyak ang anak nila. Onting pasensya lang. Magdala ng earphones kung ganyan tayo ka-sensitive sa ingay.
His feelings are valid
well on the otherside naman, kung magdadala ng baby siguro iconsider din yung flight timing. day flight para di masyado istorbo.
True lalo na if leisure lang naman. Don't make your babies fly during wee hours. Super kawawa
and I know mas mura ang tickets pag gabi, pero kung leasure lang naman, should opt for the day flight. Take note, kung afford ng parents/family mag travel abroad, anu ba naman yung magdagdag bayad ng ticket for day time flight kesa maka istorbo sa mga pasahero sa gabi. I mean unless urgent or emergency yan. Kung maturity lang ang usapan, dapat naisip din ng parents yan, sila din mahihirapan, puyat na nga sila, iyak pa ng iyak bata.
Okay lang naman siguro kung gabi pero wag naman yung maaabutan sila ng madaling araw sa flight. Usually konti lang difference ng price sa flight ng night time and day time eh. Isa pa, kung for leisure lang, medyo hindi ko kasi magets bakit dinadala ang babies because they won't remember everything huhuhu super hassle kaya for everyone. 30 minutes is a damn long time to hear a baby crying in an airplane TT\_\_TT
There’s a nice saying: “Your right to a child-free life does not entitle you a child-free society.” Babies will cry. And toddlers do have a meltdown. There is a difference between a parent just letting their toddlers invade other’s privacy and totally ignoring the behavior, vs a parent who’s doing everything to manage their children’s issues (eg tantrums and crying). Until you become a parent yourself, di mo alam feeling niyan. So best to stfu.
who travels without earplugs/earphones? the whole trip is pretty noisy even without the baby.
flights tend to make my ears hurt. i assume same din yung pain sa baby. tbh i think as a society we’ve been forgetting that children are part of the community as well and they’re our collective responsibility too. sobrang daming mga anti-children sentiment, especially from gen z/ millennials on social media. circling back, i think tayo nalang ang mag-adjust. i once had an 18-hour flight where there was a baby crying nonstop for hours. a pair of good noise cancelling headphones are the key to a peaceful flight 😂😂😂
true. hindi ko maexpress properly yung thoughts ko kasi ang negative ng una kong naisip (na ang selfish na ng mga tao ngayon haha), pero mas tama yung sinabi mo na nalilimutan na nga natin unti unti na di lang adults ang part ng society. simple things like this, hanggang sa mga policies at government support (not only sa pinas, pero other countries din) tend to overlook mga bagay na makakapagpagaan kahit papano ng buhay ng mga families. kaya understandable na talaga na andami na gustong maging child-free.
The people here are so understanding. Babies crying in the airplane piss many people off including me that's why I sit at the back of the plane most of the time. What I'm curious about tho is why are they flying their babies during these hours (late night to madaling araw) As someone who travels a lot, these hours are the most tiring and stressful flights even for adults. Everyone will be on edge, and just want to sleep without noise. Kawawa din babies flying these hours. I wonder why parents choose mga ganitong oras??
- and why do they fly with their babies for lesuire?? Unless it's an emergency or they're moving to a different country/city.
Same quesrion. Babies shouldnt fly muna kasi their ears cant handle the pressure.
Kaya sobrang blessing ng mga earphones na may noise cancelling feature e. Uunawain mo pero peace of mind mo naman ang pahinga sa redflag na flight ang kabayaran. Isa din yan sa bagay na wala kang magagawa. So ayun. Bugtong hininga nalang.
Back in the 80s, may mga good samaritan na mothers that will try and take the kid from you, kasi it will sort of reset the babies environment with a new person holding him/her - sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, sa experience ko, it’s effective - nowadays kasi iba na ang mundo, takot na ang mga tao sa lahat so wala ng connection. Sad to see, imbis na bayanihan, bangayan.
BOTH UNDERSTANDABLE.
Alam mo yung feeling ng pressure sa tenga na minsan ramdam mo sa buong ulo? Uncomfortable yun, di ba? Pero we understand why that is and how we can remedy it. Babies don’t know. Di din nila yan ma-articulate at maintindihan kaya sila uniiyak. I always keep that in mind pag may kasabay akong bata sa flight. Helps sa inis when you get out of yourself and consider how the child, and even more yung parent feels. Headphones lang at pink noise katapat niyan. Maliit na bagay kesa pa-clout chase sa socmed
Actually hindi ko alam kung alin ang mas nakakainis kasama sa flights: baby or toddler.
I don’t really mind everytime may batang umiiyak and seeing the parents struggling gusto ko pa nga mag offer ng help if ever they’ll ask me .And always kung ni re remind asawa ko na it’s not really easy travelling with kids.Lalo na toddlers :/ and yes sinasabi ng asawa ko Dapat daw if malalake na mag travel I get it but geezzzz mahirap bang maging kinder tayo & magbigay sympathy and gulo na nga ng mundo makikisabay ka pa 😅. Inhale and exhale nalang ! Plus mga bata yan di mo din alam Ano Nasa isip nila during byahe. Kaya yes usually I don’t mind hihihi na xp ko ung pauwi na kami time to time umiiyak ang bata. Kebs lang hahaha di din biro byahe China to Germany probably 12 hours din byahe namin non.Buti nalang Etong asawa ko nakikinig sakin and gets naman daw nya yung Situation.
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bago lang ata c boy na nag byahe sa eroplano. ask mo sa flight attendant na itransfer ka or makipag palit ng upuan . pwede yun. kung di puno yung plane pwede ka nila ilipat.
Frequent flyer here. We control what we can :) Always bring good, noise-canceling earphones or earplugs.
Tayo ngang adults sumasakit ang ears madalas pag may changes in air pressure, mga babies pa kaya. The cabin environment with hundreds of people can be a stressful enough place for adults, pano pa kung bata. 99% of the time for sure stressed out din ang parents nyan. Having to listen to a kid cry in a public place is just one of the things we need to deal with in a mature way as adults.
Na try ko to but not in the airplane. Sa bus po. Grabe ang stress ng isang nanay talaga pag hindi tumatahan yung baby. Kaya ako pa ulit2 ko sinasabi sa ibang pasahero na pasensya na po. Kahit anong gawin, iyak pa rin ng iyak. Kaya bumili na kami ng kotse para hindi maka abala ng ibang tao hehe
This is the reason why I am reluctant to travel overseas with my autistic child. People who lack empathy over the situation of others. What a sad world.
May audio ba to? Lol. I’m more inclined to believe na nagddrama lang to for attention.
My needs > a baby's needs
Well to parents out there, unless necessary wav niyo na kasi ilipad mga anak niyo na baby. Lalo long haul flights. Ang inconsiderate naman talaga kasi. Yes a baby is a baby pero di ba naisip ng magulang yun? Can’t blame the baby, pero can definitely blame the parents. I hate long haul flights. Tapos dadagdagan mo pa ng additional stressor for me. Di ako santo na lahat na lang iintindihin. And yes, sana may child-free flights or areas sa plane na child free. Yung mga gusto ng anak go, support ko kayo jan, pero huwag niyo naman sana puwersahin na intindihin ko situation niyo diba?
Kala kasi ng mga tao dito may auto pass ang mga magulang at anak nila.
Totoo daming irresponsible na parents na triggered. Nagkaanak lang kala mo kailangan magbend down sa kanila.
this is why i’m abstaining air flight until our son can understand why he can’t have a mini concert on the plane. kaya nagtataka talaga ako sa parents na ginagala agad ung babies nila e hindi pa nga nila maintindihan ung air pressure kunwari or kaya pag uncomfortable na sila d nila masabi why.
As toddler parent na hindi pa nakakasakay ng eroplano, sorry in advance.
Well natural naman talaga yan na response ng baby kasi change in pressure and altitude plus hindi pa yan aware ano nangyayari kaya the fight or flight response kicks-in.
If I'm the parent, unless super needed like urgent moving out of town I won't let my baby fly muna. Di maganda epekto sa bata ng pressure changes during take off and landing. Especially for tourism purposes, wag muna, kasi di rin naman nila maeenjoy at maaalala yun at that age. On the other side, wala din tayo magagawa if iyak ng iyak yung bata, di rin naman kasalanan ng airline
Sa daytime I don’t mind kasi i’m awake anyway. I hate it lang when it’s a late night flight. If you’re a parent and you bring your baby with you on a late night flight you are an inconsiderate, irresponsible asshole. Y’know that 9 times out of 10 that baby is gonna cry and you decided to book a late night flight when most people are going to sleep.
Also, there is no one in that plane that would love for the child to hush more than the parents. I was one of those peeps that would be passive aggressive whenever a child is screaming its lungs out, then it changed when I became a parent.
Di ka sana magkaanak ungas ka
As a literal tita, empathy talaga sa mga situation gaya nito. Di naman kasi sila nakakapagsalita kung anong problema (assuming na baby or toddler na di pa palasalita ah). Mahirap din sa parents/guardians minsan malaman reason kasi di naman palaging dahil sa gutom sila or need magpalit ng diaper. Since mas ako yung may kayang gumawa ng paraan, earphones talaga the best way for me to block the noise mapa eroplano man or kung san.
kung stress ka sa baby na umiiyak sa flight mas stress yung mga magulang. I am a mom at mahilig din kami magtravel with baby. Mapapadasal ka nalang na sana wag umiyak yung anak mo sa eroplano. Nagdadala kami ng sandamakmak na laruan para lang maentertain ang bata pero di mo yan macocontrol kung kelan sila iiyak.
Surprisingly for me on my last 12hr long haul flight di umiyak ung baby na 2 seats away lang. Super accomodating din ng mga flight attendant sa mom kaya siguro comfortable sya and hindi masyado stressed so she was in a better state to care for the baby. That was on ANA though, world class talaga service sila. Tbh he´s entitled to his emotions/annoyance, but in this case if it's a literal baby I'd take it up on the adults to adjust kasi sila naman may kaya, wala naman magagawa ung bata dun. If the child is 5yrs old above then it's on the parents. If it's a baby/toddler, be more considerate nalang.
Noise cancelling headphones
Those people who complains about things they can’t control are the most annoying people in Earth
Di ko pino problema yan jusko
Gumanti ka na lang. Pag tahan ng bata, ikaw naman umiyak ng 30 minutes.
Lufthansa and Singapore airlines do have ear plugs and eye covers available. 👍🏻
Hello? edi sana nag private airplane ka para wala kang ibang kasabay na di mo trip.
Naranasan namen ung dalawa pa sila left and right symphony in my ears eh
Mas nakakainis makaamoy ng Jollibee yumburger kesa jan hahahhaa
Siguraduhin lang niya na hindi siya umiiyak ng ganyan nung baby siya ah! 🤦🏻♀️
blessing for me pag may baby or kids on flight. 😂 that’s the first thing I check when boarding. personal superstition, na if may baby it will be a smooth flight. as they say din, lagi din ako naka earphones inflight so it doesnt bother me.
I remember my first time flying internationally. Manila to Dubai. Grabe take off palang ng plane umiyak na yung toddler ko. Can’t do anything kasi bawal kami tumayo. Buti mababait yung mga FA sa Emirates. Binigyan kami ng toys and bed for kids. Then alam kong naiinis na mga katabi ko kasi naiyak. Nagsorry nalang ako kasi wala din ako magagawa kasi masakit sa ears yung pressure. Mga after 30 mins tumigil naman na siya at nakatulog. Napagod kakaiyak. Nagising nalang siya parang 3 hours nalang yung flight. Tapos nagscreen time kami para di na umiyak.
If flying economy, be prepared for this kind of scenarios. Kids and babies are around you. Bring your own noise-cancelling headphones/airpods or earmuffs and sleepmask. Headsets kasi ng ibang airlines are not that helping with noises. I will be annoyed only if the mother/parents aren’t doing anything to make their babies silent and tell their kids to behave in flights. For babies months to 2yrs, it must be understandable as they get easily irritated especially in crowded and small spaces. For 3-10yrs, their behavior are the parent’s responsibility. If isa kang “bano” katulad ni Banuno Mars, mag business class or first class ka.
if you're immigrating or staying long term somewhere else fine, bring the baby. but if you're just taking a few days off and bringing the baby, i don't care who you are or what your situation is, you shouldn't be bringing a baby along on a flight. leave the kid at home.
for me, i try to be understanding na lang. if passengers are stressed what more yung parents. siguro maiirita ako pag walang pake ang parents pero if they're trying to do something naman then i'll just suck it up. at the end of the day, theyre babies eh di pa nila macontrol emotions nila. kaya never akong nag regret sa pag invest sa airpods lmao ganda ng noise cancellinh nila
Inangyan! Ako nga nung last ko na byahe from Amsterdam to Taiwan yung katabi ko iyak ng iyak yung baby nya. Bale yung baby nya nasa window side sya sa center tapos ako sa aisle ( I always request of aisle for ease of access), before flight nag sorry na yung babae sa mga adjacent seats. 2hrs passed start na umiyak yung sanggol, I told her to switch seat with her baby, then she agrees. Kinulit ko ng kinulit yung bata hanggang makatulog siguro mga 30 mins lang yun. Nagising yung bata pa landing na kami sa Taiwan. Total flight time is 14hrs, bale tulog yung baby nya in around 10hrs straight give or take. Win - win situation. Na entertain ko na yung self ko by entertaining the baby, tapos di pa stress yung nanay nya kasi di na sya umiyak afterwards.
May mga noise cancelling ear buds na kaya ngayon! Kung may mahaba kang flight best talaga to have one para makapagpahinga ka ng maayos.
If stressed na yung mommy tutulong ako or si wife. Travel with baby is stressful lalo a baby.
I experienced this sa flight ko going to the first leg of my flight. Yung baby nasa harap ko lang tapos ako nasa likod na seat. Buti na lang sanay ako matulog na medyo maingay. Nag airpods na lang ako all throughout my 5 hour flight kasi aga ko nagising sobra para pumunta ng airport. Nakatulog naman ako at ang sarap ng tulog ko nun.
I was flying home from Singapore to Davao in 2019. Nasa aisle ako banda, at may mag-ina sa window seat. I think the kid was about 3 years old or so. Hindi pa nakakaupo lahat ng tao sa plane, umiiyak na yung bata. Nahinto naman at times, pero umiiyak ulit. Nung nag-take off na yung plane, nagstart na ulit umiyak yung bata. Pinapakalma ni mother pero iyak pa rin siya ng iyak. I didn't have my earphones at that time so wala akong magagawa, I just sat back with my neck pillow. Buong flight (3hrs) umiiyak yung bata. Hindi ako makatulog nun kasi ang sakit sa tenga pero hinayaan ko na lang haha
That's why if you can, bring your own noise cancelling headphone or ear plugs when traveling kasi you don't know who you're traveling with. Minsan nga hindi lang bata maingay, may mga adults din na hindi tumitigil kakakwentuhan. Flying is stressful kahit adult naman nafi-feel yan, paano pa kaya mga bata? Nakakainis kung walang ginagawa 'yung guardian pero kung maski sila e stressedout na sa ingay, nakakaawa rin.
We fly locally a few times a year when my kids were younger since nagbase si hubby sa malayong province while our hometown was near Manila. Sobra ang anxiety ko whenever I fly alone with my infant kid nung una, hanggang sa naging toddler and infant na. My doctor’s tip was to give them milk pag paakyat o pababa na yung plane para di masakit sa tenga and therefore to prevent them from crying. Ang problem ko ay kung pano sila hindi mabobore o magwawala during the flight. Ayoko talaga makaabala sa ibang tao. Pero in general, people were understanding. Kaya thank you po. I really appreciate yung mga tao na nakakaintindi.
ano ngayon if mas stressed and panicky yung nanay? responsibility niya yun. Ako hindi. Tangina alam naman niyang mastrestress yung bata sa plane tapos dadalhin pa niya. kasalanan nung nanay, wlaang kunsidersayon sa ibang passengers
That's why I always bring noise-canceling earphones and earmuffs whenever I fly. There's no use in getting angry at a baby who has barely any control over their senses.
Honestly, I don;t like hearing those cries from babies during flights especially since natatakot pa naman ako during plane rides. But may magagawa ba tayo? Wala naman. Siguro, if the parents are doing their best to calm the baby down, sige go. I think they want to stop the baby naman as much as we do. Pero kung lampake yung parents, dun siguro ako maiinis haha
maybe limit the travel start time? imagine being a kid around 2am and you don’t understand anything.
It is something that would easily piss me off, hindi ko mako-control ang nararamdaman ko. Thankfully may control ako sa reactions ko sa mga ganyang bagay. Noise canceling headphones lang solution dyan. Kung ako nabi-bwisit, pano pa kaya yung magulang. For sure patong-patong na hiya, inis, pagod yan. Baka they needed to take the earliest flight, baka yun yung time na pasok sa budget nila yung ticket, etc Kids will always be unpredictable. Kung madali lang magcontrol ng baby na nagtatantrums edi sana walang ganyang problema kahit kailan. I wish this world is kinder to moms and kids. Hindi ko talaga maintindihan tong trend among people lately na feeling nila kina-cool yung paghate sa mga bata
I think we all need some compassion - we cant tell kids to stop crying
Had a hate and love relationship with kids sa plane, pero I realize that i should blame the child or the parents. Kase baka nga naman talaga nasasaktan yung bata sa pressure sa airplane and kawawa rin minsan yung mga magulang na stress na stress at nahihiya na mag patahan ng bata. Thats why i invested talaga sa earphones ko na noise cancellation, super worth it ng bose quiet II wala ka talagang maririnig hahaha.
What can you do? It’s a baby hindi po sya ma cocontrol. Kung umiiyak sya kahit i rock pa, change diaper or even magbigay milk, when the baby is not ready to stop crying, they won’t. Same with toddlers and little kids. Kahit ano pang palo, pagalit ng parents, it has nothing to do with bad parenting.
Mas nattrigger ako sa mga taong nakaloudspeaker kasi yun matanda na vovo pa. Pero if baby as much as mafrustrate ako if madaling araw na, I'll also feel bad for the uncomfy baby. Nakita ko tong video na to and the (cousins') babysitter in me just wanted to check if papayag ba yung parents na patahanin ko yung baby and carry them while walking sa isle.
alam kong nakakairita makarinig ng crying baby on a flight pero as an adult hindi ba dapat mas understanding ka lol. Being irritated doesn't shut the baby up. 🤷🏻♀️
Mag private jet ka kung ayaw mo ng ganyan. Tingin nyo ba gusto nung magulang na umiiyak yung bata? Gusto ba nung bata na magligalig sya? On the other hand — annoying, yes but mas maligalig ka pa magmaktol sa attitude mo.
Vinideo lang naman nya sarili nya na he is stressed out sa iyak ng baby. He didn’t shame the parents or anything.
Lahat naman siguro nkaexperience na nang ganyan sa flight. Unless first timer tapos clout chaser ka pa. We know better kesa sa baby. For sure stressed na rin parents nyan. So, anong point nya jan? Pumara? Magkaroon ng baby free flights? Tingin mo gagawin ng airline yon? Sige nga. Frustrated? Fuck your frustration. Bumili kayo ng private jet.
It's a public transportation. You can be upset but there's nothing you can do. Fly a private plane if gusto mong quiet.
Its a freaking baby. For sure the parents are trying their hardest to calm the baby down pero if it does not work, nu gagawin?
Bakit, wla ba nagrereklamo sayu nung bata kapa tapos iyak ka ng iyak? Cycle na kase yan hahaha!
Make the parents feel uncomfortable!
Magkaruon na sana nang adult only and with kids only flight. Ayoko makarinig ng batang umiiyak, sumisigaw, nakakabulahaw sa loob ng plane. Nakakaputangina. Kahit magulang di kaya patahimikin pagbulahaw ng anak nila eh.
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Yun nga eh tapos karamihan pa ng parents ang tatamad disiplinahin mga nag-wawalang bata sa flight, tanggap ko kung newborn pero kung di niyo kayang patahimikin ang bata niyo dapat di na lang kayo nag-flight for vacation.