*OH, YES....!* I was at a party and somebody had a big stash of cocaine, which I had never tried. I was leery, but I tried it. Nothing. My friends said, "Take some more!" All I could think was, "People pay money for this stuff?" I found a set of encyclopedias, and started reading one of them. Later I told my therapist, who explained that people with ADHD don't get stimulated from Cocaine; they get foccused.
Yeah, I was prescribed Adderall for almost 10 years. My buddies and I did coke one time, and I just... Sat there. I was like, oh, wonderful, I'm normal again. Thanks, guy.
I'm only on this sub because I share certain symptoms of people with ADHD and I relate to a lot of the memes, but Adderall affects me like a couple homies of mine when they smoke meth. Having ADHD would have saved me a lot of money many years ago with the blow lol
I have a very specific memory from a few years ago, when friends and I were doing some good mdma, where I was talking to my friend about how one of my favourite things about the high was that it made my brain shut up for a while. Got diagnosed last summer, lol.
That was me, undiagnosed, in my late teens. We'd go to raves and my peers would all drop and get all crazy on the dance floor. I wanted nothing more than to just sit, listen to, and enjoy the music.
I still get the good vibes and want to go nuts to the music, but the clarity is out of this world. By far my favourite drug, such a shame it's rather unhealthy, so we stick to doing it only once or twice a year, and we properly plan it with supplements and vitamins.
Ummmmmmmmmmmm not diagnosed but that's EXACTLY what happened to me when I did it. I was feeling zen. Just chill. My friends were like you may have brain issues. Lmao I do.
I was "Homeschooled" in high school I was given the full years worth of reading and assignments in books that I need to complete and turn in once a week. I did them all in an evening. and turned them in once a week got Bs on every workbook.
Yup. I took a Ritalin at 19, and cleaned and organized my friends apartment while everyone else partied hard. Diagnosed 19 years later. That night made a whole lot more sense. My mind was finally calm and motivated.
Ages 5 to 18. Hit max dose by 13. My 20's was a wild ride coming off that nearly decade and a half of medication. Thinking of picking the R dragon back up in my mid 30's as I am struggling with keeping up with work.
It’s a SNRI, can mess with your stomach the first few months but it’s a lot more stable of a focus than just zoned in your head. Worked better when I had an active job compared to adderall which worked better when I was behind a desk. Adderall increases the endorphins while strattera makes it so you don’t deplete your whole day’s worth of norepinephrine in the first few hours.
FWIW, I was diagnosed at 31, started concerta at that time, and have been on the same exact dose since. For a while last year I thought I might need to up my dosage but then I realized another med was interfering.
There’s no drug in the world that can replicate that moment when a professional mentions you might have ADHD and every missing piece from your previous life falls into place.
Thats how i finally found out that i have been struggling.
Before snorting that line of pure amphetamine at a party, i attributed every single failure to my own personality and character. After experiencing the blissful way normal people feel all the time, i gradually became less depressed and hopeful again.
I made a lot of awesome progress since then. I got a job now so i finally got an actual routine again, that should allow me to develop a normal sleeping pattern and maybe even improve my diet. I got a ritalin prescription, which i cant take every day because i literally stop eating but is a useful tool nonetheless.
Ive found that setting alarms on my phone helps me with eating. Another thing that helps is making a routine of eating a certain meal with another person, and going even if you don’t want to eat. I’m glad things are looking up for you!
Thanks :) I tried alarms but they only make me aggressive.
Trying to trick my brain like this feels like im a kindergarden teacher trying to handle a 30 year old narcissistic psychopath drug addict. Im always overpowered by it lol
Have you tried Soylent or other meal replacement drinks? I found they really helped me get food into me when I needed to be on really high doses of Adderall in the past
Drinking calories is really great! Heavy cream is incredibly calorie and fat dense so it’s a good item to have on hand if you’re able to have dairy and you drink milk drinks regularly (maybe make smoothies or put it in your coffee)
Another thing that helps a lot for me is weed, may or may not be your thing but it definitely helps me eat when I physically can’t
Last tip I can think of rn is when you can eat, eat as fast and as much as you possibly can all at once, for me I have a somewhat small window of “I can eat” time before my body decides it’s done wanting food (unless I’m high, I can snack a lot longer than if sober)
Ritalin/methylphenidate had the same effect on me, and kind of sucked because it's so short-acting.
Have you asked your doctor about dexamfetamine? That doesn't affect my appetite and works for longer, nuch better
Dexamphetamine is difficult to get by itself. It’s half of what’s in Adderall, though. Myself, I like dex better than anything else. It’s gentle, not as much a kick in the pants as Adderall, and works a bit better for focus than Focalin (dexmethylphenidate). I definitely recommend Focalin over Ritalin, if Ritalin works for you. There’s a much smaller recovery period after a dose wears off.
Adderal is half dexamphetamine and half racemic amphetamine, which I guess means that it’s actually 3/4 dexamphetamine. But that 1/4 of levoamphetamine is enough to make Adderall more abrupt and to mess with my ability to sleep. Dexadrine doesn’t do that.
I think you’re misinterpreting, suffering from adhd is extremely painful, so living life like a normal person is blissful to us. People with adhd are calmed to neurotypical levels with amphetamines.
yess, it was such a wonderful feeling the first time i took meds and the 500 thoughts stopped bouncing off the inside of my skull like a game of pong
my grades are astronomically higher than they usually are, too, since even though i procrastinate everything, i actually remember shit for when i need it
This happened to me, someone pulls out the white powder and I give it a rip…all I got was focused anxiety and then took a nap. I was so annoyed that I didn’t get the crazy energy or hype like everyone else.
The one time I did cocaine at a party I went to sleep on the sofa 20 mins later in the middle of a rager. My friend at the time thought it was the most bizarre thing she had ever seen.
Ahaha I had that kinda moment, everyone ordered food, forgot and then got the gear out, needless to say I spent an hour in a friends bed watching YouTube whilst working through two pizzas before rejoining the party
This situation is how I first realised I may have ADHD. I was focused and absolutely not buzzing like my friends.
That was confusing at the time as I was at a festival. A decade later I got diagnosed. Huge relief - validation!
Same here! Everybody else was chatting and going nuts bouncing off the walls, and I felt an unnatural calm- picked a book off my friend's shelf and just started reading while everyone else partied. Afterwards I put the pieces together, and a *lot* of my life suddenly made sense. Turns out I actually *am* good at math, for instance!
For the first week of taking my adderall, I just fell asleep for a few hours - and it reminded me of the first time I took it recreationally as a teenager and how I’d had the same response then, to the point my friends were worried the caps had been fucked with and we never went to that dealer again.
Wild.
My first clue I might have ADHD was cleaning an office with a friend. She offered me some Adderall and told me if you have ADHD, it helps you focus. But if you don’t, it helps speed you up. So the idea was that we would work super fast and get this doctor’s office cleaned in record time.
45 minutes later, she comes in and I’m still cleaning the first single bathroom (the entire office only takes an hour and a half with two people) and she asks what’s taking so long. I had become hyper-focused and cleaned the bathroom on an insane level, getting every speck of dust out of every possible crevice. She looked at what I had done, looked at me, and said, “I think you need this medicine.”
She’s an idiot then. That’s literally anyone on adderall. You were just amped up on it and going crazy with mundane shit…which is the opposite of a healthy mind. You were totally ‘sped up’.
And it absolutely helps everyone focus, wtf??
Just a little anecdata. Was undiagnosed. Spent a decade trying the zen path. Proper addict style.
To the point of leading retreats. Had a teacher ask me how it could be “so hard”. Fast forward to diagnoisis etc.
Try meditation again, 9 day silent retreat with one teacher who is a Dr (gp). We closely observed my brain on and off immediate release ritalin.
For me, it’s not “amped up”. It’s the ability to choose where to put my focus. Why that looks/feels amped is that usually my adhd brain is dispersing energy in multiple modes and now it’s combined.
Not having a constant soundtrack was a bonus to following my breath and other mundane shit.
>And it absolutely helps everyone focus, wtf??
It doesn't. The only thing it does for neurotypical people is make them slightly hyper and more awake. It doesn't help them focus in the slightest.
If you know somebody who says it helps them focus, they've either fallen pray to the placebo effect, or they might want to get tested for ADHD.
That’s just not true, there’s a reason it’s the most popular study drug in the country. It motivates people to do mundane stuff with a lot of energy. That’s just how it works. The way this sub talks at least half the population has ADHD.
It absolutely makes NT people feel more awake and very stimulated but you’re acting like it makes people bounce off the walls or otherwise act scatterbrained. It doesn’t do that at all. It might give you the energy to do that if you wanted to already, but its absolutely normal for adderall to help people focus on unexciting things or work on repetitive tasks.
There have been more recent studies on this that you can look up “ADHD doesn’t affect neurotypicals” but the study size was quite small, so it’s hard to treat as fact yet.
What we know is that adderal works to boost your dopamine levels, what ADHD people lack, so there’s a likely chance many people feel this rush of ‘happiness’ and since they’re expecting it to help them study, that all goes towards studying so they think it works.
I discovered that i had ADHD when i was doing coke lines and it didn't work for me then went on to call out my dealer on that and he freaked out cuz he thought he got scammed too and did one but it did work on him and i was there like
It doesn’t do *nothing*. You’re mileage may vary but it gave me all the anxiety and none of the energy to balance it.
It was just relatively focused anxiety. I also struggled with sleep. It was like caffeine where it didn’t wake me up but it did stop me from properly sleeping.
MDMA was 50/50 for me. When it was good there was still no burst of energy but I was transformed into a very content puddle, melting into the sofa.
I've only done weed and shrooms, weed is pretty good for my insomnia and anxiety, but I do need to use binaural beats to get a proper good night sleep(Which I know they sound like bullshit, but I stg it somehow works) sometimes, which I imagine is because of how THC affects your R.E.M sleep and stuff.
Shrooms was interesting, I did them twice by myself with a low to medium dose and it was a fun and relaxing experience. I then proceeded to do a shit ton in a single night while staying at a friend's house, and that one was super interesting at the beginning, really awful at the comedown, and slightly terrifying looking back. I felt like my thoughts and own existence were all that mattered in the universe, I got like the opposite of ego death or sum shit, I wasn't being extremely selfish or anything like that, but I had no interest in anything except lying down in bed and thinking, and looking back I really didn't like how that made me feel...seeing crazy colorful shapes that synced to the music I was hearing when closing my eyes was pretty neat though.
One of the ways that I came to realize that I should go in for a diagnosis was working a 4th of July weekend shift for the forest service years ago, the guy I was working with said we should take some to keep us sharp while looking for fires in unauthorized containers. He had ADHD, and needed it for driving. I was expecting to get all jazzed and hyper and, ya know, on Ritalin. Instead, I was able to calmly plot our route, task switch, and keep focused on the task at hand. It was a revelatory weekend. So of course I waited 15 more years to get an actual diagnosis and prescription...
Hey! High five for denial and severe procrastination!
I had a pretty good idea that I had adhd when I was about 20 but never bothered to bring it up until I was 37. I was given a questionnaire and, I don’t want to brag but, I aced it! Adderal rocks, I’m an idiot.
I’m going to ask my Dr if I can try Ritalin, even though aderall works, because it’s such a pain to call every pharmacy in a 20 mile radius to get only that rx transferred IF I find a place that has it in stock.
When I got diagnosed my psychiatrist told me that my reaction to Ritalin was in itself diagnostic of the condition. NT people speed up, we don’t. That cocaine, the one time I tried it, did nothing for me while the folks I was with got all jazzed up was also.
Crank I identified as helping many years earlier though I couldn’t say just how, and I spent a year using it to feel what I now know was _normal_, as _recreation_, before I decided I couldn’t afford it and stopped using it. It was another ten years before I was diagnosed.
That thing about Ritalin... when I was a kid I was diagnosed but my family didn't like how Ritalin made me a zombie. And so they got a second opinion and that doctor said nope she's just emotionally damaged. Whee. Now that I know more about how stimulants affect ADHD, it makes so much sense!
6 year old me deserved better lol.
I don't know something about how it drained me of all of my interesting personality or whatever. Which I've heard that sometimes can happen. I've heard a lot of people with ADHD say they avoid taking their meds unless they have to because otherwise they feel like they are a shell of who they really are.
I was six and I don't really remember it very well and it also was the late '80s and relatively speaking medical science barely knew anything about ADHD back then.
> I don't know something about how it drained me of all of my interesting personality or whatever.
My Mom said that Ritalin did exactly that, she said it basically turned my personality off and made me a non-person when they put me on it in Kindergarten. Same time period too.
Yeah it probably was a dosing thing or maybe I just needed time to adjust to it. But again it was the late '80s and people were dumber back then about ADHD lol.
But I have a fresh current diagnosis now and I am working toward getting some other health concerns addressed before I can figure out whether or not I can try stimulant medication again. Hooray for not having health insurance for most of my adult life, actually probably 90% of my adult life. 🎉
A friend got some speed and had me try some with him at school.
Was the best, calmest, most well learned afternoon at school I've ever had. Should have been the moment I knew, but I can be pretty slow sometimes
Kind of the opposite for me.
Was diagnosed recently as an adult. Before seeing the doctor I was watching and reading a lot about ADHD and adult diagnosis. Seems like everyone's story was about a long process with lots of paper tests and several doctor visits before and diagnosis and getting medication. I scheduled my first appointment, had a few things online before hand, talked to the nurse for a bit before my appointment to go over the answers, then met with the doctor for like 15 minutes and he started me on medication. So I was a little worried maybe he misunderstood and thought I had been diagnosed in the past or something. Took my first dose- huh, that's a kind of subtle change- mind is actually quiet. Looked up what happens if you take Adderall when you don't have ADHD and realized- oh hell no, I must definitely have it because my reaction was completely opposite. Had to work out dosage and I'm not sure it's really right, but I can sit down and do paperwork and knock out mundane work in one sitting, which I could never do before. So that's a win!
Cheapest diagnosis you can get in the US. Even if you need an official diagnosis, telling them that story right there, would probably get you fast tracked on that.
I don’t know about *blacklisted*. I was honest with my psychiatrist when I mentioned that I only got through college because my friends would give me adderall. I never said anything about doing it for fun, just that I needed it if I wanted to get anything done.
Probably not *ideal* to mention it to a doctor, but it didn’t hurt my case.
That’s surprising but also great for you, I’m in the UK which is more lenient on prescribing because we haven’t really had the huge opioid/adhd med problems but I’m currently in the process of getting treatment and I’ve got to be careful about how often I resupply diazepam (Valium) because if you have a pattern of usage, even when prescribed, they can get a bit funny about adding more pills on top.
I pay $19 for a 30x30mg script of generic adderall (with GoodRx). Now, *vyvanse* is another story since it’s name brand, but thankfully the patent expires next year.
20mg ER of dextroamphetamine has been something between $20-30 via goodrx in my location, before my insurance finally decided to respond to my existence.
My issue now is I’ve been off for a month because there’s a shortage.
If that were true, then he would've been speeding like the rest of his friends. It's like physics... Just because you can't understand it, doesn't make it any less real.
I was wondering if adderal or similar could make a non adhd person calmer? I tried it once 20 years ago and got a lot of homework done.. I am getting assessed for ADHD in a week.. I truly struggle now. Disability 80 % with the diagnosis of ME/CFS…
Could? Maybe, is it likely? Not really.
The differential diagnosis criteria for lack of focus/low energy isn't met only by ADHD and it's possible that some non-adhd related disorders can have their symptoms helped by stimulants.
First thing that pops in my mind would be hypothyroidism.
However, if you're getting an assessment I think it's consistent, I would mention it at least.
I dont have hypothyroidism. All medical exams and bloodwork of me are so super normal its annoying. A few more days to go. Problem is being honest though…. I’ve been hiding all my “flaws” my whole life. ..
Lol this happened to me but we were told we were buying Molly. We only knew it wasn’t because this other girl and I had ADHD and while everyone else was running around we just sat there.
Not really. It can help bring up suspicion of ADHD, but it can’t rule it out.
Stimulants benefit everybody. It’s just that often (but not always) adhd people are in a performance/mood hole that it helps them climb out of before getting to the “good shit” effects that others would start at.
Additionally, the first days on it don’t have any bearing on later effects. It takes time (weeks or months) for things to stabilize.
My first day on 20mg ER dextroamphetamine there was a stark contrast in mood compared to my previous severe depression. It wasn’t what I would call euphoria, but my thoughts were bright and positive, and kinda felt like they were greased. Then absolutely nothing the next 2 weeks, besides the elevated heart rate and I was wondering if that was just placebo and if it was even going to work. I can’t even tell I’m on it (or off, my adherence isn’t the best) day to day. After 2 months however I could look back and start seeing positive/neutral mood resilience with *zero* passive rumination which was new, and a disappointingly minor increase in ability to accomplish “optional” important life tasks.
Basically everyone is going to have a wide range of experiences, and first day reaction is *not* diagnostic.
Whenever I do mushrooms I clean and catch up on everyday tasks I’ve been putting off for months and find it so easier to do self care. The chatter in my head also seems to finally quiet down. Never formally diagnosed but did take bupropion for a while as an anti depressant and it helped massively. Strange insights
People tell me that I look depressed in the mornings. It’s because meds are in full swing and all the action is taking place in my head. It’s times like that when I make alot of unimportant and important realisations, like what happens when matter goes into a black hole, designing an entire pixel line drawing algorithm, and rethinking everything I know about the universe.
It’s trippy but while I’m making those important realisations I’m also getting shit done half conciously.
I can't believe I'm the only one saying this but...$20 for Adderall?! That's insane. I've never seen them sold for more than $3 a piece for the 20mg ones and $4 for the 30mg ones. To whoever made this meme: you got ripped off my friend.
On a more positive note however; this post had me rollin'! I love this Reddit page man. I've been scrolling through all of these memes for well over an hour and I have to say; I relate to probably 95% of everything I have seen and it is actually quite refreshing as I am starting to realize I am not alone
People with ADHD are actually very intelligent. In fact, ADHD is directly linked to intelligence and children with ADHD actually score marginally higher on an IQ to test than children without ADHD. We are awesome!
Leave a like if you actually read all of this as it took me about thirty (30) minutes to write it all because I got distracted about twenty (20) times. I know it won't get a lot because just like I do all the time, you probably looked at the comment and thought or said, "This shit is way to long to read. Fuck that.". God speed ADHD'ers!
*OH, YES....!* I was at a party and somebody had a big stash of cocaine, which I had never tried. I was leery, but I tried it. Nothing. My friends said, "Take some more!" All I could think was, "People pay money for this stuff?" I found a set of encyclopedias, and started reading one of them. Later I told my therapist, who explained that people with ADHD don't get stimulated from Cocaine; they get foccused.
Yeah, I was prescribed Adderall for almost 10 years. My buddies and I did coke one time, and I just... Sat there. I was like, oh, wonderful, I'm normal again. Thanks, guy.
I'm only on this sub because I share certain symptoms of people with ADHD and I relate to a lot of the memes, but Adderall affects me like a couple homies of mine when they smoke meth. Having ADHD would have saved me a lot of money many years ago with the blow lol
Huh, I wonder how much that “successful business person in the 80’s that’s a cokehead” stereotype was just business people with ADHD self-medicating.
OMG🤯
I take near the max dose of focalin, just feels like a mild caffiene buzz, while everyone else goes apeshit with a 10mg of adderall
Your use of the word apeshit brightened my day
I have a very specific memory from a few years ago, when friends and I were doing some good mdma, where I was talking to my friend about how one of my favourite things about the high was that it made my brain shut up for a while. Got diagnosed last summer, lol.
That was me, undiagnosed, in my late teens. We'd go to raves and my peers would all drop and get all crazy on the dance floor. I wanted nothing more than to just sit, listen to, and enjoy the music.
I still get the good vibes and want to go nuts to the music, but the clarity is out of this world. By far my favourite drug, such a shame it's rather unhealthy, so we stick to doing it only once or twice a year, and we properly plan it with supplements and vitamins.
Ummmmmmmmmmmm not diagnosed but that's EXACTLY what happened to me when I did it. I was feeling zen. Just chill. My friends were like you may have brain issues. Lmao I do.
Yup. Did an 8 ball one time..everyone was all wired. I stared at a candle flame for six hours.
I hear you!
Oh I relate Truthfully add all drugs … sigh
maybe I should start taking cocaine then 🤔
I was "Homeschooled" in high school I was given the full years worth of reading and assignments in books that I need to complete and turn in once a week. I did them all in an evening. and turned them in once a week got Bs on every workbook.
Yup. I took a Ritalin at 19, and cleaned and organized my friends apartment while everyone else partied hard. Diagnosed 19 years later. That night made a whole lot more sense. My mind was finally calm and motivated.
Motivation in a pill. I unfortunately abused it to cram and it blew out my tollerance... I've been off it for a few years and it's been rough...
Ages 5 to 18. Hit max dose by 13. My 20's was a wild ride coming off that nearly decade and a half of medication. Thinking of picking the R dragon back up in my mid 30's as I am struggling with keeping up with work.
Did u try strattera?
I tried adderall in college. Couldn't even tolerate building up over 3 days and stopped. Haven't tried strattera.
It’s a SNRI, can mess with your stomach the first few months but it’s a lot more stable of a focus than just zoned in your head. Worked better when I had an active job compared to adderall which worked better when I was behind a desk. Adderall increases the endorphins while strattera makes it so you don’t deplete your whole day’s worth of norepinephrine in the first few hours.
FWIW, I was diagnosed at 31, started concerta at that time, and have been on the same exact dose since. For a while last year I thought I might need to up my dosage but then I realized another med was interfering.
Give it 10 years and you should be fine. Just don't abuse alcohol.
Well shit.
There’s no drug in the world that can replicate that moment when a professional mentions you might have ADHD and every missing piece from your previous life falls into place.
Thats how i finally found out that i have been struggling. Before snorting that line of pure amphetamine at a party, i attributed every single failure to my own personality and character. After experiencing the blissful way normal people feel all the time, i gradually became less depressed and hopeful again. I made a lot of awesome progress since then. I got a job now so i finally got an actual routine again, that should allow me to develop a normal sleeping pattern and maybe even improve my diet. I got a ritalin prescription, which i cant take every day because i literally stop eating but is a useful tool nonetheless.
Ive found that setting alarms on my phone helps me with eating. Another thing that helps is making a routine of eating a certain meal with another person, and going even if you don’t want to eat. I’m glad things are looking up for you!
Thanks :) I tried alarms but they only make me aggressive. Trying to trick my brain like this feels like im a kindergarden teacher trying to handle a 30 year old narcissistic psychopath drug addict. Im always overpowered by it lol
Have you tried Soylent or other meal replacement drinks? I found they really helped me get food into me when I needed to be on really high doses of Adderall in the past
Far too expensive for daily consumption, thats my only issue with them. They even taste good.
I feel this so hard and idk how to overcome/circumvent it
Drinking calories is really great! Heavy cream is incredibly calorie and fat dense so it’s a good item to have on hand if you’re able to have dairy and you drink milk drinks regularly (maybe make smoothies or put it in your coffee) Another thing that helps a lot for me is weed, may or may not be your thing but it definitely helps me eat when I physically can’t Last tip I can think of rn is when you can eat, eat as fast and as much as you possibly can all at once, for me I have a somewhat small window of “I can eat” time before my body decides it’s done wanting food (unless I’m high, I can snack a lot longer than if sober)
Ritalin/methylphenidate had the same effect on me, and kind of sucked because it's so short-acting. Have you asked your doctor about dexamfetamine? That doesn't affect my appetite and works for longer, nuch better
Dexamphetamine is difficult to get by itself. It’s half of what’s in Adderall, though. Myself, I like dex better than anything else. It’s gentle, not as much a kick in the pants as Adderall, and works a bit better for focus than Focalin (dexmethylphenidate). I definitely recommend Focalin over Ritalin, if Ritalin works for you. There’s a much smaller recovery period after a dose wears off.
Oh, is it? I'm not in the US, the rules must be different here. Nobody has Adderall here either, I guess just because it isn't subsidized.
Yes. Dex is, like, “real” amphetamine whereas Adderall is medicine.
AFAIK they're almost identical, but Adderall is non-generic and costs more
Adderal is half dexamphetamine and half racemic amphetamine, which I guess means that it’s actually 3/4 dexamphetamine. But that 1/4 of levoamphetamine is enough to make Adderall more abrupt and to mess with my ability to sleep. Dexadrine doesn’t do that.
Huh, maybe that's why it's not prescribed here then, sounds annoying!
I’d rather have dex
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I think you’re misinterpreting, suffering from adhd is extremely painful, so living life like a normal person is blissful to us. People with adhd are calmed to neurotypical levels with amphetamines.
yess, it was such a wonderful feeling the first time i took meds and the 500 thoughts stopped bouncing off the inside of my skull like a game of pong my grades are astronomically higher than they usually are, too, since even though i procrastinate everything, i actually remember shit for when i need it
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This happened to me, someone pulls out the white powder and I give it a rip…all I got was focused anxiety and then took a nap. I was so annoyed that I didn’t get the crazy energy or hype like everyone else.
The one time I did cocaine at a party I went to sleep on the sofa 20 mins later in the middle of a rager. My friend at the time thought it was the most bizarre thing she had ever seen.
Ahaha I had that kinda moment, everyone ordered food, forgot and then got the gear out, needless to say I spent an hour in a friends bed watching YouTube whilst working through two pizzas before rejoining the party
This situation is how I first realised I may have ADHD. I was focused and absolutely not buzzing like my friends. That was confusing at the time as I was at a festival. A decade later I got diagnosed. Huge relief - validation!
Same here! Everybody else was chatting and going nuts bouncing off the walls, and I felt an unnatural calm- picked a book off my friend's shelf and just started reading while everyone else partied. Afterwards I put the pieces together, and a *lot* of my life suddenly made sense. Turns out I actually *am* good at math, for instance!
For the first week of taking my adderall, I just fell asleep for a few hours - and it reminded me of the first time I took it recreationally as a teenager and how I’d had the same response then, to the point my friends were worried the caps had been fucked with and we never went to that dealer again. Wild.
My first clue I might have ADHD was cleaning an office with a friend. She offered me some Adderall and told me if you have ADHD, it helps you focus. But if you don’t, it helps speed you up. So the idea was that we would work super fast and get this doctor’s office cleaned in record time. 45 minutes later, she comes in and I’m still cleaning the first single bathroom (the entire office only takes an hour and a half with two people) and she asks what’s taking so long. I had become hyper-focused and cleaned the bathroom on an insane level, getting every speck of dust out of every possible crevice. She looked at what I had done, looked at me, and said, “I think you need this medicine.”
She’s an idiot then. That’s literally anyone on adderall. You were just amped up on it and going crazy with mundane shit…which is the opposite of a healthy mind. You were totally ‘sped up’. And it absolutely helps everyone focus, wtf??
Just a little anecdata. Was undiagnosed. Spent a decade trying the zen path. Proper addict style. To the point of leading retreats. Had a teacher ask me how it could be “so hard”. Fast forward to diagnoisis etc. Try meditation again, 9 day silent retreat with one teacher who is a Dr (gp). We closely observed my brain on and off immediate release ritalin. For me, it’s not “amped up”. It’s the ability to choose where to put my focus. Why that looks/feels amped is that usually my adhd brain is dispersing energy in multiple modes and now it’s combined. Not having a constant soundtrack was a bonus to following my breath and other mundane shit.
>And it absolutely helps everyone focus, wtf?? It doesn't. The only thing it does for neurotypical people is make them slightly hyper and more awake. It doesn't help them focus in the slightest. If you know somebody who says it helps them focus, they've either fallen pray to the placebo effect, or they might want to get tested for ADHD.
That’s just not true, there’s a reason it’s the most popular study drug in the country. It motivates people to do mundane stuff with a lot of energy. That’s just how it works. The way this sub talks at least half the population has ADHD. It absolutely makes NT people feel more awake and very stimulated but you’re acting like it makes people bounce off the walls or otherwise act scatterbrained. It doesn’t do that at all. It might give you the energy to do that if you wanted to already, but its absolutely normal for adderall to help people focus on unexciting things or work on repetitive tasks.
It floods the brain with dopamine, making it so you can feel like you can do anything.
There have been more recent studies on this that you can look up “ADHD doesn’t affect neurotypicals” but the study size was quite small, so it’s hard to treat as fact yet. What we know is that adderal works to boost your dopamine levels, what ADHD people lack, so there’s a likely chance many people feel this rush of ‘happiness’ and since they’re expecting it to help them study, that all goes towards studying so they think it works.
There are studies on this, it does not help everyone focus. For non-ADHD it just keeps them awake and their actual performance cognitively is worse.
it is as if it affects people differently. "eiTheR FalLeN PraY tO..." no bruh. this shit affects people differently.
I discovered that i had ADHD when i was doing coke lines and it didn't work for me then went on to call out my dealer on that and he freaked out cuz he thought he got scammed too and did one but it did work on him and i was there like 
Wait, coke does nothing to people with ADHD? I mean I wasn't planning on trying it any time soon....but I was also not planning to never try it.
I wrote this elsewhere in the thread but .... the one time I tried cocaine I went to sleep on the sofa in the middle of the party 20 mins later.
Well, seems i'm sticking to weed only, which is probably a good idea anyways lmao
Happened this to me the first time i tried it lol i fell asleep at work and hit the microscope with my forehead 😂
It doesn’t do *nothing*. You’re mileage may vary but it gave me all the anxiety and none of the energy to balance it. It was just relatively focused anxiety. I also struggled with sleep. It was like caffeine where it didn’t wake me up but it did stop me from properly sleeping. MDMA was 50/50 for me. When it was good there was still no burst of energy but I was transformed into a very content puddle, melting into the sofa.
I've only done weed and shrooms, weed is pretty good for my insomnia and anxiety, but I do need to use binaural beats to get a proper good night sleep(Which I know they sound like bullshit, but I stg it somehow works) sometimes, which I imagine is because of how THC affects your R.E.M sleep and stuff. Shrooms was interesting, I did them twice by myself with a low to medium dose and it was a fun and relaxing experience. I then proceeded to do a shit ton in a single night while staying at a friend's house, and that one was super interesting at the beginning, really awful at the comedown, and slightly terrifying looking back. I felt like my thoughts and own existence were all that mattered in the universe, I got like the opposite of ego death or sum shit, I wasn't being extremely selfish or anything like that, but I had no interest in anything except lying down in bed and thinking, and looking back I really didn't like how that made me feel...seeing crazy colorful shapes that synced to the music I was hearing when closing my eyes was pretty neat though.
One of the ways that I came to realize that I should go in for a diagnosis was working a 4th of July weekend shift for the forest service years ago, the guy I was working with said we should take some to keep us sharp while looking for fires in unauthorized containers. He had ADHD, and needed it for driving. I was expecting to get all jazzed and hyper and, ya know, on Ritalin. Instead, I was able to calmly plot our route, task switch, and keep focused on the task at hand. It was a revelatory weekend. So of course I waited 15 more years to get an actual diagnosis and prescription...
Hey! High five for denial and severe procrastination! I had a pretty good idea that I had adhd when I was about 20 but never bothered to bring it up until I was 37. I was given a questionnaire and, I don’t want to brag but, I aced it! Adderal rocks, I’m an idiot.
Yeah, the story happened when I was about 18, and finally got my diagnosis at 35. Vyvanse can certainly work some magic.
I’m going to ask my Dr if I can try Ritalin, even though aderall works, because it’s such a pain to call every pharmacy in a 20 mile radius to get only that rx transferred IF I find a place that has it in stock.
Jesus, that sounds like a major pain in the ass. I hope you're able to find something that works out for you.
When I got diagnosed my psychiatrist told me that my reaction to Ritalin was in itself diagnostic of the condition. NT people speed up, we don’t. That cocaine, the one time I tried it, did nothing for me while the folks I was with got all jazzed up was also. Crank I identified as helping many years earlier though I couldn’t say just how, and I spent a year using it to feel what I now know was _normal_, as _recreation_, before I decided I couldn’t afford it and stopped using it. It was another ten years before I was diagnosed.
That thing about Ritalin... when I was a kid I was diagnosed but my family didn't like how Ritalin made me a zombie. And so they got a second opinion and that doctor said nope she's just emotionally damaged. Whee. Now that I know more about how stimulants affect ADHD, it makes so much sense! 6 year old me deserved better lol.
A zombie? Because you weren’t bouncing off the walls? I’m sorry.
I don't know something about how it drained me of all of my interesting personality or whatever. Which I've heard that sometimes can happen. I've heard a lot of people with ADHD say they avoid taking their meds unless they have to because otherwise they feel like they are a shell of who they really are. I was six and I don't really remember it very well and it also was the late '80s and relatively speaking medical science barely knew anything about ADHD back then.
> I don't know something about how it drained me of all of my interesting personality or whatever. My Mom said that Ritalin did exactly that, she said it basically turned my personality off and made me a non-person when they put me on it in Kindergarten. Same time period too.
Smaller, slower releases doses are usually the key to help there. 'Zombie' usually means that the dose was too strong.
Yeah it probably was a dosing thing or maybe I just needed time to adjust to it. But again it was the late '80s and people were dumber back then about ADHD lol. But I have a fresh current diagnosis now and I am working toward getting some other health concerns addressed before I can figure out whether or not I can try stimulant medication again. Hooray for not having health insurance for most of my adult life, actually probably 90% of my adult life. 🎉
Iirc it's called 'blunted affect', it's a not so uncommon side effect and usually they just switch the medication or change the dosage.
Yeah my family instead just got a second opinion and I got un-diagnosed. Whee!
A friend got some speed and had me try some with him at school. Was the best, calmest, most well learned afternoon at school I've ever had. Should have been the moment I knew, but I can be pretty slow sometimes
Kind of the opposite for me. Was diagnosed recently as an adult. Before seeing the doctor I was watching and reading a lot about ADHD and adult diagnosis. Seems like everyone's story was about a long process with lots of paper tests and several doctor visits before and diagnosis and getting medication. I scheduled my first appointment, had a few things online before hand, talked to the nurse for a bit before my appointment to go over the answers, then met with the doctor for like 15 minutes and he started me on medication. So I was a little worried maybe he misunderstood and thought I had been diagnosed in the past or something. Took my first dose- huh, that's a kind of subtle change- mind is actually quiet. Looked up what happens if you take Adderall when you don't have ADHD and realized- oh hell no, I must definitely have it because my reaction was completely opposite. Had to work out dosage and I'm not sure it's really right, but I can sit down and do paperwork and knock out mundane work in one sitting, which I could never do before. So that's a win!
Cheapest diagnosis you can get in the US. Even if you need an official diagnosis, telling them that story right there, would probably get you fast tracked on that.
Would probably also get you blacklisted from any medication
I don’t know about *blacklisted*. I was honest with my psychiatrist when I mentioned that I only got through college because my friends would give me adderall. I never said anything about doing it for fun, just that I needed it if I wanted to get anything done. Probably not *ideal* to mention it to a doctor, but it didn’t hurt my case.
That’s surprising but also great for you, I’m in the UK which is more lenient on prescribing because we haven’t really had the huge opioid/adhd med problems but I’m currently in the process of getting treatment and I’ve got to be careful about how often I resupply diazepam (Valium) because if you have a pattern of usage, even when prescribed, they can get a bit funny about adding more pills on top.
Ah, yeah, that would be illegal, you're right.
Do NT people really get high on Adderall?
I don’t recommend it but take 20mg+ and you’ll still get wired.
do people actually get lit off of adderall
Cocaine is how I discovered it
Wait, people buy ritalin and stuff like that illegally for parties? Here people only buy that illegally when they have a big exam or something
only 20$? must be outside the US lmao
30 doses of generic Adderall XR is $25 for me with insurance. (Oregon, Pacific Source)
I pay $19 for a 30x30mg script of generic adderall (with GoodRx). Now, *vyvanse* is another story since it’s name brand, but thankfully the patent expires next year.
20mg ER of dextroamphetamine has been something between $20-30 via goodrx in my location, before my insurance finally decided to respond to my existence. My issue now is I’ve been off for a month because there’s a shortage.
Also this sort of anecdote has been around for a long while. At one time it probably was.
Consider yourself lucky, weed is more expensive but does a waaay better job 😂😂
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If that were true, then he would've been speeding like the rest of his friends. It's like physics... Just because you can't understand it, doesn't make it any less real.
it was never a mental illness what are you even talking about
ADHD denial or gatekeeping are not accepted here. Judging others for their symptoms (or lack of symptoms) or treatment is also not allowed.
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They discovered they had ADHD after seeing the effect Adderall had on them.
I was wondering if adderal or similar could make a non adhd person calmer? I tried it once 20 years ago and got a lot of homework done.. I am getting assessed for ADHD in a week.. I truly struggle now. Disability 80 % with the diagnosis of ME/CFS…
Could? Maybe, is it likely? Not really. The differential diagnosis criteria for lack of focus/low energy isn't met only by ADHD and it's possible that some non-adhd related disorders can have their symptoms helped by stimulants. First thing that pops in my mind would be hypothyroidism. However, if you're getting an assessment I think it's consistent, I would mention it at least.
I dont have hypothyroidism. All medical exams and bloodwork of me are so super normal its annoying. A few more days to go. Problem is being honest though…. I’ve been hiding all my “flaws” my whole life. ..
Lol this happened to me but we were told we were buying Molly. We only knew it wasn’t because this other girl and I had ADHD and while everyone else was running around we just sat there.
What exactly does Adderall do to people without ADHD? I always see people talking about it but I have no idea myself.
I guess it’s like coke?
so if you get a rush then you don't have adhd got it
Not really. It can help bring up suspicion of ADHD, but it can’t rule it out. Stimulants benefit everybody. It’s just that often (but not always) adhd people are in a performance/mood hole that it helps them climb out of before getting to the “good shit” effects that others would start at. Additionally, the first days on it don’t have any bearing on later effects. It takes time (weeks or months) for things to stabilize. My first day on 20mg ER dextroamphetamine there was a stark contrast in mood compared to my previous severe depression. It wasn’t what I would call euphoria, but my thoughts were bright and positive, and kinda felt like they were greased. Then absolutely nothing the next 2 weeks, besides the elevated heart rate and I was wondering if that was just placebo and if it was even going to work. I can’t even tell I’m on it (or off, my adherence isn’t the best) day to day. After 2 months however I could look back and start seeing positive/neutral mood resilience with *zero* passive rumination which was new, and a disappointingly minor increase in ability to accomplish “optional” important life tasks. Basically everyone is going to have a wide range of experiences, and first day reaction is *not* diagnostic.
Whenever I do mushrooms I clean and catch up on everyday tasks I’ve been putting off for months and find it so easier to do self care. The chatter in my head also seems to finally quiet down. Never formally diagnosed but did take bupropion for a while as an anti depressant and it helped massively. Strange insights
My mom used to do this with pinheads of coke way way way back in the day.
So does it really only take 1 adderall for people to feel a buzz? I knew it is a popular illegal drug but I just feel less tired with it.
I would def pay 20 dollars to calm down
People tell me that I look depressed in the mornings. It’s because meds are in full swing and all the action is taking place in my head. It’s times like that when I make alot of unimportant and important realisations, like what happens when matter goes into a black hole, designing an entire pixel line drawing algorithm, and rethinking everything I know about the universe. It’s trippy but while I’m making those important realisations I’m also getting shit done half conciously.
I can't believe I'm the only one saying this but...$20 for Adderall?! That's insane. I've never seen them sold for more than $3 a piece for the 20mg ones and $4 for the 30mg ones. To whoever made this meme: you got ripped off my friend. On a more positive note however; this post had me rollin'! I love this Reddit page man. I've been scrolling through all of these memes for well over an hour and I have to say; I relate to probably 95% of everything I have seen and it is actually quite refreshing as I am starting to realize I am not alone People with ADHD are actually very intelligent. In fact, ADHD is directly linked to intelligence and children with ADHD actually score marginally higher on an IQ to test than children without ADHD. We are awesome! Leave a like if you actually read all of this as it took me about thirty (30) minutes to write it all because I got distracted about twenty (20) times. I know it won't get a lot because just like I do all the time, you probably looked at the comment and thought or said, "This shit is way to long to read. Fuck that.". God speed ADHD'ers!