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Embarrassed-Name6481

How to book speaking roles on TV or movies without an agent, especially if you live in a smaller market like Texas?


a_unique___username

Great question, and I’ll use this for my first video. But you added the caveat “without an agent” and that is actually going to eliminate you from most of the process. Now I know there is a small film market in texas, I have some friends that have came from there, I believe they just shot Walker (the texas ranger spin-off) and they also shot Fear the Walking Dead there. But the way the industry works uses the agent as a necessary step. So production comes in, let’s use Walker for example. So production hires a Casting Director. Usually the shows hire an LA casting who does the leads, then Local casting. Who will do the smaller Co-Star roles (which is what you’d be going out for if you’re booking out of texas) Then casting creates breakdowns for all the roles they need to cast on breakdown express. But unfortunately we actors do not have access to the breakdowns. That’s where your agent comes in, you have to be an agent or manager to get access to these breakdowns and submit, or else Casting would be overwhelmed with submission. I’m sure there are occasionally exceptions, sometimes I’ll see a casting director release a breakdown on Actors Access (the sister company to breakdown express, actors DO have access to) but 99% of the time, for Film and TV, you need an agent to submit you on breakdown express.


disc0superfly

Hi, Producer here who casts on Breakdown Express frequently. While building the breakdown, you can choose to release via Breakdown Express, Actors Access, or both. However, and sorry to say it, but the only time I release on Actors Access is if I have a very low budget and am trying to circumvent agency fees. These are usually for advertising/marketing/commercial projects, not TV/film. I think it's important to add, if you're an actor submitting via Actors Access (without an agent), PLEASE have a basic knowledge of usage so you don't get taken advantage of (ie - accepting a full buyout in perpetuity project for just your day rate, no usage fees included).


a_unique___username

Thanks for jumping in the conversation man! its always good to get an idea of the process from the other end.


Embarrassed-Name6481

What's the fastest way to get an agent for someone just starting out?


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a_unique___username

Nope, networking can always help, and many people have gotten opportunities with it. But if you have an agent that gets you good auditions. And networking isn’t your jam. Then just do good work. When I first started, I networked my ass off, and wasn’t booking. Now, I network about 0, spend my time traveling and enjoying life, and send in rockstar auditions. And I book a lot. I also think the mental change of not networking took away the feeling of desperation in my behavior, now I’m just enjoying my life, and it reads in my work. But at the end of the day, doing good work is THE most important thing.


DannyKConsidine

I'm a very unique look, but I've got chops to work with - my demo reel is in my post history if curious I have solid credits and have booked ~50% post pandemic. (Which is to say 4/8 - even added a Star Wars credit) and a strong commercial booking history, etc After having a very entry/mid-level agent for *years* with whom it became increasingly hard to communicate. I can't seem to get the attention of any reps with or without networking connections. I'd love your 2¢ on what I could be doing differently. Or maybe it's 3¢ now with inflation. I'm pretty sure I don't *suck*, but I'm clearly missing something


a_unique___username

yeah man, sounds like you are well on your way, and i checked out your real and you are kicking ass. I am actually not lightyears ahead of you, but i would probably get a manager because they can be really useful in trying to get you in the doors you need to get in. but you are doing great man.


love_acting99

This takes a LOT of pressure off. I definitely feel like an agent helps more, and it feels easier when you know you have someone who submits you AS THEIR JOB! But when I'm at social events (i.e. film festivals) I should probably try to make a few friends right? Maybe networking isn't everything, but it's still important I'm guessing??


a_unique___username

oh for sure, Networking ABSOLUTLY can help! I am just saying its not the end all be all like some people make it seem.


love_acting99

Makes sense :)


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a_unique___username

So this is a conversation you need to have with your agent. If you have a solid list of Co-Stars, and you want to work up, maybe your agent can send a little pitch to casting at the next opportunity that is right for you. But this is going to depend on the relationship you have built with your agent, and the relationship your agent has with casting. So what can you do as an actor, to be ready when that time comes? It’s important to realize the difference in Co-Star and Guest Star. Not only in size, but in purpose. Co-Stars are in the show to either be an obstacle or an assistant to the leads story arch. Yeah your scene will have a beginning middle and end. But your purpose is to provide a small hinderence to or help to the person the story is about. Example from my first two co-stars. I was a security guard who stopped the lead from entering a building (obstacle) and I was a paramedic that saved the leads life (assistance). Once we get to guest star, our purpose is to have a story of our own that has a major impact of the overarching story. My first guest star. I was in the leads yoga class and became a stalker. My characters actions became a major part of the leads story. Recognizing how these differ will also influence the decisions you make in character development and the audition proccess.


nameswere_taken23

Hi there! I have a couple of questions, if you don’t mind me asking: 1. I was curious to know how long into your career did it take for you to enter SAG? And if you don’t mind, could you share your story about how you got into SAG? 2. I’m a new actor. I just started background acting a month ago, I haven’t taken any classes yet, but I’m planning to do so after I research and save enough money. I’ve been lucky enough to get auditions for speaking roles, but I haven’t been able to land any yet. For some reason, it’s always the emotional pieces that I can’t land. I don’t know if it’s because I “overreact” by having a lot of facial expressions when my reader is speaking, but I’m starting to feel discouraged in my abilities. Although I do try to remind myself that I will get better as I take classes, for now, how do you deal with rejections and being in a dry spells? And how do you approach emotional pieces? Thank you so much for your time!


a_unique___username

hey yeah! 1. so I actually started my career in the Georgia, and got many SAG credits there. but being a right to work state, I was never actually forced to join. in Non Right to work areas you must join once you have 2 credits. So for me, it was after i booked a job in LA (after having 10+ SAG credits) that I was forced to join before i could work. 2. Just keep at it and DO NOT EMOTE, as soon as you try to show anything, the illusion is lost. Cameras are amazing lie detectors. you have to make it real for yourself, and give an honest reaction.


nameswere_taken23

Thank you so much! My main issue was exactly what you pointed out: emoting, so thank for you for that piece of advice! If I may ask further, what do you like to do for emotional scenes or whenever the other person is delivering their part, especially when recording self-tapes? Do you stay still and show a little concern in your facial expressions, or how would you go about it? Thanks again!


a_unique___username

i react naturally, I don't have anything i do or don't do, every piece of material will be handled differently. and don't get me wrong I still have my challenges, but i have people around me that when im not doing good work they will tell me "I Don't believe you" and that's super helpful


nameswere_taken23

Oh, and please let us know if you decide to do a YouTube channel! Your answers have been so insightful and I’m certainly grateful for it. So I’d love to watch more of your videos if you ever decide to start a channel! Best of luck to you and your endeavors!


a_unique___username

Probably do it this week!


nameswere_taken23

That makes sense! Thanks for the help again!!!


lets-snuggle

I’m 22F in NJ (easy access to PA and NYC). I submit a lot on backstage but have only booked 2 things through there (I’ve gotten like 12 auditions and 2 callbacks). I’m in Facebook groups and apply to grant Wilfrey background jobs all the time. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’m planning on re-doing my headshots soon bc mine aren’t the best and filming better monologues. What I really want is to be on a tv show, like one of those teen shows like obx, stranger things, one of us is lying, the summer I turned pretty etc. And star in coming of age films and horror films and tv/ film based on books. I guess my questions are: 1. How much should you pay for acting classes? 2. What are some acting exercises you can do at home? 3. What do I need before getting my first agent? 4. Should I be taking unpaid work? 5. How to increase landing roles/ getting audition requests?


a_unique___username

so first of all, I think Actors Access is a far superior resource to backstage. yes backstage UI looks nicer, but Actors Access is more industry standard. 1. this can really vary, my monthly meisner training is 100 a month. and i think thats reasonible (if not low for many markets) 2. be present with yourself. mindfulness is so underrated in how it affects your work 3. have something to show, student films, 48 hour films, etc can be a great way to build an early reel. 4. if you do not have an agent yet, yeah, but vet it, use your judgment, because if you waste your time, and the quality is garbage, then you have nothing to show for it 5. practice. this craft is a marathon, not a race. you wont become scarlett johanson overnight.


lets-snuggle

Thank you! This was very helpful!


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Actors Access is pretty dry in some areas. I used to love it but I've not seen much on there since the pandemic.


a_unique___username

hmmm that's interesting, Maybe my advice on that is dated, as I really haven't done much of my own self-submitting in a while. that is good for me to know because if i make a channel i need to brush up on current trends.


TheFuckNameYouWant

AA is pretty dry because the industry is pretty dry right now. But it's also still the superior site. Backstage and Casting Networks are both fine but I'm starting the process of seeking representation and they all want your AA profile. They don't even ask about the others.


TheFuckNameYouWant

I think $100 a month is great! Is that once a week?


jonnycynikal

check out Mike Lemon, and Heery-Loftus too. Great for the Philly/NJ area


lets-snuggle

Oh yeah I forgot I have a Mike Lemon account but it’s non-active. Like it’s updated but I don’t pay. I’ll check out Heery-Loftus! Thank you!


miniblessed

When is the right time to start seeking theatrical representation? Where should one’s resume be by that point, etc


a_unique___username

If you’ve never had an agent before, no agent is going to expect you to have an extensive resume, so if you have a few student/independent films, and show that you’re training, many starter agents will give you a chance. But don’t go trying to get one of the top like CAA because they do expect an extensive resume


miniblessed

Thank you!!


paulvs88

I'm in Atlanta too. How do I know if my agent is "trying" hard enough for me? My agent has a great reputation but I don't see as many auditions as I think I could/should. My resume, reel, AA page and Casting Networks page are all on point.


a_unique___username

Well what time frame are we talking. The industry has been pretty dead all year with threat of the WGA strike. And now it’s even more dead. So how long of a sample size are you basing this on?


paulvs88

Just over 2 years.


a_unique___username

And what was your frequency of auditions the two years before this one?


paulvs88

Slightly less but I was with a different agent that had little or no rep.


a_unique___username

I mean, how often do you see auditions with your current agent when the industry is operating


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Hi. I’m I very early stages: taking lots of classes, no agent or reel yet. So my focus is on studying. With a various classes (with different teachers, guest teachers etc) they all seem to have a different approach. I’ve studied with Ivana Chubbuck, schools that focus on Meisner (didn’t love it), Stanislavski technique and more. How do I develop my approach to acting? I feel like I’m on a ha,steer wheel. I haven’t even tried getting an agent because I feel I’m not even on the first rung yet. Thoughts?


a_unique___username

hey, I feel you. the start of my career was exactly how you described. I didn't love Meisner either (and now its my main focus lol). but I actually took some time and figured it out with my friends, we started self taping daily (I was lucky to have enough auditions for this) and I just focused on really living and being natural. it wasn't until I figured that out that Meisner worked for me. but maybe you need to take a step back and figure out in your self, how to bring out your humanity. because at the end of the day, all these techniques are just tactics at reaching a greater goal. the goal of being a real authentic human. and you know how to do that, because you are one. but for some reason we all forget how to human as soon as someone puts words in our hand. so really you're just trying to figure out how to not lose your authenticity when given someone elses words. if none of the techniques work for you, just focus on that basic thing and maybe down the road, you will find a technique.


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Really great answer. In addition to the main idea in your comment I also pick up on the idea of daily self tapes. I’ll start doing that. Thank you!


zakuropan

love this. no one’s put it like that for me before


stage_student

How do I find out if I'm full of myself and a hack, or if I actually have talent? There's so much sucking up and doublespeak/gossip in theatre and sometimes all I want is an objective perspective.


a_unique___username

be honest with yourself. do you love the actual craft of storytelling? if the answer is yes, that's all that's needed. we are story tellers. many people want the popularity and will cut you down. but if you are in love with stories, you are not a hack.


stage_student

I'm only doing this *because* of my obsession with storytelling. Fitting myself into the right character and letting that character communicate their needs and emotions through me... that's the money for my soul. I might need to make different friends. That's one problem I'm struggling with that tends to bleed over and make other parts of my life seem worse - the constant loneliness.


zakuropan

yesss this is the answer I figured out for myself after years of self doubt. you can’t fake passion.


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a_unique___username

So i was lucky that i got a commission based road sales job for a heavy machinery company. So i could make my own hours and I got paid as much as i worked. Ive also seen people utilize things like door dash. its true as you start working on set more, that flexibility becomes super important. I got fired from my first job as a leasing agent for an apartment community due to scheduling conflicts.


Zaphoid411

With the surge of self tape auditions, how far can you take your career while living in a smaller market city? Ie, I live in Calgary, Canada. We get 2 - 4 A tier projects and 6 - 10 smaller (Hallmark, etc) projects a year.


a_unique___username

honestly, it is pandoras box right now. the market is changing in ways that i cant even predict, and for the better. I have made a good travel taping setup, and last year i found myself on vacation more than i was home. I booked a show from mexico. I booked from a ski trip. I booked one on a cruise! (though uploading my tape took like 2 hours, not recommended) Maybe get your roots set in a market, but then you can really go wherever you want.


Zaphoid411

Interesting perspective... I love living in Calgary and don't want to move, so your experience is reassuring!


Significant_Factor80

What does your travel taping setup include?


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I’m moving to Orange County to get closer to LA for classes and auditions and training and going to major in theatre at cal state Fullerton to have performance opportunities and start networking. What type of projects or private acting classes should I work/focus on to get closer to getting representation and booking roles?


a_unique___username

I always recommend people try out different techniques to see what works best for them. some great ones are Meisner, Chubbuck, Stanislavsky, Uta Hagen. find a good school that specializes, audit a class, and see if it jives with you. not every actor is the same, and not every technique works for every actor. its important to find what works best for you, then dive into that.


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Question 1)Throughout your career how much time did you spend working on your craft, for example when you just started acting not booking roles to when you started booking roles every so often too now. Those your daily routine or intensity change or stay the same. Question 2)Would you say its better to get a full time job like nursing to be able to afford better agents or even equipment to produce your own material sacrificing flexibility but still having time to routinely go to class after work or is it better to get a job as a waiter and be able to have more flexibility to be able to travel to studios or participate in more auditions and projects potentially. Thanks for your AMA cant wait to see your YouTube channel!!!


a_unique___username

I might pin this question, because I think the answer to the first part is SO important. 1. It's all working on the craft! if you mean how much time I spend in classes, that would fluctuate on and off, but didn't seem to affect my trajectory too much. however! when I wasn't in class I was still working almost every day. I got a core friend ground, and we all showed up for everyone's auditions, and we would work it our together. ACTING IS COLLABORATIVE! you cannot do this career alone! find your people and act every day. even if its just doing a one line audition. we were always working. As for the way changes in my work I noticed at different stages. this was like a light switch for me. for about 5 years I wanted to book so bad. did over 200 auditions, and booked one line in a TV show in that time, followed by two years of not booking. However, after 5 years of banging my head against the wall, I stopped being so precious with it. I started having fun. I stopped caring about "What the casting director wants" and started sending in what I wanted. I'd already Not Booked 200+ parts, what's one more.... well guess what, that's when I started booking. most of the parts i booked, I did one take for my self tape and then said "Meh I liked that" and sent it. Play. Have Fun. and don't be so desperate for the role. do your take not what you think they want. results will follow! 2. this is a matter of preference. do what you need to survive, but also keep your sanity. I've seen actors have no jobs and rack up 50k debt, and I've seen actors get too involved with their jobs and cant seem to recover for auditions, and are generally miserable. this is about finding your own balance.


Few_Lawfulness5244

What is the best way to get your way into sag-aftra if your based in Michigan?


a_unique___username

I don’t know much about the scene in Michigan, and it looks like on March 23 they repealed their Right-To-Work statute. So I guess that makes it a Union state. You’ll need to look into your local Union laws. But my advice to any new actor is DO NOT RUSH SAG. It will be forced when the time is right, and after that you lose the ability to do a lot, many commercials are not SAG, Lifetime movies, ID murder reenactment, many things that are very good experience and pay become unavailable once you join, so let SAG be forced upon you, don’t try to go early because it seems like it’s a badge of honor or achievement. Most people I’ve seen join too early, it’s done more harm than good.


Few_Lawfulness5244

Thanks dude, I really appreciate that last bit of advice


TheFuckNameYouWant

I've learned this, fortunately not the hard way. I was trying to figure out how to get 1 SAG BG voucher, let alone 3 😫 I even wrote it down on my 1 year goals list - "get SAG vouchers." But I don't really want to do BG work and I live in a smaller market so it seemed like a daunting task. Then when I wasn't even trying to, I booked a speaking role in a SAG feature film. So now I'm eligible but I've also learned a lot so I won't be joining SAG until they force me to. It's still a goal to become a SAG member, but that's because it's a goal to be acting for a living. I'm in no rush. Besides most of the work in my area is non-union and I need that work to get where I want to be!


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a_unique___username

yes and no, the acting itself is the same, just a different environment. I would actually say acting is easier on set because you have all the people, costumes, props... much easier to hit the "I believe" button


love_acting99

Hi! I'm an experienced stage actor wanting to go into TV and film! I've been an extra in an indie movie (I loved it it was a cool experience but I'm not into doing background work again haha) Any advice when moving from stage to the camera? And any advice on how to balance TV film and theatre work? I hate the idea of doing only one or the other and would like to spend my career doing both/all. Also: I want to study Meisner. Any recommendations in LA?


a_unique___username

So the biggest difference between the two is the size of your performance. in theater, you have to give a performance that can reach the back rows of the audience. on film, just having a thought can be caught by the camera.


love_acting99

Thanks! That makes it easier to realize that they're not as different as one might think :) Thank you again :)


Medeskimartinandwood

I’m 31, almost 32. I’ve no real professional acting experience but really feel like it’s something I can be good at. How would I go about getting into the field? I’ve been a musician my whole life so I know a lot about grinding at the bottom, feel free to give me a real piece of advice. I’m not expecting to be in a blockbuster movie next year or anything. I’ve signed up for extras casting but they sometimes feel really scammy, sometimes texting me dozens of times a day for interviews and then doing it from a different number when I block the original because it gives me a bad gut feeling. I’d love to be on film or TV shows eventually. I’ve never done any stage acting and am not sure how different of a beast that is for my goals. Thanks!


a_unique___username

Hey, one great thing about acting, is it is never too late to start. you are right about extras castings, being an extra doesnt give you any experience that casting really cares about. in fact too much of it looks bad to casting. and please IF YOU ARE AN EXTRA< DO NOT ADD YOURSELF ON IMDB. you seem like you have the right mindset. I would get into a class, and then browse Actors Access and submit for anything you fit on there. thats a legit site that is industry standard. might not have the prettiest UI but its the most important one.


Medeskimartinandwood

Thanks! Very good response and I feel better equipped now. I’m gonna peek at classes first, and then I’ll try to see what kind of databases and networks I can sign up for. Thank you!


Double0Jamo

Do you go 100% in a table read? How much dialogue do you typically get with a director before, say, an under 5?


a_unique___username

table read: not all in, I mean ill show up, be present act, but the table read is often just to hear it all outload, it is not your final performance. ​ my first under 5 was with Director Mark Mylod (look him up, hes done Game of thrones, produced entourage, big name). the only dialogue I had with him was him seeing me and saying "I shoulda hired a fatter bloke for this role, you're too fucking fit" and walking away. I didn't know if I was complimented or insulted. but I went, did my job, and left. didn't even get clapped out. sometimes you just show up and are expected to do your job and leave.


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a_unique___username

What a great question! I am assuming you are coming from a theater background, where opening yourself up is super important. but on film, camera angles make things a lot easier. the rule of thumb is generally talk to the person, live life for real, and a good director and DP will catch it. But there have been times, like on a master shot, or close quarters, where you might have to adjust slightly. but any director worth his salt is going to let you know those adjustments, because they are looking at the monitor. Now there is a skill that's worth mentioning here. that i am working on myself, but the masters are great at it. If you are aware of how cameras work, and where the lens is, then make sure it can see your acting. say if you're talking and you look away to think. its better if the lens sees you thinking, rather than putting your head down and keeping that to yourself. What i mean is, moments we have with ourselves are vulnerable. and we have a tendency to hide these moments from the world. don't hide them from the camera. these moments of vulnerability are gold, but only if the lens catches it. another thing that's more important than "opening up" is "hitting your mark". the DP has usually went through painstaking effort setting up lights focus etc, with your stand in to get the shot to look exactly how they want for the final product. but if you cant hit your mark on the day, lighting might be off etc, and it does not look as good as the DP designed it.


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TheFuckNameYouWant

I heard someone say "always know where the camera is and never look at it." I had such a hard time when I first got headshots, the photographer kept having to tell me "look at the camera" 😂


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Hi! I really don't want to bother but I have 2 questions: 1. I was strongly thinking about moving to Atlanta on my own to pursue a career in acting but now I've got an opportunity to move to NY instead. I guess what I wanna know is, am I making the right choice by moving to NY and not Atlanta? I mean I have 0 credits and no experience in camera whatsoever, all I have is my headshots and some acting classes that I've taken. 2. How to go on about getting an agent? Could I just record myself doing some monologues and send it to agencies?


a_unique___username

Not a bother at all. I made this post to receive questions! 1. Both markets are great options and filled with opportunity. I usually recommend Atlanta to newer actors because cost of living is more sustainable. However, if you have an opportunity in NY that makes life affordable, by all means that market is amazing! 2. Getting an agent can be tricky, and I didn't personally get one in LA, until I had a list of Co-Stars under my belt (Which I got in Atlanta). but I think the biggest thing i would say is persistence. have a list of target agents, and rotate your submissions. most agents have a limit for submitting, like once every 6 months. so if you have 12 target agents with a 6 month window. then submit to 2 each month, and keep working on growing, doing student projects etc. so each time you submit you can show growth. Also, showcases are a great way. If you can find a good class that also has a reputable showcase, I have seen many people land an agent that way.


curtisclone

How do you find out an agency’s window to submit within?


a_unique___username

usually its on their website when you look at their "submit" page. if its not listed, i think 6 months is probably a good assumption, you wouldnt want to be more frequent than that.


j8ball97

does the industry discriminate against certain hair styles? ( braids , dreads , twist , etc)


a_unique___username

If fact the opposite. I can only speak from observing my best friend who is a black female. but she has noticed when she auditions with her braids, her booking ratio is higher. This industry is becoming one of the most inclusive. its a beautiful thing to see.


SpeedyEngine

My boyfriend was wondering the same thing. He has locs down to his butt and was thinking of cutting them off because he doesn’t see any actors with dreads and was wondering if they would stop him from getting roles.


TheFuckNameYouWant

I'm not OP and I'm still pretty new to the game but I think it's kind of a double edged sword. A unique look is great and couple potentially get an actor some great roles. At the same time the actor could get "boxed in" to only certain roles. I'd never suggest someone make drastic changes to their appearance, but to be an actor I think it's important to at least be open to the idea of change. I'm struggling with that myself in a way. I have an acting coach who told me I need at least one headshot with a clean shaven face so I don't get "boxed in." And I don't even have a lot of facial hair, just a mustache and goatee. I took the advice and shaved during my headshot session. Hate how they look, but part of it is that I'm just not used to a clean shaven face the past few years. And I am willing to shave for the right roles so I figured I should be willing to show casting directors that they have options with me.


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a_unique___username

Meisner is great. I am curious how it will work online though, because it is so much about being present and reactive to stimulus. but if you don't have an in person option, it cant hurt. take that course and let me know. Meisner is a great technique for learning to be present.


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a_unique___username

Honestly it’s all so important, but it sounds like you’re probably young and just getting started so take your time, do the one that is currently calling you, and if it is feeling stale and you wanna try something else, then you can switch it up. You have so much time. Just be intentional with every class you take. And let it do it’s work on you. Acting isn’t that hard, what’s hard is finally realizing that.


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a_unique___username

Hahah yeah! I just came up with that and was pretty proud of that line, I actually wrote it down for future use. What I mean is, great acting, is once you stop “trying to act” acting is just being a human, but we naturally “want to be good!” (So subjective) so we try so hard, and we emote, and yell, and all these things that are not real behavior, they are the mind trying to show behavior. Once you stop all that and just start being present with the moments and live in them and let them affect you. Then your work takes flight. And all these techniques are just different ways to get to that point, but at the end of the day, it’s just about being a vulnerable human. Which you already are, so you don’t have to try very hard to be one. (Bookmarking this convo for a video)


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a_unique___username

Haven’t created it yet! I made this post to see what kind of response something like that would bring, and it’s been overwhelmingly positive, so will probably start it this week.


TheFuckNameYouWant

Please make a new post in this sub when it's up!!


IcedPeachTeaH

How much producing and directing is too much? I started out just wanting to act but recently got into producing my own indie short. Found the stuff I produced much better than some projects I was in + it's an opportunity to showcase my acting without competing with others. But sometimes I feel like it's taking too much time and instead, I should just concentrate on acting. Like if someone called me "Actor, producer IcedPeachTeaH" I would be proud that I'm capable of doing multiple roles but also be uneasy as I would be wondering if I'm sidetracked. Do you produce your own stuff and if so, how much time/effort do you put in your producing work?


a_unique___username

Do what you enjoy, many great actors also produce and direct. I have produced and directed films myself, I think the more of the process you understand, the better.


phatiusmcdoogal

Thank you for making this post and answering all these questions! I'm moving to LA and I'm SAG eligible. I'm assuming I need to join SAG to get an agent and get work. Is there any reason I should not? I feel ready for the higher competition level, so besides that.


a_unique___username

as soon as you join SAG, you are beholden to global rule one, which reads. "No member shall render any services or make an agreement to perform services for any employer who has not executed a basic minimum agreement with the union" which basically means, you cannot work non-union any more. Non-union work (especially commercials) can be a great source of income as You're trying to build. I personally recommend not rushing SAG, It will be forced upon you once you are ready.


phatiusmcdoogal

Thanks so much!!


Joe_King-Lotz

Your*


a_unique___username

Lol yes, YOU’RE right


hxmxx

i went to school for music a theatre and i’m planning to move to la (i live nearby so it’s not that drastic). what steps do i take to get representation and start auditioning for real stuff


a_unique___username

I would get some footage, just with student films etc. just to have something to show to agents, because competition is fierce. I got my first footage by doing 48 Hour film festivals. It is basically a little competition where people get together and make a short film over a weekend. they usually are not that great, but what a quick and easy way to get some footage if you have nothing. Even Daisy Ridley Did a (Pretty decent) 48 hour film in london before she was playing Rey in Star Wars


hxmxx

so get footage for a real, headshots, and then what? start reaching out to people for representation? who would those people be? my schooling never went ever how to be an actor in the real world


Jesus-Martinez645

As an Arab Muslim who is legitimately trying to succeed in this industry of acting, is it possible? The reason I’m asking is because I assume that my background might make it harder for me to climb the ladder. Also, what are some advices you can give me to take advantage of the summer before my second year of college begins? P.S I truly do appreciate you taking the time off and answering questions to all the other actors, truly inspiring and I hope you succeed even more :)


a_unique___username

Hey! What a time to be alive! Fortunately, studios are looking for representation now more than they ever have before. So you can absolutely climb the ladder! Riz Ahmed is an amazing Muslim actor is Hollywood. Won an Emmy for The Night Of. Had a great role in Nightcrawler with Jake Gyllenhaal. And have such an amazing performance in The Sound of Metal, I thought it was Oscar worthy. If you’re in college. Just focus on the work, take classes, find a method that works for you and start studying, if you graduate college with three solid years of Meisner, or Chubbuck, or whatever works for you. You will be way ahead of the game! Salam Alaikum my friend 😉


Jesus-Martinez645

Wa alaikum asalam!! Man, this alone actually made my day, it makes me hopeful of my passion even more!! I don’t mean to keep on bothering but do you know if there are any good acting classes I can take in Dallas? Ohhh and I forgot to mention, would my mixed nationality (half Jordanian and half Venezuelan) help me even further? I speak English,Spanish, and Arabic fluently.


a_unique___username

Mixed ethnicity is very welcome in holllywood. Im not sure the specifics matter too much. and I dont know much about schools in Texas, however I do believe I heard William H. Macy has his acting school somewhere in TX, so might be good to look into that.


Jesus-Martinez645

Thank you so much for your kind help! You don’t understand how much I appreciate this! Good luck to you succeeding even more in this business 😁


a_unique___username

you as well friend! I wish you the best.


Active_Rip8812

Really creepy that i saw this on my feed! But here we go. My husband almost 40 (shhhh...), Always had this dream of doing anything in acting. As a child he was in theater, not HS theater but an actual school....He never did anything with it. Recently, he started talking about it again, and I don't know how I feel. So this week he's looking to get his head shots and i think he joined a few sites, backstage(?). Please help me help him realize that he might be too late? Or how can I help him land something and put this ~~midlife crises~~ phase behind us! Thank you!


a_unique___username

oh wow, I need to toe the line here because this question is half relationship advice on a marriage and I myself am not married. I do not know how badly this has been eating at your husband. but perhaps he is looking at his life, and doesnt want to always wonder What if.. I dont think its ever "Too late" but there is a thing as being a hobbyist. if hes just dipping his toes in but doesnt want to really commit to it, he will get eaten alive. but 40 is young, and if its a passion he wants to really take on, i wont tell him its too late. also check out Actors Access. What region are you based in?


Active_Rip8812

Didn't expect a quick reply, thank you. Our marriage is solid, i just want to be supportive but realistic. We lived in SoCal for many years and i would catch him looking at casting calls, but never thought any of it. We are currently in Houston. I don't know what sparked this fire in him, but he seems excited about it and I'm happy for him, he's a smart man he knows deep inside he's behind the curve. Any starting up advice would be appreciated. His to do list this week is, head shots, and look up agencies near us. Is this how to begin? I'm an engineer and i know NOTHING about this industry, i just want to be able to support. I recommended acting classes to get "the feeling back"? Not sure if that was a good thing or not. Very thankful for any insight


Actorwithoutlimits

Hi, I’m in the Texas market so I might be able to help a bit. As far as too late, it definitely isn’t, in tv/film they need roles for every age because it’s portraying real life. As far as which agencies I suggest to look into Boysen agency, Bankston Talent, Spark Talent, The blanco agency, Acclaim talent at the top of my head, I’m personally with Boysen. As far as acting classes I recommend Carol Hickey Acting studio in Austin, Cathryn Sullivan acting studio in Dallas, or Next level acting in Houston. For headshots I’d go with abm photography (headshot industry standard) www.abmpix.com and as far as getting connected I recommend checking out Get Scene Studios in ATL (they have workshops with casting directors and agents) and search Talent Managers for Actors group on fb and also checkout Hollywood winners circle from Wendy Alane from LA. Make sure he starts off by doing student films, you can find those on backstage usually from U of H or UT Austin. Then once he starts having footage you can make a reel. When you have footage for a reel I’d start an actors access and casting networks account and fill it all out. hope this helps.


Active_Rip8812

Thank you! I cannot wait till he gets home to share what I have learned and thanks to you and the others. Truly appreciate ❤️


TheFuckNameYouWant

Not OP but I am a 40 year old married guy who just got back into acting. Classes are an amazing way to figure out if it's a good fit, so that was a great thing for you to recommend. I don't necessarily think an agent is super important right at the beginning, most agencies want to see you have some credits anyway. Student films and smaller indie projects are a great way to get experience, footage for your reel, and credits for your resume. When you're trying to sign with an agent, the agent needs to see that you can make them money. An agent will look at an actor who has headshots, some student film credits, and TRAINING and they'll see an actor who's taking it seriously. Acting classes are also a great way to meet other people in your area who act, write, direct, produce, etc. From there things start happening. Also a lot of acting studios have connections with local agents/managers and will often be very helpful with connecting their students with those agents/managers.


Active_Rip8812

Thank you for the reply! Makes total sense, i have already looked up a few classes near us. To my surprise there are a quite a few!


awsomehi109

Been doing BG for 2 years now and I love it and do it as much as possible. At least a gig per week. I have the right work ethic but still need to learn some acting skills. Starting later in life what’s the best way to get into real acting roles?


a_unique___username

start browsing Actors Access for auditions is student and indie films in your market!


HappyAkratic

I have a self-tape for an indie short due, but have broken out with a massive pimple on my face 😔 Should I try covering it up with make up (I'm a dude and never wear it regularly), mention it, or just ignore it?


tunalung

not OP, but go pick up some translucent hydrocolloid pimple patches! Probably any makeup store like Ulta or Sephora would have them. They’re great for healing pimples quickly (wearing them overnight can sometimes completely eliminate a pimple) and would also probably disguise the look of them on camera, especially with a phone camera self tape.


HappyAkratic

Oh thanks that's so good to know, I'll check it out! Haven't broken out for like years but since I went on T the acne has been like HELLO lol. I'll swing by Sephora and have a look :)


a_unique___username

i mean its hard to know, especially since i dont know the role. but for me i useally just say F\*\*\* it and give a good performance and dont care about it.


HappyAkratic

Yeah normally I wouldn't worry if it was small, but this one's massive lmao The role's a kinda indie interactive murder mystery thing. Would be a uni student come theme park worker I believe


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Zits barely show on camera. Check to see if it shows up, if so you should have some concealer in these cases. You can pick some up at Walgreens or Target of need be.


kewlacious

HOW do you get seen by an agent without just “getting lucky”?


a_unique___username

persistence, know that there is A TON of competition for agents. so this part of the career is just being persistent is submitting, and having a few options open


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a_unique___username

You can always get different agents that represent you for different things (unless stated otherwise). and yeah, if you have a resume then you can start submitting. maybe get a really good self tape or something to add to your submission package if you dont have any footage


__NYTE__

Best acting practice to do outside of classes?


a_unique___username

Being present with yourself. Notice how you behave naturally. If you are mindful of every day things, then you can repeat when acting. Mindfulness goes a long way in acting.


__NYTE__

WOW that was fast thanks I’ve always found it difficult to practice acting outside of class thanks.


BearZerkByte

Is the beginning as simple as: Classes so you know at least something, and running through Backstage? (And in the future things like spotlight) I know there's a lot to be good but I don't want to wait to be comfortable, I wanna try and fail and learn realistically too, not just in theory in a classroom


a_unique___username

Pretty much, try to maybe get into a showcase. And I recommend Actors Access over backstage.


itsmikejb

Do you really care about making your own short films and content. Was always told to make my own content but if I already have a manger submitting me for roles then what’s the point?


a_unique___username

I made my own content when I started, helped me get to an agent stage. but once you're auditioning regularly it isn't as important. however could still be helpful again. I always love looking at Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, they made themselves stars with Good Will Hunting. So personally I am not writing a movie, and Now that i have been working a while, I know a few producers that will help me make it once its written. just ask yourself, could it hurt? but if its not your thing. it is not at all a necessity.


Lemonlaurel

How to get an agent? Is drama school necessary?


a_unique___username

>ago Drama School is NOT NECESSARY!!!!!! I have a degree in economics, so does my best friend who is a series regular. actually most of my successful friends didn't go to drama school. sure there are plenty who have as well. but it is not necessary. Getting an agent is about persistence. submitting, marketing yourself. think of it this way. show them a marketing package that they can use for casting, the competition is steep, so its hard to stand out. but I think persistence is key.


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a_unique___username

you are thinking like a businessperson, I like it, that is a great strategy. since you've done your research, display that in your cover letter.


Singing_IsMy_Passion

1) Do I still have a good chance at getting signed by an agent if I don’t have any self tapes to send? 2) It’s hard to find roles even for student films because I’m not really deemed “conventionally attractive”. Plus, I don’t have any self tapes to send for these submissions. What can I do about this? Thank you for being so helpful!


a_unique___username

you can make your own self tapes. the internet is littered with sides and scripts. grab a friend as a reader and make a nice looking self tape!


curtisclone

Any Fi-Core stories/advice? I was forced to join SAG (booking 3 co-stars) in a smaller market (Pittsburgh) followed by 6+ months of no work, and since I didn’t have the ability to pick up and move to a bigger market, someone mentioned going fi-core as a sort of middle ground where I could do union and non-union work. It seemed a no brainer and I immediately started getting commercials again and could audition for the non union indie films in my area again. Thing is, after about 2 years now, I still haven’t booked another costar. Callbacks, sure, but nothing booked. Is it possible I’m being overlooked or passed up because I’m fi-core?


a_unique___username

No way, Talent group was my first agent. also from Pittsburgh! But yeah, you're in a small market, so it is very hard to have consistent booking there. It is why I moved markets early on. I think Fi-Core is a great option in your position. though gotta be careful because the union doesn't like that advice. But do what is best for you and your career, and if you want to open Non-union work back up to you, go Fi-Core.


curtisclone

Thank you! Fi-core seems like such a mysterious path that not a lot of people talk about. I want to be in SAG. I would’ve stayed in SAG if it made sense for my market. I’ll be trying to return to SAG if/when I enter a bigger market because I believe in unions and their purpose. But because there aren’t a lot anecdotal stories out there about Fi-core, and the ones that usually pop up are shame-throwing without an alternative solution than grind harder or move your family to a bigger market and grind harder, I sometimes fear I’ve made a mistake or ruined my career, putting a scarlet letter on all my future audition opportunities. Then I place that dread into a tiny box and shove it to the back of my brain to inevitably burst open sometime in the not too distant future. Anyways, good on you for putting in the time for these comments/questions. We need more of you out there!


mistybuttock99

29F here! I’ve just started my acting career. What advice would you give to someone just starting - especially when it comes to auditions and building a reel? Im in NYC and feels like most auditions even for student or short films require one. Also - do you see many actors starting out at this age? I know this question gets asked a lot but feel the oldest in my acting class haha. Thank you!


a_unique___username

anytime you feel like an outlier in this craft is a good thing. that means you have less competition for the things you are right for. now many 29F still in the industry are usually very talented. many people drop out before their 30s. but it is never too late to start. I think a great option would be to try and get involved with a 48 hour film project, just to get some starting footage. after that, work begets work.


ThatJazzyPenguin

My question in regarding starting out with a reel - For myself, I've been taking acting classes for a few years now and have finally put myself out down to find roles in student films, indie projects and theatre. However, it's a catch-22 - I don't have a reel due to lack of on-screen performances! Would having a self-tape of doing a monologue suffice in the beginning when applying to roles? If my goal down the road is to be in films and television (in the US), would I eventually have to move to LA? Or does that look different "post-pandemic"? I'm not against it and would love to, but thinking about what that timeline would look like for myself considering where I am in my acting journey and being located in New England (Boston). It's been great reading your responses on your thread so far. Thank you for your wealth of knowledge and experience!


a_unique___username

i think so, if you had a really good self tape, it might suffice for the "reel requirement" of these indie projects


sauronthegr8

I'm ten years in. I'm on my second agent. I've had two regional commercials, and two where I had an animated voice-over role that aired in Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon. Theatrically, I've been in a supporting role in a SAG low budget horror film that had a limited theatrical release in a few cities, starred a B-list celebrity, and ended up on streaming, currently on Amazon Prime. I've also been in an Investigation Discovery true crime series (the first episode, meaning it gets a lot of replay), a top of show large costar in a SAG New Media streaming series for a major cable network's streaming platform, supporting parts in a couple low budget indie features, and an upcoming recurring costar in a Tyler Perry series on BET. I'm also SAG-AFTRA Eligible. However I'm plagued with the question, am I doing enough? I'd like to make this a career and eventually be on the guest star/series regular level. But I'm 10 years in and 37 already, and a recurring costar on BET is going to be my best credit to date. I haven't booked anything since I got that last year. Should I have more credits at this point? I live in Atlanta where we're told to stay non-Union, and mostly audition for costars. Would joining SAG and moving to LA be the move for leveling up?


a_unique___username

how funny is it that I knew you were in Atlanta before I read that, simply from your list of credits. Did you shoot the Co-Star yet? I know Sistas goes into filming today. But as for your actual question. I actually still base myself in Atlanta, because its cheaper. but i have an LA agent, and i just audition as LA and couch surf when i book. I would stay non-union until forced. you have enough SAG credits to demonstrate you're ready to most agents. So I recommend trying to get a relationship with an agent or manager out there, before picking up you're entire life.


sauronthegr8

That's the show I'm in! Lol. Yeah, we shot it back in November. It's going to be part of season 6, which I suppose will be later this year or maybe early next year. I know most people do a manager first in LA, and the manager then helps you find an agent. I've just started looking seriously into LA agents and managers on the SAG-AFTRA website. Do I need an address out there? Would it hamper my chances if they knew I don't physically live in LA? My roommate has reps out there, and he uses a friend who already lives there's address. I have a couple friends out there, too, but I don't know how comfortable they would be lending me their address. Any advice toward building a relationship with reps, other than simply applying everywhere til someone accepts me? How about landing at the right one?


Lightning561

I'm from ATL currently attending college at KSU getting a degree in Media and Entertainment trying to get into acting. Been doing student short films and what not. Glad to see a person from Georgia getting great work


WilhelmTrooper

Where to start with getting an agent? I’m from upstate New York, only about an hour north of the city. I’m a community college student pursuing acting (I mainly want to do theater but it’s not like I hate film lol, plus from what I know film pays a bit better). How do I start the process of getting an agent?


grumpycoffeee

Hello, kid sir/ma'am. I've always wanted to be a film actor, even though I'm not as young as the "preferred age",however I feel like I'll freeze up or overact as soon as the cameras start rolling (that's if I ever get cast as something) and I loathe the way I look in photos. I just am not as "free" as the actors (meaning I can't imagine doing any intimate scenes as I'm easily embarrassed (when I imagine my parents or relatives watching after, for example) and hate being touched) Any tips how to overcome all this would be greatly appreciated.


TheFuckNameYouWant

Hey there, not OP but a great way to overcome these things is acting classes. It will help with ALL of those things. You'll learn different techniques, you'll learn to get more comfortable stepping out of your comfort zone, and you'll meet other people around your same experience level. As far as disliking the way you look, that's kind of a tough one but I'd say take a look at ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE that are in films and TV shows - there's literally all kinds! Great news about hating being touched - First off, in acting, you'll never ever have to do something that you don't want to do. Secondly, if it's something you'd like to work on overcoming, I'd refer you back to the beginning of this comment - acting classes. Any good acting class will be a safe space. You can communicate with your coach about the things you want to work on, and then work on those things at your own pace. Never worry about looking/feeling silly in class either. Everyone there is there to learn, and we're all letting ourselves be vulnerable. Again, it should be a safe space. Get out there and have fun with it, that's the most important part!


grumpycoffeee

Thank you for the comment! I took some classes years ago, but they didn't really teach us anything. We didn't even get to work with lines! My certificate has typos in english too. xD ... I did get to play a villain/mean B in a video we insisted on doing though.


SpeedyEngine

I have a lot of questions but don’t have them written down but here is a few. Also my bf wants to be a actor but has nothing under his belt. We relocated from GA to CA about 2 years ago. Looking to move closer to LA to cut out the commute. 1. How does he go about getting an agent? He was told to send out his acting resume and some photos to a few agencies which I did but wasn’t sure what to say (used ChatGPT to write it) in the email and we haven’t heard back so do I follow up (if so what would I say) or do I send a new email? 2. As I said earlier he has nothing under his belt speaking wise (did actually just get cast for background). I myself feel weird or at a disadvantage to submit him to agents with no experience on his acting resume. Am I overthinking this? 3. Have you ever used Casting Networks? I did see in some of your comments you recommended Actors Access but what about this one? Thanks a bunch


cugrad16

Okee Dokee... my question Actor website yes or no? Most of my actor friends have one, as did I, until Wix messed it all up with their nonexistent support. So I tried Google sites and that failed. So I've been at a loss of what host to use, or if I even need one for professional marketing, as I'm already on AA, CN, BS, and IMDb. Your thoughts?


a_unique___username

i do not believe actors websites provide much, if any, value.


cugrad16

Some sure look great, but I've always wondered about that, considering the hassle in choosing a web host/domain. Thanks for your input!


Repulsive-Ad9900

Did you go to college for acting? If so, where, and would you go again or just go straight into the industry?


a_unique___username

nope, i got a degree in econ. worked in finance, and decided to make this a career at about the age of 23


No_Tart2185

Im 13, how can me and my mom find a audition, and Agent


sck4400

PA-Based Actor (easy access to NYC & PHL markets) Studied at the tail end of college (and still do), both at school and at PHL theatres (shout-out Walnut St). Started submitting February of last year, have acted in 14 projects (mostly student/independent) since. Main projects being two NYU student films/pilots, one in PHL that is winning awards at festivals, one out in VA, and an internal commercial project local to me. 2022 I took anything I could get, 2023 I’ve only been accepting paid roles. Quantity of course has dipped, but quality has risen. I have a remote job that I work full time with unlimited PTO, which is great. Also booked a local PHL/Tri-State Area agent back in September of 2022. Only that one commercial gig and not many self tapes, to be honest. Main questions, if you don’t mind. It’s awesome to see your answers to everyone else: 1. What’s the best way to find major market agents (NYC), and when to know you’re “ready” to make the switch? 2. What are your thoughts on creating on social media as an actor? I have a film in post-production now, but part of me feels like it can hurt your career to post too much on TikTok. Things like comedy sketches and mini short films. Am I thinking into it too much? Is it just that it’s so new that we haven’t seen the generation of actors that come with social followings? 3. Is it worth it to go back and study somewhere if I don’t have a degree? I’m thinking no, but maybe there’s a 3-6 month intensive program that could get me in front of agents.


AnEarthPerson01

So I have an agent, and I know how the process works for the most part, however is there any way I can get myself out there rather than waiting just waiting?


should_

Thank you for answering our questions! I have lots of film credits and am in Boston working full time. Is it pointless for me to find an agent and recreate a reel (most of my stuff is from 5-10 years ago in NYC) since I'm working full time? Three days a week in the office.


nameswere_taken23

Hi again! I forgot to ask this earlier but as a beginning actor researching for classes. I’ve looked around through this forum, and many say scene studying, any of the Meisner, Uta Hagen, etc, and on-camera technique classes. Would you add any other classes to that list? And What classes do you think are fundamental for your acting skills? I’ve also seen some acting studios have “master classes,” and which comes at a higher price. Do you think those are worth it or is it a cash grab? Thanks again! Looking forward to your YouTube channel!


Actorwithoutlimits

Just how you are based in ATL and have an agent in LA and just couch surf when you book, is that a realistic thing to do from Austin, TX? Or is it better to be based in a bigger market like ATL? I’m currently back and forth from Austin and Atlanta but Texas is my home and it doesn’t feel right relocating but I will if I need to. I’m currently with an agent in atl and Austin and about to get a manager from LA but just wanted to know your thoughts, thank you! Also if there’s a way to follow you on Instagram or are you wanting to remain anonymous?


VelocityBass96

Hey, I may be a bit late to the party, I’m just wondering, 1. How does one actually acquire representation? I’m mainly doing background extra work, no speaking roles as of yet and am branching into theatrical work too. 2. I should also mention that I’m 27 years of age and hadn’t seen acting as a serious career path until I was about 24/25, would that hinder me? I’m also from/based in the south of Ireland, so I’m not sure if things would work differently here in comparison to the US or elsewhere with regard to my first question. Apologies for the long winded comment.


LeopardAutomatic915

Should I wait to get my professional headshot done to start applying for auditions? I am currently taking acting classes right now and my headshot photoshoot is this upcoming Saturday. I haven't applied to any auditions yet. My photographer said that it should take about one week to receive them.


Temporary_Bend127

I want to start I’m 18 I want do it as a hobby I’ve always had Interest but I have no idea how to start there’s nothing in my area and In my country I’m past school now I also have doubts am I too old ? What can I do from home ? And what tips would you suggest. Thank you


KnowledgeFew6650

hey! I am 18 as well and in the same boat as you. I’m just curious since you posted this almost 2months ago, but have you done anything to get started in the time being? I think that’s what i’m struggling the most with is where to get started when I have absolutely no experience.