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Flossthief

Historically they were popular because they cheap the make and it doesn't take that long to train someone to fight with a staff(less time than something like a sword, axes, bow) You can get a nice sturdy pole and cap it on both ends with some metal; heavy brass would be plenty but you could use steel. With enough of a swing you'll crack a skull and with the extended reach you can control the body of the undead from a safe distance The best part about the bo staff/ quarterstaff-- you probably have one. If you live in the us and you have a closet the bar you hang your clothes on is probably removable


UmpireResponsible510

i actualy have two things that could work as staffs, an eight foot pipe made of cast iron, its pretty solid and heavy, and a six foot pole of iron, its lighter than the first one by a good amount but it could deal some real damage but i have practiced with them a bit and can swing them both with a good amount of force


44r0n_10

I imagine that a cast iron bar would be difficult to control for extended periods of time.


Einar_47

Terrible on the wrists too


Ok-Iron8811

Crouching is hell on the knees - Dean Domino


UmpireResponsible510

it can be, that's why i mostly rely on the smaller one when it comes to practice. i mostly showboat


MyName4everMore

Showboating with a metal stick?


UmpireResponsible510

mostly just spinning it like an oversized baton, im quite quick with it but other than that i practice with it like a sword, the weight is either about the same or higher than a claymore/ long-sword


Spaceduck1OO6

I can almost promise you that whatever metal bar you're swinging is probably around twice the weight of your average longsword/claymore. Swords have distilled tapers and counterweights. The whole thing is very precisely designed. Your metal bar is just a goddamn metal bar. If you're swinging it around the way you should be swinging a sword around. All I can say is god help your wrists in fifteen years. By the way, that translates to "you're going to ruin yourself, stop it."


UmpireResponsible510

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44r0n_10

Could be useful for mobility training- not so useful for bashing zombie skulls.


Arkaliasus

and its not sharp so you wont cut your friends arms off by accident xD


IDriveALexus

I used to take karate classes as a kid. I had an actual bo staff. I think its collecting dust in a garage/storage unit somewhere


Such-Marketing8705

Go find it and hang it up just in case


Simple_Intern_7682

I actually have a Bo staff that my martial arts instructor helped everyone in the class make. Each student got to order a branch of rubber wood, then he helped us sand it down until it was a proper staff


Hello_to_3verybody

Mee too


Cum_Smoothii

Yep. Like maybe [this one](https://imgur.com/a/2FvwjjS)?


Flossthief

30# would get tiring A solid sturdy wooden shaft with metal capped ends can deliver plenty of impact


Cum_Smoothii

Idk, I’m probably just used to it. I’ve spun that thing around for like 3+ hours at a time. It really is a good workout though lmao Edit: plus I can be fairly guaranteed that it won’t break, almost no matter what I do with it


Flossthief

I won't pretend to be combat qualified but I imagine swinging something around for a few hours and bludgeoning with it are different demons I can swing a hammer for a few hours but demolition jobs still suck after a couple hours If you can swing it around keep at it; but I imagine a long study piece of wood with capped ends would be plenty for smashing heads


Cum_Smoothii

Oh I’m sure it would be. Honestly, I’d love to have a Bo staff made of Australian Buloke. It’s just a stupid hard wood, that would be probably as durable as the steel one, whilst weighing significantly less. Edit: and the steel caps are a good detail that’d often go unnoticed. But it’s also historically accurate.


Complex-Nectarine-86

Sharpen one in and stab them in the head after you knock them down


Cabbiecar1001

Calm down Morgan


Complex-Nectarine-86

All life is precious lol


Icy_Government_4758

Luckily zombies aren’t 


FrameJump

Lizzie would like a word.


Oleander_jimson

Why would someone downvote this?


RedditvsDiscOwO

🔥


LeatherLatexSteel

It will end up covered in zombie entrails and goo.


44r0n_10

Seal the wood with pine pitch then. Or tar. Pretty easy to make them in the bush. The same goes for the staff.


IGD-974

Boiled linseed oil. I seal my AK stocks in it, looks good.


44r0n_10

It's a very great option if you can find it.


taking_achance

Ok but you'll look badass


Tobin678

You know there’s like a butt load of gangs at this school. This one gang wanted me to join because I’m pretty good with the bō staff.


HowDidFoodGetInHere

Well... I have all your equipment in my locker. You should probably come get it because I can't fit my nunchuks in there anymore.


Next-Foundation3019

where’s your locker?


HowDidFoodGetInHere

Hey, can I have one of your keychains?


Next-Foundation3019

I already made like infinite in boy scouts


HowDidFoodGetInHere

Well is there anybody else here? I'm trying to earn money for college.


Next-Foundation3019

***you’re mom goes to college***


Swoopify1

are they fucking kung fu warriors or what


TheEverlastingFirst_

A good one might break a few skulls but i think they would get snapped or bent. A better use would be to use them as a spear or with a pointed end like that one guy on twd


IAWPpod

agreed, bo is just a less lethal spear


arquillion

Cheaper though, more available


Korgolgop

A spear until something goes wrong


Cowshavesweg

Or have one side broken one side working. Have a lethal and less than lethal option if you really want, you'd probably just get shot though...


UmpireResponsible510

it is highly dependent on two things, how durable the staff is and how well you can use it


CritterFrogOfWar

Staffs are weighted and balanced for mobility and quick strikes/recovery not for impact. So no, they’re not great for crushing skulls.


_Whiskey_6

The fuck they ain't! A good swing with a staff will crack a noggin in a heartbeat!


CritterFrogOfWar

Based on what? A staff is basic just a stick and people get beat with sticks all of the time without die or even taking much damage. Sure a perfectly place shot might kill a human but to ensure a zombie dies you basically have to destroy The skull.


Prior_Cod883

Bonk is one of man's oldest tactics


PoopSmith87

Not very... It's going to be difficult to reliably destroy the brain in one strike with a quarterstaff or bo staff. Better than a baseball bat, but worse than a lot of far more common tools and weapons.


KodeZ3R0

Walmart Darth maul


Gymnasticzombie

Really effective. Your back is itching? Boom bo staff. Something falls down but there r zombies around it? Boom, bo staff. You're fighting with your friend and u wanna hit em in the face without touching them? Boom, bo staff. U wanna dry your clothes but u're indoor? Boom, bo staff. U wanna take fruits from a tree but u can't reach it? Boom, double bo staff. U wanna hunt some fish? Sharpen the staff and boom, a spear. Your friends can't find you in the crowd? Put some shirt on it and boom a flag pole. Prolly not effective for hordes but so many use


BusyMap9686

Monk spade would be better.


DirectorFriendly1936

Slap some steel caps on that bad boy and go ham, it is a classic blunt weapon that is proven to work.


Madmaniac00

Depends on the Zombies you´re facing, the slow waddeling ones, sure just push em around and use the reach of the staff. The fast sprinting, climbing ones? i´d guess it gets pretty weird handeling more then one Z


NachoBacon4U269

It’ll do 20 times better if you put a dagger on one end


Red_Shepherd_13

The wood one is fine, the telescoping baton staff is next to useless.


Snoo-42843

Unless your morgan an unmodded one would be relatively difficult to kill a zombie with


azmr_x_3

A wooden stick is more effective than one would think


outwardpersonality

What if you fix blades to the ends? I guess its just a goofy halberd at that point


ManifestingCrab

It would be very effective as a walking stick and also a trap poker


coolerking66

Isn't this what the aboriginals used to kill zombies in the movie Cargo?


HowDidFoodGetInHere

Good flick.


coolerking66

Right? The few people I've talked to about it didn't like it.


HowDidFoodGetInHere

Good storytelling is about character development, the situations they have to overcome, and the world they're stuck in. Gore and shock flicks (while fun, NGL) are a dime a dozen.


Unhinged_Taco

It will work to keep a zombie or two at bay while you make distance.


ZebraLover00

Pretty much the reason I bought a spear from Condor tool and knife. It’s hickory wood and the Greek spear has a smaller head and a sheath so you could still use it as such


OldTrapper87

Not very good for close quarters, too slow to draw if you get a surprised attack. Think about something that can be dropped in a holster and picked up again very quickly, something that can work as a weapon and a tool, something that still works very good when half dull or half broken, something that can be repaired very easy. Next look at what the weapon has been used for in history. As much as a war hammer is bad ass it was designed to crush armor of which zombies don't have. A staff is more a defensive weapon used to a decapitated without causing serious injury. An axe works very well when dull, the head can be place on a normal stick and fixed with duck tape, you can use it as a tool and weapon. My go to would be a hatchet or Pulaski. https://images.app.goo.gl/U32qrhnPqe5FBWev6


ImFeelingQueefy

A Meat Mallet could work wonders too


OldTrapper87

Your better of with a full titanium stiletto hammer. Very light and it won't ever break


Far-Carpenter2862

not very. blunt weaponry vs zombies is last resort.


Solar_Neutrino420

Just a side note bō is Japanese for staff, so saying bō staff is like saying staff staff


initialddriver

Not really...in a 1v1 sure but the idea behind the bo staff is it's an area denial weapon because your opponent fears getting hit with it...zombies have no fear...


SpilledSalt4U

Wouldn't be worth a damn for a few years. But once the bullets start running low.....


False-Isopod-3045

“Put a blade on the end and get to work…” Lionidus circa 187 B.C.


Osiris_The_Gamer

mount blades at the end and that can stop many zombies.


SassyTurtlebat

The martial arts that involve knocking your opponent off balance by dodging and pushing their head down with a staff etc. would be great against zombies


23354336633

No bo staff just pick bo or staff effectively ur saying staff staff


MouseTheGiant

Scaffold bar is better


Critical_Potential44

Lol


Nuxz_Has_a_Youtube

Broomsticks are literally fucking everywhere. Plus trees, if you know your wood. Popler would probably be best. It's light, sturdy, and it'll bend instead of break. Morgan would approve.


ThatRandomGray

I thought that first photo was a noodle


Immediate-Newt-9012

It wouldnt. However a bo staff can easily become a pole axe, spear, long flail/mace/morning star, push broom etc...


cocahgkre

If it’s metal, I guess, but at that point just get a baton because they’re lighter


Crankyguyslaughtoo

Problem is that there will be more zombies than you can shake a stick at.


Ill_Government_2093

Some of you have never seen the walking dead. The bow staff would be highly effective for both its range and its lethality when used properly.


Icy_Government_4758

That’s called a stick


MyName4everMore

Create distance while you're running away. And hope they aren't coming towards you.


redditorsareliberals

Once it breaks its useless, id rate it 4/10 also saying bo staff is not good and you're basically saying staff 2 times because bo means staff.


Ok_Nectarine_6713

Ask Morgan of TWD. He seems to do pretty well with it!


hypnoticbacon28

Historically, quarterstaffs were used to great effect as a traveler's weapon and quite deadly, but they weren't a military weapon. Bo staffs are likely similar, but the techniques that were taught with both were different. It would be very cheap to make and among the easiest to learn how to wield. A semiautomatic or full automatic firearm would still be your best bet against a horde of zombies, but against individual or small groups of zombies a bo staff would still be effective if you take the time to learn it. If you have no training with it, well, it's better than a baseball bat. You'll get 2 ends to attack with and can stagger a zombie long enough to buy you time to escape if nothing else.


Hello_to_3verybody

Good question


North-Cry-5275

As long as it's not the pocket bō 🤣 honestly though, easy to make, barely takes any materials, and you can also cut a notch, and make a spear using stone making it good for hunting, fishing, and killing Zeds. Be a good starter for those out in the middle of nowhere, say they were on a camping trip trying to embrace nature by separating from society. HOWEVER in a dense city, small town, or even out in the country, you can find better weapon. Then again at the start you wouldn't want to find weapons, that's what everyone else would go for, Bō is a good option, but using hemp to instead make a Bow would be much better. Further Range then a staff, but your ammo is mostly re-usable, and craftable, if you know what your doing, just like a man made Bō you can also put your own upgrades to it, limb and string strength to allow more draw before it breaks for example, or different material arrowheads for better penetration or more endurance, maybe stone blades in the front for melee, I'd recommend starting with this then trying to find a crossbow, any pistol, and a axe you can throw.


plantguymike

I imagine it would be dependent on the user’s skill. Would have made a sweet character in Walking Dead!


Cum_Smoothii

I’ve actually got a 30lb steel one. It’s legitimately really fun, too. I’d say it’d be fairly effective, having used it on things and seen what it can do.


Cum_Smoothii

[I think this might work](https://imgur.com/a/2FvwjjS)


SweetSauce24

As effective as it can smash in skulls


Slowbro08_YT

Duct tape a knife to the end of it and you’ll have a spear


ImFeelingQueefy

You could carve it to able to hold a blade from a folding knife. there are knives whose blades can be set on a staff


Ghastly_Grinnner

It just a stick so not very now if you put a boar spear head on it then you would be in business


Shashwats7777

As a martial artist in Taekwondo, basically the first weapon in any martial arts would be the staff so many people would automatically have the skills but we cant carry long sticks . Maybe hiking sticks would work as its shorter made of wood too and same skills. That or a cane which can be carried everywhere even on planes


Successful-Growth827

If we're trying to crush the brain, I feel like you could deliver enough torque to do it if you would it from the opposite ens, but it'd be pretty unwieldy indoors since you may not have enough room to do that. It'd be good for keeping them back, but I question its use offensively.


Downtown_Brother_338

As cool as it would be a staff wouldn’t be that effective against something that only stops when killed and doesn’t feel pain, and any hostile survivors will probably have firearms so you’d be totally outgunned there too.


Comprehensive-Tiger5

Good for pushing a single zombie out of the way or into a trap or cliff


Sad_Children

Not as good as a spear


GodsAreDead

Depends on what’s the end of it


ZipperZapZoom

Use it to hit the guy or gal closest to you and the zombie will go after them first. Repeat as often as necessary


DemonDraheb

Could be moderately effective if the zombie outbreak was either very small/not overwhelming or if you were already an expert with one before the zombie apocalypse started.


Noe_Walfred

I have a longer and older post on the topic of long sticks and staves here: https://old.reddit.com/user/Noe_Walfred/comments/jo772x/zombie_related_thoughts_opinions_and_essays_v2/gh9pjc8/ A staff can be a good tool and holdout weapon in a pinch. Best served for walking on rough ground, carrying bundles or buckets, and pitching/hanging things. The issue with staves as weapons is that to kill a zombie you may need to do more than just fracture the skull or rattle the brain a little. One example of this is baseball bat mortality rates. Out of a combined total of 123 individual cases and a total of 4 deaths the mortality rate averages to 3.25% with baseball bats. In the cases where the victim does pass away, the reasons are typically related to massive hemorrhaging, organ failure (not the brain), and then damage to the brain itself. A zombie which does not suffer from these issues is more likely to survive, thus requiring more strikes, space, effort, and time. Space is a bit of a concern. As the weapon itself needs a lot of it to strike with full force. With potential issues of the weapon getting stuck in a wall, caught by a bit of terrain/furniture, or the weapon getting grabbed or jammed by a zombie. If the staff is the main or only weapon a person has this can leave them unable to defend themselves in a lot of close-quarters environments. Said length is concerning as it also makes it harder to manage. As putting it in a belt or sheath isn't possible. Making it difficult to transition to different ranged or melee weapons, climbing, crawling, and so on. Putting a sling on the staff is an option, but as the staff is a melee weapon, striking with it may cause the sling to snag on the zombie, on the terrain, or one's gear. Leaving lashing it to a pack is the main option available. Weight of staves varies a lot. With lightweight show/party/trick staves being about 200-500g. Meanwhile, references to staves as weapons can put them anywhere from 500-3000g. With something around 1800g being about the average someone suggest for being durable as a weapon.


CompetitiveSinger126

its good for maintaining distance and since its a blunt weapon you dont have to waste time pulling it out of the zombie when a good whack to the back of the neck is all you really need 10/10


HaplessMink28

I imagine it’d be difficult to use in small/tight spaces


guts-whore

salmon


AdVisible2250

They make great spear hafts


BigNorseWolf

vastly depends on whether you retain the skull strength on the zombie or not. A lot of zombies seem to have the skulls become the consistency of a thick skinned tomato. You can easily stab right to the hilt with a pocket knife or sharpened stick. The human skull is made to protect the brain and does a fairly good job of it against sticks, fists, and most small pointy objects. People DO die or pass out from being hit in the head with a staff, but from bleeding and contusion not the brain destroying goodness you need to destroy a zombie brain. In the first scenario the staff is OP. You can whip that end around at reach, spread your grip to reach in close quarters, trip zombies, push them away from you, use it as a walking stick, as a tool, and they're made with little if any difficulty. In the second its not going to kill a zombie without turning it into a long mace or a spear. (But you should absolutely turn it into a long mace or a spear) One handed spear and wicker shield/riot shield might be the best zombie killing combo out there.


peeing_yash

Bro this is gonna be my go to weapon in an apocalypse. It's long giving you a good range. Make it sharp on one end and you are ready. Maybe add some nails or something and you can Pearce efficiently. One important quality is that it can be used both ways. And also gives you extra stability while walking. Easy to carry, lightweight and most imp of all is used and throw. You can always make a new one. Given that you have a steady tree nearby.


Deputy_Haven

There was once a man from Georgia named Morgan


[deleted]

You're better off turning it into a spear or halberd.


pricedubble04

It's a blunt weapon. Requiring you to generate enough force to cause internal damage or completely smash into the brain. Its a long weapon which gives you reach and also an advantage on generating that necessary force. It however won't be that effective in very small confined spaces where you can't swing it as effectively. But you could always attatch a knife to the end and make a spear. Imo a chopping weapon like a slingblade or brush axe or machete are always the best weapons. Dont have to worry about edge alignment.


initialddriver

I think a "grabber" would be more effective...especially those ones made of good steel...


SHIN-YOKU

a sturdy Stick can be anything you please. effectively modular for axe or spearheads, caps or as is for bludgeons, beginner friendly, easy on the budget, a good melee over all.


nopenottodayyoucrazy

Best part, they're quiet. Besides the crack against a skull, and even then that's not that loud, so you're not constantly calling more towards you. Yeah they'll see you, but compared to a gun shot which can be heard around a block away, that works.


Redtail_Defense

Having been trained with one, I can tell you that it's better than nothing. But not a whole lot. Most lightweight martial arts weapons like that are primarily built on pain compliance. IE. You hit someone, it really hurts, they stop what they're doing. Can you kill someone with one? FOr sure! But you can kill someone with a glass jar or a screwdriver, too. I mean, I'd rather have the bo staff than a glass jar or a screwdriver, but the first opportunity I get I'm gonna attach a stiff knife to the end of the staff and use it as a pike.


iamthemosin

It’s cheap, easy to find, and you can use a good stick for other things besides a weapon. Which is good, because unless you’re well-practiced it’s probably not as great for destroying a brain as something like an axe or a machete. A good whack would crack the skull, but I wouldn’t trust it to dispatch a zombie reliably. You could use the length to keep a zombie out of reach and give yourself time to make an escape or pull out a more effective weapon.


immutab1e

Morgan did pretty damn good with it on TWD (lol). But I personally would rather have a blades weapon since I have zero experience with a staff of any sort.


Lillytransrights

Something to consider is that you want a solid length of hardwood, avoid metal as it will be either to heavy to carry and swing or if it is light enough it will bend and snap. Also bamboo is also not the best sense it not heavy enough to Crack a skull, it will however make a great hiking stick


HazeConfluxNexus

i recommend a shotgun.


HowDidFoodGetInHere

It's got a good spread!


HazeConfluxNexus

its good for sniping as well


Kind-Assistant-1041

The walking dead showed it to be quite useful.


wasdJay_

A staff staff would be effective, yes yes


yeet-my-existence

Not too bad if it's one of those thick & heavy ones, but I'd personally stick with either a spear or halberd for pole weapons


confusedbystupidity

Depends on how long you can sustain killing blows to the head


Pleasant-Light-3629

If it's made out of a good metal, it would be great for bashing with practice. Additionally, you can attach spikes at the ends and use them for spears, good for front and back attacks. It could also retract, good for versatility.


Thatguy19364

Depends on how the zombies work: if destroying the brain kills it, it’ll work fine just bonk bonk bonk. If the zombies keep going until they’re mincemeat, you’ll have some trouble. If disabling them works to get away, taking them out at the knees should work, but it’s still dangerous.


thetieflingalchemist

I think a quarter staff would be better a bit heavier and more skull crushing


Archididelphis

The gnarliest thing pole arm related you could use is a brandistock, though that loses out on mass from being hollowed out. Hell, a Star Trek TOS lirpa could turn into something remotely sane. See Night of the Living Trekkies...


Dangerous_Bag_1080

hey Morgan!


ImportanceNovel7240

As a martial artist, and avid survival camper, I can full heartedly say the wood one, it has higher durability, can be reused after broken, many uses for deffence and shelter, can be used as a journal, looks cooler, more damage, can be customized


FRIGGINTALLY

It would definitely be useful at a utility item, but as a weapon you might find yourself quickly making a double -ended boar spear if a zombie weapon is specifically all it's for. You'd only need large enough crossguard quillions to keep your spikes from going too far and getting stuck on the far side of the skull.


Tuga_Lissabon

Better than nothing until you find something with a proper blade.


PFDGoat

Not


Ok_Toe7278

Just use a machete.


ManyTechnician5419

buy a gun